Russia Investigation Heating Up

[Wrathbringer]

The judge just handed down a 30 day prison sentence for Van der Zwaan.

OMGOMGOMG THIS IS REALLY IT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!111

[Androidpk]

The only one posting that is you, parkbandit, and wrathbringer, over and over and over.

and like clockwork..


OMGOMGOMG THIS IS REALLY IT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!111

[Methais]

Translation: You couldn't muster a substantive response, and have conceded that Trump's administration actively colluded with Russia.

Let us know when charges are filed. No charges, no crime. Wasn't that what was being said on here during the Hillary investigation?

[Parkbandit]

Surely this will be the thing that sinks Trump, says increasingly nervous man for the 47th time since July 2015

Did you just assume gender?

Reported.

(still so very true though!)

THIS IS IT FOR REAL THIS TIME!

[Parkbandit]

Let us know when charges are filed. No charges, no crime. Wasn't that what was being said on here during the Hillary investigation?

Don't bring up Hillary again... remember when Androidpk was certain she would be indicted every day for a year?

His "sources" are as suspect as his employment history.

[Androidpk]

Don't bring up Hillary again... remember when Androidpk was certain she would be indicted every day for a year?

His "sources" are as suspect as his employment history.

The only thing suspect here is your mental status.

[Parkbandit]

The only thing suspect here is your mental status.

OMG U R STALKING ME!

[Methais]

Your words. If from these one isn't supposed to glean that hate is what drives your thoughts, what conclusion is a person supposed to reach?

You two should just say “anger” and call it a day.

[Methais]

The only one posting that is you, parkbandit, and wrathbringer, over and over and over.

If you weren’t so ultra retarded you would have realized months ago that it’s rooted in making fun of time4fun’s plethora of “This is it there’s no way Trump will survive this!” posts throughout the entire Russia thing.

The only real difference is the caps.

[Methais]

There it is. Whenever you hold one of them to account, they weasel out. "You take this too seriously", "You don't understand a joke", blah blah blah. It's cliché at this point.

That’s because you and idiots like you literally don’t understand jokes or when you’re being trolled.

Look at Ashliana for example. Wrathbringer makes zero attempt to not look like he’s trolling, but the bait keeps getting taken over and over and given serious responses like:


It's cathartic watching you Trump apologists completely shut down and conceding defeat in the face of evidence you can't refute.

That's what's behind your snowflake ideology: feelings. Your terror of, and inability to deal with, a changing world. It's okay, though: Your kids will view you as small-minded and ignorant as everybody already views their blatantly racist grand/great-grandparents, and you'll be in a grave, a forgotten relic nobody talks about.


When chances are WB didn’t even read the post he responded to in the first place.

You’re not really any different. But that’s why we like having you idiots around, especially once Backlash stopped posting regularly from his daily stupor.

On another note, I wasn’t aware that anybody at all took an unofficial forum for a 30 year old text game seriously where like 3 people circle jerk Trump hatred and false hope all day and get trolled and laughed at by the handful of other active posters.

Why would anyone do such a thing outside of the boob thread in its glory days?

[Wrathbringer]

That’s because you and idiots like you literally don’t understand jokes or when you’re being trolled.

Look at Ashliana for example. Wrathbringer makes zero attempt to not look like he’s trolling, but the bait keeps getting taken over and over and given serious responses like:




When chances are WB didn’t even read the post he responded to in the first place.

This is correct.

[Ashliana]

That’s because you and idiots like you literally don’t understand jokes or when you’re being trolled.

Look at Ashliana for example. Wrathbringer makes zero attempt to not look like he’s trolling, but the bait keeps getting taken over and over and given serious responses like

It doesn't matter if Wrathbringer "tries," or not. The point remains the same: Wrathbringer can't rationally defend his position. Parkbandit can't defend his position. You can't defend your position. Every time you try, you end up giving up and resorting to "LAWL, U SO STOOPID, LIEBRUHL." Except doubling down on your stupidity doesn't change reality. It doesn't change the fact that people you voted into power are going to federal prison.



On another note, I wasn’t aware that anybody at all took an unofficial forum for a 30 year old text game seriously where like 3 people circle jerk Trump hatred and false hope all day and get trolled and laughed at by the handful of other active posters.

Why would anyone do such a thing outside of the boob thread in its glory days?

Reality check: This forum is almost nothing but you, Wrathbringer, Parkbandit and one or two other reactionary idiots circlejerking, occasionally broken up by either the left-wingers who enjoy poking holes in your retarded positions, or the occasional average poster who wanders in here, sees how you treat people, posts once and runs off.

[Neveragain]

The judge just handed down a 30 day prison sentence (and $20,000 fine) for Van der Zwaan.

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[Fortybox]

That’s because you and idiots like you literally don’t understand jokes or when you’re being trolled.

Look at Ashliana for example. Wrathbringer makes zero attempt to not look like he’s trolling, but the bait keeps getting taken over and over and given serious responses like:




When chances are WB didn’t even read the post he responded to in the first place.

You’re not really any different. But that’s why we like having you idiots around, especially once Backlash stopped posting regularly from his daily stupor.

On another note, I wasn’t aware that anybody at all took an unofficial forum for a 30 year old text game seriously where like 3 people circle jerk Trump hatred and false hope all day and get trolled and laughed at by the handful of other active posters.

Why would anyone do such a thing outside of the boob thread in its glory days?

I actually want these fools posting here. The entertainment was lacking and I need a good chuckle.

[Wrathbringer]

It doesn't matter if Wrathbringer "tries," or not. The point remains the same: Wrathbringer can't rationally defend his position. Parkbandit can't defend his position. You can't defend your position. Every time you try, you end up giving up and resorting to "LAWL, U SO STOOPID, LIEBRUHL." Except doubling down on your stupidity doesn't change reality. It doesn't change the fact that people you voted into power are going to federal prison.




Reality check: This forum is almost nothing but you, Wrathbringer, Parkbandit and one or two other reactionary idiots circlejerking, occasionally broken up by either the left-wingers who enjoy poking holes in your retarded positions, or the occasional average poster who wanders in here, sees how you treat people, posts once and runs off.

you're retarded.

[RichardCranium]

Reality check: This forum is almost nothing but you, Wrathbringer, Parkbandit and one or two other reactionary idiots circlejerking, occasionally broken up by either the left-wingers who enjoy poking holes in your retarded positions, or the occasional average poster who wanders in here, sees how you treat people, posts once and runs off.

Reality check: It isn't just one side that does this.

[time4fun]

Let us know when charges are filed. No charges, no crime. Wasn't that what was being said on here during the Hillary investigation?

No one argued if there were no charges, there was no crime.

The argument was you can't assume someone is definitely going to prison and definitely violated the law until the investigation is over. The same standard is true here as well.

But nothing about the argument says "We should ignore all evidence, even when it's staring us straight in the face, and not discuss it." But if you want to pretend it's interpreted that way- I suggest you lead by example and exit this thread.

[time4fun]

Remember all the times in this thread you were like OMG THIS IS REALLY IT THIS TIME TRUMP WON'T SURVIVE THE WEEK!!!!!! ?

Everyone else does.

Yeah I've been gone for 6 months. But keep making things up.

Remember when you said there wouldn't be a democratic backlash in the 2018 elections?

Congratulations on having demonstrated how little you understand about American politics.

[Parkbandit]

It doesn't matter if Wrathbringer "tries," or not. The point remains the same: Wrathbringer can't rationally defend his position. Parkbandit can't defend his position. You can't defend your position. Every time you try, you end up giving up and resorting to "LAWL, U SO STOOPID, LIEBRUHL." Except doubling down on your stupidity doesn't change reality. It doesn't change the fact that people you voted into power are going to federal prison.

Reality check: This forum is almost nothing but you, Wrathbringer, Parkbandit and one or two other reactionary idiots circlejerking, occasionally broken up by either the left-wingers who enjoy poking holes in your retarded positions, or the occasional average poster who wanders in here, sees how you treat people, posts once and runs off.

Occasionally? Ever since Trump became President, it's been a non-stop liberal retard parade. I've never, ever seen so many unhinged liberals cry so hard in all my life. So scared, so frightened, so angry!

It's been hilarious watching idiots like you come in, shit on the place with your special brand of stupidity, then leave all upset.. only to come back again and again and again.

I must say, you've haven't been this entertaining since you were caught using an alt to post in agreement with yourself.

Thank you for entertaining us, Clown.

[Parkbandit]

No one argued if there were no charges, there was no crime.

The argument was you can't assume someone is definitely going to prison and definitely violated the law until the investigation is over. The same standard is true here as well.

But nothing about the argument says "We should ignore all evidence, even when it's staring us straight in the face, and not discuss it." But if you want to pretend it's interpreted that way- I suggest you lead by example and exit this thread.

You should re-visit the special brand of stupid you posted when Hillary was going through her emails.

[Parkbandit]

Congratulations on having demonstrated how little you understand about American politics.

Seriously? YOU of all people?

stop. Now it's not entertaining.. it's morphing into almost pity for how dumb you are.

[Wrathbringer]

Yeah I've been gone for 6 months. But keep making things up.

Remember when you said there wouldn't be a democratic backlash in the 2018 elections?

Congratulations on having demonstrated how little you understand about American politics.

8956

[Fortybox]

Yeah I've been gone for 6 months. But keep making things up.

Remember when you said there wouldn't be a democratic backlash in the 2018 elections?

Congratulations on having demonstrated how little you understand about American politics.

Why would you come back if this forum was so full of meanie heads? Glad you’re back, the forum needs some entertainment.

[Fortybox]

I’m sorry to break this to you but Mueller has squat on Trump:

Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target...
Mueller described Trump as a subject of his investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Prosecutors view someone as a subject when that person has engaged in conduct that is under investigation but there is not sufficient evidence to bring a charge.

Source: Trump’s nemesis, the Washington Post no less.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.eca36e563916

I’m sure something will “come up” when it gets closer to election time. You can see what they are doing from a mile away.

[cwolff]

I’m sorry to break this to you but Mueller has squat on Trump:

Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target...
Mueller described Trump as a subject of his investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Prosecutors view someone as a subject when that person has engaged in conduct that is under investigation but there is not sufficient evidence to bring a charge.

Source: Trump’s nemesis, the Washington Post no less.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.eca36e563916

Trump might not get nailed for anything. It's hard as hell to bring down a president. It is too early to be so confident that Mueller has nothing on trump. It feels weird to even have to point that out. He's under investigation right now. When the investigation's over we'll know what Mueller has or doesn't have.

[Parkbandit]

Trump might not get nailed for anything. It's hard as hell to bring down a president. It is too early to be so confident that Mueller has nothing on trump. It feels weird to even have to point that out. He's under investigation right now. When the investigation's over we'll know what Mueller has or doesn't have.

So now, it's too hard to convict President Trump for all the Russian collusion he obviously did... because he was elected President?



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[time4fun]

I’m sorry to break this to you but Mueller has squat on Trump:

Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target...
Mueller described Trump as a subject of his investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Prosecutors view someone as a subject when that person has engaged in conduct that is under investigation but there is not sufficient evidence to bring a charge.

Source: Trump’s nemesis, the Washington Post no less.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html?utm_term=.eca36e563916

I hate to burst your bubble, but you're grossly misinterpreting this news.

1) Trump is currently (well as of a month ago) the subject of a criminal investigation- which means this isn't a charade, and it definitely does not mean Mueller has squat on Trump. If Mueller had nothing on him, he would absolutely, 100% not be a subject of a criminal probe. You don't become a subject of a probe until there is evidence of potential wrongdoing, and you can't actually stay a subject without additional evidence from the probe itself that indicates you should, in fact, continue to be a subject. And I want to emphasize here- this is particularly true if you are investigating a sitting US President.

So any narrative here that Trump is exonerated, or that there is no evidence against him is abjectly false and literally contradicts what we just learned.

Having said that, there are two very likely scenarios that Trump currently finds himself in. One scenario that is potentially better for him, and one he desperately doesn't want to be in.

The one he wants:

Robert Mueller is a DoJ employee. The DoJ's current guidelines say that a sitting President can't be criminally indicted. A target of the probe is someone they have enough evidence to indict. Even if Mueller is sitting on enough evidence for a criminal indictment, it's actually very likely that Trump still would not be considered a target of the probe because of the aforementioned DoJ policy. That doesn't mean Trump is in the clear, however. Because Mueller would still present that evidence in his final report, and Rosenstein would almost certainly take it to Congress (and could decide to release the information publicly).

It's also possible that while there is enough evidence to indict, it's not enough evidence to convince Congress to act. So there's actually a lot to cushion Trump in this.

The one he desperately does not want:

He's not a target because they haven't interviewed him yet. They likely don't consider themselves to have enough evidence to indict if there's been no interview. It's actually inconceivable that they would consider charges in a case like this without that interview, regardless of what their standard practice is. This involved obstruction- you can't indict until you've established corrupt intent. That would require an interview. In that case (the article actually goes into this as well), Trump is a subject until he walks into the interview, and then- once they have their interview as evidence- he walks out as a target.

There is actually some hinting at this in the article:


Mueller reiterated the need to interview Trump — both to understand whether he had any corrupt intent to thwart the Russia investigation and to complete this [obstruction] portion of his probe, the people said.

There is also the possibility that ultimately there won't be enough evidence to indict, but literally nothing about this article suggests that is the most likely outcome.

And, again, your interpretation that Mueller has nothing on Trump is 100% contradicted by this new information. What you just learned is that Mueller very much has evidence of at least potential criminal wrongdoing, and they are continuing to gather more evidence to build the case. If they weren't, he would not be a subject of the investigation right now- even if he had been at one point.

[Androidpk]

Trump is a subject until he walks into the interview, and then- once they have their interview as evidence- he walks out as a target.

There is actually some hinting at this in the article

.

[Parkbandit]

I hate to burst your bubble, but you're grossly misinterpreting this news.

1) Trump is currently (well as of a month ago) the subject of a criminal investigation- which means this isn't a charade, and it definitely does not mean Mueller has squat on Trump. If Mueller had nothing on him, he would absolutely, 100% not be a subject of a criminal probe. You don't become a subject of a probe until there is evidence of potential wrongdoing, and you can't actually stay a subject without additional evidence from the probe itself that indicates you should, in fact, continue to be a subject. And I want to emphasize here- this is particularly true if you are investigating a sitting US President.

So any narrative here that Trump is exonerated, or that there is no evidence against him is abjectly false and literally contradicts what we just learned.

Having said that, there are two very likely scenarios that Trump currently finds himself in. One scenario that is potentially better for him, and one he desperately doesn't want to be in.

The one he wants:

Robert Mueller is a DoJ employee. The DoJ's current guidelines say that a sitting President can't be criminally indicted. A target of the probe is someone they have enough evidence to indict. Even if Mueller is sitting on enough evidence for a criminal indictment, it's actually very likely that Trump still would not be considered a target of the probe because of the aforementioned DoJ policy. That doesn't mean Trump is in the clear, however. Because Mueller would still present that evidence in his final report, and Rosenstein would almost certainly take it to Congress (and could decide to release the information publicly).

It's also possible that while there is enough evidence to indict, it's not enough evidence to convince Congress to act. So there's actually a lot to cushion Trump in this.

The one he desperately does not want:

He's not a target because they haven't interviewed him yet. They likely don't consider themselves to have enough evidence to indict if there's been no interview. It's actually inconceivable that they would consider charges in a case like this without that interview, regardless of what their standard practice is. This involved obstruction- you can't indict until you've established corrupt intent. That would require an interview. In that case (the article actually goes into this as well), Trump is a subject until he walks into the interview, and then- once they have their interview as evidence- he walks out as a target.

There is actually some hinting at this in the article:



There is also the possibility that ultimately there won't be enough evidence to indict, but literally nothing about this article suggests that is the most likely outcome.

And, again, your interpretation that Mueller has nothing on Trump is 100% contradicted by this new information. What you just learned is that Mueller very much has evidence of at least potential criminal wrongdoing, and they are continuing to gather more evidence to build the case. If they weren't, he would not be a subject of the investigation right now- even if he had been at one point.

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[time4fun]

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Oh PB. Your confidence is inspiring.

You were wrong about Clinton

You were wrong about Russia not having meddled in our elections

You were wrong about Trump's Russia connections not being a big deal

You were wrong about Comey's firing being totally fine and not warranting a special prosecutor

You were wrong about Trump not being under investigation

You were wrong about Mueller having no evidence on Trump

But I will give you this- if you keep guessing A, eventually the answer will be A. So keep it up, and maybe one day you'll be right about something.

Anything.

[Neveragain]

Oh PB. Your confidence is inspiring.

You were wrong about Clinton

You were wrong about Russia not having meddled in our elections

You were wrong about Trump's Russia connections not being a big deal

You were wrong about Comey's firing being totally fine and not warranting a special prosecutor

You were wrong about Trump not being under investigation

You were wrong about Mueller having no evidence on Trump

But I will give you this- if you keep guessing A, eventually the answer will be A. So keep it up, and maybe one day you'll be right about something.

Anything.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/72/0c/06/720c063219387c130a86f057668dee57.jpg

[Ashliana]

Occasionally? Ever since Trump became President, it's been a non-stop liberal retard parade. I've never, ever seen so many unhinged liberals cry so hard in all my life. So scared, so frightened, so angry!


Reality: You voted a circus into power, and people have been discussing their antics. The only retard parade here have been you and the other reactionaries twisting yourselves into pretzels rationalizing your decision, claiming that every negative story is "FAKE NEWS!" (because you were gullible enough to buy into Trump's explanations) before finding out 3 days -- or sometimes 10 minutes -- later, that you once again got played, and embarrassed yourself with how servile -- and willing to put party before nation -- you've become.


It's been hilarious watching idiots like you come in, shit on the place with your special brand of stupidity, then leave all upset.. only to come back again and again and again.

I must say, you've haven't been this entertaining since you were caught using an alt to post in agreement with yourself.

Thank you for entertaining us, Clown.

Okay, Mr. Triple Poster. Tell me more about how upset everyone else is. Especially when you can't engage on the issues, and inevitably slink away to your hole every time you get called out for bullshitting.


I’m sorry to break this to you but Mueller has squat on Trump:

Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target...
Mueller described Trump as a subject of his investigation into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Prosecutors view someone as a subject when that person has engaged in conduct that is under investigation but there is not sufficient evidence to bring a charge.

Source: Trump’s nemesis, the Washington Post no less.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.eca36e563916

:rofl: Yes, that is surely what that means. Trump should feel free to have that sit-down interview any time now.

[Wrathbringer]

Reality: You voted a circus into power, and people have been discussing their antics. The only retard parade here have been you and the other reactionaries twisting yourselves into pretzels rationalizing your decision, claiming that every negative story is "FAKE NEWS!" (because you were gullible enough to buy into Trump's explanations) before finding out 3 days -- or sometimes 10 minutes -- later, that you once again got played, and embarrassed yourself with how servile -- and willing to put party before nation -- you've become.



Okay, Mr. Triple Poster. Tell me more about how upset everyone else is. Especially when you can't engage on the issues, and inevitably slink away to your hole every time you get called out for bullshitting.



:rofl: Yes, that is surely what that means. Trump should feel free to have that sit-down interview any time now.

You're retarded.

[Ashliana]

You're retarded.

Kudos, as always, with finding yourself unable to substantively reply. Not to mention:

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Parkbandit]

Oh PB. Your confidence is inspiring.

Your stupidity isn't.


You were wrong about Clinton

That she would lose the election? No I wasn't, you were. I was one of the very few here that actually predicted a Trump victory.


You were wrong about Russia not having meddled in our elections

I stated numerous times: Russia didn't change the election outcome and there is no evidence that Trump colluded with Russia.

So far, I'm correct.


You were wrong about Trump's Russia connections not being a big deal

And still correct.


You were wrong about Comey's firing being totally fine and not warranting a special prosecutor

Still correct. Turned out, Comey was a piece of shit and should have been fired years ago.


You were wrong about Trump not being under investigation

Wut? Context? Maybe a quote?


You were wrong about Mueller having no evidence on Trump

For collusion. Still so very right.


But I will give you this- if you keep guessing A, eventually the answer will be A. So keep it up, and maybe one day you'll be right about something.

Anything.

Like I stated... you, of all people, should never, ever do any political predictions.

[Parkbandit]

Reality: You voted a circus into power, and people have been discussing their antics. The only retard parade here have been you and the other reactionaries twisting yourselves into pretzels rationalizing your decision, claiming that every negative story is "FAKE NEWS!" (because you were gullible enough to buy into Trump's explanations) before finding out 3 days -- or sometimes 10 minutes -- later, that you once again got played, and embarrassed yourself with how servile -- and willing to put party before nation -- you've become.

I voted in someone that would make little snowflakes like you have a meltdown.

And that meltdown has been going strong ever since. BEST vote I have ever cast.


Okay, Mr. Triple Poster. Tell me more about how upset everyone else is.

Wait.. so it used to be 12 posts in 30 minutes was a sure sign of being "upset". Now it's 3 posts in a row is a sign?

You two fools need to write these rules down so you don't confuse each other.


Especially when you can't engage on the issues, and inevitably slink away to your hole every time you get called out for bullshitting.

LOL. I can't engage in the issues with you.. it's like arguing with a retard.. no one wants to be that guy.

I suppose I could do some real bullshit, create a number of alt accounts and use them to "agree" with me... but that would take someone who has some serious mental problems and low esteem issues.

[Parkbandit]

And I'm keeping all my responses to only TWO posts until these rules come out. I don't want to come across as "upset" when clearly it's not.

THIS POST DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE 3 POSTS IN A ROW.

[Neveragain]

I voted in someone that would make little snowflakes like you have a meltdown.

And that meltdown has been going strong ever since. BEST vote I have ever cast.

This made me stop to ponder, has there ever been a president the people elected exclusively to troll the opposition?

It kind of gives testament to how poorly the left governed during the Obama years.

[audioserf]

I never get why people give a shit how many posts someone does in a row. We won't run out of posts. It's fine.

[audioserf]

Make the posts. It's why we're here. See? I did two, nothing bad happened.

[Parkbandit]

Make the posts. It's why we're here. See? I did two, nothing bad happened.

If 3 = upset.. 2 means your sort of upset?

Tell us what's on your mind.. what is getting you sort of sad?

[Methais]

Reality check: This forum is almost nothing but you, Wrathbringer, Parkbandit and one or two other reactionary idiots circlejerking, occasionally broken up by either the left-wingers who enjoy poking holes in your retarded positions, or the occasional average poster who wanders in here, sees how you treat people, posts once and runs off.

"My side isn't wrong, your side is wrong!"

Who are these people that post once and are scared away though? Please defend your position on this.

[Neveragain]

Reality: Okay, Mr. Triple Poster. Tell me more about how upset everyone else is. Especially when you can't engage on the issues, and inevitably slink away to your hole every time you get called out for bullshitting.

From what I recall, the only slinking that has taken place was the retard crew slinking their way over to the safe space forums...that failed like the mandate.

[Methais]

No one argued if there were no charges, there was no crime.

The argument was you can't assume someone is definitely going to prison and definitely violated the law until the investigation is over. The same standard is true here as well.

But nothing about the argument says "We should ignore all evidence, even when it's staring us straight in the face, and not discuss it." But if you want to pretend it's interpreted that way- I suggest you lead by example and exit this thread.

What happened to you exiting the forums because of all the meanie heads? Tell us why you came back.

[Ashliana]

I voted in someone that would make little snowflakes like you have a meltdown.

And that meltdown has been going strong ever since. BEST vote I have ever cast.

You got conned by a reality TV star. It's true other people are upset at the consequences of your stupidity, but that doesn't change your underlying stupidity. And beeteedubs, you've been having a meltdown since, shitting out poorly conceived apologetics, hysterically calling news "fake" -- only to have it confirmed days, hours or minutes later -- and then falling for the same trick repeatedly. Contorting yourself into a pretzel in order to rationalize supporting someone robbing you blind is you having a meltdown in slow motion.



Wait.. so it used to be 12 posts in 30 minutes was a sure sign of being "upset". Now it's 3 posts in a row is a sign?

You two fools need to write these rules down so you don't confuse each other.

The more posts, the more upset you obviously are. That doesn't seem particularly difficult to understand, but you often have issues with simple matters.


LOL. I can't engage in the issues with you.. it's like arguing with a retard.. no one wants to be that guy.

I suppose I could do some real bullshit, create a number of alt accounts and use them to "agree" with me... but that would take someone who has some serious mental problems and low esteem issues.

Whatever you say, PB. You were confronted with a long list of developments that demonstrate the Trump administration's collusion with Russia. You found yourself totally incapable of responding to it and fled, per the usual. Not just you walking in and out of a conversation, but fleeing from a response to a question that you stupidly asked. You can't engage in the issues, period, as you've demonstrated over more than a decade. You're a deluded imbecile, and it's fun putting you in your place.

[Wrathbringer]

You got conned by a reality TV star. It's true other people are upset at the consequences of your stupidity, but that doesn't change your underlying stupidity. And beeteedubs, you've been having a meltdown since, shitting out poorly conceived apologetics, hysterically calling news "fake" -- only to have it confirmed days, hours or minutes later -- and then falling for the same trick repeatedly. Contorting yourself into a pretzel in order to rationalize supporting someone robbing you blind is you having a meltdown in slow motion.



The more posts, the more upset you obviously are. That doesn't seem particularly difficult to understand, but you often have issues with simple matters.



Whatever you say, PB. You were confronted with a long list of developments that demonstrate the Trump administration's collusion with Russia. You found yourself totally incapable of responding to it and fled, per the usual. Not just you walking in and out of a conversation, but fleeing from a response to a question that you stupidly asked. You can't engage in the issues, period, as you've demonstrated over more than a decade. You're a deluded imbecile, and it's fun putting you in your place.

You're retarded. Also:

8958

[Methais]

I never get why people give a shit how many posts someone does in a row. We won't run out of posts. It's fine.

It's like playing the race card in a political argument. It just means they have nothing else. Watch now as I post multiple times in a row.

[Methais]

You got conned by a reality TV star. It's true other people are upset at the consequences of your stupidity, but that doesn't change your underlying stupidity. And beeteedubs, you've been having a meltdown since, shitting out poorly conceived apologetics, hysterically calling news "fake" -- only to have it confirmed days, hours or minutes later -- and then falling for the same trick repeatedly. Contorting yourself into a pretzel in order to rationalize supporting someone robbing you blind is you having a meltdown in slow motion.

Please quote just one post of PB being hysterical.


The more posts, the more upset you obviously are. That doesn't seem particularly difficult to understand, but you often have issues with simple matters.

I see you've been attending time4fun's logic classes.

[Methais]

Wait, so these knuckleheads ran away to a forum designed to “not hurt their feelings” then that forum died and they’re all now crawling back to this forum?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/824485c442ab55401d32d61d8e385c32/tenor.gif

Yes that's exactly what happened.

http://forums.elanthia.online

[Methais]

You're retarded. Also:

8958

https://i.imgflip.com/8718b.jpg?a422952

https://i.imgur.com/g9XYP.jpg

[Parkbandit]

You got conned by a reality TV star. It's true other people are upset at the consequences of your stupidity, but that doesn't change your underlying stupidity. And beeteedubs, you've been having a meltdown since, shitting out poorly conceived apologetics, hysterically calling news "fake" -- only to have it confirmed days, hours or minutes later -- and then falling for the same trick repeatedly. Contorting yourself into a pretzel in order to rationalize supporting someone robbing you blind is you having a meltdown in slow motion.

How exactly was I conned?

First thing he did was nominate and get confirmed a very young and Conservative judge? If that is the only thing he does during his first term.. it's a win for me and a loss for you.

You and your ilk having daily Trump Meltdowns are just the cherry on top of a delicious sundae.

Thank you for coming back. I knew you would.. just like I knew you would after you left all those other times. You can't stay away, no matter how hard you try. It's part of your low self esteem issues.


The more posts, the more upset you obviously are. That doesn't seem particularly difficult to understand, but you often have issues with simple matters.

Is that how this works? Good to know.

Let me know the exact cutoff. 3 is upset? 2 is ok? 1 is perfectly sane? Is that the benchmark everyone uses on an open forum?

Are you using the same PhD in Psychology that time4fun uses?


Whatever you say, PB. You were confronted with a long list of developments that demonstrate the Trump administration's collusion with Russia. You found yourself totally incapable of responding to it and fled, per the usual. Not just you walking in and out of a conversation, but fleeing from a response to a question that you stupidly asked. You can't engage in the issues, period, as you've demonstrated over more than a decade. You're a deluded imbecile, and it's fun putting you in your place.

How can I flee... AND post 3 posts in a row, therefore so upset?

The only one between the 2 of us that has fled from these forums is you. I've never left.. you've left multiple times now whenever you are outted for stupidity.

Also, you have never, ever "put me in my place". Ever.

Add delusions of grandeur to your many, many mental issues.

[Neveragain]

Wait, so these knuckleheads ran away to a forum designed to “not hurt their feelings” then that forum died and they’re all now crawling back to this forum?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/824485c442ab55401d32d61d8e385c32/tenor.gif

Not only this, they have dragged Wyrom and other GM's right into the mix.

There's also sufficient evidence that they have been creating gemstone accounts to impersonate people. This became fairly obvious after my last discussion with Wyrom and Chris.

[Parkbandit]

https://i.imgflip.com/8718b.jpg?a422952

https://i.imgur.com/g9XYP.jpg


THANK YOU!

[Parkbandit]

This is my 3rd post in a row to show how upset I am... but Neveragain had the c-c-c-combo breaker.. so I guess I'm not upset.

[Parkbandit]

(OR AM I!?)

[Methais]

Yeah I've been gone for 6 months. But keep making things up.

What's being made up? You said those things multiple times. Obviously not in the exact words of OMG OMG OMG THIS IS REALLY REALLY SUPER IT TIME FOR REALZ GUYS!!! but I understand that most things need to be spelled out for you in order for you to get it, especially when humor is involved.


Remember when you said there wouldn't be a democratic backlash in the 2018 elections?

Congratulations on having demonstrated how little you understand about American politics.

Remember how the elections are still 7 months in the future? Tell us more about these election results that haven't happened yet.

Congratulations on having demonstrated how little you understand about American politics.

Or anything that hasn't happened yet.

Or anything involving time.

Or anything at all.

Except for how to be retarded.

And sniff your own farts.

[time4fun]

What happened to you exiting the forums because of all the meanie heads? Tell us why you came back.

As much as I hate to rob you of what is apparently a very comforting story for you, I left because Whirlin asked me to help by posting exclusively in the new forum.

You act as though I just woke up one day and suddenly realized you little 4Chan wannabes were bad for the game.

Whirlin is gone now, so I no longer feel obligated to avoid public posts on these forums. But if it makes you feel better to think it was you, by all means.

[Wrathbringer]

As much as I hate to rob you of what is apparently a very comforting story for you, I left because Whirlin asked me to help by posting exclusively in the new forum.

You act as though I just woke up one day and suddenly realized you little 4Chan wannabes were bad for the game.

Whirlin is gone now, so I no longer feel obligated to avoid public posts on these forums. But if it makes you feel better to think it was you, by all means.

lol @ your rep

[Ashliana]

From what I recall, the only slinking that has taken place was the retard crew slinking their way over to the safe space forums...that failed like the mandate.

Mandate? In any event, I was never a fan of that other forum. I think I posted there once.


"My side isn't wrong, your side is wrong!"

Who are these people that post once and are scared away though? Please defend your position on this.

This is the part you find contentious?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/dEdmW17JnZhiU/giphy.gif

There's a cadre of right-wing circlejerkers, some left-wingers, maybe one or two centrists, and the occasional person who rarely posts, says their one piece and disappears for another few months, and on rare occasions, post a little more. People like Taernath, Jeril, Richard, Drauz, etc.


Please quote just one post of PB being hysterical.

Okay. This exchange, for one. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2014860&highlight=#post2014860)

This, for another. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2014635&highlight=#post2014635)

Whenever he gets really upset, he starts ignoring whatever it was he was talking about, and rants and raves about the person, rather than what he was talking about. Both because of his inability to control himself, but also to distract from how hilariously poorly he was arguing.


How exactly was I conned?

First thing he did was nominate and get confirmed a very young and Conservative judge? If that is the only thing he does during his first term.. it's a win for me and a loss for you.

You and your ilk having daily Trump Meltdowns are just the cherry on top of a delicious sundae.

Thank you for coming back. I knew you would.. just like I knew you would after you left all those other times. You can't stay away, no matter how hard you try. It's part of your low self esteem issues.

If you voted for Trump at any level based on the issues, you got conned. The deficit, national defense, the revitalization of middle America, etc. Not to mention you voted for someone who was openly conspiring with a foreign power. You've rationalized the GOP-donating wealthy looting the country in exchange for the peanuts you've personally received.

You did get a justice confirmed, congrats. It's a pity it came at the cost of introducing purely partisan politics into the process, though, given what Mitch McConnell decided to do with the seat while Obama was in office. If you don't think that's going to bite the GOP in the long-term, you're precisely as stupid as I already know you are.

And again, not sure where you've gotten the notion that I ever "left." I always lurk, even if I'm not particularly motivated to get into one of these back-and-forths you love so much.


Is that how this works? Good to know.

Let me know the exact cutoff. 3 is upset? 2 is ok? 1 is perfectly sane? Is that the benchmark everyone uses on an open forum?

Are you using the same PhD in Psychology that time4fun uses?

"If I act like it's silly, it won't be true! Even if it's completely obvious!"

Spoiler Alert: When you go on a spree of epithet-laced screeds, it's obvious you're upset. Especially when you drop the pretense of caring about the issue you're "discussing" in lieu of those screeds and solely attack the person behind the argument.


How can I flee... AND post 3 posts in a row, therefore so upset?

The only one between the 2 of us that has fled from these forums is you. I've never left.. you've left multiple times now whenever you are outted for stupidity.

Also, you have never, ever "put me in my place". Ever.

Add delusions of grandeur to your many, many mental issues.

As I just mentioned: You flee the argument, in favor of your usual derailing strategy. Case in point. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015124&highlight=#post2015124) You'll just start railing about something else, responding to someone else, etc. And again.... never left, buddy, just because I don't always post daily. And you've been put in your place dozens of times, just like you were here (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015124&highlight=#post2015124).

[Wrathbringer]

Mandate? In any event, I was never a fan of that other forum. I think I posted there once.



This is the part you find contentious?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/dEdmW17JnZhiU/giphy.gif

There's a cadre of right-wing circlejerkers, some left-wingers, maybe one or two centrists, and the occasional person who rarely posts, says their one piece and disappears for another few months, and on rare occasions, post a little more. People like Taernath, Jeril, Richard, Drauz, etc.



Okay. This exchange, for one. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2014860&highlight=#post2014860)

This, for another. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2014635&highlight=#post2014635)

Whenever he gets really upset, he starts ignoring whatever it was he was talking about, and rants and raves about the person, rather than what he was talking about. Both because of his inability to control himself, but also to distract from how hilariously poorly he was arguing.



If you voted for Trump at any level based on the issues, you got conned. The deficit, national defense, the revitalization of middle America, etc. Not to mention you voted for someone who was openly conspiring with a foreign power. You've rationalized the GOP-donating wealthy looting the country in exchange for the peanuts you've personally received.

You did get a justice confirmed, congrats. It's a pity it came at the cost of introducing purely partisan politics into the process, though, given what Mitch McConnell decided to do with the seat while Obama was in office. If you don't think that's going to bite the GOP in the long-term, you're precisely as stupid as I already know you are.

And again, not sure where you've gotten the notion that I ever "left." I always lurk, even if I'm not particularly motivated to get into one of these back-and-forths you love so much.



"If I act like it's silly, it won't be true! Even if it's completely obvious!"

Spoiler Alert: When you go on a spree of epithet-laced screeds, it's obvious you're upset. Especially when you drop the pretense of caring about the issue you're "discussing" in lieu of those screeds and solely attack the person behind the argument.



As I just mentioned: You flee the argument, in favor of your usual derailing strategy. Case in point. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015124&highlight=#post2015124) You'll just start railing about something else, responding to someone else, etc. And again.... never left, buddy, just because I don't always post daily. And you've been put in your place dozens of times, just like you were here (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015124&highlight=#post2015124).

Damn you're retarded.

[Ashliana]

Damn you're retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Methais]

As much as I hate to rob you of what is apparently a very comforting story for you, I left because Whirlin asked me to help by posting exclusively in the new forum.

How did that work out for you? :lol:


You act as though I just woke up one day and suddenly realized you little 4Chan wannabes were bad for the game.

You calling anyone at all a wannabe is beyond anything the word "ironic" can describe.


Whirlin is gone now, so I no longer feel obligated to avoid public posts on these forums. But if it makes you feel better to think it was you, by all means.

Whirlin has been gone from the safe space forum for several months now. Cool logic.

Also lol @ you being Whirlin's bitch.

[Methais]

Okay. This exchange, for one. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2014860&highlight=#post2014860)

Let's have a closer look:



Again, nothing factual. This just shows your political hysteria. You would be doing yourself a huge favor if you started diversifying your news sources.
Seriously. Do you even realize what a flaming hypocritical bitch you are?



Oh how little you know. Go on though, it's fun watching my stalker flail about madly while foaming at the mouth in angst.

Dude. You seriously have some major delusions of grandeur, don't you?

You have absolutely NOTHING to be stalked or obsessed over.

You work at Goodwill.

You sponge off "friends".

You spend all day and night in a room.

Literally, you would be the last person on these message boards anyone would stalk or obsess over.

You must be a very fragile person if you consider either of those as hysterical. Please tell us your definition of hysterical.

Thank you for continuing to be entertaining as fuck though.

[Ashliana]

Let's have a closer look:





You must be a very fragile person if you consider either of those as hysterical. Please tell us your definition of hysterical.

Thank you for continuing to be entertaining as fuck though.

Losing your shit and railing at people because you lost an Internet argument and are throwing a tantrum is hysterical. Sorry, buddy. If you mean hysterical in the sense that PB desperately needs to seek out his Medicare-paid doctor for blood pressure medicine, you'd have to be there in person, though I wouldn't recommend it.

[Methais]

Losing your shit and railing at people because you lost an Internet argument and are throwing a tantrum is hysterical. Sorry, buddy. If you mean hysterical in the sense that PB desperately needs to seek out his Medicare-paid doctor for blood pressure medicine, you'd have to be there in person, though I wouldn't recommend it.

The fact that you consider any of that as hysterical or a tantrum just shows how extra sensitive and retarded you are.

[Ashliana]

The fact that you consider any of that as hysterical or a tantrum just shows how extra sensitive and retarded you are.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif

[Methais]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif

https://media1.tenor.com/images/4de4d6a36cd21720040a344eeaa30511/tenor.gif?itemid=10913912

[Parkbandit]

As much as I hate to rob you of what is apparently a very comforting story for you, I left because Whirlin asked me to help by posting exclusively in the new forum.

LOL. How'd that work out for you?

You are the toxic bitch no one would follow.

Sorry. Honestly, we didn't miss you. At all.

Ok, I did a little because I am entertained by ignorant toxicity... it's a character flaw of mine.


You act as though I just woke up one day and suddenly realized you little 4Chan wannabes were bad for the game.

Whirlin is gone now, so I no longer feel obligated to avoid public posts on these forums. But if it makes you feel better to think it was you, by all means.

You felt obligated?

Seriously?

LOL.

[Methais]

LOL. How'd that work out for you?

You are the toxic bitch no one would follow.

Sorry. Honestly, we didn't miss you. At all.

Ok, I did a little because I am entertained by ignorant toxicity... it's a character flaw of mine.



You felt obligated?

Seriously?

LOL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LoJz0KgqJs

[Taernath]

I left because Whirlin asked me to help by posting exclusively in the new forum.

:lol:

@Whirlin can you confirm this?

"The Official Unofficials ft. time4fun" has a nice ring to it.

[Parkbandit]

If you voted for Trump at any level based on the issues, you got conned.

Who was I going to vote for, Hillary? Stop. You're just being silly now.


The deficit, national defense, the revitalization of middle America, etc.

Wait... are you suggesting you care about any of those?

Your party certainly isn't.


Not to mention you voted for someone who was openly conspiring with a foreign power.

Still waiting for any evidence. All you have so far is conjecture, wishful thinking and hope. Those won't stick in a court... sorry :(


You've rationalized the GOP-donating wealthy looting the country in exchange for the peanuts you've personally received.

I'm personally better off today than I would have been with Hillary. Seems like an easy choice to me.


You did get a justice confirmed, congrats. It's a pity it came at the cost of introducing purely partisan politics into the process, though, given what Mitch McConnell decided to do with the seat while Obama was in office. If you don't think that's going to bite the GOP in the long-term, you're precisely as stupid as I already know you are.

It's called the Biden Rule. Worked perfectly. The ONE thing Joe gave us worth a damn.


And again, not sure where you've gotten the notion that I ever "left." I always lurk, even if I'm not particularly motivated to get into one of these back-and-forths you love so much.

You don't? You can't ever leave it be.. you always drive for that last post on the subject. Look at this thread for examples.

For someone who isn't particularly motivated, you sure seem particularly motivated.

I'm certain, this back and forth will go on for a while... because you aren't particularly motivated......................................... ....


"If I act like it's silly, it won't be true! Even if it's completely obvious!"

Spoiler Alert: When you go on a spree of epithet-laced screeds, it's obvious you're upset. Especially when you drop the pretense of caring about the issue you're "discussing" in lieu of those screeds and solely attack the person behind the argument.

So, there isn't a clear cut rule on a public forum of 3 posts you're upset... it's just whatever you feel like at the time?

You're retarded.


As I just mentioned: You flee the argument, in favor of your usual derailing strategy. Case in point. (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015124&highlight=#post2015124) You'll just start railing about something else, responding to someone else, etc. And again.... never left, buddy, just because I don't always post daily. And you've been put in your place dozens of times, just like you were here (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015124&highlight=#post2015124).

What? You put me in my place?

LOL. We will see when President Trump is still in office, going for 4 more years.. and you are still "B-b-b-b-b-but Russia!" through your tears.

As far as putting you in your place, here's how it really is: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?37278-Obama-effigy-from-tree-on-University-of-Kentucky-campus&p=830836#post830836

You removed all the posts of Kierphe because it literally made you look more retarded than usual.. but there's still entertainment in there for people to read.

[Parkbandit]

:lol:

@Whirlin can you confirm this?

"The Official Unofficials ft. time4fun" has a nice ring to it.

Not sure who's ego is bigger... Whirlin for saying he was the "figurehead" of the new forums.. or time4fun saying she was obligated to post only on the new forums..

Either way.. they were both responsible for that forum's demise.

[Parkbandit]

3rd post.

https://i.imgur.com/dNbP1Bp.gif

[Ashliana]

Who was I going to vote for, Hillary? Stop. You're just being silly now.

If you made your decision based on the issues, you got conned. It's that simple. Your after-the-fact rationalizing isn't particularly interesting.



The deficit, national defense, the revitalization of middle America, etc.Wait... are you suggesting you care about any of those?

Your party certainly isn't.

The deficit has exploded every time the GOP has taken power in most of our (perhaps not your) lifetimes, with one exception: Bush Sr., and he was unpopular with your crowd for that very reason. The GOP's policies will accelerate, not reverse, the decline of middle America. The notion that the right cares about national defense is comical, as you literally voted for someone openly calling for a foreign intelligence agency to commit espionage on his behalf, and who has threatened nuclear war, on Twitter, for no reason. He's weakened our relationship with all our allies, all our trading partners, and is in the midst of waging a trade war, again, for absolutely no reason.


Still waiting for any evidence. All you have so far is conjecture, wishful thinking and hope. Those won't stick in a court... sorry

Sorry, buddy! Your talking point's out of date. We have evidence, which you ignored, remember? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015101#post2015101) And, uhh, multiple people have already been convicted (Flynn, Gates, van der Zwaan) and the last just got sentenced to a short prison sentence. Your failure to read the news reflects only on you.


I'm personally better off today than I would have been with Hillary. Seems like an easy choice to me.

Financially, you might be superficially be better off, in the short term, at the cost of everything that conservatives used to claim you care about (see: policy), and weaker in every other regard. Perhaps an easy choice for you, but in addition to that stance demonstrating that you're an imbecile, it demonstrates you're not really a conservative. Your own personal self-interest is apparently your only motivation.


It's called the Biden Rule. Worked perfectly. The ONE thing Joe gave us worth a damn.

How you rationalize it is your business. Biden did bloviate about it, but the Democrats never did it. The GOP did. Don't blame anyone when it comes back to bite you, though. Similarly, if McConnell changes the rules to a bare majority able to pass bills (which, to his credit, he claims he won't do), don't blame anyone but yourselves.


You don't? You can't ever leave it be.. you always drive for that last post on the subject. Look at this thread for examples.

For someone who isn't particularly motivated, you sure seem particularly motivated.

Nope, never left! I do, however, do as you claim. So do you, though. :)


So, there isn't a clear cut rule on a public forum of 3 posts you're upset... it's just whatever you feel like at the time?

You're retarded.

Something called context matters. Reactionaries don't really like grey areas, though, do you? Oh well. Not everybody thinks in such retarded, reductionist terms as you do. But one can definitely tell when you're off your meds, PB.


What? You put me in my place?

Yup. Sure did. Remember how you completely, utterly failed to respond, relying on a personal insult instead? That would be you capitulating, being put in your place. Shamed.


LOL. We will see when President Trump is still in office, going for 4 more years.. and you are still "B-b-b-b-b-but Russia!" through your tears.

Sure thing, buddy. The first person was just sentenced to jail. Your failure to follow the developments, again, reflects only on you.


As far as putting you in your place, here's how it really is: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?37278-Obama-effigy-from-tree-on-University-of-Kentucky-campus&p=830836#post830836

You removed all the posts of Kierphe because it literally made you look more retarded than usual.. but there's still entertainment in there for people to read.

Notice how you had to reach back 9 1/2 years, and I reached back to 2 days ago? Spoiler Alert: That isn't a coincidence or an accident. You debase yourself on a constant basis, my deluded friend.

[Fortybox]

As much as I hate to rob you of what is apparently a very comforting story for you, I left because Whirlin asked me to help by posting exclusively in the new forum.

You act as though I just woke up one day and suddenly realized you little 4Chan wannabes were bad for the game.

Whirlin is gone now, so I no longer feel obligated to avoid public posts on these forums. But if it makes you feel better to think it was you, by all means.

So you were part of the collusion. Got it. This confirms you were part of the conspiracy.

I’m telling Mueller.

[Fortybox]

Is

[Fortybox]

Ashliana

[Fortybox]

Flimbo? 4 posts!!!!!111one

[Wrathbringer]

If you made your decision based on the issues, you got conned. It's that simple. Your after-the-fact rationalizing isn't particularly interesting.



The deficit has exploded every time the GOP has taken power in most of our (perhaps not your) lifetimes, with one exception: Bush Sr., and he was unpopular with your crowd for that very reason. The GOP's policies will accelerate, not reverse, the decline of middle America. The notion that the right cares about national defense is comical, as you literally voted for someone openly calling for a foreign intelligence agency to commit espionage on his behalf, and who has threatened nuclear war, on Twitter, for no reason. He's weakened our relationship with all our allies, all our trading partners, and is in the midst of waging a trade war, again, for absolutely no reason.



Sorry, buddy! Your talking point's out of date. We have evidence, which you ignored, remember? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015101#post2015101) And, uhh, multiple people have already been convicted (Flynn, Gates, van der Zwaan) and the last just got sentenced to a short prison sentence. Your failure to read the news reflects only on you.



Financially, you might be superficially be better off, in the short term, at the cost of everything that conservatives used to claim you care about (see: policy), and weaker in every other regard. Perhaps an easy choice for you, but in addition to that stance demonstrating that you're an imbecile, it demonstrates you're not really a conservative. Your own personal self-interest is apparently your only motivation.



How you rationalize it is your business. Biden did bloviate about it, but the Democrats never did it. The GOP did. Don't blame anyone when it comes back to bite you, though. Similarly, if McConnell changes the rules to a bare majority able to pass bills (which, to his credit, he claims he won't do), don't blame anyone but yourselves.



Nope, never left! I do, however, do as you claim. So do you, though. :)



Something called context matters. Reactionaries don't really like grey areas, though, do you? Oh well. Not everybody thinks in such retarded, reductionist terms as you do. But one can definitely tell when you're off your meds, PB.



Yup. Sure did. Remember how you completely, utterly failed to respond, relying on a personal insult instead? That would be you capitulating, being put in your place. Shamed.



Sure thing, buddy. The first person was just sentenced to jail. Your failure to follow the developments, again, reflects only on you.



Notice how you had to reach back 9 1/2 years, and I reached back to 2 days ago? Spoiler Alert: That isn't a coincidence or an accident. You debase yourself on a constant basis, my deluded friend.

8959

[Ashliana]

8959

https://i.imgur.com/Q4lU9YS.png

[Fortybox]

8959

That wall of text has to mean Ashliana is Flimbo.

[Wrathbringer]

That wall of text has to mean Ashliana is Flimbo.

It means he/she/it's retarded.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/Q4lU9YS.png

I expected more effort from you. Reported to Bob Ross.

[Parkbandit]

If you made your decision based on the issues, you got conned. It's that simple. Your after-the-fact rationalizing isn't particularly interesting.

You are trying so hard to make sense.. but failing miserably. I feel like I should throw you a life preserver.. but I don't really want to. Keep struggling...

As far as my vote goes... who would I vote for? Hillary? What is it on her platform do you believe lines up with my political beliefs?

I knew what I was getting with Trump: Good judicial nominations (hopefully 1 or 2 more in the next 3 years!) and less government regulations.

PLUS, the entertainment value of seeing snowflakes like you have a complete meltdown. I not only called the election for Trump, I also predicted the entertainment I would receive from him winning.


The deficit has exploded every time the GOP has taken power in most of our (perhaps not your) lifetimes, with one exception: Bush Sr., and he was unpopular with your crowd for that very reason. The GOP's policies will accelerate, not reverse, the decline of middle America. The notion that the right cares about national defense is comical, as you literally voted for someone openly calling for a foreign intelligence agency to commit espionage on his behalf, and who has threatened nuclear war, on Twitter, for no reason. He's weakened our relationship with all our allies, all our trading partners, and is in the midst of waging a trade war, again, for absolutely no reason.

Please tell me the Democrats are suddenly for a balanced budget, a solid middle class and a strong national defense! That would literally be music to my ears... unfortunately for you: that's just bullshit on your part and you know it.


Sorry, buddy! Your talking point's out of date. We have evidence, which you ignored, remember? (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=2015101#post2015101) And, uhh, multiple people have already been convicted (Flynn, Gates, van der Zwaan) and the last just got sentenced to a short prison sentence. Your failure to read the news reflects only on you.

I mean, I guess you know better than Mueller himself, who said there was no evidence of criminal wrong doing on Trump's part.

It's not like you have an upset axe to grind or anything.............


Financially, you might be superficially be better off, in the short term, at the cost of everything that conservatives used to claim you care about (see: policy), and weaker in every other regard. Perhaps an easy choice for you, but in addition to that stance demonstrating that you're an imbecile, it demonstrates you're not really a conservative. Your own personal self-interest is apparently your only motivation.

Wrong as usual. I AM better off today. I'll BE better off tomorrow.

Again, my alternative would be Hillary Clinton. Do you think she would propose tax reform that included a cut of any sort?

My choice was between Hillary Clinton and Trump. It was the right call for us to make on 11/8/16 and it's still the right call today. I'm sorry you can't seem to get over it. Poor you.


How you rationalize it is your business. Biden did bloviate about it, but the Democrats never did it. The GOP did. Don't blame anyone when it comes back to bite you, though. Similarly, if McConnell changes the rules to a bare majority able to pass bills (which, to his credit, he claims he won't do), don't blame anyone but yourselves.

Harry Reid already broke the Senate rule.. and Biden set the precedent already. Do you think we shouldn't have done it? You're really stupid.


Nope, never left! I do, however, do as you claim. So do you, though. :)

Where did I say I wasn't particularly motivated? I LOVE these back and forths and can keep going on forever. YOU were the one lying when you said you didn't like them, as evidenced by the post I'm quoting and your history here.

You claim you're above it.. but you're only lying to yourself. We've seen your posting history here.


Something called context matters. Reactionaries don't really like grey areas, though, do you? Oh well. Not everybody thinks in such retarded, reductionist terms as you do. But one can definitely tell when you're off your meds, PB.

You made the claim that I was upset. Your evidence was 3 posts in one topic.

You made this dumb rule.. but at least we both can agree you're dumb.


Yup. Sure did. Remember how you completely, utterly failed to respond, relying on a personal insult instead? That would be you capitulating, being put in your place. Shamed.

Delusional.

You haven't put anyone in their place here. Ever.


Sure thing, buddy. The first person was just sentenced to jail. Your failure to follow the developments, again, reflects only on you.

So, the first person was sentenced to jail for being on the Trump Administration and colluding with the Russians?

Anything else, is just something entirely different.

Sorry.


Notice how you had to reach back 9 1/2 years, and I reached back to 2 days ago? Spoiler Alert: That isn't a coincidence or an accident. You debase yourself on a constant basis, my deluded friend.

I'm not your buddy. I'm not your friend.

And given that you created another login to use to agree and got caught with was literally the dumbest thing to ever happen on this message board.

And you've done PLENTY of really stupid things.

[Parkbandit]

Go away already Macguyver.

[Fortybox]

Go away already Macguyver.

But who is Ashliana??

[Parkbandit]

But who is Ashliana??

A nobody.

Literally.

[Ashliana]

You are trying so hard to make sense.. but failing miserably. I feel like I should throw you a life preserver.. but I don't really want to. Keep struggling...

As far as my vote goes... who would I vote for? Hillary? What is it on her platform do you believe lines up with my political beliefs?

I knew what I was getting with Trump: Good judicial nominations (hopefully 1 or 2 more in the next 3 years!) and less government regulations.

PLUS, the entertainment value of seeing snowflakes like you have a complete meltdown. I not only called the election for Trump, I also predicted the entertainment I would receive from him winning.

:rofl: It's a moot point, as you've established you don't really have any political beliefs, beyond your short term, self-serving interests and your tribal interests.


Please tell me the Democrats are suddenly for a balanced budget, a solid middle class and a strong national defense! That would literally be music to my ears... unfortunately for you: that's just bullshit on your part and you know it.

Democrats are far more fiscally responsible than the GOP. That's totally beyond dispute at this point. The conservative advocacy organizations (https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/the-omnibus-bill-was-fiscal-disaster-heres-how-make-sure-it-doesnt) have been talking about it (https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-expert-calls-omnibus-embarrassing-rundown-broken-promises) since last year (https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/massive-spending-bill-fails-meet-conservative-priorities). What a surprise that that information hasn't found its way to you, though it did to me.

There's a reason why the peanuts that individuals' tax rates were cut are temporary, and the corporate tax cuts are permanent. Spoiler Alert: It isn't because the GOP cares about the middle class. Similarly, their failed efforts to turn back the clock on healthcare expansion don't serve the middle class, nor do their efforts on the FCC, the environment, and basically any other issue. Likewise, the GOP absolutely destroyed its credibility on national defense, after spending how many trillions of dollars in Iraq? Trump's main foreign policy accomplishment has been threatening nuclear war on Twitter, and dismantling the State Department. Your ignorance of those issues doesn't constitute a reasoned position.


I mean, I guess you know better than Mueller himself, who said there was no evidence of criminal wrong doing on Trump's part. It's not like you have an upset axe to grind or anything.............

... Yeah. You need to work on your reading comprehension. Just like Trump does. That's for the better, though, if it lulls him into the same erroneous thinking you just demonstrated. That's what you get for only reading Trump's tweets or headlines on Drudge: an incomplete picture based on a selective interpretation designed not to inflame the cheetoh-in-chief's feefees.


Wrong as usual. I AM better off today. I'll BE better off tomorrow.

Again... superficially, in the short-term, at the greater cost of American power, influence, an increasingly small middle class, damage to all our relationships with our allies and trade partners, etc.


Again, my alternative would be Hillary Clinton. Do you think she would propose tax reform that included a cut of any sort?

My choice was between Hillary Clinton and Trump. It was the right call for us to make on 11/8/16 and it's still the right call today. I'm sorry you can't seem to get over it. Poor you.

No, she probably wouldn't have, as the rationale for a tax cut made no sense, provided that you actually care about the things you claim to care about: a balanced budget, the middle class, etc. When Trump took office, jobless claims were at record lows, the deficit was finally under reasonable control, the stock market was at record highs. A permanent tax cut for corporations and the super-wealthy didn't make a lot of sense. But they, like you, are self-serving: not meaningfully "conservative."


Harry Reid already broke the Senate rule.. and Biden set the precedent already. Do you think we shouldn't have done it? You're really stupid.

Um.. No. Reid used reconciliation, as the GOP did for their tax bill. That's not what I was talking about, and again, McConnell has said he won't be doing it. (If he does, he'll regret it). Trump has been trying, so far in vain, to get him to do it.


Where did I say I wasn't particularly motivated? I LOVE these back and forths and can keep going on forever. YOU were the one lying when you said you didn't like them, as evidenced by the post I'm quoting and your history here.

You claim you're above it.. but you're only lying to yourself. We've seen your posting history here.

Erm.. No, again. This is the third time in a single exchange that you're having reading comprehension problems. Perhaps you should re-read the thread.



You made the claim that I was upset. Your evidence was 3 posts in one topic.

You made this dumb rule.. but at least we both can agree you're dumb.

Fourth time. You really need to take a breath, read what's being written, think back the half-century ago to your grade school education, and try again.


Delusional.

You haven't put anyone in their place here. Ever.

:rofl: Except for two days ago, where you totally opted out of an argument (i.e., conceded). You got blown out. :)


So, the first person was sentenced to jail for being on the Trump Administration and colluding with the Russians?

Anything else, is just something entirely different.

Sorry.

Yeah...... The Special Counsel, appointed to investigate Trump et. al's links to Russia and subsequent crimes? The very same one has convicted several people, and sentenced another. Stay tuned. But again, your failure to keep up with the news is on you.


I'm not your buddy. I'm not your friend.

Try again. (http://bfy.tw/1Jhq)


And given that you created another login to use to agree and got caught with was literally the dumbest thing to ever happen on this message board.

And you've done PLENTY of really stupid things.

This almost counts as a response, except for that part where you simply repeated the thing you already did, and couldn't actually come up with anything else, compared to my example two days ago. Blown out yet again. Perhaps next time you'll try to actually make an argument instead of just repeating the last thing you tried and failed with.

[Wrathbringer]

tl;dr You're retarded.

[Parkbandit]

Derp derp

I literally started to read your response.. but then realized you aren't particularly motivated for the back and forth and assumed your tl;dr was full of lies, stupidity, assumptions and excuses.

So I didn't bother reading.

I know you spend a great deal of time on that post.. but I wasn't particularly motivated to sift through all the stupid to find an inkling of intelligence.

Also, skimming through it, I saw no underlines, bold or italics.. so I didn't think you really did your best work on it.

Overall, I assigned the letter grade you always crave..


http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B27D/production/_94739654_thinkstockphotos-524905849.jpg

[Ashliana]

Nonsensical response that didn't address anything that Ashliana said.

Spoiler Alert: That was you spectacularly failing again. Fleeing. Conceding. Losing. Being blown out of the water. Example #2 in the last 2 days.

[time4fun]

[QUOTE=Parkbandit;2015627]You are trying so hard to make sense.. but failing miserably. I feel like I should throw you a life preserver.. but I don't really want to. Keep struggling...

As far as my vote goes... who would I vote for? Hillary? What is it on her platform do you believe lines up with my political beliefs?

I knew what I was getting with Trump: Good judicial nominations (hopefully 1 or 2 more in the next 3 years!) and less government regulations.

PLUS, the entertainment value of seeing snowflakes like you have a complete meltdown. I not only called the election for Trump, I also predicted the entertainment I would receive from him winning.



Please tell me the Democrats are suddenly for a balanced budget, a solid middle class and a strong national defense! That would literally be music to my ears... unfortunately for you: that's just bullshit on your part and you know it.



https://media.giphy.com/media/L8XuphFGqlSfe/giphy.gif

Don't wreck'em too hard Parkbandit !

You don't actually know anything about deficit spending under the previous 6 administrations, do you?

Let's Review: (https://www.thebalance.com/deficit-by-president-what-budget-deficits-hide-3306151)


Reagan (R) 8 years: 132% increase
Bush Sr (R) 4 years: 36% increase
Clinton (D) 8 years: 1% reduction
Bush Jr (R) 8 years: 57% increase
Obama (D) 8 years: 57% increase
Trump (R) 4 years: currently on track to increase the deficit by almost as much as Obama did in 8 years


Obama is the one President there that had an actual Recession to deal with. His spending increase was required to keep the economy of completely shutting down.

You've been trained to think about nothing but spending- as though that's the sole factor that adds to the debt.

Meanwhile Republicans continue to slash revenue without actually reducing spending. PS $1 of government spending is actually better for the deficit than $1 of reduced revenue.

It never ceases to amaze me how poorly acquainted you people are with reality.

[time4fun]

How did that work out for you? :lol:

Sorry, I don't understand the question. Nothing bad happened to me. My quality of life isn't linked to which game forum I use.






Whirlin has been gone from the safe space forum for several months now. Cool logic.

I hardly played Gemstone from November through Feb due to a new job. But yeah, I guess I should have been here posting the same gif over and over again in a thread about a subject I'm too scared to have an actual opinion on like a winner.

It's fine, I'm sure your life only looks sad.

[time4fun]

Spoiler Alert: That was you spectacularly failing again. Fleeing. Conceding. Losing. Being blown out of the water. Example #2 in the last 2 days.

You know if we stop responding to them-we can get back to discussing the Russia investigation

[time4fun]

Several stories broke today:

1) A continuation of the previous news cycle about the report Mueller is supposedly planning on putting together. It looks like the timeline is expected to be sometime in June or July. That would make sense as Mueller isn't going to want to put anything out too close to the election. The fact that he is planning a report to answer "the public's questions" indicates that Mueller likely doesn't believe that he can indict a sitting President (either by constitutional law or by the DoJ's own stance). What's really interesting about this is that it's also typically DoJ policy not to release information in situations where no indictment is warranted. That would suggest either that Mueller believes that Trump is guilty of obstruction (and is writing a report in lieu of a criminal indictment he doesn't believe can be made), OR that Mueller has decided that simply declining indictment isn't enough- that this warrants a public Comey-style announcement. That would seem odd as it would open his investigation up to the same malpractice critiques Comey faced.

2) CNN is reporting (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/mueller-special-counsel-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html) that Mueller's team has been intercepting Russian Oligarchs who enter the US and questioning them (in one case actually taking electronic devices). Apparently he's looking to track Russian money that may have been funneled into the 2016 election through various means. The investigation into illegal campaign contributions via Russia has been reported on in the past, but this is the first time anyone has reported on targeting of Oligarchs.

We tend to run under the assumption that the reason why Republicans have been so reticent to investigation Russian election meddling is that they don't want to go down with Trump if they find something. But in the back of my mind, I've been wondering if maybe the concerns hit a bit closer to home. Russia was getting involved heavily in conservative circles (think NRA, Cambridge Analytica, etc). Republicans may also be afraid that investigating too closely will turn up evidence that Russian money or aid went to them. I'm not suggesting willful collusion, but if it turns out Russia DID use the NRA to funnel tens of millions of dollars into the election to help Republicans, just being associated with the NRA could suddenly become politically dangerous.

3) Yesterday the Judge in one of Manafort's cases (the one where he's targeting Mueller's investigation specifically) basically told him he had no case (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/381620-judge-rips-manaforts-lawsuit-to-rein-in-mueller-report) based on Mueller's filings. Manafort is definitely fighting until the bitter end, but the vast majority of what Mueller has been letting out publicly seems all bent on putting additional pressure on Manafort to flip. It will be interesting to see if he finally cracks.

4) Mueller seems to be continuing to narrow in on Stone's ties to wikileaks (http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-investigating-roger-stone-claim-about-julian-assange-dinner-2018-4). My best guess is that he's pretty darn sure that if faced with any kind of prison time, Stone will sing like a canary. Stone is abjectly self-serving and seems like an obvious potential weak link. In fairness to Stone though, he actually seems to have a pretty good alibi (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/04/an-alleged-dinner-with-assange-is-unlikely-the-real-roger-stone-questions-are-elsewhere/?utm_term=.83da55690ec9) in regards to having had dinner with Assange. Unfortunately, that email about dinner with Assange is honestly the least of his concerns.

[Parkbandit]

Spoiler Alert: That was you spectacularly failing again. Fleeing. Conceding. Losing. Being blown out of the water. Example #2 in the last 2 days.

I think we've sufficiently covered delusions of grandeur.

Let's move onto your personality disorders.

When did you start hearing other voices in your head?

When was the first time you can remember the self loathing feeling you obviously have?

[Fortybox]

Several stories broke today:

1) A continuation of the previous news cycle about the report Mueller is supposedly planning on putting together. It looks like the timeline is expected to be sometime in June or July. That would make sense as Mueller isn't going to want to put anything out too close to the election. The fact that he is planning a report to answer "the public's questions" indicates that Mueller likely doesn't believe that he can indict a sitting President (either by constitutional law or by the DoJ's own stance). What's really interesting about this is that it's also typically DoJ policy not to release information in situations where no indictment is warranted. That would suggest either that Mueller believes that Trump is guilty of obstruction (and is writing a report in lieu of a criminal indictment he doesn't believe can be made), OR that Mueller has decided that simply declining indictment isn't enough- that this warrants a public Comey-style announcement. That would seem odd as it would open his investigation up to the same malpractice critiques Comey faced.

2) CNN is reporting (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/mueller-special-counsel-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html) that Mueller's team has been intercepting Russian Oligarchs who enter the US and questioning them (in one case actually taking electronic devices). Apparently he's looking to track Russian money that may have been funneled into the 2016 election through various means. The investigation into illegal campaign contributions via Russia has been reported on in the past, but this is the first time anyone has reported on targeting of Oligarchs.

We tend to run under the assumption that the reason why Republicans have been so reticent to investigation Russian election meddling is that they don't want to go down with Trump if they find something. But in the back of my mind, I've been wondering if maybe the concerns hit a bit closer to home. Russia was getting involved heavily in conservative circles (think NRA, Cambridge Analytica, etc). Republicans may also be afraid that investigating too closely will turn up evidence that Russian money or aid went to them. I'm not suggesting willful collusion, but if it turns out Russia DID use the NRA to funnel tens of millions of dollars into the election to help Republicans, just being associated with the NRA could suddenly become politically dangerous.

3) Yesterday the Judge in one of Manafort's cases (the one where he's targeting Mueller's investigation specifically) basically told him he had no case (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/381620-judge-rips-manaforts-lawsuit-to-rein-in-mueller-report) based on Mueller's filings. Manafort is definitely fighting until the bitter end, but the vast majority of what Mueller has been letting out publicly seems all bent on putting additional pressure on Manafort to flip. It will be interesting to see if he finally cracks.

4) Mueller seems to be continuing to narrow in on Stone's ties to wikileaks (http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-investigating-roger-stone-claim-about-julian-assange-dinner-2018-4). My best guess is that he's pretty darn sure that if faced with any kind of prison time, Stone will sing like a canary. Stone is abjectly self-serving and seems like an obvious potential weak link. In fairness to Stone though, he actually seems to have a pretty good alibi (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/04/an-alleged-dinner-with-assange-is-unlikely-the-real-roger-stone-questions-are-elsewhere/?utm_term=.83da55690ec9) in regards to having had dinner with Assange. Unfortunately, that email about dinner with Assange is honestly the least of his concerns.

Tl;dr

You realize how much effort you are putting into a forum about games? LOL

[Parkbandit]

Several stories broke today:

1) A continuation of the previous news cycle about the report Mueller is supposedly planning on putting together. It looks like the timeline is expected to be sometime in June or July. That would make sense as Mueller isn't going to want to put anything out too close to the election. The fact that he is planning a report to answer "the public's questions" indicates that Mueller likely doesn't believe that he can indict a sitting President (either by constitutional law or by the DoJ's own stance). What's really interesting about this is that it's also typically DoJ policy not to release information in situations where no indictment is warranted. That would suggest either that Mueller believes that Trump is guilty of obstruction (and is writing a report in lieu of a criminal indictment he doesn't believe can be made), OR that Mueller has decided that simply declining indictment isn't enough- that this warrants a public Comey-style announcement. That would seem odd as it would open his investigation up to the same malpractice critiques Comey faced.

2) CNN is reporting (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/politics/mueller-special-counsel-investigation-russian-oligarchs/index.html) that Mueller's team has been intercepting Russian Oligarchs who enter the US and questioning them (in one case actually taking electronic devices). Apparently he's looking to track Russian money that may have been funneled into the 2016 election through various means. The investigation into illegal campaign contributions via Russia has been reported on in the past, but this is the first time anyone has reported on targeting of Oligarchs.

We tend to run under the assumption that the reason why Republicans have been so reticent to investigation Russian election meddling is that they don't want to go down with Trump if they find something. But in the back of my mind, I've been wondering if maybe the concerns hit a bit closer to home. Russia was getting involved heavily in conservative circles (think NRA, Cambridge Analytica, etc). Republicans may also be afraid that investigating too closely will turn up evidence that Russian money or aid went to them. I'm not suggesting willful collusion, but if it turns out Russia DID use the NRA to funnel tens of millions of dollars into the election to help Republicans, just being associated with the NRA could suddenly become politically dangerous.

3) Yesterday the Judge in one of Manafort's cases (the one where he's targeting Mueller's investigation specifically) basically told him he had no case (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/381620-judge-rips-manaforts-lawsuit-to-rein-in-mueller-report) based on Mueller's filings. Manafort is definitely fighting until the bitter end, but the vast majority of what Mueller has been letting out publicly seems all bent on putting additional pressure on Manafort to flip. It will be interesting to see if he finally cracks.

4) Mueller seems to be continuing to narrow in on Stone's ties to wikileaks (http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-investigating-roger-stone-claim-about-julian-assange-dinner-2018-4). My best guess is that he's pretty darn sure that if faced with any kind of prison time, Stone will sing like a canary. Stone is abjectly self-serving and seems like an obvious potential weak link. In fairness to Stone though, he actually seems to have a pretty good alibi (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/04/an-alleged-dinner-with-assange-is-unlikely-the-real-roger-stone-questions-are-elsewhere/?utm_term=.83da55690ec9) in regards to having had dinner with Assange. Unfortunately, that email about dinner with Assange is honestly the least of his concerns.



Soooooo....... still no collusion.

Check.

[Parkbandit]

In terminal medical cases, doctors often deal with patients who move through “stages” that begin with denial. These so-called Kübler-Ross stages can be a long road toward acceptance. A weird form of Kübler-Ross seems to have taken hold of the media. Rather than refusing to accept indicators of impending death, many journalists and analysts seem incapable of accepting signs that the Trump presidency could survive.
That painful process was more evident Tuesday night when the Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html) that special counsel Robert Mueller (http://thehill.com/people/robert-mueller) told the White House last month that Trump was not considered a “target” but only a “subject” of the investigation. After a year of being assured that “bombshell” developments and “smoking gun” evidence was sealing the criminal case against Trump, the dissonance was too great for many who refuse to accept the obvious meaning of this disclosure.
The U.S. Attorney’s manual defines a “subject” as a “person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury's investigation.” It is a designation that can change but it is also a meaningful description of the current status of an individual. Mueller at this time apparently does not believe Trump meets the definition of a target or a “person as to whom the prosecutor or the grand jury has substantial evidence linking him or her to the commission of a crime and who, in the judgment of the prosecutor, is a putative defendant.” That would have been less notable when Mueller was appointed in 2017 than it is now, after more than a year, dozens of criminal counts, hundreds of thousands of documents, and a bevy of cooperating witnesses.That Mueller does not believe there is “substantial evidence linking [Trump] to the commission of a crime” would seem to merit some, albeit grudging, recognition. However, there has been a disturbing lack of objectivity in the coverage of this investigation from the start. Throughout it, some of us have cautioned that the criminal case against Trump was far weaker than media suggested. Fired FBI Director James Comey (http://thehill.com/people/james-comey) himself told Congress that Trump was not a target of his investigation. Indeed, Trump was reportedly upset with Comey largely because Comey would not say that publicly.
When Trump fired Comey, I supported the call for a special counsel, and I still support Mueller in completing his investigation. However, the case of criminal conduct by Trump has not materially improved over the last year. Last October, Mueller brought the first indictments against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort (http://thehill.com/people/paul-manafort) and his deputy, Richard Gates. Notably, none of the indictments were linked to the campaign, let alone Trump. When that obvious point was raised, we were told that it meant nothing and Mueller was likely holding back the really damaging indictments while pressuring Trump aides. Commentators continue to announce “bombshell” disclosures against Trump on a daily basis, with experts alleging clear cases for treason to obstruction to witness tampering and other crimes.
Then, in November, came the disclosure of plea agreements with former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn and former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos (http://thehill.com/people/george-papadopoulos). However, these pleas were for making individual false statements to federal investigators. Neither the charges nor the narratives in the filings tied Trump or his campaign to any criminal act. Later indictments involving lawyer Alex van der Zwaan and internet operator Richard Pinedo involved a false statement and a single count of identity fraud, again unrelated to Trump or his campaign. Nevertheless, commentators insisted Mueller was just laying the groundwork for his major filing.
In February, Mueller handed down indictments of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations for election-related crimes, from hacking to identity fraud. Not only did these charges not implicate Trump or his campaign, but the filing expressly stated that no one in the Trump campaign knowingly engaged Russians in these efforts. Now, Mueller reportedly has said he does not consider Trump a “target” of the criminal investigation. Looking at each of the prior filings, the disclosure would seem consistent with a lack of compelling evidence of a crime by Trump. Indeed, it would indicate Trump’s status has not changed from when Comey told Congress that Trump was not a target.
Still, some analysts immediately denied that Mueller’s disclosure was anything but bad news for Trump. On CNN, legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin insisted that “being a ‘subject’ is a very serious thing” and a “very significant designation” because it is clear “the FBI is investigating the president.” Of course, the only lower designation in a criminal investigation would be “witness.” Moreover, it was confirmed last year that Trump was being investigated.

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/381593-when-will-the-media-accept-that-trump-is-not-a-criminal-target

Sorry :(

[cwolff]

Tl;dr

You realize how much effort you are putting into a forum about games? LOL

Its great isnt it? I get a lot from her perspective and don't even have to buy simucoins for it.

[Neveragain]

In terminal medical cases, doctors often deal with patients who move through “stages” that begin with denial. These so-called Kübler-Ross stages can be a long road toward acceptance. A weird form of Kübler-Ross seems to have taken hold of the media. Rather than refusing to accept indicators of impending death, many journalists and analysts seem incapable of accepting signs that the Trump presidency could survive.
That painful process was more evident Tuesday night when the Washington Post reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mueller-told-trumps-attorneys-the-president-remains-under-investigation-but-is-not-currently-a-criminal-target/2018/04/03/d7832cf0-36c1-11e8-acd5-35eac230e514_story.html) that special counsel Robert Mueller (http://thehill.com/people/robert-mueller) told the White House last month that Trump was not considered a “target” but only a “subject” of the investigation. After a year of being assured that “bombshell” developments and “smoking gun” evidence was sealing the criminal case against Trump, the dissonance was too great for many who refuse to accept the obvious meaning of this disclosure.
The U.S. Attorney’s manual defines a “subject” as a “person whose conduct is within the scope of the grand jury's investigation.” It is a designation that can change but it is also a meaningful description of the current status of an individual. Mueller at this time apparently does not believe Trump meets the definition of a target or a “person as to whom the prosecutor or the grand jury has substantial evidence linking him or her to the commission of a crime and who, in the judgment of the prosecutor, is a putative defendant.” That would have been less notable when Mueller was appointed in 2017 than it is now, after more than a year, dozens of criminal counts, hundreds of thousands of documents, and a bevy of cooperating witnesses.That Mueller does not believe there is “substantial evidence linking [Trump] to the commission of a crime” would seem to merit some, albeit grudging, recognition. However, there has been a disturbing lack of objectivity in the coverage of this investigation from the start. Throughout it, some of us have cautioned that the criminal case against Trump was far weaker than media suggested. Fired FBI Director James Comey (http://thehill.com/people/james-comey) himself told Congress that Trump was not a target of his investigation. Indeed, Trump was reportedly upset with Comey largely because Comey would not say that publicly.
When Trump fired Comey, I supported the call for a special counsel, and I still support Mueller in completing his investigation. However, the case of criminal conduct by Trump has not materially improved over the last year. Last October, Mueller brought the first indictments against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort (http://thehill.com/people/paul-manafort) and his deputy, Richard Gates. Notably, none of the indictments were linked to the campaign, let alone Trump. When that obvious point was raised, we were told that it meant nothing and Mueller was likely holding back the really damaging indictments while pressuring Trump aides. Commentators continue to announce “bombshell” disclosures against Trump on a daily basis, with experts alleging clear cases for treason to obstruction to witness tampering and other crimes.
Then, in November, came the disclosure of plea agreements with former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn and former campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos (http://thehill.com/people/george-papadopoulos). However, these pleas were for making individual false statements to federal investigators. Neither the charges nor the narratives in the filings tied Trump or his campaign to any criminal act. Later indictments involving lawyer Alex van der Zwaan and internet operator Richard Pinedo involved a false statement and a single count of identity fraud, again unrelated to Trump or his campaign. Nevertheless, commentators insisted Mueller was just laying the groundwork for his major filing.
In February, Mueller handed down indictments of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian organizations for election-related crimes, from hacking to identity fraud. Not only did these charges not implicate Trump or his campaign, but the filing expressly stated that no one in the Trump campaign knowingly engaged Russians in these efforts. Now, Mueller reportedly has said he does not consider Trump a “target” of the criminal investigation. Looking at each of the prior filings, the disclosure would seem consistent with a lack of compelling evidence of a crime by Trump. Indeed, it would indicate Trump’s status has not changed from when Comey told Congress that Trump was not a target.
Still, some analysts immediately denied that Mueller’s disclosure was anything but bad news for Trump. On CNN, legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin insisted that “being a ‘subject’ is a very serious thing” and a “very significant designation” because it is clear “the FBI is investigating the president.” Of course, the only lower designation in a criminal investigation would be “witness.” Moreover, it was confirmed last year that Trump was being investigated.

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/381593-when-will-the-media-accept-that-trump-is-not-a-criminal-target

Sorry :(

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[Fortybox]

Soooooo....... still no collusion.

Check.

Isn’t it ironic...that the person who is complaining about collusion actually colluded with Whirlin to try to take down this forum, and is now back posting on the forum?

[Fortybox]

Its great isnt it? I get a lot from her perspective and don't even have to buy simucoins for it.

Me too. I get a big Flimbo style wall of text that doesn’t prove collusion happened at all. Nothing happened.

[Wrathbringer]

So, he doesn’t have anything which is what I thought.

However, if I were a betting man I still think Putin has dirt on him mainly based on the meek almost master/slave silent/implied approval to all of Putin’s misdeeds.

In all,if Trump survives all this he’ll see a jump in approval ratings to 60% (seems impossible but I really see this happening; buoyed by a re-energized White populace). I think he will get a 2nd term as long as he stops with this teenage-angst twitter rants and starts putting nominally competent people in cabinet positions. I also strongly believe he’ll do the most damage to US democracy in his 2nd term or the last year of his 1st.

You're retarded.

[Ashliana]

Blah, blah, blah

Twice in two days, PB. It's no wonder that you voted for Trump; you share his complete shamelessness.

[Wrathbringer]

Twice in two days, PB. It's no wonder that you voted for Trump; you share his complete shamelessness.

You're retarded.

[Ashliana]

You're retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[cwolff]

Me too. I get a big Flimbo style wall of text that doesn’t prove collusion happened at all. Nothing happened.

That's what they said about Watergate too. But, the difference is that we know there was collusion. Its been verified by the trumps. Sure they lied and denied and covered up, but it all came out. Now its a matter of separating the criminal from the non criminal.

Edit: ya Flimbos cool too. I'm glad to see him back

[cwolff]

Collusion isn’t a crime though in of itself. I think Mueller’s primary implicit duty as an American is to get some kind of verifiable proof that the President of the United States is a thrall for our arch-nemesis, the Russians. That is/should be the main objective.

That is something he's looking at. When he's done with the potus part he'll submit his findings to congress

[audioserf]

Pee tape is real

[Methais]

Sorry, I don't understand the question.

I am shocked.


Nothing bad happened to me. My quality of life isn't linked to which game forum I use.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/EouEzI5bBR8uk/giphy.gif


I hardly played Gemstone from November through Feb due to a new job.

Do you now make even more than everyone else here combined like you claimed in the past?

Now that you mention it though, that must be why LNet was way less retarded for a while. Then you came back cunting things up, which is the case everywhere you go.


But yeah, I guess I should have been here posting the same gif over and over again

It would certainly be much better than you cunting things up with your butthurt fueled walls of text that no one reads.


in a thread about a subject I'm too scared to have an actual opinion on like a winner.

The thing you and your crew of dildo tards are incapable of understanding is that normal people aren’t interested in having serious debates with fringe retards like you. It’s a complete waste of time. So instead you get laughed at because if you’re going to be cunting things up all day every day, the silver lining is that your extreme stupidity is entertaining.

Keep spending hours upon hours posting massive walls of text full of false hope and butthurt that nobody reads though. I’m not being sarcastic either. I mean it when I say that. Please keep it up. I’m sure that if you do it enough, Washington will see just how upset you are over Hillary losing and they’ll impeach Trump and put Hillary in office, just for you.


It's fine, I'm sure your life only looks sad.

Not only does your life look sad, but it actually is sad. At least it’s funny sad. Not funny for you, but for everyone else. Except maybe cwolff but he’s basically Backlash’s retarded little brother.

Also:
https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Of course I have body shaming issues too.. anyone would in my place.

This is a safe place It. Share your experiences with us.

It must be torture to be a little girl trapped inside that hideous man body.

Go ahead with your story.

[Ashliana]

Reeding iz hard!

We know, PB. Don't beat yourself up about it too hard.

[Methais]

I would also like to add that the previous post was made while taking a massive dump.

This post is post-dump, but the previous post was mid-dump.

[Parkbandit]

The thing you and your crew of dildo tards don’t understand is that normal people aren’t interested in having serious debates with fringe retards like you. It’s a complete waste of time. So instead you get laughed at because if you’re going to be cunting things up all day every day, the silver lining is that your extreme stupidity is entertaining.

Keep spending hours upon hours posting massive walls of text full of false hope and butthurt that nobody reads though. I’m not being sarcastic either. I mean it when I say that. Please keep it up. I’m sure that if you do it enough, Washington will see just how upset you are over Hillary losing and they’ll impeach Trump and put Hillary in office, just for you.


That fringe retarded section of the Democrat Party is their majority though. The ones in power have to placate to these morons, even though they are just using them.

The best part is: These morons have no idea they are being used to gen up rage against what they really believe was a stolen election. Hillary SHOULD be President.. they did everything they could to make that happen and if it weren't for the normal Americans, it would have come to fruition.

It's not fair!

[Parkbandit]

I just like to pretend to be a pretty girl in a pretty dress and to live in that reality with whoever I can lure in. You mean people call it Catfishing.. I call it just trying to find a date.

I can't imagine what you are going through... mostly because I'm not a nutjob.

[Ashliana]

I just like to make shit up because I'm not intelligent enough to come up with anything that actually corresponds to what people say to me. :(

We know, PB. You've been showing us that for more than a decade.

[Fortybox]

I’m more interested in the Whirlin/Time4fun collusion than the non-existent Russia one. Why doesn’t anyone care??? A special counsel should be appointed to explore this.

[Parkbandit]

When I gaze in the mirror, I get so angry with my looks. No amount of plastic surgery will ever make me happy, so I just remove all the mirrors in my house, boot up my computer and I can become the pretty little girl I always wanted to be online.

Yikes. Perhaps too much sharing. Let's move on to another one of your disorders: Multiple personalities. Why do you think you have the need to have multiple identities on a simple role-playing gaming forum?

[Methais]

Hey bud, PB has been making far more illuminating and spot on points than you. He has a crude grasp on American politics but has an uncanny “by the gut” instinct for people and society that could only have been earned through years of customer interaction and salesman skills as a hot tub installer. Show respect to a learned elder!

PB, I hope you continue to post, as I think you, Neveragain, and Fortybox are probably the only ones to read between the lines in our vapid and crumbling democratic society. Thank you, sir.

Shut up Necro.


I’m more interested in the Whirlin/Time4fun collusion than the non-existent Russia one. Why doesn’t anyone care??? A special counsel should be appointed to explore this.

Yes, I do believe a special counsel should be appointed to investigate this. If nothing else, it will still be less of a waste of time than the Russia investigation.

[Parkbandit]

Hey bud, PB has been making far more illuminating and spot on points than you. He has a crude grasp on American politics but has an uncanny “by the gut” instinct for people and society that could only have been earned through years of customer interaction and salesman skills as a hot tub installer. Show respect to a learned elder!

PB, I hope you continue to post, as I think you, Neveragain, and Fortybox are probably the only ones to read between the lines in our vapid and crumbling democratic society. Thank you, sir.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/49/49c2ee6a615be9580be1aa4356c99b354cc0e73f408a9db829 a0c4d18d55c3b4.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Yes, I do believe a special counsel should be appointed to investigate this. If nothing else, it will still be less of a waste of time than the Russia investigation.

Less money as well. I will investigate this collusion for only $1,000.00 US dollars.

[Methais]

Less money as well. I will investigate this collusion for only $1,000.00 US dollars.

I’ll do it for 1000 Simucoins.

[Ashliana]

I just like to make shit up because I'm not intelligent enough to come up with anything that actually corresponds to what people say to me. :(

You don't have to keep repeating yourself. And, uhh, you do realize the quote you made your signature (... lol), doesn't actually imply hypocrisy for the times when I do feel like getting into a back-and-forth.

I've known you've had reading comprehension problems for years, but this is an entirely new level of you falling on your face. Kudos on demonstrating the ability to keep surprising people after a decade, even if it's with the increasing depths of your stupidity. Clearly, you never went to college, but that's like third grade level reading comprehension.

Yikes.

[Parkbandit]

Well, sometimes I NEED someone to agree with or agree with me. And my other personalities mostly are just me, only with different histories behind them.. so it's easy to agree with them. My favorite was Kierphe. He was my rugged man personality that I would use to pretend I'm tough when someone was picking on my girl persona. I still don't know how I was outted, but it was very embarrassing! I had to go through ALL the posts I made as Kierphe and delete them all. I wasn't able to scrub the forums as clean as I would like because some meanie heads quoted Ashliana responding to Kierphe! That was very hurtful and it really upset me. I don't want to talk about it anymore.. can we talk about another disorder I have instead?

Um, sure. Let's move back to your negative self body image. Why do you think you find yourself to be a grotesque pig?

[Parkbandit]

I’ll do it for 1000 Simucoins.

What's the current exchange rate?

[Wrathbringer]

You don't have to keep repeating yourself. And, uhh, you do realize the quote you made your signature (... lol), doesn't actually imply hypocrisy for the times when I do feel like getting into a back-and-forth.

I've known you've had reading comprehension problems for years, but this is an entirely new level of you falling on your face. Kudos on demonstrating the ability to keep surprising people after a decade, even if it's with the increasing depths of your stupidity. Clearly, you never went to college, but that's like third grade level reading comprehension.

Yikes.

lol @ your rep

[Ashliana]

I'm too stupid to understand that I'm proving Ashliana's point by demonstrating I can't respond to anything being said to me.

We know, PB.


lol @ your rep

You're retarded.

[audioserf]

That fringe retarded section of the Democrat Party is their majority though. The ones in power have to placate to these morons, even though they are just using them.


That's really not true, though. Permanently offended snowflakes don't represent the majority of Democrats any more than Alex Jones or someone like Milo (I refuse to look up how to spell his last name) represents the majority of Republicans. Modern social media has just made it incredibly easy for a very loud minority of the population to appear to speak for their entire side, which is one of the larger downsides of social media.

[Parkbandit]

There are multiple reasons I have to pretend to be something I'm not online. First of all, I can't do this in real life. If a guy I want to be with sees me, he basically runs away in horror. But online, I can be whoever I want to be. If I want to be a beautiful girl, I can! If I want to be a less ugly man, DONE! I just have one rule: NO SKYPE!

Yes, I can see how Skype could be a big issue. Please continue.

[Parkbandit]

That's really not true, though. Permanently offended snowflakes don't represent the majority of Democrats any more than Alex Jones or someone like Milo (I refuse to look up how to spell his last name) represents the majority of Republicans. Modern social media has just made it incredibly easy for a very loud minority of the population to appear to speak for their entire side, which is one of the larger downsides of social media.

I'm not so sure about that. I don't see many "normal" Democrats anymore. Their platform, candidates and direction all point to this... unless you are saying that this is all an effort to pull in that very loud minority. Their de-facto leader going into 2020 is probably going to be a 78 year old socialist. The party has this weird relationship with racist fucks like Louis Farrakhan and even elected Keith Ellison into power.

[Ashliana]

I can't keep track of which story I'm making up at any given moment, so I've just started to mishmash them together. It's kind of how my brain works.

Seek psychiatric care.


That's really not true, though. Permanently offended snowflakes don't represent the majority of Democrats any more than Alex Jones or someone like Milo (I refuse to look up how to spell his last name) represents the majority of Republicans. Modern social media has just made it incredibly easy for a very loud minority of the population to appear to speak for their entire side, which is one of the larger downsides of social media.

The distinction here is that the right nominated, and then elected, someone on the level of Alex Jones and Milo. The left never has. Your brand of shitty, reductionist false equivalency is precisely what's given the right cover to rationalize how dysfunctional their politics have become.

[audioserf]

Their platform, candidates and direction all point to this... unless you are saying that this is all an effort to pull in that very loud minority.

I was mainly talking about average citizens discussing politics, not the politicians themselves. It's really hard to have any discussions about issues anymore because it devolves reeeeeeealllly quick into a shouting match between far left and far right. As far as the party and platform, the sad thing to me (a dirty lib!) is it seems like the Democrats are a party without a platform at this point. There is no leader or singular voice, nobody popular enough on a national scale to get democrats out to the polls in two years. The HRC Project failed twice and they don't really stand for anything anymore. Bernie is old as hell and anything even approaching socialism is a very difficult sale in America. Running on a "We Aren't Trump" message is not going to cut it in 2020.

[audioserf]

The distinction here is that the right nominated, and then elected, someone on the level of Alex Jones and Milo. The left never has. Your brand of shitty, reductionist false equivalency is precisely what's given the right cover to rationalize how dysfunctional their politics have become.

I don't disagree with you. I have a lot of issues with the right and Trump. But I don't believe every last person who voted Trump injects Fox News into their veins. A lot of people wanted change - any change - and saw Trump as an avenue for it. I voted for Obama twice and I held my nose and voted for Hillary (who ran on a 'I'm Not Trump' platform and entirely ignored the states and demographics Trump dominated with, and then spent 18 months complaining that she lost, for some reason). Your immediate assumption that I'm a Republican is pretty funny, though.

[Ashliana]

I don't disagree with you. I have a lot of issues with the right and Trump. But I don't believe every last person who voted Trump injects Fox News into their veins. A lot of people wanted change - any change - and saw Trump as an avenue for it. I voted for Obama twice and I held my nose and voted for Hillary (who ran on a 'I'm Not Trump' platform and entirely ignored the states and demographics Trump dominated with, and then spent 18 months complaining that she lost, for some reason). Your immediate assumption that I'm a Republican is pretty funny, though.

By all means, please point out to where I "assumed you were a Republican." I didn't. I said your brand of false equivalency - of the crazy left and the crazy right - is what gives the right cover.

Leftists buy into it, too. Is there a crazy left? Sure. Is there a crazy right? You bet. Except the crazy left is far more marginalized than the crazy right, which has taken over Fox News, and in Trump, the GOP itself.

[Fortybox]

Less money as well. I will investigate this collusion for only $1,000.00 US dollars.

This is big because Whirlin was mod for both forums. So he was deliberately involved with trying to destroy the PC. New light into the matter, based on time4fun, shows that others were involved as well.

So I find it a little funny that someone is involved with collusion while criticizing the President about collusion...

[Parkbandit]

I was mainly talking about average citizens discussing politics, not the politicians themselves. It's really hard to have any discussions about issues anymore because it devolves reeeeeeealllly quick into a shouting match between far left and far right. As far as the party and platform, the sad thing to me (a dirty lib!) is it seems like the Democrats are a party without a platform at this point. There is no leader or singular voice, nobody popular enough on a national scale to get democrats out to the polls in two years. The HRC Project failed twice and they don't really stand for anything anymore. Bernie is old as hell and anything even approaching socialism is a very difficult sale in America. Running on a "We Aren't Trump" message is not going to cut it in 2020.

I don't disagree with any of this.. I just don't see too many "normal" Democrats anymore.

:shrug:

[Parkbandit]

This is big because Whirlin was mod for both forums. So he was deliberately involved with trying to destroy the PC. New light into the matter, based on time4fun, shows that others were involved as well.

So I find it a little funny that someone is involved with collusion while criticizing the President about collusion...

I wouldn't put too much faith in whatever time4fun says. She always has a story to attempt to make herself more important than she is.

[Parkbandit]

I really need to seek some professional mental care. I have difficulties keeping all my stories "straight".

LOL. I see what you did there.

And really, you can continue to use this forum as your online psychologist. I'll do my part in trying to figure out what is wrong with you... but that really is a gigantic job.

[Parkbandit]

OMG I POSTED 3 TIMES IN A ROW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW FOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holy shit, I must be upset.

[cwolff]

I was mainly talking about average citizens discussing politics, not the politicians themselves. It's really hard to have any discussions about issues anymore because it devolves reeeeeeealllly quick into a shouting match between far left and far right. As far as the party and platform, the sad thing to me (a dirty lib!) is it seems like the Democrats are a party without a platform at this point. There is no leader or singular voice, nobody popular enough on a national scale to get democrats out to the polls in two years. The HRC Project failed twice and they don't really stand for anything anymore. Bernie is old as hell and anything even approaching socialism is a very difficult sale in America. Running on a "We Aren't Trump" message is not going to cut it in 2020.

We're definitely going to have to figure this out. Biden vs. Bernie won't cut it and I'm hard pressed to think of one dem. that's got the charisma to win.

Not too worried about the platform yet. I'm hoping they will plant a flag for Medicare for all, min wage, unions and the dreamers. It feels like playing it safe right now. I get that its tough with the GOP controlled congress, WH and majority conservative supreme court. Its forcing a lot of defense, but I am ready to see some offense.

[audioserf]

By all means, please point out to where I "assumed you were a Republican." I didn't. I said your brand of false equivalency - of the crazy left and the crazy right - is what gives the right cover.

Leftists buy into it, too. Is there a crazy left? Sure. Is there a crazy right? You bet. Except the crazy left is far more marginalized than the crazy right, which has taken over Fox News, and in Trump, the GOP itself.

It read to me like you were assuming I was Republican. My mistake then!

The weird thing about the crazy left is that they haven't established a platform like Fox News has for the right. There's nobody of prominence on the left willing to be at all incendiary and passionate. I feel like the Democrats are in this constant contest to "out decorum" the Republicans and always be the adult in the room. The problem with that is you don't win elections by writing West Wing fan fiction. 2016 proved that the nice guy squad is never going to win a presidential election again. Maybe the left could use a little more crazy.

[audioserf]

We're definitely going to have to figure this out. Biden vs. Bernie won't cut it and I'm hard pressed to think of one dem. that's got the charisma to win.

Not too worried about the platform yet. I'm hoping they will plant a flag for Medicare for all, min wage, unions and the dreamers. It feels like playing it safe right now. I get that its tough with the GOP controlled congress, WH and majority conservative supreme court. Its forcing a lot of defense, but I am ready to see some offense.

Joe Biden is going to be #metoo'd into the shadow realm if he even hints at a run. There's no way a guy with that many lecherous photos with young women hasn't gotten handsy. I don't think he can run. He's damaged goods.

[Parkbandit]

It read to me like you were assuming I was Republican. My mistake then!

The weird thing about the crazy left is that they haven't established a platform like Fox News has for the right. There's nobody of prominence on the left willing to be at all incendiary and passionate. I feel like the Democrats are in this constant contest to "out decorum" the Republicans and always be the adult in the room. The problem with that is you don't win elections by writing West Wing fan fiction. 2016 proved that the nice guy squad is never going to win a presidential election again. Maybe the left could use a little more crazy.

Maybe the left could use a little LESS crazy.

Right now, they are spending all their time on figuring out a provable excuse for losing in 2016 instead of looking to 2020.

Hopefully, they keep looking back and thinking that everyone is just anti-Trump like they are.

[audioserf]

Maybe the less could use a little LESS crazy.

Right now, they are spending all their time on figuring out a provable excuse for losing in 2016 instead of looking to 2020.

Hopefully, they keep looking back and thinking that everyone is just anti-Trump like they are.

It's mainly old guard Dems looking to save face. The Clinton Wing of the party knows their time could be up and are desperately scrambling to deflect responsibility for running an awful campaign for a flawed candidate.

For what it's worth, I believe Russia exerted influence (primarily via manipulation of social media messaging), but I do not believe that influence was the reason Trump won.

[Wrathbringer]

By all means, please point out to where I "assumed you were a Republican." I didn't. I said your brand of false equivalency - of the crazy left and the crazy right - is what gives the right cover.

Leftists buy into it, too. Is there a crazy left? Sure. Is there a crazy right? You bet. Except the crazy left is far more marginalized than the crazy right, which has taken over Fox News, and in Trump, the GOP itself.

8960

[Wrathbringer]

I seriously think Trump will get a 2nd term if 1.) Mueller doesn’t pull through 2.) Economy doesn’t tank. I’ve spoken with a lot white people and although they don’t really jive on his values, there was always this subtle point they would throw in, “yeah but he’s white like me.” When the economy is doing OK and no major wars are going on shit always reverts back to identity politics without fail.

stfu&gtfo you retarded troll.

[Ashliana]

I really need to seek some professional mental care. I have difficulties keeping all my stories "straight".LOL. I see what you did there.

And really, you can continue to use this forum as your online psychologist. I'll do my part in trying to figure out what is wrong with you... but that really is a gigantic job.

You are the embodiment of cringe. Kudos, though, on working some bigotry in there. Who would've expected that of an septuagenarian reactionary?

[cwolff]

It read to me like you were assuming I was Republican. My mistake then!

The weird thing about the crazy left is that they haven't established a platform like Fox News has for the right. There's nobody of prominence on the left willing to be at all incendiary and passionate. I feel like the Democrats are in this constant contest to "out decorum" the Republicans and always be the adult in the room. The problem with that is you don't win elections by writing West Wing fan fiction. 2016 proved that the nice guy squad is never going to win a presidential election again. Maybe the left could use a little more crazy.


It's mainly old guard Dems looking to save face. The Clinton Wing of the party knows their time could be up and are desperately scrambling to deflect responsibility for running an awful campaign for a flawed candidate.

For what it's worth, I believe Russia exerted influence (primarily via manipulation of social media messaging), but I do not believe that influence was the reason Trump won.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/04/03/new-study-suggests-fake-news-might-have-won-donald-trump-election/LdkUmVEjOnQIkAgaOgkTXL/amp.html


The study from researchers at Ohio State University finds that fake news likely played a significant role in depressing Hillary Clinton’s support on Election Day 2016. The study, which has not been peer reviewed but which may be the first look at how fake news impacted voter choices, suggests that roughly 4 percent of Barack Obama’s 2012 supporters were dissuaded from voting for Clinton in 2016 by belief in fake news stories.

We're learning abkut this as we get further from the election, and the trend is that the information warfare so help him win. The trend is also that trump and his people had much more contact with Russians than they admit. There are missing links to absolutely proving corruption, but the only information we get is worse, not better for the "no collusion" theory.

Edit: I do like that the left has no alex Jones, fox news, rush Limbaugh types with any success. It gives me hope for the country.

[Ashliana]

I seriously think Trump will get a 2nd term if 1.) Mueller doesn’t pull through 2.) Economy doesn’t tank. I’ve spoken with a lot white people and although they don’t really jive on his values, there was always this subtle point they would throw in, “yeah but he’s white like me.” When the economy is doing OK and no major wars are going on shit always reverts back to identity politics without fail.stfu>fo you retarded troll.

Oh, Wrathbringer. What's that dripping from your lips? Oh! It's:

https://i.imgur.com/irBruYK.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

You are the embodiment of cringe. Kudos, though, on working some bigotry in there. Who would've expected that of an septuagenarian reactionary?

Get a life. Don't you have anything better to do than be trolled and butthurt all day? No one is arguing with you, everyone is laughing at you. Just to prove my point, you'll come back with some tl;dr post I won't even read before posting that you're retarded.

[Ashliana]

Get a life. Don't you have anything better to do than be trolled and butthurt all day? No one is arguing with you, everyone is laughing at you. Just to prove my point, you'll come back with some tl;dr post I won't even read before posting that you're retarded.

You have the least room to talk out of anyone here. You don't even participate in conversations. You're butthurt, non-stop, all day, virtually every time you post. You're retarded.

[Wrathbringer]

You have the least room to talk out of anyone here. You don't even participate in conversations. You're butthurt, non-stop, all day, virtually every time you post. You're retarded.

You're retarded. Apparently you also have no idea what butthurt means, even though you're the embodiment of it. But please, continue to be successfully trolled by normal people here on pc. Keep responding, it's great.

[Ashliana]

You're retarded. Apparently you also have no idea what butthurt means, even though you're the embodiment of it. But please, continue to be successfully trolled by normal people here on pc. Keep responding, it's great.

You're spewing butthurt as we speak. You just have zero self-awareness. Consult one of these:

https://i.imgur.com/Q4lU9YS.png

Or a psychiatrist.

[Wrathbringer]

You're spewing butthurt as we speak. You just have zero self-awareness. Consult one of these:

https://i.imgur.com/Q4lU9YS.png

Or a psychiatrist.

Yes, dance my little gay catfishing puppet!

[Ashliana]

Yes, dance my little gay catfishing puppet!

You're retarded. :)

[Wrathbringer]

You're retarded. :)

Yes! Dance!

[Fortybox]

I wouldn't put too much faith in whatever time4fun says. She always has a story to attempt to make herself more important than she is.

If anything, it shows character. Some people have wayyyyyu too much time on their hands.

You’re right though. She will randomly do one of two things on lnet when she is around: 1) say something about Trump to elicit argument or 2) post in-game text about one of her blunts/toys to get attention.

[Ashliana]

Yes! Dance!

https://i.imgur.com/ynXklXA.png

[cwolff]

If anything, it shows character. Some people have wayyyyyu too much time on their hands.

You’re right though. She will randomly do one of two things on lnet when she is around: 1) say something about Trump to elicit argument or 2) post in-game text about one of her blunts/toys to get attention.

None of you have shown any sign of outsmarting her. Have you noticed that she backs up her ideas with references.

Why don't you all try making sound logical arguments against what she says. I'm interested in seeing that and its noticeably absent from the right wingers here.

[Wrathbringer]

None of you have shown any sign of outsmarting her. Have you noticed that she backs up her ideas with references.

Why don't you all try making sound logical arguments against what she says. I'm interested in seeing that and its noticeably absent from the right wingers here.

Because most of us normal people don't waste time arguing with retards on the internet.

[Wrathbringer]

https://i.imgur.com/ynXklXA.png

hahahaha, yes, puppet, dance! That post was retarded, but I'm glad you're still being successfully trolled.

[Parkbandit]

You are the embodiment of cringe. Kudos, though, on working some bigotry in there. Who would've expected that of an septuagenarian reactionary?

All your hypocrisy in one quick post.

I know, I know.. ageism is ok bigotry in your picture book.. but ZOMG GAY IS TEH THIRD RAIL!

[Ashliana]

hahahaha, yes, puppet, dance! That post was retarded, but I'm glad you're still being successfully trolled.

Hint: "hurrr, you're being successfully trolled" isn't very good trolling. I'd say "Stay retarded, Wrathbringer," but, well.. Y'know.


us normal people

https://media1.giphy.com/media/mPFArc9iWXeoM/giphy.gif


All your hypocrisy in one quick post.

I know, I know.. ageism is ok bigotry in your picture book.. but ZOMG GAY IS TEH THIRD RAIL!

Except "ageism" isn't recognized as a thing except among the fringiest of the fringe left, whereas you have a decade-plus, extensive history of classic bigotry. Oh, wait! You actually thought you were making a convincing argument?

Even if I were a hypocrite (:rofl:), you'd still be a bigot, which doesn't change anything that I said. Kudos, though, on your simultaneous belief that "LAWL LIEBRUHLS ESS JAY DUBBLEYEWS ARE SNOWFLAKES" while trying to pull that with no sense of irony or shame.

[Wrathbringer]

Hint: "hurrr, you're being successfully trolled" isn't very good trolling. I'd say "Stay retarded, Wrathbringer," but, well.. Y'know.



https://media1.giphy.com/media/mPFArc9iWXeoM/giphy.gif



Except "ageism" isn't recognized as a thing except among the fringiest of the fringe left, whereas you have a decade-plus, extensive history of classic bigotry. Oh, wait! You actually thought you were making a convincing argument?

Even if I were a hypocrite (:rofl:), you'd still be a bigot, which doesn't change anything that I said. Kudos, though, on your simultaneous belief that "LAWL LIEBRUHLS ESS JAY DUBBLEYEWS ARE SNOWFLAKES" while trying to pull that with no sense of irony or shame.

tl;dr you're retarded

[Ashliana]

tl;dr you're retarded

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Wrathbringer]

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

You're retarded.

[Ashliana]

You're retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Wrathbringer]

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

You're retarded. Not everyone else, just you.

[Ashliana]

You're retarded. Not everyone else, just you.

Except that's your standard reply for every left-winger to whom you can't muster up a response. :)

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Wrathbringer]

Except that's your standard reply for every left-winger to whom you can't muster up a response. :)

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

You're retarded.

[Ashliana]

You're retarded.

Case in point: You couldn't come up with a response to your "b-b-b-but only SHIFT+1 YOU!..." nonsense being deflated. And, as always:

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Methais]

This is big because Whirlin was mod for both forums. So he was deliberately involved with trying to destroy the PC. New light into the matter, based on time4fun, shows that others were involved as well.

So I find it a little funny that someone is involved with collusion while criticizing the President about collusion...

Perhaps Whirlin was secretly trying to taint the safe space forum by tricking time4fun into only posting only there.

WAS WHIRLIN PLAYING 3D CHESS?!?!!!??!??!

[Wrathbringer]

Case in point: You couldn't come up with a response to your "b-b-b-but only SHIFT+1 YOU!..." nonsense being deflated. And, as always:

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

Keep posting, retard. I'm entertained.

[Gelston]

It is REALLY heating up now!

[Wrathbringer]

It is REALLY heating up now!

I KNOW THIS IS FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

[Methais]

I seriously think Trump will get a 2nd term if 1.) Mueller doesn’t pull through 2.) Economy doesn’t tank. I’ve spoken with a lot white people and although they don’t really jive on his values, there was always this subtle point they would throw in, “yeah but he’s white like me.” When the economy is doing OK and no major wars are going on shit always reverts back to identity politics without fail.

Stfu Necro.

[Methais]

If anything, it shows character. Some people have wayyyyyu too much time on their hands.

You’re right though. She will randomly do one of two things on lnet when she is around: 1) say something about Trump to elicit argument or 2) post in-game text about one of her blunts/toys to get attention.

Logged in the other day and saw her telling LNet how she could out-cardio everyone. Maybe she posts her all day walls of text while out jogging or some shit.

Not that I’d think that GS playerbase is a bunch of high cardio people or something, but I’m sure I had just missed the part about how she’s won a few Boston Marathons or something.

[Methais]

None of you have shown any sign of outsmarting her. Have you noticed that she backs up her ideas with references.

Why don't you all try making sound logical arguments against what she says. I'm interested in seeing that and its noticeably absent from the right wingers here.

Almost nothing she has ever predicted actually happens. The only one here who takes her seriously is you. And that’s because you’re just as retarded.

[Methais]

Except that's your standard reply for every left-winger to whom you can't muster up a response. :)

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

That’s because left wingers like the retards on here literally believe that the problem isn’t with them, it’s eveeyone else who has the problem.

I don’t know how many posts in a row this makes, but it’s probably enough to be accused of having a meltdown I would assume.

[Ashliana]

Keep posting, retard. I'm entertained.

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png


That’s because left wingers like the retards on here literally believe that the problem isn’t with them, it’s eveeyone else who has the problem.

I don’t know how many posts in a row this makes, but it’s probably enough to be accused of having a meltdown I would assume.

The right-wingers are the only ones, I'm afraid, who find themselves unable to engage on the issues. And context still matters, much to your dismay.

[Wrathbringer]

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png



The right-wingers are the only ones, I'm afraid, who find themselves unable to engage on the issues. And context still matters, much to your dismay.

And trump is still president much to your dismay.

[cwolff]

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png



The right-wingers are the only ones, I'm afraid, who find themselves unable to engage on the issues. And context still matters, much to your dismay.

They can't do it. They're forever being rebuffed by an argument to which they have no answer. Its not only here.

We aren't dealing with a coherent, logical philosophy. Ironically, they're "feelings" people and that drives their beliefs.

[Fortybox]

Perhaps Whirlin was secretly trying to taint the safe space forum by tricking time4fun into only posting only there.

WAS WHIRLIN PLAYING 3D CHESS?!?!!!??!??!

Yeah...doubt that. I still think a special council should be formed to look into these activities. Wyrom was involved...I just know it.

[Fortybox]

Logged in the other day and saw her telling LNet how she could out-cardio everyone. Maybe she posts her all day walls of text while out jogging or some shit.

Not that I’d think that GS playerbase is a bunch of high cardio people or something, but I’m sure I had just missed the part about how she’s won a few Boston Marathons or something.

Her home must be filled with a bunch of trophies and diplomas.

[Parkbandit]

They can't do it. They're forever being rebuffed by an argument to which they have no answer. Its not only here.

You are right: I have no answer to "NO REALLY, THIS IS IT! REAL EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION: TRUMP AND PUTIN BOTH HAVE THE LETTER U AND P IN THEIR NAMES AND THAT MEANS THE GIG IS "UP"!!!


We aren't dealing with a coherent, logical philosophy. Ironically, they're "feelings" people and that drives their beliefs.

Says the sad little snowflake that has literally been crying for 18 months straight.

Stop. You aren't even good at this.

[Parkbandit]

Logged in the other day and saw her telling LNet how she could out-cardio everyone. Maybe she posts her all day walls of text while out jogging or some shit.

Not that I’d think that GS playerbase is a bunch of high cardio people or something, but I’m sure I had just missed the part about how she’s won a few Boston Marathons or something.

LOL.

Holy shit... she really is amazing in her own head.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png



The right-wingers are the only ones, I'm afraid, who find themselves unable to engage on the issues. And context still matters, much to your dismay.

No one is going to waste their time trying to argue with unreasonable fringe idiots. It’s a much better use of time to just laugh and get some entertainment out of it. And even if anyone did take you seriously, what would the end result be for either side? A bunch of wasted time for everyone. Nobody is going to change anyone else’s mind on here about politics and it’s not like someone in power is going to stumble on a thread from a 30-year-old text game and be like, “Wow we really need to do something about Trump look what they’re saying! Ashliana’s posts really opened my eyes let’s impeach Trump tomorrow and make Hillary president!!!” and all your side has done for the past year and a half is piss and moan and cry about Hillary losing, and that anyone who voted for Trump, or even just didn’t vote for Hillary, is a racist bigot everythingphobe.

But tell us again though why we should take you seriously instead of laughing at your ongoing butthurt fueled daily meltdowns.
That’s literally your party’s platform right now.

[Wrathbringer]

No one is going to waste their time trying to argue with unreasonable fringe idiots. It’s a much better use of time to just laugh and get some entertainment out of it. And even if anyone did take you seriously, what would the end result be for either side? A bunch of wasted time for everyone. Nobody is going to change anyone else’s mind on here about politics and it’s not like someone in power is going to stumble on a thread from a 30-year-old text game and be like, “Wow we really need to do something about Trump look what they’re saying! Ashliana’s posts really opened my eyes let’s impeach Trump tomorrow and make Hillary president!!!” and all your side has done for the past year and a half is piss and moan and cry about Hillary losing, and that anyone who voted for Trump, or even just didn’t vote for Hillary, is a racist bigot everythingphobe.

But tell us again though why we should take you seriously instead of laughing at your ongoing butthurt fueled daily meltdowns.
That’s literally your party’s platform right now.

This is correct.

[Ashliana]

No one is going to waste their time trying to argue with unreasonable fringe idiots. It’s a much better use of time to just laugh and get some entertainment out of it.

And even if anyone did take you seriously, what would the end result be for either side? A bunch of wasted time for everyone. Nobody is going to change anyone else’s mind on here about politics and it’s not like someone in power is going to stumble on a thread from a 30-year-old text game and be like, “Wow we really need to do something about Trump look what they’re saying! Ashliana’s posts really opened my eyes let’s impeach Trump tomorrow and make Hillary president!!!” and all your side has done for the past year and a half is piss and moan and cry about Hillary losing, and that anyone who voted for Trump, or even just didn’t vote for Hillary, is a racist bigot everythingphobe.

You, PB, etc, have all spent years -- more than a decade -- arguing with people. Whether or not you think they're "unreasonable fringe idiots" -- in your demented estimation -- is besides the point. You've already chosen to do it. But like you, I've derived entertainment from seeing you desperately try to rationalize yourself, only to fall flat and throw tantrums when we inevitably come to the conclusion of any these exchanges: slinging antipathy at each other.


But tell us again though why we should take you seriously instead of laughing at your ongoing butthurt fueled daily meltdowns.

"Tell us again?" Erm, I don't recall saying "you should take me seriously." I said: Methais can't back up his positions. And you can't. And demonstrating that you can't, and PB can't, and Wrathbringer can't -- is the "laughing and entertainment."

[Fortybox]

You, PB, etc, have all spent years -- more than a decade -- arguing with people. Whether or not you think they're "unreasonable fringe idiots" -- in your demented estimation -- is besides the point. You've already chosen to do it. But like you, I've derived entertainment from seeing you desperately try to rationalize yourself, only to fall flat and throw tantrums when we inevitably come to the conclusion of any these exchanges: slinging antipathy at each other.



"Tell us again?" Erm, I don't recall saying "you should take me seriously." I said: Methais can't back up his positions. And you can't. And demonstrating that you can't, and PB can't, and Wrathbringer can't -- is the "laughing and entertainment."

Are you Flimbo?

[Wrathbringer]

You, PB, etc, have all spent years -- more than a decade -- arguing with people. Whether or not you think they're "unreasonable fringe idiots" -- in your demented estimation -- is besides the point. You've already chosen to do it. But like you, I've derived entertainment from seeing you desperately try to rationalize yourself, only to fall flat and throw tantrums when we inevitably come to the conclusion of any these exchanges: slinging antipathy at each other.



"Tell us again?" Erm, I don't recall saying "you should take me seriously." I said: Methais can't back up his positions. And you can't. And demonstrating that you can't, and PB can't, and Wrathbringer can't -- is the "laughing and entertainment."

You're retarded.

[Ashliana]

Are you Flimbo?

I don't know what that is, so I'm going to guess no.


You're retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/YtkY319.png

[Neveragain]

But tell us again though why we should take you seriously instead of laughing at your ongoing butthurt fueled daily meltdowns.
That’s literally your party’s platform right now.

This is true.

[time4fun]

This is correct.

No, we do still try. In hopes that one day you sad little men may actually learn something.

[Neveragain]

No, we do still try. In hopes that one day you sad little men may actually learn something.

The only thing we are learning is that there are certain breeds of women that should have never been allowed out of the kitchen.

[time4fun]

Almost nothing she has ever predicted actually happens. The only one here who takes her seriously is you. And that’s because you’re just as retarded.

That's a great point, but there are a few minor exceptions:

1) Clinton will not be prosecuted due to the mens rea issues- which was the bulk of the reasoning offered by Comey

2) There would be a blue wave as backlash to Trump in 2018 (Democrats have outperformed partisan lean by about 14 points on average, and as of Feb around 40 seats have flipped to Dem (http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2018/feb/15/corey-lewandowski/have-democrats-gained-50-seats-formerly-held-repub/) in special elections since 2017. Also Dems have been up between 5-15 on the Generic Ballot for about a year now)

3) The warning I gave in 2016 that Trump's Russia connections were not benign, and that they were problematically extensive (Oook he's literally under investigation for them)

4) That Trump IS under investigation (which you poor little toasters repeatedly denied)

5) That Russia DID meddle in the election to help Trump win (which you poor little toasters also denied)

6) That Comey's firing was going to warrant an obstruction investigation (Oh look, according to a Republican appointee of a Republican President approved by a Republican Senate- it did!)

7) That parts of the Dossier were, in fact, correct (Oh look, they are)

8) That there was enough evidence to warrant a serious collusion investigation (Once again- according to a Republican appointee of a Republican President approved by a Republican Senate- it did!)


Meanwhile you silly little stooges keep shrieking "BUT THERE'S NO INDICTMENT FOR COLLUSION- SO YOU'RE WRONG!". Which is a very reasonable statement as long as you ignore the fact that I've been saying for some time now that there's a lot of reason to suspect that a sitting President won't be indicted, and the fact that the Mueller investigation- which is heating up VERY rapidly and which just confirmed that Trump is under criminal investigation- isn't nearly finished yet.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is- you should really keep shrieking, insulting, and gif'ing.

Because that's literally all any of you have.

Mahalo sweetie.

[Neveragain]

.

Because that's literally all any of you have.

Mahalo sweetie.

And you still don't have an impeachment or my $15 GOA for that matter.

https://media.tenor.com/images/3eb4baa6d3347941ffa6b9ee1ec2bd68/tenor.gif

[time4fun]

Tonight was- as usual- another full news night for the Russia investigation:

1) New Court filings tonight (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/politics/robert-mueller-manafort-search/index.html) from the Mueller team show that Manafort was served with 7 new warrants in March. One of the warrants was for 5 AT&T phone numbers, and, according to filings is related to "ongoing investigations that are not the subject of either of the current prosecutions involving Manafort,". Four of them were redacted to protect sources and information about ongoing investigations. Keep in mind that this week we found out that Rosenstein had explicitly approved Manafort as a target in the Russia/Trump/Collusion part of the investigation. It's quite possible that we're starting to see the inklings of Manafort indictments in that direction. Or they could be unrelated but a part of the continuing work to pressure Manafort into flipping.

2) Meanwhile, McClatchy reports tonight that (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article208090764.html)

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigators this week questioned an associate of the Trump Organization who was involved in overseas deals with President Donald Trump’s company in recent years.

Armed with subpoenas compelling electronic records and sworn testimony, Mueller’s team showed up unannounced at the home of the business associate, who was a party to multiple transactions connected to Trump’s effort to expand his brand abroad, according to persons familiar with the proceedings.

Reportedly the investigators were VERY interested in transactions involving Michael Cohen. This follows reports in March that Mueller had subpoenaed the Trump Organization, and that Mueller was particularly interested in information on the Moscow Deal- which Cohen was very involved in.

It seems very likely that the latest subpoenas were based- at least in part- on the information they acquired from the Trump Org work in March.

McClatchy also reminds us:


[Cohen's] partner in that effort [to secure a Trump Tower deal in Moscow in 2016] was Russian émigré and former Trump Organization associate Felix Sater, whose involvement in the pursuit of a Moscow-area hotel became public last year at a time when now-President Trump was insisting that he had no business interests in Russia.

[time4fun]

And you still don't have an impeachment or my $15 GOA for that matter.

https://media.tenor.com/images/3eb4baa6d3347941ffa6b9ee1ec2bd68/tenor.gif

This is literally the political equivalent of sitting in the third inning of a baseball game and saying that anyone who said the opposing team was going to win is an idiot because they haven't won yet.

Hopefully I don't need to explain to you how embarrassing it is to have that as your one and only argument.

I also never said that he would be impeached- you boys created that caricature to comfort yourselves. I said that he clearly colluded with Russia.

[Neveragain]

This is literally the political equivalent of sitting in the third inning of a baseball game and saying that anyone who said the opposing team was going to win is an idiot because they haven't won yet.

I also never said that he would be impeached. I said that he clearly colluded with Russia.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WateryIlliterateAmericanavocet-max-1mb.gif

[Tisket]

This is literally the political equivalent of sitting in the third inning of a baseball game and saying that anyone who said the opposing team was going to win is an idiot because they haven't won yet.



Clearly you have not spent time in the stands of a typical baseball game.

Or maybe that's just the drunken louts that typically surround our seats.

Hmm.

[time4fun]

I find myself wondering about the significance of the reports that Mueller is purportedly planning on writing: one on the obstruction case and one on the collusion case.

There are some legitimate outstanding questions here:

Why TWO reports at different times? DoJ guidelines (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.8) only require one report:

At the conclusion of the Special Counsel's work, he or she shall provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel.

The guidelines don't call for Mueller's team to submit separate reports for both the obstruction investigation and the collusion investigation. Likewise, the report need only go to the AG (in this case, Deputy AG). They aren't automatically made public- Rosenstein would have to make that decision (though that is in his rights by statute (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.9#a_1)). Now obviously there are very good reasons to make the findings public- regardless of what they are.


It does seem like Mueller has come to the conclusion that he cannot indict a sitting President- otherwise there's arguably no point in early reports. The Special Counsel statute is actually oddly ambiguous about this. According to the statute, Mueller is bound by all DoJ guidelines, statutes, decisions, etc- which means he's bound by the current DoJ opinion that sitting Presidents are immune to criminal indictment. The statute does, however, allow (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.7) for the AG (Rosenstein in this case) to waive this requirement in extraordinary situations. But it's unclear if Rosenstein would actually have the authority to change this particular guideline (and also that he or Mueller would even want to).

With that in mind, there seem to be two likely possibilities for Mueller's reasoning behind issuing two reports:

1) He believes Trump is innocent of obstruction AND collusion: Since this is an election year he wants to take that piece of the equation out of voters' minds so his investigation isn't impacting their decisions.
This is reasonable, but it also seems very risky to exonerate the President on obstruction before Mueller has finished the Collusion investigation. The fact that he is planning on issuing two reports at different dates- AND that they're still issuing subpoenas and questioning witnesses in an ever-widening pattern- suggests there's quite a bit more work to do on the collusion probe. And it would be extremely confusing to the electorate to give a report declaring Trump innocent in obstruction and then risk having to give a second report later saying he's guilty of something much more serious- especially in an election year. Also, giving him a clean report would risk Trump and his allies feeling emboldened to shut the investigation down before he finished the collusion piece.

2) He believes Trump is guilty of obstruction AND likely collusion: Not only is he certain there's a strong case to make in the obstruction side of things, but he's genuinely concerned that Trump will become increasingly bold and impulsive in his actions and will shut the investigation down.
He's concerned because he has strong evidence that the Trump campaign (and Trump himself) colluded with the Russian government to throw the election, and if Trump is allowed to shut the investigation down- he doesn't trust that Congress will hold him accountable (or ever get ahold of the evidence they would need). Issuing a report laying out a serious pattern of obstruction of justice by POTUS would make it impossible for Trump to shut the collusion investigation down- fully insulating Mueller and his team from political pressure and allowing them to finish the most serious part of the investigation. And candidly, if Mueller didn't strongly suspect Trump of having colluded with the Russians, it's unlikely he would be mounting this extraordinary pressure on Manafort right now.

This feels less risky than the first option. If Trump is guilty of obstruction, it wouldn't be jarring to the electorate to later determine that suspicions aside- Trump isn't guilty in any criminal sense of colluding with Russia. And it's the safest route for the investigation if he believes there is serious wrongdoing.

[time4fun]

Clearly you have not spent time in the stands of a typical baseball game.

Or maybe that's just the drunken louts that typically surround our seats.

Hmm.

Ugh my boyfriend drags me to games fairly regularly actually.

And no, it's not just the ones around your seats =/

[Gelston]

Clearly you have not spent time in the stands of a typical baseball game.

Or maybe that's just the drunken louts that typically surround our seats.

Hmm.

You people in your cheap seats. Suites ftw.

[Tisket]

You people in your cheap seats. Suites ftw.

We only rent a suite when attending Silvertip hockey games.

[Gelston]

We only rent a suite when attending Silvertip hockey games.

They are actually pretty great at Ranger Ballpark. $160-180 but it opens like 2 hours prior to the game and you get free food.

[Parkbandit]

I find myself wondering about the significance of the reports that Mueller is purportedly planning on writing: one on the obstruction case and one on the collusion case.

There are some legitimate outstanding questions here:

Why TWO reports at different times? DoJ guidelines (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.8) only require one report:


The guidelines don't call for Mueller's team to submit separate reports for both the obstruction investigation and the collusion investigation. Likewise, the report need only go to the AG (in this case, Deputy AG). They aren't automatically made public- Rosenstein would have to make that decision (though that is in his rights by statute (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.9#a_1)). Now obviously there are very good reasons to make the findings public- regardless of what they are.


It does seem like Mueller has come to the conclusion that he cannot indict a sitting President- otherwise there's arguably no point in early reports. The Special Counsel statute is actually oddly ambiguous about this. According to the statute, Mueller is bound by all DoJ guidelines, statutes, decisions, etc- which means he's bound by the current DoJ opinion that sitting Presidents are immune to criminal indictment. The statute does, however, allow (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.7) for the AG (Rosenstein in this case) to waive this requirement in extraordinary situations. But it's unclear if Rosenstein would actually have the authority to change this particular guideline (and also that he or Mueller would even want to).

With that in mind, there seem to be two likely possibilities for Mueller's reasoning behind issuing two reports:

1) He believes Trump is innocent of obstruction AND collusion: Since this is an election year he wants to take that piece of the equation out of voters' minds so his investigation isn't impacting their decisions.
This is reasonable, but it also seems very risky to exonerate the President on obstruction before Mueller has finished the Collusion investigation. The fact that he is planning on issuing two reports at different dates- AND that they're still issuing subpoenas and questioning witnesses in an ever-widening pattern- suggests there's quite a bit more work to do on the collusion probe. And it would be extremely confusing to the electorate to give a report declaring Trump innocent in obstruction and then risk having to give a second report later saying he's guilty of something much more serious- especially in an election year. Also, giving him a clean report would risk Trump and his allies feeling emboldened to shut the investigation down before he finished the collusion piece.

2) He believes Trump is guilty of obstruction AND likely collusion: Not only is he certain there's a strong case to make in the obstruction side of things, but he's genuinely concerned that Trump will become increasingly bold and impulsive in his actions and will shut the investigation down.
He's concerned because he has strong evidence that the Trump campaign (and Trump himself) colluded with the Russian government to throw the election, and if Trump is allowed to shut the investigation down- he doesn't trust that Congress will hold him accountable (or ever get ahold of the evidence they would need). Issuing a report laying out a serious pattern of obstruction of justice by POTUS would make it impossible for Trump to shut the collusion investigation down- fully insulating Mueller and his team from political pressure and allowing them to finish the most serious part of the investigation. And candidly, if Mueller didn't strongly suspect Trump of having colluded with the Russians, it's unlikely he would be mounting this extraordinary pressure on Manafort right now.

This feels less risky than the first option. If Trump is guilty of obstruction, it wouldn't be jarring to the electorate to later determine that suspicions aside- Trump isn't guilty in any criminal sense of colluding with Russia. And it's the safest route for the investigation if he believes there is serious wrongdoing.

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[Parkbandit]

Ugh my boyfriend drags me to games fairly regularly actually.

And no, it's not just the ones around your seats =/

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[Methais]

"Tell us again?" Erm, I don't recall saying "you should take me seriously." I said: Methais can't back up his positions. And you can't. And demonstrating that you can't, and PB can't, and Wrathbringer can't -- is the "laughing and entertainment."

That's just your response to being told no one takes you seriously. You might as well just say "JUST ARGUE WITH ME GUYS COME ON YOU HAVE TOOOOOO!!!!!!" You seem to have a problem with not being taken seriously. Tell us why we're wrong for that.

Or another way to phrase your response would be:

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[Methais]

I don't know what that is, so I'm going to guess no.



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That just what someone would say if they were Flimbo.

Confirmed Ashliana is Flimbo. And cwolff.

[Gelston]

Confirmed, Methais is Estlid.

[Methais]

That's a great point, but there are a few minor exceptions:

1) Clinton will not be prosecuted due to the mens rea issues- which was the bulk of the reasoning offered by Comey

2) There would be a blue wave as backlash to Trump in 2018 (Democrats have outperformed partisan lean by about 14 points on average, and as of Feb around 40 seats have flipped to Dem (http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2018/feb/15/corey-lewandowski/have-democrats-gained-50-seats-formerly-held-repub/) in special elections since 2017. Also Dems have been up between 5-15 on the Generic Ballot for about a year now)

3) The warning I gave in 2016 that Trump's Russia connections were not benign, and that they were problematically extensive (Oook he's literally under investigation for them)

4) That Trump IS under investigation (which you poor little toasters repeatedly denied)

5) That Russia DID meddle in the election to help Trump win (which you poor little toasters also denied)

6) That Comey's firing was going to warrant an obstruction investigation (Oh look, according to a Republican appointee of a Republican President approved by a Republican Senate- it did!)

7) That parts of the Dossier were, in fact, correct (Oh look, they are)

8) That there was enough evidence to warrant a serious collusion investigation (Once again- according to a Republican appointee of a Republican President approved by a Republican Senate- it did!)


Meanwhile you silly little stooges keep shrieking "BUT THERE'S NO INDICTMENT FOR COLLUSION- SO YOU'RE WRONG!". Which is a very reasonable statement as long as you ignore the fact that I've been saying for some time now that there's a lot of reason to suspect that a sitting President won't be indicted, and the fact that the Mueller investigation- which is heating up VERY rapidly and which just confirmed that Trump is under criminal investigation- isn't nearly finished yet.

I suppose what I'm trying to say is- you should really keep shrieking, insulting, and gif'ing.

Because that's literally all any of you have.



OMG THIS IS REALLY IT TRUMP'S GOING DOWN FOR REAL EVEN THOUGH HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN WHEN I FIRST SAID IT IN LIKE AUGUST OR SOME SHIT BUT IGNORE THE OTHER 487302 TIMES I SAID IT WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE THIS TIME IT'S FOR REALZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mahalo sweetie.

No means no. What part don't you understand? #MeToo

[Methais]

Confirmed, Methais is Estlid.

DON'T BLAME THAT NERF BULLSHIT ON ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111

[Androidpk]

Well-connected Lebanese-American businessman George Nader, a key witness given limited immunity by Mueller, has been interviewed seven times by prosecutors on a wide range of subjects. He told investigators that he set up a meeting in the Seychelles between Prince and Russian sovereign wealth fund CEO Kirill Dmitriev, mere days before Trump was inaugurated, sources familiar with the investigation said this week.

Hrm, that's not what Prince told Congress, he said the meeting was purely by chance.

[Wrathbringer]

Well-connected Lebanese-American businessman George Nader, a key witness given limited immunity by Mueller, has been interviewed seven times by prosecutors on a wide range of subjects. He told investigators that he set up a meeting in the Seychelles between Prince and Russian sovereign wealth fund CEO Kirill Dmitriev, mere days before Trump was inaugurated, sources familiar with the investigation said this week.

Hrm, that's not what Prince told Congress, he said the meeting was purely by chance.

OMGOMGOMG THIS IS FINALLY REALLY REALLY IT GUYS!!!111!! IT'S HEATING UP NOW FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!11

[Methais]

OMGOMGOMG THIS IS FINALLY REALLY REALLY IT GUYS!!!111!! IT'S HEATING UP NOW FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!!11

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

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[Wrathbringer]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

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:lol:

[Ashliana]

That's just your response to being told no one takes you seriously. You might as well just say "JUST ARGUE WITH ME GUYS COME ON YOU HAVE TOOOOOO!!!!!!" You seem to have a problem with not being taken seriously. Tell us why we're wrong for that.

Do you have anything else besides "Please defend this position you haven't taken"? No? Oh. How disappointing.

Or another way to phrase your response would be:

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The accurate way to describe your post is:

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/straw-man-300x233.jpg


That just what someone would say if they were Flimbo.

Confirmed Ashliana is Flimbo. And cwolff.

lol

How many people have you guys accused me of being at this point? Again, don't know what "Flimbo" is, since there's no user on the PC with that name.

[Wrathbringer]

It doesn't know who Flimbo is LOL

eta: edited for gender

[Methais]

How many people have you guys accused me of being at this point? Again, don't know what "Flimbo" is, since there's no user on the PC with that name.


Even more things that Flimbo would be saying to protect his true Flimbo identity.

Reported for being Flimbo, enjoy your ban.

Also reported for failing at quoting in your previous post:



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Enjoy your double ban noobsocks.

[cwolff]

Bill Kristol on twitter today:


Trump is now doing things he's always wanted to do, ignoring or overruling his advisors: For example, slapping tariffs on China, getting out of Syria, and sending the military to the border. Here's another thing Trump's long wanted to do: Fire Mueller.

[Wrathbringer]

Bill Kristol on twitter today:

No one cares.

eta: except butthurt liberals.

[Parkbandit]

Bill Kristol on twitter today:

Is that Bill Kristol, of the Never Trumper movement that is as upset as people like you are for the past 18 months?

Shocking that he would suddenly be critical of President Trump.. since he's been sooooo supportive of him in the past........

[time4fun]

Bill Kristol on twitter today:

I suspect that's why Mueller told Trump he wasn't a target, and that he was just one interview away from closing down half of the investigation (at least, as it pertains to Trump).

And, as I mentioned last night, I suspect there is a reason why Mueller is trying to get the obstruction report out quickly.

[time4fun]

Anyone else notice that the stronger the arguments and evidence get against Trump, the more rapidly the right wingers post non-replies in the form of jeering and gif'ing?

It's the strangest thing.

[Androidpk]

I suspect that's why Mueller told Trump he wasn't a target, and that he was just one interview away from closing down half of the investigation (at least, as it pertains to Trump).

And, as I mentioned last night, I suspect there is a reason why Mueller is trying to get the obstruction report out quickly.

Season 1 is going to end with the report on Obstruction of Justice, just as I predicted. Looking forward to finding out the answer to this poll from last year:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?109111-Comey-fired&highlight=

[Parkbandit]

Anyone else notice that the stronger the arguments and evidence get against Trump, the more rapidly the right wingers post non-replies in the form of jeering and gif'ing?

It's the strangest thing.

You haven't had a single strong argument or evidence about Russian collusion since it was fabricated on 11/8/16... otherwise known as the day you've never been more frightened and upset......

[cwolff]

Anyone else notice that the stronger the arguments and evidence get against Trump, the more rapidly the right wingers post non-replies in the form of jeering and gif'ing?

It's the strangest thing.

They have no answers. If trump is found to be a crook, they will say, "I never liked him anyway, I only post to entertain myself with libtard tears."


Season 1 is going to end with the report on Obstruction of Justice, just as I predicted. Looking forward to finding out the answer to this poll from last year:

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?109111-Comey-fired&highlight=

Oh ya, that was when they defended firing Comey because he doesn't have anything to do with investigations. There are some real gems in that thread.

[cwolff]

All I know is DC is going to come to a complete standstill when Mueller reveals his findings, the taxis won't be operating that day. Gonna be AWESOME!

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The world will watch. People are going to freak out either way. But I don't believe he'll release them. I had understood he'd report to congress but I read the other day that he'll deliver his findings to Rosenstein. We may only learn about it through leaks

[Androidpk]

The world will watch. People are going to freak out either way. But I don't believe he'll release them. I had understood he'd report to congress but I read the other day that he'll deliver his findings to Rosenstein. We may only learn about it through leaks

Mueller reports to Rosenstein and it's up to him what to do with the report.

[time4fun]

Mueller reports to Rosenstein and it's up to him what to do with the report.

Given that Mueller's team has already told Trump that they're going to release a public report- it would appear as though Rosenstein knows exactly where this is going and has already approved.

[time4fun]

You haven't had a single strong argument or evidence about Rusrsian collusion since it was fabricated on 11/8/16... otherwise known as the day you've never been more frightened and upset......

My dear, it's precisely because I have strong arguments and evidence that I upset you so much.

[Androidpk]

Given that Mueller's team has already told Trump that they're going to release a public report- it would appear as though Rosenstein knows exactly where this is going and has already approved.

Yeah, I have no doubts about Rosenstein. He's been doing the right thing ever since he appointed Mueller.

[Fortybox]

My dear, it's precisely because I have strong arguments and evidence that I upset you so much.

Give me a break. All you do is regurgitate arguments from major liberal outlets. There is no proof of any collusion.

[Wrathbringer]

Give me a break. All you do is regurgitate arguments from major liberal outlets. There is no proof of any collusion.

This is correct.

[Neveragain]

My dear, it's precisely because I have strong arguments and evidence that I upset you so much.

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[Wrathbringer]

My dear, it's precisely because I'm a raging tard that I upset you so much.

Fixed

[Parkbandit]

My dear, it's precisely because I have strong arguments and evidence that I upset you so much.

I'm not sure why you can't understand a very simple concept: NOTHING you do, say, pretend to be, etc... "upsets" me in the least.

At all.

You are a joke. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You have bought into this conspiracy theory that Trump colluded with Russia and THAT is why your girl lost.

And when it doesn't come to fruition to your satisfaction, you will blame it on sexism or Deep State or whatever else the Democrat Party tells you to regurgitate.

And the only thing that will eclipse the current meltdown you and your ignorant ilk have been having for the past 18 months is when Trump is re-elected to a 2nd term.

And yes, I will be voting for Trump JUST for that specific reason.

Just remember: Most people have control of their emotions far better than you. They don't get "upset" or "frightened" or "scared" like you have stated you have been since 11/8/16... so please, stop projecting and seriously, get on some medication.

[Fortybox]

I'm not sure why you can't understand a very simple concept: NOTHING you do, say, pretend to be, etc... "upsets" me in the least.

At all.

You are a joke. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You have bought into this conspiracy theory that Trump colluded with Russia and THAT is why your girl lost.

And when it doesn't come to fruition to your satisfaction, you will blame it on sexism or Deep State or whatever else the Democrat Party tells you to regurgitate.

And the only thing that will eclipse the current meltdown you and your ignorant ilk have been having for the past 18 months is when Trump is re-elected to a 2nd term.

And yes, I will be voting for Trump JUST for that specific reason.

But Hillary won the popular vote.

[Parkbandit]

Give me a break. All you do is regurgitate arguments from major liberal outlets. There is no proof of any collusion.

What about her "evidence" of Trump not saying mean things about Putin.. isn't that proof enough of collusion?????

[Androidpk]

I'm not sure why you can't understand a very simple concept: NOTHING you do, say, pretend to be, etc... "upsets" me in the least.

At all.

You are a joke. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You have bought into this conspiracy theory that Trump colluded with Russia and THAT is why your girl lost.

And when it doesn't come to fruition to your satisfaction, you will blame it on sexism or Deep State or whatever else the Democrat Party tells you to regurgitate.

And the only thing that will eclipse the current meltdown you and your ignorant ilk have been having for the past 18 months is when Trump is re-elected to a 2nd term.

And yes, I will be voting for Trump JUST for that specific reason.

Just remember: Most people have control of their emotions far better than you. They don't get "upset" or "frightened" or "scared" like you have stated you have been since 11/8/16... so please, stop projecting and seriously, get on some medication.


Likewise if Trump WERE to be indicted and maybe even impeached.. you'd be blaming it on the deep state and the lying liberals.

[Fortybox]

What about her "evidence" of Trump not saying mean things about Putin.. isn't that proof enough of collusion?????

About as good as her allegations that I stalked her on this forum because I, wait for it, posted replies to her posts.

[Fortybox]

Likewise if Trump WERE to be indicted and maybe even impeached.. you'd be blaming it on the deep state and the lying liberals.

That assumes collusion actually happened, which has not been proven. Please try again.

[Ashliana]

I'm not sure why you can't understand a very simple concept: NOTHING you do, say, pretend to be, etc... "upsets" me in the least.

At all.

You are a joke. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You have bought into this conspiracy theory that Trump colluded with Russia and THAT is why your girl lost.

And when it doesn't come to fruition to your satisfaction, you will blame it on sexism or Deep State or whatever else the Democrat Party tells you to regurgitate.

And the only thing that will eclipse the current meltdown you and your ignorant ilk have been having for the past 18 months is when Trump is re-elected to a 2nd term.

And yes, I will be voting for Trump JUST for that specific reason.

Just remember: Most people have control of their emotions far better than you. They don't get "upset" or "frightened" or "scared" like you have stated you have been since 11/8/16... so please, stop projecting and seriously, get on some medication.

:rofl:

Seems level-headed and not at all unhinged. Have you forgotten how you were exposed in the rep thread? Obsessed, furiously hostile, in a sexual way, no less. .... Yeah. Sorry, PB. You're not in a credible position to say who is or isn't upset, and who needs medication. You badly need psychiatric care.

[Androidpk]

That assumes collusion actually happened, which has not been proven. Please try again.

You keep on saying collusion. Collusion is not the only thing being investigated here, as has been stated since day 1.

[Wrathbringer]

You keep on saying collusion. Collusion is not the only thing being investigated here, as has been stated since day 1.

good thing, since they're not finding any. I'd hate to think this was a colossal waste of time.........

[Wrathbringer]

I'm retarded and never tire of getting owned constantly.

ftfy

[Ashliana]

I'm too stupid to have an actual opinion on anything, and certainly couldn't defend my position if I had one, so I'll just insult people instead.

Really? All those hours listening to Rush for nothing?

[Parkbandit]

You keep on saying collusion. Collusion is not the only thing being investigated here, as has been stated since day 1.

What specifically was the special council's job to investigate when it started out?