Russia Investigation Heating Up

[Gelston]

Should be second nature to you then.

You're a guy that enjoys trolling an internet forum for a 30 year old text based game. I imagine your mother drank everclear on the reg while she was preggers with you.

[Gelston]

And you're responding to said troll which makes you even worse, heh.

No, it makes me bored.

[Androidpk]

Being banned from Reddit is so cool though. If you're a major fag.

It's not cool, it's funny.

[Androidpk]

How many times have you been banned from reddit threads?

2 times from r/the_donald, 2 times from r/hillaryclinton, and once from r/hillaryforprison

[ClydeR]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNdyqJZV4AIz49f.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNd08ZhU8AAcdkp.jpg






The President makes a good point. Hardly anybody in Trump world knew George Whatshisname.




Blasts from the pasts..


Trump reveals five-person foreign policy team
by Ryan Lovelace | Mar 21, 2016, 2:11 PM

Donald Trump named multiple foreign policy advisors for the first time since he began his presidential campaign more than 10 months ago.

In a meeting with the Washington Post's editorial board, Trump named a team of advisers chaired by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala. The Republican front-runner for president provided five names.

"Walid Phares, who you probably know. Ph.D., adviser to the House of Representatives. He's a counter-terrorism expert," Trump told the newspaper. "Carter Page, Ph.D. George Papadopoulos. He's an oil and energy consultant. Excellent guy. The honorable Joe Schmitz, [was] inspector general at the Department of Defense. Gen. Keith Kellogg. And I have quite a few more, but that's a group of some of the people that we are dealing with."

Papadopulos formerly served as a foreign policy adviser to Ben Carson during his presidential campaign. Carson's bid was marred by his grasp of foreign policy, which caused one adviser to publicly lament the retired neurosurgeon's inability to learn key issues.

More... (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-reveals-five-person-foreign-policy-team/article/2586387)






Trump's foreign policy team baffles GOP experts
Republicans can't figure out the mogul's quirky mix of advisers.
By MICHAEL CROWLEY 03/21/2016 07:45 PM EDT Updated 03/22/2016 12:57 PM EDT

Donald Trump’s new lineup of little-known foreign policy advisers isn’t exactly assuaging concerns about the Manhattan real estate mogul’s readiness to be commander in chief.

Republican insiders were scratching their heads Monday at names Trump offered as sources of regular advice on national security. Several of those Trump cited during a visit to The Washington Post’s editorial board are complete unknowns; others have mixed reputations among GOP national security pros. One prominently cites his attendance at a model United Nations conference as a credential on his LinkedIn page; another has compared President Barack Obama’s official national security strategy to a document about slavery written in 1850.

More... (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/donald-trump-foreign-policy-advisers-221058)


Two of the five people Trump cited Monday have private-sector backgrounds. One of them, George Papadopoulos, is a 2009 college graduate and an international energy lawyer. Papadopoulos had previously advised Ben Carson's presidential campaign. According to his LinkedIn page, he was a researcher at the conservative Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C., before joining the London Center of International Law Practice, which describes itself as dedicated to "peace and development through international law and dispute resolution."

Papadopoulos' LinkedIn page also boasts about his role at the 2012 meeting in Geneva of Model U.N., the student role-playing exercise on international diplomacy. It adds that he has "had experience lobbying foreign policy resolutions on Capitol Hill by means of coherent and concise arguments."

Another private-sector Trump adviser is Carter Page, a former investment banker and global energy consultant who graduated from the Naval Academy, according to his online biography. In discursive online blog postings about foreign policy that invoke the likes of Kanye West, Oprah Winfrey and Rhonda Byrne's self-help bestseller "The Secret," Page has blamed the U.S. for "misguided and provocative actions" toward Russia — notable in light of Trump's friendly words for Russian President Vladimir Putin.



Papadopoulos' indictment (https://www.justice.gov/file/1007346/download) says that he exchanged emails with his supervisor in the Trump campaign about Russia's offer to help, but the indictment carefully avoids ever identifying the supervisor by name.

[Androidpk]

https://amp.cnn.com/money/2017/10/31/media/fox-news-employees-russia-mueller-coverage/index.html

(CNNMoney)Some employees at Fox News were left embarrassed and humiliated by their network's coverage of the latest revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election meddling, according to conversations CNN had with several individuals placed throughout the network.

"I'm watching now and screaming," one Fox News personality said in a text message to CNN as the person watched their network's coverage. "I want to quit."

"It is another blow to journalists at Fox who come in every day wanting to cover the news in a fair and objective way," one senior Fox News employee told CNN of their outlet's coverage, adding that there were "many eye rolls" in the newsroom over how the news was covered.
The person said, "Fox feels like an extension of the Trump White House."

[Gelston]

It is a good thing CNN has this information.

[Parkbandit]

2 times from r/the_donald, 2 times from r/hillaryclinton, and once from r/hillaryforprison

OMG U R SUCH A HIPSTER!

So edgy.

really.

[Taernath]

The person said, "Fox feels like an extension of the Trump White House."

Well, no shit. I want to know who the "personalities" and "senior employees" are, though. Probably none of the people you see on camera.

[Gelston]

Well, no shit. I want to know who the "personalities" and "senior employees" are, though. Probably none of the people you see on camera.

THEY NEVER GIVE AWAY ANONYMOUS SOURCES. If anything, personalities could be some rando that publishes on their webpage and is sometimes on camera. Senior employees.. Well, obviously not that senior because they'd be able to do things about stuff.

[Taernath]

THEY NEVER GIVE AWAY ANONYMOUS SOURCES. If anything, personalities could be some rando that publishes on their webpage and is sometimes on camera. Senior employees.. Well, obviously not that senior because they'd be able to do things about stuff.

A mailroom clerk who's been there for 20 years could be a senior employee. This is just gossip mongering.

[Gelston]

A mailroom clerk who's been there for 20 years could be a senior employee. This is just gossip mongering.

Ah, senior as in time spent. Yeah. I was thinking senior as in position.

[Androidpk]

OMG U R SUCH A HIPSTER!

So edgy.

really.


Says the 70 year old who spends all his time shit posting on a forum for a 30 year old MUD.

[Androidpk]

Well, no shit. I want to know who the "personalities" and "senior employees" are, though. Probably none of the people you see on camera.

I imagine Fox would fire them if they knew who it was.

[Tgo01]

https://amp.cnn.com/money/2017/10/31/media/fox-news-employees-russia-mueller-coverage/index.html

(CNNMoney)Some employees at Fox News were left embarrassed and humiliated by their network's coverage of the latest revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election meddling, according to conversations CNN had with several individuals placed throughout the network.

"I'm watching now and screaming," one Fox News personality said in a text message to CNN as the person watched their network's coverage. "I want to quit."

"It is another blow to journalists at Fox who come in every day wanting to cover the news in a fair and objective way," one senior Fox News employee told CNN of their outlet's coverage, adding that there were "many eye rolls" in the newsroom over how the news was covered.
The person said, "Fox feels like an extension of the Trump White House."

LOL CNN.

[Parkbandit]

Says the 70 year old who spends all his time shit posting on a forum for a 30 year old MUD.

You just wear the dumbest shit like a badge of honor.. like "Hey guys! Look how edgy I am and did I mention I'm a centerist! I got banned from anti-Trump AND anti-Hillary reddit threads!"

You're a sheep.. you sway whichever the political wind blows. You have no actual principles.

This is one of the reasons you will always be a piece of shit.

[Parkbandit]

This is just gossip mongering.

That's what CNN has been reduced to.

They used to be the place where people went to get their news.

Now they are just a joke.

[Androidpk]

Oh noes, random person on the internet thinks I'm a piece of shit. However will I go on with my life.. :jerkit:

[Parkbandit]

Oh noes, random person on the internet thinks I'm a piece of shit. However will I go on with my life.. :jerkit:

You think it's just me.

Adorable.

[Androidpk]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/nope-cant-find-a-single-fuck.gif

[Parkbandit]

:jerkit:

[drauz]

101% certain PB is gay in real life, which is cool, whatever your lifestyle is your choice man.

101% certain that even your parents don't love you.

[Gelston]

Necro would be gay, but he can't find anyone, man or beast, to penetrate him.

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/uN7iNLf.jpg

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/gDHC11T.jpg

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/q066Oze.png

[Parkbandit]

101% certain PB is gay in real life, which is cool, whatever your lifestyle is your choice man.

You sound homophobic... or very hopeful.

What's wrong with someone being gay and how can you tell if I'm gay if I've never told you?

[Methais]

https://amp.foxnews.com/money/2017/10/31/media/cnn-news-employees-russia-mueller-coverage/index.html

(FOXBusiness)Some employees at CNN were left embarrassed and humiliated by their network's coverage of the latest revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election meddling, according to conversations FOX had with several individuals placed throughout the network.

"I'm watching now and screaming," one CNN personality said in a text message to FOX as the person watched their network's coverage. "I want to quit."

"It is another blow to journalists at CNN who come in every day wanting to cover the news in a fair and objective way," one senior CNN employee told FOX of their outlet's coverage, adding that there were "many eye rolls" in the newsroom over how the news was covered.
The person said, "CNN feels like an extension of the DNC."

_____________

I’ll never give up my anonymous sources and you can’t prove that this didn’t happen!

[Parkbandit]

https://amp.foxnews.com/money/2017/10/31/media/cnn-news-employees-russia-mueller-coverage/index.html

(FOXBusiness)Some employees at CNN were left embarrassed and humiliated by their network's coverage of the latest revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election meddling, according to conversations FOX had with several individuals placed throughout the network.

"I'm watching now and screaming," one CNN personality said in a text message to FOX as the person watched their network's coverage. "I want to quit."

"It is another blow to journalists at CNN who come in every day wanting to cover the news in a fair and objective way," one senior CNN employee told FOX of their outlet's coverage, adding that there were "many eye rolls" in the newsroom over how the news was covered.
The person said, "CNN feels like an extension of the DNC."

_____________

I’ll never give up my anonymous sources and you can’t prove that this didn’t happen!

That literally took just as much effort as the CNN "report".

[ClydeR]

Warren is awful brave when Trump is leaving for the Third World where they don't have an internet. Rest assured he will see this when he gets back.



https://i.imgur.com/Io168SB.png

[Parkbandit]

Warren is awful.


Finally, an intelligent post!

I knew you could do it!

[ClydeR]

Friday surprise.


President Donald Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a retired army Lt. General, is expected to plead guilty Friday morning to lying to the FBI about his post-election discussions with Russia's ambassador to the United States.

A plea hearing for Flynn, the first Trump administration official charged in the ongoing Russia probe, has been scheduled for 10:30 a.m. in Washington, D.C. federal court, Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office said.

More... (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/court-schedules-plea-hearing-for-flynn-at-1030-am-et.html)




Here is a portion of his "lock her up" speech at the 2016 Republican convention..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBAjhxjQ90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBAjhxjQ90

[Wrathbringer]

...and he's straight back to retard.

[Androidpk]

Pretty big news if he's pleading guilty, that most likely means he's flipped and spilled the beans on someone above him. My money is on Kushner being the next domino to fall.

[audioserf]

I don't think the question was ever if Flynn was going to be flipped, but rather how long it would take and who he'd give up.

[Androidpk]

I don't think the question was ever if Flynn was going to be flipped, but rather how long it would take and who he'd give up.

More Are Getting Arrested

[Shaps]

I'm perfectly fine with these indictments going out. What pisses me off... is the blatant politicization of them.

The relationships and links between the people so far brought up on charges, could just as easily be applied to about 183 other Democratic representatives or supporters. It could probably be applied to every single politician and lobbyist in Washington if you looked hard enough. Everyone ignores that fact though.

I've always wanted those in power to be held accountable, but it should be everyone. So get to it special prosecutor. Don't be a pussy political hack that only takes time to find fault or potential abuse by only one group.

Lastly.. every single charge so far has applied to individuals who were trying to profit personally. Makes sense.. that's what our asshole politicians do.. But it still has not proven one thing concerning deliberate "collusion" to affect the election. Everyone likes making that claim, but facts so far don't spell it out. Of course that won't matter to most people who are so blinded and have a hard time critically thinking.

I hate all politicians currently. I just wish that people would get rid of their political ideologies and apply the law equally to everyone that we "allow" to "rule" over us. They're OUR employees... we're not supposed to be theirs.

[Androidpk]

Get over it, your president is losing.

[Shaps]

Get over it, your president is losing.

And my point is immediately proven.

BTW.. he's everyone's President. How these things work.

[Androidpk]

I'd have the same reaction if these guys were Democrats, your point is moot.

[Wrathbringer]

Get over it, your president is losing.

This time will always be remembered as the time when time4fun left and you stepped into the retard void and fulfilled it beyond anyone's wildest expectations. Just saying, as a wry observer.

[Androidpk]

ABC News’ @BrianRoss reports that Flynn is prepared to testify President Trump directed him to make contact with Russians

[Androidpk]

This time will always be remembered as the time when time4fun left and you stepped into the retard void and fulfilled it beyond anyone's wildest expectations. Just saying, as a wry observer.

Trump is losing, get over it.

[Wrathbringer]

ABC News’ @BrianRoss reports that Flynn is prepared to testify President Trump directed him to make contact with Russians

#4moreyears

[Androidpk]

At this rate Trump will be lucky to make it to the end of 2018.

[Tenlaar]

NEW: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians."

MORE: Michael Flynn "is prepared to testify...against Pres. Trump, against members of the Trump family, and others in the White House," @BrianRoss reports. http://abcn.ws/2AhU3Iq

https://j.gifs.com/voqJvL.gif

[Wrathbringer]

At this rate Trump will be lucky to make it to the end of 2018.

Quoted for retardation posterity for when Trump gets re-elected.

[Back]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/936633614355324929

BREAKING: Ex-Trump adviser Michael Flynn admits in plea that Trump transition officials directed his contacts with the Russians.

[Wrathbringer]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/936633614355324929

BREAKING: Ex-Trump adviser Michael Flynn admits in plea that Trump transition officials directed his contacts with the Russians.

None of his voters care. I know I don't care.

[Androidpk]

None of his voters care. I know I don't care.

Your trolling is weak. Low energy. Sad!

[Wrathbringer]

I'm retarded.

Yep.

[audioserf]

I am actually not surprised that Trump voters don't care about the Russia investigation. It isn't going to end up mattering. Nothing matters. Nothing has mattered for years. Trump will remain in office.

[Shaps]

So let me get this straight..

Trump fires Flynn.. because Flynn lied to VP Pence and others about his dealings with Russia/Turkey.

Flynn now is indicted for lying (which he was already fired for).. makes a plea deal.. and is now saying that Trump officials possibly ordered him to make contact with the Russians.

This all after a year? Meanwhile talk about charging his son with criminal acts has been quietly taken off the table.

I'm not claiming to know one way or another.. and I hate to think a former Soldier would fall victim to greed/lying, but the majority of allegations against Flynn were so he could personally gain financially (not collude to affect an election).. and I know everyone is now on the "Trump did it!!!!!" hype-train.. but doesn't it seem a bit odd the timing/circumstances surrounding it to get him to talk? Just saying.

Again.. remember what this is all about.. or how it started.. the accusation was that Trump knowingly asked and worked with the Russians to affect an election. No indictment or accusation has proven anything to that effect. Everyone indicted so far was doing things that would personally benefit them monetarily..

If Flynn is supposed to be the smoking gun.. it better be more than a "he said - he said" thing..

I hope someone comes forward with some recordings soon and put this thing to rest. Either get some substantial proof and do what the law requires to Trump and whoever else.. then move on to the rest of our politicians and clean the whole damn place out. Our politicians are to fucking corrupt as is.

[Shaps]

I am actually not surprised that Trump voters don't care about the Russia investigation. It isn't going to end up mattering. Nothing matters. Nothing has mattered for years. Trump will remain in office.

I actually care.. I just wish the law would apply to EVERYONE. Regardless of party or affiliation or position. What depresses me is that our country is so hyper-partisan that it's wrong if "their side does it"... but okay or should be forgiven if it's someone on "our side".

I hate that.. law is the law.. apply it to everyone.. from the President on down.

[Androidpk]

Again.. remember what this is all about.. or how it started.. the accusation was that Trump knowingly asked and worked with the Russians to affect an election. No indictment or accusation has proven anything to that effect. Everyone indicted so far was doing things that would personally benefit them monetarily..

This came about because Trump fired Comey. It isn't just about collusion, it's also about obstruction of justice.

[Androidpk]

I actually care.. I just wish the law would apply to EVERYONE. Regardless of party or affiliation or position. What depresses me is that our country is so hyper-partisan that it's wrong if "their side does it"... but okay or should be forgiven if it's someone on "our side".

I hate that.. law is the law.. apply it to everyone.. from the President on down.

Republicans have spent over 100 million investigating Bill and Hillary... So now that a Republican is being investigated you're gonna cry foul?

[Shaps]

This came about because Trump fired Comey. It isn't just about collusion, it's also about obstruction of justice.

Comey was a fucking idiot. Firing him should have occurred. If you'll recall.. 6 months prior all the Democrats were calling for his resignation.

Stop mixing apples and oranges. There is no obstruction of justice going on right now. There is, arguably, "focused" justice as opposed to blind justice depending on your viewpoint.

Again.. I don't care who they are, what party affiliation, or what position they hold.. apply the law. But it should be applied fairly. Sadly there are very, very few impartial people left.

[Androidpk]

Comey was a fucking idiot. Firing him should have occurred. If you'll recall.. 6 months prior all the Democrats were calling for his resignation.

Stop mixing apples and oranges. There is no obstruction of justice going on right now. There is, arguably, "focused" justice as opposed to blind justice depending on your viewpoint.

Again.. I don't care who they are, what party affiliation, or what position they hold.. apply the law. But it should be applied fairly. Sadly there are very, very few impartial people left.

No obstruction? How do you figure? We have Trump asking Comey for an oath of loyalty. We have Trump asking Comey to drop the Flynn investigation. We have Trump firing Comey and telling the Russians it relieved a great deal of pressure on him. And on and on..

[Shaps]

Republicans have spent over 100 million investigating Bill and Hillary... So now that a Republican is being investigated you're gonna cry foul?

What foul am I crying?

Facts bear out that the Clinton's did some illegal shit.. You don't see them charged do you? Sound like it has been applied?

You think I only mean the Clinton's.. I mean them all.. You ever take a look at Nancy Pelosi's finances and contracts that her husbands firm has been awarded throughout the years? You see the call for Moore to get out of a Senate race (Which I fully agree he should and that he should be investigated)... Yet Al Franken (with proof of sexual assault and his own admission) is allowed to retain his current seat of power (when he should step down and be fired as well)... I could go on and on..

I'm all for.. if you sexually assault someone.. You should not be allowed to be the PEOPLE's representative.

I'm all for.. if you use your position to enrich yourself and your family to the tune of millions based upon the way you vote or push public funds around.. You should not be allowed to be the PEOPLE's representative.

I'm all for.. if you lie under oath or try to deceive others.. You should not be allowed to be the PEOPLE's representative.

I could go on and on.. My thing is.. I don't care what party they belong to.. I just want them all judged accordingly.

You on the other hand.. /shrug.

[Androidpk]

You on the other hand.. /shrug.

Right, I was only the biggest cheerleader for Hillary being investigated last year. Pull your big boy pants on and stop bitching because Trump and his cronies are going down, and rightfully so.

[Shaps]

No obstruction? How do you figure? We have Trump asking Comey for an oath of loyalty. We have Trump asking Comey to drop the Flynn investigation. We have Trump firing Comey and telling the Russians it relieved a great deal of pressure on him. And on and on..

Yea let's keep this partisan..

"No obstruction? How do you figure? We have the Clinton's asking Lynch for an oath of loyalty. We have Clinton asking Lynch to tell Comey to drop the Clinton investigation. We have the Clinton's and Democrats calling for the firing of Comey while he is doing the investigation, because it is affecting her Presidential run. And on and on.."

See how this works? I don't give a flying fuck about the party.. You just don't get that.

I want it applied to them ALL equally.

[Shaps]

Right, I was only the biggest cheerleader for Hillary being investigated last year. Pull your big boy pants on and stop bitching because Trump and his cronies are going down, and rightfully so.

Last reply.. because you don't read very well.. or comprehend what I'm saying.. You'll continue to think I care about a specific party or person no matter what I say.

[Androidpk]

Yea let's keep this partisan..

"No obstruction? How do you figure? We have the Clinton's asking Lynch for an oath of loyalty. We have Clinton asking Lynch to tell Comey to drop the Clinton investigation. We have the Clinton's and Democrats calling for the firing of Comey while he is doing the investigation, because it is affecting her Presidential run. And on and on.."

See how this works? I don't give a flying fuck about the party.. You just don't get that.

I want it applied to them ALL equally.

And Hillary was investigated. She wasn't charged but it certainly helped contribute to her massive election loss.

[Androidpk]

Last reply.. because you don't read very well.. or comprehend what I'm saying.. You'll continue to think I care about a specific party or person no matter what I say.

Your last reply because you know you don't have a point :|

[Shaps]

Your last reply because you know you don't have a point :|

And once again.. My point is proven.

** Using your logic above.. since I actually did post one more time, then apparently I do have a point. Thanks for proving it for me. (I'm sure you won't get the paradox of that statement either, but I find it amusing).

[Androidpk]

your so called point is you want everyone to be treated equally under the law.. Sure. Did you object to Hillary being investigated last year, because others did the same thing she did? I don't recall you doing that..

[Androidpk]

Senator Blumenthal's letter to VP Pence:

I am deeply troubled by these reports and the possibility that Mr. Flynn was acting as a lobbyist on behalf of foreign nations within the Trump transition and Administration. I write to you because, as chairman of the Trump transition team, you were responsible for overseeing Mr. Flynn. It is imperative that we learn the full extent of Mr. Flynn’s hidden lobbying for special interests or foreign interests while on the transition team and in the White House, as well as any undisclosed work he did for the Russian or Turkish governments, so that we may know his legal liability.


Accordingly, I request that you provide all information and any relevant documents pertaining to the following questions:


• Did Mr. Flynn at any time disclose that he had been offered $15 million to deliver Mr. Gulen to Turkey?


• What role did Mr. Flynn play in discussions within the transition team related to possible extradition of Mr. Gulen to Turkey, either by legal means or by extraordinary rendition?


• What role did Mr. Flynn play in advancing the IP3 “Marshall Plan” proposal described in the Washington Post article within the Trump transition team?


• Did Mr. Flynn at any time disclose he had previously been a consultant for IP3, a private company that had developed theproposal for a “Marshall Plan” for the Middle East, and stood to benefit from such a policy?


• What role did Mr. Flynn play in discussions within the transition team or the Administration related to the prosecution by Preet Bahara of Reza Zarrab?


• Who on the Trump transition team was aware of Mr. Flynn’s relationship with the following entities:

The government of Russia
The government of Turkey
The government of China
IP3
ACU Strategic Partners

[Tgo01]

https://j.gifs.com/voqJvL.gif


is prepared to testify that Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians, initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria.

So we have gone from Russians hacked the elections, to Trump colluded with the Russians to rig the elections, to Trump asked Flynn to make contact with the Russians as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria?

So now wanting to cooperate with the Russians to fight against terrorists is a bad thing?

Let me know what the next step of this witch hunt is because so far it's been dumber than pk getting angry on behalf of a whiter than a ghost pretend Native American.

[Androidpk]

Lying to the FBI is a crime.

[Tgo01]

Lying to the FBI is a crime.

Yeah that's great, what does this have to do with Trump? Or are we just excited because we are all pretending we hated Trump all along?

Shit, wasn't Flynn fired by Trump himself for the exact same reason, lying? Talk about going after low hanging fruit.

[Androidpk]

Who's pretending?

[Tgo01]

Who's pretending?

My bad, I meant Flynn. I know you hate Trump because Pocahontas told you to do so.

[Androidpk]

Flynn conspired with a foreign country to kidnap a US citizen... seeing as he isn't pleading guilty to that I imagine it's because he offered up something to the special counsel.

[Tgo01]

Flynn conspired with a foreign country to kidnap a US citizen... seeing as he isn't pleading guilty to that I imagine it's because he offered up something to the special counsel.

Or maybe Muller is so desperate he uses his unlimited funds to put the screws on a guy who can't afford the legal fees anymore until he agrees to plead guilty to something to make it all go away in an attempt to see if others will flip because someone else pleaded guilty.

All sorts of possibilities. But I'm sure the liberal news stations you watch 24/7 told you this means Trump is next. Let me guess; you're all over social media saying this is the end for Trump? Because someone pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI?

It's amazing for all of this Russian collusion that they haven't charged a single person with collusion so far.

[Androidpk]

You sound like Ashliana, accusing me of watching right wing media 24/7. Funny how you partisan hacks have so much in common.

[Tgo01]

You sound like Ashliana, accusing me of watching right wing media 24/7. Funny how you partisan hacks have so much in common.

I believe when you're being hard core liberal you watch liberal media 24/7. I also believe when you want to appear more "center" so you go hard core conservative you probably watch Infowars 24/7.

It's the only thing that explains this dumbassery.

[Androidpk]

And what explains your dumbassery sticking up for Trump 24/7?

[Tgo01]

And what explains your dumbassery sticking up for Trump 24/7?

Common sense with just a dash of awesomeness.

[Candor]

Go ahead libbies, impeach Trump. Because guess what, it's a lose-lose situation for you.

If the impeachment hearings go badly, you take the blame.

If Trump is impeached, we get Pence as President. Woohoo :)

[Androidpk]

Actually it's not looking good for Pence either. If Trump gets impeached Pence will be going down as well. We'd be getting President Ryan.

[Androidpk]

Also, Trump getting impeached is a win-win for everybody.

[Tgo01]

Actually it's not looking good for Pence either. If Trump gets impeached Pence will be going down as well.

Dude, seriously, time to stop watching Rachel Maddow.

Also it's simple. If Trump gets impeached then Pence becomes president. Pence pardons Trump and makes Trump his vice president. Pence is impeached then Trump is president.

Face it, Trump will be president for life.

[Tenlaar]

If Trump is impeached, we get Pence as President. Woohoo :)

Except for the part where Pence was the head of the transition team, and thus would be implicated as well if improprieties and/or illegal actions are confirmed to have been perpetrated by the transition team.

[Tgo01]

Except for the part where Pence was the head of the transition team, and thus would be implicated as well if improprieties and/or illegal actions are confirmed to have been perpetrated by the transition team.

Wow for all of this apparent lack of evidence of Russian collusion you guys sure are hanging your hat on the entire Trump administration going down because one guy pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

Here's a hint, guys, if you're pleading guilty for lying, people tend not to take your word too seriously. But SHHHH! Don't tell anyone I told you that.

[Androidpk]

Do you think Flynn is the last one to down in Mueller's investigation? Would you like to bet on that?

[Fortybox]

Do you think Flynn is the last one to down in Mueller's investigation? Would you like to bet on that?

Hopefully you’ll be next.

[Tgo01]

Do you think Flynn is the last one to down in Mueller's investigation? Would you like to bet on that?

Hasn't this investigation been going on for almost a year now? And the best they have is someone pleading guilty because he couldn't afford the unlimited funds Muller is playing with?

I have no idea if someone else is going down or not, but so far you ain't got shit. What are we up to now, like 4 people? Two of which were caught for lying to the FBI and two for money laundering that had nothing to do with the election at all?

Do you realize how you sound like a dumbass?

[Androidpk]

Hasn't this investigation been going on for almost a year now? And the best they have is someone pleading guilty because he couldn't afford the unlimited funds Muller is playing with?

I have no idea if someone else is going down or not, but so far you ain't got shit. What are we up to now, like 4 people? Two of which were caught for lying to the FBI and two for money laundering that had nothing to do with the election at all?

Do you realize how you sound like a dumbass?

Didn't answer my question. Think anyone else will get indicted?

[Tenlaar]

Wow for all of this apparent lack of evidence of Russian collusion you guys sure are hanging your hat on the entire Trump administration going down because one guy pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

Is anything about the statement you quoted not true?

[Tgo01]

Didn't answer my question. Think anyone else will get indicted?

I did answer your question:


I have no idea if someone else is going down or not

Are you to the point where you skip over a post of mine with a whole 3 lines and just assume you're right?

[Androidpk]

You dodged it with an I don't know. Take a guess. Will there be more people indicted or not.

[Tgo01]

Is anything about the statement you quoted not true?

Yes, the part where you said since Pence was part of the transition team this automatically means he's guilty too.

"The transition team" is not The Borg. IF what Flynn says is correct, that he was ordered to "contact the Russians" (OMG THE HORROR!) then surely someone gave that order. It doesn't mean the entire transition team is going to be thrown in jail. How can any reasonable person actually believe such a thing?

[Tgo01]

You dodged it with an I don't know. Take a guess. Will there be more people indicted or not.

That's vague as shit. I didn't think an investigation into RUSSIAN COLLUSION would indict people on lying to the FBI or money laundering in regards to a totally separate issue than the elections.

So no, I honestly have no idea if more trumped up charges are going to be levied against anyone else.

Do I think anyone higher than Flynn is actually going down for "Russian collusion"? Let's just say I would be very very surprised.

Let's hear your thoughts, tough guy.

[Androidpk]

You keep mentioning collusion as if that's the only thing Mueller is investigating. Again, this all started because Trump fired Comey, obstructing justice.

Do I think there will be more indictments? Absolutely. Flynn and his son could have been charged with a whole lot more. The fact that he was only charged with lying to the FBI and that he's cooperating with Mueller means there are probably more indictments coming. Kushner, Trump Jr and probably Sessions for starters.

[Tgo01]

You keep mentioning collusion as if that's the only thing Mueller is investigating.

Wasn't that the whole point of this?


Again, this all started because Trump fired Comey, obstructing justice.

That's more leftist narrative bullshit spoon fed to you from Blackmail News.

Here is the actual letter from the actual Deputy Attorney General stating what Mueller's investigation is all about:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/17/us/politics/document-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html

Notice b(i) there?


any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump

It's all specifically about Russian collusion and Russian interference in general. The idea that he was charged with looking into obstruction of justice is 100% bullshit.

Mueller has the authority to charge for other crimes that arise directly from his investigation into collusion, I'm not saying he doesn't. I'm just saying A) I think he has far exceeded that scope and B) I really have no idea what other bullshit he is going to be pulling out of his ass because he is increasingly looking like a man with an axe to grind.


The fact that he was only charged with lying to the FBI and that he's cooperating with Mueller means there are probably more indictments coming. Kushner, Trump Jr and probably Sessions for starters.

Or the more likely scenario that Mueller is hoping securing a guilty plea from Flynn will encourage others to seek out a plea deal as well.

You really think if Flynn had information to put both Kushner AND Trump Jr in jail (which could possibly lead him to Trump, which would probably make him jizz his pants) that Flynn would agree to possible jail time instead of holding out for immunity? Yeah. No. Looks more like Flynn can't afford to keep his team of lawyers around, Mueller knows Flynn doesn't have much and Mueller is hoping others will flip.

[Androidpk]

Oh you poor dear.. show us on the doll where the evil liberal media touched you.

[Parkbandit]

Actually it's not looking good for Pence either. If Trump gets impeached Pence will be going down as well. We'd be getting President Ryan.

This should be filed under "Androidpk's Special Soothsaying"

I think even Backlash has a better political track record than you do at this point.

SAD!

[Tgo01]

Oh you poor dear.. show us on the doll where the evil liberal media touched you.

Hey I'm willing to admit I'm wrong. I showed you a link outlining Mueller's investigation was to look into possible links/collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia. Go ahead and provide a link showing the investigation is looking into "obstruction of justice" because of Comey's firing.

[Tgo01]

Nope. A double impeachment will only come when and if the Dems take back Congress so in this scenario it would be...

https://i.imgflip.com/20cz3u.jpg

Good god. I know you're trolling and all but don't even joke about that shit.

[Methais]

Didn't answer my question. Think anyone else will get indicted?

The irony of you of all people complaining about someone else not answering a question. :lol:

Also:


ABC News faces blowback over corrected Flynn report

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/flynnmichael_021017getty.jpg?itok=b9l3mnIa

ABC News faced backlash on Friday after the network corrected a bombshell report saying that as a presidential candidate, Donald Trump pressed Michael Flynn to make contact with the Russians.

The network aired a special report Friday morning shortly after Flynn, Trump's former national security adviser, pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the month before Trump took office.

Financial markets shuddered in the wake of the report, with the Dow falling more than 350 points.

But the reporting that aired on television Friday morning was not included in ABC News' written report online, prompting questions about the accuracy of the on-air story.

The network issued a "clarification" on Friday evening, saying that Trump had asked Flynn during the campaign "to find ways to repair relations with Russia and other hot spots."

According to ABC, a Flynn confidant cited by the network clarified that it was after the election that Trump "directed Flynn to contact Russian officials on topics that included working jointly against ISIS."

Still, the error drew scorn across the political spectrum and among journalists, who blasted ABC News for initially only issuing a clarification as opposed to an actual correction about what the confidant had said.

"Astonishing. The story moved markets, set off a media frenzy, suggested worst possible outcome," tweeted Jim VandeHei, the CEO and co-founder of the news site Axios. "This is called a massive correction, or retraction, not clarification."

Astonishing. The story moved markets, set off a media frenzy, suggested worst possible outcome. This is called a massive correction, or retraction, not clarification. https://t.co/uVUamf4jYY
— Jim VandeHei (@JimVandeHei) December 2, 2017

Former longtime cable news journalist Greta Van Susteren blasted other news outlets for picking up ABC News' original report, and accusing the network of trying to "sugar coat" its error by issuing a clarification instead of a correction.

"What makes it worse is that ABC won’t admit its error and now tries to sugar coat it with now calling their correction just a ‘clarification’ - (and other news organizations of course repeated ABC original story)," the former Fox News and NBC News anchor tweeted.

What makes it worse is that ABC won’t admit its error and now tries to sugar coat it with now calling their correction just a ‘clarification’ - (and other news organizations of course repeated ABC original story) https://t.co/bgZhtK40wB
— Greta Van Susteren (@greta) December 2, 2017

Trump's former White House press secretary Sean Spicer also hit the network over its clarification, writing on Twitter that ABC News should apologize to its viewers.

"@ABC 'news' owes it viewers an apology. Calling false reporting a 'clarification' is a cop out and just another reason for the decline in trust of the media," he said.

.@ABC “news” owes it viewers an apology. Calling false reporting a “clarification” is a cop out and just another reason for the decline in trust of the media
— Sean Spicer (@seanspicer) December 2, 2017

Andrew Kaczynski, a reporter for CNN's "K-File," echoed criticism that ABC News should have issued a correction in the first place, and called out the network for taking so long to address the matter.

"This isn't a clarification, it's a huge correction and one that took hours to do," he tweeted.

This isn't a clarification, it's a huge correction and one that took hours to do. https://t.co/rYozu7x8Kl
— andrew kaczynski (@KFILE) December 2, 2017

ABC News eventually deleted its references to the fix as a "clarification," calling it a "correction" instead.

CORRECTION of ABC News Special Report: Flynn prepared to testify that President-elect Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians *during the transition* -- initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria, confidant now says. https://t.co/ewrkVZTu2K pic.twitter.com/URLiHf3uSm
— ABC News (@ABC) December 2, 2017

Flynn's guilty plea on Friday was the most dramatic development yet in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Trump campaign associates' ties to Russia during last year's election. The news dominated headlines throughout the day, overshadowing Senate Republicans' efforts to pass a plan overhauling the nation's tax code.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362903-abc-news-faces-blowback-over-corrected-flynn-report

[Shaps]

The irony of you of all people complaining about someone else not answering a question. :lol:

Also:



http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362903-abc-news-faces-blowback-over-corrected-flynn-report

Surprise, surprise... Fucking political partisanship at work again as opposed to facts. Fucking sad.

Shit like this is why Trump won the election.. shit like this is why people don't trust mainstream news outlets.. shit like this is what keeps us as a Nation divided.. It's sad.

[Shaps]

**Flynn's guilty plea on Friday was the most dramatic development yet in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Trump campaign associates' ties to Russia during last year's election.**

This was the funniest part of the whole thing. Again.. an indictment with absolutely NOTHING to do with COLLUSION. But because Flynn was being a greedy asshole and trying to make some shady money.. it somehow gets tied to Trump colluded with the Russians.

I have no idea one way or another.. but the shit that Mueller is finding so far has nothing to do with the original purpose the special counsel was put together.

Let's see how the next few months play out.

[~Rocktar~]

Rush Limbaugh correctly pointed out that the timing is fishy and since this is now across the headlines, look at what is NOT being focused on anymore.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/01/limbaugh-timing-flynn-charges-may-not-coincidental-look-news-swept-off-front-pages/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

In my opinion, this is a petty attempt at Mueller and his team trying to not look like they are completely useless while not finding any collusion. All while they are trying to save their reputation as they waste millions of taxpayer money. They also get a nice bit of publicity and a chance to influence the 2018 elections with more false narrative.

So, anyone know anything about the Vegas shooter's motive? What about any updates to the fishy as hell timeline? How about the mysterious deaths of victims that claimed different stores? What about the FBI covering up the Hillary documents? Are there more accusations against politicians and entertainment that they are hiding? All these things now off the front page because Mueller issued a petty indictment to try and look important. This is how they managed to prosecute Martha Stewart simply because she is rich, fairly conservative and somewhat mean.

If the magician wants you to watch one hand, you likely should be paying attention to the other one.

And just as a reminder:
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

[Tgo01]

The irony of you of all people complaining about someone else not answering a question. :lol:

Also:



http://thehill.com/homenews/media/362903-abc-news-faces-blowback-over-corrected-flynn-report

Trump colluded with the Russians to rig the election AFTER he had already won the election!

This is the testimony they think is going to take down Trump and his entire family and administration. Oh yeah and take down Mike Pence too! At least people weren't being too hyperbolic about this.

[Methais]

Trump colluded with the Russians to rig the election AFTER he had already won the election!

This is the testimony they think is going to take down Trump and his entire family and administration. Oh yeah and take down Mike Pence too! At least people weren't being too hyperbolic about this.

But pk said it was a done deal so Trump is going down for sure. FOR REAL THIS TIME UNLIKE ALL THOSE OTHER TIMES THAT WERE ALSO FOR REAL!!!!!!!1

[Tgo01]

But pk said it was a done deal so Trump is going down for sure. FOR REAL THIS TIME UNLIKE ALL THOSE OTHER TIMES THAT WERE ALSO FOR REAL!!!!!!!1

I almost feel bad for them at this point. Every day for almost a year now they were convinced they would wake up to find Trump in handcuffs and "news" like this just keeps that "hope" alive.

[Wrathbringer]

But pk said it was a done deal so Trump is going down for sure. FOR REAL THIS TIME UNLIKE ALL THOSE OTHER TIMES THAT WERE ALSO FOR REAL!!!!!!!1

lol

[Methais]

ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Trump/Flynn report - Fox News
https://apple.news/AGZX-zt8OSPS5yNUyvbol7g

TRUMP SHOULD BE IN HANDCUFFS ANY MINUTE NOW EVERYBODY ESPECIALLY TIME4PK

[Tgo01]

ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Trump/Flynn report - Fox News
https://apple.news/AGZX-zt8OSPS5yNUyvbol7g

TRUMP SHOULD BE IN HANDCUFFS ANY MINUTE NOW EVERYBODY ESPECIALLY TIME4PK

This suspension proves Trump's collusion with Russia!

I just stubbed my toe! Proof of Trump's collusion with Russia!

I think Trump refers to the media as "fake news" so often that they are in a self fulfilling prophecy mode right now. The original report is quite literally the definition of fake news.

[Methais]

This suspension proves Trump's collusion with Russia!

I just stubbed my toe! Proof of Trump's collusion with Russia!

I think Trump refers to the media as "fake news" so often that they are in a self fulfilling prophecy mode right now. The original report is quite literally the definition of fake news.

I hope Trump holds a ceremony to present CNN with their fake news trophy and streams it live.

[BigWorm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_598dRV0AESGzu.jpg

[Androidpk]

Trump's tweets are going to be his downfall.

[Archigeek]

Trump's tweets are going to be his downfall.

No no, his lawyer writes them. Nothing to worry about.

[Parkbandit]

Trump's tweets are going to be his downfall.

So it's not Russian collusion or obstruction of justice... it'll be his tweet that will be his downfall now?

........

[Tgo01]

So it's not Russian collusion or obstruction of justice... it'll be his tweet that will be his downfall now?

........

It's like you can literally picture the smile being wiped from their face in a matter of hours

To go from: Trump is going down now! Flynn says he'll testify that Trump told him to make contact with the Russians during the election!
Then after the real news comes out that he was ordered to make contact AFTER Trump had already won the election (you know, like a president is supposed to do) they are now back to grasping at straws. But...but his tweets!

[~Rocktar~]

Mueller and crew are trying their best to find anything they can pin on Trump or others so they can try to not look like a waste of taxpayer dollars. It's of course too late for that and the integrity of the investigation is seriously compromised not only by the FBI agent's bias coming out but also by Mueller himself and his relationship with Comey and others but hey, if it makes Liberal hearts pitter patter with a false sense of hope then it must be ok. This whole thing stinks, has always stunk, Comey should have been fired day one regardless along with several other people simply because they sure looked incompetent from the get go.

[Androidpk]

No no, his lawyer writes them. Nothing to worry about.

Fake tweets!

[Methais]

Trump's tweets are going to be his downfall.

What happened to Trump is definitely going down for super real this time?

What happened man? WHAT HAPPENED?!?!?!?!?!!

[Parkbandit]

"I will say this. Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI. And nothing happened to her. Flynn lied and they destroyed his life. I think it’s a shame. Hillary Clinton on 4th of July weekend went to the FBI, not under oath, it was the most incredible thing anyone’s ever seen. She lied many times. Nothing happened to her. Flynn lied and it’s like they ruined his life. It’s very unfair." -President Trump

[Androidpk]

The big difference between Trump and Hillary is that she surrounded herself with lawyers. Trump has lawyers but he can't keep his damn mouth shut.

[Parkbandit]

The big difference between Trump and Hillary is that she surrounded herself with lawyers. Trump has lawyers but he can't keep his damn mouth shut.

With an ego like his.. you don't need lawyers. He's smarter than all the lawyers and has far better words to use.

LAWYERED!

[Methais]

The big difference between Trump and Hillary is that she lost.

Yes yes I heartily agree.

[~Rocktar~]

I bet she doesn't like crow. As much of it as she has had to eat, she needs to get used to the taste. For the record, this whole show is chock full of racism, sexism and misandry but hey, it's ok as long as you are a Liberal/Progressive/Socialist and a bitter screaming talk show harpy.


https://youtu.be/82kbsAu_LyY

[Androidpk]

Manafort had his bail deal pulled because he has apparently been working with someone who is linked to Russian intelligence while under house arrest. Derp.

[Androidpk]

Special prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump’s business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.


Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany’s largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family, according to a person briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the action has not been announced.


“Deutsche Bank always cooperates with investigating authorities in all countries,” the lender said in a statement to Bloomberg Tuesday, declining to provide additional information.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-is-said-to-have-received-subpoena-on-client-trump

[Gelston]

Trump had dealings with the largest bank in all of Germany? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

[Taernath]

Trump had dealings with the largest bank in all of Germany? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

You know who else had dealings with the largest bank in Germany?

[Androidpk]

You know who else had dealings with the largest bank in Germany?

Germans?

[Gelston]

You know who else had dealings with the largest bank in Germany?

A lot of the people on Earth, as it is the largest foreign exchange dealer on Earth?

[Parkbandit]

You know who else had dealings with the largest bank in Germany?

ZOMG HITLER!

[Methais]

Special prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump’s business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.


Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany’s largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family, according to a person briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the action has not been announced.


“Deutsche Bank always cooperates with investigating authorities in all countries,” the lender said in a statement to Bloomberg Tuesday, declining to provide additional information.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-is-said-to-have-received-subpoena-on-client-trump

IS THIS IT THIS TIME? NOT LIKE THE OTHER DEFINITELY FOR REAL TIMES, BUT IS THIS TIME DEFINITELY IT FOR REAL??????

[Parkbandit]

IS THIS IT THIS TIME? NOT LIKE THE OTHER DEFINITELY FOR REAL TIMES, BUT IS THIS TIME DEFINITELY IT FOR REAL??????

If President Trump tweets about the bank, THEN IT'S FOR REAL THIS TIME DEFINITELY!

[ClydeR]

Something's not right here..


WASHINGTON, Dec 5 (Reuters) - A lawyer for U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that Deutsche Bank has not received any subpoena for financial records relating to the president or his family as part of the special counsel’s Russia probe.

“We have confirmed that the news reports that the Special Counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false,” Sekulow told Reuters in a statement. “No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources.”

More... (https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-trump-deutsche-bank-sekulow/trump-lawyer-deutsche-bank-has-not-received-subpoena-for-trump-records-idUSL1N1O51ZZ)

[Tgo01]

This is straight from Blackmail News so even liberals must believe it!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html


A former top counterintelligence expert at the FBI, now at the center of a political uproar for exchanging private messages that appeared to mock President Donald Trump, changed a key phrase in former FBI Director James Comey's description of how former secretary of state Hillary Clinton handled classified information, according to US officials familiar with the matter.
Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the sources said.
The drafting process was a team effort, CNN is told, with a handful of people reviewing the language as edits were made, according to another US official familiar with the matter.

So this FBI agent, who has made it no secret that he hates Trump and would lick Hillary's asshole if given the chance, was involved in the Hillary email investigation and helped change the language of Hillary's crimes from "grossly negligent" (an actual legal term that implies a crime has been committed) to just "extremely careless."

Oh yeah, this same FBI agent was assigned to the Russian collusion bullshit (and was the agent who signed off on starting the FBI investigation into the Russian collusion bullshit) and had to be reassigned once his views became public knowledge. Oh yeah, he was also in the room when the FBI "caught" Michael Flynn lying to them.

Nothing to see here! Everything is fine!

[Androidpk]

So if Hillary wasn't charged with anything what difference does it make that language was changed to be more appropriate?

[Tgo01]

So if Hillary wasn't charged with anything what difference does it make that language was changed to be more appropriate?

Remember Comey had a long drawn out speech where it sounded like he'e saying Hillary is guilty as sin, but then says something like "No prosecutor will ever take up this case." A lot of people thought this was Comey's way of saying she was guilty but he decided to not recommend charges because he didn't think a prosecutor would take the case.

This word change also goes to show that at one point Comey/whoever helped draft his statement believed Hillary had acted with gross negligence.

It doesn't matter since she wasn't charged, but it shows this agent's bias and how his hand seems to be in every fucking thing related to both presidential candidates. One candidate with mountains of evidence was given a pass, the other candidate with so far ZERO EVIDENCE against him and there is still an ongoing investigation nearing 1 year long now.

[Androidpk]

This is all a vast left wing conspiracy to smear republicans!

[~Rocktar~]

So if Hillary wasn't charged with anything what difference does it make that language was changed to be more appropriate?

Lazy troll is lazy.

[Tgo01]

This is all a vast left wing conspiracy to smear republicans!

Androidpk is now downplaying the FBI letting Hillary off the hook. You dating a far left liberal now or something?

[Gelston]

This is all a vast left wing conspiracy to smear republicans!

Weren't you the one always saying shit was going to come from those damn emails? Are you saying you were wrong to think that?

[Methais]

Androidpk is now downplaying the FBI letting Hillary off the hook. You dating a far left liberal now or something?

He’s been getting pegged by time4fun.

[ClydeR]

Something's not right here..


A lot of people who work in the White House regularly read my posts. This message is for them..

I've looked into this issue about Deutsche Bank. The President needs new lawyers. His current lawyers are dumb. You have dumb defense lawyers and a smart prosecutor. That's a bad combination. Take my word for it before it's too late.

[Parkbandit]

A lot of people who work in the White House regularly read my posts. This message is for them..

I've looked into this issue about Deutsche Bank. The President needs new lawyers. His current lawyers are dumb. You have dumb defense lawyers and a smart prosecutor. That's a bad combination. Take my word for it before it's too late.

https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.rs/attachments/2527239-1411079126-513c1-jpg.61185/

[Wrathbringer]

He’s been getting pegged by time4fun.

Did he steal all her stuff too?

[Methais]

Did he steal all her stuff too?

From what I hear, she keeps her collection of fun, fancy dildos heavily guarded.

[Wrathbringer]

From what I hear, she keeps her collection of fun, fancy dildos heavily guarded.

I bet she used them loudly and pissed pk off.

[Latrinsorm]

I'm perfectly fine with these indictments going out. What pisses me off... is the blatant politicization of them. The relationships and links between the people so far brought up on charges, could just as easily be applied to about 183 other Democratic representatives or supporters. It could probably be applied to every single politician and lobbyist in Washington if you looked hard enough. Everyone ignores that fact though. I've always wanted those in power to be held accountable, but it should be everyone. So get to it special prosecutor. Don't be a pussy political hack that only takes time to find fault or potential abuse by only one group. Lastly.. every single charge so far has applied to individuals who were trying to profit personally. Makes sense.. that's what our asshole politicians do.. But it still has not proven one thing concerning deliberate "collusion" to affect the election. Everyone likes making that claim, but facts so far don't spell it out. Of course that won't matter to most people who are so blinded and have a hard time critically thinking. I hate all politicians currently. I just wish that people would get rid of their political ideologies and apply the law equally to everyone that we "allow" to "rule" over us. They're OUR employees... we're not supposed to be theirs.If you have evidence that 183 Democrats lied to the FBI, I'm sure as a former director of the FBI Mueller would love to hear it. For the record, he is a registered Republican and was appointed to that position by President George W. Bush.
Actually it's not looking good for Pence either. If Trump gets impeached Pence will be going down as well. We'd be getting President Ryan.On the other hand, what if impeachment proceedings drag on past the midterms and Democrats regain the House? Makes you wonder if the Republicans would be better off introducing impeachment proceedings of their own. My guess is it happens after the President sabotages the tax bill somehow.
Wasn't that the whole point of this? That's more leftist narrative bullshit spoon fed to you from Blackmail News. Here is the actual letter from the actual Deputy Attorney General stating what Mueller's investigation is all about: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/17/us/politics/document-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html Notice b(i) there? It's all specifically about Russian collusion and Russian interference in general. The idea that he was charged with looking into obstruction of justice is 100% bullshit.Notice b(iii)?

28 CFR 600.4 - Jurisdiction. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4#)

"The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted."

Happy to help.

[Gelston]

Has this heated up yet?

[Parkbandit]

Has this heated up yet?

Hey now.. patience. It's only been going on for 13 months.

These things take time.

[Latrinsorm]

Michael Flynn was the 24th person to be National Security Advisor in US history.

He was the first to plead guilty to a felony.

[Wrathbringer]

Michael Flynn was the 24th person to be National Security Advisor in US history.

He was the first to plead guilty to a felony.

no one cares. fake news. you lost get over it

[Androidpk]

Hey now.. patience. It's only been going on for 13 months.

These things take time.

Special counsel investigation is coming up on 7 months and it's moving at a pretty rapid pace compared to the Nixon investigation.

[Tgo01]

"The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted."

You're acting worse than Blackmail news lately.

Androidpk: "The special counsel was put together to investigate Trump's obstruction of justice for firing Comey!"
Me: "Hey look at this document that spells out exactly what the special counsel is supposed to investigate, which has nothing to do with obstruction of justice over firing James Comey."
Latrin: "Ackchyually...if you just read these three bold words out of context you will see that Androidpk was right."

[Androidpk]

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:


(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals


associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and


(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and


(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).


§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

[Tgo01]

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:


(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals


associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and


(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and


(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).


§ 600.4 Jurisdiction.
(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

Androidpk admits he can't read either.

[Androidpk]

Tgo admits he's a partisan troll.

[Tgo01]

Tgo admits he's a partisan troll.

Of course I'm partisan, but the troll thing is all up in yo head.

You went from stating this investigation is in part about Trump's "obstruction of justice" into Comey's firing then quote this:


(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

As if it backs up what you say. Like I told Latrinsorm, sure, if you just look at those 3 words out of context you might be onto something. But try to read. I know it's hard for you, pk, but make an effort to read.

It says Mueller can investigate federal crimes committed in the course of his investigation, AND WITH THE INTENT TO INTERFERE with his investigation, including obstruction of justice.

How does one obstruct an investigation before the investigation even began? Use your words like a big boy.

You been reading so much fake news that you engage in it yourself now.

[Androidpk]

Useless troll is useless.

[Tgo01]

Useless troll is useless.

You can always pinpoint the exact moment Androidpk realizes he's in way over his head, when his posts consist of less than a dozen words and is just an ad hominem.

It's okay, pk, maybe someday you'll make sense.

[Androidpk]

Yeah, I'm totally over my head by pointing out how stupid you're being. Try harder, troll.

[Tgo01]

Yeah, I'm totally over my head by pointing out how stupid you're being. Try harder, troll.

Uh, that's 5 words too many there, bub.

[Androidpk]

Robert Mueller and his team are focusing on the days after White House officials were told Michael Flynn was vulnerable to Russian blackmail, NBC News' Carol Lee and Julia Ainsley report, citing "two people familiar with Mueller's investigation".


Why it matters: This means Mueller's team could be working to determine if Trump obstructed justice and is likely seeking out what President Trump knew about Flynn's conversations with former Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, and subsequently, when Trump learned Flynn lied about them.

https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-focusing-on-obstruction-of-justice-around-flynn-2516559523.html

[Methais]

In before more disappointment.

[Wrathbringer]

In before more retardation from time4pk.

[Latrinsorm]

Of course I'm partisan, but the troll thing is all up in yo head.

You went from stating this investigation is in part about Trump's "obstruction of justice" into Comey's firing then quote this:



As if it backs up what you say. Like I told Latrinsorm, sure, if you just look at those 3 words out of context you might be onto something. But try to read. I know it's hard for you, pk, but make an effort to read.

It says Mueller can investigate federal crimes committed in the course of his investigation, AND WITH THE INTENT TO INTERFERE with his investigation, including obstruction of justice.

How does one obstruct an investigation before the investigation even began? Use your words like a big boy.

You been reading so much fake news that you engage in it yourself now.For example, by altering records or intimidating witnesses. Pretty much any way you'd obstruct an investigation after it started, really.

[Tgo01]

For example, by altering records or intimidating witnesses. Pretty much any way you'd obstruct an investigation after it started, really.

So...Trump had the intent to obstruct Mueller's investigation before Mueller even started his investigation? No. Just no.

[Tgo01]

Robert Mueller and his team are focusing on the days after White House officials were told Michael Flynn was vulnerable to Russian blackmail, NBC News' Carol Lee and Julia Ainsley report, citing "two people familiar with Mueller's investigation".


Why it matters: This means Mueller's team could be working to determine if Trump obstructed justice and is likely seeking out what President Trump knew about Flynn's conversations with former Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, and subsequently, when Trump learned Flynn lied about them.

https://www.axios.com/report-mueller-focusing-on-obstruction-of-justice-around-flynn-2516559523.html

Is this like CNN's story that Trump had advance access to Wikileaks' Clinton emails then it turned out they were full of shit?

[Androidpk]

So...Trump had the intent to obstruct Mueller's investigation before Mueller even started his investigation? No. Just no.

No.. not the Mueller investigation, the ongoing investigation at the FBI. This isn't rocket science..

[Tgo01]

No.. not the Mueller investigation, the ongoing investigation at the FBI. This isn't rocket science..

That's great. Except that's not the scope of the investigation nor does what you quoted earlier pertain to this supposed obstruction. Do you...do you understand now? Need me to draw you some stick figures?

[Androidpk]

You can deny it all you want, Mueller is investigating obstruction of justice.

[Tgo01]

You can deny it all you want, Mueller is investigating obstruction of justice.

Oh I'm sure he is. His investigation went off the rails months ago and he seems to think he's invincible at this point. With a public thirsting for blood, you know, people like you, he probably feels he has to bring something back so he doesn't look like a complete fraud and waste of money.

[Androidpk]

Did Fox news tell you that?

[Tgo01]

Did Fox news tell you that?

Under a dozen words...CHECK!
Nothing but an ad hominem...CHECK!

I accept your defeat.

[Latrinsorm]

So...Trump had the intent to obstruct Mueller's investigation before Mueller even started his investigation? No. Just no.You didn't ask what the President's intent was, you asked, quote, "How does one obstruct an investigation before the investigation even began?" I explained to you how one obstructs an investigation before the investigation began, because you asked how one obstructs an investigation before the investigation began. This is how using our words works. You ask a question, you get an answer to that question, you don't like the answer, you cry.

Since you have now asked what the President's intent was, I will be happy to answer that as well. (See? You ask a question, you get an answer to that question.) The President's intent was to obstruct justice. He did not and could not know that Robert Mueller specifically would head the investigation, he did not and could not know what specific wrongdoing had occurred (if any), and he did not and could not know whether any investigation would even take place. He nevertheless intended and acted to obstruct justice.

This is the part where you don't like the answer and cry.

[Tgo01]

You didn't ask what the President's intent was

It's in what both you and Androidpk quoted:


(a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

You and pk are really, really, REALLY bad at this. Show us on this doll where the mean Trump touched you.

[Methais]

You didn't ask what the President's intent was, you asked, quote, "How does one obstruct an investigation before the investigation even began?" I explained to you how one obstructs an investigation before the investigation began, because you asked how one obstructs an investigation before the investigation began. This is how using our words works. You ask a question, you get an answer to that question, you don't like the answer, you cry.

Since you have now asked what the President's intent was, I will be happy to answer that as well. (See? You ask a question, you get an answer to that question.) The President's intent was to obstruct justice. He did not and could not know that Robert Mueller specifically would head the investigation, he did not and could not know what specific wrongdoing had occurred (if any), and he did not and could not know whether any investigation would even take place. He nevertheless intended and acted to obstruct justice.

This is the part where you don't like the answer and cry.

https://media.giphy.com/media/GrPBH7m40ZhBK/giphy.gif

[~Rocktar~]

Here is as good an explanation in clear terms as I think may be possible as to why the hell this whole "investigation" is a sham and why thinking people don't trust the government.


https://youtu.be/2DkrOjQ0lkI

I wish Trey had gone for AG. I could see him gutting the FBI upper echelons real fast over crap like this. Pretty much all of the government needs a massive bloodletting to clean out the crap and RIP (retired in place) people.

[cwolff]

His entire argument is predicated on a conspiracy theory that Mueller is a libtard, FBI is a corrupted political organization and the DOJ (minus Sessions and Trump appointees) are rigging the game against Trump.

So no, it's not a good explanation in clear terms. It's bald faced partisan politics and I'm disgusted that you guys are attacking FBI agents, IC specialists who defend our nation and other patriots in service.

Every day I see these posts and can't fucking believe that 30 some odd percent of Americans are totally down with this shit.

[Latrinsorm]

This is the part where you don't like the answer and cry.I didn't ask for these powers.

[~Rocktar~]

His entire argument is predicated on a conspiracy theory that Mueller is a libtard, FBI is a corrupted political organization and the DOJ (minus Sessions and Trump appointees) are rigging the game against Trump.

So no, it's not a good explanation in clear terms. It's bald faced partisan politics and I'm disgusted that you guys are attacking FBI agents, IC specialists who defend our nation and other patriots in service.

Every day I see these posts and can't fucking believe that 30 some odd percent of Americans are totally down with this shit.

Right. Your self righteous indignation over attacking a corrupt FBI agent continues to fall on deaf ears. Failing to step aside when you have a personal conflict of interest in an investigation is not serving the US.

this doesn't even get into the whole bit about people being offered money to accuse Trump of sexual harassment, the fact at least one of Moore's accusers admitted to making the whole thing up, and the continued rotation of the media from "Russian collusion" to "Sexual harassment accusations" to "Dementia" and now the latest crackpot scheme of complaining that he drinks Diet Coke. Everyday when I see this televised shitshow at work on the break room TVs I can't believe that more than 5% of Americans swallow this shit.

[Androidpk]

Rocktar sounding unhinged as he usually does..

[cwolff]

What conflict of interest? There isn't one. That's a fantasy. Mueller is a GOP appointee as FBI director, Marine officer and combat veteran. His investigators are allowed to despise their target if they wish. Most LEO probably do.

No one's paying Trumps victims to accuse him. That's another dumb ass conspiracy theory. None of Moores accusers admitted to making the whole thing up. That's retarded. As for attacking his infirmities; well that's just precious that you worry about something like this. DJT don't mind making fun of cripples or Hillary for her physical stumbles. Obviously the fitness of POTUS is fair fucking game for the people of this country to know about.

[~Rocktar~]

What conflict of interest? There isn't one. That's a fantasy. Mueller is a GOP appointee as FBI director, Marine officer and combat veteran. His investigators are allowed to despise their target if they wish. Most LEO probably do.

No one's paying Trumps victims to accuse him. That's another dumb ass conspiracy theory. None of Moores accusers admitted to making the whole thing up. That's retarded. As for attacking his infirmities; well that's just precious that you worry about something like this. DJT don't mind making fun of cripples or Hillary for her physical stumbles. Obviously the fitness of POTUS is fair fucking game for the people of this country to know about.

^^ Proof positive that you can't fix stupid. I and others have outlined Mueller's poor actions. And yes, in an investigation, if you have a personal bias, you should recuse yourself from it since you cannot be impartial. Many of the investigators, lawyers and staff that Mueller picked have been shown to be embroiled in all of this mess and yet, they are still in the mix. The rest, well, I can type and present factual evidence until I am blue in the face and neither you, time4pk or the other Socialist/Libtard drones will ever catch on.

[cwolff]

What mess? What conflict? You're saying these agents are doubles who have been turned from the oaths by which they've lived their lives and are now secret deep state agitators all conspiring together to bring down Trump. All agents have personal bias because they're human beings. And please do remember: Robert Mueller is superb choice to be special counsel. His reputation is impeccable for honesty and integrity. Media should now calm down

[Androidpk]

Obviously Mueller is a closet-liberal and he's being funded by Soros to take down the Republicans.

[cwolff]

I got to get me one of those sweet George Soros gigs. Apparently he's employs all the protesters. I wonder what kind of benefits hes got.

[BigWorm]

Rocktar thinks that having an opinion that he doesn't agree with equals corruption. Rocktar has a lot of bad opinions so not surprised he thinks anyone who knows their head from their ass is corrupt.

[Methais]

What conflict of interest? There isn't one. That's a fantasy. Mueller is a GOP appointee as FBI director, Marine officer and combat veteran. His investigators are allowed to despise their target if they wish. Most LEO probably do.

No one's paying Trumps victims to accuse him. That's another dumb ass conspiracy theory. None of Moores accusers admitted to making the whole thing up. That's retarded. As for attacking his infirmities; well that's just precious that you worry about something like this. DJT don't mind making fun of cripples or Hillary for her physical stumbles. Obviously the fitness of POTUS is fair fucking game for the people of this country to know about.

Lolololol @ you still buying into the long debunked “Trump mocked a cripple” narrative while claiming to be informed.


https://youtu.be/CsaB3ynIZH4

[cwolff]

It's not debunked. What the hell's wrong with you? You got his cock so deep down your throat you're eyes are too watered up to see the truth. I swear. You fucks will go to any length to rationalize trumps problems.

[Methais]

So from that video you posted, he made fun of disabled people on more than one occassion. Note, right before he made fun of the reporter's disability he prefaces with "...you should have seen this guy..." and does a full blown mockery of mentally handicapped people (not a split second one he did in the other events).

Still not sending you dick pics, sorry.

[Tenlaar]

Everybody knows an investigation is corrupt unless the person being investigated is liked by all of the people investigating him.

That's why only Democrat Hillary supporters were allowed to be part of those investigations into her.

[Parkbandit]

Everybody knows an investigation is corrupt unless the person being investigated is liked by all of the people investigating him.

That's why only Democrat Hillary supporters were allowed to be part of those investigations into her.

wut?

[Ashliana]

wut?

The implication of the GOP's (and by extension, naturally, the conservatives on this board's) argument.

Jesus, PB. We know you're breathtakingly stupid - you don't have to demonstrate it to us on a daily basis.

[Parkbandit]

The implication of the GOP's (and by extension, naturally, the conservatives on this board's) argument.

Jesus, PB. We know you're breathtakingly stupid - you don't have to demonstrate it to us on a daily basis.

Someone mentions "dick pics" and look what comes running.

[Wrathbringer]

Someone mentions "dick pics" and look what comes running.

:lol:

[Methais]

Someone mentions "dick pics" and look what comes running.

:lol:


:lol:

:lol:

[Archigeek]

Michael Flynn's plea bargain. What were the charges that he got reduced down to lying to the FBI? And what did he agree to do in exchange for a lesser charge? I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

[Gelston]

:lol:

Why is Orbstar your avatar?

[Taernath]

Why is Orbstar your avatar?

He's thanking him for his service.

[Androidpk]

Asked Friday whether he believes the Russian government meddled with the 2016 presidential election, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis reportedly replied: “Yes, I believe they did.” The comment comes in contradiction of President Trump, who has at times called the reports of Kremlin interference to be a “hoax,” a “made-up story,” or has said he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he denies his government did any such thing.

Either Mattis is trying to get fired on purpose or he's a closet liberal in league with Soros and the Clintons!

[Wrathbringer]

Asked Friday whether he believes the Russian government meddled with the 2016 presidential election, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis reportedly replied: “Yes, I believe they did.” The comment comes in contradiction of President Trump, who has at times called the reports of Kremlin interference to be a “hoax,” a “made-up story,” or has said he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he denies his government did any such thing.

Either Mattis is trying to get fired on purpose or he's a closet liberal in league with Soros and the Clintons!

You're retarded.

[Methais]

Asked Friday whether he believes the Russian government meddled with the 2016 presidential election, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis reportedly replied: “Yes, I believe they did.” The comment comes in contradiction of President Trump, who has at times called the reports of Kremlin interference to be a “hoax,” a “made-up story,” or has said he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he denies his government did any such thing.

Either Mattis is trying to get fired on purpose or he's a closet liberal in league with Soros and the Clintons!

Or maybe it's possible that different people have different opinions even when they're on the same team.

[Gelston]

Or maybe it's possible that different people have different opinions even when they're on the same team.

I see that shit a lot these days. Mostly from other Conservatives. You disagree on one issue and "YOU'RE A LIBTARD! DERP DERP DERP!"

[Ashliana]

Or maybe it's possible that different people have different opinions even when they're on the same team.

Isn't it funny how you're describing trust in our intelligence community, and the evidence they have, as an "opinion," as if it were somehow subjective? And isn't it weird that the one politically motivated to deny events we have evidence for is the only one denying it?

And FYI, it isn't just Mattis. It's also Pompeo. It's also Tillerson. It's also Kelly. And anyone else with a brain. But, sure, "opinions."

[Methais]

Isn't it funny how you're describing trust in our intelligence community, and the evidence they have, as an "opinion," as if it were somehow subjective? And isn't it weird that the one politically motivated to deny events we have evidence for is the only one denying it?

And FYI, it isn't just Mattis. It's also Pompeo. It's also Tillerson. It's also Kelly. And anyone else with a brain. But, sure, "opinions."


“Yes, I believe they did.”

"I believe..." equals facts now? Feel free to explain how that works.

He also didn't say he believes Russia meddled in the election to swing it in Trump's favor. He could be referring to colluding with Hillary for all you know, or just to create chaos in general where both sides point the fingers at each other while Putin watches and laughs and faps.

Would it make your fragile little feelings feel better if I said "belief" instead of "opinion?" Because one thing neither of those represent is facts.

Or are you with time4pk thinking Mattis is trying to get fired and/or is a closet liberal?

Let's give this a whirl:


Asked Friday whether he believes the Russian government meddled with the 2016 presidential election, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis reportedly replied: “Yes, I believe they did.” The comment comes in contradiction of President Trump, who has at times called the reports of Kremlin interference to be a “hoax,” a “made-up story,” or has said he believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he denies his government did any such thing.

Either Mattis is trying to get fired on purpose or he's a closet liberal in league with Soros and the Clintons!

Or maybe it's possible that different people have different beliefs even when they're on the same team.

I do sincerely hope your feelings feel better now.

[Ashliana]

"I believe..." equals facts now? Feel free to explain how that works.

He also didn't say he believes Russia meddled in the election to swing it in Trump's favor. He could be referring to colluding with Hillary for all you know, or just to create chaos in general where both sides point the fingers at each other while Putin watches and laughs and faps.

Would it make your fragile little feelings feel better if I said "belief" instead of "opinion?" Because one thing neither of those represent is facts.

Or are you with time4pk thinking Mattis is trying to get fired and/or is a closet liberal?

Let's give this a whirl:


Spoiler Alert: When someone asks the Secretary of Defense whether or not the "believe" something, they're not asking "do you have faith -- akin to spiritual faith, i.e., despite not having evidence -- (X) occurred," they're asking: "Is it the stance of the Secretary of Defense that (X) did occur?" Or "Is the IC credible when they assert that (X) occurred?" So yes, in that sense, "believe" does "equal facts," in the same way that someone who says "Yes, I believe in evolution or the shape of the earth" isn't speaking to some magical, subjective experience based on belief.

The fact that this has to be explained to you -- that you're either so mind-bogglingly retarded, or simply intellectually dishonest -- is sad but unsurprising.


Or maybe it's possible that different people have different beliefs even when they're on the same team.

I do sincerely hope your feelings feel better now.

Your tantrum aside, there's a reason why Trump's CIA director, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the WH chief of staff, the FBI director, etc., all agree that Russia interfered in the election: Because it's been established beyond all doubt, and you're sitting here shitting out apologetics for someone who (correctly, in your case) knows his supporters are retarded partisans who can't see up from down.

[Parkbandit]

Spoiler Alert: When someone asks the Secretary of Defense whether or not the "believe" something, they're not asking "do you have faith -- akin to spiritual faith, i.e., despite not having evidence -- (X) occurred," they're asking: "Is it the stance of the Secretary of Defense that (X) did occur?" Or "Is the IC credible when they assert that (X) occurred?" So yes, in that sense, "believe" does "equal facts," in the same way that someone who says "Yes, I believe in evolution or the shape of the earth" isn't speaking to some magical, subjective experience based on belief.

The fact that this has to be explained to you -- that you're either so mind-bogglingly retarded, or simply intellectually dishonest -- is sad but unsurprising.

Your tantrum aside, there's a reason why Trump's CIA director, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the WH chief of staff, the FBI director, etc., all agree that Russia interfered in the election: Because it's been established beyond all doubt, and you're sitting here shitting out apologetics for someone who (correctly, in your case) knows his supporters are retarded partisans who can't see up from down.

Wait... when someone uses bold, underlines and italics... they are having a temper tantrum?

Honestly, that explains so, so much with your posts.

Thank you for that insight into a deranged fool's mind.

[Ashliana]

Non-sequitur because his little mind couldn't scrounge up a substantive reply.

Banter acknowledged. You're still an imbecile. :)

[Methais]

Spoiler Alert: When someone asks the Secretary of Defense whether or not the "believe" something, they're not asking "do you have faith -- akin to spiritual faith, i.e., despite not having evidence -- (X) occurred," they're asking: "Is it the stance of the Secretary of Defense that (X) did occur?" Or "Is the IC credible when they assert that (X) occurred?" So yes, in that sense, "believe" does "equal facts," in the same way that someone who says "Yes, I believe in evolution or the shape of the earth" isn't speaking to some magical, subjective experience based on belief.

The fact that this has to be explained to you -- that you're either so mind-bogglingly retarded, or simply intellectually dishonest -- is sad but unsurprising.



Your tantrum aside, there's a reason why Trump's CIA director, the Secretary of Defense, the Attorney General, the WH chief of staff, the FBI director, etc., all agree that Russia interfered in the election: Because it's been established beyond all doubt, and you're sitting here shitting out apologetics for someone who (correctly, in your case) knows his supporters are retarded partisans who can't see up from down.

You’re approaching Backlash levels of stupid now. You also seem to think I don’t think Russia tried to mess with the election all because I said it’s possible for people on the same team to think differently and you had a meltdown over semantics. You also seem to think they’re referring to collusion with Trump when so far the only hint of collusion that has come out is with your hero Hillary.

Also feel free to elaborate on which parts of my post were me throwing a tantrum. I’m genuinely curious to hear what kind of retarded shit you come up with. But instead we already know you’ll give a time4pk style non-answer because you’re full of shit. Not that that’s breaking news around here or anything.

PS: Belief still doesn’t = fact no matter how much you want it to be the case.

[Gelston]

There is a difference between "I believe" and "I know", Ashliana. I know, I know, shocking.

[Methais]

There is a difference between "I believe" and "I know", Ashliana. I know, I know, shocking.

Why do you hate retards? Retards are people too. Reported.

[Latrinsorm]

Or maybe it's possible that different people have different opinions even when they're on the same team.The point being made is that people who express different opinions don't stay on the President's team for long. Consider Bannon.

[Gelston]

The point being made is that people who express different opinions don't stay on the President's team for long. Consider Bannon.

Mattis has expressed differences of opinion with Trump even while being vetted by Trump.

[Ashliana]

You’re approaching Backlash levels of stupid now. You also seem to think I don’t think Russia tried to mess with the election all because I said it’s possible for people on the same team to think differently and you had a meltdown over semantics. You also seem to think they’re referring to collusion with Trump when so far the only hint of collusion that has come out is with your hero Hillary.

Also feel free to elaborate on which parts of my post were me throwing a tantrum. I’m genuinely curious to hear what kind of retarded shit you come up with. But instead we already know you’ll give a time4pk style non-answer because you’re full of shit. Not that that’s breaking news around here or anything.

PS: Belief still doesn’t = fact no matter how much you want it to be the case.

Spoiler Alert: This (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=1996748#post1996748) was the meltdown over semantics. Yours. That was your tantrum.

And no, the collusion of the Trump team has already been established, for a fact, by Trump Jr's Twitter disclosures. That, specifically, is why Trump's lawyer started arguing (http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-lawyer-theres-no-crime-colluding-pardons-campaign-officials-arent-table-697340) "but collusion isn't a crime!"


There is a difference between "I believe" and "I know", Ashliana. I know, I know, shocking.

Your poor comprehension of English or intellectual dishonesty only reflects on you. When someone says "I believe in evolution," they aren't speaking to an evidence-free faith in it; they're speaking to knowledge. Nobody who isn't totally full of shit sees a question: "Did the Russians interfere in the election?" with a response of "Yes, I believe they did" as a statement of faith. Try again, dipshit.

[Parkbandit]

I like to catfish. I'm also gay. And stupid. :)

We know already.

Dear Methais... next time you mention "dick pics" can you use a nickname or something? How about "snapshot of my beef wellington"?

Thank you.

[Wrathbringer]

Spoiler Alert: This (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=1996748#post1996748) was the meltdown over semantics. Yours. That was your tantrum.

And no, the collusion of the Trump team has already been established, for a fact, by Trump Jr's Twitter disclosures. That, specifically, is why Trump's lawyer started arguing (http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-lawyer-theres-no-crime-colluding-pardons-campaign-officials-arent-table-697340) "but collusion isn't a crime!"



Your poor comprehension of English or intellectual dishonesty only reflects on you. When someone says "I believe in evolution," they aren't speaking to an evidence-free faith in it; they're speaking to knowledge. Nobody who isn't totally full of shit sees a question: "Did the Russians interfere in the election?" with a response of "Yes, I believe they did" as a statement of faith. Try again, dipshit.

lol@ your rep

[Ashliana]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b6/d0/8b/b6d08b538913cf69ba2556f839a82db6--steve-buscemi-student.jpg

Don't worry, PB. Someday you'll learn what those new-fangled words those damned kids use mean.

[Parkbandit]

https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4321/36005353421_0d7f5870b2_b.jpg

Don't worry It, some poor guy will fall for it one day. Keep on trying.

[Gelston]

According to Ashliana "believe" and "know" mean the exact same thing. He says other people have a poor understanding of English.

Your poor understanding of Mattis reflects. If he knew for a fact that Russia interfered, he'd straight up say "Russia interefered with the US election." not "I believe". You are allowed to think a little bit there, Ashliana.

But yeah, you'll probably come back with your childish name calling because you realize you are incorrect, but refuse to admit it.

[Parkbandit]

According to Ashliana "believe" and "know" mean the exact same thing. He says other people have a poor understanding of English.

Your poor understanding of Mattis reflects. If he knew for a fact that Russia interfered, he'd straight up say "Russia interefered with the US election." not "I believe". You are allowed to think a little bit there, Ashliana.

I thought it was all about President Trump collusion with Russia, not just Russian interference?

[Gelston]

I thought it was all about President Trump collusion with Russia, not just Russian interference?

No, just Russian meddling with the election. He didn't say they helped Trump or that he believes they did.

[Gelston]

From the FB schills that were confirmed as Russian, they sorta promoted both Candidates with BS ads to make both sides hate each other. More to sow disorder rather than champion one clear winner.

[Parkbandit]

From the FB schills that were confirmed as Russian, they sorta promoted both Candidates with BS ads to make both sides hate each other. More to sow disorder rather than champion one clear winner.

But that doesn't explain why Hillary lost.

#FakeNews

[Ashliana]

According to Ashliana "believe" and "know" mean the exact same thing. He says other people have a poor understanding of English.

Your poor understanding of Mattis reflects. If he knew for a fact that Russia interfered, he'd straight up say "Russia interefered with the US election." not "I believe". You are allowed to think a little bit there, Ashliana.

But yeah, you'll probably come back with your childish name calling because you realize you are incorrect, but refuse to admit it.

In Gelston's parallel universe:

Reporter: "Oh, hello, Secretary of Defense, representative of our government, responsible for our security! Did a foreign adversary interfere in our election?"
Mattis: "Yes, I believe they did."
Reporter: "Oh! So you must have magical, spiritual belief that they did, and surely no evidence!"
Mattis: "But I didn't say that -- aren't you a native English sp-"
Reporter: "NO EVIDENCE. Time to report that to the PC! Herpdedeerp!"

Super convincing. You're not at all completely, irredeemably retarded.

[Archigeek]

From the FB schills that were confirmed as Russian, they sorta promoted both Candidates with BS ads to make both sides hate each other. More to sow disorder rather than champion one clear winner.

Of the ones that were confirmed and outed publicly, 1, maybe 2 could be viewed as supporting Clinton, all others supported Trump.

[Methais]

Spoiler Alert: This (http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?110469-Russia-Investigation-Heating-Up&p=1996748#post1996748) was the meltdown over semantics. Yours. That was your tantrum.

And no, the collusion of the Trump team has already been established, for a fact, by Trump Jr's Twitter disclosures. That, specifically, is why Trump's lawyer started arguing (http://www.newsweek.com/trumps-lawyer-theres-no-crime-colluding-pardons-campaign-officials-arent-table-697340) "but collusion isn't a crime!"



Your poor comprehension of English or intellectual dishonesty only reflects on you. When someone says "I believe in evolution," they aren't speaking to an evidence-free faith in it; they're speaking to knowledge. Nobody who isn't totally full of shit sees a question: "Did the Russians interfere in the election?" with a response of "Yes, I believe they did" as a statement of faith. Try again, dipshit.

If you think that was a meltdown vs. simply making fun of you, I have 3 words that you're already familiar with.

Zero. Self. Awareness.

[Parkbandit]

If you think that was a meltdown vs. simply making fun of you, I have 3 words that you're already familiar with.

Zero. Self. Awareness.

I'm going to have to take points away from you due to lack of double font enhancements. Not a single bold/italics or underline/italics or bold/underline. And don't even get me started with the TOTAL lack of the Grand Poobah of all.. the bold/underline/italics/capital.

All together, I give this effort a D-

[Gelston]

In Gelston's parallel universe:

Reporter: "Oh, hello, Secretary of Defense, representative of our government, responsible for our security! Did a foreign adversary interfere in our election?"
Mattis: "Yes, I believe they did."
Reporter: "Oh! So you must have magical, spiritual belief that they did, and surely no evidence!"
Mattis: "But I didn't say that -- aren't you a native English sp-"
Reporter: "NO EVIDENCE. Time to report that to the PC! Herpdedeerp!"

Super convincing. You're not at all completely, irredeemably retarded.

So, creating stuff. Cool. Nothing clear but you want to invent things. Hey, you can admit when you're wrong any time.

[Ashliana]

If you think that was a meltdown vs. simply making fun of you, I have 3 words that you're already familiar with.

Zero. Self. Awareness.

You debased yourself. The trigger for your tantrum is your problem, not mine.


So, creating stuff. Cool. Nothing clear but you want to invent things. Hey, you can admit when you're wrong any time.

The only one creating meaning not contained in a person's statement is you, of Mattis'. What's wrong? Has the meth usage now fully consumed your short-term memory?

[Wrathbringer]

You debased yourself. The trigger for your tantrum is your problem, not mine.



The only one creating meaning not contained in a person's statement is you, of Mattis'. What's wrong? Has the meth usage now fully consumed your short-term memory?

lol @ your rep

[Methais]

I'm going to have to take points away from you due to lack of double font enhancements. Not a single bold/italics or underline/italics or bold/underline. And don't even get me started with the TOTAL lack of the Grand Poobah of all.. the bold/underline/italics/capital.

All together, I give this effort a D-

:(

[Methais]

You debased yourself. The trigger for your tantrum is your problem, not mine.



The only one creating meaning not contained in a person's statement is you, of Mattis'. What's wrong? Has the meth usage now fully consumed your short-term memory?

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif

You don’t seem to understand what a tantrum is. Which is ironic since you’re constantly throwing them.

[Ashliana]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif

You don’t seem to understand what a tantrum is. Which is ironic since you’re constantly throwing them.

Ah, the classic "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. Best of luck with that.

[Androidpk]

https://i.imgur.com/k4UH7IA.jpg

[Methais]

Ah, the classic "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. Best of luck with that.

I accept your apology.

[ClydeR]

Trump went on the offensive over the holiday weekend. He's held back long enough, politely declining to criticize the Deep State. But no more..



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DR-c3IcUMAEc0ok.jpg

[~Rocktar~]

https://i.imgur.com/k4UH7IA.jpg

Except that in this case, they didn't use subpoenas and court orders in most cases. Next, the DNC e-mails showed their opinions and that they did cheat/collude in order to get debate questions and that they did collude to keep Bernie out. The Trump e-mails show they asked for meetings with foreign government officials and others in their position as agents of an incoming administration which is both legal, expected and widely practiced. The difference is that one shows a group intentionally trying to marginalize their own voting block and the American people and the other shows a group trying to take steps to govern.

But Hillary could probably tie you up, piss and shit down your throat and force you molest children and animals and you would still kiss her ass and thank her for the opportunity to serve.

[Latrinsorm]

If there's one thing we can all agree on it's that Andy is in LOVE with Hilary, just look at all his posts during the primaries vehemently supporting Bernie Sanders.

Okay, well aside from those, look at his posts after the primaries, when he repeatedly insisted that Hilary would and should go to actual jail.

Hm...

[Androidpk]

But Hillary could probably tie you up, piss and shit down your throat and force you molest children and animals and you would still kiss her ass and thank her for the opportunity to serve.

epic fail

[Taernath]

epic fail

In the Gorean ERP community, what he said is considered to be a compliment (I think).

[ClydeR]

“The grand jury room looks like a Bernie Sanders rally,” my source said. “Maybe they found these jurors in central casting, or at a Black Lives Matter rally in Berkeley [Calif.]”

More... (https://pagesix.com/2018/01/02/russia-probe-grand-jury-looks-like-a-black-lives-matter-rally-says-witness/)



Is it fair to Trump to have black people on the jury? That would be like having a Mexican judge. The jurors and judge need to come from a group that Trump hasn't offended. No Muslims, Mexicans, women, blacks, Asians, disabled, POWs, or transgendereds.

For some reason, this discussion of the grand jury in D.C. reminds me of that time Certain People made the ridiculous claim that the crowd at Trump's inauguration in D.C. was smaller than the crowd at Obama's inauguration in D.C.

[~Rocktar~]

epic fail

Yes, you are, glad you can admit that to yourself.

[Tsk Tsk]

Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

Bannon went on, Wolffe writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.

Bannon added: “You never see it, you never know it, because you don’t need to … But that’s the brain trust that they had.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_reddit_is_fun

[audioserf]

Sometimes I think Bannon is smart and other times I think he's just an aggressive loudmouth who isn't afraid to sound crazy so people will assume that anyone being so brazen must know what they're talking about.

[ClydeR]

Bannon remarked mockingly:



Steve who? Oh, that Steve. The low level staffer who worked somewhere in the White House for a short time. Nobody can even remember what his job was.


Statement from the President of the United States:

Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party.

Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn’t as easy as I make it look.

More... (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-03/trump-says-bannon-lost-his-mind-after-leaving-white-house)

[Methais]

Steve who? Oh, that Steve. The low level staffer who worked somewhere in the White House for a short time. Nobody can even remember what his job was.

Is this really it this time? Like super for real?

[Androidpk]

Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

Bannon went on, Wolffe writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.

:lol:

[Gelston]

Wasn't Bannon the main supporter of Roy Moore that talked Trump into basically endorsing him? Yeah, such a great guy.

[Androidpk]

Wasn't Bannon the main supporter of Roy Moore that talked Trump into basically endorsing him? Yeah, such a great guy.

He was one of the main supporters of Moore but I don't think he talked Trump into endorsing him.

[Androidpk]

And Trump's predictable response..

President Donald Trump denounced his former top strategist, Steve Bannon, on Wednesday, saying that he “lost his mind” after leaving the White House last summer.

“When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind,” Trump said of Bannon in a statement the White House issued. “Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn’t as easy as I make it look.”