Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

[Gelston]

Elon has open source and no patens on his stuff. He's that fucking cool.

There's a video of him on YouTube where he talks about it. He calls people that use patent laws, pussies.

Well, except for Tesla and SpaceX I guess. He has thousands of patents.

[SHAFT]

100k bitches

[Tgo01]

100k bitches

"I have money, you Nazis! No really, I do have money, you fucking bigots!"

You sure do seem to think you have a lot to prove to a bunch of people who you deem to be Hitler.

Also be sure to thank Trump.

[SHAFT]

"I have money, you Nazis! No really, I do have money, you fucking bigots!"

You sure do seem to think you have a lot to prove to a bunch of people who you deem to be Hitler.

Also be sure to thank Trump.

You think bitcoin needed trump to get to 100k? ��

Are you delusional, high or sub 70 iq? Combination of all? That would make sense.

I’ll check back with you when we cross 1m.

[Suppressed Poet]

You think bitcoin needed trump to get to 100k? ��

Are you delusional, high or sub 70 iq? Combination of all? That would make sense.

I’ll check back with you when we cross 1m.

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[Parkbandit]

You think bitcoin needed trump to get to 100k? ��

Are you delusional, high or sub 70 iq? Combination of all? That would make sense.

I’ll check back with you when we cross 1m.

If you believe he had nothing to do with the 30% gains since the election, you're retarded. Trump actually has a pro policy concerning crypto currencies, unlike Biden and Harris.

Here's from his platform:

Republicans will end Democrats’ unlawful and unAmerican Crypto crackdown and oppose the creation of a Central Bank
Digital Currency. We will defend the right to mine Bitcoin, and ensure every American has the right to self-custody of their
Digital Assets, and transact free from Government Surveillance and Control.


Here is from the Harris platform:


It was literally a running joke at your expense.. that since you claim you are a one issue voter and Trump is pro-crypto.. then you must be voting for Trump.

But you were just too retarded to vote correctly for your one issue.

So we did.

You're welcome.

Retard.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You think bitcoin needed trump to get to 100k?

That you don't is the irony.

[Suppressed Poet]

That you don't is the irony.

I bet Shaft believes that Paul Pelosi making millions on perfectly timed stock trades has absolutely nothing to do with being married to Nancy.

[ClydeR]

That's what I'm wondering. I see so many posts from Bluesky and it looks exactly like a post from X and I don't even realize it's a post on Bluesky until someone else points it out.



Because Twitter created Bsky before Musk bought Twitter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8dm0ljg4y6o

[Tgo01]

Because Twitter created Bsky before Musk bought Twitter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8dm0ljg4y6o

So? Do you...do you understand how this all works? Of course you don't.

Speaking of Bluesky, you might have seen a lot of articles written lately (like the dumb one Clyder linked to) talking about how fast Bluesky is growing and how it is going to be a real competitor to X, you know, just like they did with the failed Mastadon project and the mega Facebook failure of Threads.

Well Bluesky peaked at a daily active user count of roughly 1.5 million users, yesterday their daily active user count was 1.2 million, a drop of 20%. Also at the current rate Bluesky is growing they are looking at adding about 45 million accounts in a year, keep in mind probably more than half of these users will use the app once, maybe for a week, then never use the app again. But let's be generous and say 80% of these people will become active monthly users, that's roughly 36 million active users they will gain a year.

X has over 600 million monthly active users, meaning at the current rate (and keep in mind it looks like they have already peaked and are now on a downward slope) it would take over 17 years for Bluesky to outperform X. Almost 250 million people use X every single day.

tl;dr: Bluesky will most likely end up being yet another failed social media company (or at least won't ever be a major player in the social media game) even though a bunch of "celebrities" flocked to it and the media all went crazy saying how this is finally the end of X.

[ClydeR]

So? Do you...do you understand how this all works? Of course you don't.

Bsky was designed by the people who ran Twitter. They designed it how they would have designed Twitter if they could do it over, correcting the initial design mistakes. Somebody with your level of social media sophistication undoubtedly recognized multiple improved design elements the first time you used Bsky. It takes the rest of us time to understand its advantages.



Well Bluesky peaked at a daily active user count of roughly 1.5 million users, yesterday their daily active user count was 1.2 million, a drop of 20%.

How many does Truth Social have?

[Tgo01]

Bsky was designed by the people who ran Twitter. They designed it how they would have designed Twitter if they could do it over, correcting the initial design mistakes. Somebody with your level of social media sophistication undoubtedly recognized multiple improved design elements the first time you used Bsky. It takes the rest of us time to understand its advantages.

Your trolling gets more and more lame with each post. That or your dumbassery gets more and more obvious, it's hard to tell at this point.

But just in case you're capable of learning something: Just because people from Twitter created Bluesky doesn't mean they can just blatantly copy X's entire structure and run it as their own company. You think former employees of Microsoft can create their own version of windows which is almost identical to Microsoft's windows and the courts be all like "Well they are former employees! Of course it's okay!"


How many does Truth Social have?

When did anyone ever even come close to suggesting that Truth Social was going to be on the same level as Twitter/X, which was the entire point of my post?

Again just post on your main account at this point, Fallen, why even bother with the charade of pretending the Clyder persona isn't just your own thoughts and ideals at this point?

[~Rocktar~]

Bsky was designed by the people who ran Twitter. They designed it how they would have designed Twitter if they could do it over, correcting the initial design mistakes. Somebody with your level of social media sophistication undoubtedly recognized multiple improved design elements the first time you used Bsky.

Tgo01 isn't a pedo, why would he use BlueSky?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Bsky was designed by the people who ran Twitter. They designed it how they would have designed Twitter if they could do it over, correcting the initial design mistakes. Somebody with your level of social media sophistication undoubtedly recognized multiple improved design elements the first time you used Bsky. It takes the rest of us time to understand its advantages.

Are these the same people Musk fired 80% of because they were unneeded and just costly overhead? Those people?

I've never heard of Bluesky until literally the post here. I must not use technology much.

[Parkbandit]

Bsky was designed by the people who ran Twitter. They designed it how they would have designed Twitter if they could do it over, correcting the initial design mistakes. Somebody with your level of social media sophistication undoubtedly recognized multiple improved design elements the first time you used Bsky. It takes the rest of us time to understand its advantages.

It will just be a leftist echo chamber that is geared towards how much they hate Trump, child pornography, etc...

It will never catch on for most normal people.

You should feel quite at home there.


How many does Truth Social have?

"B-b-b-b-ut TRUUUUUUMP!!!!"

Imagine being this infected with TDS.

[Parkbandit]

Are these the same people Musk fired 80% of because they were unneeded and just costly overhead? Those people?

I've never heard of Bluesky until literally the post here. I must not use technology much.

You aren't the target audience... you're not gay, triggered by Trump, minor attracted or retarded.

[Gelston]

I have FB friends talking about making accounts and shit. They are all libs. Just like the other half of my FB friends made Truth social accounts.

I have an X account, but I haven't looked at it in years.

[ClydeR]

Just because people from Twitter created Bluesky doesn't mean they can just blatantly copy X's entire structure and run it as their own company. You think former employees of Microsoft can create their own version of windows which is almost identical to Microsoft's windows and the courts be all like "Well they are former employees! Of course it's okay!"


A better example would be if Microsoft created an alternate version of Windows and then put it in a separate company and then Elon Musk bought Microsoft but not the separate company.

[Tgo01]

I've never heard of Bluesky until literally the post here. I must not use technology much.

Don't worry, most people outside of far leftist circles and the traditional dying media don't even know what Bluesky is, but they are certainly trying to make it a thing.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Gelston]

A better example would be if Microsoft created an alternate version of Windows and then put it in a separate company and then Elon Musk bought Microsoft but not the separate company.

A better example would be if people from Microsoft went off on their own while employed dat Microsoft and created a different platform that was not under Microsoft and then Elon Musk bought Microsoft, but not the other company because it was, again, a completely different company.

[Suppressed Poet]

A better example would be if people from Microsoft went off on their own while employed dat Microsoft and created a different platform that was not under Microsoft and then Elon Musk bought Microsoft, but not the other company because it was, again, a completely different company.

The best example would be if Jack Dorsey took a steaming shit while working at Twitter, flushed said shit down the toilet, and then Elon Musk bought Twitter but not said shit because it was flushed down the toilet, and well, shit.

[Methais]

You think bitcoin needed trump to get to 100k? ��

Are you delusional, high or sub 70 iq? Combination of all? That would make sense.

I’ll check back with you when we cross 1m.

So weird how the chart literally went insane right after the election.

It still would have happened, but probably not until 2025 if Kamala won. Until dems like Warren got their way and shit all over crypto, because democrats are anti-crypto. Don't act like there wouldn't have been a massive dump if Kamala won. You will anyway because you're retarded and full of shit, but still. Try to have at least some self respect and stop embarrassing yourself every time you post.

BTC not hitting 1m this cycle either lol. Maybe in the 2028 bull run or even the next cycle after, but not this cycle.

I'm sure this here is just a coincidence:

https://i.imgur.com/aFZ9NDY.png


"Show me the chart and I'll tell you the news."

The news: Trump won


You probably bought Hawk Tuah coin and got rugged this week :rofl:

[Methais]

So? Do you...do you understand how this all works? Of course you don't.

Speaking of Bluesky, you might have seen a lot of articles written lately (like the dumb one Clyder linked to) talking about how fast Bluesky is growing and how it is going to be a real competitor to X, you know, just like they did with the failed Mastadon project and the mega Facebook failure of Threads.

Well Bluesky peaked at a daily active user count of roughly 1.5 million users, yesterday their daily active user count was 1.2 million, a drop of 20%. Also at the current rate Bluesky is growing they are looking at adding about 45 million accounts in a year, keep in mind probably more than half of these users will use the app once, maybe for a week, then never use the app again. But let's be generous and say 80% of these people will become active monthly users, that's roughly 36 million active users they will gain a year.

X has over 600 million monthly active users, meaning at the current rate (and keep in mind it looks like they have already peaked and are now on a downward slope) it would take over 17 years for Bluesky to outperform X. Almost 250 million people use X every single day.

tl;dr: Bluesky will most likely end up being yet another failed social media company (or at least won't ever be a major player in the social media game) even though a bunch of "celebrities" flocked to it and the media all went crazy saying how this is finally the end of X.

Bluesky is the New Coke of social media. Except it would be called Mentally Ill Coke.

[Methais]

Are these the same people Musk fired 80% of because they were unneeded and just costly overhead? Those people?

I've never heard of Bluesky until literally the post here. I must not use technology much.

It's Twitter for pedos and TDS, basically.

[Suppressed Poet]

So weird how the chart literally went insane right after the election.

It still would have happened, but probably not until 2025 if Kamala won. Until dems like Warren got their way and shit all over crypto, because democrats are anti-crypto. Don't act like there wouldn't have been a massive dump if Kamala won. You will anyway because you're retarded and full of shit, but still. Try to have at least some self respect and stop embarrassing yourself every time you post.

BTC not hitting 1m this cycle either lol. Maybe in the 2028 bull run or even the next cycle after, but not this cycle.

I'm sure this here is just a coincidence:

https://i.imgur.com/aFZ9NDY.png


"Show me the chart and I'll tell you the news."

The news: Trump won


You probably bought Hawk Tuah coin and got rugged this week :rofl:

Shaft really trusted her and wanted to be part of the “community” of Hawk Tuah fans.
https://i.yourimageshare.com/GcUPuc9r87.jpeg

[Methais]

Shaft really trusted her and wanted to be part of the “community” of Hawk Tuah fans.
https://i.yourimageshare.com/GcUPuc9r87.jpeg

Watching shaft cope so hard is some good shit.

[Gelston]

Watching shaft cope so hard is some good shit.

He is a very crappy single issue voter.

[Methais]

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[Suppressed Poet]

https://i.imgur.com/8klKMCu.png

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[Tgo01]

Also at the current rate Bluesky is growing they are looking at adding about 45 million accounts in a year

The rate of growth has already slowed to about 30 million new users a year. At this rate, assuming 100% of the new accounts all become regular monthly users, it will only take Bluesky 20 years to match the current number of active users of X.

Elon Musk must be so worried!

[Shaps]

The rate of growth has already slowed to about 30 million new users a year. At this rate, assuming 100% of the new accounts all become regular monthly users, it will only take Bluesky 20 years to match the current number of active users of X.

Elon Musk must be so worried!

Uhhh... the majority of people using Bluesky are "leftists"... they are in favor of abortion, removing their own body parts, and don't believe in reproduction. Not sure the mentally ill lemmings of the "left" have thought long term about their reproductive viability to sustain their numbers. In 20 years, they'll be deceased or have not reproduced to foster their ideology. Why do you think they want Government in so many places to allow them to make decisions about YOUR children?

Just saying.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-finding-suspected-ceo-killer-060042513.html

"Why finding the suspected CEO killer is harder than you might think"

Talk about a set-up in broad daylight... Just a couple funny pointers for you all from this article.

"It could take weeks to find and scrub through a massive array of video footage from all the places where the gunman may have traveled." - Current AI, recognition software, and computing power throughput - given a limited geographical location - it wouldn't take "weeks" - when looking for one specific individual.

"Some have portrayed the killer as a man enacting vigilante justice against a health care system they say values profits over patients’ lives, which could hinder some people’s motivation to report possible sightings of him." - The secret in this statement, though not false, presents the act/perpetrator in a positive light. It's sentence structure and delivery is designed to foster sympathy. Whether you regard it as such, or not, is not the issue... it's how it's designed to elicit that subconscious association.

"Tens of thousands of social media users mocked the death of the health insurance CEO and showed little sympathy after the killing. A post by UnitedHealthcare’s parent company mourning Thompson’s death received more than 82,000 reactions as of Friday; 76,000 of them were laughing emojis." - It's stating a fact, but again, how it's written - designed to allow you to feel okay about the killing of the individual - because, well, so many others do. People always feel "braver" in a group.

Now the fun stuff...

"An image of the suspect with his mask down – captured during a flirtatious moment with a hostel employee – is the best photo yet to help identify the suspect, authorities said. But contrary to popular belief, facial recognition software doesn’t always link a suspect’s face and identity, said Donnie Scott, CEO of IDEMIA Group, which specializes in facial recognition technology." - 1. He stayed at a Hostel 2. He interacted with real people. 3. Remember those thousands of evil Jan. 6 insurrectionists they tracked down? - Well finding one guy with more to go on, is a "lot harder" than you - the people - realize.

"Police are investigating a phone found in an alley the suspect ran through. But extracting data from a phone can be extremely difficult, depending on the model of the phone and the operating system." - I won't get into technical mishmash here, as their is some validity to this, but only for the lay-person... who thinks their information is "secure"... this is a false premise, and can be obtained. The Government has some software packages that will knock your socks off, and unless this is the most skilled, trained, and deadliest assassin on the planet - I can almost guarantee, he's not running the type of hardware/software to keep the NSA out.

"“We already have lots of forensic evidence, fingerprints, DNA evidence,” plus a “massive camera canvass” of the suspected shooter’s movements through the city, she said. But despite the plethora of evidence, finding the suspect is an arduous task, McCabe said." - Again, a true statement... but how it's designed and delivered in the article... setting people up so that this guy is never found.

If you want to really understand what I'm trying to say, read the whole article. The way it's structured is to give information, yes... but, in such a way that is designed to really imply, ehhhh.. do we really want to find him?

Subtle, yet made me chuckle this morning. Some may see it, others may not.

[Shaps]

Also, before you call me crazy.. you may want to do some research yourself. Some examples:

Google - Societal manipulation through the written word (or some variant)

1. https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-01-13-social-media-manipulation-political-actors-industrial-scale-problem-oxford-report
"Social media manipulation by political actors an industrial scale problem - Oxford report"

2. https://www.writerscookbook.com/media-uses-language-manipulate/
"How the Media Uses Language to Manipulate You"

3. https://www.arcjournals.org/pdfs/ijsell/v3-i7/3.pdf
"Language Manipulation in Media"

Just a couple starting points.

[Parkbandit]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-finding-suspected-ceo-killer-060042513.html

"Why finding the suspected CEO killer is harder than you might think"

Talk about a set-up in broad daylight... Just a couple funny pointers for you all from this article.

"It could take weeks to find and scrub through a massive array of video footage from all the places where the gunman may have traveled." - Current AI, recognition software, and computing power throughput - given a limited geographical location - it wouldn't take "weeks" - when looking for one specific individual.

"Some have portrayed the killer as a man enacting vigilante justice against a health care system they say values profits over patients’ lives, which could hinder some people’s motivation to report possible sightings of him." - The secret in this statement, though not false, presents the act/perpetrator in a positive light. It's sentence structure and delivery is designed to foster sympathy. Whether you regard it as such, or not, is not the issue... it's how it's designed to elicit that subconscious association.

"Tens of thousands of social media users mocked the death of the health insurance CEO and showed little sympathy after the killing. A post by UnitedHealthcare’s parent company mourning Thompson’s death received more than 82,000 reactions as of Friday; 76,000 of them were laughing emojis." - It's stating a fact, but again, how it's written - designed to allow you to feel okay about the killing of the individual - because, well, so many others do. People always feel "braver" in a group.

Now the fun stuff...

"An image of the suspect with his mask down – captured during a flirtatious moment with a hostel employee – is the best photo yet to help identify the suspect, authorities said. But contrary to popular belief, facial recognition software doesn’t always link a suspect’s face and identity, said Donnie Scott, CEO of IDEMIA Group, which specializes in facial recognition technology." - 1. He stayed at a Hostel 2. He interacted with real people. 3. Remember those thousands of evil Jan. 6 insurrectionists they tracked down? - Well finding one guy with more to go on, is a "lot harder" than you - the people - realize.

"Police are investigating a phone found in an alley the suspect ran through. But extracting data from a phone can be extremely difficult, depending on the model of the phone and the operating system." - I won't get into technical mishmash here, as their is some validity to this, but only for the lay-person... who thinks their information is "secure"... this is a false premise, and can be obtained. The Government has some software packages that will knock your socks off, and unless this is the most skilled, trained, and deadliest assassin on the planet - I can almost guarantee, he's not running the type of hardware/software to keep the NSA out.

"“We already have lots of forensic evidence, fingerprints, DNA evidence,” plus a “massive camera canvass” of the suspected shooter’s movements through the city, she said. But despite the plethora of evidence, finding the suspect is an arduous task, McCabe said." - Again, a true statement... but how it's designed and delivered in the article... setting people up so that this guy is never found.

If you want to really understand what I'm trying to say, read the whole article. The way it's structured is to give information, yes... but, in such a way that is designed to really imply, ehhhh.. do we really want to find him?

Subtle, yet made me chuckle this morning. Some may see it, others may not.

The number of leftists who claim "This guy deserved to be assassinated" is honestly surprising to me.

Like when did they just become so disconnected with human lives?

I get it: No one hates insurance more than I do. I don't get it, I don't understand it, I don't like it. This was never more highlighted than during the last 2 hurricanes that struck the Tampa area. 3 homes.. all had hurricane insurance.. 1 home got TRIPLE the amount that was needed to rebuild. One barely got enough to cover the repairs.. and one got nothing because their insurance company claimed it was caused by flooding (from the hurricane) and not the hurricane itself.

No one hates insurance more than I do.

But no one deserves to be assassinated on the street because they work for an insurance company.

Some of you fuckers need some morals in your life.

[Gelston]

The rate of growth has already slowed to about 30 million new users a year. At this rate, assuming 100% of the new accounts all become regular monthly users, it will only take Bluesky 20 years to match the current number of active users of X.

Elon Musk must be so worried!

It is no different than Truth Social was for the right wingers. It'll fade away into LOL remember that stupid shit?

[Gelston]

The number of leftists who claim "This guy deserved to be assassinated" is honestly surprising to me.

Like when did they just become so disconnected with human lives?

I get it: No one hates insurance more than I do. I don't get it, I don't understand it, I don't like it. This was never more highlighted than during the last 2 hurricanes that struck the Tampa area. 3 homes.. all had hurricane insurance.. 1 home got TRIPLE the amount that was needed to rebuild. One barely got enough to cover the repairs.. and one got nothing because their insurance company claimed it was caused by flooding (from the hurricane) and not the hurricane itself.

No one hates insurance more than I do.

But no one deserves to be assassinated on the street because they work for an insurance company.

Some of you fuckers need some morals in your life.

The more coming out about him, the more shitty he was as a human being. He put in place an AI to automatically deny claims. That said, he shouldn't have been murdered... Although he was sorta responsible for handing down death sentences himself when you think about it.

I don't know, I'm sure that insurance company is about to lose a bunch of money and accounts.

[~Rocktar~]

I have worked for one of this guy's competing insurance companies. I am going to type something up about medical insurance, a lot of which will apply to any insurance. Suffice it to say, most people don't know shit about insurance companies and how they work and it's the most regulated industry on the planet short of maybe nuclear power.

[Gelston]

I have worked for one of this guy's competing insurance companies. I am going to type something up about medical insurance, a lot of which will apply to any insurance. Suffice it to say, most people don't know shit about insurance companies and how they work and it's the most regulated industry on the planet short of maybe nuclear power.

Insurance in and of itself is a shady fucking business, regardless.

[Suppressed Poet]

The more coming out about him, the more shitty he was as a human being. He put in place an AI to automatically deny claims. That said, he shouldn't have been murdered... Although he was sorta responsible for handing down death sentences himself when you think about it.

I don't know, I'm sure that insurance company is about to lose a bunch of money and accounts.

It’s telling how so many people are celebrating that man’s death and praise the criminal for his actions like a martyr.

Health insurance is a hated industry. I get it. Most people would agree greed and corruption do exist in our healthcare system. I also get the victim was no saint. Nobody should be gunned down in the streets like that. That’s not how we do things in America. That man was also a human being with a family. We still don’t know (as I write this) the identity or motives of the criminal, but I find it alarming how many people on social media are so quick to say Brian Thompson deserved what happened.

Not directed at you in anyway nor is this some sort of virtue signaling. Just sharing my observations. It’s a symptom of the internal sickness of our crumbling society and the abandonment of our morals and principles.

[Suppressed Poet]

The number of leftists who claim "This guy deserved to be assassinated" is honestly surprising to me.

Like when did they just become so disconnected with human lives?

I get it: No one hates insurance more than I do. I don't get it, I don't understand it, I don't like it. This was never more highlighted than during the last 2 hurricanes that struck the Tampa area. 3 homes.. all had hurricane insurance.. 1 home got TRIPLE the amount that was needed to rebuild. One barely got enough to cover the repairs.. and one got nothing because their insurance company claimed it was caused by flooding (from the hurricane) and not the hurricane itself.

No one hates insurance more than I do.

But no one deserves to be assassinated on the street because they work for an insurance company.

Some of you fuckers need some morals in your life.

Agreed. I posted similar thoughts/comments before reading yours, but ditto. Sure looks like we have the minority opinion from what I’ve seen on the cesspool that is social media.

[Suppressed Poet]

It is no different than Truth Social was for the right wingers. It'll fade away into LOL remember that stupid shit?

I’m not really active in social media (unless you count the PC), but who wants to live in an echo chamber with repeated propaganda from one side of the political spectrum? I don’t understand the appeal, but it does exist. I think both Truth Social and Blue Sky have a market, but it will never be as prevalent as a dominant social media platform that strives to be neutral or apolitical.

[Methais]

You think bitcoin needed trump to get to 100k? ��

Are you delusional, high or sub 70 iq? Combination of all? That would make sense.

I’ll check back with you when we cross 1m.

https://i.imgur.com/4zWJF16.png (https://x.com/AbsGMCrypto/status/1865153374296928470)
https://x.com/AbsGMCrypto/status/1865153374296928470

You voted for more of this. Because you're stupid.

[Parkbandit]

Insurance in and of itself is a shady fucking business, regardless.

10000%

[Parkbandit]

https://i.imgur.com/4zWJF16.png (https://x.com/AbsGMCrypto/status/1865153374296928470)
https://x.com/AbsGMCrypto/status/1865153374296928470

You voted for more of this. Because you're stupid.

Bitcoin is up some 50% since the election... but Shaftmeintheass is like "Its jus't a coincidence!"

[~Rocktar~]

I have worked for one of this guy's competing insurance companies. I am going to type something up about medical insurance, a lot of which will apply to any insurance. Suffice it to say, most people don't know shit about insurance companies and how they work and it's the most regulated industry on the planet short of maybe nuclear power.

Go see my reply on this thread:http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?137946-About-medical-insurance&p=2313719#post2313719

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The number of leftists who claim "This guy deserved to be assassinated" is honestly surprising to me.

Like when did they just become so disconnected with human lives?

I get it: No one hates insurance more than I do. I don't get it, I don't understand it, I don't like it. This was never more highlighted than during the last 2 hurricanes that struck the Tampa area. 3 homes.. all had hurricane insurance.. 1 home got TRIPLE the amount that was needed to rebuild. One barely got enough to cover the repairs.. and one got nothing because their insurance company claimed it was caused by flooding (from the hurricane) and not the hurricane itself.

No one hates insurance more than I do.

But no one deserves to be assassinated on the street because they work for an insurance company.

Some of you fuckers need some morals in your life.

I'll start with by saying I have plenty of morals and don't *think* I'd kill the CEO of some shady insurance company - UNLESS - my wife died because of their policies. Then I have no idea what I'd do.

I can see how someone could be run around by the insurance company he made policy at to the point that they placed all the blame on this individual, hunted him down and killed him.

Talk about the morals of the CEO now, and his AI that was wrong 90% of the time. Talk about how his company denies claims at a 2x or 3x rate above the next worst denier. He was no saint.

[Gelston]

I'll start with by saying I have plenty of morals and don't *think* I'd kill the CEO of some shady insurance company - UNLESS - my wife died because of their policies. Then I have no idea what I'd do.

I can see how someone could be run around by the insurance company he made policy at to the point that they placed all the blame on this individual, hunted him down and killed him.

Talk about the morals of the CEO now, and his AI that was wrong 90% of the time. Talk about how his company denies claims at a 2x or 3x rate above the next worst denier. He was no saint.

The more I've read about the guy, the crappier a person he seems to be.

[Parkbandit]

I'll start with by saying I have plenty of morals and don't *think* I'd kill the CEO of some shady insurance company - UNLESS - my wife died because of their policies. Then I have no idea what I'd do.

I can see how someone could be run around by the insurance company he made policy at to the point that they placed all the blame on this individual, hunted him down and killed him.

Talk about the morals of the CEO now, and his AI that was wrong 90% of the time. Talk about how his company denies claims at a 2x or 3x rate above the next worst denier. He was no saint.

I'm no saint.. but I'm just sick of all the people saying this guy got what he deserved and "we" should go after all the CEOs that we don't like.. like Chipotle's CEO because he just announced a 2% price hike.

Don't like what this CEO was doing? Sue him. Take him to court. Make him pay the legal way.

You don't go outside his hotel and shoot him in the back like a cowardly little beta bitch.

[Gelston]

I'm no saint.. but I'm just sick of all the people saying this guy got what he deserved and "we" should go after all the CEOs that we don't like.. like Chipotle's CEO because he just announced a 2% price hike.

Don't like what this CEO was doing? Sue him. Take him to court. Make him pay the legal way.

You don't go outside his hotel and shoot him in the back like a cowardly little beta bitch.

I think it is a bit different. I don't think overcharging on Chipotle is causing people to die due to not getting Doctor prescribed medication. And lets not act like these people are freeloaders, they've been paying premiums for years.

Not saying it was the right thing to do, hell, even Hitler would have gotten a trial, but I can understand it.

[Parkbandit]

I think it is a bit different. I don't think overcharging on Chipotle is causing people to die due to not getting Doctor prescribed medication. And lets not act like these people are freeloaders, they've been paying premiums for years.

Not saying it was the right thing to do, hell, even Hitler would have gotten a trial, but I can understand it.

I'm not saying it's not different.. but it's all over my Instagram feed every morning.. scrolling names of the CEOs of other companies... how this CEO raised the prices of food "You know what to do".. etc..

[Gelston]

I'm not saying it's not different.. but it's all over my Instagram feed every morning.. scrolling names of the CEOs of other companies... how this CEO raised the prices of food "You know what to do".. etc..

Oh, yeah, I've got a few of those. Some people are trying to push a full-on class warfare. It's retarded.

[ClydeR]

Lara Trump will step down as co-chair of the Republican National Committee as she considers a number of potential options with her father-in-law, President-elect Donald Trump, set to return to the White House.

Among those possibilities is replacing Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, whom Trump tapped to be the next secretary of state. If Rubio is confirmed, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis will choose who takes the seat through the remainder of Rubio’s term, which expires in 2026.

“It is something I would seriously consider,” she told The Associated Press in an interview.

More... (https://apnews.com/article/lara-trump-rnc-florida-senate-d0b9102b1095c383173bd6e24bbca015)


In 2021, Lara Trump was telling people (https://www.newsweek.com/lara-trump-confirms-eyeing-senate-seat-north-carolina-1579466) that she was a resident of North Carolina so that she could run for a vacant Senate seat there.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm not saying it's not different.. but it's all over my Instagram feed every morning.. scrolling names of the CEOs of other companies... how this CEO raised the prices of food "You know what to do".. etc..

Yeah, that is stupid. I also don't agree with him being murdered, just saying I can see how people could get there. Like I said, do something that hurts my wife and I have no idea what I might do. Probably nothing because I don't think I'm a murderer, but I guess it depends on how egregious the person or entity who did it was.

[Gelston]

Yeah, that is stupid. I also don't agree with him being murdered, just saying I can see how people could get there. Like I said, do something that hurts my wife and I have no idea what I might do. Probably nothing because I don't think I'm a murderer, but I guess it depends on how egregious the person or entity who did it was.

My time working in then Parish Jail, there are a lot of people that did things they never thought they'd do. You just have to be in the situation I guess.

[Risen]

The number of leftists who claim "This guy deserved to be assassinated" is honestly surprising to me.

Like when did they just become so disconnected with human lives?

I get it: No one hates insurance more than I do. I don't get it, I don't understand it, I don't like it. This was never more highlighted than during the last 2 hurricanes that struck the Tampa area. 3 homes.. all had hurricane insurance.. 1 home got TRIPLE the amount that was needed to rebuild. One barely got enough to cover the repairs.. and one got nothing because their insurance company claimed it was caused by flooding (from the hurricane) and not the hurricane itself.

No one hates insurance more than I do.

But no one deserves to be assassinated on the street because they work for an insurance company.

Some of you fuckers need some morals in your life.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Parkbandit again."

Damn it! 100% correct.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'll start with by saying I have plenty of morals and don't *think* I'd kill the CEO of some shady insurance company - UNLESS - my wife died because of their policies. Then I have no idea what I'd do.

I can see how someone could be run around by the insurance company he made policy at to the point that they placed all the blame on this individual, hunted him down and killed him.

Talk about the morals of the CEO now, and his AI that was wrong 90% of the time. Talk about how his company denies claims at a 2x or 3x rate above the next worst denier. He was no saint.

I think people are jumping to conclusions before knowing the facts / evidence of the crime & applying hypothetical situations to this real world event.

We don’t yet know the identity or motives of the murderer. We don’t yet know to what extent this was premeditated / planned. It could be a disgruntled employee, or a hired hitman, or a person that had a family member denied for medical care. We simply don’t know yet. It takes time to gather the evidence and complete an investigation.

In the event that the shooter did have a very strong motivation to murder that man and the victim is in fact a vile greedy piece of shit, it’s still cold blooded murder. The public may sympathize with the criminal as a martyr, but he should still be held accountable for breaking the law. Instead of murdering the CEO on the streets, it would be much more honorable for a man to dedicate his life to making a positive change in our healthcare system the legal way. Murder is for pussies.

[Gelston]

I think people are jumping to conclusions before knowing the facts / evidence of the crime & applying hypothetical situations to this real world event.

We don’t yet know the identity or motives of the murderer. We don’t yet know to what extent this was premeditated / planned. It could be a disgruntled employee, or a hired hitman, or a person that had a family member denied for medical care. We simply don’t know yet. It takes time to gather the evidence and complete an investigation.

In the event that the shooter did have a very strong motivation to murder that man and the victim is in fact a vile greedy piece of shit, it’s still cold blooded murder. The public may sympathize with the criminal as a martyr, but he should still be held accountable for breaking the law. Instead of murdering the CEO on the streets, it would be much more honorable for a man to dedicate his life to making a positive change in our healthcare system the legal way. Murder is for pussies.

The CEO had, apparently, some shady shit going on. He was involved with a Federal lawsuit for insider trading, and who knows what else his fingers may have been in. It could have absolutely nothing to do with insurance denials, I agree.

Also, you are against the guy that killed the man in the airport that raped and kidnapped his son? He is a pussy?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think murder is totally reasonable in some situations. I've never said the murderer in this case should be seen as a hero nor that he shouldn't pay for his crimes, either.

Like the example Gelston just gave, I'd say justified, and the father who did it should get some community service.

[Suppressed Poet]

The CEO had, apparently, some shady shit going on. He was involved with a Federal lawsuit for insider trading, and who knows what else his fingers may have been in. It could have absolutely nothing to do with insurance denials, I agree.

Also, you are against the guy that killed the man in the airport that raped and kidnapped his son? He is a pussy?

I am against murder, yes. I assume you are referring to Gary Plauche. As a father I can sympathize with that man, but that doesn’t justify his actions of taking the law into his own hands & murdering that person in the airport. Only God can judge on the morality of that situation, but he should have and did face legal consequences. Vigilante justice is not real justice.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Vigilante justice is not real justice.

Disagree.

[Gelston]

I am against murder, yes. I assume you are referring to Gary Plauche. As a father I can sympathize with that man, but that doesn’t justify his actions of taking the law into his own hands & murdering that person in the airport. Only God can judge on the morality of that situation, but he should have and did face legal consequences. Vigilante justice is not real justice.

Oh, it is real justice. It might not be legal, but it isn't fake.

[Suppressed Poet]

Disagree.

Vigilante justice is revenge.

A foundation of justice is that it is blind (impartial). If you remove the core pillar, you don’t have justice.

Let’s take another example, the George Floyd murder and its aftermath. Some people, as you know, will say that the violent actions of protesters/ rioters are justified. You and I would agree that it is not.

The moment you begin to allow people to take the law into their own hand is the moment you give into mob rule. You want our society to devolve into something resembling The Reign of Terror (post revolutionary France)?

[Suppressed Poet]

Oh, it is real justice. It might not be legal, but it isn't fake.

Short video from the film Hateful Eight that explains difference. I say it isn’t real justice because the key element of impartialness is removed, and that makes it vengeance. Great Christmas movie by the way.


https://youtu.be/HYLLoG8zd74?si=q9HFKZQrn9EJGEWw

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Vigilante justice is revenge.

A foundation of justice is that it is blind (impartial). If you remove the core pillar, you don’t have justice.

Let’s take another example, the George Floyd murder and its aftermath. Some people, as you know, will say that the violent actions of protesters/ rioters are justified. You and I would agree that it is not.

The moment you begin to allow people to take the law into their own hand is the moment you give into mob rule. You want our society to devolve into something resembling The Reign of Terror (post revolutionary France)?

Justice is revenge, prove me wrong.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'll go a little further to show I'm not trolling. Justice is simply a "civilized" form of revenge, institutionalized to maintain order. Friedrich Nietzsche, for example, suggested that societal justice emerged from the same instinct as revenge but was tempered by collective interests.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'll go a little further to show I'm not trolling. Justice is simply a "civilized" form of revenge, institutionalized to maintain order. Friedrich Nietzsche, for example, suggested that societal justice emerged from the same instinct as revenge but was tempered by collective interests.

Revenge is intended to inflict harm. Justice is intended to right wrongs.

Don’t you guys read the Batman comics or watch the films / animated series?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

If I smoke a pedophile, I just righted a lot of wrongs.

[Suppressed Poet]

If I smoke a pedophile, I just righted a lot of wrongs.

I despise pedophiles just as much as you do, but let’s explore that.

Excluding self defense (preventing imminent & immediate serious bodily harm), smoking a pedophile would be murder & make you a murderer. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s not for you alone to decide a man’s fate or take his life. Civilization has law & order for good reason. I don’t feel like these are hard concepts or explaining why vigilantism is harmful to society is controversial.

A pedophile should stand trial and be severely punished for their crimes. Everyone, including the worst criminals, deserve and have a right to their day in court. I support the death penalty for sexual abuse of a child.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I don’t feel like these are hard concepts or explaining why vigilantism is harmful to society are controversial.

I don't. Some people deserve to die, and that is justice (going back to your original argument that justice and revenge are not the same thing).

[Gelston]

I despise pedophiles just as much as you do, but let’s explore that.

Excluding self defense (preventing imminent & immediate serious bodily harm), smoking a pedophile would be murder & make you a murderer. Two wrongs don’t make a right. It’s not for you alone to decide a man’s fate or take his life. Civilization has law & order for good reason. I don’t feel like these are hard concepts or explaining why vigilantism is harmful to society is controversial.

A pedophile should stand trial and be severely punished for their crimes. Everyone, including the worst criminals, deserve and have a right to their day in court. I support the death penalty for sexual abuse of a child.

Oh, but if the state says I can kill the pedophile, it isn't murder but justice.

[Suppressed Poet]

I don't. Some people deserve to die, and that is justice (going back to your original argument that justice and revenge are not the same thing).

Some people deserve to die, no doubt. How that happens and who does it matters.

Do you believe in due process as a fundamental right to everyone in our country?

[Suppressed Poet]

Oh, but if the state says I can kill the pedophile, it isn't murder but justice.

If the state finds the pedophile guilty with a jury trial, the convicted pedophile is sentenced to death, and the execution is carried out in accordance with the law…that is justice.

[Parkbandit]

I don't. Some people deserve to die, and that is justice (going back to your original argument that justice and revenge are not the same thing).

But there is no law or court to decide guilt or innocence.

Let's take the Hero of Kenosha for instance. If there was no eye witnesses or video of what happened.. and he was overcome by the mob and killed, that murder would not have been right, but you had people that to this day would say it would have been.

It took a court of law and the evidence to prove he was innocent.

Mob justice is rarely true justice.

[Gelston]

If the state finds the pedophile guilty with a jury trial, the convicted pedophile is sentenced to death, and the execution is carried out in accordance with the law…that is justice.

Okay, so as long as 12 people agree with me, it is fine.

[Parkbandit]

Okay, so as long as 12 people agree with me, it is fine.

12 jurors, 1 judge, 3 appeals court judges, the governor, etc..

[Suppressed Poet]

Okay, so as long as 12 people agree with me, it is fine.

Due process matters.

Aren’t you a LEO or prison guard of some type? I’m surprised to find you arguing on the side that it’s ok for people to take the law into their own hands.

[Gelston]

Due process matters.

Aren’t you a LEO or prison guard of some type? I’m surprised to find you arguing on the side that it’s ok for people to take the law into their own hands.

I've said multiple times that I think everyone deserves their day in court.

[Gelston]

12 jurors, 1 judge, 3 appeals court judges, the governor, etc..

Well no, it only takes 12 to say "Not guilty"

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

But there is no law or court to decide guilt or innocence.

Let's take the Hero of Kenosha for instance. If there was no eye witnesses or video of what happened.. and he was overcome by the mob and killed, that murder would not have been right, but you had people that to this day would say it would have been.

It took a court of law and the evidence to prove he was innocent.

Mob justice is rarely true justice.


12 jurors, 1 judge, 3 appeals court judges, the governor, etc..


Due process matters.

Aren’t you a LEO or prison guard of some type? I’m surprised to find you arguing on the side that it’s ok for people to take the law into their own hands.

Again, the argument being discussed here is that revenge and justice aren't the same. They are, revenge is just expedited.

[Gelston]

Speaking of, Daniel Penny was found not guilty of the lesser charge of Negligent Homicide today in a unanimous decision by the jury. This is after the higher charge of second degree manslaughter was dismissed on Friday.

I'm sure Seran is fuming now, because his democratic overlords said he needed to be punished severely.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Adjacently related, we have a company "all hands" in person meeting this week and they just announced there will be metal detectors and security checks (and no bags/backpacks allowed) at the event. First time in 20 years that's happened.

[Suppressed Poet]

Again, the argument being discussed here is that revenge and justice aren't the same. They are, revenge is just expedited.

Disagree.

Justice is about maintaining balance & fairness in society.

Vengeance / revenge is retaliation for a personal wrongdoing.

Batman is a hero that seeks justice. The Punisher is a villain (or some would say antihero) that seeks vengeance. They are not ethically the same.

[Suppressed Poet]

Speaking of, Daniel Penny was found not guilty of the lesser charge of Negligent Homicide today in a unanimous decision by the jury. This is after the higher charge of second degree manslaughter was dismissed on Friday.

I'm sure Seran is fuming now, because his democratic overlords said he needed to be punished severely.

Good. Justice was served today.

[Gelston]

Batman is a hero that seeks justice. The Punisher is a villain (or some would say antihero) that seeks vengeance. They are not ethically the same.

And both of them are fake.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

maintaining balance & fairness in society.

Sounds like some faggot liberal spunk got in your mouth.

[Parkbandit]

Again, the argument being discussed here is that revenge and justice aren't the same. They are, revenge is just expedited.

So let's take Daniel Penny.

Today, a jury said he was innocent.

His family believes otherwise.

Is it justice for Jordan Neely's father go shoot Daniel Penny in the back for killing his son?

[Gelston]

So let's take Daniel Penny.

Today, a jury said he was innocent.

His family believes otherwise.

Is it justice for Jordan Neely's father go shoot Daniel Penny in the back for killing his son?

Everyone has their personal view of justice. For Neely's father, that would be justice. I'm sure right now Neely's friends and family feel a great injustice has been done to them by the courts.

[Parkbandit]

And both of them are fake.

HOW DARE YOU!?

[Parkbandit]

Sounds like some faggot liberal spunk got in your mouth.

LOL

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So let's take Daniel Penny.

Today, a jury said he was innocent.

His family believes otherwise.

Is it justice for Jordan Neely's father go shoot Daniel Penny in the back for killing his son?

I've stated this entire time there is no difference between justice and revenge. You call it revenge if Jordan Neely's father kills Penny. His father would call it justice.

Is it justice that Trump was found guilty of supposedly raping some chick ages ago, or revenge? Is it justice that Trump was charged with election crimes or revenge? All a matter of opinion.

[Parkbandit]

Everyone has their personal view of justice. For Neely's father, that would be justice. I'm sure right now Neely's friends and family feel a great injustice has been done to them by the courts.

That would be revenge.

Justice is outward-facing and considers the broader good, while revenge is inward-facing and driven by personal emotions.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

That would be revenge.

Justice is outward-facing and considers the broader good, while revenge is inward-facing and driven by personal emotions.

So Trump being charged and found guilty of whatever it was in NY was justice?

[Suppressed Poet]

Sounds like some faggot liberal spunk got in your mouth.

Call it whatever you like.

If you prefer to live in a country where everyone takes the law into their own hands and the mob rules the day, there are plenty of shithole Shiria law Islamic State war zones you can choose from. Our justice system is far from perfect, but still the best in the world.

[Parkbandit]

I've stated this entire time there is no difference between justice and revenge. You call it revenge if Jordan Neely's father kills Penny. His father would call it justice.

Those 2 terms aren't interchangeable though. One is societal and the other is personal.


Is it justice that Trump was found guilty of supposedly raping some chick ages ago, or revenge? Is it justice that Trump was charged with election crimes or revenge? All a matter of opinion.

Trump was never found guilty of raping anyone.. he was found liable for defamation of the chick that alleged he sexually assaulted her.

And charges against Trump aren't the same as a conviction.

[Parkbandit]

So Trump being charged and found guilty of whatever it was in NY was justice?

Yes.

Whether it was right or wrong is an opinion, but he was charged and found guilty in a court of law.

[Gelston]

That would be revenge.

Justice is outward-facing and considers the broader good, while revenge is inward-facing and driven by personal emotions.

Again, it is all point of view based. Neely's side would likely consider it to be righting a wrong and restoring what they consider a balance.

Penny's side would consider it revenge.

Terrorists to us may be freedom fighters to others, blah blah blah, philosophical debate.

[Suppressed Poet]

And both of them are fake.

Obviously, yes. I’m attempting to find a simple example that we can all understand to describe the difference between justice and vengeance.

[Suppressed Poet]

Again, it is all point of view based. Neely's side would likely consider it to be righting a wrong and restoring what they consider a balance.

Penny's side would consider it revenge.

Terrorists to us may be freedom fighters to others, blah blah blah, philosophical debate.

And that is why we have a justice system that strives to be impartial, fair, and balanced.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Terrorists to us may be freedom fighters to others, blah blah blah, philosophical debate.

Pretty much what I've been saying. Also revenge is faster.

[Gelston]

And it appears the way Neely's dad is trying to get justice is by suing Penny.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yes.

Whether it was right or wrong is an opinion, but he was charged and found guilty in a court of law.

I'd call it a miscarriage of justice, abuse of the justice system and a revenge tour by liberal AGs who don't like Trump.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Our justice system is far from perfect, but still the best in the world.

Never claimed otherwise. Why do you keep going on tangents not germane to the debate?

[Parkbandit]

Again, it is all point of view based. Neely's side would likely consider it to be righting a wrong and restoring what they consider a balance.

Penny's side would consider it revenge.

Terrorists to us may be freedom fighters to others, blah blah blah, philosophical debate.

Neely's side may consider it "justice" but it's not since "justice" was found in the court of law.

This would be revenge, plain and simple.. because it's personal and not societal.

Anyone can use any word they want.. doesn't mean the word is the correct one in that instance.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Neely's side may consider it "justice" but it's not since "justice" was found in the court of law.

This would be revenge, plain and simple.. because it's personal and not societal.

Anyone can use any word they want.. doesn't mean the word is the correct one in that instance.

In both cases, the goal is identical: to address the harm caused by the offender and restore balance. Revenge is a personal, immediate action, while justice is the societal, structured version of the same impulse to correct a wrong. The methods differ, but the underlying purpose—making things right—is the same.

[Suppressed Poet]

Never claimed otherwise. Why do you keep going on tangents not germane to the debate?

I’m not. Vengeance or vigilante justice or revenge or whatever you want to call it completely bypasses our judicial system. You say they are the same. I’m saying it’s not.

[Parkbandit]

In both cases, the goal is identical: to address the harm caused by the offender and restore balance. Revenge is a personal, immediate action, while justice is the societal, structured version of the same impulse to correct a wrong. The methods differ, but the underlying purpose—making things right—is the same.

I don't disagree... but as you said, there is a distinct difference between "Justice" and "Revenge" and that is my point.

[Suppressed Poet]

In both cases, the goal is identical: to address the harm caused by the offender and restore balance. Revenge is a personal, immediate action, while justice is the societal, structured version of the same impulse to correct a wrong. The methods differ, but the underlying purpose—making things right—is the same.

The methods matter and make the two distinct different.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'd call it a miscarriage of justice, abuse of the justice system and a revenge tour by liberal AGs who don't like Trump.

I don’t necessarily disagree, but have you thought about why you think that? It’s clear to me that Trump was being selectively targeted for politics. It’s a miscarriage of justice when the law is not applied evenly and fairly. Again, that balance and fairness is a key component of justice where as revenge is rarely ever balanced, impartial, or fair.

[Suppressed Poet]

Again, it is all point of view based. Neely's side would likely consider it to be righting a wrong and restoring what they consider a balance.

Penny's side would consider it revenge.

Terrorists to us may be freedom fighters to others, blah blah blah, philosophical debate.

Are we going to have a discussion now about moral relativity, or do we acknowledge and accept that we live in a country guided by Christian values and Western philosophy?

https://i.imgur.com/UBEqFhy.gif

[Gelston]

Are we going to have a discussion now about moral relativity, or do we acknowledge and accept that we live in a country guided by Christian values and Western philosophy?

https://i.imgur.com/UBEqFhy.gif

Do you want to? I'm finished eating lunch so I'm probably not going to look back on here again until tomorrow.

[Suppressed Poet]

Do you want to? I'm finished eating lunch so I'm probably not going to look back on here again until tomorrow.

Sure. Respond tomorrow or whenever.

I’m of the opinion morals do not change based on a person’s point of view or culture. There is right and there is wrong.

[Tgo01]

And it appears the way Neely's dad is trying to get justice is by suing Penny.

He was so hoping Penny would be found guilty of some crime because then it would be pretty much a slam dunk for him to win the civil trial.

Only way he is going to win a civil trial now is if he gets some very far leftist judge/jury.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

He was so hoping Penny would be found guilty of some crime because then it would be pretty much a slam dunk for him to win the civil trial.

Only way he is going to win a civil trial now is if he gets some very far leftist judge/jury.

Unless he has some hidden away money, Neely not gonna get anything if he wins. Penny needs to write a book and become a fox news analyst and capitalize on his notoriety right now. Maybe run for congress.

[Parkbandit]

He was so hoping Penny would be found guilty of some crime because then it would be pretty much a slam dunk for him to win the civil trial.

Only way he is going to win a civil trial now is if he gets some very far leftist judge/jury.

So.. Neely was a homeless and troubled individual when he died...

Where was his father then?

[Methais]

BLM is calling for "vigilante justice" now.

Gotta get that last minute Christmas rioting in before Trump is back in the White House.

[Parkbandit]

BLM is calling for "vigilante justice" now.

Gotta get that last minute Christmas rioting in before Trump is back in the White House.

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[Gelston]

UnitedHealth stock has dropped over 15% since November 11th, dropped 5.6% just on Wednesday alone.

Congress is always looking into drug profits, so that is hurting all of the insurance industry as well.

[Shaps]

UnitedHealth stock has dropped over 15% since November 11th, dropped 5.6% just on Wednesday alone.

Congress is always looking into drug profits, so that is hurting all of the insurance industry as well.

One simple fix in the US... do not allow any ads for pharmaceuticals.

"Most countries don't allow direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising (DTCPA), including:

Europe: The European Union (EU) voted against DTCPA in 2008. The European Parliament Committee on the Environment, Public Health and Food Safety assessed that the pharmaceutical industry could not be trusted to provide impartial information.

South America, Asia, Africa, and Mexico: These regions don't allow DTCPA.
Australia: It's illegal to advertise prescription drugs in Australia, including on the internet.

Microblog: The US and NZ Are the Only Countries That Allow ...
The only countries that allow DTCPA are the United States and New Zealand. In the U.S., pharmaceutical companies spent $6.58 billion on drug ads in 2020, more than 10-fold the amount spent in 1996."

[ClydeR]

Somebody will be furious about this..


https://i.imgur.com/kWJt3Yt.png
https://twitter.com/donaldtusk/status/1867280393151689000 (https://twitter.com/donaldtusk/status/1867280393151689000)

[Tgo01]

The rate of growth has already slowed to about 30 million new users a year.

Uh-oh. Bluesky's rate of growth has already slowed to 23 million new users a year.

The rate of growth has been cut in half in just a week.

The next X killer! LOL

Honestly the only reason I keep checking the rate of growth of Bluesky is because the media keeps trying to make it a thing and every time I see a new article talking about how it's going to replace X I just have to check to see how the rate of growth of Bluesky is, and every time it's on a downward trend.

At this rate Bluesky is going to go bankrupt within a year or two.

[Gelston]

Uh-oh. Bluesky's rate of growth has already slowed to 23 million new users a year.

The rate of growth has been cut in half in just a week.

The next X killer! LOL

Honestly the only reason I keep checking the rate of growth of Bluesky is because the media keeps trying to make it a thing and every time I see a new article talking about how it's going to replace X I just have to check to see how the rate of growth of Bluesky is, and every time it's on a downward trend.

At this rate Bluesky is going to go bankrupt within a year or two.

I don't even see anyone talking about it on FB anymore. Truth Social's buzz lasted a lot longer it seems.

[Tgo01]

I don't even see anyone talking about it on FB anymore. Truth Social's buzz lasted a lot longer it seems.

Yeah it's pretty laughable. It seems just the media and celebrities are still trying to make it a thing. Some celebrities are posting on X practically begging people to follow them on Bluesky. Kind of sad and pathetic really.

[Tgo01]

Bernie Sanders wants to slap a 100% tax rate on income over 1 billion dollars to make sure "greedy billionaires pay their fair share."

Sure is strange how his crusade against millionaires and billionaires became a crusade against just billionaires once Bernie himself became a millionaire.

Elon Musk should give Bernie a billion dollars just to watch Bernie Sanders drop his crusade altogether.

The really sad part is people still believe what Sanders has to say and doesn't realize or just refuses to believe that the guy is a giant fraud and hypocrite.

[~Rocktar~]

Bernie Sanders wants to slap a 100% tax rate on income over 1 billion dollars to make sure "greedy billionaires pay their fair share."

Sure is strange how his crusade against millionaires and billionaires became a crusade against just billionaires once Bernie himself became a millionaire.

Elon Musk should give Bernie a billion dollars just to watch Bernie Sanders drop his crusade altogether.

The really sad part is people still believe what Sanders has to say and doesn't realize or just refuses to believe that the guy is a giant fraud and hypocrite.

It's a pointless gesture and he knows it. Billionaires don't have "income", they have net worth. Not even Musk draws in a billion a year in "income". He is a blithering idiot.

[Parkbandit]

Bernie Sanders wants to slap a 100% tax rate on income over 1 billion dollars to make sure "greedy billionaires pay their fair share."

Sure is strange how his crusade against millionaires and billionaires became a crusade against just billionaires once Bernie himself became a millionaire.

Elon Musk should give Bernie a billion dollars just to watch Bernie Sanders drop his crusade altogether.

The really sad part is people still believe what Sanders has to say and doesn't realize or just refuses to believe that the guy is a giant fraud and hypocrite.

The US government would get literally $0.00 if they put a 100% tax on anything over one billion dollar income per year.

Sanders is a complete fraud at this point.. and retarded and gullible. I'm glad the Democrats completely hoodwinked him not once but twice when he ran for President.

What a loser.

[Gan]

Bernie who?

[~Rocktar~]

The mystery of the drones over New Jersey is solved! This was posted by the official Donald J Trump account on FB:

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[Gelston]

Bernie Sanders wants to slap a 100% tax rate on income over 1 billion dollars to make sure "greedy billionaires pay their fair share."

Sure is strange how his crusade against millionaires and billionaires became a crusade against just billionaires once Bernie himself became a millionaire.

Elon Musk should give Bernie a billion dollars just to watch Bernie Sanders drop his crusade altogether.

The really sad part is people still believe what Sanders has to say and doesn't realize or just refuses to believe that the guy is a giant fraud and hypocrite.

Bernie Sanders doesn't know what unrealized capital gains are.

Interesting fact, Bill Gates is still the richest man in the world when you are talking about cash. He has over 60 billion in liquid cash.

[Parkbandit]

The mystery of the drones over New Jersey is solved! This was posted by the official Donald J Trump account on FB:

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t51.75761-15/470065370_18512185288048669_888223747293394270_n.j pg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296_tt6&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=HRbvd4cdM8QQ7kNvgH4g-3A&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&_nc_gid=AJfaBJA9RCcwSQk0URaMQ07&oh=00_AYDzExOhpwn-rJAdv7UcUhUzY9xBgZRuyX8loirnWFNfJw&oe=6763A303

GREATEST TROLL IN OUR LIFETIME.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/hOG9daU.png
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1869068935426953315


Unrelated: I don't think Seran is coming back

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Unrelated: I don't think Seran is coming back

Well, assuming he has ANY self awareness at all, would you if you had his posting history?

It's like Back when he comes and posts something stupid and immediately runs away again... reality has hit them right in the face.

Unrelated: I can't wait until Time4Fun and her illegal family are deported.

[Gelston]

Well, assuming he has ANY self awareness at all, would you if you had his posting history?

It's like Back when he comes and posts something stupid and immediately runs away again... reality has hit them right in the face.

Unrelated: I can't wait until Time4Fun and her illegal family are deported.

Didn't she say the same shit was going to happen last time? Guess fearmongering doesn't create reality.

[~Rocktar~]

The king of trolling.

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[~Rocktar~]

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[Gelston]

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[Parkbandit]

I don't disagree, but it depends on the women.

[Gelston]

I don't disagree, but it depends on the women.


Honestly, I couldn't give a flying fuck less who is talking about it. I don't watch it for the commentary, although I will watch the Manning Cast version of games when it is on.

[Methais]

Honestly, I couldn't give a flying fuck less who is talking about it. I don't watch it for the commentary, although I will watch the Manning Cast version of games when it is on.

What if it were ClydeR and Seran on commentary?

[Gelston]

What if it were ClydeR and Seran on commentary?

I would watch it out of morbid curiosity at least once.

[Parkbandit]

Honestly, I couldn't give a flying fuck less who is talking about it. I don't watch it for the commentary, although I will watch the Manning Cast version of games when it is on.

Most of the women commentators are just reporters.. where as most of my favorite male commentators are ex-NFL players that bring a real world experience to their narrative.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The interviews of the coaches before and after halftime is also a complete waste of time.

Interviewer: What do you need to do to maintain momentum or get back in the game?
Coach: We need to get back to fundamentals and convert on 3rd downs.

There, I've wrapped up every interview from every game for anyone who's missed those complete wastes of time.

[Suppressed Poet]

The interviews of the coaches before and after halftime is also a complete waste of time.

Interviewer: What do you need to do to maintain momentum or get back in the game?
Coach: We need to get back to fundamentals and convert on 3rd downs.

There, I've wrapped up every interview from every game for anyone who's missed those complete wastes of time.

“The team that is going to win the game today is the one that is able to put up the most points on the board.”

[Methais]

“The team that is going to win the game today is the one that is able to put up the most points on the board.”

"WE JUST NEED TO DO BETTER!!!"

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/wQMSSzx.png

[Gelston]

https://i.imgur.com/wQMSSzx.png

The only actual required dates are on Baby Food, per the FDA.

[Methais]

The only actual required dates are on Baby Food, per the FDA.

Not being required is different than flat out banning.

[Gelston]

Not being required is different than flat out banning.

I know, and I think it is a dumb law, but the best by doesn't mean expired and I think that needs to be put out there more.

it would be hilarious if major food distributors just say FU to California because they don't want to retool the packaging printers and just stop selling shit there. I already know truckers hate delivering there.

[Methais]

I know, and I think it is a dumb law, but the best by doesn't mean expired and I think that needs to be put out there more.

it would be hilarious if major food distributors just say FU to California because they don't want to retool the packaging printers and just stop selling shit there. I already know truckers hate delivering there.

Soon Cali will just ban food.

[Tgo01]

I know, and I think it is a dumb law, but the best by doesn't mean expired and I think that needs to be put out there more.

I like best buy dates because they give me an idea if something is still good. Like a couple of days past the best buy date for milk and it's most likely still good, a week or more and it's most likely bad. Same for eggs and similar for things like mayo and cheese.

Stuff like chips I would eat a month or two past the best buy date.

What are people in California going to do now, just guess if the food they have is still good or not?

I also like best buy dates for when I buy food because almost always you can find food that is a month or two fresher than other food of the same type that is on the same shelf. How are stores going to manage all of this? They going to try and sell stuff that has been sitting on the shelf for 1+ years now?

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/hNQnFFw.png
https://x.com/JohnJamesMI/status/1869858105166885368

Kek

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://i.imgur.com/wQMSSzx.png

I'm sure the personal injury lawyers can't wait.

[Methais]

I'm sure the personal injury lawyers can't wait.

https://i.imgur.com/FPDAuyC.png

[Gelston]

I'm sure the personal injury lawyers can't wait.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQ30VYm3NQ

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXQ30VYm3NQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLjQFgivX6A

This kind of jams :rofl:

[~Rocktar~]

Soon Cali will just ban food.

Except your state provided soy drink and roach protein bar.

[Suppressed Poet]

Seran has been very busy y’all:


https://youtu.be/Bb8CKBXfYjU?si=ArqpiQCicTCA6qnZ

[Neveragain]

Except your state provided soy drink and roach protein bar.

Not sure which would be worse, soy milk and roach protein, or, having insurance companies deny health insurance claims.

One of the options I don't die...

[Gelston]

I like best buy dates because they give me an idea if something is still good. Like a couple of days past the best buy date for milk and it's most likely still good, a week or more and it's most likely bad. Same for eggs and similar for things like mayo and cheese.

Stuff like chips I would eat a month or two past the best buy date.

What are people in California going to do now, just guess if the food they have is still good or not?

I also like best buy dates for when I buy food because almost always you can find food that is a month or two fresher than other food of the same type that is on the same shelf. How are stores going to manage all of this? They going to try and sell stuff that has been sitting on the shelf for 1+ years now?

Does the law prevent manufacture dates? They can just put that on there.

[~Rocktar~]

Not sure which would be worse, soy milk and roach protein, or, having insurance companies deny health insurance claims.

One of the options I don't die...

Health insurance claims that are denied are for services already rendered. You don't die from either option dipshit though you could choke on a roach protein bar.

[Tgo01]

Does the law prevent manufacture dates? They can just put that on there.

No clue. Not sure I ever see a manufacture date, but I suppose that could work too. I think companies would rather have no date than a manufacture date though.

[~Rocktar~]

No clue. Not sure I ever see a manufacture date, but I suppose that could work too. I think companies would rather have no date than a manufacture date though.

No, the dates are there to protect companies from lawsuits. Also, they make people who are stupid, toss perfectly good food just because of a date on the label.

[~Rocktar~]

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[~Rocktar~]

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[Tgo01]

No, the dates are there to protect companies from lawsuits. Also, they make people who are stupid, toss perfectly good food just because of a date on the label.

Of course the dates are for the benefit of the companies, doesn’t mean I can’t use the dates as a guide for how old the food is.

With no dates on the food how do we even know if the food we are buying at the store has been sitting on the shelf for 2 weeks or 2 years?

[~Rocktar~]

Of course the dates are for the benefit of the companies, doesn’t mean I can’t use the dates as a guide for how old the food is.

With no dates on the food how do we even know if the food we are buying at the store has been sitting on the shelf for 2 weeks or 2 years?

Don't shop in Kommiefornia. I agree, they have their uses and I can't WAIT for the lawsuits to drive nearly all food sales out of Kommiefornia. This has to be one of the top 10 dumbest laws they have passed.

[Neveragain]

Of course the dates are for the benefit of the companies, doesn’t mean I can’t use the dates as a guide for how old the food is.

With no dates on the food how do we even know if the food we are buying at the store has been sitting on the shelf for 2 weeks or 2 years?

Just wait until some poor bastard gets a bad case of botulism.

[Suppressed Poet]

Of course the dates are for the benefit of the companies, doesn’t mean I can’t use the dates as a guide for how old the food is.

With no dates on the food how do we even know if the food we are buying at the store has been sitting on the shelf for 2 weeks or 2 years?

Agreed.

Is this the same as the sell by date or is that completely different?

For things like milk I prefer to just go by the sell by date for my use by expiration. Normally we consume it before then, but it happens sometimes we don’t. I suppose you can do the smell test, but I like dates.

Kraft Mac & Cheese though or those muscle relaxers I was prescribed for a car accident 3 years ago, that best if used by date is merely a suggestion.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/2q6gPM6.png


Now I need to see the results for Seran, shaft, t4f, Backlash, etc.

[Tgo01]

Is this the same as the sell by date or is that completely different?

I think California is banning both.

[Alfster]

Health insurance claims that are denied are for services already rendered. You don't die from either option dipshit though you could choke on a roach protein bar.

They also loop in prior auth denials into the health insurance claims denial category, which even if they didn't, inappropriate denials absolutely lead to problems securing future care.

I'm shocked it's so tough for someone who is overweight, and a frequent user of services (elective too, fat surgery) to not understand how these things work.

[Tgo01]

(elective too, fat surgery)

Almost all surgeries/procedures are elective, even cancer treatments are elective.

Which is why it was so dumb when Democrats were outlawing elective surgeries during the government shutdowns of 2020 and 2021.

[Methais]

Almost all surgeries/procedures are elective, even cancer treatments are elective.

Which is why it was so dumb when Democrats were outlawing elective surgeries during the government shutdowns of 2020 and 2021.

An "elective" surgery is something deemed "medically unnecessary" to my understanding.

i.e. fat surgery isn't medically necessary because there are plenty of other non-surgical ways to not be a fatass, such as proper diet and exercise.

[Tgo01]

An "elective" surgery is something deemed "medically unnecessary" to my understanding.

Elective surgery just means it's not an emergency and can instead be scheduled for a future date. Medically unnecessary surgeries such as face lifts fall under this category, but even surgeries for cancer would be considered elective too because those are usually scheduled for a future date as well.

[Neveragain]

Health insurance claims that are denied are for services already rendered. You don't die from either option dipshit though you could choke on a roach protein bar.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9523o35tba7sttgr32b2u9dajv5x4td v7o6iq2n7bkz&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Just like you have to pay for Dental insurance separately, even though dental problems are one of the leading contributors to heart disease and are literally part of your body.

The entire health insurance industry is evil. ALWAYS trying to break their contracts.

You really should find a different field of work, you may be able to finally wash the slime off.

[~Rocktar~]

They also loop in prior auth denials into the health insurance claims denial category, which even if they didn't, inappropriate denials absolutely lead to problems securing future care.

I'm shocked it's so tough for someone who is overweight, and a frequent user of services (elective too, fat surgery) to not understand how these things work.

Not one person is shocked as you demonstrate your retardation again. Words have meanings, pumping up “claim denials” by adding in authorizations is clearly suspect. Preauthorizations are not claims. Around 80% of preauthorization denials are because the doctor or someone at the doctor office is retarded, like you and they did not send in appropriate documentation and almost all are resolved quickly once the office pulls it’s head out of it’s ass and submits the needed documentation.

Elective surgery is anything that isn’t an emergency/immediately lifesaving and isn’t cosmetic that doesn’t involve reconstruction from illness/injury. You just keep proving your retardation.


As to being a frequent user of services, I am not, nor have I been. However, I did save up to pay off my patient responsibility for having my surgery and post-surgery I no longer require meds for blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes or pain for my knee and hips that were damaged from my mis-spent youth doing things like motocross, martial arts, farm work and tree cutting that hastened their decline.

I do have to ask, are you one of those that demeans people for going into rehab for alcohol or drugs since there are other ways to get off booze and drugs? Do you attack people that take methadone? How about those that get therapy for their depression or anxiety? I just bet you do since you are a retarded ass.

By the way, there are many studies out there suggesting substantial cost savings for providing bariatric surgery rather than depending on other, much less effective ways to moderate weight due to the reduced cost of other care like diabetes and knee surgery. But retards like you still want to whine about how it’s the addicts fault.



Almost all surgeries/procedures are elective, even cancer treatments are elective.

Which is why it was so dumb when Democrats were outlawing elective surgeries during the government shutdowns of 2020 and 2021.

Elective surgery just means it's not an emergency and can instead be scheduled for a future date. Medically unnecessary surgeries such as face lifts fall under this category, but even surgeries for cancer would be considered elective too because those are usually scheduled for a future date as well.

^^ This is correct. Lots of people lost lots of time and money along with added pain and suffering because they could not get things like knee, back or shoulder surgery for some time during the insanity.



An "elective" surgery is something deemed "medically unnecessary" to my understanding.

i.e. fat surgery isn't medically necessary because there are plenty of other non-surgical ways to not be a fatass, such as proper diet and exercise.

Right on the first part, wrong on the second. So I will also ask you, are you one of those that demeans people for going into rehab for alcohol or drugs since there are other ways to get off booze and drugs? Do you attack people that take methadone? How about those that get therapy for their depression or anxiety? Stop being a cunt. See above.

[Methais]

Right on the first part, wrong on the second. So I will also ask you, are you one of those that demeans people for going into rehab for alcohol or drugs since there are other ways to get off booze and drugs? Do you attack people that take methadone? How about those that get therapy for their depression or anxiety? Stop being a cunt. See above.

I didn't make fat surgery the topic, so why are you being so fragile and butthurt yet again?

But yes, kicking an addiction to triple cheeseburgers with an extra large chocolate shake or whatever else morbidly obese people are hooked on should be significantly easier than an addict getting off of dope.

Let me know when you see someone going into hard withdrawals (and in some cases, dying from said withdrawals) because their skipped their 3rd 1500 calorie ultra processed drive-thru meal for the day before heading to Starbucks for another 2000 calorie 200g+ sugar "coffee," and then you might have a point that could be taken seriously.

I don't give a shit if someone gets fat surgery or not, but let's stop pretending it's equal to going to the gym and eating right. And either way, it's what you do after that really matters. The same applies to dopeheads and relapsing vs. staying clean.

[Parkbandit]

Right on the first part, wrong on the second. So I will also ask you, are you one of those that demeans people for going into rehab for alcohol or drugs since there are other ways to get off booze and drugs? Do you attack people that take methadone? How about those that get therapy for their depression or anxiety? Stop being a cunt. See above.

Hypocrite much?


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Rocktar: "You can make fun of fat people as long as they are Democrats, but the moment you look in my direction, you are demeaning."

GTFO of here with your double standards.

[Suppressed Poet]

You don’t even need fat surgery anymore with Ozempic. If you’re willing to age your face by a few decades & tank your T levels to the point your dick stops working, anyone can lose weight without putting in the real effort.

[Methais]

You don’t even need fat surgery anymore with Ozempic. If you’re willing to age your face by a few decades & tank your T levels to the point your dick stops working, anyone can lose weight without putting in the real effort.

I hear that Ozempic makes peple shit all day like with the intensity of that dude on Dumb and Dumber.

[Parkbandit]

I hear that Ozempic makes peple shit all day like with the intensity of that dude on Dumb and Dumber.

He has a name.
His name is Harry Dunne.
Stop being so disrespectful.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-29-2017/jBXjTd.gif

[~Rocktar~]

Hypocrite much?



Rocktar: "You can make fun of fat people as long as they are Democrats, but the moment you look in my direction, you are demeaning."

GTFO of here with your double standards.

I don't care if you make fun of fat people, I give a shit when you are being a piece of shit making fun of people trying to change that.

[~Rocktar~]

I didn't make fat surgery the topic, so why are you being so fragile and butthurt yet again?
But yes, kicking an addiction to triple cheeseburgers with an extra large chocolate shake or whatever else morbidly obese people are hooked on should be significantly easier than an addict getting off of dope

Because you want to harp on what is and isn’t medically necessary when you don’t know shit even after it’s been explained to you more than once, that’s why. Why are you such a willfully ignorant fuck about it? Oh, right, because you get to feel all morally superior in your own mind.

Now, let me help you here with some simple facts. You stop booze and once past any DTs, you are physiologically past the addiction in 21 days or so, the rest is mental. Stop narcotics and the same thing is true. For food addiction, which is the root of narcotic addiction since it’s triggering the same chemicals in the brain that simply isn’t the case.

Food addiction is worse for a simple and straight forward, though somewhat subtle, reason.

You always have to eat something, in some way. For the rest of your life, you must always consume the subject of your addiction or you die.

Stop cigarettes, heroin, pot, cocaine, meth, gambling, porn, any other addiction, past detox, you won’t die. Stop eating and see what happens. Now add in the fact that the entirety of human culture is built around eating and the constant advertising for it. You can argue all you want, the immutable fact is, no food consumption and you die. Stop smoking and you can almost completely avoid the subject of your addiction, me, I have to consume pretty pretty much every day.


I hear that Ozempic makes peple shit all day like with the intensity of that dude on Dumb and Dumber.

Ozympic is some nasty shit, horrid side effects, you aren't supposed to be on it more than a year and the percentage of people with crippling after effects like paralyzed stomachs is much higher than they lead people to believe. And now with foreign import and black-market versions, a whole lot of people are going to get hurt from it and the others.

The long and short of it is, I don't care about your sympathy, I would like you to become more educated and perhaps gain a little insight into how others in your own life might be getting on with things as well as perhaps help someone, somewhere, that is trying to change and is suffering to keep at it one more day.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Tgo01]

This thought just randomly flashed in my mind the other day.

Remember when the left was laughing at Bloomberg for spending 500 million dollars on ads and still lost? I wonder why no one on the left has pointed out that Harris spent over 1 billion dollars on her campaign and still lost.

At least a bunch of leftists this time around didn't say she could have instead given every American citizen 3 million dollars instead of spending a billion dollars on her failed campaign.

[Parkbandit]

This thought just randomly flashed in my mind the other day.

Remember when the left was laughing at Bloomberg for spending 500 million dollars on ads and still lost? I wonder why no one on the left has pointed out that Harris spent over 1 billion dollars on her campaign and still lost.

At least a bunch of leftists this time around didn't say she could have instead given every American citizen 3 million dollars instead of spending a billion dollars on her failed campaign.

I am so tired of the leftists saying she ran a "flawless" campaign.

WHAT? That was quite literally the worst campaign of all time.

[Methais]

I am so tired of the leftists saying she ran a "flawless" campaign.

WHAT? That was quite literally the worst campaign of all time.

Fun fact: The smartest democrat in Congress right now is the one with brain damage.

[Neveragain]

Elon and the tech bro's just found out that MAGA is indeed, not a cult. They discovered that MAGA has an army of 20 million armed men that are really pissed off.

Elon is having a very difficult time adjusting to being the employee and not the one making the rules.

[Parkbandit]

Elon and the tech bro's just found out that MAGA is indeed, not a cult. They discovered that MAGA has an army of 20 million armed men that are really pissed off.

Elon is having a very difficult time adjusting to being the employee and not the one making the rules.

No idea what you are talking about.

Link?

[Methais]

Apostrophes don't make words plural.

[Parkbandit]

Apostrophe's don't make words plural.

FTFY

[Methais]

Apo'strophe's dont make word's plural.

FTFY

I fixed it even more, Seran style.

[Suppressed Poet]

No idea what you are talking about.

Link?

I assume he is referring to Musk comments on legal immigration and the backlash he received from some on social media.

With Musk ascendant, Congress eyes new path for high-tech immigrants
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/26/congress-high-tech-immigrants-00196009

I’m in the middle of this issue. Musk is not wrong that we have a domestic shortage of engineers and skilled employees in technology. In the campus I work at we have an entire building dominated by Indians on H-1B work visas. The reason my employer hires these people is not because they are cheaper (sometimes they are and sometimes not), but because there isn’t enough IT folks to hire from domestically.

I’m ok with a legal immigration policy for this purpose under certain conditions. It should be made more costly for corporations to hire immigrants with these work visas vs. U.S. citizens that are equally qualified. We also need to make new programs that educate and train young people in these fields, and large corporations with the need for this talent should share some of the burden of the expense in doing so.

I think it’s important for the Republican party and the America First movement to distinguish themselves from legal vs illegal immigration. Illegal immigration of unskilled masses from impoverished countries is bad. Legal immigration of skilled and educated workers is a necessary tool to advance our economy, and should be embraced when & where it makes sense.

Last, the whole claiming Elon is our shadow president is the left trying to sabotage and divide the Trump administration and voters. Only if and when Elon steps out of line is it necessary that Trump reminds him who was elected and in charge of the executive branch of government. Until and unless that happens, don’t fall for their ruse.

[Neveragain]

No idea what you are talking about.

Link?

It would be hard to miss if you just open X.

Basically, they want to fast track H-1B visas. The Indian dude Trump picked to be in charge of AI has a tainted history of wanting to flood the US with Indian imports and has been exposed, on video, of teaching Indians to hack the H-1B system. He also donated to Kamala Harris and has countless tweets talking trash about Trump and MAGA.

[Parkbandit]

It would be hard to miss if you just open X.

Basically, they want to fast track H-1B visas. The Indian dude Trump picked to be in charge of AI has a tainted history of wanting to flood the US with Indian imports and has been exposed, on video, of teaching Indians to hack the H-1B system. He also donated to Kamala Harris and has countless tweets talking trash about Trump and MAGA.

Tweets honestly mean shit to me. Next time, just link whatever the fuck you are talking about so we know what the fuck you are talking about.

Donating in the past honestly means shit to me. Trump donated to Harris as well.... OMG DOES THIS MEAN HE REALLY WANTED TO LOSE AGAINST HER!?!?!?!?!

I would rather have much more legal immigration than we currently do.. and eliminate as much as possible, the illegal immigration.

I'm comfortable with the election results and the goals of the incoming administration vs. the last one.

[Neveragain]

Tweets honestly mean shit to me. Next time, just link whatever the fuck you are talking about so we know what the fuck you are talking about.

Donating in the past honestly means shit to me. Trump donated to Harris as well.... OMG DOES THIS MEAN HE REALLY WANTED TO LOSE AGAINST HER!?!?!?!?!

I would rather have much more legal immigration than we currently do.. and eliminate as much as possible, the illegal immigration.

I'm comfortable with the election results and the goals of the incoming administration vs. the last one.

You sound lazy, maybe Vivek is right.

[Methais]

I assume he is referring to Musk comments on legal immigration and the backlash he received from some on social media.

With Musk ascendant, Congress eyes new path for high-tech immigrants
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/26/congress-high-tech-immigrants-00196009

I’m in the middle of this issue. Musk is not wrong that we have a domestic shortage of engineers and skilled employees in technology. In the campus I work at we have an entire building dominated by Indians on H-1B work visas. The reason my employer hires these people is not because they are cheaper (sometimes they are and sometimes not), but because there isn’t enough IT folks to hire from domestically.

I’m ok with a legal immigration policy for this purpose under certain conditions. It should be made more costly for corporations to hire immigrants with these work visas vs. U.S. citizens that are equally qualified. We also need to make new programs that educate and train young people in these fields, and large corporations with the need for this talent should share some of the burden of the expense in doing so.

I think it’s important for the Republican party and the America First movement to distinguish themselves from legal vs illegal immigration. Illegal immigration of unskilled masses from impoverished countries is bad. Legal immigration of skilled and educated workers is a necessary tool to advance our economy, and should be embraced when & where it makes sense.

Last, the whole claiming Elon is our shadow president is the left trying to sabotage and divide the Trump administration and voters. Only if and when Elon steps out of line is it necessary that Trump reminds him who was elected and in charge of the executive branch of government. Until and unless that happens, don’t fall for their ruse.

"President Musk" is a lolworthy attempt by the left to drive a wedge between Musk and Trump, and the only ones falling for it are other leftists who are just as stupid.

If *Seran were still here, he'd be posting all day about "President Musky" convinced that he just threw out the biggest zinger in the history of zingers.

*Assuming he didn't decide to get his shit together and join a gym and is in the process of being redpilled after Kamala's obliteration, which is unlikely.

[Parkbandit]

You sound lazy, maybe Vivek is right.

Translation: "WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST KNOW WHATEVER STUPID THING I AM TRYING TO SAY BUT FAILING MISERABLY AT IT!"

Don't fret... most retards have the same issue. sErAn was famous for just spouting some retarded shit and then expecting everyone to know what he was talking about.

[Neveragain]

Translation: "WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST KNOW WHATEVER STUPID THING I AM TRYING TO SAY BUT FAILING MISERABLY AT IT!"

Don't fret... most retards have the same issue. sErAn was famous for just spouting some retarded shit and then expecting everyone to know what he was talking about.

Translation: "I'm a lazy cunt."

[Tgo01]

I'm fine with more legal immigration of skilled or wealthy immigrants.

I know some companies take advantage of H-1B visas, I think Disney a few years ago was bringing in a bunch of workers with H-1B visas and replacing all of their American citizen workers, which is absolute bullshit. But if the US is short on engineers then I'm fine with bringing in immigrants to fill those roles.

I'm also fine with giving incentives to American citizens to go to school for these critical jobs we are lacking in. Rather than offering free college tuition for people to get a major in lesbian interpretive dance theory, I'm fine with giving free college or paying for most of the college for people to get a degree in engineering or whatever is in need.

[Parkbandit]

Translation: "I'm a lazy cunt."

It's ok.. we have retardese interpreters around here that will translate your stupidity for normal people.

Just keep doing what you are doing.. you tried and that is the most important thing.

[Gelston]

Translation: "I'm a lazy cunt."

Or, you know, just say "Oh, my bad, here is what I saw that led me to what I said", instead of doubling down on being a dumb bitch.

[Methais]

Translation: "I'm a lazy cunt."

Nah he's right. If you're going to reference a story, especially vaguely, provide a link. It's asinine to expect people to start googling key words out of your post and hoping the correct result comes up, in which case how does one even know which results are the right ones based on such a vague post?

To not do so would be a Seran move, and nobody wants to be like Seran. Not even Seran.

[Gelston]

Elon and the tech bro's just found out that MAGA is indeed, not a cult. They discovered that MAGA has an army of 20 million armed men that are really pissed off.

Elon is having a very difficult time adjusting to being the employee and not the one making the rules.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/28/trump-musk-h1b-visas

Looks like you are wrong as usual and Trump is backing Musk.

[ClydeR]

Looks like you are wrong as usual and Trump is backing Musk.

Gelston is correct.

Here's a good summary of Trump's position on H-1B visas..


https://i.imgur.com/6igtV9F.png
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1873139445689700782

Trump actually said he supports H-1B visas because they work on his properties. Who wants to tell him? H-1B visas are only for jobs requiring a high degree of expertise, such as math, engineering and medicine.

Did Trump change his position, as implied in the above Tweet, to match Musk's position? Let's roll the tape and find out..


The H-1B visa program makes it easier for employers to import highly skilled foreign labor, and has been widely abused to undercut American workers. Trump has declared himself against such abuses, stating in the immigration platform available on his website that, if president, he would require employers using H-1B visas to hire American workers first. Just last Sunday, Trump highlighted two former Disney IT workers replaced by foreign workers.

But by Thursday night, the front-runner had changed his tune. When moderator Megyn Kelly cited his previous waffling on the subject, Trump announced that he was “softening” his website’s hard line. “We need highly skilled people in this country,” he said. “And if we can’t do it, we’ll get them in.”

Yet one flip-flop was not enough. Just after midnight, Trump’s campaign announced that he was reversing his reversal in a statement that promised to “end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”

More... (https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/03/donald-trump-debate-highlights-just-how-dishonest/)

The answer is yes. Trump is heeling Musk.

[Tgo01]

Trump actually said he supports H-1B visas because they work on his properties. Who wants to tell him? H-1B visas are only for jobs requiring a high degree of expertise, such as math, engineering and medicine.

So you think all it takes to run the kinds of properties Trump owns is a bunch of gardeners or something? There is probably a reason Trump owns multiple properties and is a billionaire and all you can do is bitch about him.


“end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions.”

So Trump wants to make sure the H1B visas work exactly how they are supposed to work? The horror!

Your absolute lack of knowledge in everything you post about is quite astounding.

[Anebriated]

I'd like to see them prove they couldn't fill the position onshore and remove the salary cap on the H1B so that its less about finding quality at cheap prices and more about bringing in the right people.

[Tgo01]

Musk is now saying employers should pay a higher minimum wage to H1B visa holders and also pay a tax for each H1B visa holder they employ, this way it would be more expensive to hire H1B visa holders instead of hiring Americans, so companies can't just import cheap labor. I actually had this idea in my head the past couple of days as I was reading all of the arguments in favor of and against H1B visas, Musk must be reading my mind!

The funny thing is watching the left wing media try to spin this as Musk "backing down" against the MAGA base and changing his mind on H1B visas.

Does the media have no shame left at all? How is addressing the concerns of people that think these visas can be used to import cheap labor show him "changing his mind" or "backing down" on his stance at all?

If the left didn't have a bunch of Clyders to parrot back each talking point they feed to the media then there would no longer be any Democrat party.

[Parkbandit]

Gelston is correct.

Here's a good summary of Trump's position on H-1B visas..

https://i.imgur.com/6igtV9F.png
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1873139445689700782

Trump actually said he supports H-1B visas because they work on his properties. Who wants to tell him? H-1B visas are only for jobs requiring a high degree of expertise, such as math, engineering and medicine.

Did Trump change his position, as implied in the above Tweet, to match Musk's position? Let's roll the tape and find out..

The answer is yes. Trump is heeling Musk.

So, you took a random post of a random person as Trump's position on H-1B Visas?

Here.. let's just use Trump's actual words:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gf6SoteXoAEjW7Q.jpg

Now, let's see what random retard you decided to quote:

Some other Alex Cole other posts on X:

"I wonder if President Musk will be invited to the state funeral for President Carter?" Weird.. sounds like some alt-leftist cupcake still upset at the election results.

"It's unbelievable that this wasn't the end for him." with a pic of the shame that is January 6th "armed insurrection"

"When Republicans say "Election Fraud" they simple mean that too many Black People voted." Bro, you're black.. you're own party said you are too dumb and/or too poor to get yourself an ID.


Maybe next time cLyDeR, pick a less unhinged leftist to base your entire "argument" on.

Fucking retard.

[ClydeR]

So you think all it takes to run the kinds of properties Trump owns is a bunch of gardeners or something? There is probably a reason Trump owns multiple properties and is a billionaire and all you can do is bitch about him.

Trump hires employees under the H-2B visa program. He's just saying whatever Musk wants without doing any investigation himself.

[ClydeR]

So, you took a random post of a random person as Trump's position on H-1B Visas?

That's what Trump does all the time on his social media platform. And he became President!

[Parkbandit]

That's what Trump does all the time on his social media platform. And he became President!

"B-b-b-b-but TRUMP!!!!"

The only thing more predictable than your retarded takes on politics is your raging TDS that exponentially makes you more retarded.

And our "special" little Retard Champion.

Thank you for your "special" type of entertainment, cLyDeR.

[Parkbandit]

Trump hires employees under the H-2B visa program. He's just saying whatever Musk wants without doing any investigation himself.

I had no idea you have access to the employee records of the entire Trump Organization and all of its holdings, affiliates and subsidiaries.

I mean, sure it's a privately owned business and has no public reporting on such matters... but YOU, you know what's going on!

Thank you cLyDeR, for letting us know! You. Fucking. Retard.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/UTKXIQw.png
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1876276276258033945 (https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1876276276258033945)

https://media4.giphy.com/media/1PgPvWLfXGkCY/giphy-downsized.gif

[Tgo01]

Congress did the official vote count for president today. Harris, being the vice president, had to certify the results and declare Trump the winner and herself the loser. You could tell she was pissed.

[Parkbandit]

Congress did the official vote count for president today. Harris, being the vice president, had to certify the results and declare Trump the winner and herself the loser. You could tell she was pissed.

Pissed or drunk?

[Methais]

Pissed?

Yes.


or drunk?

Yes.


Pissed or drunk?

Yes.

[Suppressed Poet]

Yes.



Yes.



Yes.

Listen, I came from a working class family. This election fell far from the coconut tree, but the fight continues with the significance of the passage of time. We are all now unburdened by what has been.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdpPJ1YXAAAqtfu.jpg

[Suppressed Poet]

America, fuck yeah!

Trump claims he'll rename the Gulf of Mexico to 'Gulf of America'
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-claims-hell-rename-gulf-mexico-gulf-america/story?id=117423165
https://i.yourimageshare.com/thumb-8hpFlsz8ra.webp

[Tgo01]

America, fuck yeah!

Trump claims he'll rename the Gulf of Mexico to 'Gulf of America'
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-claims-hell-rename-gulf-mexico-gulf-america/story?id=117423165
https://i.yourimageshare.com/thumb-8hpFlsz8ra.webp

I can hear the collective left's screaming now. I love it.

If Democrats can rename a mountain in Alaska away from McKinley with the dumb argument that "But McKinley never even visited the state!!1!11" then Trump can rename the Gulf of America.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

While I don't hate it, I would really rather our President work on more important things.

[Gelston]

I mean, I guess he could get it renamed that in the US, but we'd be the only ones calling it that.

I'd probably still call it the Gulf of Mexico out of habit anyways... Same way I call stadiums by their old ass names even though they get new sponsers.

[Parkbandit]

I mean, I guess he could get it renamed that in the US, but we'd be the only ones calling it that.

I'd probably still call it the Gulf of Mexico out of habit anyways... Same way I call stadiums by their old ass names even though they get new sponsers.

I'm going to start calling it Gulf of America just to trigger the lefties.

[Methais]

I'm going to start calling it Gulf of America just to trigger the lefties.

Call it the Gulf of Trump if you want them to meltdown even more.

[~Rocktar~]

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[ClydeR]

Section 230 exists because the courts ruled that internet services would only be considered a platform if they didn’t moderate their site, but if they did moderate then they were considered a publisher. Section 230 allows service providers to remain a platform and thus safe from lawsuits even if they moderate the content on their sites, as long as the moderation is done in good faith, e.g. removing content that is overly violent.

You know who's stopped calling for the repeal of Section 230? Everybody who previously favored repealing it. Trump used to mention the need to repeal it nearly daily (https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22230%22). Not anymore. Wonder why? Would Trump change his policy position based on his personal financial benefit?


Since leaving office, of course, Trump himself has started a social media company: Truth Social, which was founded in 2022 (at a time when he was still barred from Twitter owing to the insurrection of January 6, 2021). “From now on, digital platforms should only qualify for immunity protection under Section 230 if they meet high standards of neutrality, transparency, fairness, and non-discrimination,” Trump said in a video posted to Truth Social that year. Since then, however, he has stayed relatively quiet on issues related to Section 230. In August, Chamber of Progress, a progressive tech trade group, sent an open letter to Trump asking him to clarify his position on the law, pointing out that Truth Social itself relies on Section 230 to host and curate third-party content, and that if it weren’t for that provision, Trump’s platform might also face litigation over what users say on the platform, Adam Kovacevich, the CEO of Chamber of Progress, told the Washington Post. Section 230 also lets Truth Social moderate content as it sees fit, for instance when choosing not to take down medical misinformation or hateful content.

More... (https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/section_230_trump.php)

[Tgo01]

You know who's stopped calling for the repeal of Section 230? Everybody who previously favored repealing it. Trump used to mention the need to repeal it nearly daily (https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22230%22). Not anymore. Wonder why? Would Trump change his policy position based on his personal financial benefit?

lol

Even in what you quoted Trump doesn't say Section 230 should be done away with, he just says it shouldn't be applied universally to every internet company.

Why do you far leftists do this? You read something then completely lie about what you just read and expect everyone else to join in on your delusion. I would say this is just you being a troll, but you far leftists do this all the fucking time. Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/473079211_122148539594335315_8514842487240432501_n .jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=WG-7tb-IJ2YQ7kNvgGASbcz&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&_nc_gid=AeowWypJ2Ih4vEXZsDB0RIN&oh=00_AYA2ap2EbL1w9_jWlGETO5CoelzKXLbHWnYIKY27CyHZ Zg&oe=678787D5

[ClydeR]

You don’t even need fat surgery anymore with Ozempic. If you’re willing to age your face by a few decades & tank your T levels to the point your dick stops working, anyone can lose weight without putting in the real effort.

Until Denmark sells Greenland to us, nobody will be able to afford Ozempic. It's made in Denmark, you know. The tariffs on any country that owns Greenland but refuses to sell it will be yuge.

[ClydeR]

lol

Even in what you quoted Trump doesn't say Section 230 should be done away with, he just says it shouldn't be applied universally to every internet company.

Trump absolutely did say Section 230 should be repealed. He posted it many, many times on Twitter, often in ALL CAPS with multiple exclamation points!!! Like this eloquent gem (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1266387743996870656), or this (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313511340124917760), or this (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1332175155104247808). I can only imagine how someone who wrote like that would be treated in this forum. At least nobody can complain that he was unclear about his position.

[Suppressed Poet]

Until Denmark sells Greenland to us, nobody will be able to afford Ozempic. It's made in Denmark, you know. The tariffs on any country that owns Greenland but refuses to sell it will be yuge.

Oh no! How else are those seeking to lose weight supposed to achieve a caloric deficit??

I suppose we’ll all just have to eat healthy foods & exercise.

[Tgo01]

Trump absolutely did say Section 230 should be repealed. He posted it many, many times on Twitter, often in ALL CAPS with multiple exclamation points!!!

And then he said it should only apply to companies who are neutral and don't discriminate, which has been my position, and the position of many people like me, this entire time. You want me to lose my shit because Trump agrees with me? lol

I know you're used to being a Democrat where you have no real opinions of your own, you just change your "opinions" based on what Democrats tell you to think. Run along now.

[ClydeR]

And then he said it should only apply to companies who are neutral and don't discriminate, which has been my position, and the position of many people like me, this entire time.

That was after he persuaded people to invest in his social media company. Prior to having an economic interest in a social media company, he unequivocally favored and relentlessly advocated for the outright repeal of Section 230. After he had a personal economic stake in a social media company, he said, "From now on. . . ."

What does he say about it now? Nothing.

A reminder from the pre-TruthSocial days..
https://i.imgur.com/LvZIhTY.png
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1332175155104247808



Furthermore, your meaning of "discriminate" is hopelessly impossible to police. Every act of choosing what to allow and disallow is an act of discrimination.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/473259728_1564728610878810_7295322578572481412_n.j pg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg_p843x403_tt6&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=Yn5Pz1GMaCQQ7kNvgFUpVG3&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&_nc_gid=Af1n3RSqbOh1GrNfprE5wH8&oh=00_AYBFMywwtkODSBdhu-F_q-QawHHHDHXC-bhREqUnihSzzw&oe=67886006

[Parkbandit]

Until Denmark sells Greenland to us, nobody will be able to afford Ozempic. It's made in Denmark, you know. The tariffs on any country that owns Greenland but refuses to sell it will be yuge.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5080779-greenland-prime-minister-donald-trump/

Trump is playing 3d chess and you are playing genital joust with yourself and your dad's dildo.

[~Rocktar~]

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5080779-greenland-prime-minister-donald-trump/

Trump is playing 3d chess and you are playing genital joust with yourself and your dad's dildo.

ClydeR doesn't have a dad, that would be too much "toxic masculinity" it's two moms for him.

[Methais]

ClydeR doesn't have a dad, that would be too much "toxic masculinity" it's two moms for him.

ClydeR's dad cries himself to sleep every night after seeing what he brought into this world.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/Of7VoWw.png

Get rekt grifter

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEdv07JVXwhImYGWc/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9529ettjzsojrkmodcuasa2spv5zk6k fmstizmewudw&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[~Rocktar~]

ClydeR's dad cries himself to sleep every night after seeing what he brought into this world.

Also a possibility.


https://i.imgur.com/Of7VoWw.png

Get rekt grifter

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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving racist POS.

[ClydeR]

Is Pete Hegseth qualified to lead our troops in the liberation of Greenland?

[Tgo01]

Is Pete Hegseth qualified to lead our troops in the liberation of Greenland?

Yes.

[Suppressed Poet]

Is Pete Hegseth qualified to lead our troops in the liberation of Elizabeth Warren’s Cherokee Nation?

FTFY

[Tgo01]

FTFY

But she has high cheekbones!

[Parkbandit]

Is Pete Hegseth qualified to lead our troops in the liberation of Greenland?

This is low energy.. even for you.

Step it up.

[Shaps]

Just going to provide some links / graphs. Decide for yourselves. All data from Official Government websites.

Los Angeles: SmartLA2028 - "In 2019, the City of Los Angeles Information Technology Agency (ITA) convened its Smart City Committee, composed of 24 departments and elected officials."

Los Angeles: SmartLA2028 Proposal submitted - https://ita.lacity.gov/sites/g/files/wph1626/files/2021-05/SmartLA2028%20-%20Smart%20City%20Strategy.pdf

Trust for Public Land - Los Angeles: https://web.tplgis.org/csc-project-gallery/ and https://web.tplgis.org/csc_losangeles/
-Oddly the link for the ArcGis map titled "Story Map - Learn about the impact the analysis is having on communities" is no longer available.

California Statewide High-Speed Rail Alignment: https://hsr.ca.gov/high-speed-rail-in-california/project-sections/

High-Speed Rail Topographic Map: https://hsr.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/docs/newsroom/maps/Statewide_topo.pdf

Live California Wildfire Map Tracker: https://www.frontlinewildfire.com/california-wildfire-map/

Comments from Gov. Newsom today: "“We’re already organizing a ‘Marshall Plan,’” Gov. Gavin Newsom said on Saturday. “We already have a team looking at reimagining L.A. 2.0.”

California Statewide annual acres burned, 1950-2023: https://oehha.ca.gov/climate-change/epic-2022/impacts-vegetation-and-wildlife/wildfires

Not saying a thing. Just providing you with Government documents from California and Los Angeles.

[Gelston]

Luckily, there will be a lot of cleared out space for the upcoming LA Olympics.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Gelston]

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The US doesn't have an official language.

[~Rocktar~]

The US doesn't have an official language.

And?