Things that made you laugh today (Political Version)

[Seran]

Wrong. See executive order #14042.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/09/executive-order-on-ensuring-adequate-covid-safety-protocols-for-federal-contractors/

Thank you for the swift response. Yes a preliminary injunction was issued, but the actual ruling on the matter is still pending. Specially to the federal employee mandate made in that EO.

[beldannon5]

We had at least 4 major political figures assassinated in the US during the 60's. Fucking nimrod.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThirstyPhonyCuscus-size_restricted.gif

not too mention all the people who have mysteriously died/vanished who worked for or against the clintons. but i digress

[Alfster]

Trump never once implemented a nation wide lockdown, you are completely full of shit and it's sad that years later you still believe the lies fed to you.

He asked people to voluntarily quarantine themselves for 2 weeks because the criminal Fauci said we needed 2 weeks to slow the spread.

Pull your head out of your ass already.

And this is how you justify it. It's cool man, cute how you change history to fit into your skewed view.

He instituted the guidelines that shutdown schools, even extended it - but it was the other side that did it!!!!

But hey, those guidelines were voluntary - but effectively shut down the country. lol. Must be just wicked to live in your head.

[Tgo01]

And this is how you justify it. It's cool man, cute how you change history to fit into your skewed view.

He instituted the guidelines that shutdown schools, even extended it - but it was the other side that did it!!!!

But hey, those guidelines were voluntary - but effectively shut down the country. lol. Must be just wicked to live in your head.

Which orders did Trump implement that shut the country down exactly? Do you have anything to cite? Or just your brain dead memory of how it t happened?

[Parkbandit]

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/14/elon-musk-offers-to-buy-twitter-for-54point20-a-share-saying-it-needs-to-be-transformed-as-private-company.html

I hope he buys it and fires the entire woke staff.

They must be all crying this morning.

Here's what he wrote:

I invested in Twitter as I believe in its potential to be the platform for free speech around the globe, and I believe free speech is a societal imperative for a functioning democracy.
However, since making my investment I now realize the company will neither thrive nor serve this societal imperative in its current form. Twitter needs to be transformed as a private company.
As a result, I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, a 54% premium over the day before I began investing in Twitter and a 38% premium over the day before my investment was publicly announced. My offer is my best and final offer and if it is not accepted, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder.
Twitter has extraordinary potential. I will unlock it.
Elon Musk

[Gelston]

And this is how you justify it. It's cool man, cute how you change history to fit into your skewed view.

He instituted the guidelines that shutdown schools, even extended it - but it was the other side that did it!!!!

But hey, those guidelines were voluntary - but effectively shut down the country. lol. Must be just wicked to live in your head.

I mean, Trump never did place a lock down. It was individual states that did, usually their Governors. A couple states never even had lockdowns, or they were short as hell. I remember Texas dropping their restrictions very early.

[Gelston]

Elon Musk is now offering to buy the rest of Twitter for 43 billion. That would be why he refused a board position.

[Bhaalizmo]

Elon Musk is now offering to buy the rest of Twitter for 43 billion. That would be why he refused a board position.

That's one way to settle a dispute.

Curious if he'll succeed.

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[Seran]

Elon Musk is now offering to buy the rest of Twitter for 43 billion. That would be why he refused a board position.

With his getting busted by the SEC for using Twitter as a stock market manipulation tool, I can't think of worse person, other than Trump, to own Twitter.

[Parkbandit]

With his getting busted by the SEC for using Twitter as a stock market manipulation tool, I can't think of worse person, other than Trump, to own Twitter.

Thank you.

This pearl clutching made me laugh this morning too.

[Gelston]

With his getting busted by the SEC for using Twitter as a stock market manipulation tool, I can't think of worse person, other than Trump, to own Twitter.

You’re just upset he wouldn’t allow people you disagree with to be censored.

[Suppressed Poet]

With his getting busted by the SEC for using Twitter as a stock market manipulation tool, I can't think of worse person, other than Trump, to own Twitter.

You know what I don’t quite understand about liberals and their complete disdain for Trump? On actual political agendas and policies, Trump isn’t really a hardline conservative. If DeSantis or someone like him wins in 2024 Trump is going to feel like a Democrat to you in retrospect.

[Suppressed Poet]

Word on the street is Elon Musk is going to reinstate Trump and simultaneously ban all other users. :lol:

[Methais]

So your response condemning someone for celebrating deaths is to wish death upon them with more steps and far more death.

Something about that seems hypocritical, but you probably can't figure it out.

The next civil war will take place on Call of Duty.

[Methais]

You've said that same thing a few times now, but guess what, stop posting stupid shit and you won't get stupid shit back.

Self awareness is your friend.


Seriously, you guys are like those kids who are screaming about lawsuits against the bulletproof vests, after one of your kids died in Florida due to playing tag with guns. Ignore the cause, blame the effect.

Unfortunately for you...


This just in, a random on social media said a thing, here's my partisan extrapolation! Thanks for sharing this pointless post about social media commentary!

...you have no friends.

[Tgo01]

As a result, I am offering to buy 100% of Twitter for $54.20 per share in cash, a 54% premium over the day before I began investing in Twitter and a 38% premium over the day before my investment was publicly announced. My offer is my best and final offer and if it is not accepted, I would need to reconsider my position as a shareholder.

I'm confused how this works. Who exactly decides if Musk can buy 100% of the shares? The current board? How is it a "hostile takeover" if the current board can turn down his offer? Can the board decide for share holders not on the board that they must sell their shares?

[Gelston]

I'm confused how this works. Who exactly decides if Musk can buy 100% of the shares? The current board? How is it a "hostile takeover" if the current board can turn down his offer? Can the board decide for share holders not on the board that they must sell their shares?

I don't know how he can. Like, what if I own .001% of twitter and refuse to sell?

[Tgo01]

I don't know how he can. Like, what if I own .001% of twitter and refuse to sell?

That's what I'm wondering. I guess if 50.01% of stock holders agree to the terms then everyone has to sell their shares? I always thought hostile takeovers was when one person/company just bought enough stock to own at least 50.01% of the outstanding shares, didn't know they went for 100%.

[Gelston]

That's what I'm wondering. I guess if 50.01% of stock holders agree to the terms then everyone has to sell their shares? I always thought hostile takeovers was when one person/company just bought enough stock to own at least 50.01% of the outstanding shares, didn't know they went for 100%.

There are laws that support minority stakeholders, owning 50.1% of a company doesn't allow you to just do what you want, although no one can technically tell you no.

[Methais]

How can you tell me it’s the same? 2 years ago this was a new virus that we knew NOTHING about. Is the situation the same now? Or do we have 2+ years of experience dealing with it? Understanding it more? And have a better idea on how to treat it? Have multiple vaccines?

So yeah… it’s FAR different.

"It's ok for thousands of people to pile in together like sardines as long as they're out protesting Trump, but going fishing on the beach by yourself is totally dangerous and we can't allow that."

^ This kind of stuff really happened all throughout 2020.

[Parkbandit]

That's what I'm wondering. I guess if 50.01% of stock holders agree to the terms then everyone has to sell their shares? I always thought hostile takeovers was when one person/company just bought enough stock to own at least 50.01% of the outstanding shares, didn't know they went for 100%.

It probably has more to do with taking the company from public (which it is now) to private without publicly traded stocks.

[Seran]

You know what I don’t quite understand about liberals and their complete disdain for Trump? On actual political agendas and policies, Trump isn’t really a hardline conservative. If DeSantis or someone like him wins in 2024 Trump is going to feel like a Democrat to you in retrospect.

And yet Trump did more to harm the United States than any President in the last century, and has stupid amounts of support from the same hard-line conservatives as a result.

[Methais]

Charles Darwin posited that organisms which best adapted to their environment were the most successful in reproduction and long term survival. When a worldwide pandemic is killing hundreds of thousands in your country and you refuse available preventative care and then die, then you're proving Darwin correct in that you're not adapting to your environment.

The same goes for getting sick and surviving. The results of natural selection at its finest.

For the record,

Can you just for one day stop being dumber than you were on the previous day? Everything you just said is literally the opposite of reality, and that's before even factoring in how ineffective the vaccine is. Holy fuck not even Backlash + time4fun + pk + macguyver combined could reach your level of stupid. :lol:

[Methais]

Meanwhile your party is going all paramilitary over mouth breathers shouting over and over that it could happen here too.

Guess what, we're a republic, our country has been incredibly stable since the Civil War was won up until Trump staged his coup. You should be terrified that an orange man tried to go authoritarian and take over our country. Rather than hyperventilate that we're not China.

https://c.tenor.com/4opamcAljRQAAAAd/laugh-smile.gif


A reasonably fair question; how much will the staggeringly higher mortality rates of covid-19 amongst Republicans effect polling, effect voter turn out? Will red state actions to disenfranchise voters be enough to hold the line?



https://rollcall.com/2022/03/30/republicans-pandemic-deaths-pollsters/

Cope harder. Dems are getting destroyed in November, and everyone except you realizes it.

[Methais]

With his getting busted by the SEC for using Twitter as a stock market manipulation tool, I can't think of worse person, other than Trump, to own Twitter.

Here's me again btw:

https://i.imgur.com/ZbIrdP1.png

The silver lining for you here is that you'll never have any money to invest in anything anyway.


You’re just upset he wouldn’t allow people you disagree with to be censored.

This is correct.


You know what I don’t quite understand about liberals and their complete disdain for Trump? On actual political agendas and policies, Trump isn’t really a hardline conservative. If DeSantis or someone like him wins in 2024 Trump is going to feel like a Democrat to you in retrospect.

None of that matters to retards like Seran who just blindly think what their TV tells them to think.

[Tgo01]

It will be interesting if Must doesn't end up getting his way with this buyout offer.

The largest shareholders of Twitter are all investment firms, they can either get a premium for their stocks now or risk Musk going through with his threat of selling off his 9% stake in the company, most likely resulting in a massive value reduction for their shares. Also some people on the board probably own a lot of stock but are required to hold onto that stock, they too have to make the decision of either cashing in now and walking away with millions of dollars, or risking the value of their holdings dropping.

[Methais]

That's what I'm wondering. I guess if 50.01% of stock holders agree to the terms then everyone has to sell their shares? I always thought hostile takeovers was when one person/company just bought enough stock to own at least 50.01% of the outstanding shares, didn't know they went for 100%.

He wants 100% because he wants to take the company private again.

[Parkbandit]

It will be interesting if Must doesn't end up getting his way with this buyout offer.

The largest shareholders of Twitter are all investment firms, they can either get a premium for their stocks now or risk Musk going through with his threat of selling off his 9% stake in the company, most likely resulting in a massive value reduction for their shares. Also some people on the board probably own a lot of stock but are required to hold onto that stock, they too have to make the decision of either cashing in now and walking away with millions of dollars, or risking the value of their holdings dropping.

Just tell them that if Elon Musk takes Twitter private, it will hurt Trump's social media company that he invested in competing with Twitter.

They will sign off on the sale in minutes.

[Methais]

Just tell them that if Elon Musk takes Twitter private, it will hurt Trump's social media company that he invested in competing with Twitter.

They will sign off on the sale in minutes.

That's a good idea. Let's test it out.


Hey Seran, if Elon Musk takes Twitter private, it will hurt Trump's social media company that he invested in competing with Twitter.

Still against Elon buying Twitter?

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-pregnant-vaccinated-people-more-180147086.html

"Report: Pregnant, vaccinated people more vulnerable to COVID"

"As we hit the midpoint in Black Maternal Health Week, there are new findings on the spread of COVID that might deeply affect how pregnant people safeguard themselves against the virus. As reported last week by the Washington Post, a new study conducted by Epic Research found that even when vaccinated, they are nearly twice as susceptible to contracting COVID as non-pregnant people."

"Worse, they are also at greater risk of becoming seriously ill or dying as a result of the coronavirus."

"Originally, those increased risks were believed to bolster the argument for vaccinations—and it should be noted that vaccines and boosters are still the best general prevention against the virus to date. But since COVID has also been linked to serious complications in pregnancy—including not only deaths but premature births and stillbirths—the findings could inform how pregnant people are vaccinated and treated, as well as what precautions can individually be taken to protect themselves."



Remember the past 2+ years when women who were pregnant, were thinking about not getting the vaccine, or thought to ask questions about it... and were shamed for it? Remember how their fears were pushed aside by the "experts" and the "lemmings"? Remember how any Doctor who supported a pregnant woman's decision to avoid the vaccine faced potential repercussions?

Well look now. They try to downplay it later in the article... but one quote stands out...


"As for the specific implications and necessary precautions for pregnant individuals, there is clearly more research needed. “It’s definitely interesting,” said Denise Jamieson, chair of gynecology and obstetrics at Emory University School of Medicine in Atlanta and a prenatal specialist in infectious diseases. “This study asks this question but doesn’t answer it.”


More research needed. But they'll keep pushing it, even against the wishes of a pregnant woman who is considering her own medical history/conditions.

The idiocy of the "masses" of the past 2+ years is absolutely abhorrent.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/blm-co-founder-slams-apos-191546217.html

"BLM co-founder slams 'triggering' charity transparency laws after $6M mansion exposed"

"The co-founder of Black Lives Matter (BLM) slammed the U.S.’s "triggering" charity transparency laws after the organization's purchase of a $6 million Los Angeles mansion was exposed. Patrisse Cullors, a BLM founder, said she found it "triggering" — emotionally compromising — when she hears about financial documents being made public."


ROFL.. yea, BLM... working for the common black person.

Once again, the idiocy of the "masses" allowed this grift - and destruction of numerous cities - to occur. Social media has allowed the lowest common denominator of intelligence among us to expand it's stupidity everywhere.

[ClydeR]

Things are getting out of hand if textbook publishers are including CRT in elementary school math books. How would elementary math be relevant to CRT? The Florida Department of Education did not give any examples of CRT in elemental school math books, leaving us to imagine what it may have been. I bet they had word problems with black sounding names, like "DeShawn had five pieces of candy. He gave two pieces of candy to Tyrone. How many pieces of candy did DeShawn have left?"



The Florida Department of Education announced it has rejected dozens of math textbooks submitted by publishers for schools, saying they "contained prohibited topics" including critical race theory.

More... (https://www.axios.com/florida-rejects-math-textbooks-critical-race-theory-1f7555e6-16b7-4303-bb67-4f79c9fc53d3.html)


Details: Most of the rejected books were for elementary schools, according to the education department's statement.

The department said it's "unfortunate that several publishers" had "ignored" the 2021 directive and "attempted to slip rebranded instructional materials" into books, while others "included prohibited and divisive concepts such as the tenants of CRT or other unsolicited strategies of indoctrination despite FDOE’s prior notification."

Worth noting: The education department described the review process as "transparent," but did not name the rejected textbooks nor provide examples of passages that failed to meet the criteria.




The other side: State Rep. Carlos Smith (D) tweeted Saturday thate DeSantis was "hysterically pulling math books outta FL schools claiming they 'indoctrinate' kids with CRT."

"This isn’t just crazy right-wing pandering— next they’ll spend MILLIONS of tax dollars forcing schools to buy math books from GOP campaign donors," Smith added.

[Shaps]

Things are getting out of hand if textbook publishers are including CRT in elementary school math books. How would elementary math be relevant to CRT? The Florida Department of Education did not give any examples of CRT in elemental school math books, leaving us to imagine what it may have been. I bet they had word problems with black sounding names, like "DeShawn had five pieces of candy. He gave two pieces of candy to Tyrone. How many pieces of candy did DeShawn have left?"

It's racist to assume someone named DeShawn and Tyrone are black.. just fyi.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-vaccines-not-meant-prevent-093005674.html

"COVID vaccines are not meant to prevent all infections, experts say. Americans need to reset their expectations."

" The vaccines may not prevent all infection, but they still protect against the worst consequences of the disease."

Now they try to clean it up later in the article, as if the "experts" this was expected all along blah blah blah... ROFL...

BUT, do you remember the past 2+ years if someone questioned the efficacy of the vaccine... they were shunned, maligned, disparaged, and belittled? Remember the past 2+ years of people acting as if they couldn't get or spread it because "they got the vaccine, and those evil unvaxxed sought to destroy all of human life?"

I remember.

Now the "experts" are saying what all rational people have been saying.. and they expect us to all forget? Don't forget... or they'll just bend you over and fuck you again in the future like some prison bitch.

[Shaps]

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/22/joe-biden/biden-says-vaccinated-people-cant-spread-covid-19-/

"Biden says that vaccinated people can’t spread COVID-19. That’s not what CDC says."

Wonder why Biden hasn't been banned from all online presence, or news conferences, for spreading MISINFORMATION... like... actual MISINFORMATION.

Oh wait.. he's got a (D) behind his name - and a bunch of moronic people that are to invested in their own egos to think for themselves.

[ClydeR]

Watch the trailer for Tucker Carlson's new documentary "The End of Men" about declining testosterone levels. Carlson has some really odd theories -- which, out of politeness, I refuse to discuss -- about how men can use certain tanning techniques to increase testosterone levels. https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1515130557675581442


I can't find the original trailer on Youtube to embed in this forum. I found this altered trailer with the music changed to try to make it funny. To be clear, the images are not changed, just the music.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayaDMBXRLUM

[Seran]

Things are getting out of hand if textbook publishers are including CRT in elementary school math books. How would elementary math be relevant to CRT? The Florida Department of Education did not give any examples of CRT in elemental school math books, leaving us to imagine what it may have been. I bet they had word problems with black sounding names, like "DeShawn had five pieces of candy. He gave two pieces of candy to Tyrone. How many pieces of candy did DeShawn have left?"

Can't wait to see examples of passages they claim are CRT or banned subjects. I'm sure this will wind up just being a scam to get voters scared

[Seran]

There fact DeSantis rejected math books due to Common Core arithmetic is fucking hilarious.

[time4fun]

Can't wait to see examples of passages they claim are CRT or banned subjects. I'm sure this will wind up just being a scam to get voters scared

Uh yeah. No one was ever teaching Critical Race Theory outside of law school and grad school- and even then it's an obscure legal theory that a 3L *might* spend a week reading about in a specifically chosen elective on race or power and the law. And something that very specific interdisciplinary fields (or Anthro/Soc) might study for a week in very specific classes about race or power.

It blew my mind when suddenly a bunch of crazy conservatives were talking about it. Less surprising was the obvious fact that none of them knew anything about it.


This is a long standing white nationalist goal- to keep schools from discussing anything other than white American history- removing all discussion of diversity. And, naturally, the Republican party decided the best way to deal with the hugely significant issue of racism was by....engaging in dog whistle politics and white grievance.

Sure would be nice if they had any interest in actually solving real problems. Oh and if they weren't so gung-ho about embracing old school KKK politics.

[~Rocktar~]

Yay, the racist Leftist come out in force to disparage parents right to control what is being taught.

And yes, CRT principles, the idea that everything in history should be viewed through the lens of racism and the idea that we should teach children to be racist and hate themselves is and has been taught for a good while now and it's destructive. Of course you all don't want to really end racism and sexism because then you wouldn't have the specter of racism and victimhood to control the populations you depend on for votes and money.

BTW, common core is about as ridiculous method for teaching math as has ever been developed and is a complete and utter failure. If you cared about kids, you would want to see it gone too but you don't because people that can do math end up not voting for Socialists.

[Tgo01]

Uh yeah. No one was ever teaching Critical Race Theory outside of law school and grad school-

I love Democrats such as you.

Democrats such as time4fun: Banning CRT is RACIST!!!111!!!
Also Democrats such as time4fun: No one is teaching CRT!!!111!!!

Okay so if no one is teaching CRT then what is the big deal if it's banned?

Democrats are nothing but the opposite-Republican party these days.

Republicans are for something? Well then as a Democrat I'm against it!

Securing our borders? Against it!
Enforcing laws? Against it!
Supporting our military? Against it!
Banning abortions in the ninth month? Against it!
Recognizing the fetus as a person when the fetus is the victim of a crime? Against it!

[Seran]

BTW, common core is about as ridiculous method for teaching math as has ever been developed and is a complete and utter failure. If you cared about kids, you would want to see it gone too but you don't because people that can do math end up not voting for Socialists.

You should write that on your QAnon board, title it, "Socialists want your money, and will take it through common core." Hahaha.

[Seran]

I love Democrats such as you.

Democrats such as time4fun: Banning CRT is RACIST!!!111!!!
Also Democrats such as time4fun: No one is teaching CRT!!!111!!!

Okay so if no one is teaching CRT then what is the big deal if it's banned?

Democrats are nothing but the opposite-Republican party these days.

Republicans are for something? Well then as a Democrat I'm against it!

Securing our borders? Against it!
Enforcing laws? Against it!
Supporting our military? Against it!
Banning abortions in the ninth month? Against it!
Recognizing the fetus as a person when the fetus is the victim of a crime? Against it!

Because your Conservashit party is using CRT ae the boogeyman out to steal small children and screaming their heads off as if it were being taught in every class since preschool. DeSantis is grandstanding, using their education system to promote his right wing conspiracy lies and people like you eat it up.

[Bhaalizmo]

Yay, the racist Leftist come out in force to disparage parents right to control what is being taught.

And yes, CRT principles, the idea that everything in history should be viewed through the lens of racism and the idea that we should teach children to be racist and hate themselves is and has been taught for a good while now and it's destructive. Of course you all don't want to really end racism and sexism because then you wouldn't have the specter of racism and victimhood to control the populations you depend on for votes and money.

BTW, common core is about as ridiculous method for teaching math as has ever been developed and is a complete and utter failure. If you cared about kids, you would want to see it gone too but you don't because people that can do math end up not voting for Socialists.

What a bunch of nonsense.

1) That's not what happened.
2) That's not CRT at all. Have you read a definition?
3) Really? Your claim is intentionally misteaching math as a Socialists tactic to... get more votes? Please, tell me more about this devious tactic to get votes by making people suck at math.

[Jeril]

What a bunch of nonsense.

1) That's not what happened.
2) That's not CRT at all. Have you read a definition?
3) Really? Your claim is intentionally misteaching math as a Socialists tactic to... get more votes? Please, tell me more about this devious tactic to get votes by making people suck at math.

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.

So, if you believe this non sense and are white, how are you not supposed to hate yourself?

[Bhaalizmo]

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans. Critical race theorists are generally dedicated to applying their understanding of the institutional or structural nature of racism to the concrete (if distant) goal of eliminating all race-based and other unjust hierarchies.

So, if you believe this non sense and are white, how are you not supposed to hate yourself?

Hate, is not a part of CRT, nor is it a result of learning CRT.

You must have brought that with you.

[Tgo01]

Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of the United States insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans.

How do racist pieces of shit believe in this dumb shit when Asians on average do better than every other demographic in the US, INCLUDING whites, and Indians are damn close to doing as well as whites too.

I guess to be a critical race theorist it requires you to just completely lie to yourself and to others.

[Jeril]

Hate, is not a part of CRT, nor is it a result of learning CRT.

You must have brought that with you.

Ah, yes, someone who is white is just going to thoroughly love themselves after being told they are basically all that's wrong in the world just for being born white. Also, if it wasn't a result of learning CRT, why do so many white people who believe in it hate themselves? Must be pure coincidence.

You thinking I am going to spend my energy on hating anything just shows how devoid of reason you are.

[Bhaalizmo]

Ah, yes, someone who is white is just going to thoroughly love themselves after being told they are basically all that's wrong in the world just for being born white. Also, if it wasn't a result of learning CRT, why do so many white people who believe in it hate themselves? Must be pure coincidence.

You thinking I am going to spend my energy on hating anything just shows how devoid of reason you are.

Yeah, that's not what CRT teaches. Hate. You're putting that there.

CRT does not teach that being white is basically all that's wrong in the world. Stop being dense. You're being willfully so.

CRT espouses that being white, wasn't an identity in and of itself until some people decided it should be, for reasons. Then, instead of being proud of being Irish, Scottish, English etc., we'd all be into white pride and shit.

One could understand this theory, and take from it that they have a newfound pride in whatever ethnicity they are. or their Nationality. Or whatever. Move ahead from it having learned, become stronger. Less influenced by people, for reasons.

Or, I guess one could just be thick and act like it means something it doesn't.

You, continuing to say that CRT wants you to hate, or that I want you to hate, is retarded. Are you related to Parkbandit?

[Bhaalizmo]

Aw Damn.

Hookworms giving the souf a bad name.

"stereotypes about "stupid, lazy Southerners" in the US were caused by centuries of hookworm infection which causes lethargy, anemia and iron deficiency. These, in turn, negatively affect growth and intellectual development in children."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/how-a-worm-gave-the-south-a-bad-name/

[Shaps]

https://rumble.com/v118xdt-msnbc-elon-musk-is-trying-to-control-how-people-think.-thats-our-job..html

Listen to what she says closely... "he's trying to control what people think, that is OUR job...."

ROFL.

[Parkbandit]

https://rumble.com/v118xdt-msnbc-elon-musk-is-trying-to-control-how-people-think.-thats-our-job..html

Listen to what she says closely... "he's trying to control what people think, that is OUR job...."

ROFL.

Isn't that an old clip of the stupidity she said about Trump?

No way she said the same stupid thing twice.

[Jeril]

Yeah, that's not what CRT teaches. Hate. You're putting that there.

CRT does not teach that being white is basically all that's wrong in the world. Stop being dense. You're being willfully so.

CRT espouses that being white, wasn't an identity in and of itself until some people decided it should be, for reasons. Then, instead of being proud of being Irish, Scottish, English etc., we'd all be into white pride and shit.

One could understand this theory, and take from it that they have a newfound pride in whatever ethnicity they are. or their Nationality. Or whatever. Move ahead from it having learned, become stronger. Less influenced by people, for reasons.

Or, I guess one could just be thick and act like it means something it doesn't.

You, continuing to say that CRT wants you to hate, or that I want you to hate, is retarded. Are you related to Parkbandit?

You are missing something here. And it's the fact that this isn't about how you nor I feel about it. It's how other people feel about it. Now, is the definition I posted wrong in anyway? Is there some other definition you use?

[Parkbandit]

You are missing something here. And it's the fact that this isn't about how you nor I feel about it. It's how other people feel about it. Now, is the definition I posted wrong in anyway? Is there some other definition you use?

You just used a 4 syllable word.. TWICE in one post.. and you are expecting Bhaalz to know what you are talking about?

Stick to max 2 syllable words.. and use colors and pictures.

[Methais]

How do racist pieces of shit believe in this dumb shit when Asians on average do better than every other demographic in the US, INCLUDING whites, and Indians are damn close to doing as well as whites too.

I guess to be a critical race theorist it requires you to just completely lie to yourself and to others.

Leftists hate Asians now too and they get lumped in with white people. Not joking.

[Methais]

Yeah, that's not what CRT teaches. Hate. You're putting that there.

CRT does not teach that being white is basically all that's wrong in the world. Stop being dense. You're being willfully so.

CRT espouses that being white, wasn't an identity in and of itself until some people decided it should be, for reasons. Then, instead of being proud of being Irish, Scottish, English etc., we'd all be into white pride and shit.

One could understand this theory, and take from it that they have a newfound pride in whatever ethnicity they are. or their Nationality. Or whatever. Move ahead from it having learned, become stronger. Less influenced by people, for reasons.

Or, I guess one could just be thick and act like it means something it doesn't.

You, continuing to say that CRT wants you to hate, or that I want you to hate, is retarded. Are you related to Parkbandit?

So if it's not any of that, then what makes you (and Seran) so miserable and self loathing?

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/TBUUbN3.png


In before Seranzzmo4fun is like...

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[Suppressed Poet]

Leftists hate Asians now too and they get lumped in with white people. Not joking.

Also Jews got lumped into same category as the rest of us white people. Funny how that works…

[Seran]

You are missing something here. And it's the fact that this isn't about how you nor I feel about it. It's how other people feel about it. Now, is the definition I posted wrong in anyway? Is there some other definition you use?

You pull up a definition of a theory, one that only a small segment of sociologists actually believe mind you, and cry coup that it proves white people should hate themselves. Except nowhere in that definition did it call for the self recrimination of white people. Bhaalizmo pointed out time and again you inserted the concept of hate into CRT and that is no less true now than the first time you pretended not to realize it.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsbAFPNEViU

ROFL - when you realize you're in the majority... regardless of what the "mainstream media" keeps trying to tell you. LOL.

[Gelston]

I didn't even know CNN+ was a thing.

I'm considering Fox Nation because it has COPS, but that would be the only thing I'd watch on it.

[ClydeR]

Aw Damn.

Hookworms giving the souf a bad name.

"stereotypes about "stupid, lazy Southerners" in the US were caused by centuries of hookworm infection which causes lethargy, anemia and iron deficiency. These, in turn, negatively affect growth and intellectual development in children."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/how-a-worm-gave-the-south-a-bad-name/


There was a good Stuff You Should Know podcast about hookworms.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOVCsEsAsDo

If you live in the South today, you can thank an obsessive cow doctor, whose theory was initially maligned as crazy, and John D. Rockefeller, who needed a charitable project to improve his public image. I loved the part about people getting married in Rockefeller's hookworm tents. Very fun podcast.

[ClydeR]

BTW, common core is about as ridiculous method for teaching math as has ever been developed and is a complete and utter failure. If you cared about kids, you would want to see it gone too but you don't because people that can do math end up not voting for Socialists.


Did you know that Common Core was initially a Republican cause? Obama went along with it when he was sworn into office in 2009. Then Republicans switched sides and accused Obama of trying to take over the schools.

[Seran]

Did you know that Common Core was initially a Republican cause? Obama went along with it when he was sworn into office in 2009. Then Republicans switched sides and accused Obama of trying to take over the schools.

I'm not entirely sure why a base ten arithmetic standard or reading/language standards are so terrifying to Conservative Republicans. Their screaming about pedophile swamp lizard takeover of the world through common core gets donations going, so maybe that's the only legitimate reason as they see it.

[Tgo01]

I forget which thread Seran was losing his mind in (since it’s all of them now), but he said somewhere that the courts haven’t stuck down any of Biden’s mandates unlike Trump, which proved Trump was violating the constitution.

Well the courts just struck down Biden’s mask mandate on airplanes. So yeah, going by Seran’s own logic Biden is violating the constitution and isn’t fit for office. Be sure to do the right thing for the first time in your life, Seran, and don’t vote for Biden or any Democrat.

[Seran]

I forget which thread Seran was losing his mind in (since it’s all of them now), but he said somewhere that the courts haven’t stuck down any of Biden’s mandates unlike Trump, which proved Trump was violating the constitution.

Well the courts just struck down Biden’s mask mandate on airplanes. So yeah, going by Seran’s own logic Biden is violating the constitution and isn’t fit for office. Be sure to do the right thing for the first time in your life, Seran, and don’t vote for Biden or any Democrat.

Well, the Florida Federal District Court ruled that the CDCs mandate exceeded the authority granted under Administrative Procedure Act and Public Health Services Act, though I can see how you can read that sentence and see "Biden violated the constitution" , because all of those letters, except B can be reordered to mean what you interpret.

Maybe that's just it though, Conservatives like Dreaven aren't as partisan, paranoid and xenophobic as we think. They just suffer from such a severe case of dyslexia or cognitive dissonance that what they read or hear means = Biden sux

[Jeril]

You pull up a definition of a theory, one that only a small segment of sociologists actually believe mind you, and cry coup that it proves white people should hate themselves. Except nowhere in that definition did it call for the self recrimination of white people. Bhaalizmo pointed out time and again you inserted the concept of hate into CRT and that is no less true now than the first time you pretended not to realize it.

And you can't provide a better definition, because?

[Seran]

And you can't provide a better definition, because?

Because your definition wasn't really wrong, you just added an extra incorrect part about it teaching white hate. Kind of like Trump drawing on that NOAA map with a magic marker.

[Shaps]

CRT:

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED506735.pdf

"Firstly, racism is ordinary: the overall ethos of majority culture promotes and promulgates a notion of “color-blindness” and “meritocracy.” These two notions are mutually intertwined and serve to marginalize certain enclaves of people—predominately people of color. Color-blindness and meritocratic rhetoric serve two primary functions: Critical Race Theory 7 first, they allow whites to feel consciously irresponsible for the hardships people of color
face and encounter daily and, secondly, they also maintain whites’ power and strongholds within society."

Get that? CRT teaches that seeing people as people, regardless of color, is actually racist.
Get that? CRT teaches that achieving something based on merit, is actually racist.
What the author is saying - is that POCs should only been seen for their color, and their achievements and merits do not count. It's sickening.


"One does not have to peer too far Critical Race Theory 9 back in U.S. history to ascertain that race has been socially constructed 2. Instances of
socially constructing race may include: (1) the infamous Dred Scott v. Sandford case whereby the U.S. Supreme Court declared that "Negroes," whether free or enslaved, were not citizens; or (2) the infamous “one drop rule,” a relic from the Jim Crow era where one drop of black blood made an individual “black.”; or (3) how in 1935 minorities were denied Social Security and excluded from unions."

All of the shit above? Democrats. Racist pieces of shit. Dred Scott? "The seven justices who supported the decision were indeed Democrats. But of the two dissenters — Benjamin Robbins Curtis and John McLean — only McLean was a Republican during his tenure as a Supreme Court justice."


And CRT is a backdoor Jim Crow 2020 style. Fuckin evil sick bastards.


This is an example of what teachers of CRT think... POCs are only good for "sports"...

"I am expected to tell the kids that if they study hard and stay out of trouble, they can become a law professor like me. That, however, is a very big lie: a whopper. When I started teaching law sixteen years ago, there were about thirty-five Hispanic law professors, approximately twenty-five of which were Chicano. Today, the numbers are only slightly improved. In the interim, however, a nearly complete turnover has occurred. The faces are new, but the numbers have remained the same from year to year. Gonzalez leaves teaching; Velasquez is hired somewhere else. Despite this, I am expected to tell forty kids in a crowded inner city classroom that if they work hard, they can each be among the chosen twenty-five. Fortunately, most kids are smart enough to figure out that the system does not work this way. If I were honest, I would advise them to become major league baseball players, or to practice their hook shots. As Michael Olivas points out, the odds, pay, and working conditions are much better in these other lines of work."


This shit is insidious propaganda designed to keep POCs thinking they are less than, can not achieve, and only their color matters. It's disgusting. It's the historical meanness of humanity wrapped up in pretty words. It's fucking sick is what it is.

I could keep quoting shit, but racists are going to keep being racists no matter how much I point out their racism.

[time4fun]

Yay, the racist Leftist come out in force to disparage parents right to control what is being taught.

And yes, CRT principles, the idea that everything in history should be viewed through the lens of racism and the idea that we should teach children to be racist and hate themselves is and has been taught for a good while now and it's destructive. Of course you all don't want to really end racism and sexism because then you wouldn't have the specter of racism and victimhood to control the populations you depend on for votes and money.

BTW, common core is about as ridiculous method for teaching math as has ever been developed and is a complete and utter failure. If you cared about kids, you would want to see it gone too but you don't because people that can do math end up not voting for Socialists.

What you described has absolutely nothing to do with Critical Race Theory you idiot.

Critical Race Theory is just an offshoot of Critical Legal Theory- which looks at the system of power and inequality as a social structure, and law as both a contributor to, and reflection of, that social structure. i.e. The law is part of how inequality is perpetuated, and legal reform is how we can remedy problems of social inequality. Not a single person here disagrees with that statement, I guarantee. And everyone here has, at some point in their life, said something along the lines of: "The law is there to protect rich people and screw over poor people". Congrats, you are a believer in the fundamental tenants of Critical Legal Theory.

Critical Race Theory is just applying Critical Legal Theory to racism and racial power. It does NOT- in any way, shape, or form- state that everything in history should be seen through the lens of racial inequality. It's a legal theory about the legal system and the way it has been used to enforce racism, and it's only interested in looking at legal remedies to the issue. NOT through the behaviors of individual actors.

Literally no one here believes that it hasn't. The "One Drop Rule", Segregation, racial limits on property ownership, laws that made black people actual property, etc. are all examples of the law enforcing racial inequality. If you can see that, then congratulations: you are a believe in the fundamental tenants of Critical Race Theory.


Again I cannot stress this enough: Critical Race Theory doesn't look at racism as an aggregation of individual actions taken by individual actors. It looks at racism as a social structure that exists independently of most of those actors and looks for remedies through legal change, not individual behavior change.

It is not interested in how children behave. It's not interested in how you behave. It does not give a shit about anyone who doesn't either create or actively enforce laws that are either intentionally written to codify racial inequality or that have the unintentional effect of codifying racial inequality.

What's actually going on here is a bunch of people want to get schools to stop talking about the existence of, and history of, racism in this country. And they just put together a whole list of things they think shouldn't happen- most of which isn't- and gave it a name that would scare people: Critical Race Theory.

Because they know virtually no one outside of niche academic and community activist circles has any idea what it means, and that they won't bother to look it up from an independent source.

[Shaps]

What you described has absolutely nothing to do with Critical Race Theory you idiot.

Critical Race Theory is just an offshoot of Critical Legal Theory- which looks at the system of power and inequality as a social structure, and law as both a contributor to, and reflection of, that social structure. i.e. The law is part of how inequality is perpetuated. Not a single person here disagrees with that statement, I guarantee. And everyone here has, at some point in their life, said something along the lines of: "The law is there to protect rich people and screw over poor people". Congrats, you are a believer in the fundamental tenants of Critical Legal Theory.

Critical Race Theory is just applying Critical Legal Theory to racism and racial power. It does NOT- in any way, shape, or form- state that everything in history should be seen through the lens of racial inequality. It's a legal theory about the legal system and the way it has been used to enforce racism. Again, literally no one here believes that it hasn't. The "One Drop Rule", Segregation, racial limits on property ownership, laws that made black people actual property, etc. are all examples of the law enforcing racial inequality. If you can see that, then congratulations: you are a believe in the fundamental tenants of Critical Race Theory.

And I cannot stress this enough: Critical Race Theory doesn't look at racism as an aggregation of individual actions taken by individual actors. It looks at racism as a social structure that exists independently of most of those actors and looks for remedies through legal change, not individual behavior change.

It is not interested in how children behave. It's not interested in how you behave. It does not give a shit about anyone who doesn't either create or actively enforce laws that are either intentionally written to codify racial inequality or that have the unintentional effect of codifying racial inequality.

What's actually going on here is a bunch of people want to get schools to stop talking about the existence of, and history of, racism in this country. And they just put together a whole list of things they think shouldn't happen- most of which isn't- and gave it a name that would scare people: Critical Race Theory.

Because they know virtually no one outside of niche academic and community activist circles has any idea what it means, and that they won't bother to look it up from an independent source.

Read above... academic source... 2009... before it became a hot button issue. The fact you don't realize it's racist and demeaning as fuck to POCs, just shows how brainwashed you actually are.

People that support CRT - as it's own doctrine states - are actually racist. It's amazing they don't think they are, but I guess racists have a hard time with self-introspection.

[Shaps]

This is actually pretty hilarious - near the end of summation - figured would add to it, because most won't get to the end....

LadsonBillings (2006) counters these beliefs when she states, "This [storytelling] is often seen as problematic because it is regarded as ‘unscientific’ and subjective, but CRT never makes claims of objectivity or rationality. Rather, it sees itself as an approach to scholarship that integrates lived experience with racial realism" (p. vi-vii).

ROFL... makes me chuckle. Ever wonder how that meme "facts don't care about feelings" stemmed from... as a counter to shit like above.

[time4fun]

I'm just going to post this again (and again) until it gets through everyone's head.

Critical Race Theory is a legal theory that analyzes the ways the legal system is used to codify and enforce racism, which is views as a social structure. It then looks for remedies through legal reforms.

It's not a theory of psychology, and it's not a theory of human behavior. It doesn't look at racism as the culmination of aggregated behaviors from individual actors, nor does it look to remedy racism by changing that behavior. It does not give a flying fuck what your kids think about racism. It does not give a flying fuck about what you do in your day-to-day life or what you believe.

If you're not in charge of writing the laws or enforcing them, Critical Race Theory could not give less of a shit about changing you, your kids, or the choices you make in your stupid lives.

So when someone passes a law that says "Schools can't teach things that make people feel ashamed of their race", that has nothing to do with banning discussions of Critical Race Theory. CRT doesn't care about directly changing how people feel or what they do.

Those laws are there to create a system where it's illegal to do anything that might offend the fragile and racist sentiments of some (hypothetical) white parents, while ignoring the concerns of non-racist white parents and parents of color while also disregarding the well being of their children's isn't about teaching Critical Race Theory in schools.

It's about privileging racist views over everyone else's and using the law to do it. So in fairness, CRT would be VERY interested in those laws.

But not your stupid children.

[Parkbandit]

Read above... academic source... 2009... before it became a hot button issue. The fact you don't realize it's racist and demeaning as fuck to POCs, just shows how brainwashed you actually are.

People that support CRT - as it's own doctrine states - are actually racist. It's amazing they don't think they are, but I guess racists have a hard time with self-introspection.

time4dum is playing the role of Sania Kay. She will tell you what you should be offended by... not anyone else.

https://www.si.com/.image/c_fit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw _620/MTY4MTAyODY2ODQ0OTE5MTY4/c_0jpg.jpg

[time4fun]

CRT:

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED506735.pdf

"Firstly, racism is ordinary: the overall ethos of majority culture promotes and promulgates a notion of “color-blindness” and “meritocracy.” These two notions are mutually intertwined and serve to marginalize certain enclaves of people—predominately people of color. Color-blindness and meritocratic rhetoric serve two primary functions: Critical Race Theory 7 first, they allow whites to feel consciously irresponsible for the hardships people of color
face and encounter daily and, secondly, they also maintain whites’ power and strongholds within society."

Get that? CRT teaches that seeing people as people, regardless of color, is actually racist.
Get that? CRT teaches that achieving something based on merit, is actually racist.
What the author is saying - is that POCs should only been seen for their color, and their achievements and merits do not count. It's sickening.


"One does not have to peer too far Critical Race Theory 9 back in U.S. history to ascertain that race has been socially constructed 2. Instances of
socially constructing race may include: (1) the infamous Dred Scott v. Sandford case whereby the U.S. Supreme Court declared that "Negroes," whether free or enslaved, were not citizens; or (2) the infamous “one drop rule,” a relic from the Jim Crow era where one drop of black blood made an individual “black.”; or (3) how in 1935 minorities were denied Social Security and excluded from unions."

All of the shit above? Democrats. Racist pieces of shit. Dred Scott? "The seven justices who supported the decision were indeed Democrats. But of the two dissenters — Benjamin Robbins Curtis and John McLean — only McLean was a Republican during his tenure as a Supreme Court justice."


And CRT is a backdoor Jim Crow 2020 style. Fuckin evil sick bastards.


This is an example of what teachers of CRT think... POCs are only good for "sports"...

"I am expected to tell the kids that if they study hard and stay out of trouble, they can become a law professor like me. That, however, is a very big lie: a whopper. When I started teaching law sixteen years ago, there were about thirty-five Hispanic law professors, approximately twenty-five of which were Chicano. Today, the numbers are only slightly improved. In the interim, however, a nearly complete turnover has occurred. The faces are new, but the numbers have remained the same from year to year. Gonzalez leaves teaching; Velasquez is hired somewhere else. Despite this, I am expected to tell forty kids in a crowded inner city classroom that if they work hard, they can each be among the chosen twenty-five. Fortunately, most kids are smart enough to figure out that the system does not work this way. If I were honest, I would advise them to become major league baseball players, or to practice their hook shots. As Michael Olivas points out, the odds, pay, and working conditions are much better in these other lines of work."


This shit is insidious propaganda designed to keep POCs thinking they are less than, can not achieve, and only their color matters. It's disgusting. It's the historical meanness of humanity wrapped up in pretty words. It's fucking sick is what it is.

I could keep quoting shit, but racists are going to keep being racists no matter how much I point out their racism.

The author was a fucking PhD student in the School of Education you idiot. He was attempting to apply CRT- in what he clearly considered a novel way- to educational outcomes.

He's not a scholar of Critical Race Theory.

[Seran]

CRT:

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED506735.pdf

"Firstly, racism is ordinary: the overall ethos of majority culture promotes and promulgates a notion of “color-blindness” and “meritocracy.” These two notions are mutually intertwined and serve to marginalize certain enclaves of people—predominately people of color. Color-blindness and meritocratic rhetoric serve two primary functions: Critical Race Theory 7 first, they allow whites to feel consciously irresponsible for the hardships people of color
face and encounter daily and, secondly, they also maintain whites’ power and strongholds within society."

Get that? CRT teaches that seeing people as people, regardless of color, is actually racist.
Get that? CRT teaches that achieving something based on merit, is actually racist.
What the author is saying - is that POCs should only been seen for their color, and their achievements and merits do not count. It's sickening.


"One does not have to peer too far Critical Race Theory 9 back in U.S. history to ascertain that race has been socially constructed 2. Instances of
socially constructing race may include: (1) the infamous Dred Scott v. Sandford case whereby the U.S. Supreme Court declared that "Negroes," whether free or enslaved, were not citizens; or (2) the infamous “one drop rule,” a relic from the Jim Crow era where one drop of black blood made an individual “black.”; or (3) how in 1935 minorities were denied Social Security and excluded from unions."

All of the shit above? Democrats. Racist pieces of shit. Dred Scott? "The seven justices who supported the decision were indeed Democrats. But of the two dissenters — Benjamin Robbins Curtis and John McLean — only McLean was a Republican during his tenure as a Supreme Court justice."


And CRT is a backdoor Jim Crow 2020 style. Fuckin evil sick bastards.


This is an example of what teachers of CRT think... POCs are only good for "sports"...

"I am expected to tell the kids that if they study hard and stay out of trouble, they can become a law professor like me. That, however, is a very big lie: a whopper. When I started teaching law sixteen years ago, there were about thirty-five Hispanic law professors, approximately twenty-five of which were Chicano. Today, the numbers are only slightly improved. In the interim, however, a nearly complete turnover has occurred. The faces are new, but the numbers have remained the same from year to year. Gonzalez leaves teaching; Velasquez is hired somewhere else. Despite this, I am expected to tell forty kids in a crowded inner city classroom that if they work hard, they can each be among the chosen twenty-five. Fortunately, most kids are smart enough to figure out that the system does not work this way. If I were honest, I would advise them to become major league baseball players, or to practice their hook shots. As Michael Olivas points out, the odds, pay, and working conditions are much better in these other lines of work."


This shit is insidious propaganda designed to keep POCs thinking they are less than, can not achieve, and only their color matters. It's disgusting. It's the historical meanness of humanity wrapped up in pretty words. It's fucking sick is what it is.

I could keep quoting shit, but racists are going to keep being racists no matter how much I point out their racism.

You just quoted a university students doctoral thesis as if it were the God given text book to everything CRT. Without going into why everything about Critical Race Theory is wrong in my opinion, it is a minority opinion with absolutely no impact on our lives.

Reparations won't make it through Congress and affirmative action is about to be stamped out once and for all by the Supreme Court.

That leaves us with homework assignments like you quoted and Congressional Republicans and Florida governors trying to scare the country into donating all their money to their candidates.

[Shaps]

The author was a fucking PhD student in the School of Education you idiot. He was attempting to apply CRT- in what he clearly considered a novel way- to educational outcomes.

He's not a scholar of Critical Race Theory.

Lol... well I'm not paying 110 dollars for the CRT books they're peddling and grifting people with these days. The fact you disregard all the references he publishes, quotes, and statements of the purveyors of CRT... again points to your blind, delusional, self-righteous and ignorant perceptions.

Even funnier - you said no one "outside of niche academic and community activist circles has any idea what it means"... trying to demean others and make yourself feel like you're educated - when I had already posted something from the "niche academic" realm... and then you say it's not good enough.

Typical I suppose though. Can't win on points, just deny the points. Typically how it goes. You can keep saying what you want... and you'll still be wrong.

As said though, racist people have a hard time with introspection, and someday you and others may realize how demeaning and racist you all are.

[Suppressed Poet]

time4dum is playing the role of Sania Kay. She will tell you what you should be offended by... not anyone else.

https://www.si.com/.image/c_fit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw _620/MTY4MTAyODY2ODQ0OTE5MTY4/c_0jpg.jpg

Don’t forget that as a woman of faith she is infallible in her understanding that God is pleased when abortions are performed & that Jesus rose from the dead to teach us the ways of the holy progressive tax system…

[Shaps]

The first was from 2009... let's see how 2021 is progressing...

https://bdmuseum.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2021/04/Critical-Race-Theory-Powerpoint-Facilitator_-Dresden-Lackey-MS.-PhDc.pdf

"Colorblindness, rights, meritocracy, and notions of neutrality are questionable and potentially harmful to marginalized peoples" - Yup... still there

"Interest of Convergence, Revisionist History, Critique of Liberalism, Structural Determinism" - Yup... still there.

[~Rocktar~]

Did you know that Common Core was initially a Republican cause? Obama went along with it when he was sworn into office in 2009. Then Republicans switched sides and accused Obama of trying to take over the schools.

I would reply to you in a meaningful manner but you are ClydeR and don't deserve it.

PS: Only Leftist shills make the assumption that everyone of their side should follow the herd mindlessly because of a letter.

[~Rocktar~]

What you described has absolutely nothing to do with Critical Race Theory you idiot.

Critical Race Theory is just an offshoot of Critical Legal Theory- which looks at the system of power and inequality as a social structure, and law as both a contributor to, and reflection of, that social structure. i.e. The law is part of how inequality is perpetuated, and legal reform is how we can remedy problems of social inequality. Not a single person here disagrees with that statement, I guarantee. And everyone here has, at some point in their life, said something along the lines of: "The law is there to protect rich people and screw over poor people". Congrats, you are a believer in the fundamental tenants of Critical Legal Theory.

Critical Race Theory is just applying Critical Legal Theory to racism and racial power. It does NOT- in any way, shape, or form- state that everything in history should be seen through the lens of racial inequality. It's a legal theory about the legal system and the way it has been used to enforce racism, and it's only interested in looking at legal remedies to the issue. NOT through the behaviors of individual actors.

Literally no one here believes that it hasn't. The "One Drop Rule", Segregation, racial limits on property ownership, laws that made black people actual property, etc. are all examples of the law enforcing racial inequality. If you can see that, then congratulations: you are a believe in the fundamental tenants of Critical Race Theory.



It is not interested in how children behave. It's not interested in how you behave. It does not give a shit about anyone who doesn't either create or actively enforce laws that are either intentionally written to codify racial inequality or that have the unintentional effect of codifying racial inequality.

What's actually going on here is a bunch of people want to get schools to stop talking about the existence of, and history of, racism in this country. And they just put together a whole list of things they think shouldn't happen- most of which isn't- and gave it a name that would scare people: Critical Race Theory.

Because they know virtually no one outside of niche academic and community activist circles has any idea what it means, and that they won't bother to look it up from an independent source.

Yay, you are so wrong it hurts.

[Shaps]

What about 2020? https://fieldstoneleadershipsd.org/wp-content/uploads/Creating-a-Common-Language-for-the-Conversation_Session-1-1.pdf

" Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step by step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism and principles of constitutional law."

You can read the rest for yourself... but again, they contend and point out how "white" was "created by 17th century slave owners"... who once again... were Democrats.... which I find fucking hilarous.

Oh, the other thing that makes me laugh my ass off... and why Democrats are not "liberals" and have perverted that term... Democrats "the Left" supports CRT... CRT questions the very foundations of "liberal order" hahahaha. That point is so full of irony, I'll be laughing about it for days to come.

That racist ass party is making all you fools racists, without you realizing they're turning you into racists. LOL.

[Parkbandit]

The author was a fucking PhD student in the School of Education you idiot. He was attempting to apply CRT- in what he clearly considered a novel way- to educational outcomes.

He's not a scholar of Critical Race Theory.

Was this a made up PhD like your countless ones.. or was this an actual legitimate PhD?

[Seran]

What about 2020? https://fieldstoneleadershipsd.org/wp-content/uploads/Creating-a-Common-Language-for-the-Conversation_Session-1-1.pdf

" Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step by step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism and principles of constitutional law."

You can read the rest for yourself... but again, they contend and point out how "white" was "created by 17th century slave owners"... who once again... were Democrats.... which I find fucking hilarous.

Oh, the other thing that makes me laugh my ass off... and why Democrats are not "liberals" and have perverted that term... Democrats "the Left" supports CRT... CRT questions the very foundations of "liberal order" hahahaha. That point is so full of irony, I'll be laughing about it for days to come.

That racist ass party is making all you fools racists, without you realizing they're turning you into racists. LOL.

*yawn* Napoleon once killed thousands in the name of French superiority, does than make all French genocidal? British once though bathing corrupted the soil, so are they filthy heathens? Catholics religious zealots capable of ethnic cleansing?

You wield far flung theories as if they're writ and use history as a club to drive home your white nationalist recruitment drive. Just give it up, you're wrong.

[Parkbandit]

*yawn* Napoleon once killed thousands in the name of French superiority, does than make all French genocidal? British once though bathing corrupted the soil, so are they filthy heathens? Catholics religious zealots capable of ethnic cleansing?

You wield far flung theories as if they're writ and use history as a club to drive home your white nationalist recruitment drive. Just give it up, you're wrong.

Serious question: Why does Every.single.topic. have to do with race with you?

Like what is it like to always be so fixated on the color of someone's skin?

Sad little racist.

[~Rocktar~]

Serious question: Why does Every.single.topic. have to do with race with you?

Like what is it like to always be so fixated on the color of someone's skin?

Sad little racist.

Because he is a sad, angry, Leftist and it always about race with them.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Literally the first time I've heard CRT talked about from a legal perspective. Almost like someone is evolving their reasoning to try and base their racist ideation into something less blatantly racist.

[Seran]

Serious question: Why does Every.single.topic. have to do with race with you?

Like what is it like to always be so fixated on the color of someone's skin?

Sad little racist.

Why does team Red think that American life and southern slave owners need to be brought up in every topic?

[Shaps]

Literally the first time I've heard CRT talked about from a legal perspective. Almost like someone is evolving their reasoning to try and base their racist ideation into something less blatantly racist.

Because they just spout the nonsense they've been told to believe... when you actually link them facts, literature, quotes of the purveyors of CRT, and actual documentation... all they are left with is random ramblings and name calling.

Their egos can not handle the dawning realization that they are in fact racists... they have thought for so long they were the "enlightened", that their minds are fighting with every incoherent thought it can muster to try and maintain that façade for their own sanity.

As I said, they're racists without knowing they've been turned into racists. That would fuck anyone's mind up when they finally realize what they've become.

[Parkbandit]

Why does team Red think that American life

American life is pretty obvious... given this is America.


and southern slave owners need to be brought up in every topic?

Republicans bring up southern slave owners in every topic?

Shall we go through the threads here and illustrate how hung up you are on race (even bringing it up yet again in this post) and it might just be you that thinks everything is about race?

Or do you want to just pretend this was yet another dumb thing you posted and move on?

[Parkbandit]

Because they just spout the nonsense they've been told to believe... when you actually link them facts, literature, quotes of the purveyors of CRT, and actual documentation... all they are left with is random ramblings and name calling.

Their egos can not handle the dawning realization that they are in fact racists... they have thought for so long they were the "enlightened", that their minds are fighting with every incoherent thought it can muster to try and maintain that façade for their own sanity.

As I said, they're racists without knowing they've been turned into racists. That would fuck anyone's mind up when they finally realize what they've become.

I am rather curious as to what math textbooks were banned in Florida due to CRT in them... like I haven't been in school in decades.. but I don't remember anything but math in mine.

[Methais]

The author was a fucking PhD student in the School of Education you idiot. He was attempting to apply CRT- in what he clearly considered a novel way- to educational outcomes.

He's not a scholar of Critical Race Theory.

Someone's mad today lol.

It's time to change your mothballs.

[Methais]

American life is pretty obvious... given this is America.



Republicans bring up southern slave owners in every topic?

Shall we go through the threads here and illustrate how hung up you are on race (even bringing it up yet again in this post) and it might just be you that thinks everything is about race?

Or do you want to just pretend this was yet another dumb thing you posted and move on?

Seran hates oil because it's black.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/e0qkQNj.png

[Parkbandit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7DWj7yebM&ab_channel=ESPN

The pitcher was suspended for 4 games today.. but the batter was suspended for 2 games because he "taunted" the pitcher?

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7DWj7yebM&ab_channel=ESPN

The pitcher was suspended for 4 games today.. but the batter was suspended for 2 games because he "taunted" the pitcher?

I need to know what the dude said on his way to 3rd base. The umpire gets pissed about it and then the pitcher goes ape shit.

[Realk]

what's political? i'm good with 2 for the shit talk from the hitter... I feel a few more than 4 is deserved on the other side. Pretty sure the hitter was getting the rest of the day off anyways from the umpire. That should count for one of his suspension since words are only words.

[Methais]

REMINDER :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/71PTHN8.png

[Parkbandit]

REMINDER :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/71PTHN8.png

LOL... that's a dumb thing to put up on a "news banner"...

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/Rt2xJdb.png

[joeyb]

covid is a hoax

[Parkbandit]

covid is a hoax

You are a hoax.

[Seran]

I gotta say, it never gets old seeing these Conservative Christians as massive hypocrites about sexuality. Turns out Cawthorn loves to cross dress. When he fails to get re-elected, at least he has some potential for OnlyFans.

Exclusive: Madison Cawthorn photos reveal him wearing women’s lingerie in public setting



Photographs obtained by POLITICO appear to show Madison Cawthorn, the embattled Republican congressman from North Carolina who recently accused his GOP colleagues of inviting him to orgies, wearing lingerie in what appears to be a party setting.

Cawthorn, 26, was raised in a conservative Baptist community in Henderson County, North Carolina, and has staked his political persona on arch-traditional Christian principles and the insistence of the importance of a kind of hypermasculinity. His comments about “the sexual perversion” in Washington made on a podcast, which he later admitted were exaggerated, drew the public disapproval and disavowal of Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy as well as other Republican leaders including those in his North Carolina congressional caucus.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/22/madison-cawthorn-photos-00027286

[Parkbandit]

I gotta say, it never gets old seeing these Conservative Christians as massive hypocrites about sexuality. Turns out Cawthorn loves to cross dress. When he fails to get re-elected, at least he has some potential for OnlyFans.

Exclusive: Madison Cawthorn photos reveal him wearing women’s lingerie in public setting

I gotta say, it never gets old seeing "enlightened progressives" who preach inclusion, diversity and equity... make fun of someone being gay, trans or cross dressing.

Don't worry Seran, I'm right there with you. Fucking faggots, amirite?

[~Rocktar~]

I am rather curious as to what math textbooks were banned in Florida due to CRT in them... like I haven't been in school in decades.. but I don't remember anything but math in mine.

Ask and ye shall receive:

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2022/04/22/Bargraph_c0-0-900-524_s885x516.png?c3709c4d12639163ac11b3b9014171d00 a424efc


Florida education officials have released four images of “woke math” in textbooks they rejected last week for use in K-12 public schools.

The state’s Department of Education rejected 54 of 132 titles that textbook publishers submitted for use next year, including 71% of proposed elementary school books, because they did not meet state benchmarks or they contained examples of critical race theory and social-emotional learning.

Florida education officials said Friday that copyright law prevented them from publicizing the names and publishers of the textbooks that contain the four images, which reference “racial prejudice” in math problems and how students feel about working together on the subject.

“At this time, those who have submitted textbooks for consideration still own the material,” spokesperson Cassie Palelis told The Washington Times in an email.

A disclaimer posted with the images on the department’s website said officials are giving publishers “the opportunity to remediate all deficiencies identified during the review.”

“Based on the volume of requests the department has received for examples of problematic elements of the recently reviewed instructional materials, the following are examples provided to the department by the public and presented no conflict in sharing them,” the disclaimer reads in part.

The first image contains a polynomial math problem that asks students to analyze racial prejudice data from the Implicit Association Test, a widely challenged 1998 psychological study that purported to identify subconscious and unconscious bias against Black individuals.

In two vertical bar graphs that break down the results by age and political persuasion, the problem tells public school students that people older than 65 and conservatives have the most racial prejudice.

The second image, containing an introduction to polynomials that appears to come from the same textbook, refers to the “differences among groups” as “intriguing.”


The third and fourth images contain examples of SEL, a pedagogical emphasis on students’ feelings about studying math.

“Students build proficiency with social awareness as they practice with empathizing with classmates,” states an SEL objective in the third image.

The fourth image says the SEL objectives in each math lesson seek “to build student agency by focusing on students’ social and emotional learning.”

Conservatives see SEL lessons as a Trojan horse for introducing discussions about the alleged bias of mathematics against multicultural students, teaching them to explain their struggles in terms of racism rather than pushing them to succeed.

Leading educational publishers McGraw Hill, Cengage Learning, Savvas Learning Company and Macmillan Learning are included on Florida’s list of rejected textbooks.

Some of them defended their materials Friday.

“Savvas has a long and successful track record of working with the Florida Department of Education to ensure that our instructional materials deliver high-quality, research-based pedagogy designed intentionally to align with the current Florida standards for mathematics,” a Savvas spokesperson told ABC News.

A Macmillan Learning spokesperson said: “We were surprised and disappointed to learn that a statistics text from Bedford, Freeman & Worth Publishers (the Advanced Placement and 9-12 High School division of Macmillan Learning) was not on the approved list of titles from the state of Florida with no explanation.”

Some scholars have accused Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, of rejecting the books without providing adequate explanations for rejecting each of them.

“It is irresponsible to reject materials while refusing to provide actual examples of what is objectionable,” said James Grossman, executive director of the American Historical Association.

“This is akin to Joseph McCarthy referring to lists of communists in his pocket,” the historian added.

Jeremy C. Young, senior manager of free expression and education at the New York-based free speech advocacy group PEN America, said Friday that Florida’s examples show only that the concerns have been “terribly overstated.”

“The few examples released by the Florida Department of Education obscure more than they explain,” Mr. Young said.

“And we still don’t know why the vast majority of these textbooks were rejected, including six textbooks that according to the state’s own rubric contained no ‘special concepts’ but were rejected anyway,” he added. “The Florida DOE has a lot of explaining to do.”

Critics say CRT and SEL lessons have crept into math textbooks in recent years as part of an effort to purge math of bias toward white male rationality.

“The premise of this movement is that current K-12 math instruction is irreparably infused with racism and designed to reinforce existing power dynamics in society,” said Phil Magness, director of research and education at the libertarian American Institute for Economic Research in Massachusetts.

“They then aim to ‘decolonize’ instruction by reorienting toward explicit progressive political activism,” Mr. Magness added. “Usually this is achieved by inserting overtly political messages into textbook examples and problem sets and using them to convey social, environmental, and economic commentaries about societal inequity.”

Quisha King, senior director of education and membership at the conservative parental rights group Moms for America, said the textbooks show that the administration of Florida’s Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis “is not being hyperbolic in their assessment of woke ideology in textbooks.”

“These books are not even trying to hide their curriculum,” said Ms. King, who is Black.

She said “Thinking Mathematically,” a text from the Savvas Learning Company that Florida has restricted, contains a section on new math problems with this sentence: “New applications include student-loan debt, movie rental options, measuring racial prejudice, and many more.”

“How exactly do you ‘measure’ racial prejudice? This is just more evidence of CRT being deeply embedded into K-12 schools across America,” Ms. King said.

Sheri Few, president of the conservative U.S. Parents Involved in Education, said Florida is just the first state to target the “culturally relevant pedagogy” that many public school districts have increasingly provided to teachers in subscription-only online resources.

“Florida is setting precedent for other states and taking the bold steps necessary to root out indoctrination of America’s children,” Ms. Few said.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/22/florida-releases-examples-rejected-woke-math-textb/?fbclid=IwAR2_Gpj_jk7gFUPCSZbKckh1WBGZuCEwgQg60DGH 0qaeMS8UxzYFlrOYzmM

[Seran]

I gotta say, it never gets old seeing "enlightened progressives" who preach inclusion, diversity and equity... make fun of someone being gay, trans or cross dressing.

Don't worry Seran, I'm right there with you. Fucking faggots, amirite?

Yeah, by all means let's call a spade an orange to deflect the fact the guy is is a hypocrite for preaching southern Baptist values, shaming homosexuality himself, despite being an active crossdresser himself.

What I love about the hypocrisy of the right is their members can't do any wrong. But when they do get caught breaking the law, living in a way completely hypocritical to what they public define as good Christian values, it's all the Lefts fault. Lol

[Seran]

I gotta say, it never gets old seeing these Conservative Christians as massive hypocrites about sexuality. Turns out Cawthorn loves to cross dress. When he fails to get re-elected, at least he has some potential for OnlyFans.

Exclusive: Madison Cawthorn photos reveal him wearing women’s lingerie in public setting

Madison Cawthorn confirmed the validity of the photos taken and doubled down on just how normal it is to "do goofy things on a cruise." It'd be less ironic if it weren't from a guy who has called the LGBTQ community scummy. Especially now he's rocking a bit of the T and Q himself.

More from the cis-curious Madison Cawthorn,


I guess the left thinks goofy vacation photos during a game on a cruise (taken waaay before I ran for Congress) is going to somehow hurt me?

They're running out of things to throw at me...

Share your most embarrassing vacay pics in the replies


My gender didn’t change when I put that stuff on.

And neither does anyone else’s.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, by all means let's call a spade an orange to deflect the fact the guy is is a hypocrite for preaching southern Baptist values, shaming homosexuality himself, despite being an active crossdresser himself.

One cruise does not an "active crossdresser" make.


What I love about the hypocrisy of the right is their members can't do any wrong. But when they do get caught breaking the law, living in a way completely hypocritical to what they public define as good Christian values, it's all the Lefts fault. Lol

The lack of self awareness to even type this out baffles the mind of normal people.

Like how? How are you this devoid of any self awareness at all?

[Parkbandit]

Madison Cawthorn confirmed the validity of the photos taken and doubled down on just how normal it is to "do goofy things on a cruise." It'd be less ironic if it weren't from a guy who has called the LGBTQ community scummy. Especially now he's rocking a bit of the T and Q himself.

More from the cis-curious Madison Cawthorn,

So, if you put on girl's clothes on a cruise for 1 night... you are "rocking a bit of the T and Q himself"?

Stop pretending you are inclusive and are for diversity and equality or anything like that... you are a fucking homophobe as long as the guy dressing up as a woman is a Republican.

Stay stupid, Retard Champ.

[joeyb]

you know it's ok to just be like, 'yeah, actually, that guy isn't what we thought he was. he sucks, oh well' and move on. you don't have to defend every fucking person on your side every single time about every single thing.

also, again lol at this framing. no one gives a shit about him cross dressing. like what was already said, the hypocrisy is the issue. the pictures of this dork at hitlers hideout are way more fucked up than this stupid shit.

[Parkbandit]

you know it's ok to just be like, 'yeah, actually, that guy isn't what we thought he was. he sucks, oh well' and move on. you don't have to defend every fucking person on your side every single time about every single thing.

also, again lol at this framing. no one gives a shit about him cross dressing. like what was already said, the hypocrisy is the issue. the pictures of this dork at hitlers hideout are way more fucked up than this stupid shit.

I know zero about this guy... but if you have 1 video of being dressed up in woman's clothing, it doesn't make you "rocking a bit of the T and Q" as Seran stated.

[Methais]

Madison Cawthorn confirmed the validity of the photos taken and doubled down on just how normal it is to "do goofy things on a cruise." It'd be less ironic if it weren't from a guy who has called the LGBTQ community scummy. Especially now he's rocking a bit of the T and Q himself.

More from the cis-curious Madison Cawthorn,

I dressed up as a chick for Halloween when I was in 7th grade.

Have I been trans this whole time and just didn't realize it?

[Parkbandit]

I dressed up as a chick for Halloween when I was in 7th grade.

Have I been trans this whole time and just didn't realize it?

No but you've been gay your entire life.

GET REKT YOU FUCKING N00b! OWN3D SO HARD!

You're lame.

[Methais]

No but you've been gay your entire life.

GET REKT YOU FUCKING N00b! OWN3D SO HARD!

You're lame.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haSGAf7lvR0

[Seran]

I know zero about this guy... but if you have 1 video of being dressed up in woman's clothing, it doesn't make you "rocking a bit of the T and Q" as Seran stated.

So when Madison Cawthorn made his infamous speech in 2021 bitching about how effeminate young men were becoming due to not being raised in hypermasculine environment, he clearly wasn't referring to crossdressing as a form of gender expression, sexual fetishism or typical fratboy pseudo-homosexual degredation thrills?

Maybe "they" in his speech, should have had a carve out for GOP members or religious leaders like Jerry Falwell Jr who feel watching another man have sex with theirs wife, or enjoy the pool boy themselves is in fact hypermasculinity the GOP should support?


“Our culture today is trying to completely demasculate all the young men,” he told his audience. A video clip of the speech was shared by Right Wing Watch but it is unknown where and when it was recorded.

“You can look at the testosterone levels in young men today and they are lower than throughout all of history,” Cawthorn continued.

“There’s a lot of reasons for this that we can get into later. But my friends, they’re trying to de-masculate the young men in our country because they don’t want people who are going to stand up.

[Gelston]

Who the fuck is Madison Cawthorn?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Who doesn't believe men today are more effeminate than they were generations ago?

[Gelston]

Who doesn't believe men today are more effeminate than they were generations ago?

Depends on where you are. There have always been effeminate men, you just see more of through mass media now. Humans have and always have been humans though. Nothing we do is new.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Depends on where you are. There have always been effeminate men, you just see more of through mass media now. Humans have and always have been humans though. Nothing we do is new.

I'm not making a judgement at all. I just think we are more effeminate now than we were historically. Evolutionarily we can be.

[Gelston]

I'm not making a judgement at all. I just think we are more effeminate now than we were historically. Evolutionarily we can be.

Eh, I don't think that is the case. Not busting your ass in a field from dusk till dawn doesn't make you effeminate. But let's be honest, every Generation always thinks the current time is full of way more bitches than previous times. I bet people talked shit about the teens in the 30s too and now you can't get away with bashing that generation.

[Seran]

Who the fuck is Madison Cawthorn?

Madison Cawthorn, Republican member of the House of Representatives from North Carolina, youngest ever to serve in the House and whose gender pronouns per his Twitter profile are MA/GA believe it or not.

Also, I hear he's going to be applying a new Broadway adaptation of the Rocky Horror Picture Show as his photos make him as a shoe in to play Doctor Everett Scott.

[Gelston]

Madison Cawthorn, Republican member of the House of Representatives from North Carolina, youngest ever to serve in the House and whose gender pronouns per his Twitter profile are MA/GA believe it or not.

Also, I hear he's going to be applying a new Broadway adaptation of the Rocky Horror Picture Show as his photos make him as a shoe in to play Doctor Everett Scott.

No, I looked him up. He is as influential as "the Squad" or AOC that people keep wanting to bitch about. There are fucking kooks in both parties. He won the Republican nomination only because his people came out to vote in the Runoff primary.

[Seran]

No, I looked him up. He is as influential as "the Squad" or AOC that people keep wanting to bitch about. There are fucking kooks in both parties. He won the Republican nomination only because his people came out to vote in the Runoff primary.

Also, he had Trump's endorsement against his Democrat challenger. He also just had a MAGA rally in NC on April 9th where he was in attendance with Trump.

Soo, Trump led GOP supports GOP endorsed bro. That helps with getting voters out because a lot of Republicans still support Trump. I think a lot of us are waiting with baited breath to see if that'll change between his orgies remark and now his cross dressing photos.

Partisanship aside, Republicans ought to drop the entire social conservativism nonsense and just go back to Fiscal responsibility. Including fair tax rates for billionaires. They'd sweep if they did.

[Gelston]

Elon Musk will soon be the majority owner of Twitter. Deal worked out for 44 Billion.

[Gelston]

Also, he had Trump's endorsement against his Democrat challenger. He also just had a MAGA rally in NC on April 9th where he was in attendance with Trump.

Soo, Trump led GOP supports GOP endorsed bro. That helps with getting voters out because a lot of Republicans still support Trump. I think a lot of us are waiting with baited breath to see if that'll change between his orgies remark and now his cross dressing photos.

Partisanship aside, Republicans ought to drop the entire social conservativism nonsense and just go back to Fiscal responsibility. Including fair tax rates for billionaires. They'd sweep if they did.

Trump isn’t the Republican Party. He is the guy that owns your head though.

[Methais]

Depends on where you are. There have always been effeminate men, you just see more of through mass media now. Humans have and always have been humans though. Nothing we do is new.

This is correct.

Source: Bards

[Alfster]

Elon Musk will soon be the majority owner of Twitter. Deal worked out for 44 Billion.

Twitters tune changed pretty quick when there was financing behind it.

[Tgo01]

Twitters tune changed pretty quick when there was financing behind it.

Which is weird. Did they really think Elon Musk couldn't get the money together or what? Something else must have been going on.

[Gelston]

Which is weird. Did they really think Elon Musk couldn't get the money together or what? Something else must have been going on.

They realized they were going to be sued by investors if they didn't take the deal. They probably delayed just enough to consult lawyers and such.

basically, the buyout is for 50% more than the stocks are worth. It'd be a failure of their fiduciary responsibility if they didn't take it. I mean, if every stockholder decided it was cool, there is no issue, but with as many people owning stock, there'd undoubtedly be some that did.

[Parkbandit]

Twitters tune changed pretty quick when there was financing behind it.

Twitter's board tune changed pretty quickly when they realized they had a fiduciary duty to their stock holders.. and were pressured into taking this deal.

I hope Musk sticks to firing every single one of the board members and fixes the issues that have plagued Twitter for years.

Big losers in this deal: Woke liberals and Donald Trump.

[Seran]

They realized they were going to be sued by investors if they didn't take the deal. They probably delayed just enough to consult lawyers and such.

basically, the buyout is for 50% more than the stocks are worth. It'd be a failure of their fiduciary responsibility if they didn't take it. I mean, if every stockholder decided it was cool, there is no issue, but with as many people owning stock, there'd undoubtedly be some that did.

Twitter stock closed at $51.70 today, the tentative offer is $54.20 per share. Please show us how that's 50% more than it's worth.

[Seran]

Twitter stock closed at $51.70 today, the tentative offer is $54.20 per share. Please show us how that's 50% more than it's worth.

For the record, shareholders must approve the sale and then it's up for Federal approval of the deal. Given the shenanigans Elon Musk already has with the SEC,, and Justice, I don't think it'll be as cut and dry as many imagine.

[Parkbandit]

Twitter stock closed at $51.70 today, the tentative offer is $54.20 per share. Please show us how that's 50% more than it's worth.

Look at when Elon Musk bought 9% of the stock.. and at what price.

SPOILER: March 4th. Price was $33.39

Look at when Elon Musk's purchase went public.

SPOILER: April 4th. Price was 39.31

What it closed at today is meaningless.

[Parkbandit]

For the record, shareholders must approve the sale and then it's up for Federal approval of the deal. Given the shenanigans Elon Musk already has with the SEC,, and Justice, I don't think it'll be as cut and dry as many imagine.

Shareholders will accept it.

Feds won't have a choice but to accept it.

I know this is upsetting news for you.. but here's a silver lining: Trump's social media company will go tits up after this sale goes through.

And isn't that what is really important to you?

[Alfster]

Which is weird. Did they really think Elon Musk couldn't get the money together or what? Something else must have been going on.

My take is the board looked at what he did with Tesla and assumed this was another bluff. The second he had funding set up they took an actual look at the offer.

Don't think they were thrilled with how he failed to disclose what he owned until after he got to 9% off the shares. They probably looked at it as an attempt at a hostile takeover rather than one with actual funding behind it. Given his securities issues in the past, the board agreed accordingly until financing was in the table

[Parkbandit]

I wonder how long it will be after the sale that Democrats will be talking about regulating social media platforms...

[Seran]

Look at when Elon Musk bought 9% of the stock.. and at what price.

SPOILER: March 4th. Price was $33.39

Look at when Elon Musk's purchase went public.

SPOILER: April 4th. Price was 39.31

What it closed at today is meaningless.

$33.99 - 54.20 is not 50%. Nor is what he paid to purchase a 9% stake at all relevant to purchasing a 100% stake. Nice failed attempt at pass interference.

[Parkbandit]

$33.99 - 54.20 is not 50%. Nor is what he paid to purchase a 9% stake at all relevant to purchasing a 100% stake. Nice failed attempt at pass interference.

I don't want to tell him.....


Someone should though...

I can't because at this point it's like I'm just making fun of the retard.

[Alfster]

$33.99 - 54.20 is not 50%.

You're ironically right. It's actually closer to 60%.

[Parkbandit]

You're ironically right. It's actually closer to 60%.

https://c.tenor.com/7NdBVF53PM4AAAAd/laughing-rofl.gif

[Gelston]

For the record, shareholders must approve the sale and then it's up for Federal approval of the deal. Given the shenanigans Elon Musk already has with the SEC,, and Justice, I don't think it'll be as cut and dry as many imagine.

Regulators may examine Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter but are unlikely to sue to block it, former antitrust officials said on Monday.
(https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/25/technology/elon-musk-twitter-regulators.html#:~:text=Musk%20Buys%20Twitter-,Regulators%20are%20unlikely%20to%20block,of%20Twi tter%2C%20former%20officials%20say.&text=Regulators%20may%20examine%20Elon%20Musk's,an titrust%20officials%20said%20on%20Monday.)

Why anyone would even need that article is just beyond me. Nothing else Musk owns or has a large share in competes with Twitter.

Are you done making a fool out of yourself?

[Tgo01]

Seran for 4+ years: Trump was a Nazi dictator despot!!111!!!
Also Seran: Oh boy oh boy! I sure do hope the federal government stops a private sale between two private parties because I dislike one of the parties involved!!

[Seran]

Seran for 4+ years: Trump was a Nazi dictator despot!!111!!!
Also Seran: Oh boy oh boy! I sure do hope the federal government stops a private sale between two private parties because I dislike one of the parties involved!!

Two, one public the other private, one of which is under injunction for illegally using the other private party in aan illegal way to unjustly and criminally enrich himself.

[Alfster]

What exactly is the hate for musk in all of this? I mean, what are you worried about saran?

[Tgo01]

Two, one public the other private

Seran up until yesterday: Twitter is a private company! They can do whatever they want!!!111!!!
Seran today: Twitter is a public company.

You're confusing investing terms for other terms. Twitter right now is very much a private company. What you mean is they are a publicly traded company. Nice try though.

[Seran]

What exactly is the hate for musk in all of this? I mean, what are you worried about saran?

Months and months of illegal stock manipulation and insider trading, followed by inevitable SEC enforcement and court battles with that idiot confusing free speech with felony insider trading.

[Parkbandit]

Are you done making a fool out of yourself?


Two, one public the other private, one of which is under injunction for illegally using the other private party in aan illegal way to unjustly and criminally enrich himself.

Nope.

[Parkbandit]

What exactly is the hate for musk in all of this? I mean, what are you worried about saran?

THE EXCHANGE OF FREE THOUGHTS! THIS IS WHAT DESTROYS DEMOCRATS, I MEAN DEMOCRACY!

[Parkbandit]

Months and months of illegal stock manipulation and insider trading, followed by inevitable SEC enforcement and court battles with that idiot confusing free speech with felony insider trading.

In this one sentence, you illustrated perfectly that you know nothing about:

1) How long a month is.
2) What insider trading is.
3) What an idiot is (SPOILER: Look in a mirror)
4) What a felony is.
5) What illegal means.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/279301191_3307572372793988_51059802361281383_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=HGV-R6rIZDUAX_4hJpo&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AT_A-_8502n410cdoD8CIWFCexyPtXGp8ArNKMZss61tBQ&oe=626D6652

[Methais]

Twitter stock closed at $51.70 today, the tentative offer is $54.20 per share. Please show us how that's 50% more than it's worth.

Is there anything at all on this planet that you have even the slightest clue of how it works? Anything? A doorknob or a light switch even? Holy fuck you are beyond dumb and are still convinced that you're the expert on everything. :lol:

[Methais]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/279301191_3307572372793988_51059802361281383_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=HGV-R6rIZDUAX_4hJpo&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AT_A-_8502n410cdoD8CIWFCexyPtXGp8ArNKMZss61tBQ&oe=626D6652

Robert Reich is cancer.

I bet Seran loves him.

[Seran]

In this one sentence, you illustrated perfectly that you know nothing about:

1) How long a month is.
2) What insider trading is.
3) What an idiot is (SPOILER: Look in a mirror)
4) What a felony is.
5) What illegal means.

Well it seems the SEC disagrees with your assessment, having charged Elon Musk with securities fraud, which is a felony. Felony acts not legal acts, so I'm not sure what motor neuron failure prompted you to type that idiotic statement.



Elon Musk Settles SEC Fraud Charges; Tesla Charged With and Resolves Securities Law Charge

Settlement Requires Musk to Step Down as Tesla’s Chairman; Tesla to Appoint Additional Independent Directors; Tesla and Musk Agree to Pay $40 Million in Penalties

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226

[Parkbandit]

Well it seems the SEC disagrees with your assessment, having charged Elon Musk with securities fraud, which is a felony. Felony acts not legal acts, so I'm not sure what motor neuron failure prompted you to type that idiotic statement.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226

You were talking about his purchase of Twitter though... this was something that happened 4 years ago.

Time, like math, seems to really confuse you.

Why?

[Seran]

You were talking about his purchase of Twitter though... this was something that happened 4 years ago.

Time, like math, seems to really confuse you.

Why?

Wow, it's almost as if the topic was in fact why I felt so many fee fees about Elon Musk taking over Twitter and establishing the reason behind my opinion. Hurr durr

[Gelston]

Well it seems the SEC disagrees with your assessment, having charged Elon Musk with securities fraud, which is a felony. Felony acts not legal acts, so I'm not sure what motor neuron failure prompted you to type that idiotic statement.


[B]

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226

The SEC can't levy criminal charges. They can only levy civil charges, and there isn't a such thing as a felony civil charge. Criminal matters are handled by the FBI, unless the FBI charged him and he went to trial and was found guilty, no felony was ever committed.

Magical that you don't know wtf you're talking about though.

[Methais]

Well it seems the SEC disagrees with your assessment, having charged Elon Musk with securities fraud, which is a felony. Felony acts not legal acts, so I'm not sure what motor neuron failure prompted you to type that idiotic statement.


[B]

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-226

Setting aside your overall cluelessness about pretty much everything in general...

https://i.imgur.com/ruh5O0z.png (https://fortune.com/2022/04/14/elon-musk-interview-sec-settlement-asperger-syndrome-tesla-twitter/)
https://fortune.com/2022/04/14/elon-musk-interview-sec-settlement-asperger-syndrome-tesla-twitter/

He talked about this on the TED talk from a week or two ago.

28:00

https://youtu.be/cdZZpaB2kDM

Or in case you're too stupid to fast forward to the timestamp: https://youtu.be/cdZZpaB2kDM?t=1680


I'm less inclined to believe the government in most situations, and the SEC is notoriously full of shit in general as it is. Like the shitshow they've been wrapped up in with their lawsuit against Ripple (XRP) that they keep making themselves look like stupid corrupt fucks over and over.

[Seran]

The SEC can't levy criminal charges. They can only levy civil charges, and there isn't a such thing as a felony civil charge. Criminal matters are handled by the FBI, unless the FBI charged him and he went to trial and was found guilty, no felony was ever committed.

Magical that you don't know wtf you're talking about though.

How awesome is that that you understand the SEC is responsible for making securities fraud referrals to the FBI. Less awesome that you don't understand that the SEC reached a settlement agreement with Elon Musk whose terms specifically preempted their stated charge of securities fraud from proceeding to the FBI so long as he abided by the terms.


The federal securities statute described under 18 U.S.C. § 1348 is patterned after the mail fraud and wire fraud statutes, and states it's a federal crime defraud anyone in connection with a security or commodity, or to obtain any money or property from the purchase or sale a security, by using means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises.


shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both.

[Gelston]

How awesome is that that you understand the SEC is responsible for making securities fraud referrals to the FBI. Less awesome that you don't understand that the SEC reached a settlement agreement with Elon Musk whose terms specifically preempted their stated charge of securities fraud from proceeding to the FBI so long as he abided by the terms.

The post of mine you quoted said exactly that it is the FBI that does criminal charges. In the case you are speaking of they did not. So there is no felony here. It wasn't a criminal charge or criminal trial. You said he was a felon, you said he was convicted of a felony, he was not. You said they charged Elon Musk with a felony, which they cannot do. Again, you were just wrong.

[Methais]

The post of mine you quoted said exactly that it is the FBI that does criminal charges. In the case you are speaking of they did not. So there is no felony here. It wasn't a criminal charge or criminal trial. You said he was a felon, you said he was convicted of a felony, he was not. You said they charged Elon Musk with a felony, which they cannot do. Again, you were just wrong.

You're giving Seran way too much credit for thinking he's going to understand anything you just said.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QatDegv7Yj4

ROFL.. but I thought they said that the Tech companies don't do that hahahaha.. now MSNBC is worried lol.

[Seran]

The post of mine you quoted said exactly that it is the FBI that does criminal charges. In the case you are speaking of they did not. So there is no felony here. It wasn't a criminal charge or criminal trial. You said he was a felon, you said he was convicted of a felony, he was not. You said they charged Elon Musk with a felony, which they cannot do. Again, you were just wrong.

You know, if you split enough hairs you might end up convincing yourself of the validity of your own argument, but I'm not buying it. I said my concern was felonious acts of insider trader trading, then proceeded to point out where the SEC charged him with the same felonious acts of securities fraud. That he settled the case to avoid a criminal referral doesn't dismiss the underlying acts. He broke a law, got caught, was called out, admitted his culpability and settled.

[Gelston]

You know, if you split enough hairs you might end up convincing yourself of the validity of your own argument, but I'm not buying it. I said my concern was felonious acts of insider trader trading, then proceeded to point out where the SEC charged him with the same felonious acts of securities fraud. That he settled the case to avoid a criminal referral doesn't dismiss the underlying acts. He broke a law, got caught, was called out, admitted his culpability and settled.

It isn't splitting hairs. You accused him of having a felony. He didn't. He never went to any trial, he was never found guilty of having a felony. I guess you just enjoy saying anyone ever accused of anything is guilty though.

Again, the SEC cannot accuse anyone of a felony act. They can only turn over their investigation to the FBI which can then accuse someone of a felony act. If he had committed a felony, the FBI would be going at him. The also investigate independently, regardless of any deal with the SEC.

[Parkbandit]

You know, if you split enough hairs you might end up convincing yourself of the validity of your own argument, but I'm not buying it. I said my concern was felonious acts of insider trader trading, then proceeded to point out where the SEC charged him with the same felonious acts of securities fraud. That he settled the case to avoid a criminal referral doesn't dismiss the underlying acts. He broke a law, got caught, was called out, admitted his culpability and settled.

This is on par with your confusion about 50% increase in stock price.

[Seran]

It isn't splitting hairs. You accused him of having a felony. He didn't. He never went to any trial, he was never found guilty of having a felony. I guess you just enjoy saying anyone ever accused of anything is guilty though.

Again, the SEC cannot accuse anyone of a felony act. They can only turn over their investigation to the FBI which can then accuse someone of a felony act. If he had committed a felony, the FBI would be going at him. The also investigate independently, regardless of any deal with the SEC.

The SEC charged him with securities fraud, you obviously didn't read the link. You're so busily trying to downplay the fact in front of you that it's mystifying. I like even more than you keep trying to reinterpret what I said. It's funny.

[Seran]

This is on par with your confusion about 50% increase in stock price.

Yeah, I thought that was funny too, comparing a $51 closing with a $54 buyout offer and calling that a 50% premium. Gelston is a fool.

[Alfster]

https://c.tenor.com/7NdBVF53PM4AAAAd/laughing-rofl.gif


Yeah, I thought that was funny too, comparing a $51 closing with a $54 buyout offer and calling that a 50% premium. Gelston is a fool.

No. You argued that 33.99 to 54 wasn't somehow at least 50% increase.

How much of an increase is that? Please . No one spoil this

[Gelston]

The SEC charged him with securities fraud, you obviously didn't read the link. You're so busily trying to downplay the fact in front of you that it's mystifying. I like even more than you keep trying to reinterpret what I said. It's funny.

The SEC can't really "charge" anyone with anything. They sue for violations. If something is criminally illegal, they send the information to the FBI. Nothing they do is criminal, at all. Again, you're just 100% wrong.

[Gelston]

Yeah, I thought that was funny too, comparing a $51 closing with a $54 buyout offer and calling that a 50% premium. Gelston is a fool.

The premium was based on when he made the offer, not what if jumped to. Stop being dense. Admit you are wrong.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, I thought that was funny too, comparing a $51 closing with a $54 buyout offer and calling that a 50% premium. Gelston is a fool.

lol wut?

This is what you posted:


$33.99 - 54.20 is not 50%. Nor is what he paid to purchase a 9% stake at all relevant to purchasing a 100% stake. Nice failed attempt at pass interference.

Someone with the tiniest bit of self awareness would just let this go... but you don't because somehow in your tiny little head, you still think that 33.99 to 54.20 is not at least 50%...

Because you are the dumbest among everyone here.. and thus our GOAT Retard Champion. I'll have to take down one of Backlash's quotes in the Retard Hall of Fame for this retardation.

[Seran]

The SEC can't really "charge" anyone with anything. They sue for violations. If something is criminally illegal, they send the information to the FBI. Nothing they do is criminal, at all. Again, you're just 100% wrong.

Completely overlooking the fact the SEC released its own statement saying they were charging him with securities violations. They did. He settled.

[Seran]

They realized they were going to be sued by investors if they didn't take the deal. They probably delayed just enough to consult lawyers and such.

basically, the buyout is for 50% more than the stocks are worth. It'd be a failure of their fiduciary responsibility if they didn't take it. I mean, if every stockholder decided it was cool, there is no issue, but with as many people owning stock, there'd undoubtedly be some that did.

This was Gelston's quote, then I pointed out the stock closed above $51 dollars, versus his standing offer of just over $54.

[Seran]

Twitter stock closed at $51.70 today, the tentative offer is $54.20 per share. Please show us how that's 50% more than it's worth.

Could it be any more clear.

[Seran]

Look at when Elon Musk bought 9% of the stock.. and at what price.

SPOILER: March 4th. Price was $33.39

Look at when Elon Musk's purchase went public.

SPOILER: April 4th. Price was 39.31

What it closed at today is meaningless.

This fuck nugget then muddied the waters with completely irrelevant information.

[Tgo01]

It's an insult to shitshows to call Seran a shitshow anymore. I don't even know what to call him now.

[Parkbandit]

This fuck nugget then muddied the waters with completely irrelevant information.

Sorry I confused you so much.

That must have been it.. you were just confused when you posted this:


$33.99 - 54.20 is not 50%. Nor is what he paid to purchase a 9% stake at all relevant to purchasing a 100% stake. Nice failed attempt at pass interference.

[Parkbandit]

It's an insult to shitshows to call Seran a shitshow anymore. I don't even know what to call him now.

You will call him what he has earned: The PC Retard Champion.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGJIsLY8UlI

Who was the President that supposedly was going to start WW3 again? LOL

Would be even more hilarious if we didn't all have to suffer for the idiocy of a specific political affiliation, but alas.. here we are.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Who was the President that supposedly was going to start WW3 again? LOL

Would be even more hilarious if we didn't all have to suffer for the idiocy of a specific political affiliation, but alas.. here we are.

Have you seen the stock market or inflation since Biden was elected? I mean, lets get some mean tweets going or something.

[Gelston]

You’re an idiot, sedan.

[Seran]

Looks like Elon Musk isn't going to get a break from the SEC settlement he signed. Which is just too bad, he's such a well liked scam artist.


Judge knocks down Elon Musk’s bid to end SEC consent decree

A federal judge denied Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s bid to end a settlement agreement he struck with the SEC after it charged him with securities fraud in 2018.

The judge also denied Musk’s request to quash part of a newer subpoena by the federal financial regulators.

In his opinion, Judge Lewis J. Liman shot down an argument Musk attorneys made suggesting that the settlement agreement had chilled the CEO’s right to free speech.

A federal judge on Wednesday knocked down Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s bid to terminate a settlement agreement he struck with the Securities and Exchange Commission after the agency charged him with securities fraud in September 2018. The judge also denied Musk’s motion to quash a newer subpoena by the SEC.

The financial regulators had charged Tesla and Musk with making “false and misleading” statements to investors when the CEO announced on Twitter on Aug. 7, 2018, that he was thinking of taking the automaker private at $420 a share and had “funding secured.”

As part of a settlement agreement, Tesla and Musk each agreed to pay a $20 million fine. Musk also had to relinquish his role as chairman at Tesla for three years and agreed not to claim innocence or deny the allegations of the SEC’s complaint.


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/27/judge-knocks-down-elon-musks-bid-to-end-sec-consent-decree.html

[Alfster]

That's precisely why the board opted for a poison pill until he had funding. Once his funding was secure it's no longer a bluff

[Tgo01]

Leave it to Seran to be totally okay with what the corrupt SEC is doing.

Seriously. Musk makes some random musing on Twitter of all places and that is somehow "misleading investors"?

The entire federal system is corrupt, and Seran is perfectly okay with that as long as a Democrat is masquerading as president!

[Bhaalizmo]

Leave it to TGO1 to be whining about some shit.

WAAAAAAH. Waa random waa on Twitter. Waah"?

Whining. Complaining. and TGO1 is perfectly okay with that as long as WAAAAAH!

There. I tried.

[Shaps]

Yea.. and Trump was working with Russia too.

I mean, what could ever be the reason a random Judge would suddenly cancel an agreed upon deal between a private citizen and the SEC? Oh what... could... it... be? Hmmmmm...

I'm sure it's all just a big coincidence.

[Tgo01]

Oh yeah, a federal judge told Biden to keep title 42 in place. So much for Seran's misinformation claiming that no judge has gone against Biden. This is at least two times now Biden has done something unconstitutional by Seran's standards.

[Neveragain]

Leave it to Seran to be totally okay with what the corrupt SEC is doing.

Seriously. Musk makes some random musing on Twitter of all places and that is somehow "misleading investors"?

The entire federal system is corrupt, and Seran is perfectly okay with that as long as a Democrat is masquerading as president!

Kind of how the EPA is dragging it's feet at Boca Chica. This administration straight up has it out for this guy.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyrf5wLit34


Watch all the arguments they'll try to make LOL... sad part is, no rational person wants anyone cancelled... the Left has just had a fucking monopoly on it for years - and the idea of an actual "town forum" that they can't censor scares the shit out of them.

That's because rational ideas win out - when they're not suppressed by ideologues.

[Gelston]

People are all upset that a billionaire is taking over Twitter, neglecting the fact that billionaires basically own everything else.

And guess what Seran, the SEC still can't charge, nor convict someone of a felony. They can only launch lawsuits and clue in the FBI.

[Seran]

Kind of how the EPA is dragging it's feet at Boca Chica. This administration straight up has it out for this guy.

EPA? The FAA and the Army Corps of Engineers are responsible for the Boca Chica expansion permit and just recently ACoE closed the application as SpaceX was non-responsive on needed information for the project that expand heavy rocket launches from southern Texas.
Elon Musk commuted securities violations, slapped down by SEC
Elon Musk isn't communicating with federal government over their rocket facilities permit, slapped down by Army Corps.

Biggest problem Elon Musk and his family of companies is the actions of Elon Musk.

[Methais]

This was Gelston's quote, then I pointed out the stock closed above $51 dollars, versus his standing offer of just over $54.

What was the price before Elon bought? What would be the price if he dumped it all, which is what would have happened if his buyout offer got turned down? Stop being a fucking moron who has no idea how prices and charts work.


There. I tried.

Stop being a mouth breather and come back when your creativity is at least on par with an amoeba.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The government created a disinformation board.

[Methais]

Biggest problem Elon Musk and his family of companies is MSNBC told me that he makes me soooooooooooooooooooooo mad!!!!!

This is correct.

[Parkbandit]

The government created a disinformation board.

Jesus Christ.. really?

Like what?

[~Rocktar~]

Jesus Christ.. really?

Like what?

Yep.

Here is a Leftist piece on the person appointed to head it up by the DHS shitbag Mayorkas.

https://www.newsweek.com/who-nina-jankowicz-head-joe-biden-disinformation-governance-board-1701677

[Seran]

Maybe it's time Madison Cawthorn finally comes out? Between his crossdressing and what appears to be a very special bromance with one of his staffers, it appears our hate mongering social conservative meant everyone else when he vilified homosexuals as being disgusting. As usual, Republicans display their utter hypocrisy by living the lives they tell the rest of us are immoral and evil.


EXCLUSIVE: 'I would like to see a naked body beneath my hands.' GOP Rep Madison Cawthorn is caught on video with male scheduler's hand on his crotch as new ethics complaint claims the congressman gave him thousands of dollars in loans and gifts, Footage obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com shows Rep. Madison Cawthorn, 26, in a car with his close aide and staffer Stephen Smith, 23

New video of scandal-ridden GOP Rep Madison Cawthorn having his crotch felt by a close male friend and staff member is at the center of a complaint calling for an investigation into him and filed with the Office of Congressional Ethics today, DailyMail.com can reveal.


The extraordinary footage, obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com and seen here for the first time today, shows Cawthorn, 26, in a car with his close aide and his scheduler Stephen Smith, 23.


Cawthorn sits in the driver's seat apparently filmed by Smith as he adopts an exaggerated accent and says, 'I feel the passion and desire and would like to see a naked body beneath my hands.'


READ MORE


The camera then pans back to Smith who says, 'Me too' as Cawthorn can be heard laughing. Smith then films himself reaching his hand over and into Cawthorn's crotch.


The video is one of several exhibits filed in support of the ethics complaint drafted by political group Fire Madison Cawthorn.


Cawthorn appeared to allude to the scandal on Thursday in a tweet which said: 'Many of my colleagues would be nowhere near politics if they had grown up with a cell phone in their hands.'



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764209/GOP-Rep-Madison-Cawthorn-caught-video-male-staff-members-hand-crotch.html

https://firemadison.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Wheeler-Ethics-Complaint-Re-Rep-Cawthorn-and-Stephen-L-Smith.pdf

[Gelston]

Stephen Smith? WTF is Stan Smith's son doing feeling up dudes?

[Parkbandit]

Maybe it's time Madison Cawthorn finally comes out? Between his crossdressing and what appears to be a very special bromance with one of his staffers, it appears our hate mongering social conservative meant everyone else when he vilified homosexuals as being disgusting. As usual, Republicans display their utter hypocrisy by living the lives they tell the rest of us are immoral and evil.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764209/GOP-Rep-Madison-Cawthorn-caught-video-male-staff-members-hand-crotch.html

https://firemadison.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Wheeler-Ethics-Complaint-Re-Rep-Cawthorn-and-Stephen-L-Smith.pdf

What a fucking faggot, amirite Seran?

Fucking tranny queer bastards.

[Parkbandit]

Also, if he's disabled from the waist down.. would he know if someone had their hand on his crotch?

[Methais]

Maybe it's time Madison Cawthorn finally comes out? Between his crossdressing and what appears to be a very special bromance with one of his staffers, it appears our hate mongering social conservative meant everyone else when he vilified homosexuals as being disgusting. As usual, Republicans display their utter hypocrisy by living the lives they tell the rest of us are immoral and evil.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764209/GOP-Rep-Madison-Cawthorn-caught-video-male-staff-members-hand-crotch.html

https://firemadison.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Wheeler-Ethics-Complaint-Re-Rep-Cawthorn-and-Stephen-L-Smith.pdf



From the article:


Another made by the representative to his staff member four days later reads, 'The stuff we did in Amsterdam.'

The following day on June 21 Cawthorn made a payment to Smith for, 'The quickie at the airport.'

Four days later Smith makes a payment to Cawthorn 'For loving me daily and nightly.'

One note on a payment made by Smith to Cawthorn on December 13, 2018, reads simply, 'Nudes.'

It is not clear if the two twenty-somethings added those tags as a joke.

And here's the screenshot right below it with more payment activity:

https://i.imgur.com/BQGSKzl.png

"iT iS nOt ClEaR iF tHe TaGs WeRe A jOkE!!!"

In before Seran accuses him of actual breaking and entering.

[Seran]

Maybe it's time Madison Cawthorn finally comes out? Between his crossdressing and what appears to be a very special bromance with one of his staffers, it appears our hate mongering social conservative meant everyone else when he vilified homosexuals as being disgusting. As usual, Republicans display their utter hypocrisy by living the lives they tell the rest of us are immoral and evil.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10764209/GOP-Rep-Madison-Cawthorn-caught-video-male-staff-members-hand-crotch.html

https://firemadison.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Wheeler-Ethics-Complaint-Re-Rep-Cawthorn-and-Stephen-L-Smith.pdf

I for one am looking forward to the very public investigation called for by fellow GOP House members into insider trading charges involving Cawthorn's involvement with the Let's Go Brandon cryptocurrency, on top of the obvious campaign finance violations Cawthorn's committed for his same sex partner.

[Methais]

I for one am looking forward to the very public investigation called for by fellow GOP House members into insider trading charges involving Cawthorn's involvement with the Let's Go Brandon cryptocurrency, on top of the obvious campaign finance violations Cawthorn's committed for his same sex partner.

gg replying to yourself so that you can agree with yourself

[Parkbandit]

I for one am looking forward to the very public investigation called for by fellow GOP House members into insider trading charges involving Cawthorn's involvement with the Let's Go Brandon cryptocurrency, on top of the obvious campaign finance violations Cawthorn's committed for his same sex partner.

Wrong login?

Fucking retard.

[Seran]

That's cute, the Conservashits never heard of a follow up post.

[Methais]

That's cute, the Conservashits never heard of a follow up post.

That's cute, Seran doesn't know how to use the EDIT feature. :lol:

[Parkbandit]

That's cute, the Conservashits never heard of a follow up post.

I need to look into this Crawthorn guy... I haven't seen you this upset and triggered since the election of 2016.

You think he's lookin thicc too?

[Seran]

I need to look into this Crawthorn guy... I haven't seen you this upset and triggered since the election of 2016.

You think he's lookin thicc too?

You totally should. His radical right wing agenda, false religious community, MAGA support and closeted LGBT hatred fits your bill perfectly.

[Gelston]

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/279357512_10159937298539313_5978033957719091337_n. jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=iJ1WXU1UiIAAX_JsXVG&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AT8lbtvBK0NJ09JprcBv21C8aMYVAWA7lXZ5yoRBhfGN LA&oe=62705A31

[Parkbandit]

You totally should. His radical right wing agenda, false religious community, MAGA support and closeted LGBT hatred fits your bill perfectly.

The only one here who's got some LGBTQ hatred is you... illustrated perfectly in this thread.

And it's not closeted at all.

[Seran]

The only one here who's got some LGBTQ hatred is you... illustrated perfectly in this thread.

And it's not closeted at all.

In your world, exposing the hypocrisy of those who spread hate for a cause is the same as hating the cause itself. That, is, terrifying.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/279268316_305396558448945_3412157781973454889_n.jp g?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=kHgD7LISt5kAX-_0TgO&tn=LCI0xfiHfig-xse9&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=00_AT8m8Z_nPHP39fdtj-aKsvrZ34HifoPo9Ag2Is0rY3HHdA&oe=627152D8

[Parkbandit]

In your world, exposing the hypocrisy of those who spread hate for a cause is the same as hating the cause itself. That, is, terrifying.

In your world, it's ok to call someone a closeted tranny as long as you disagree with them politically. That, is, hypocrisy.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/ub8Ly1E.png

Other than Seran, I wonder who she expects to believe that. :lol:

[Seran]

In your world, it's ok to call someone a closeted tranny as long as you disagree with them politically. That, is, hypocrisy.

Pointing out someone has poorly hidden their love for men and cross-dressing by showing the evidence literally of them being in drag and being physical with another guy is nowhere close to what he does when calling homosexuality disgusting. You ought to go get therapy.

[Seran]

Using Parkbandits methodology, overthrowing violent dictators is hypocrisy because of violence. Guess he/she/they believe whomever commits violence and hate is immune from culpability

PB must also think police using firearms to stop a rampaging gunman is unacceptable because it's hypocritical too. What an idiot

[Parkbandit]

Pointing out someone has poorly hidden their love for men and cross-dressing by showing the evidence literally of them being in drag and being physical with another guy is nowhere close to what he does when calling homosexuality disgusting. You ought to go get therapy.

There is no therapy that would work on you to make you even somewhat socially normal.

I just find progressives like you funny (and not funny haha, but funny extremely strange and hypocritical) since you claim you are very inclusive to all regardless of race, sex, orientation, etc... but you immediately prove otherwise when you see someone you disagree with and call them derogatory terms based upon a sliver of "evidence"...

[Parkbandit]

Using Parkbandits methodology, overthrowing violent dictators is hypocrisy because of violence. Guess he/she/they believe whomever commits violence and hate is immune from culpability

PB must also think police using firearms to stop a rampaging gunman is unacceptable because it's hypocritical too. What an idiot

You aren't using any methodology at all.

You are just being a retard, using Seranology and to normal people, it makes no sense at all.

Stick to picking your nose and eating it.. dipshit.

[Methais]

Pointing out someone has poorly hidden their love for men and cross-dressing by showing the evidence literally of them being in drag and being physical with another guy is nowhere close to what he does when calling homosexuality disgusting. You ought to go get therapy.

Is he guilty of breaking and entering too? I mean it literally said BREAKING AND ENTERING in his payment history and all.

[Shaps]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/black-lungs-matter-fda-proposes-140857042.html

"FDA Proposes Ban On Menthol Cigarettes That Affect Black Communities Disproportionately"

"If menthol cigarettes were to be outlawed, the agency estimates a 15 percent decrease in smoking within the next 40 years, helping to save the lives of 92,000 to 238,000 African Americans from smoke-related deaths."


https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-02-01/minority-women-most-affected-if-abortion-is-banned-limited

"Minority Women Most Affected if Abortion Is Banned, Limited"


Now, reconcile those two concepts in your mind. ROFL.. shit is hilarious if you actually think about it.

-States and voters can choose to allow abortion or not potentially... US is racist, sexist, everyotheristthereisist...
-Dems care about black people... no menthols!
-Dems care about black people... The community with the highest % of abortions should be allowed to keep getting abortions and killing black people.

Think about it.... LOL... can't make this shit up.

[drauz]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/black-lungs-matter-fda-proposes-140857042.html

"FDA Proposes Ban On Menthol Cigarettes That Affect Black Communities Disproportionately"

"If menthol cigarettes were to be outlawed, the agency estimates a 15 percent decrease in smoking within the next 40 years, helping to save the lives of 92,000 to 238,000 African Americans from smoke-related deaths."


https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-02-01/minority-women-most-affected-if-abortion-is-banned-limited

"Minority Women Most Affected if Abortion Is Banned, Limited"


Now, reconcile those two concepts in your mind. ROFL.. shit is hilarious if you actually think about it.

-States and voters can choose to allow abortion or not potentially... US is racist, sexist, everyotheristthereisist...
-Dems care about black people... no menthols!
-Dems care about black people... The community with the highest % of abortions should be allowed to keep getting abortions and killing black people.

Think about it.... LOL... can't make this shit up.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/p0905-racial-ethnic-disparities-pregnancy-deaths.html

Yes, they are affected the most.

[Shaps]

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2019/p0905-racial-ethnic-disparities-pregnancy-deaths.html

Yes, they are affected the most.

So your solution to this dichotomy is that, abortions for more POCs is the correct path? To save POCs lives?


Or maybe.. just maybe.. if you read further down... the solution is to improve overall health care in those communities?

“These disparities are devastating for families and communities and we must work to eliminate them,” said Emily Petersen, M.D., medical officer at CDC’s Division of Reproductive Health and lead author of the report. “There is an urgent need to identify and evaluate the complex factors contributing to these disparities and to design interventions that will reduce preventable pregnancy-related deaths.”

[drauz]

So your solution to this dichotomy is that, abortions for more POCs is the correct path? To save POCs lives?


Or maybe.. just maybe.. if you read further down... the solution is to improve overall health care in those communities?

“These disparities are devastating for families and communities and we must work to eliminate them,” said Emily Petersen, M.D., medical officer at CDC’s Division of Reproductive Health and lead author of the report. “There is an urgent need to identify and evaluate the complex factors contributing to these disparities and to design interventions that will reduce preventable pregnancy-related deaths.”

Of course that should be done, but it's not a magic wand that can be waved and poof it's done. You are talking about years to even possibly get started on that. I also don't think abortions to be morally wrong. It should be a woman's choice what happens to her body, not the government.

[Tgo01]

It should be a woman's choice what happens to her body, not the government.

Who gets to decide what happens to the fetus' body?

[drauz]

Who gets to decide what happens to the fetus' body?

No one, they aren't a person. They aren't granted life or liberty, like the woman is supposed to have, according to current law.

Though I'm not personally convinced past like 16-20 weeks.

Let me ask you this, why do you think killing a fetus is morally wrong? When do you believe all that stuff becomes a person? Conception?

If we differ wildly on that point then there is no real point to a discussion.

[Neveragain]

Who gets to decide what happens to the fetus' body?

This is where science will be thrown out the window.

[Neveragain]

No one, they aren't a person. They aren't granted life or liberty, like the woman is supposed to have, according to current law.

Remember when the pro-slavers said black people weren't people either, because of the laws?

[Seran]

Who gets to decide what happens to the fetus' body?

What happens with cancers, necrotic tissues, pulled teeth? If it has value, it's studied, if it's worthless it is discarded. Just because a melon seed begins to sprout from my compost heap means I'm obligated to transplant and grow it. It has no objective value to me and I'd do what I want with my perceived garbage. Because you ascribe a moral value to a non-viable fetus or embryo doesn give you or your conservative friends the right to force it to term.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Let me ask you this, why do you think killing a fetus is morally wrong? When do you believe all that stuff becomes a person? Conception?

If we differ wildly on that point then there is no real point to a discussion.

Why do you say that? People of wildly differing opinions should discuss all the time IMO. If you assume because someone has a very different opinion than you that it's not worth talking about, what happens if your opinion (or their opinion) is completely wrong? One of you just goes on being ignorant?

I have internal debates with myself on stupid things like "man I love me some steak, but I'd only kill a cow if it was the apocalypse" because as I've grown older I feel sympathy for anything with eyes.

[Seran]

Remember when the pro-slavers said black people weren't people either, because of the laws?

Hey, remember with the Catholic Church used to burn people alive, crucify them or permanently mutilate them for teaching basic sciences even first graders know now? Does that mean we should be banning catholics from public office using your hyperbolic logic?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

What happens with cancers, necrotic tissues, pulled teeth? If it has value, it's studied, if it's worthless it is discarded. Just because a melon seed begins to sprout from my compost heap means I'm obligated to transplant and grow it. It has no objective value to me and I'd do what I want with my perceived garbage. Because you ascribe a moral value to a non-viable fetus or embryo doesn give you or your conservative friends the right to force it to term.

If I kill a pregnant woman is it one murder or two? Should the sentencing be different? If I stab a pregnant woman in the belly and kill her child, is it murder or just assault?

[Tgo01]

No one, they aren't a person.

Who decided that exactly? When does the fetus finally become a person exactly?

[Tgo01]

If I kill a pregnant woman is it one murder or two? Should the sentencing be different? If I stab a pregnant woman in the belly and kill her child, is it murder or just assault?

The crazy thing is at one time killing a woman's unborn child wasn't considered a crime, until one day a jealous ex-husband beat his pregnant ex-wife's belly until her new lover's child was killed and he wasn't charged with a crime (other than the assault on the woman). Then the government passed laws considering the fetus a person, both in an attempt to protect the unborn child AND the woman.

Now Democrats want to go backwards. Already in NY they don't consider it a crime for ANYONE to kill a pregnant woman's unborn child, whether the woman wants the child killed or not, and already the exact same scenario I described above which created laws to protect women in the first place has already happened in NY and once again no crimes were committed by said man.

Democrats don't give a single shit about protecting women or the sanctity of human life, they just care about power at any cost.

[Neveragain]

Hey, remember with the Catholic Church used to burn people alive, crucify them or permanently mutilate them for teaching basic sciences even first graders know now? Does that mean we should be banning catholics from public office using your hyperbolic logic?

We did ban religions from performing said acts. Now if we can just ban the Alt-left death cult from performing child sacrifices.

[Neveragain]

Who decided that exactly? When does the fetus finally become a person exactly?

I think this calls for analyzing the definitions.

Person: "a human being regarded as an individual."

Individual: "a single human being as distinct from a group, class, or family"

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

[Gelston]

killing a fetus

So you do believe it is killing a life form?

[drauz]

Why do you say that? People of wildly differing opinions should discuss all the time IMO. If you assume because someone has a very different opinion than you that it's not worth talking about, what happens if your opinion (or their opinion) is completely wrong? One of you just goes on being ignorant?

I have internal debates with myself on stupid things like "man I love me some steak, but I'd only kill a cow if it was the apocalypse" because as I've grown older I feel sympathy for anything with eyes.

Because that particular point is a lot of the time a religious reason. I'm not going to try to argue why I think their religion is wrong, that's a waste of time.

[drauz]

So you do believe it is killing a life form?

Yes, that doesn't mean I think it is a person.

[drauz]

Who decided that exactly? When does the fetus finally become a person exactly?

That is my opinion because I was asked the question.

I think once they are viable outside the womb they are person.

Now answer my questions, I'm not having a one sided interrogation.

[Neveragain]

Yes, that doesn't mean I think it is a person.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/a5bcb67912427dd3f4a96a86bb3c1269/tumblr_ozsrnxtzWz1u1ljrzo1_400.gifv

[Tgo01]

That is my opinion because I was asked the question.

I think once they are viable outside the womb they are person.

Now answer my questions, I'm not having a one sided interrogation.

So you believe late term abortions are wrong?

[drauz]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/a5bcb67912427dd3f4a96a86bb3c1269/tumblr_ozsrnxtzWz1u1ljrzo1_400.gifv

https://c.tenor.com/Sody1_w4DdYAAAAC/judge-judy-playing-dumb.gif

[drauz]

So you believe late term abortions are wrong?

Well this isn't going anywhere, so have fun with yourself.

[Methais]

Democrats don't give a single shit about protecting women or the sanctity of human life, they just care about power at any cost.

This is correct. And Seran is very upset that you said this.

[Parkbandit]

That is my opinion because I was asked the question.

I think once they are viable outside the womb they are person.

Now answer my questions, I'm not having a one sided interrogation.

So, once that cluster of cells is viable outside the womb, then the "It's the woman's choice what to do with her body" logic is completely discarded like a 3 week fetus and now you want to protect the non-person that is literally sucking the life away from this poor, poor woman?

What determines "viability" outside the womb?

[Parkbandit]

Well this isn't going anywhere, so have fun with yourself.

So you do or you don't believe in late term abortions?

Not sure why you are so upset with tgo01's question. Seemed pretty straight forward to me.

I'll answer it: As a person with pro-choice views, I am against late term abortions.

Weird... it was extremely easy for me to answer it.

Why is it so difficult for you?

[Tgo01]

Well this isn't going anywhere, so have fun with yourself.

Uh-oh! Looks like drauz realized he was about to get disowned by the Democrats for suggesting any sort of restrictions on abortion.

drauz: life begins when the baby can survive outside the womb.
Me: so late term abortions are wrong then since the baby can survive outside the womb at that point?
drauz: I’m right! You’re wrong! I’m outta here!

[Gelston]

Yes, that doesn't mean I think it is a person.

It is made of human cells, human DNA. What is it?

[Parkbandit]

Uh-oh! Looks like drauz realized he was about to get disowned by the Democrats for suggesting any sort of restrictions on abortion.

drauz: life begins when the baby can survive outside the womb.
Me: so late term abortions are wrong then since the baby can survive outside the womb at that point?
drauz: I’m right! You’re wrong! I’m outta here!

That's the problem with the Democrats of today..

[Seran]

If I kill a pregnant woman is it one murder or two? Should the sentencing be different? If I stab a pregnant woman in the belly and kill her child, is it murder or just assault?

Ones a crime, the other is not. One is morally reprehensible to society, the other only to a small minority. They don't equal, your comparisons. You're trying to ask me to compare the taste of apples to the color blue and not understanding the difference

[Seran]

We did ban religions from performing said acts. Now if we can just ban the Alt-left death cult from performing child sacrifices.

It's not a child, nor is it a sacrifice. It's ending an unwanted growth for personal, moral, financial or health reasons.