Russia Investigation Heating Up

[SHAFT]

I'm just waiting for someone to explain what I should be "shaken" about. Why is expecting an answer so crazy?

Yeah, bad Trump for not being more mean to Putin. Bad Trump! Okay, now what?

Try accepting that the guy you voted for is a Russian asset. There has to be a reason why trump refuses to say a negative thing about Russia/Putin, hold him accountable for the cyber crimes, and why trump stood in defense of putin rather than defending the country he swore an oath to.

I mean, Russia only has the GDP close to Texas... not like we need them for trade or they’re some robust economy.

Trump is owned by putin. Russians have been using trump and his family to launder money for years and trump got his money to restart his business from Russia.

Remember during the campaign when he said he had nothing to do with Russia? The guy had a deal for a trump tower is Moscow DURING the campaign. That’s not a secret.

[SHAFT]

I honestly can't tell if you're that obtuse or if you're just trolling.

PB, wrath, and neveragain are trolls.

I think Tgo is a decent guy, but he’s really caught up with his love for trump. For whatever reason.

He’s an awesome guy when it comes to GS.

[Neveragain]

He’s an awesome guy when it comes to GS.

I'm a bad guy when it comes to GS?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/3eb4856a51a75680723ae011037da1cd/tenor.gif?itemid=11199720

[Tgo01]

Try accepting that the guy you voted for is a Russian asset.

And there it is.

Trump is just a Russian spy. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real!

[SHAFT]

And there it is.

Trump is just a Russian spy. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real!

Not a secret that Russians have been using trump and his businesses to launder money for years.

Not a secret that trump got the money to kickstart his business in the 2000’s from Russia, when no American banks would touch him.

Not a secret that the dossier (which is more proven than disproven at this point) says putin has dirt on trump.

You gotta ask yourself why trump, on the world stage today, defended putin over the US today. You gotta wonder, Tgo.

[peam]

You gotta ask yourself why trump, on the world stage today, defended putin over the US today. You gotta wonder, Tgo.

The arrogant delusion that he could have never made such a mistake prevents this from happening.

[SHAFT]

And there it is.

Trump is just a Russian spy. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real!

Also, I’m not saying he’s a spy. I’m saying he’s OWNED by putin.

He attacks and criticizes everyone but putin. Why?

Russia has nothing to offer the US. Nada nada limonada.

[cwolff]

Sasse is hitting on something that the right needs to reckon with. This a trump apology tour. Can't any of you at least criticize that?




“This is bizarre and flat-out wrong,” Sasse said of Trump’s comments in a statement released afterward. “The United States is not to blame. America wants a good relationship with the Russian people but Vladimir Putin and his thugs are responsible for Soviet-style aggression. When the president plays these moral equivalence games, he gives Putin a propaganda win he desperately needs.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ben-sasse-russia-putin-propaganda-win-trump-presser/

[Tgo01]

PB, wrath, and neveragain are trolls.

I think Tgo is a decent guy, but he’s really caught up with his love for trump. For whatever reason.

He’s an awesome guy when it comes to GS.

I didn't even have high hopes for Trump and he certainly wasn't my top pick for the Republican OR Democrat candidate by a long shot. But I think he's done a lot of conservative like shit that I agree with since he's been in office. I don't agree with everything he does but I find myself defending him a lot not necessarily because I agree with him, but because a lot of Democrats just take things way too far.

Just like Melania wearing that dumb jacket. Democrats could have scored an easy win: "Does she not understand the optics? Talk about no class." Instead they were talking about how she doesn't like brown people, how the white supremacists have a supporter in the White House, how Trump and his administration are all bigoted assholes. All because Melania wore a jacket? Give me a break.

One thing Democrats have done is almost push me to the point of being pro life for the first time in my adult life. Democrats used to make a good argument about abortion; it's a medical procedure that should be between a woman and her doctor. Now you have people like Michelle Wolf saying "God bless abortions" and some Democrats talking about abortions all the way up until the minute before the baby is born and Democrats in general talking about a fetus like it's a virus and a parasite. It's disgusting. Anti-gun nuts say guns have more rights than women? A freaking bird egg literally does have more rights than a human fetus.

[Tgo01]

Also, I’m not saying he’s a spy. I’m saying he’s OWNED by putin.

He attacks and criticizes everyone but putin. Why?

Russia has nothing to offer the US. Nada nada limonada.

A friendly relation with Russia has nothing to offer the US? Come on. The only other country that can destroy the entire planet 100 times over and it can't possibly be a good thing if we got along better with them?

Also he just recently whined at Germany for buying so much energy from Russia. How is that not also a criticism of Russia? If he was owned by Russia shouldn't he be encouraging more countries to buy shit from Russia?

[SHAFT]

Dude I’m not reading that book.

I gave you a compliment Tgo...

I’m not going into vortex today.

[Androidpk]

PB, wrath, and neveragain are trolls.

I think Tgo is a decent guy, but he’s really caught up with his love for trump. For whatever reason.

He’s an awesome guy when it comes to GS.

Tgo has been one of the biggest trolls in the politics folder for years now.

[Tgo01]

Dude I’m not reading that book.

I gave you a compliment Tgo...

I’m not going into vortex today.

Three short paragraphs is a book? How do you manage to play GS?

[SHAFT]

Three short paragraphs is a book? How do you manage to play GS?

If it were anyone else maybe.

Also, you look for keywords in GS. No one reads everything.

[~Rocktar~]

Former Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Michael Steele said President Trump sounded like an “asset” standing next to his “handler” during a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday.

Nice how you post a quote of some news organization or another and can't be bothered to cite it. My lawyer is going to subpoena Kraner to get your IP info so I can turn you over to whoever you are plagiarizing so they can sue you. For fucks sake shitbag, even I can manage to cite my quotes.

[cwolff]

Nice how you post a quote of some news organization or another and can't be bothered to cite it. My lawyer is going to subpoena Kraner to get your IP info so I can turn you over to whoever you are plagiarizing so they can sue you. For fucks sake shitbag, even I can manage to cite my quotes.

Try this link retard. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=michael+steele+trump+asset

It's really not that difficult

[Androidpk]

Nice how you post a quote of some news organization or another and can't be bothered to cite it. My lawyer is going to subpoena Kraner to get your IP info so I can turn you over to whoever you are plagiarizing so they can sue you. For fucks sake shitbag, even I can manage to cite my quotes.

No one cares that you cite Infowars.

[SHAFT]

Tgo has been one of the biggest trolls in the politics folder for years now.

Yeah you’re probably right.

He’s a nice guy in GS, so guess I was hoping he was just a gullible rube.

[Neveragain]

No one cares that you cite Infowars.

Should Kennedy have met with Khrushchev?

[BigWorm]

Should Kennedy have met with Khrushchev?

Apparently you and Tgo01 think he should have believed Khrushchev when he said there were no missiles in Cuba despite tons of evidence of their existence from our intelligence services.

[~Rocktar~]

Try this link retard. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=michael+steele+trump+asset

It's really not that difficult

Hey, you are the giant pussy that whines like a motherfucker when people don't cite sources or cite ones you don't like. I figured I would give you back some of your own shit. Amazing how asshurt you are over it. Just confirms that you are a giant baby who likes to dish it out but can't take it. Please, take this opportunity to fuck right off.

[cwolff]

Hey, you are the giant pussy that whines like a motherfucker when people don't cite sources or cite ones you don't like. I figured I would give you back some of your own shit. Amazing how asshurt you are over it. Just confirms that you are a giant baby who likes to dish it out but can't take it. Please, take this opportunity to fuck right off.

No, I don't bitch about sources and links. You're thinking of one of the right wing retards on here who pull that bullshit to distract from uncomfortable information.

[Tgo01]

Apparently you and Tgo01 think he should have believed Khrushchev when he said there were no missiles in Cuba despite tons of evidence of their existence from our intelligence services.

Because that's totally the same thing. This Russia hacking shit in an attempt to get Trump impeached is totally the same thing as Russia putting missiles in Cuba. Why you so dumb?

[Neveragain]

Apparently you and Tgo01 think he should have believed Khrushchev when he said there were no missiles in Cuba despite tons of evidence of their existence from our intelligence services.

Did Kennedy come right out and say to Khruschev at their summit "I don't believe you." in front of the world press? Or did they act with some form of decorum until returning home?

The biggest thing I took away from today's summit is that Russia and the US agreed to have our intelligence officials work with Russian officials on this investigation. That's about as much as one could honestly expect from this summit and when I mean honest, I mean being honest with our own actions as well as Russias actions. If we can't do that, then we leave another century of a fucked up world for future generations.

We can't have it both ways, where we are expected to uphold NATO and yet not have other NATO members pay their share and then have them buy their natural resources from Russia.

[cwolff]

https://youtu.be/4Fp1TioaLcg

FWIW, here is a video of trump picking out Butina to ask a question so he can spout off his feelings about Russia. This is how Seth Abramson describes the video: So here's Trump pretending to pick Butina from a crowd randomly in July '15, and pretending not to know her, as he avails himself of her Kremlin-planted question to publicly lay out (with him knowing Putin is watching) his Russia policy *on sanctions*.

[SHAFT]

https://youtu.be/4Fp1TioaLcg

FWIW, here is a video of trump picking out Butina to ask a question so he can spout off his feelings about Russia. This is how Seth Abramson describes the video: So here's Trump pretending to pick Butina from a crowd randomly in July '15, and pretending not to know her, as he avails himself of her Kremlin-planted question to publicly lay out (with him knowing Putin is watching) his Russia policy *on sanctions*.

How do you know it's Butina?

[time4fun]

Yeah you’re probably right.

He’s a nice guy in GS, so guess I was hoping he was just a gullible rube.

Honestly, he's just not that bright. And he's threatened by any information that calls into question his worldview- it drives him to lash out aggressively. The combination of those two facts is what brings you the great PC troll Tgo.

[Archigeek]

I realize business Insider is just fake news but...

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-putin-press-conference-republicans-respond-2018-7?utm_content=bufferbe38e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-bi

[Androidpk]

For those of you seriously interested in following all of this I highly recommend @SethAbramson and @emptywheel on Twitter.

[Androidpk]

How do you know it's Butina?

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/maria-butina-donald-trump-video-2015/

[peam]

For those of you seriously interested in following all of this I highly recommend @SethAbramson and @emptywheel on Twitter.

Added those two.

I started following @timkmak @noahshachtman @natashabertrand @Isikoff @DavidCornDC @anneapplebaum @kpoulsen @attackerman @michaeldweiss @dataeditor over the past week or two too. Most of them are pretty solid.

It's really crazy how versatile Twitter can be.

[Wrathbringer]

Honestly, he's just not that bright. And he's threatened by any information that calls into question his worldview- it drives him to lash out aggressively. The combination of those two facts is what brings you the great PC troll Tgo.

He's loads smarter than your retarded ass.

[Neveragain]

He's loads smarter than your retarded ass.

They care soo... Much that they knowingly voted for the Clinton cartel.

Let the declassifications begin. We'll be seeing just how trustworthy our security agencies are. I mean they are so trustworthy that we invaded Iraq over weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

[Methais]

lol @ left wing talk radio when Trump's own hand-picked Director of National Intelligence reaffirmed that the Russians meddled in the 2016 election and continue "ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy". Only a huge pussy would get that info from the intelligence community and then stand with Putin to say that we should be friends.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/1888-statement-from-dni-coats

The 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.


Even Meek Romney had harsh words for Trump.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiQdH-wV4AApg3-.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zWgsE_f8yR8/UIbS6sdOrpI/AAAAAAAAEPw/VTMGbKBcfm8/s1600/DebateMeme20.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

The 1980s called, they want their foreign policy back.

hahahahahahahaha i remember obummer saying that and all the liberal puppets parroting it for weeks.

[Methais]

You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it.

Not sure why you'd create a false statement by me and put it in your signature. Seems kinda creepy...

Let's remember to use this logic whenever you're crying about Trump did XYZ without providing a video of Trump doing it.

This shall be the new PC universal standard, including the Merchant Feedback thread. All transactions must be accompanied by video evidence.

Shaft is so smart, coming up with this rule all by himself. I'm so proud of him.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xTiTnk7cRvop40CYLu/giphy.gif

[Methais]

Maybe it's time you all stopped whining because Trump won.

Speaking of whining...


Remember when all of the PC trolls were just swearing up and down that Russia didn't meddle in our elections?


Remember when the left thought Hillary was going to win so Obama said this before the election? There's probably a 99.999999% chance that you echoed this in a post somewhere on here at the time too, right up until Hillary lost.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7F7eRM1oiU

Also, keep avoiding this one, because you don't actually care about minorities unless it serves your party's purpose.

But let's try again. What are your thoughts on this racist tweet? No thoughts? Oh, looks like you're the racist then.

https://i.imgur.com/lP5w6Pm.jpg

[Methais]

Our President, on foreign soil today, took the side of a country that attacked us.

I know trolling libs and dems is a lot of fun, but damn. That's crazy.

Today had nothing to do with Obama, Hillary, emails, Democrats, Stormy Daniels... this was all about butthurt.

This is correct.

[Tgo01]

Honestly, he's just not that bright. And he's threatened by any information that calls into question his worldview- it drives him to lash out aggressively. The combination of those two facts is what brings you the great PC troll Tgo.

I mostly "lash out" at racists such as yourself and cwolff, and otherwise terrible people, such as Androidpk. Why you three horrible people think it's just because of your politics is a wonder.

[Methais]

No, I don't bitch about sources and links. You're thinking of one of the right wing retards on here who pull that bullshit to distract from uncomfortable information.

Actually he's thinking of your pal time4fun.

Watch now as cwolff does a 180.

[Methais]

Honestly, he's just not that bright. And he's threatened by any information that calls into question his worldview- it drives him to lash out aggressively. The combination of those two facts is what brings you the great PC troll Tgo.

Sounds exactly like the reason why you refuse to call out this blatant racism because it calls into question your worldview that only straight white cis male non-democrats can be racist:

https://i.imgur.com/lP5w6Pm.jpg

[Tgo01]

Remember when the left thought Hillary was going to win so Obama said this before the election? There's probably a 99.999999% chance that you echoed this in a post somewhere on here at the time too, right up until Hillary lost.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7F7eRM1oiU

It's hilarious how Democrats knew what Russia was doing for years but did and said nothing because they knew for sure Hillary would win and they were worried about the optics of accusing Russia of hacking and trying to influence the election. The moment Trump won though suddenly Russia's "meddling" was the biggest threat to our nation and everyone had to parrot back how Putin handed the election to Trump.

And what's funny is Democrats won't admit this is exactly how it played out. Just look at the number of lemmings on here telling Republicans they have to be "shaken" by Trump holding a press conference but yet to this day won't admit the simple fact that Obama did next to nothing about Russia hacking WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT because he thought for sure Hillary would win and didn't want to make her victory look bad.

[Androidpk]

Gaslight
Obstruct
Pedophilia

[Methais]

Gaslight
Obstruct
PK

Fixed.

[Parkbandit]

They're so sensitive these days.

It's like you forgot your emotional meltdowns over the years here. Just go re-read the election night thread.

The only one that is so sensitive on these boards, is people like you.


I understand. It must be tough to realize how incredibly wrong you were about the current President and his relationship with Russia.

So.. still no collusion? Weird.

[Tgo01]

It's like you forgot your emotional meltdowns over the years here. Just go re-read the election night thread.

I still remember her telling conservatives weeks before the election that we are just mad because a black man was "in charge" of us and we're still mad because a woman is about to be "in charge" of us. Then she cried for about 2 weeks straight about how unfair it was that Trump won and she was worried for her illegal alien brother for the first time, thus proving that our immigration laws are laughable and need changing.

[Astray]

The tags are amazing for this thread.

[Parkbandit]

Dan Coats was appointed by Trump as his hand-picked Director of National Intelligence. He released a statement today reaffirming that Russian meddled in the 2016 election and continues "their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy".

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/1888-statement-from-dni-coats

Are you trying to dismiss intelligence vetted by a top Trump appointee as a deep state plot?

I'm not dismissing anything or anyone. But I can understand how President Trump feels, given this bullshit claim that his administration colluded to win the election. That's been under "investigation" now for how long with zero proof?

And quite honestly, President Trump could turn into the biggest scumbag in the world.. but he would STILL be a better pick for President than Hillary.

[Parkbandit]

PB, wrath, and neveragain are trolls.

I think Tgo is a decent guy, but he’s really caught up with his love for trump. For whatever reason.

He’s an awesome guy when it comes to GS.

You are so sensitive.

Maybe too much soy in your diet?

[Tgo01]

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

[Parkbandit]

You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it.

Not sure why you'd create a false statement by me and put it in your signature. Seems kinda creepy...

You really are retarded.

[Parkbandit]

I still remember her telling conservatives weeks before the election that we are just mad because a black man was "in charge" of us and we're still mad because a woman is about to be "in charge" of us. Then she cried for about 2 weeks straight about how unfair it was that Trump won and she was worried for her illegal alien brother for the first time, thus proving that our immigration laws are laughable and need changing.

Only 2 weeks? You are being most kind to this mental basketcase.

[Methais]

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

Putin used watched The Simpsons too. That's how he found out Trump was going to be President.

The left will probably try using this for real.

[Methais]

I still remember her telling conservatives weeks before the election that we are just mad because a black man was "in charge" of us and we're still mad because a woman is about to be "in charge" of us. Then she cried for about 2 weeks straight about how unfair it was that Trump won and she was worried for her illegal alien brother for the first time, thus proving that our immigration laws are laughable and need changing.

Sorry, unless you have a video of her typing this and clicking the post button, then it didn't happen.

Let this be a reminder that the SHAFT rule is in effect from now on.

[Tgo01]

Sorry, unless you have a video of her typing this and clicking the post button, then it didn't happen.

Let this be a reminder that the SHAFT rule is in effect from now on.

Curses!

[Neveragain]

Shaken is the furthest from how I feel about the current situation, I'm actually delighted. The FBI lawyer chic sounds like she's cooperating and has stated that the context of the texts should be taken as they sounded.

They will be asking the president to declassify information for the hearrings and you can garen god damn tee Trump will do just that.

[cwolff]

I wasn’t watching the Donald Trump–Vladimir Putin press conference from Helsinki. But when my phone started burning up with messages, I knew something was going on. I quickly discovered that Putin had mentioned me by name. No journalist had asked about me. He just brought me up out of the blue.

Putin offered to allow American investigators to interview the 12 Russian intelligence agents just indicted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller in exchange for allowing Russians to have access to me and those close to me. This is no idle threat. For the last ten years, I’ve been trying to avoid getting killed by Putin’s regime, and there already exists a trail of dead bodies connected to its desire to see me dead. Amazingly, Trump stood next to him, appearing to nod approvingly. He even later said that he considered it “an incredible offer.”

I'm Bill Browder. Here's the Biggest Mistake Putin Made When Trying to Get Access to Me Through Trump (http://time.com/5340545/bill-browder-vladimir-putin-magnitsky-act-donald-trump/)


This guy is a hero and the reason for the Don Jr. trump tower meeting along with other Russian meetings. Putin killed his attorney, Sergei Magnitsky, and Browder has dedicated his life and resources attempting to right this wrong. Putin is trying to get a hold of him and shut him up. I'm surprised he's lived this long but it would be dicey for Putin to assassinate him. His profile is too high and he's documented a history of Putin trying to get him.


That deal that trump said was a great offer by Putin involves us giving Browder to Russia. How do you like that shit? And to help sell the deal Putin used the same old Clinton fake news bullshit that plays so well here in the USA.



Here’s Putin’s remarks from a joint press conference, which came after he spoke about allowing the U.S. to interview Russians accused of interfering with the election, arguing that the U.S. should allow Russia to do the same:
...
For instance, we can bring up the Mr. Browder in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia. They never paid any taxes, neither in Russia nor in the United States, and yet the money escaped the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent huge amount of money, $400 million as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Well, that’s the personal case. It might have been legal, the contribution itself, but the way the money was earned was illegal.


http://time.com/5340167/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-bill-browder/

[Tgo01]

I'm Bill Browder. Here's the Biggest Mistake Putin Made When Trying to Get Access to Me Through Trump (http://time.com/5340545/bill-browder-vladimir-putin-magnitsky-act-donald-trump/)


This guy is a hero and the reason for the Don Jr. trump tower meeting along with other Russian meetings. Putin killed his attorney, Sergei Magnitsky, and Browder has dedicated his life and resources attempting to right this wrong. Putin is trying to get a hold of him and shut him up. I'm surprised he's lived this long but it would be dicey for Putin to assassinate him. His profile is too high and he's documented a history of Putin trying to get him.


That deal that trump said was a great offer by Putin involves us giving Browder to Russia. How do you like that shit? And to help sell the deal Putin used the same old Clinton fake news bullshit that plays so well here in the USA.





http://time.com/5340167/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-bill-browder/

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

[Astray]

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

Sweaty orange cock.

[Tgo01]

Sweaty orange cock.

Homophobe.

So Trump is the power top in this relationship?

[Astray]

Homophobe.

So Trump is the power top in this relationship?

Yes.

Yes.

[more cwolffs]

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

Why do you hate your country?

It's a good thing cwolff willed me into existence so that I can help keep people like you in check when he's not at his keyboard sticking up for minorities and freedom and loving America. Good for cwolff, bad for people like you who think you know things.

[cwolff]

The former chief spokesman for President Trump's personal legal team said early Tuesday that Trump should apologize for his controversial performance at his joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying he equated the U.S. to the "regime of a murderous kleptocrat."

Mark Corallo weighed in on Trump’s press conference in a retweet of a post agreeing with former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), who said Trump must “clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin.”
“Clarify?” Corallo asked in response. “How about apologizing for equating in any way the United States of America and the regime of a murderous kleptocrat?”


All those flag waving, Dixie Chick hating patriots who have been so critical about Obama's "apology tour" need to get a grip on this. Trump went across the world to stand beside Putin and agree with him against our country and the men and women who work everyday in our security services. It's not metaphorical. He literally did this.


And the question is still out there: Why are we giving Russia such props? They're a little shit economy tied to the price per barrel of oil and run by a dictator with his merry band of oligarchs. They rank 30 something as a trade partner with the USA.

Why does trump insist on propping them up as equals on the world stage the way he did with North Korea yet he has no problem shitting on anyone in NATO or the EU? There is something obviously wrong here and even the die hard trump supporters are or should be asking themselves some serious questions.

[Methais]

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37263367_10157744795259478_3980218894114619392_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=32820d8d8146da4a8b04d3a821d0f8f4&oe=5BE9A450

[cwolff]

Anyone watching trump speak? I'm seeing some updates on twitter. It sounds like he made a bigger shit show out of this than it was already.


Trump, reading from piece of paper, said he has "full faith and support" for U.S. intelligence agencies. "I accept our Intelligence Community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place." He THEN seems to have ad-libbed: "It could be other people also"

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1019295068119760896

[Tgo01]

Anyone watching trump speak? I'm seeing some updates on twitter. It sounds like he made a bigger shit show out of this than it was already.



https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1019295068119760896

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

[Methais]

Anyone watching trump speak? I'm seeing some updates on twitter. It sounds like he made a bigger shit show out of this than it was already.



https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1019295068119760896

He's right. Democrats are also meddling in our elections.

[Methais]

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

You'll never get an answer because they know what will happen if they answer any of those questions honestly.

They know they're full of shit, they'll just never admit to it.

[cwolff]

NEWS: Rep. ROHRABACHER tells me he could be the lawmaker referenced in the Butina indicment.

Also, he says indictment is "stupid" and that it's the "deep state" trying to poison the U.S.-Russia relationship.

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1019299413624344578

No surprise here.

[cwolff]

Rep. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) is renewing his call for President Trump to release his tax returns after the president's controversial press conference with Russian leader Vladimir Putin this week.
Sanford told The Washington Post’s Robert Costa on Tuesday that he doesn’t know if Putin has any compromising information on Trump, but said he wants more information about Trump’s finances in light of the president's comments while standing alongside Putin the previous day.

This is good news, but it won't go anywhere. It'd take an act of congress to get trump to release his taxes and congress doesn't have it in them to cross trump.


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/397471-gop-lawmaker-renews-call-for-trump-to-release-tax-returns-following-putin

[Androidpk]

This is good news, but it won't go anywhere. It'd take an act of congress to get trump to release his taxes and congress doesn't have it in them to cross trump.


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/397471-gop-lawmaker-renews-call-for-trump-to-release-tax-returns-following-putin

Meh, Mueller already has Trump's tax returns.

[Parkbandit]

This is good news, but it won't go anywhere. It'd take an act of congress to get trump to release his taxes and congress doesn't have it in them to cross trump.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/397471-gop-lawmaker-renews-call-for-trump-to-release-tax-returns-following-putin

You mean.. it would take a law to force all candidates to release their tax returns instead of just a tradition?

That's the way it should be.

Also, any law that might be passed in the future would already grandfather President Trump.. given that he's already President.

I have no problem with making it a law.

[Parkbandit]

Meh, Mueller already has Trump's tax returns.

So does Rachel Maddow...........................

Also, how are those subpoenas coming along? Tough to find a lawyer to do this pro-bono I imagine.

Good luck.

[SHAFT]

You'll never get an answer because they know what will happen if they answer any of those questions honestly.

They know they're full of shit, they'll just never admit to it.

Off the top of my head...

1. Trump hasn't done a thing to protect the US from more cyber attacks occurring this November for the mid terms. By not acknowledging the cyber attacks and working towards preventing it again in the future he's helping Russia.

2. Trump has bashed and verbally attacked NATO and the EU. It's not a secret this is what Putin wants. He'd love to see the EU and NATO dismantled.

Trump basically spouts Russian talking points when it comes to this.

3. Sanctions. There were talks last year that Trump wanted to undo the sanctions put forth by Obama, and Trump waited until the last minute this past winter to enact the new sanctions. He waited months, which benefited Russia.

4. State Department. Trump has gutted the State Department and slashed their budget.

5. Money laundering through NRA (and likely through Trump properties).

6. Let's be real; Trump is an easy mark. Putin said yesterday he wanted Trump to win.

Clinton would've slammed Russia for the cyber attacks. I also believe she would've made the prevention of further attacks a top priority.

We also don't know what was said in the closed door meeting yesterday, so we don't know if Trump gave any other concessions.

[Tgo01]

1. Trump hasn't done a thing to protect the US from more cyber attacks occurring this November for the mid terms. By not acknowledging the cyber attacks and working towards preventing it again in the future he's helping Russia.

We have the same intelligence agencies and safeguards in place we have always had.


12. Trump has bashed and verbally attacked NATO and the EU. It's not a secret this is what Putin wants. He'd love to see the EU and NATO dismantled.

Trump demanded they pay more money for their military so NATO can carry out their mission of pushing back against Russian aggression. How does this work in Russia's favor?

I would respond to more but you said you have problem reading more than 3 paragraphs of mine at a time.

[SHAFT]

lol

[cwolff]

We have the same intelligence agencies and safeguards in place we have always had.



Trump demanded they pay more money for their military so NATO can carry out their mission of pushing back against Russian aggression. How does this work in Russia's favor?

I would respond to more but you said you have problem reading more than 3 paragraphs of mine at a time.

Damn girl. You desperate? Got a crush on me or just like typing my name? I bet your text books are all combinations of our names inside of hearts. T + C = 4ever and shit like that. Get a grip TG.

[Tgo01]

Damn girl. You desperate? Got a crush on me or just like typing my name? I bet your text books are all combinations of our names inside of hearts. T + C = 4ever and shit like that. Get a grip TG.

Oh so you can read my posts.

I just want one Democrat, or one Never Trumper, JUST ONE, to tell me exactly what Putin has gotten from Trump?

The going theory is Trump is owned by Putin so you would think owning the president of the US would come with some huge benefits for Russia. But what are the benefits? What, Trump asked NATO, the organization that was created specifically to protect member nations against Russian aggression, that he wanted all members to spend more money on their military?

Trump questioned why Germany was buying so much energy from Russia?

What exactly has Putin received in return for owning Trump?

Speaking of Putin supposedly owning Trump, how did that come about and why? Trump, a multi billionaire enjoying fame and wealth well before Putin got into politics, was somehow bought by Putin...how and why again? Putin knew Trump would someday run for president and win so he made him a puppet decades ago?

Can anyone answer these simple questions? Anyone? Or is everyone going to just continue to tell me how "shaken" I should be because Trump gave a press conference?

[Seizer]

https://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/brotherfromthesameplanet3.jpg

Brezhnev's Secret Pledge to 'Do Everything We Can' to Reelect Gerald Ford
As the Cold War raged in 1975, a Russian leader promised his support for a president’s reelection bid.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/07/ford-brezhnev-note/534798/

See the rage is in the wrong place blame Gerald Ford. It's all his fault!

[Archigeek]

We have the same intelligence agencies and safeguards in place we have always had.



Trump demanded they pay more money for their military so NATO can carry out their mission of pushing back against Russian aggression. How does this work in Russia's favor?

I would respond to more but you said you have problem reading more than 3 paragraphs of mine at a time.

I don't think "We have the same safeguards we've always had" is much of an excuse for not doing anything. Let's just be honest here. Trump doesn't want to do anything to improve safeguards for our election system because he feels it would be an admission that his election wasn't quite legitimate. He'd rather risk free and fair elections than suffer a bruised ego.

[Wrathbringer]

I don't think "We have the same safeguards we've always had" is much of an excuse for not doing anything. Let's just be honest here. Trump doesn't want to do anything to improve safeguards for our election system because he feels it would be an admission that his election wasn't quite legitimate. He'd rather risk free and fair elections than suffer a bruised ego.

What would you have him do?

[time4fun]

I don't think "We have the same safeguards we've always had" is much of an excuse for not doing anything. Let's just be honest here. Trump doesn't want to do anything to improve safeguards for our election system because he feels it would be an admission that his election wasn't quite legitimate. He'd rather risk free and fair elections than suffer a bruised ego.

That's actually the more generous take on his behavior.

The less generous take is that he's not interested in safeguarding the elections because our attackers only interfere to help him out. Kind of like the Trump administration does everything it can to help Russia out on the Sanctions issue.

It's almost like they're looking out for each other.

It's almost like there's no such thing as coincidence in politics.

[Wrathbringer]

That's actually the more generous take on his behavior.

The less generous take is that he's not interested in safeguarding the elections because our attackers only interfere to help him out. Kind of like the Trump administration does everything it can to help Russia out on the Sanctions issue.

It's almost like they're looking out for each other.

It's almost like there's no such thing as coincidence in politics.

you're so retarded. And soooooo butthurt.

[Neveragain]

I don't think "We have the same safeguards we've always had" is much of an excuse for not doing anything. Let's just be honest here. Trump doesn't want to do anything to improve safeguards for our election system because he feels it would be an admission that his election wasn't quite legitimate. He'd rather risk free and fair elections than suffer a bruised ego.

What is Obama's excuse when he lied to the nation about election tampering? He was president when this happened, he knew about it at least a month before he lied about it on national television. He dithered just like he did with red lines, this happened under a Democrat administration.

[Tgo01]

I don't think "We have the same safeguards we've always had" is much of an excuse for not doing anything.

Our current measures apparently caught all of this hacking and intrusion and led to so many indictments, we should be applauding our current safeguards.

The question I posed was: what is Putin getting from Trump? If Trump was an asset of Russia he should be doing everything in his power to make Russia's job of hacking us easier, right? So the best you have is Trump isn't doing more than Obama to stop Russia's shenanigans? Not sure that's the message you want to put forth.

[Neveragain]

That's actually the more generous take on his behavior.

The less generous take is that he's not interested in safeguarding the elections because our attackers only interfere to help him out. Kind of like the Trump administration does everything it can to help Russia out on the Sanctions issue.

It's almost like they're looking out for each other.

It's almost like there's no such thing as coincidence in politics.

You lost, Take Obama's advice and get over it.

[Tgo01]

Kind of like the Trump administration does everything it can to help Russia out on the Sanctions issue.

Which sanctions has Trump lifted on Russia? Go ahead and take your time to answer, I know it hurts to use too much of your brain at once.

[time4fun]

So much anger from the nut job brigade.

Must have struck a nerve.

[Tgo01]

So much anger from the nut job brigade.

Must have struck a nerve.

You must have missed my question so I'll post it again.


Which sanctions has Trump lifted on Russia? Go ahead and take your time to answer, I know it hurts to use too much of your brain at once.

[Methais]

Which sanctions has Trump lifted on Russia? Go ahead and take your time to answer, I know it hurts to use too much of your brain at once.


So much anger from the nut job brigade.

Must have struck a nerve.

I see. How interesting.

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[RichardCranium]

So much anger from the nut job brigade.

Must have struck a nerve.

You have to admit that the complete 180 in the narrative from "The 80's are calling and they want their foreign policy back" to "Russia is America's greatest geopolitical threat and Putin owns Trump" in a few short years is both startling and, in my opinion, hilarious.

[Androidpk]

You have to admit that the complete 180 in the narrative from "The 80's are calling and they want their foreign policy back" to "Russia is America's greatest geopolitical threat and Putin owns Trump" in a few short years is both startling and, in my opinion, hilarious.

I mean, you could always look at what Russia has done in those few short years. The invasion of Ukraine and Crimea. The shooting down of flight MH17. The use of of chemical weapons to assassinate people in the UK.

[SHAFT]

I mean, you could always look at what Russia has done in those few short years. The invasion of Ukraine and Crimea. The shooting down of flight MH17. The use of of chemical weapons to assassinate people in the UK.

The hacking of American systems in 2016... well, depending on those who you believe.

[time4fun]

You have to admit that the complete 180 in the narrative from "The 80's are calling and they want their foreign policy back" to "Russia is America's greatest geopolitical threat and Putin owns Trump" in a few short years is both startling and, in my opinion, hilarious.

They hacked our election infrastructure, our energy infrastructure, and our defense infrastructure. They recently hacked over half a million routers as a part of a planned coordinated attack. They infiltrated our political system, hacked into the servers of a specific political party and candidate they felt wouldn't be in their best interest and waged a concerted social media attack on the American electoral system that affected hundreds of millions of people in the US.

And that's just some of the stuff they've done lately.

If that doesn't qualify them as serious threats to our country- what exactly does?

[time4fun]

Oh, and they recently showed a video of them dropping a nuclear bomb on Florida.

[Tgo01]

They hacked our election infrastructure, our energy infrastructure, and our defense infrastructure. They recently hacked over half a million routers as a part of a planned coordinated attack. They infiltrated our political system, hacked into the servers of a specific political party and candidate they felt wouldn't be in their best interest and waged a concerted social media attack on the American electoral system that affected hundreds of millions of people in the US.

And that's just some of the stuff they've done lately.

If that doesn't qualify them as serious threats to our country- what exactly does?

They've been doing shit like this to the US for years. The point is why did you all mock Romney and cheer Obama on as some sort of genius when he said Russia wasn't our greatest geopolitical threat and then went on to specifically tell Putin that he could be "more flexible" with Russia after he wins his next election? Why did Obama then say the US elections can't be hacked and Trump was losing fair and square? Why did Democrats only care what Russia was doing after Trump won? That last question is obvious so no need to answer that one.

[RichardCranium]

They hacked our election infrastructure, our energy infrastructure, and our defense infrastructure. They recently hacked over half a million routers as a part of a planned coordinated attack. They infiltrated our political system, hacked into the servers of a specific political party and candidate they felt wouldn't be in their best interest and waged a concerted social media attack on the American electoral system that affected hundreds of millions of people in the US.

And that's just some of the stuff they've done lately.

If that doesn't qualify them as serious threats to our country- what exactly does?

Crazy how that all happened under the radar until Trump won.

[SHAFT]

Crazy how that all happened under the radar until Trump won.

You know they shot down a plane and invaded another country before trump, right?

[Wrathbringer]

I see. How interesting.

https://media.giphy.com/media/a5viI92PAF89q/giphy.gif

What you don't know is, she said that because I just left her an especially nasty shart rep.

[drauz]

You know they shot down a plane and invaded another country before trump, right?

I wonder if the fact that we did nothing emboldened them to push it even farther and start really fucking with our elections. I'm sure they messed with them before but I doubt on the same scale as last election.

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/red-lines.gif?w=527&h=395

[Androidpk]

I wonder if the fact that we did nothing emboldened them to push it even farther and start really fucking with our elections. I'm sure they messed with them before but I doubt on the same scale as last election.

Did nothing in regards to what exactly? They were heavily sanctioned with the Magnitsky Act and again after Ukraine/Crimea.

[RichardCranium]

You know they shot down a plane and invaded another country before trump, right?

Yes and the US had a limp-wristed response then, too. Same soup just warmed over.

[Androidpk]

Yes and the US had a limp-wristed response then, too. Same soup just warmed over.

Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

[RichardCranium]

Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

Those heavy sanctions really disparaged them from fucking with the US.

[SHAFT]

Those heavy sanctions really disparaged them from fucking with the US.

Perhaps the sanctions were more of a reason to get a candidate like Trump into the White House?

What was the US supposed to do? Go to war?

[Tgo01]

Those heavy sanctions really disparaged them from fucking with the US.

If I recall didn't Russia pretty much laugh off the sanctions because it targeted a few individual people? That was one round of sanctions that I recall anyway, don't remember what it was in response to.

[RichardCranium]

Perhaps the sanctions were more of a reason to get a candidate like Trump into the White House?

What was the US supposed to do? Go to war?

What are they supposed to do now? Go to war?

[Androidpk]

Those heavy sanctions really disparaged them from fucking with the US.

The best way to deal with Russia is to fuck with their money. Putin has been trying to claw back the Magnitsky Act sanctions since they were put in place and keep it from spreading to other countries.

[Androidpk]

What are they supposed to do now? Go to war?

Let Mueller finish his investigation.

[RichardCranium]

Let Mueller finish his investigation.

I'm all for it. The left will spin, the right will spin, and I'll continue giving zero fucks.

[Ashlander]

The best way to deal with Russia is to fuck with their money. Putin has been trying to claw back the Magnitsky Act sanctions since they were put in place and keep it from spreading to other countries.

Didn't Trump tell Germany that when he asked about the gas deal?

[time4fun]

Crazy how that all happened under the radar until Trump won.

So that's not accurate. The election meddling is something we started to find out about during the election. The election infrastructure hacking also happened before the election initially.

What IS fascinating is that we were actively punishing Russia for these attacks until Trump won. The Trump administration immediately tried to rescind all Russian sanctions (which is why Congress rushed through the Russian sanctions bill- they were all freaked out), and they've done their best to make Russia look innocent and to cover up what's been going on.

This is something the Trump camp has been doing since the campaign.

When you add that to the fact that we have clear evidence that Trump was well aware that Russia was meddling on his behalf, and that there were dozens of meetings between his people and Russian operatives (and the glut of other suspicious facts surrounding Trump and Russia), and candidly- you are VERY hard pressed to come up with an explanation for it that doesn't involve the word "collusion".

[time4fun]

I'm all for it. The left will spin, the right will spin, and I'll continue giving zero fucks.

Why are you proud of your apathy in the face of attacks on our sovereignty by our most significant geopolitical adversary? Especially when there's ample evidence that **AT BARE MINIMUM** the current sitting US President and his campaign were actively courting that adversary's help during the election?

That's really not something to be proud of. You're not "above the fray"- you're enabling it.

[RichardCranium]

Why are you proud of your apathy in the face of attacks on our sovereignty by our most significant geopolitical adversary? Especially when there's ample evidence that **AT BARE MINIMUM** the current sitting US President and his campaign were actively courting that adversary's help during the election?

That's really not something to be proud of. You're not "above the fray"- you're enabling it.

I'm not above anything. But this also isn't something new. The sooner we're done with a two party system the better.

[Tgo01]

Why are you proud of your apathy in the face of attacks on our sovereignty by our most significant geopolitical adversary?

You literally laughed when Romney said the exact same thing.

I just can't believe you're a real person anymore. It's impossible.

[Astray]

You literally laughed when Romney said the exact same thing.

I just can't believe you're a real person anymore. It's impossible.

The trick is to imagine her naked, then vigorously gouge out both eyes with the edge of your desk.

[Neveragain]

I want WW3 because the person I voted for lost, Hillary Clinton is totally worth thermo-nuclear war.
.

You're retarded.

[Methais]

What you don't know is, she said that because I just left her an especially nasty shart rep.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTn7wjflQU6c1eFn5WaI7pKOvoVb7A3N ZOPJqK2F5p1ZWw_xmem

[Neveragain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpNigDZALJk

https://media.tenor.com/images/b5e33c00f16eb543a93b27202f821f5b/tenor.gif

[BigWorm]

https://i.imgur.com/pyPpTle.jpg

[SHAFT]

https://i.imgur.com/pyPpTle.jpg

I'm just happy Big Worm is bout it.

[time4fun]

I'm not above anything. But this also isn't something new. The sooner we're done with a two party system the better.

Here's the real problem- you're boiling down an attack on our country to partisan politics.

For the first time in American history, we're not all united against our enemy.

[Seizer]

For the first time in American history, we're not all united against our enemy.

Really? So Iraq war, all were united? Vietnam?

[~Rocktar~]

Here's the real problem- you're boiling down an attack on our country to partisan politics.

For the first time in American history, we're not all united against our enemy.

You really need to study some history instead of women's pussy hats or whatever you claim to be an expert in. Stop with your false flag lies and own up to the point that the hacking, the BS, meddling all happened under your Lord Emperor Obama and he, his justice department and his intelligencia did not one fucking thing. They failed America, we now have to pick up the pieces. Every leader since World War II has met with the leader of the Kremlin/USSR/Russia so what's the fucking deal? OH, I know, it's because you Leftist Socialists have pushed for a war, an economic collapse, open borders, mass shooting spree or anything else that will hurt the US so you can blame Trump and make political hay. You don't give a shit who you hurt as long as you can make political hay and get votes.

The country has been divided over any enemies even as far back as going into WWI and WWII, seriously, you need to take some history classes and get over your histrionic hissy fits.

[Vishnell]

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Sent from my LGLS992 using Tapatalk

[Androidpk]

You really need to study some history instead of women's pussy hats or whatever you claim to be an expert in. Stop with your false flag lies and own up to the point that the hacking, the BS, meddling all happened under your Lord Emperor Obama and he, his justice department and his intelligencia did not one fucking thing. They failed America, we now have to pick up the pieces. Every leader since World War II has met with the leader of the Kremlin/USSR/Russia so what's the fucking deal? OH, I know, it's because you Leftist Socialists have pushed for a war, an economic collapse, open borders, mass shooting spree or anything else that will hurt the US so you can blame Trump and make political hay. You don't give a shit who you hurt as long as you can make political hay and get votes.

The country has been divided over any enemies even as far back as going into WWI and WWII, seriously, you need to take some history classes and get over your histrionic hissy fits.

The irony of an Alex Jones cultist telling someone to cut it with the false flag lies.. :lol2:

[Neveragain]

The irony of an Alex Jones cultist telling someone to cut it with the false flag lies.. :lol2:

When you refuse to admit Democrats didn't care until they lost the election.

Don't dox me bro!

[Androidpk]

When you refuse to admit Democrats didn't care until they lost the election.

Don't dox me bro!

Remind me again when it was first publicly revealed that the Trump campaign was being investigated by the FBI?

[Neveragain]

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I'm pretty sure that's Trump describing the size of dick Bernie supporters took up the ass when they still voted for Hillary Clinton.

[Neveragain]

Remind me again when it was first publicly revealed that the Trump campaign was being investigated by the FBI?

Remind me again when Obama knew about this a month before telling the country on national television that you should get over it.

Brenon "we're not collecting data on American citizens."

[Androidpk]

Remind me again when Obama knew about this a month before telling the country on national television that you should get over it.

Brenon "we're not collecting data on American citizens."

Maybe you should go back to talking about the "missing DNC server".

[Neveragain]

Here's the real problem- you're boiling down an attack on our country to partisan politics.

For the first time in American history, we're not all united against our enemy.

I don't see Russia as an enemy , though communists should be publicly hung.

[Neveragain]

Maybe you should go back to talking about the "missing DNC server".

So, your ass still hurts from taking it up the ass for the Clinton's?

[Androidpk]

So, your ass still hurts from taking it up the ass for the Clinton's?

didn't vote for clinton

[Methais]

The irony of an Alex Jones cultist telling someone to cut it with the false flag lies.. :lol2:

The irony of you calling anyone out for literally anything at all. :lol2:

[time4fun]

You really need to study some history instead of women's pussy hats or whatever you claim to be an expert in. Stop with your false flag lies and own up to the point that the hacking, the BS, meddling all happened under your Lord Emperor Obama and he, his justice department and his intelligencia did not one fucking thing. They failed America, we now have to pick up the pieces. Every leader since World War II has met with the leader of the Kremlin/USSR/Russia so what's the fucking deal? OH, I know, it's because you Leftist Socialists have pushed for a war, an economic collapse, open borders, mass shooting spree or anything else that will hurt the US so you can blame Trump and make political hay. You don't give a shit who you hurt as long as you can make political hay and get votes.

The country has been divided over any enemies even as far back as going into WWI and WWII, seriously, you need to take some history classes and get over your histrionic hissy fits.

ROFL

No one but your neo-nazi forebears were arguing that Germany and Japan weren't our enemies.

Also, I didn't mention wars. I mentioned attacks on our country.

Maybe you should invest in some literacy classes.

[Wrathbringer]

ROFL

No one but your neo-nazi forebears were arguing that Germany and Japan weren't our enemies.

Also, I didn't mention wars. I mentioned attacks on our country.

Maybe you should invest in some literacy classes.

you are a giant tard.

[time4fun]

Does Rockstar have any idea how batshit insane he sounds every time he posts?

[Wrathbringer]

Oh, I looked at the members list reverse sorted by fame and cwolff is the most red member here, followed by time4fun. LOL you two are such tards.

[Astray]

Does Rockstar have any idea how batshit insane he sounds every time he posts?

The amount of self awareness lacking in this comment.

[Wrathbringer]

Does Rockstar have any idea how batshit insane he sounds every time he posts?

Do you?

[Methais]

Does Rockstar have any idea how batshit insane he sounds every time he posts?

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Parkbandit]

Why are you proud of your apathy in the face of attacks on our sovereignty by our most significant geopolitical adversary? Especially when there's ample evidence that **AT BARE MINIMUM** the current sitting US President and his campaign were actively courting that adversary's help during the election?

That's really not something to be proud of. You're not "above the fray"- you're enabling it.

LOL.

#1 - Well done with the "most significant geopolitical adversary" line. That was a slap at Obama, no?

#2 - I suppose DickHead could just get emotionally unbalanced like you and say things like "this is the most frightened I have ever been from an election".... how did that work out for you again? Oh, that's right: Nothing changed.

[Parkbandit]

Does Rockstar have any idea how batshit insane he sounds every time he posts?

Holy shit.....

Please, pick up this book today:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41clv9wFE6L.jpg

[Parkbandit]

I'm just happy Big Worm is bout it.

translated: I'm just happy Big Worm is as upset about Trump as me.

:jerkit:
:jerkit::jerkit:
:jerkit:

[Tgo01]

Does Rockstar have any idea how batshit insane he sounds every time he posts?

This post needs to be bronzed and enshrined for its cluelessness.

[Seizer]

Also, I didn't mention wars. I mentioned attacks on our country.

Maybe you should invest in some literacy classes.

Oh right right. The twin towers was artistic expression. Is that how logic works?

[Tgo01]

Oh right right. The twin towers was artistic expression. Is that how logic works?

Democrats very recently defended MS13 gang members as having "the spark of divinity." They are now busy calling for ICE to be abolished because they are meanie heads to MS13 gang members. But you know, other than that the US has always been united against attacks on our country.

[Neveragain]

didn't vote for clinton

I didn't vote for Trump. That sure the fuck doesn't mean I'm going to make up fairy tales about Trump and Putin being best friends because Rand Paul wasn't elected. It also doesn't mean I'm suddenly going to support a gaggle of fucking nutbag socialists.

[Methais]

translated: I'm just happy Big Worm is as upset about Trump as me.

https://i.imgur.com/uf12kUt.jpg

[Astray]

God damn it.

[Androidpk]

That sure the fuck doesn't mean I'm going to make up fairy tales

Hrmm.. what were you saying about the missing DNC server?

[Taernath]

Monday: Trump says Russia didn't interfere in elections.

Monday night: Trump says the same thing on Hannity

Tuesday: Trump says Russia DID interfere in elections

Wednesday: Trump says Russia is no longer targeting US (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/asked-if-russia-still-targeting-u-s-trump-says-no-idUSKBN1K82AV?feedType=RSS&utm_source=reddit.com)

Christ

[Androidpk]

Monday: Trump says Russia didn't interfere in elections.

Monday night: Trump says the same thing on Hannity

Tuesday: Trump says Russia DID interfere in elections

Wednesday: Trump says Russia is no longer targeting US (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/asked-if-russia-still-targeting-u-s-trump-says-no-idUSKBN1K82AV?feedType=RSS&utm_source=reddit.com)

Christ

didn't even wait 24 hours

[Tgo01]

Monday: Trump says Russia didn't interfere in elections.

Monday night: Trump says the same thing on Hannity

Tuesday: Trump says Russia DID interfere in elections

Wednesday: Trump says Russia is no longer targeting US (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia/asked-if-russia-still-targeting-u-s-trump-says-no-idUSKBN1K82AV?feedType=RSS&utm_source=reddit.com)

Christ

He's evolving on the issue.

[Taernath]

My prediction:

Thursday: Trump says Russia isn't not no longer targeting US anymore

[Androidpk]

During the first White House press briefing in more than two weeks, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders didn’t rule out the possibility that President Trump will allow the Putin regime to question U.S. citizens — including a former American ambassador — whom Putin has accused of being involved in crimes.

https://thinkprogress.org/sanders-trump-putin-browder-mcfaul-questioning-952691de9f18/

This is beyond disturbing

[Tgo01]

During the first White House press briefing in more than two weeks, Press Secretary Sarah Sanders didn’t rule out the possibility that President Trump will allow the Putin regime to question U.S. citizens — including a former American ambassador — whom Putin has accused of being involved in crimes.

https://thinkprogress.org/sanders-trump-putin-browder-mcfaul-questioning-952691de9f18/

This is beyond disturbing

That's not how subpoenas work!

[Androidpk]

Mark Warner called it..


Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, on Tuesday dismissed President Trump's walkback of his comments during a joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Warner told CNN that he didn't believe Trump, who said that he "misspoke" Monday when he said he saw no reason why it "would be Russia" who interfered with the U.S. presidential election in 2016, siding with Putin's version over his own intelligence agencies.

“My feeling is this has a strange resemblance to the president’s comments after he was so offensive to the disturbances in Charlottesville that he equated the neo-Nazis with the protesters," Warner said, referring to the president's defense of "good people" on "both sides" of the violence caused by white nationalists in Virginia last year.
"He then walked back those comments a couple of days later for about 12 hours before he got on another Fox TV show or tweeted again," the Virginia Democrat added.

"So, I give these comments about 24 hours before he once again slams the investigation, before he once again sided with authoritarians like Vladimir Putin.”

[Neveragain]

Hrmm.. what were you saying about the missing DNC server?

What?

Sorry been working all day.....oh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rha6Wamfp0

https://obamadiary.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/htl0ojzmr0ylftxoltfi_black_president.gif?w=655

[Androidpk]

What?

Sorry been working all day.....oh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rha6Wamfp0

You would conflate the DNC server that you just complained about with the Hillary server.

[Neveragain]

You would conflate the DNC server that you just complained about with the Hillary server.

Oh sorry, wrong video....here it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9LHvIYi2_0

[time4fun]

Oh right right. The twin towers was artistic expression. Is that how logic works?

Last I checked- the country wasn't super divided over Osama Bin Laden as an enemy of the country.

[Astray]

Last I checked- the country wasn't super divided over Osama Bin Laden as an enemy of the country.

Why are you like this?

[drauz]

Why are you like this?

Lives in California.

[Astray]

Lives in California.

I know people in California that aren't damaged like that. It's some seriously alarming psychosis.

[time4fun]

The amount of self awareness lacking in this comment.

Feel free to provide an example of me saying something batshit insane like:


Every leader since World War II has met with the leader of the Kremlin/USSR/Russia so what's the fucking deal? OH, I know, it's because you Leftist Socialists have pushed for a war, an economic collapse, open borders, mass shooting spree or anything else that will hurt the US so you can blame Trump and make political hay. You don't give a shit who you hurt as long as you can make political hay and get votes.

I mean, "Leftist Socialists" pushing for mass shootings? Pushing for economic collapse? Trying to actively hurt the country?

I'm sorry, but this is the rant of someone who spends a lot of time listening to mentally unstable people giving deceptive and pathological political analysis.

[time4fun]

I know people in California that aren't damaged like that. It's some seriously alarming psychosis.

Um. Okay- sorry- are you trying to argue that half of the country was convinced that Osama Bin Laden was actually a friend of ours?

Because in that case, you may want to stop drinking before you post.

[Astray]

Feel free to provide an example of me saying something batshit insane like:



I mean, "Leftist Socialists" pushing for mass shootings? Pushing for economic collapse? Trying to actively hurt the country?

I'm sorry, but this is the rant of someone who spends a lot of time listening to mentally unstable people giving deceptive and pathological political analysis.

That's the catch 22 though, if I showed you examples like other people have, you'd ignore it and snap at me. You're not worth the annoyance. Seriously, you hide behind this fucking 'Social Justice' mentality and you're so down with standing up for the 'little' guy you fucking step on everyone else. You'd be pretentious if you weren't so inane.

What the fuck is the deal with you, chick? I've been just sitting here biting my tongue and just generally ignoring you but you're getting absurd. Just stop. Take a break.

[time4fun]

That's the catch 22 though, if I showed you examples like other people have, you'd ignore it and snap at me. You're not worth the annoyance. Seriously, you hide behind this fucking 'Social Justice' mentality and you're so down with standing up for the 'little' guy you fucking step on everyone else. You'd be pretentious if you weren't so inane.

What the fuck is the deal with you, chick? I've been just sitting here biting my tongue and just generally ignoring you but you're getting absurd. Just stop. Take a break.

Translation- your analogy wasn't relevant, and you have nothing.

[Astray]

Translation- your analogy wasn't relevant, and you have nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJIfxmDJKvk

[Parkbandit]

That's the catch 22 though, if I showed you examples like other people have, you'd ignore it and snap at me. You're not worth the annoyance. Seriously, you hide behind this fucking 'Social Justice' mentality and you're so down with standing up for the 'little' guy you fucking step on everyone else. You'd be pretentious if you weren't so inane.

What the fuck is the deal with you, chick? I've been just sitting here biting my tongue and just generally ignoring you but you're getting absurd. Just stop. Take a break.

Welcome to 2015....

What I really want to know is: How the FUCK did it take you over 3 years to determine she is a batshit insane dumb cunt??? You slow or something? You take the short bus to school?

That was painfully obvious to anyone who bothered reading the stupidity she's been posting here for 3 years.

[Astray]

Welcome to 2015....

What I really want to know is: How the FUCK did it take you over 3 years to determine she is a batshit insane dumb cunt??? You slow or something? You take the short bus to school?

That was painfully obvious to anyone who bothered reading the stupidity she's been posting here for 3 years.

I don't beef with anyone and I largely just ignored the politics folder. That's also the thing though I've had past interactions that lead me to believe that T4F was at least moderately normal, in-game and out. I just don't know what happened between that span of time.

[Seizer]

I know people in California that aren't damaged like that. It's some seriously alarming psychosis.
Figured she’d be fawning over you because you’re so “blunt”.

[~Rocktar~]

Translation- your analogy wasn't relevant, and you have nothing.

Translation - Your comments don't agree with my imagined reality. They are truthful, accurate and show at least a modicum of intelligence and rationality so I will discount them like others because my only real safe space is between my ears. Also, don't call ICE on my family member that I and my family have been shielding for decades now because we are too lazy to get the proper paperwork done.

[Parkbandit]

I don't beef with anyone and I largely just ignored the politics folder. That's also the thing though I've had past interactions that lead me to believe that T4F was at least moderately normal, in-game and out. I just don't know what happened between that span of time.

I only have this forum to go on.. but there's nothing moderate about her.

Like at all.

She's faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar alt left.

[Neveragain]

Lives in California.

Here's the real kicker. San Francisco is now allowing illegal aliens to register to vote in school district elections.

So much for keeping that election system protected.

Complete frauds.

[RichardCranium]

Here's the real kicker. San Francisco is now allowing illegal aliens to register to vote in school district elections.

So much for keeping that election system protected.

Complete frauds.

Meddling in other countries elections is fine if you do it in person.

[Androidpk]

House Republicans blocked a motion to bring in the translator used in Helsinki between Trump and Putin. Goes to show you where there loyalty lies. Hint, it isn't the US.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DidyPGRVQAAGLPq.jpg

[Wrathbringer]

House Republicans blocked a motion to bring in the translator used in Helsinki between Trump and Putin. Goes to show you where there loyalty lies. Hint, it isn't the US.

You're a subpoenaing tard.

[Androidpk]

Once again calling American journalists the real enemy of the country..

https://i.imgur.com/YpV8j1Z.jpg

[RichardCranium]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/republicans-block-subpoena-for-helsinki-summit-translator/2018/07/19/e0244da6-8b64-11e8-9d59-dccc2c0cabcf_story.html?utm_term=.8f8a64cdffcb


House Republicans blocked a motion to bring in the translator used in Helsinki between Trump and Putin. Goes to show you where there loyalty lies. Hint, it isn't the US.




Chairman Devin Nunes, also of California, led Republicans in a party line vote to table the motion. Nunes said a panel hearing on China was not an appropriate venue. The vote was 11-6.

[Methais]

I don't beef with anyone and I largely just ignored the politics folder. That's also the thing though I've had past interactions that lead me to believe that T4F was at least moderately normal, in-game and out. I just don't know what happened between that span of time.

She RPs a “trans” character and never shuts up on LNet about identity politics and her Trump butthurt.

I envy you for being able to go this long without noticing. Though I’m seriously starting to question if she’s really some grandmaster troll, because at least that would make sense as to how someone could be such a gigantic completely self unaware intellectually dishonest hypocrite, to put it lightly.

Her being a master troll is the only hope I have left.

[Methais]

House Republicans blocked a motion to bring in the translator used in Helsinki between Trump and Putin. Goes to show you where there loyalty lies. Hint, it isn't the US.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DidyPGRVQAAGLPq.jpg

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/crying-bernie-bro.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

[Androidpk]

oh no, someone that roleplays in an RP game!

[Wrathbringer]

oh no, someone that roleplays in an RP game!

quiet, tard.

[Astray]

She RPs a “trans” character and never shuts up on LNet about identity politics and her Trump butthurt.

I envy you for being able to go this long without noticing. Though I’m seriously starting to question if she’s really some grandmaster troll, because at least that would make sense as to how someone could be such a gigantic completely self unaware intellectually dishonest hypocrite, to put it lightly.

Her being a master troll is the only hope I have left.

My interactions with her have been normal, nothing even remotely signaling the levels of instability here. If this is some grandmaster troll (it isn't) then BRA-FUCKING-VO. Not even Iorake (whatever his name was) or Mcgyver were this bad. Michaelous. She's a dogshit human being like Michaelous and I do not make that comment lightly.

Sad. What a miserable human being.

[Androidpk]

quiet, tard.

or what, you gonna have another meltdown and beg me to stop posting?

[Wrathbringer]

or what, you gonna have another meltdown and beg me to stop posting?

lol @ you responding to the name, "tard". Now go away tard. No one wants you here.

[Androidpk]

lol @ you responding to the name, "tard". Now go away tard. No one wants you here.

You better stock up on tissues because I'm not going anywhere.

[Astray]

You better stock up on tissues because I'm not going anywhere.

Are we jerking off? Why the tissues?

[Androidpk]

Why the tissues?

For crying like a little bitch.

[Astray]

Is THAT what tissues are for? TEARS?!

What are you, gay?

[RichardCranium]

Is THAT what tissues are for? TEARS?!

What are you, gay?

Everyone knows tears are for lubrication.

[Astray]

Everyone knows tears are for lubrication.

Only once and I was drunk and I told you that in confidence.

[Androidpk]

Is THAT what tissues are for? TEARS?!

What are you, gay?

I don't need tissues for jerking it when I've got your mom.

[Astray]

I don't need tissues for jerking it when I've got your mom.

My mom has standards. Not high ones but you still fall short of them. Soz m8.

[Methais]

My interactions with her have been normal, nothing even remotely signaling the levels of instability here. If this is some grandmaster troll (it isn't) then BRA-FUCKING-VO. Not even Iorake (whatever his name was) or Mcgyver were this bad. Michaelous. She's a dogshit human being like Michaelous and I do not make that comment lightly.

Sad. What a miserable human being.

She's a complete fraud and anyone with a functioning brain (i.e. not cwolff or pk) can see it a mile away. pk used to seem to get it, but his Trump butthurt is common ground with time4fun so now they're besties.

It's one of the 483720423 reasons why she keeps dodging calling out racism when it's spoken by someone she agrees with politically.

Like this, which has been presented to her numerous times and 100% of the time she ignores it, because she knows how dumb she'll look if she answers it honestly:


Wait- is the argument they're making here that you are actually fine with white supremacy, but you pretend to hate it when it's convenient?

Because that's some deep irony.

https://i.imgur.com/lP5w6Pm.jpg



lol @ you responding to the name, "tard". Now go away tard. No one wants you here.

:lol:


I don't need tissues for jerking it when I've got your mom.

LOOK OUT EVERYONE HE'S BREAKING OUT THE BIG GUNS NOW!!!!!!!!11111

https://media.giphy.com/media/BVKghMztg3TFK/giphy.gif

[Androidpk]

Coats' reaction is priceless


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhH5RdcZfxI

[Androidpk]

Trump Is Being Manipulated by Putin. What Should We Do?

Lawmakers must keep the American people informed of the current danger, writes a Republican congressman from Texas.

Over the course of my career as an undercover officer in the C.I.A., I saw Russian intelligence manipulate many people. I never thought I would see the day when an American president would be one of them.

The president’s failure to defend the United States intelligence community’s unanimous conclusions of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and condemn Russian covert counterinfluence campaigns and his standing idle on the world stage while a Russian dictator spouted lies confused many but should concern all Americans.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/opinion/trump-russia-putin-republican-congress.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytopinion

[peam]

Lordy, there are tapes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/20/in-secret-recording-seized-by-fbi-trump-and-cohen-discuss-making-payments-for-story-of-former-model-who-alleged-affair-with-trump/?tidr=a_breakingnews

Edit - Obviously not related to the Russian investigation, but hey, campaign finance violations are good enough.

[Androidpk]

Lordy, there are tapes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/20/in-secret-recording-seized-by-fbi-trump-and-cohen-discuss-making-payments-for-story-of-former-model-who-alleged-affair-with-trump/?tidr=a_breakingnews

Edit - Obviously not related to the Russian investigation, but hey, campaign finance violations are good enough.

Cohen is most certainly connected to the Russian investigation though. He knows all about the multiple Trump Tower Moscow deals, his trip to Prague, the Ukraine peace deal, etc. Cohen flipping and cooperating with federal investigators is the final nail in Trump's coffin.

[peam]

Cohen is most certainly connected to the Russian investigation though. He knows all about the multiple Trump Tower Moscow deals, his trip to Prague, the Ukraine peace deal, etc. Cohen flipping and cooperating with federal investigators is the final nail in Trump's coffin.

100% Agree.

Was just preempting the RWCJ storming in with the usual ad-hominems and WHAT PAYING HER HAVE TO DO RUSSIA lines.

[Tgo01]

Lordy, there are tapes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/us/politics/michael-cohen-trump-tape.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/20/in-secret-recording-seized-by-fbi-trump-and-cohen-discuss-making-payments-for-story-of-former-model-who-alleged-affair-with-trump/?tidr=a_breakingnews

Edit - Obviously not related to the Russian investigation, but hey, campaign finance violations are good enough.

Yet another case of people suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome going 10 steps too far.

Instead of "Wow, Trump had another affair with a hot super model? What an ass." The going theory is already "Campaign finance violations! LOL! Impeachment time!"

Maybe just take a step back from the ledge already.

[Androidpk]

100% Agree.

Was just preempting the RWCJ storming in with the usual ad-hominems and WHAT PAYING HER HAVE TO DO RUSSIA lines.


Yet another case of people suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome going 10 steps too far.

Instead of "Wow, Trump had another affair with a hot super model? What an ass." The going theory is already "Campaign finance violations! LOL! Impeachment time!"

Maybe just take a step back from the ledge already.

:lol2:

[RichardCranium]

100% Agree.

Was just preempting the RWCJ storming in with the usual ad-hominems and WHAT PAYING HER HAVE TO DO RUSSIA lines.


“Nothing in that conversation suggests that he had any knowledge of it in advance,” Mr. Giuliani said, adding that Mr. Trump had directed Mr. Cohen that if he were to make a payment related to the woman, write a check, rather than sending cash, so it could be properly documented for campaign finance laws.

Hopefully it will be easy to prove or disprove.

[peam]

:lol2:

https://media.giphy.com/media/26gR0LCJtKCkQx7YA/giphy.gif

[Androidpk]

A reminder that the Shera Bechard case, barring an extension, becomes unsealed in 6 days. Cohen is sure to have made tapes of those conversations and it seems very likely that Trump is the one that had an affair with Bechard and paid her $1.6 million to keep quiet about aborting his baby.

[Tgo01]

https://media.giphy.com/media/26gR0LCJtKCkQx7YA/giphy.gif

You're really patting yourself on the back for that one? I didn't even mention Russia or collusion, I was very specifically pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice deflection attempt though. On a scale of 1 to Androidpk I give it a solid 9.

[Androidpk]

Yet another case of people suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome going 10 steps too far.

Instead of "Wow, Trump had another affair with a hot super model? What an ass." The going theory is already "Campaign finance violations! LOL! Impeachment time!"

Maybe just take a step back from the ledge already.

So evangelicals think it's okay to have affairs as long as you're boning a hot super model? Family values right?

[time4fun]

So evangelicals think it's okay to have affairs as long as you're boning a hot super model? Family values right?

The white Evangelical political movement isn't about values, it's about white racial anxiety. That's why they have no problem with his personal and professional lives- he's a means to an end

[peam]

You're really patting yourself on the back for that one? I didn't even mention Russia or collusion, I was very specifically pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice deflection attempt though. On a scale of 1 to Androidpk I give it a solid 9.

"I literally did one of the things you mentioned in the post but not both."

[Tgo01]

So evangelicals think it's okay to have affairs as long as you're boning a hot super model? Family values right?

I'm not an evangelical. Again, pk, stick to what you know: whining like a little bitch and threatening people because your feelings were hurt. Honestly that's your bread and butter right there. No one does that as well as you.

[Androidpk]

The white Evangelical political movement isn't about values, it's about white racial anxiety. That's why they have no problem with his personal and professional lives- he's a means to an end

Precisely, it's why they don't care that he most likely conspired with Russia.

[Androidpk]

No one does that as well as you.

Except of course you, who falsely accused a high school teacher of being a pedophile. Remember that?

[Tgo01]

"I literally did one of the things you mentioned in the post but not both."

You consider me pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome as an "ad hominem"? That's not how that logical fallacy works. If you had an IQ of 70, which probably isn't much of a stretch, it's not an "ad hominem" to point out your IQ of 70 if it's relevant to the discussion.

Therefore pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome, and providing an actual counter argument to your argument, while at the same time proving your Trump Derangement Syndrome, is not an "ad hominem."

I get it, you think an "ad hominem" is simply calling you a name and therefore I lost the argument. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

[peam]

You consider me pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome as an "ad hominem"? That's not how that logical fallacy works. If you had an IQ of 70, which probably isn't much of a stretch, it's not an "ad hominem" to point out your IQ of 70 if it's relevant to the discussion.

Therefore pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome, and providing an actual counter argument to your argument, while at the same time proving your Trump Derangement Syndrome, is not an "ad hominem."

I get it, you think an "ad hominem" is simply calling you a name and therefore I lost the argument. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

https://media.giphy.com/media/26gR0LCJtKCkQx7YA/giphy.gif

[Methais]

Cohen is most certainly connected to the Russian investigation though. He knows all about the multiple Trump Tower Moscow deals, his trip to Prague, the Ukraine peace deal, etc. Cohen flipping and cooperating with federal investigators is the final nail in Trump's coffin.

Quoted for OMG OMG OMG THIS IS REALLY IT THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[Tgo01]

Except of course you, who falsely accused a high school teacher of being a pedophile. Remember that?

You keep repeating this like I have ever denied it or it somehow shames me. Yes, I called Warriorbird a pedophile to prove a point about accusing someone of saying something they never did. Remember how you admitted to doing some fucked up shit but have ever since denied and deflected? Remember the fucked up shit you have done but have since downplayed it like it's no big deal?

You really think everyone is going to forget about all of that because I called someone a pedophile a year ago? If you want anyone on this forum to give you the attention you so desperately seek just keep bashing Trump, at least the people with worse Trump Derangement Syndrome than you will call you awesome when you do.

[Tgo01]

https://media.giphy.com/media/26gR0LCJtKCkQx7YA/giphy.gif

Exactly. A simple "I have no idea what an ad hominem is" would have sufficed.

[peam]

Exactly. A simple "I have no idea what an ad hominem is" would have sufficed.

https://media.giphy.com/media/26gR0LCJtKCkQx7YA/giphy.gif

[Androidpk]

Remember how you admitted to doing some fucked up shit but have ever since denied and deflected?

Nope, my story has been the same since day 1 and isn't going to change. Ever. Keep being a retarded racist though.

[Tgo01]

Nope, my story has been the same since day 1 and isn't going to change. Ever. Keep being a retarded racist though.

Just last night you openly admitted to doxing people. Keep being a sociopath though.

[Astray]

Nope, my story has been the same since day 1 and isn't going to change. Ever. Keep being a retarded racist though.

You threatened to subpoena a forum for a 30 year old game over political topics.

Bro. No offense. Maybe change your story?

[time4fun]

Precisely, it's why they don't care that he most likely conspired with Russia.

Yup. It's not a coincidence that the groups motivated by white racial anxiety have become increasingly skeptical of democracy and increasingly tolerant of authoritarianism. They know that as time moves on, white people make up less and less of the electorate- which means democracy will no longer guarantee them a controlling stake in the country, as it were.

We've seen it play out in the voter suppression efforts that have targeted minority voters.

We've seen it play out in the ruthless gerrymandering that has entrenched minority rule.

And we are seeing it in the way they are so quick to dismiss Trump's anti-democratic behaviors- appreciating the fact that he calls for the jailing of US citizens, attacks the Free press, attacks law enforcement agencies that he can't control, etc.

And we see it in the way they embrace Putin- one of the world's most notorious dictators.

It's really disheartening to watch, and it's this kind of sentiment that opens the door for some really dangerous changes.

[Androidpk]

You threatened to subpoena a forum for a 30 year old game over political topics.

Bro. No offense. Maybe change your story?

Over political topics? the fuck? No, over libel.

[Astray]

Over political topics? the fuck? No, over libel.

That's not better. It's not like anyone in your life, unless you directly talk or link them to it, is going to figure out what a bunch of nobodies say on a forum about you.

[Methais]

The white Evangelical political movement isn't about values, it's about white racial anxiety. That's why they have no problem with his personal and professional lives- he's a means to an end


Wait- is the argument they're making here that you are actually fine with white supremacy, but you pretend to hate it when it's convenient?

Because that's some deep irony.

What are your thoughts on this then? You seem to have no problem with racism when it's done by people you agree with politically. And we all know why.

https://i.imgur.com/lP5w6Pm.jpg

[Androidpk]

Just last night you openly admitted to doxing people. Keep being a sociopath though.

Says the person who has openly admitted to falsely accusing a high school teacher of being a pedophile. Keep being a sociopath though.

[Androidpk]

That's not better. It's not like anyone in your life, unless you directly talk or link them to it, is going to figure out what a bunch of nobodies say on a forum about you.

that's not how libel laws work

[Astray]

that's not how libel laws work

Not helping yourself, broseph.

[Tgo01]

Says the person who has openly admitted to falsely accusing a high school teacher of being a pedophile. Keep being a sociopath though.

Fact: 3 people here on the PC have accused you of some fucked up shit.
Fact: All 3 of these people provided some strong testimony to back up their accusations.
Fact: You yourself admitted to the stealing accusation, but then backtracked and said that's not what you meant.
Fact: You were banned from GS for a while shortly after this theft, although you claim that was unrelated.
Fact: We have a screenshot from Methais where you threatened to get him fired from his job.
Fact: We have your own posts where you threatened to subpoena Kranar.
Fact: Just last night you admitted to doxing people and said you would do it again.

Your credibility is shit and I think the evidence speaks for itself.

[Tgo01]

that's not how libel laws work

That's exactly how libel laws work. You have to prove damages. What damages did you suffer as a result of anonymous people saying mean things towards your anonymous screen name on an obscure forum that has maybe 100 unique people who actually read it on a regular basis, of which almost none of those people even know what your first name is?

Unless, of course, you're saying the damages you received was to your reputation right here on the PC itself? In which case I would love to see the lawyer who takes up such a case or the judge who allows such a trial to go through.

[Androidpk]

Fact: 3 people here on the PC have accused you of some fucked up shit.
Fact: All 3 of these people provided some strong testimony to back up their accusations.
Fact: You yourself admitted to the stealing accusation, but then backtracked and said that's not what you meant.
Fact: You were banned from GS for a while shortly after this theft, although you claim that was unrelated.
Fact: We have a screenshot from Methais where you threatened to get him fired from his job.
Fact: We have your own posts where you threatened to subpoena Kranar.
Fact: Just last night you admitted to doxing people and said you would do it again.

Your credibility is shit and I think the evidence speaks for itself.

3 people huh? Which 3 would that be? And what evidence they provide beyond posting a message on this forum? You have a serious case of PK derangement syndrome.

[Androidpk]

Not helping yourself, broseph.

look at all the fucks I give, look at them, astray

[Astray]

look at all the fucks I give, look at them, astray

Maybe I will, PK!

[Wrathbringer]

3 people huh? Which 3 would that be? And what evidence they provide beyond posting a message on this forum? You have a serious case of PK derangement syndrome.

no, you're just a piece of shit. You should leave.

[Methais]

Over political topics? the fuck? No, over libel.

Libel isn't things like (paraphrased) "Anyone can accuse anyone of anything, watch this - You're a pedophile. See how easy that was?" even moreso when everyone is using an alias and nobody except you is enough of a creepy no life loser to go searching the internet for their rl info.

It's nobody's fault but your own that you're either too stupid to figure this out, or that you're so emotionally unstable that you try to use it as an excuse to justify being a creepy stalker sack of decaying assholes.

You got your little feelings hurt because you got called out for being a moron, and since can't get your foot out of your mouth you double down on stupidity and creepiness instead.

I also like how on one hand you're like "This many people accused Trump of stuff, that means he's guilty!" and on the other hand you're like "The stuff said about me is just accusations and accusations don't equal guilt!" despite your own accidental admission to said thievery and unsuccessful attempts to walk it back after, which 0 people believed or have any reason to believe.

[Androidpk]

Libel isn't things like (paraphrased) "Anyone can accuse anyone of anything, watch this - You're a pedophile. See how easy that was?" even moreso when everyone is using an alias and nobody except you is enough of a creepy no life loser to go searching the internet for their rl info.

It's nobody's fault but your own that you're either too stupid to figure this out, or that you're so emotionally unstable that you try to use it as an excuse to justify being a creepy stalker sack of decaying assholes.

You got your little feelings hurt because you got called out for being a moron, and since can't get your foot out of your mouth you double down on stupidity and creepiness instead.

I also like how on one hand you're like "This many people accused Trump of stuff, that means he's guilty!" and on the other hand you're like "The stuff said about me is just accusations and accusations don't equal guilt!" despite your own accidental admission to said thievery and unsuccessful attempts to walk it back after, which 0 people believed or have any reason to believe.

oh matt, you're such a whiny little bitch

[Seizer]

What are your thoughts on this then? You seem to have no problem with racism when it's done by people you agree with politically. And we all know why.

https://i.imgur.com/lP5w6Pm.jpg

You're going about it the wrong way man. Perhaps if you make her an achievement award such as:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/p/MWz0tU7a.png

Or

https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/t/1tgCW7FO.png

Then maybe your question will be answered.

[Methais]

You're going about it the wrong way man. Perhaps if you make her an achievement award such as:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/p/MWz0tU7a.png

Or

https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/t/1tgCW7FO.png

Then maybe your question will be answered.

All of that would sail right over her head. She doesn't understand things that involve humor.

[time4fun]

You're going about it the wrong way man. Perhaps if you make her an achievement award such as:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/p/MWz0tU7a.png

Or

https://s3.amazonaws.com/achgen360/t/1tgCW7FO.png

Then maybe your question will be answered.

I don't really understand what you think there was to respond to.

He took a situation that referenced race and invented an imaginary racist moment.

He then invented an imaginary reaction I had to it.

He then proceeded to make an imaginary point about it.

Seriously, I know y'all aren't exactly working with a full deck of cards. But would it kill you to put a little effort into it?

[RichardCranium]

I don't really understand what you think there was to respond to.

He took a situation that referenced race and invented an imaginary racist moment.

He then invented an imaginary reaction I had to it.

He then proceeded to make an imaginary point about it.

Seriously, I know y'all aren't exactly working with a full deck of cards. But would it kill you to put a little effort into it?

If you don't think that is racism on any level then you are part of the problem.

[Parkbandit]

You're really patting yourself on the back for that one? I didn't even mention Russia or collusion, I was very specifically pointing out your Trump Derangement Syndrome. Nice deflection attempt though. On a scale of 1 to Androidpk I give it a solid 9.

On what retard scale do you have Androidpk as a 10?

He's a 1 by most metrics.

Reported.

[Parkbandit]

The white Evangelical political movement isn't about values, it's about white racial anxiety. That's why they have no problem with his personal and professional lives- he's a means to an end
http://portwindowglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Cinema-Projection-Port-300x194.jpg

[time4fun]

If you don't think that is racism on any level then you are part of the problem.

You...do understand that the point of the tweet was to bring attention to racism, right? The NRA has a long, sordid, *racist* history (http://nraontherecord.org/#/[Race]): calling men of color "thugs", spouting racist narratives like "Black on black crime", attacked Black Lives Matter, etc.

So first- it's actually embarrassing that Methais apparently knows so little about the history of the NRA and race that he can't recognize a critique of its racism when he sees it. Secondly, it's even more embarrassing that he's unable to differentiate critiques of racism from actual racism.

It's astounding that you don't think voter ID laws that target minority communities by eliminating voting on Sundays (to block souls to the polls) and shutting down polling locations in minority areas are racist, but you think someone pointing out that the NRA has a deep and abiding love for racist narratives is racist.

[Gelston]

She was bringing attention to racism by being racist.

[Tgo01]

spouting racist narratives like "Black on black crime"

So now pointing out crimes committed by black people is inherently racist? Come on.

[RichardCranium]

You...do understand that the point of the tweet was to bring attention to racism, right? The NRA has a long, sordid, *racist* history (http://nraontherecord.org/#/[Race]): calling men of color "thugs", spouting racist narratives like "Black on black crime", attacked Black Lives Matter, etc.

So first- it's actually embarrassing that Methais apparently knows so little about the history of the NRA and race that he can't recognize a critique of its racism when he sees it. Secondly, it's even more embarrassing that he's unable to differentiate critiques of racism from actual racism.

It's astounding that you don't think voter ID laws that target minority communities by eliminating voting on Sundays (to block souls to the polls) and shutting down polling locations in minority areas are racist, but you think someone pointing out that the NRA has a deep and abiding love for racist narratives is racist.

And you have the temerity to accuse others of spinning any and every situation that arises.

[Parkbandit]

Over political topics? the fuck? No, over libel.

Dude, you seriously threatened to subpoena a forum for a 30 year old game over politics.

Also, it's only libel when it's not true. Sorry. You are, in fact, a piece of shit.