UGH

[g++]

oh yah holiday ground mount...

[AnticorRifling]

I've been pulling a few packs in icecrown randomly today between working on issues and calls. Sitting at about 220 charms so far.

[Liagala]

I've been pulling a few packs in icecrown randomly today between working on issues and calls. Sitting at about 220 charms so far.
Just southwest of the word "Corp'rethar" or whatever it is on your Icecrown map is a cathedral with about a jillion cultists kneeling at benches on either side of the room. They have a ridiculous respawn rate, and I can pull half the room as ret without blinking. You could probably do the whole lot of them. Why have you not been doing dailies to get tokens? I had my flamingo Saturday morning, without turning in a single bracelet for a token.

[AnticorRifling]

Sounds like you should be farming charms for bracelets to give me, that's what I'm hearing.

[Liagala]

Sounds like you should be farming charms for truesilver arrow pets to sell on the AH.
That's exactly what I'm doing.

[g++]

Can those charms be used to purchase sea horses? I dont ask for myself because I already have a sea horse which I am enjoying very much. I ask for a pathetic friend of mine who was unable to fish one up.


Thanks.

[Liagala]

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/6430/941661-die_in_a_fire_super.jpg

[TheEschaton]

gratz on H-Morchok.

Both Yorsh and Zon are very healing intensive. I actually feel like H-Hagara is easier than both of them. Well, Yorsh isn't intensive, it just requires one tank chaining CDs, and killing a different priority on oozes, including not killing purple and healers using big single target heals to not blow up the raid.

I'm all about WSG farming, but I am raiding this weekend.

[AnticorRifling]

Our healing core is very solid. I've done a few H-Yorsh attempts with TGiG group 1 when they working on it so I've at least seen it but yeah we'll do some learning on it.

[TheEschaton]

Some tricks we use:

1) green (when yellow+green+red+any other) because red hurts like a bitch if you're not directly under the boss, and green requires spreading out > yellow > green. You should never have to kill a different color - make sure on red everyone is stacked way up in there, including Scramby. Might want to lust here if there's no purple up because yellow will require pretty intense healing with the random reds going out too.
2) on purples, Boyardee can heal Scramby's pet with a beacon on the tank, with impugnity, as pets don't gain stacks, and beacon doesn't give stacks either. Large single heals, the debuff wears off halfway thru the phase and then reapplies again.
3) On the first blue, we don't touch it, and pop all mana CDs (hymns, mana tide, innervate, divine plea, etc). Our heals heal through the phase the best they can without killing the void. Inbetween blues, the melee work on the void to about 15%, while the ranged kill oozes. On the next blue, you wait for it to suck up all mana, kill the old void, everyone's at full. You leave the new void up til the next blue. Rinse repeat - it's much more worth it to have that full mana bar later in the phase.
4) lust on a good combo (yellow+red+blue) where you killed a green is a good one to lust on. Lusting on purple might be an issue if people tunnel and don't watch the damage they're taking (and force the healers to heal them more and risk blowing them up).
5) Purples: You can lay down AOE heals like healing rain, efflo, and the priest one before the debuff takes place, and it won't cause stacks as long as people are in them already (if you move out, and then back in, it'll gain a stack). Casting those heals with the purple buff on the boss will almost certainly be a wipe. No chain heal, no prayer of mending, no holy radiance, no circle of healing, no prayer of healing, assign targets.

Oh, and we two heal this fight, otherwise the enrage timer was an issue. Might not be a thing any more with the 5% nerf.

[Liagala]

I have 315 lovely charms in my bags, waiting for a DK who hasn't logged in since I collected them all. This is not cool. Just thought I'd mention that.

[RichardCranium]

I was just on this morning...

[g++]

Well we got you firefighter. Then I had a massive fail streak so we fucked up Vezax and Yogg. Id like to finish that up and grab starcaller sometime this week, it should only take a half hour 45 minutes, think you could gmotd something about doing it sometime this week?

[AnticorRifling]

Sure.

We'll need to do a reset anyway for iron dwarf medium rare won't we?

[g++]

Yar, we might need more than 7 people for Yogg no lights too. need at least 5 dps and 3 ranged I think.

[Liagala]

Yar, we might need more than 7 people for Yogg no lights too. need at least 5 dps and 3 ranged I think.
We might need to figure out how that fight works, too. Last night was my first time seeing Yogg. Things I learned:

Red line connecting 2 people = bad, yellow = good.
There are not enough portals for everyone.
Getting picked up by the tentacles sucks.
It's pretty awesome when people get mind controlled, until you get picked up by said pain in the ass tentacle and can't DPS PJ anymore.

[g++]

need scramby and 2 dps to go into the brain room clear the tentacles and blow up yoggs brain, need 2 ranged outside to bust people out of the gripper tentacles and clear the room of aids tentacles. after prolly two cycles of that hell go into 3rd phase and spawn an add every 10 seconds me and scramby will cleave down and it should be easy.

I re-read the fight last night, we just need no one to go insane and scramby to get a good 30 seconds on the brain should be easy. We screwed up last night cause we only left 1 dps outside who got gripped and no one knew to dps the illusions inside the brain heh.

[Liagala]

I was looking at Yor'sahj on this site: http://www.icy-veins.com/yor-sahj-the-unsleeping-detailed-strategy (can't do Fat Boss videos at work). They said that while there are several numerically possible combinations, only 6 are actually programmed to happen. They are:

•black — blue — green — purple;
•black — blue — green — red;
•black — blue — purple — yellow;
•black — green — red — yellow;
•black — purple — red — yellow;
•blue — green — purple — yellow.

Is this true Arg? Also, I bolded the one I think we're supposed to kill. I basically went with red+green = bad, kill green. If no Christmas combination, kill yellow. If no yellow and no Christmas, kill purple.

On the third, fifth, and sixth, there are both yellow and purple slimes. People say yellow is a kill priority so I bolded that one, but since when do we do anything the easy way? Do you guys think it would also work to kill the purple? More damage, but healers are free to heal it without blowing us all to hell. That would make the priority Christmas (kill green) > Purple. How much extra damage is it from yellow?

Random note - Word of Glory apparently doesn't trigger the purple thing. Most phases with a purple slime also include a black one. If Chef has the Blessed Life talent (or is willing to respec into it) he can taunt an add and use the holy power its attacks generate to go WoG-happy, in between the heal-pet-transfer-to-tank-with-Bacon thing. Similarly, Ryan can get PoM-happy. That'll bounce around nicely on purple/black phases without stacking the debuff. None of this matters if we decide to eat the extra damage and kill purple slimes.

[AnticorRifling]

With the purple, like Arg said, I know that having a holy pally bacon the tank and then spam heals on a pet is the way to go. I'm not sure how we'll do it, especially with the 5% nerf we could probably just eat the extra damage given our healing core and our cooldowns on our tanks.

[TheEschaton]

Blessed life only gives HP once every 8 seconds.

I don't know if there's only six combos, I feel like we've gotten purple/red/green/yellow, but when I think about that (we'd kill green), I don't think it's possible to have yellow and purple up at the same time. As for your bolded choices, the only thing we do different is on the first combo, where we kill green. Green hurts A LOT in heroic, even when spread out and no one getting splash. Which you will get, if you leave green up and melee have to go cleave the void. Purple is bad if it blows up, but it's entirely controllable/negatable.

Healing through yellow is hard. It means that on every yellow + black, you get two add waves, and it means your tank gets like 7-8 stacks of the debuff, which in heroic is insane. If we get the combo where we kill green instead of yellow, we BL and pray, and our tank has to pretty much pop everything and hold his breath. It might not be so bad with you as Dach can AMS, but I dunno.

[Liagala]

Healing through yellow is hard. It means that on every yellow + black, you get two add waves, and it means your tank gets like 7-8 stacks of the debuff, which in heroic is insane.
So much for that idea. 7-8 stacks blows in LFR, forget heroic. Okay, so Christmas > Yellow > Green. It might be better if Dachcow keeps the boss a little longer than Tungston then - Death Strike heals aren't affected by purple debuff, but the ones Tungston would get from healers are. Also, AMS.

[TheEschaton]

Oh, we one tank this. If you two tank it, yellow might be possible to leave up. We had problems with enrage when we first downed it when two tanking it, but dunno what it'd be like now.

[AnticorRifling]

We'll start out 2 tank, our DPS is fairly high and with the 5% reduction to the bosses HP on our side we might be ok. If we need to we can switch to 1tank. Where I'm at with my current mastery I can man handle the bosses physical attacks and with AMS, DS heals, Ice Bound, Bone Armor, etc I should be able to help soften the incoming damage.

[TheEschaton]

P.S. Dora, got raidfinder Gurth on my prot pally today. LOL.

[Liagala]

P.S. Dora, I wanted to join the huge troop of assholes taunting you about your sword that you are doomed to never actually acquire.
Thanks. Really. Tomorrow you'll be going on about how good the tentacles look next to PJ's sea pony pet.

[AnticorRifling]

We didn't get to spend much time on H-Yorsh last night because Scramby needed to be off early but we did make some pretty good progress. We were kissing the 50% mark on our best attempt. I think if we put some more work in on it and just focus more on cooldown management we'll knock that fight out.

[Liagala]

The 5% buff is going to 10% on Tuesday.

[TheEschaton]

I thought they said it WOULDN'T be a month before the next nerf? Jesus christ.

[g++]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFa_rD4Uj7s&feature=youtu.be

[AnticorRifling]

That's brutal.

[Nieninque]

This used to be a fun thread. You nerds have fucked it right up.

[TheEschaton]

AD knows better than to spill his bad all over the place in here now. It isn't the place of mockery and shaming it once was.

[Nieninque]

Fucking nerd

[TheEschaton]

Never denied it.

[g++]

Gonna be around tonight to cap conquest nerd?

[TheEschaton]

Wayne, when are you gonna become GM of TGIG? How long has Rocktall been inactive?

[Some Rogue]

I think Rocktall finally logged in for like one minute a couple days ago.

[Liagala]

So now WoW officially recognizes what we've known for a long time: Wayne is definitely nuts.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee346/None1414/Insane.jpg

[Some Rogue]

So now WoW officially recognizes what we've known for a long time: Wayne is definitely nuts.

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee346/None1414/Insane.jpg

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/200/420/BRTky.jpg (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/200420-neil-degrasse-tyson-reaction)

[AnticorRifling]

LOL, I actually will display that title too.

Only factions I've got left are Arathi and Warsong...unless I go hated with Aldor to do Scryer.

[g++]

Can you stop by to cap my priest tonight?

[AnticorRifling]

Planned on it after class tonight.

[g++]

sweet thanks.

Also enjoy this funny conversation between me and Arguendo doing 2's last night warrior/priest.

Arguendo : Why are you using Gurthalak, shouldnt you use a res weapon?
Me : The tentacles that spawn can dps at range and they can sometimes help slow stuff down.
Arguendo : Is it really that big a deal I mean I could see if it was normal or heroic but a raid finder gurthalak? Shouldnt you get the conquest one?
Me : Im not absolutely sure its better either, Im just saying from my own experience the proc can be helpful.

Gates open, Arguendo dies at the same time I kill a hunter priest/warr vs ret/hunter

Me and the ret duke it out till were both at about 20% and I enraged regen and he repentences me and starts to cast flash heal. All of a sudden a tentacle spawns out of the ground and mind flays him to death....was amazing.

[Some Rogue]

And then you teabagged your own teammate right??

[g++]

Arguendo is usually pissed off enough when we do 2's without help.

[Liagala]

First I fished up a sea pony, then I got (LFR) Gurthalak on an alt, now...


http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee346/None1414/Axe.jpg

Not a bad week!

[AnticorRifling]

We would have killed H-Yorsh sooner but Dora refused to use her http://www.wowhead.com/item=44819

[Liagala]

We would have killed H-Yorsh sooner but Dora refused to use her http://www.wowhead.com/item=44819
I didn't click that, but I hate you anyway.

[Liagala]

So according to world of logs, my shiny new axe and I were about 1.5k away from ranking in the top 200 on Ultraxion last night. If we could time bloodlust to line up with my cooldowns next week, that would be awesome. Thx.

[TheEschaton]

grats on H-Yor'sahj guys. How long'd it take last night?

Zon'ozz is fun times.

P.S. Normal Gurth'll probably drop every week now.

[g++]

Think 3 or 4 tries. Wayne tried to wipe us at the end as usual.

[AnticorRifling]

grats on H-Yor'sahj guys. How long'd it take last night?

Zon'ozz is fun times.

P.S. Normal Gurth'll probably drop every week now.

Took us about an hour last night.

Overall our DPS is doing very well. Thomas is low man when he gets to DPS, not having 4pc hurts him.

[g++]

So according to world of logs, my shiny new axe and I were about 1.5k away from ranking in the top 200 on Ultraxion last night. If we could time bloodlust to line up with my 8 tricks of the trade next week, that would be awesome. Thx.

ftfy :)

[TheEschaton]

Wow, you're killing Ultra in 4 minutes?

Or is your rogue that bad? Oh wait, I know the answer to that. ;)

[AnticorRifling]

Well we do regular ultra with 1 healer, 2 tanks, 7 dps so it goes stupid quick.

[TheEschaton]

So, I'm at the point where, outside of raiding one night a week, the only thing I'm doing in the game is farming enough mats to get alts maxed in their professions.

We'll know things have gotten serious if I attempt to level fishing on another toon.

[g++]

I want to play more arena

Wow me too. Great.

[AestheticDeath]

AD knows better than to spill his bad all over the place in here now. It isn't the place of mockery and shaming it once was.

Hur hur, I may not be 'pro' like you seem to think you are, but even on my fail server I seem to have kept up with the 10m ya'll been talking about.

And I know 110% I am wasting my breath here, but I just got kicked from my guild because the 18 yr old GM didn't like my attitude(I didn't go do old raids with them, bot, bwd tot4w) also he wanted to invite his BF to take my spot, so hurray... I have no guild again.

So I am available if anyone wants to realID me and invite me to a raid.

Yeah I know, your all laughing but whatever. I have 4 guys geared enough for reg DS, and one for heroics.

[Tannious]

Really hate that my raid has fallen apart. Been almost a month since we last raided. Lost a healer and finding a competent one is apparently impossible on my server. We were progressing nicely too. 4/8 when we stopped.

[AestheticDeath]

4/8 heroic?

I have a priest or paladin healer...

[AestheticDeath]

Crap... can RealID friends be in a raid group for dragon soul? I havent even tried it.

[TheEschaton]

For the old raids, yes, for DS, no.

[Tannious]

Yeah, would have to be on my server.

We were 4/8 heroic yes. Were starting on Zon and Gunship just as it fell apart. Silly melee had issues getting away from the ball on normal so we just skipped him.

Going to have to resort to filling in for other guilds lol. My mage doesn't need anything from regs, and nobody wants rogues. Oh well, D3 will hold me till the expansion I guess.

[TheEschaton]

If you have a resto shaman, ours has made 1 raid night in the past 2 months, lol.

We're 8/8H, 10 man.

[TheEschaton]

Press NDA lifted, first thing I read:

The final patch of Mists of Pandaria will be the Siege of Orgrimmar! Both factions lay siege to the city to bring Garrosh down and end his reign of Warchief.


Fucking finally, that guy is a huge douchebag. And i say that as an almost exclusively Horde player.

[Some Rogue]

First couple things I read...not only will there be Pokemon in game, but Farmville as well....


UGH is right.

[Some Rogue]

The second section has the Virmen, which are evil, crazy bunnies that will eat anything.
The biggest Virmen of them all is Hoptallus, the next boss. He has a furlwind attack and carrot breath that you have to avoid.
The third section has old beer that has gone bad and come alive. It has Stormbrew Alementals and spirits.
The final boss is Yan-Zhu the Uncasked a beer elemental.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/1148_1253230725640.jpg

[Liagala]

•AoE Looting has been added. :D :D :D

•The Hozen
•The Horde are going to work with the Hozen here and recruit this tribe to help fight their war.
•We are going to give the monkeys machine guns and rocket launchers. This is a good plan; nothing could go wrong with this plan.

[AnticorRifling]

Someone post up the complete list so I can readificate it.

[g++]

Someone post up the complete list so I can readificate it.


The Mists of Pandaria Press Tour in 5 Minutes
If you only have a few minutes to read about the Mists of Pandaria press tour, we have summarized the major points below. If you have time later you should really go back and read the whole thing!


The final patch of Mists of Pandaria will be the Siege of Orgrimmar! Both factions lay siege to the city to bring Garrosh down and end his reign of Warchief.
The new LFR loot system will allow everyone to roll individually. The highest few rolls will win an item from the boss. Upon winning a roll, if the boss has an item that you can use, you will win it. If not, you will get some amount of gold. It will only be in LFR to begin with, but can be added to other parts of the game later.
An 11th character slot has been added.
AoE Looting has been added.
There will not be an item squish in Mist of Pandaria.
No new race models are ready to be added yet.
There will be nine level 90 heroics for players as well as three raids with 14 raid bosses and three difficulties. There will be an additional two world bosses.
Scenarios will take place at level 90, in an instance, and reward reputation and Valor points. They don't need a healer, tank, and DPS, just DPS is fine. Each will take 10 to 30 minutes to complete and five or more will be available for launch.
In Challenge Modes, the vast majority of players will most likely earn a bronze medal even if they are a relatively unskilled player. After a player earns all the medals at the Bronze level, they will be rewarded with an achievement and title. Completing all of the Silver medals will earn a set of spectacular gear for transmogrification, and completing all of the gold will earn a unique epic flying mount. Challenge modes will be available for the six new dungeons at launch.
Cloud Serpents are the Pandaren's mount of choice. You can raise your own by doing 20 days of daily quests.
The Tillers faction will let you run your own farm! The farmer's market will provide daily quest to improve your farm every day, you will be able to clear plots of land and plant things like cooking ingredients, herbalism nodes, gifts for NPCs to build your reputation... etc.
Warlocks got the most class changes in MoP, along with new pets.
There will be more mounts and less color swaps for different rewards.
They are adding armor to creatures to give them varied appearances, something other than just simple color changes.
There are now seven zones, up from five. This was done to add more content to the game and give players a less linear progression path so that leveling for a second or third time isn’t the exact same.
There will be one new arena and two new battlegrounds at launch.
PvP pet battles are going to be fun and causal, only tracking the number of wins and not the number of losses. When fighting another player, you cannot see the other players name or communicate with them.
Currently, every race except Goblin and Worgen can learn the ways of the monk.
The Pre Mists of Pandaria Patch will be roughly two weeks before launch and bring simple rewards. It might involve a scenario with Theramore and the Alliance vs Horde theme. Chen Stormstout might also come to the local cities and get players excited about what is coming.

[g++]

The Mists of Pandaria Press Tour in 60 Minutes
This part is for people who don't want to read the original versions of interviews and presentation, but still want to know everything. Yes, the 300 lines below are just the short version.

Media Presentation - General
The final patch of Mists of Pandaria will be the Siege of Orgrimmar! Both factions lay siege to the city to bring Garrosh down and end his reign of Warchief.
There's a huge Horde vs. Alliance storyline. The war between the Alliance and Horde heats up as they roll into Pandaria, and it will serve as a major battleground, but things get so gnarly and out of control, and war crimes are committed by one side, it begins to spiral into crazyville.
The Mists of Pandaria storyline is split into two. The whole Pandaren arc where you will discover their continent, help solve problems, figure out what happened for the past 10,000 years and why. The second part of the storyline is obviously the war between the Horde and the Alliance.
In some ways, Mists of Pandaria is more of a spiritual successor to classic WoW, with the call to adventure. It wasn't about a giant world boss or big overarching problem, it was just about exploring. Experience this faction, see the world, engage the cultures, have an adventure, that was the spirit of the first game. In many ways Mists of Pandaria gets back into that.
The patches for Mists were conceptualized almost as a sequel to the box product, meaning that after you’ve helped the Pandaren save their land, the story kicks into a different gear. All of the heavy armor and wrath of these two great factions begin to collide, and the story really starts going from there.
This expansion is not a joke. It is not light and fluffy, although the Pandaren are fun and super zen. The conflict between Alliance and Horde is gearing up to hit a fevered pitch unlike any we have ever seen.
Why this and why now? This expansion will be a nice vacation that feels like an adventure before things ramp up in future patches.
Just because Pandaren were debuted as an April Fool’s Joke a few years back, that does not mean they are viewed as a silly and comedic idea. They have always loved Pandaren and wanted to put them into the game. Pandaren were in serious consideration for the Alliance race in Burning Crusade.
They are adding armor to creatures to give them varied appearances, something other than just simple color changes.

Media Presentation - The Pandarens
Aysa Cloudsinger is a follower of the path of Tushui, which believes in living a venerable life through meditation, rigorous training, and moral conviction. She has attained impeccable form and a refined intellect through diligent practice. To Aysa, to follow the way of Tushui is to defend what is right above all else. She believes that success in any endeavor never justifies dishonorable deeds. While the Alliance contains a diverse mix of cultures, Aysa is attracted to the high ideals and values that cement the Alliance together.
Ji Firepaw, a follower of the more direct Houjin philosophy, is adamant that inaction is the greatest injustice. He holds that it’s honorable to defend home and family no matter the cost. Outgoing, passionate, and not one for deep thought, he is always the first into the fray. Ji finds himself attracted to the scrappy practicality that defines the Horde. Although it will cost him dearly, he will decide to carry the Horde banner when he leaves the Wandering Isle.
Chen Stormstout
Warcraft III players may recall his chance meeting with Rexxar in the game’s bonus missions, where he worked together with Thrall to found the new orcish homeland in Durotar.
Later, he accompanied heroes such as Vol’jin and Jaina Proudmoore to liberate Theramore and protect the fledgling Horde from annihilation.

Media Presentation - Zones
The Wandering Isle
The isle will not appear on the map of Pandaria.
Those who follow the path of the Houjin are impulsive, quick to action, and practical. Houjin disciples feel that the ends can justify the means, and they may find like-minded compatriots in the Horde.
The followers of the path of the Tushui are more contemplative, focused on abstract ideals of justice and morality. Students of Tushui believe that a principled life is the only one worth living, and may find that the stalwart Alliance aligns more closely with their beliefs.
There are now seven zones, up from five. This was done to add more content to the game and give players a less linear progression path so that leveling for a second or third time isn’t the exact same.
The Sha
In Pandaria, negative emotions like fear, hatred, and anger take on a physical presence or dark energy called the Sha.
Unwary mortals can also become possessed by negative Sha energy, becoming embodiments of pure anger or fear.
Jade Forest
The Temple of the Jade Serpent is located here and is the first dungeon.
This temple marks a special place in Pandaren history, because this is where the last emperor defeated the Sha of Doubt and imprisoned it in the ground.
This temple is going to be completely overwhelmed by this dark energy, so you are going to have to go in and clear it.
There are four ancestor spirits that guard over Pandaria. The Jade Serpent has the temple dedicated to her, as well as a statue in the zone.
The Alliance and Horde enter from the North and the South with a small force of survivors from a shipwreck.
There will eventually be a large battle in the middle of the zone.
The Jinyu
They are a fish-man race that is found throughout Pandaria.
They are an elder and wise race, looked up to by the Pandaren.
The water speakers are an upper caste that uses the river to listen to the future
The Jinyu are recruited by the Alliance to go to escalate their war with the Hozen. The Jinyu have always been at war with the Hozen.
The Hozen
They act like a group of 14 year old boys running around together in the jungle, equipped with machine guns and weapons from the Horde.
They are also found all over Pandaria, even in one of the dungeons.
There are Jungle Hozen and Mountain Hozen, the heartier kind.
The Horde are going to work with the Hozen here and recruit this tribe to help fight their war.
We are going to give the monkeys machine guns and rocket launchers. This is a good plan; nothing could go wrong with this plan.
Cloud Serpents
They are the Pandaren's mount of choice.
You can raise your own over the course of roughly 20 days.
You first will pick an egg and color to gain a tiny pet that will follow you.
After doing daily quests with this pet, it will become a full size dragon that you can ride.
Once you can ride the dragon you must do more quests to train it, such as racing through stone pillars as the Pandaren in the stands cheer you on.
Valley of the Four Winds
It is the heartland of Pandaria, where the Pandaren farm their crops.
They grow extremely large vegetables here because there are waters that have been flowing down from Vale of Eternal Blossoms for millenia.
Tillers
This is the farmer's market here, which is the social hub of the Valley of the Four Winds.
Every day farmers will come to the market with different problems, providing daily quests.
You will help Farmer Yun fix up his overgrown farm, which will show your progression with the faction.
You can clear plots of land and plant things like cooking ingredients, herbalism nodes, gifts for the different NPCs to build your reputation. You then come back the next day to harvest what has grown.
You will be able to decorate the farm as you gain reputation. For example, you can add some pigs and slop, some other animals, and grow an apple orchard.
Stormstout Brewery
The dungeon is in the world at full size, meaning it can be used for questing as well.
Things are not going well inside, so you have to clean house with Chen Stormstout.
Krasarang Wilds
This used to be a subzone of Valley of the Four Winds.
It is a coastal rainforest with a lot of story in it.
The Mogu
They are the original rulers of Pandaria, ruling the land 10,000 years ago.
During that time they built temples all across the world, which are now ruins that you will find while questing.
Now they want their land back and are another threat that you will be dealing with the entire time.
You will come across them in both raids and dungeons.
If they get their empire back it would be bad news for the Pandaren, which is why they are such a big threat.
They are flesh-shapers and can create other creatures.
The Saurok
They are a race of lizard-men created by the Mogu.
They were designed to be smart enough to use weapons and fight for the Mogu, but over the years some escaped.
They will be found across Pandaria and in dungeons.
In one of the patches, the Alliance and Horde will roll up onto the beach along with their fleet, armor, tanks, and build a fortress on the island. Both King Varian Wrynn and Garrosh Hellscream will make an appearance.
Sometime in the wake of the Cataclysm, the mists abruptly vanished. The world will change over the course of the patches, especially this area.
In Patch 5.1 the beach on Krasarang Wilds will erupt into a battlezone.
Turtle Beach is another important historical part of Pandaria, as it is where Liu Lang, the first Pandarian explorer decided to see what was beyond the mists. He set off on the back of a giant turtle, which grew to become the Wandering Isle.
There are little historical points of interest all around the world and you will be able to visit all of them to collect the story. One of these points is the statue of Liu Lang on Turtle Beach.
Kun-Lai Summit
The zone is broken up into two separate areas, the lowland planes and the highest mountains in Azeroth.
The Yaungol
Their situation is similar to the Taunka in Northrend, as they got separated when Pandaria broke off from the main continents.
They have been forced out of their homeland by the Mantid in Townlong Steppes.
They are aggressive here because they are looking for a new place to set up their homes.
The Grummles
They were also created by the Mogu as a slave race to haul things around.
They make good guides and can carry many times their own weight.
They have a trade route that stretches across the zone called the Burlap Trail, which they will need your help with as this is very dangerous area.
The Shado-pan
The Shado-pan are the most elite warriors of the Pandaren society and they understand the threat of the Sha.
You have to earn the trust of the Shado-pan and work your way up through the ranks.
Shado-pan Monastery is located here in the outdoor world.
Vale of Eternal Blossoms
It is the original seat of the Mogu empire.
There are a set of sacred pools here that the Mogu used to build their empire.
Everyone that is here in Pandaria is fighting over the pools to take control of the power again.
Both Alliance and Horde will have their own player hub here, which will include an auction house, bank, and general vendors.
The zone will be under siege by the Mogu, who want to take their land back.
Golden Lotus
They were chosen by the Celestials to be the guardians of this zone.
There are not enough of them to fight the Mogu, so they need your help.
They don't trust you at first, so you will have to earn their trust. A different part of the valley will be under attack by the Mogu every day. When you first start working with them you will do some exploration and discovery. As you earn the trust of the Golden Lotus, they will send you to the front lines.
As you progress with them more of the doors open to a vault
As you collect the stories from the historical points of interest around the world you can bring them back to the Vale to the Lore Walkers.
The Lore Walkers are responsible for holding all the lore of Pandaria, so you can bring back the things you find and ask them about it, and they will walk up on stage and give a presentation.
Brewmasters
This faction is scattered across the world looking for rare ingredients to mix into their brews.
When you find the Brewmasters you will unlock a scenario. Doing these will give you reputation with the Brewmasters.
Kun-Lai Summit, Jade Forest, Krasarang Wilds, and Valley of the Four Winds are all filled with content and ready. Townlong Steppes and Vale of Eternal Blossoms are mostly complete.

[g++]

Media Presentation - PvP
Arenas
There will be one new arena at launch.
Battlegrounds
The Temple of ?? Mogu
Located in ancient Mogu temple that located in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms.
You will have a damage buff while holding the artifact. You will also be gaining points for your team as well.
The artifact has a curse that damages you over time. The longer that you hold it, the less healing that you can take.
It is going to be difficult for one person to keep the artifact for the whole time.
There will be three point zones, with the middle one giving 3 points and the outer one giving 1 point.
Gameplay is very fast paced, very different from other battlegrounds.
Silver Shard Mine
It takes place underneath Stranglethorn Vale in an Adventure Company goblin mine.
Both the Alliance and Horde are trying to get a hold of the mineral rich resources.
There are minecarts that take off from the center of the map and head to three different supply chains. As they are on the way to the depot, you can capture them in the same way you capture points in Eye of the Storm.
Both factions try to capture the cart before it reaches the end of the line, but there are checkpoints along the line that can be channeled to switch the direction the cart will go from left to right, giving your faction time to reclaim it.

Media Presentation - Talent System and Monk
Talent System
The idea behind the talents was adding a way for players to differentiate themselves and customize their abilities and utilities.
If you came back to the game you would go to a website and find the right build for your spec, take that, and never interact with the talent system again.
Most of the new talents don't add player power directly, but instead give you a benifit that is very difficult to weight mathematically.
In the case where the talents do provide power, they are on a tier with two other talents that provide an equal amount of power. It might be different ways of measuring the power, maybe it is a random proc versus something you can press on demand.
You shouldn't feel like you have to take a certain talent if you are a healer. You can take any of the three talents and have fun with those.
The Tome of the Clear Mind is the new consumable used for changing glyphs and talents, and only costs a little bit of gold.
Monks
There are a ton of new animations for the Monk and a lot of spell effects that are in place now. Almost every ability has a unique animation. If you are in healing mode, you will be using slightly different animations than if you are in melee DPS mode.
Currently, every race except goblin and worgen can learn the ways of the monk.
The way it works now is, if you are in melee or tank mode, you have an energy bar, but there are only a few abilities that use energy.
There are a couple of attacks that use energy, which builds up a second resource, which are the white spheres there, called Chi.
They are really trying to capture the feel of a button masher fighting game where you might chain combos together.
They don't want it to feel like our existing warrior class, so they don't have a Charge, but they do have a Roll that works more like a Blink. There is another ability lets you fly until you hit the button again and then you come down.
Spinning Crane Kick is the big AoE spell.
Fists of Fury is one of your big three combo point attacks.
Windwalker is the melee DPS spec, Brewmaster is the tanking spec, and Mistweaver is the healing spec.
If you become a Mistweaver, your energy bar is replaced with a mana bar, and you can cast heals much like our other healers, but you stand toe-to-toe and do some melee damage still.

Media Presentation - Dungeons
Stormstout Brewery
The Hozan have invaded and Chen Stormstout has tasked you with clearing them out.
They are having knife fights, seeing things, and sleeping because they got into the beer. You run around on barrels trying to break up the party.
And after you defeat enough of them, Ook-ook, the boss that is up on the ledge, will come down and the first boss encounter here will start.
The second section has the Virmen, which are evil, crazy bunnies that will eat anything.
The biggest Virmen of them all is Hoptallus, the next boss. He has a furlwind attack and carrot breath that you have to avoid.
The third section has old beer that has gone bad and come alive. It has Stormbrew Alementals and spirits.
The final boss is Yan-Zhu the Uncasked a beer elemental.
Scholomance
The artists have added a lot of new art throughout the dungeon, including new undead models.
New lighting and particle effects have been added as well.
Jandice Barov still uses a lot of illusions to try and attack you, but they have been able to really punch up that encounter a lot.
Lillian Voss is now in the room full of skeletons being raised. She is here for revenge against Darkmaster Gandling, who is taunting her.
The old classroom had benches added and creepy paintings on the wall that are always watching you.
Darkmaster Gandling is the final boss, who still sends you into his rooms with undead that you must fight your way out of.
There will be nine level 90 heroics for players as well as three raids with 14 raid bosses. All of the raids are all going to have three difficulties.
In Cataclysm so much of the mindshare went into the revamp of the level 1-60 zones and the creation of the content itself, that they didn't really have an opportunity to create a lot of those new types of gameplay elements.

Media Presentation - Scenarios
To enter a scenario, you'll queue up for it a lot like you would a dungeon. Each scenario is designed to take roughly 10 to 30 minutes to complete.
Most are some slice of the world that has been carved out, to give you things to do as a group that you normally wouldn't be able to do while questing.
People were not doing group quests because they couldn’t find people in the past, so now group quests are something you can queue for.
The instancing provides the ability to make that there aren't different groups competing for the objectives and causing problems for each other.
The UI will present a number of objectives once you enter the scenario.
For example, you can help the Brewmaster create her Lightning Lager that can only be brewed while it's raining and in the middle of a thunderstorm. This is done by defending the brewery from the saurok while putting out fires.
Scenarios don't use the traditional tank/healer/dps set up, which would be slower. Combat is more similar to questing than dungeons.
There should be at least five ready for launch, but there may be more.
Scenarios will reward Valor points.

[g++]

Media Presentation - Pet Battle System
For years blizzard has wanted to have mini games in World of Warcraft. They have also always wanted something more for pets but they didn't not want them to be mandatory. The pet battle system allows a perfect solution for both, and gives players something to do after dungeons, raids, challenges, scenarios, and battlegrounds.
The pet UI has been fully updated. On the left you will see a list of all the pets you have, and the ones you don’t as well as where to find those pets. When you click on a pet, you have, it will pull up a pet card with all the information on the pet
Pets will have health, levels, attack, defense, and movement speed (which is an initiative type of value) . Pets will also have 6 abilities, of which they can choose three of. It will work just like the players talent system. Two per row, can only pick one per row. You will be able to change these outside of battle. You unlock more abilities by leveling the pet up
You can name all your pets, and they will be shared across all characters.
When you enter a battle, you will see both players along with that player’s pets lined up in front of them.
You will be able to switch your pets between the ones you have selected mid fight. They also now run up to the enemy pet to attack it!
When you challenge another player in the world, it'll just kind of smoothly zoom in to this view. When you finish, it'll just pull right back on out to your normal gameplay view.
There will also be random critters and NPCs out in the world you can fight to level up your pets. As well as a queuing system to queue and fight other players.
There are roughly 100 wild pets across Azeroth to collect.
PvP pet battles are going to be a fun and causal. They do not want losing to feel like a big deal because that's really what drives a lot of people out of it. They will only track the number of wins and not the number of loses. You will also not see the other players name, and the players can not talk to one another. It should feel like your playing against another NPC (that just happens to be very smart).

Media Presentation - Challenge Modes
Challenge modes will be a new kind of activity for max level players that enjoy dungeons and raids. They will introduce a new form of competitive PvE for the first time, a new way to compete against your friends without that feeling of direct PvP confrontation. The point of challenge modes will be prestige, and not character power.
The challenge mode UI will display what dungeons you have completed challenge modes in ex: "You have completed another dungeon and earned a bronze medal in that". When you click on an instance, it will show you the different times you need to hit to earn each medal. While playing, on the right you will have a clock showing you have much time is left before you move to the next medal bracket.
You will always start off with a gold medal, if you take to much time, it will drop to a silver, and then from there to a bronze. The vast majority of players will most likely earn a bronze medal even if they are a relatively unskilled player.
Collecting all of the medal types for all the dungeons will give different rewards to players:
Collecting all the bronze medals will earn an achievement with a title.
Collecting all the silver medals will earn you visually spectacular gear that can be used for transmogrification. All of these sets have been built completely custom for each class and are unlike any other armor set that we have in the game. In addition, something that we are doing with these armor sets that we have never done before is giving them all unique effects that trigger off of something you do with your character class.
Collecting all the gold medals will reward the player with a unique epic mount called the flying Kwai-Lan, which will not be rewarded any other way. It is similar to one of those Chinese dog statues with a Mogu like head.
You will be able to look through the leaderboard at all the times on your realm as well as being able to compare them to friends and guild mates. The times will be tracked down to the milliseconds. The current plan is to save the time to 7 places.
Challenge modes will be available for the six new dungeons at launch.

[g++]

Then theres interviews with some developers....apparently all pets will be account wide and they are still deciding on how the account achieves will work

[AnticorRifling]

Cool, thank you.

[SpiffyJr]

Formatted a little better here (http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=201616/mists-of-pandaria-2012-press-event-full-monk-talents-revealed-and-more).

Interview (http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=201766)
FAQ (http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=201767)

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah can't get to wowhead or wowheadnews at work, hence having someone post it here :)


I'm looking forward to MoP. The one new PvP encounter reminds me of the one in Rift where you grab the fang. Now someone convince them to add HUTTBALL!!!!

[SpiffyJr]

Yeah can't get to wowhead or wowheadnews at work, hence having someone post it here :)


I'm looking forward to MoP. The one new PvP encounter reminds me of the one in Rift where you grab the fang. Now someone convince them to add HUTTBALL!!!!

No Wowhead! Blasphemy!

CHEATING, NAME-CALLING, AND KILLING ARE ALL ENCOURAGED!

GET THE BALL OVER THE OPPOSING TEAMS LINE ANYWAY YOU CAN! PASS THE BALL, THROW THE BALL, JUST DON'T KICK THE BALL... CAUSE HUTTS DON'T HAVE FEET.

P.S. Did you see http://www.torhead.com/patch/1.2

[Liagala]

So apparently dailies can give you a second chance at loot (http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1099795-Dailies-have-real-rewards-now!) from a boss in LFR, and valor points (http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1099663-Valor-points-gone.) will be used to up the ilvl on gear you're wearing, instead of buying new. Both sound pretty interesting.

[g++]

Really jack shit about pvp though except that theres "some new shit" which is kind of disappointing to me. I have never had trouble gearing up for raids its grinding pvp gear that pisses me off.

[Nieninque]

[Obligatory "you nubs don't know the meaning of the word 'grind'" post]

[SpiffyJr]

[Obligatory "you nubs don't know the meaning of the word 'grind'" post]

In my ideal game I wouldn't...

[Nieninque]

My mistake, I thought this was a WoW discussion thread.

[g++]

Yah I know it used to be worse, doesnt change the fact I still dont want to do it. The seasons and xpacs are moving faster but it takes the same amount of time to grind honor gear so it feels like your always in some state of grinding bgs and I just dont think its fun personally. Ive probably played Arathi Basin 300-400 times between all my characters at this point the only thing Im learning grinding honor is that I am really sick of playing Arathi Basin at this point. Should be some trade in value between seasons of the same x-pac at least and incorporation of world pvp into the gear grind imo. The only thing setting the amount of honor needed for a full pvp set does is proliferate bots and hatred in bgs.

[Nieninque]

Yah I know it used to be worse, doesnt change the fact I still dont want to do it. The seasons and xpacs are moving faster but it takes the same amount of time to grind honor gear so it feels like your always in some state of grinding bgs and I just dont think its fun personally. Ive probably played Arathi Basin 300-400 times between all my characters at this point the only thing Im learning grinding honor is that I am really sick of playing Arathi Basin at this point. Should be some trade in value between seasons of the same x-pac at least and incorporation of world pvp into the gear grind imo. The only thing setting the amount of honor needed for a full pvp set does is proliferate bots and hatred in bgs.

Skinner rats is what you are...

[g++]

Yah I guess, I just want to push the button less times for my pellet. But really if I want to play arena on a character it shouldnt require so much grinding is all im saying. If I suck at the character in arena I will naturally go back to practicing in BG's the honor grind seems excessive for an entry level thing.

[AnticorRifling]

Skinner rats is what you are...

I refuse to accept name calling from a vanilla HWL. I only healed some games for you, Wetpiggirl, Dieseloctane, Darksoldier, et al. and that was a grind...and I only hit Blood Guard.

[Loyrl]

In my ideal game I wouldn't...

So GW2 PvP then?

[SpiffyJr]

So GW2 PvP then?

Wow, it's out? You must know something I don't because I can't seem to find it at the store.

Herp derp.... da derp.

[Nieninque]

I refuse to accept name calling from a vanilla HWL. I only healed some games for you, Wetpiggirl, Dieseloctane, Darksoldier, et al. and that was a grind...and I only hit Blood Guard.

Meh, you could probably get to rank 9 without too many sleepless nights, after that it ws fucking ridiculous. It's a good job I hated my job at the time.

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah I did do any more than get in on one of the teams running when I could.

[Liagala]

DS buff goes to 15% on Tuesday.

[TheEschaton]

Next Tuesday? Time to start running my garbage alts through DS.

[TheEschaton]

Rumors are MoP beta is starting today or tomorrow, EU servers have been down for extended maintenance today without warning.

They said for annual pass holders, invites will be sent in waves, based on how old your account is and when you signed up for the annual pass - so Wayne is probably gonna be playing MoP tonight.

[AnticorRifling]

That would be cool.

[SpiffyJr]

Let's just say I'll be busy this weekend.

[TheEschaton]

NOICE.

[SpiffyJr]

NOICE.

That's pure speculation, by the way.

[Liagala]

That's pure speculation, by the way.
Really? It sounded like pure, "I have inside info from my awesome new job" to me.

[SpiffyJr]

Really? It sounded like pure, "I have inside info from my awesome new job" to me.

If I did have inside info I just can't publicly post in a forum with the same name that everyone knows me by. That's just bad form!

EDIT: There is no NDA on the beta though so I can likely post info then.

[Liagala]

If I did have inside info I just can't publicly post in a forum with the same name that everyone knows me by. That's just bad form!
... because people from your awesome new job read the PC. Even if they didn't read it, we're all bestest buddies with the staff there. I might let it slip to the company president over our weekly bridge game or something. Definitely.

[SpiffyJr]

... because people from your awesome new job read the PC. Even if they didn't read it, we're all bestest buddies with the staff there. I might let it slip to the company president over our weekly bridge game or something. Definitely.

lol, Google knows everything!

[TheEschaton]

Front page of MMO-C:

by Boubouille Published on 2012-03-21 11:47 PM
Update - If there was any, this is where you could find the Mists of Pandaria Beta Patch Notes. Thanks to KaNNis for the tip.

Mists of Pandaria Beta - Smells like Panda Spirit
Excuse me for the language, but shit just got real.

Stay tuned, tonight, we feast on pandas!

[SpiffyJr]

P.S. It's live. I'm in. Stay tuned for MoP news from Wowhead. Working on it all night probably... yay me.

[Alfster]

Well - after a deal gone bad, I now have access to my account again. Sorry Drew.

I've now got an 85 druid, mage, deathknight, and shaman and free diablo 3.

Long story short - what's a good level of gear nowadays?

[AnticorRifling]

Hell no you're not trying to skip on details.


You need ilvl 372 to queue for LFR (that's average ilvl not equipped so you can have junk in your bags).

Shoot for 380 equipped for regular DS. Most of us that run together on Dunemaul are sitting in the 398-400+ equipped ilvl range.

[SpiffyJr]

I heard data mining is fun!

Almost done!

[TheEschaton]

Are you feeding wowdb.com? MMO's linking to it, not sure if it's MMO's stuff or Wowhead's stuff.

[SpiffyJr]

Are you feeding wowdb.com? MMO's linking to it, not sure if it's MMO's stuff or Wowhead's stuff.

Nope, but it sure look a lot like Wowhead, eh?

http://mop.wowhead.com

[Liagala]

Spiffy, can monks port around like mages?

http://www.wowdb.com/items/82469-ancient-tome-of-teleport-dalaran

Edit: Also, holy stats batman! http://www.wowdb.com/items/79785-qa-combat-test-healer-1h-mace-3

[g++]

http://www.twitch.tv/mmo_champion?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.mmo-champion.com

pretty neat stream of the beta, watching it while i work

[AnticorRifling]

Spiffy, can monks port around like mages?

http://www.wowdb.com/items/82469-ancient-tome-of-teleport-dalaran

Edit: Also, holy stats batman! http://www.wowdb.com/items/79785-qa-combat-test-healer-1h-mace-3

ilvl 562 dayum.

[Liagala]

Glyph of Righteous Retreat (NYI) - During Divine Shield, you can invoke your Hearthstone 50% faster.

lulz

Edit: More lols

Glyph of Fire From the Heavens - Your Judgment and Hammer of Wrath criticals call down fire from the sky.
Glyph of Crittermorph - When cast on critters, your Polymorph spells now last 24 hrs and can be cast on multiple targets.
Glyph of Totemic Encirclement - When you cast a totem spell, you also place unempowered totems for any elements that are not currently active. These totems have 5 health and produce no other effects.
Glyph of Felguard - Your Felguard will equip a random two-handed axe, sword or polearm from your backpack.
Glyph of Bloodcurling Shout - Your Battle Shout and Commanding Shout terrify small animals.
Glyph of Burning Anger - You get so angry when Enraged that you catch on fire.
Glyph of Murder of Crows - Your Execute critical strikes summon a flock of carrion birds.

[SpiffyJr]

Stop linking wowdb!

By the way: http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=201876

EDIT: I haven't had time to play. I was too busy helping to get http://mop.wowhead.com going.

[Alfster]

Hell no you're not trying to skip on details.


You need ilvl 372 to queue for LFR (that's average ilvl not equipped so you can have junk in your bags).

Shoot for 380 equipped for regular DS. Most of us that run together on Dunemaul are sitting in the 398-400+ equipped ilvl range.


Well. The mage and warrior are 400. So I'm sitting decent. Time to transfer to Dunelawl.

[SpiffyJr]

Got the Monk TC up: http://mop.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator#n

[RichardCranium]

Who currently has control of HoR?

[Liagala]

Who currently has control of HoR?
Anticor. God help us all.

[TheEschaton]

Got the Monk TC up: http://mop.wowhead.com/mists-of-pandaria-talent-calculator#n

Spiffy, just a bug report.

If you pick the talent calculator and have the thing which pops up the icons for the class to choose, and you choose, say, hunter, it'll pop up the specializations etc below the calculator.

If you then use the dropdown list near the top to switch classes instead of going back to the calculator screen itself to choose the icon, the specialization will stay the same while the calculator changes.

IE: I picked hunter on the calculator, everything popped up fine. I switched to priest via dropdown to see those talents, and the calculator changed, but the specialization portion below didn't change.

[SpiffyJr]

Spiffy, just a bug report.

If you pick the talent calculator and have the thing which pops up the icons for the class to choose, and you choose, say, hunter, it'll pop up the specializations etc below the calculator.

If you then use the dropdown list near the top to switch classes instead of going back to the calculator screen itself to choose the icon, the specialization will stay the same while the calculator changes.

IE: I picked hunter on the calculator, everything popped up fine. I switched to priest via dropdown to see those talents, and the calculator changed, but the specialization portion below didn't change.

Thanks. I'll look into it.

[Liagala]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1103278-MoP-Symbiosis?p=16054347#post16054347

Holy Paladin battle res, Mage/Warlock heals, Bear dropping his own ice trap or popping spell reflect, Feral cat with a pally bubble, chicken with mass dispel... This spell has so many fun possibilities.

[g++]

No way some of those are making it to live, think about disc/feral/x 3's where two players can cyclone 2 others for 12 seconds on the opener....yaaaah. Looks funs though.

[TheEschaton]

Or lock/feral 2s, where the feral can soul swap bleeds and the lock can rejuv himself on a 10 second CD.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

A kitty with dispersion sounds fucking awesome... or a kitty with feral spirit! Pretty neat. Burst damage would be redunk.

[Liagala]

Burst damage would be redunk.
WTB Tiger's Fury (15% damage boost for 6s on a 30s CD) on my ret :D

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

WTB Tiger's Fury (15% damage boost for 6s on a 30s CD) on my ret :D

The mushroom for frost/unholy dks is pretty awesome too.

Symbiosis:Grow a magical Mushroom with 5 health at the target location. Every 3 sec, all enemies within 10 yards will become afflicted with both Blood Plague and Frost Fever. Lasts 30 sec.

Not that I ever had issue getting into a raid as a feral/resto druid, now it's gonna be really easy I think.

[Liagala]

New guild perks: http://mop.wowhead.com/spells=-10 (This link shows just the new ones: http://mop.wowhead.com/search?q=date...22#guild-perks)


(Are you happy, Spiffy? It's not wowdb!)

[g++]

Those are the worst 2 perks I have ever seen. Double rested experience for my max level character?!?!?! oh fuck yah! and a 10% discount on a pointless service no one uses? how can I resist.

[Some Rogue]

New guild perks: http://mop.wowhead.com/spells=-10 (This link shows just the new ones: http://mop.wowhead.com/search?q=date...22#guild-perks)


(Are you happy, Spiffy? It's not wowdb!)

Fucking wowhead, the second link is fucked up. Why don't you use a real database like mmo-champion has? :medieval:

[4a6c1]

HEY. Hey. Fuck you Bloodylust. And you're welcome Bloodylust. I think I just gifted you a "faction exclusive mount". Who is Bloodylust? Actually it's not relevant to the following. This is what's going on: !Scroll of resurrection!

I'm not even going to pretend to be interested in Raiding. The best I can commit to is super duper casual sometimes randomly logging in to WoW like, while I do something else and/or half assed PvPing like before. And archaeology looks fun. And doing some lvl 80 quests looks fun. And logging onto vent to call you homewreckers and whores and some heavy breathing looks fun. Okay so yeah. Welcome back ROJO! (At least until the end of summer.)

[SpiffyJr]

New guild perks: http://mop.wowhead.com/spells=-10 (This link shows just the new ones: http://mop.wowhead.com/search?q=date...22#guild-perks)


(Are you happy, Spiffy? It's not wowdb!)

Love you!

[SpiffyJr]

Fucking wowhead, the second link is fucked up. Why don't you use a real database like mmo-champion has? :medieval:

I will fucking cut you.

[TheEschaton]

4 months of H-Zon'ozz: not one heroic xbow.
5th H-Madness kill - 2 heroic Vish'ankas drop. LULZ.

Only need 3 more pieces for full BiS.

[Alfster]

Who's who on Dunemaul?

Mage is back - Trotch

[AnticorRifling]

Fucking maintenance....office is quiet today and I'm BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRED!

[Liagala]

Are beta servers up? I thought their maintenance was Wed/Thurs

[AnticorRifling]

No idea, I only installed beta on my desktop. I need to delete Dach on the beta so I can load up my lvl'ing gear in his bags in live and copy him over so I can monkificate it up with lvl'ing gear.

[Liagala]

Found the new tauren shaman favorite transmog item: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeiWtjBUpFU

Edit: For the seeing-fun-stuff-at-work challenged - awesome shoulders:

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee346/None1414/Untitled-4.jpg

[AnticorRifling]

Are they the giant ass totem/rocketpacks? Because I know that's what I would use before even looking at the link.

[g++]

You getting off work late or early anticor? /i.e. wanna do 2's

[AnticorRifling]

I won't be on tonight until at least 8p EST.

[g++]

:(

[AnticorRifling]

Currently farming up flask mats and I want to go on record as saying stormvine and azshara's veil can suck my ass.

[Liagala]

Currently farming up flask mats and I want to go on record as saying stormvine and azshara's veil can suck my ass.
I recently discovered the joys of herb farming on a druid. It's amazing how much less I hate it now, than on someone who has to mount/dismount every time.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I farm the AH.

[AnticorRifling]

Fuck that I'll fly/swim in circles while I'm in meetings. And yes, herb farming should always be done on a druid.

[SpiffyJr]

I recently discovered the joys of herb farming on a druid. It's amazing how much less I hate it now, than on someone who has to mount/dismount every time.

Try it on a Tauren druid. F'in hilarious.

[Liagala]

Try it on a Tauren druid. F'in hilarious.
That's what I do. It's pretty awesome - I don't even have to care about nearby mobs. They can't hit me fast enough to interrupt the cast, so I just pick the herb and fly away while they stand there.

[AnticorRifling]

Try it on a Tauren druid. F'in hilarious.

That's the only kind that matter.

[SpiffyJr]

Got a sexy new Wowhead feature coming soon. Should be released next week! woop!

[Liagala]

Got a sexy new Wowhead feature coming soon. Should be released next week! woop!
Don't make posts like this until you can tell us what it is. Thx.

[SpiffyJr]

Don't make posts like this until you can tell us what it is. Thx.

I'm integrating all the MoP features into the regular live site to give a more "cohesive experience." Filterable and optional, of course.

http://i.imgur.com/FbksN.png

[subzero]

I farm the AH.

Any other method is doing it wrong.

[Alfster]

So did star wars already shit the bricks? I"ve been getting spammed with "play for free" from them the last few weeks.

[subzero]

I knew Crackhead Charlie would make his way into the expansion somehow...


Profit Mastery

Obtain 12 Vials of Tiger Blood.

Unknown Item × 12

Description

Two words: Tiger Blood!

This is gonna sell better than saronite back on the black market. Especially once I finish spreading a rumor about how it makes you all buff and stuff.

And a reference to something that was actually cool:



Spawns of Zit Kill 20 Spawns of Zit at the Pools of Purity.

Bottletoads Scoop toad eggs from 8 Gurgling Toadspawn on the top level of the Pools of Purity.

This is Zit Speak with Zhang Yue at the Pools of Purity.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4069/battletoadscoverart.png

[Liagala]

BOOSH (http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Dragon_Soul/Ultraxion/10N/Retribution_Paladin/?page=5) #172

[Some Rogue]

BOOSH (http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Dragon_Soul/Ultraxion/10N/Retribution_Paladin/?page=5) #172

Obviously hax.


Also, got the legendary daggers tonight. They have tentacles. Win.

[Donquix]

So i just randomly clicked down here for giggles and shits and saw Spiff the second alluding to doing wowhead stuff, checked back a few pages and got that confirmed. Belated grats, very cool gig.

That is all.

[AnticorRifling]

BOOSH (http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Dragon_Soul/Ultraxion/10N/Retribution_Paladin/?page=5) #172

My numbers had you at 123rd on that chart (I stay out on all HoT so I gather all the rolling dot damage). And you didn't stay out for any Hour of Twilights or anything like that either. Nicely done.

[Liagala]

It somehow magically changed itself to #154 overnight. I'm on page 4 now. Not quite sure how that happened, but I'll take it!

[SpiffyJr]

So i just randomly clicked down here for giggles and shits and saw Spiff the second alluding to doing wowhead stuff, checked back a few pages and got that confirmed. Belated grats, very cool gig.

That is all.

Thanks! It is a pretty sweet job but can be annoying when Blizzard throws up a patch at 11pm and I'm up all night working on a data push.

[Liagala]

Hey Spiffy:

Update - Apparently, WoWDB is the only database with working spells for this beta build. You can add the following code to your website to have fully working tooltips + even patch changes tooltips if you use the appropriate link.


HTML Code:
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://static-azeroth.cursecdn.com/current/js/syndication/tt.js"></script>
This should be the final location of the tooltip script, and you can start embedding this one permanently on your sites.
Get to work, slacker.

[SpiffyJr]

Hey Spiffy:

Get to work, slacker.

I got the spells up ~ 30 minutes after them which isn't bad considering it was my first solo push and there were a ton of spell format changes. Our regular data push dev got online and pushed the stuff that I didn't get finished shortly after. I like his post and I like even more that comments are disabled so no one can refute him. Well played. If there's this much secrecy and lying in DB competition I hate to think what there is in politics.

I'm not sure when he posted that but our spells have been working since midnight (CST) and completely accurate since a few hours after midnight.

[Some Rogue]

Someone else made a thread about it and were kinda laughing at them for chest beating about something so stupid and wrong...

[SpiffyJr]

Someone else made a thread about it and were kinda laughing at them for chest beating about something so stupid and wrong...

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1114202-quot-Apparently-WoWDB-is-the-only-database-with-working-spells-for-this-beta-build-quot

Found it. I lol'd.

[Some Rogue]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1114202-quot-Apparently-WoWDB-is-the-only-database-with-working-spells-for-this-beta-build-quot

Found it. I lol'd.

Haha, he closed that thread too. Someone is feeling a little insecure...

[Some Rogue]

Also, got the legendary daggers tonight. They have tentacles. Win.

And posted today...

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/4592760

Nice little recap with videos of each step.

[Donquix]

Thanks! It is a pretty sweet job but can be annoying when Blizzard throws up a patch at 11pm and I'm up all night working on a data push.

I work in "the clouds" (trumpet fanfare) now, you should come host with us then we can go to some gaming/tech event together and talk about how our mutually beneficial business relationship was begun because of a crappy 20+ year old mud we used to pay like 20+ dollars a month for.

...it makes me sad when ever i have to say that.

[SpiffyJr]

I work in "the clouds" (trumpet fanfare) now, you should come host with us then we can go to some gaming/tech event together and talk about how our mutually beneficial business relationship was begun because of a crappy 20+ year old mud we used to pay like 20+ dollars a month for.

...it makes me sad when ever i have to say that.

Apparently I'll be at BlizzCon. I'm looking forward to everyone seeing the Wowhead badge and pestering me... not! :)

[TheEschaton]

I heard Blizzcon was cancelled for this coming year?

[SpiffyJr]

I heard Blizzcon was cancelled for this coming year?

Sure is. At least I'll have a year under my belt before I go.

[Donquix]

I haven't been since the first year, it was a fine enough excuse to drink and look at girls in succubus outfits. Though I don't live in California anymore so it's not as feasible (also, the first year tickets didn't sell out in 9 seconds and were cheaper)

I got to play Ghost too, I'm kind of a big deal.

[SpiffyJr]

ZOMG: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=na=test

Some searches may not show both MoP and live results until the cache expires (which I think is ~ 24 hours).

[Liagala]

ZOMG: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=na=test

Some searches may not show both MoP and live results until the cache expires (which I think is ~ 24 hours).
I like this. It's kind of annoying to have to keep switching versions of the site to get from new to current stuff.

[Liagala]

So they're really playing up the "Garrosh is a dick" angle in MoP. I got a panda out of the starting zone on beta. Garrosh's introductory speech was something about how the Horde being awesome - "You won't find anything better than an orc by your side in battle. The tauren can be useful too - look, this one is a shaman (standing in front of the one next to his throne). Even a blood elf can hold a sword." Real classy, IMO.

[TheEschaton]

WTF you got a beta invite?? I still don't have one.

[Some Rogue]

If it's brown flush it down...no wait, that is for something else.


If they're brown, keep them down. Better.

[Liagala]

Okay. Now I'm pissed. This is just completely, totally, 100% NOT RIGHT. Nekk was messing around on beta today, and asked me to create him a premade rogue so he can see how it plays. I did, and he logged in. Guess what the only ground mount given to the premade characters is?????

ahefiop34q5689wpqty dfpahwbgcf;gdehi'GH4P3Q7584UI;OQGAF;DKAGBD.SFA;HAD ;.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheEschaton]

Errr....what?

[Liagala]

Errr....what?
I'm over 150 kills for the stupid reins of the raven lord mount, in Sethekk Halls. PJ and Wayne think it's hilarious to give me a hard time in raids. They'll pull out their baby blizzard bear pets and mount their raven lord things and just parade around. Premade beta toons all get the raven lord mount - this is clearly Blizzard's way of giving me the finger.

[AnticorRifling]

And by finger I think you mean a fisting.

Also I lol'd.

[TheEschaton]

I don't have raven lord, but I have the flaming raven lord.


It wasn't flaming until you sat on it ~ Anticor

/inb4 gay jokes. (too slow, see above, BOOOOOSH)

[Donquix]

I don't have raven lord, but I have the flaming raven lord.

/inb4 gay jokes.

hahah you're so g....

damn. too late.

[AnticorRifling]

hahah you're so g....

damn. too late.

Don't worry, with proper abuse of mod powers I got a gay joke in before his little /inb4 gay jokes saving throw.

[TheEschaton]

Inactive guild leader replacement now requires 90 days of absence, up from 30 days.

Looks like TGIG will never be ours, grr.

[Some Rogue]

They need to change the new expansion to the Mists of Poopdaria.....

Just a ridiculous amount of poop jokes so far.

[TheEschaton]

Well, it's pretty much a game for teenagers now. Poop is where it's at.

[AnticorRifling]

Kung Poo Panda!

[Liagala]

Kung Poo Panda!
afk, reserving name on Dunemaul

[Some Rogue]

When I had posted that, I had just finished picking up "methane deposits" and then had to go to some goblin who made bombs from it. The next quest was me and a goblin standing next to a monkey outhouse with a long line of monkeys waiting to shit while he made more bombs to fend off some attacking fish men.

[AnticorRifling]

TBC we dug thru shit for keys, dug thru shit for coffee beans, etc.

Cata there's a quest to gather some minerals in Azshara that turn out to be giant elementals' poop. You try to give him a giant laxative to speed him up because the mineral is valuable.

[Liagala]

TBC we dug thru shit for keys
When I first started playing, SR and I leveled a bunch of different toons up to 60 with the RAF bonus, then I picked my favorite when the 3 months was up and we went from 60-80 on that. I remember him taking great delight in grossing me out with the search-through-poop-for-keys quest outside Thrallmar. We were actually most of the way through the zone when he realized we skipped that little quest hub, and made me go back there just to do it.

[SpiffyJr]

Dynamic quest rewards are up on Wowhead now. http://mop.wowhead.com/quest=30492

[Liagala]

Dynamic quest rewards are up on Wowhead now. http://mop.wowhead.com/quest=30492
Are the mountain goat emblem and the summit prowler badge supposed to be the exact same stats, or is something buggy?

I like the way it was set up, with all the possible rewards showing, and just the ones for the class you clicked lit up. I had a mental image of something that only showed the ones for the class you picked, and you would have to go pick a different class from a drop-down or something to make others appear.

And why are your comments in blue text?

[SpiffyJr]

Are the mountain goat emblem and the summit prowler badge supposed to be the exact same stats, or is something buggy?

I like the way it was set up, with all the possible rewards showing, and just the ones for the class you clicked lit up. I had a mental image of something that only showed the ones for the class you picked, and you would have to go pick a different class from a drop-down or something to make others appear.

And why are your comments in blue text?

No, it's not bugged - I guess for that quest the rewards are the same for those two. It's probably something on Blizzard's end. We have some great content folks that plan the stuff I just do the coding to make it look the way they want.

And, my comments are blue because I'm staff.

[g++]

Im not going to be able to be on tonight. :(

[Some Rogue]

Im not going to be able to be on tonight. :(

That's a 50 dkp minus.

[subzero]

Heh, whoops...

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5844/wowscrnshot042012234815.jpg

[TheEschaton]

I copied my hunter to the PvP realm. I'mma stealth cap to 87, and then gank all yo' asses!

(I'm just kidding, I barely know how to disengage as a hunter.)

[Some Rogue]

The best part of beta so far...

I got to be Stealth Gamon aka the Hamburgler.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/WoWScrnShot_042312_124217.jpg

[AnticorRifling]

That's awesome.

[g++]

If anyone is looking to RAF(refer a friend) on alliance Kel'thuzad im leveling on there currently. Will pay cost of account and cost of transferring off raf'd account back to your main at completion. PM me if your interested, looking to do 2-3 characters to 80.

Would mostly want to level through dungeons btw

[AnticorRifling]

EWWW ALLIANCE!

The only thing I'd hate is not having lvl'ing gear. Experience aside the stats are just OP.

[g++]

Yah true, although if you level in dungeons you end up with basically the same stats after a few hours. Leveling my mage I have vendored cloaks, shoulders, and chest pieces that are better then my pvp heirlooms already a few times

[AnticorRifling]

Nice. I can't remember if I have anything on kel'thuzad or not I'll have to look.

[Liagala]

http://www.wowdb.com/achievements/6687-getting-hot-in-here

This just evokes a mental image of a raid going all-out, killing stuff, and then "Alright stop: Hammer time" and everyone /dances with the boss. Bonus points if you all get a male orc costume for that raid the way some 5-mans make you human or night elf.

[AnticorRifling]

Seems like pretty standard tactics that I use.

[SpiffyJr]

I finally got around to fixing the issue with the MoP TC where the spec wouldn't update if you used the breadcrumb link instead of the class icons. Thanks whoever reported that (I'm too lazy to go back and look).

[TheEschaton]

There's a pet battle achievment called "All Growns Up!" Love it.

[AnticorRifling]

Lia and SR,

You wanna take the Hounds on the road?!

Dunemaul is dead, we're going to need some new talent with Chef leaving, Pjaay going back to school in a month, etc. and the chances of it happening on dunelawl are slim. We were thinking about going to a full or high pop server where the DS/RBG/whatevers are always going in trade so if we needed filler we could get it instantly and where we could recruit a few decent bodies.

I'm thinking about moving Dach and Anticor, Cenedre is on board, Drew is on board, Mike said he'd take 2, Pjaay would do the same but I want everyone's opinions....so opine!

[AnticorRifling]

Boom just got Rivendare's Deathcharger.

[Some Rogue]

I assume this high pop server would be alliance on Kel'Thuzad?

Assuming it is and if Dora and I bring 2 a piece, that's $220. Not really something I'd be up for.

[g++]

No my dream of finding a decent arena team is a separate issue. As far as my raiding toons I would stay horde to save $ so...I would vote Malganis

[AnticorRifling]

I assume this high pop server would be alliance on Kel'Thuzad?

Assuming it is and if Dora and I bring 2 a piece, that's $220. Not really something I'd be up for.

No, I'm thinking Horde on Mal'Ganis.

[Androidpk]

Boom just got Rivendare's Deathcharger.

Hey welcome to 7 years ago.

[AnticorRifling]

I remember playing my DK 7 years ago...

[Liagala]

Why Mal'ganis?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

One of the most progressed servers IIRC...

[g++]

Its high population, good auction house, trade chat is full of stuff to do and its fourth U.S on progression so there are lots of good pugs running. Its also got a good pvp player base and rbgs and arena are popular. Illidan is the exact same as Malganis except its over populated so its more likely to have queues and its harder to complete quests and level.

[AnticorRifling]

Big horde server that's always high/full status without queueueueueue that can sometimes happen on Illidan.

DOES YOU HAVE OTHER SUGGESTION?!

[AnticorRifling]

Fuck

You

g++

[g++]

haha, get shit on.

Seriously though I have logged onto alot of servers on level 1's lately looking for a place to start leveling for rbg's so I didnt just pick Malganis out of a hat.

[AnticorRifling]

I have a female orc named Bootyclapper on Mal'Ganis. That right there should be reason enough to want to go there.

[Liagala]

I just wasn't sure why a bunch of pvp people would pick a realm that warcraft realms says has a 24:1 Horde:Alliance ratio.

[g++]

Because world pvp has been dead since vanilla probably.

[Some Rogue]

It's full right now at 11:30...once Pandas come out, you will probably see queues there too especially at night.

[g++]

Yup there will probably be queues at the release of the expansion. Once you get in there will actually be something to do though, so thats a plus.

[Some Rogue]

Running 9 alts through the same dungeons and raids every week isn't something I care to do anyway so it's not a big deal.

[g++]

True, although at this rate your main will be running with Hruodland the incompetant unenchanted ret paladin so you likely wont have time to have alts since you will be wiping 24-7 in Baradin hold.

[Liagala]

True, although at this rate your main will be running with Hruodland the incompetant unenchanted ret paladin so you likely wont have time to have alts since you will be wiping 24-7 in Baradin hold.
In his defense, he's a lot better on his shaman. He just has no idea what ret buttons do. He leveled prot, and always tanks on the paladin.

[g++]

...Im just saying its going to get to the point where there literally arent 10 competant people on the entire server, the same thing happened on Nazjatar and I had to transfer. Low pop servers dont get better they only get worse.

[Some Rogue]

So when this turns out like everything else that's been decided(let's play rift, let's play star wars, lets roll alliance toons), who's paying our transfer fees?

[Liagala]

Unrelated: The DS buff goes to 20% on Tuesday.

[Parkbandit]

So when this turns out like everything else that's been decided(let's play rift, let's play star wars, lets roll alliance toons), who's paying our transfer fees?

lulz.

PS - I'll hit 30 on my sith sorcerer today. Stop slacking, slack jaw.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

So when this turns out like everything else that's been decided(let's play rift, let's play star wars, lets roll alliance toons), who's paying our transfer fees?

Obama is working up an entitlement plan as we speak.

[g++]

So when this turns out like everything else that's been decided(let's play rift, let's play star wars, lets roll alliance toons), who's paying our transfer fees?

Its probably up to you realistically, if you dont want to go my guess is everyone else will stay on Dunemaul. Ill just play my KT mage more and log on to fail tuesday/thursday with whatever bad Drew brings to replace scramby for the next month.
:shrug:

[Liagala]

If you guys decide not to transfer you will be personally responsible for the rest of us languishing and being miserable on a failed server. You will single-handedly destroy our game. But no pressure, really. It's totally up to you.
...

[g++]

Im not going to languish and be miserable on a fail server. Im going to level my other mage...55 and rising. My guess is full ruthless within two weeks.

[AnticorRifling]

The word languish isn't used nearly enough.

Core.

[AnticorRifling]

I'm open to suggestions but I want to continue raiding and I want it to be with the people I've raided with forever with the occassional pick up when someone is gone.

Right now if we're missing someone who's sick, working, vacation, whatever then what? We're borderline fucked. There is hardly any talent to get outside of our little circle. I'd like to be in an environment where we can replace someone ad hoc and keep everyone from twiddling their thumbs.

If all of us are on at the same time we have 11, maybe 12 if we're counting Josh. But Scramby and Chef are going to be gone for the summer, Pjaay too, we don't have a depth chart and it's not for a lack of me trying to recruit...there just aren't people online.

45 people in org on Dunemaul, at least 50 lvl 85s in org right now on Mal'Ganis. PvP server so in the off chance you actually do get the chance to pee on someone you can but really we haven't seen a ton of PvP in the wild since Vanilla or early TBC.

[Liagala]

Supposedly Pandaria is going to have ample opportunity for actual world pvp. But 1 - I've heard that before, and 2 - I don't care at all. I'd be happy with a pve server. But that's beside the point.

Back to the actual discussion, I agree with what you're saying. The problem is mostly what Nekk brought up - we've seen quite a few times that everyone gets this great idea (play Rift, play Star Wars, roll Alliance), we all jump on it immediately, and it quickly falls apart. I really don't feel like dropping $100+ on server transfers for Nekk and I (or a disgusting amount of time and annoyance leveling toons and professions, gathering mats, farming gold, etc) only to have someone say, "Just kidding!" a month or two down the road.

[g++]

So just for the sake of argument lets say we transferred and never got our raid going on Malganis...would you actually transfer back to dunemaul? Regardless of whether hounds stays together we will still all be better off on a server that isnt dying.

[Liagala]

I'm more thinking along the lines of "wallets/wives/whatever say it's too expensive to transfer, so we're going to level new toons." Nekk and I transfer because we're snobs and insist on our BoA gear, professions, and million mounts. The rest of you get somewhere between level 4 (Mike) and 64 (Wayne), then say, "You know what? This blows." You start playing your 85s on Dunemaul again, but we already transferred and are screwed. At that point yes, I would transfer back to Dunemaul, because no matter how much you collectively annoy me with grand plans that fall apart, you're still most of the reason I play this game in the first place.

[g++]

Were all transferring our mains, mike was talking about transferring multiple characters, ill be transferring Rendings, Salvlol, Salvrofl, Pjaay, and Rancic. If we do this theres no fucking way Im ever going back to dunemaul to do anything but laugh at people still there.

I would imagine Wayne would be transferring the actual guild...

[TheEschaton]

I'd transfer a toon (probably Arg and Tort or maybe Lit) if you guys go through with it, though I don't know that I'd be a constant presence for your raid roster.

A pug that can down H-DS 5/8 is just unheard of outside these servers. Will there sometimes be queues? Probably - but I think queues are a small price to pay unless they get unreasonably long.

[g++]

I read the realm forums a bit they said there were queues when cata released for a few weeks..none since.

[AnticorRifling]

I'm more thinking along the lines of "wallets/wives/whatever say it's too expensive to transfer, so we're going to level new toons." Nekk and I transfer because we're snobs and insist on our BoA gear, professions, and million mounts. The rest of you get somewhere between level 4 (Mike) and 64 (Wayne), then say, "You know what? This blows." You start playing your 85s on Dunemaul again, but we already transferred and are screwed. At that point yes, I would transfer back to Dunemaul, because no matter how much you collectively annoy me with grand plans that fall apart, you're still most of the reason I play this game in the first place.

I'm still talking with everyone but it's with the expectation of xfering at least 1 raid ready lvl 85. Me I will probably bring 2, loaded down with all my BoA shit and I'll redo some toons but I won't leave the DK or druid behind they will xfer.

As for queue....I'd rather wait 10min to get on server than wait 60min trying to fill one damn spot for our raid because Mike needed hairplugs or whatever.

[Liagala]

Will you transfer the entire guild, or form a new Hounds?

[AnticorRifling]

Can I xfer an entire guild?

[Liagala]

Yes sir. Not the people in it, but the guild itself complete with xp, bank, and all the other things.