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You are just trying to find a way to turn a positive into a negative for your political nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
I'm surprised it took this long. It'll probably be the ISIS affiliated group that takes responsibility for the attack.
I'm surprised it took this long, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
It feels like this ill thought out evacuation has turned into a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.
Do nothing and they blow up the crowd waiting for evacuation, send in troops and they face a gauntlet of IED's.
Christ almighty. I really hope you’re just putting on an act and aren’t really this fucked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
This post already didn't age well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
4 marines dead.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ves-empty.html
And in 5 years we'll be back, fighting alongside the Taliban against isis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Eh, probably not in any huge numbers. Likely not any overt ground actions either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Local news agencies in Afghanistan report it was a local ISIS affiliate and the Taliban rushed to condemn the violence. If intelligence confirms the source, I'm sure swift and calamitous air and drone strikes are on their way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
You're discrediting praise for our military after a surprise attack? What kind of America hating cretin are you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Arrrgh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I say we send in 250,000 troops and wipe the Taliban and ISIS out of Afghanistan, but I'm sure cooler heads will prevail.
"Invading Afghanistan is easy, it's getting out that is hard." ~ Some random Afghani from the 1840'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Candor
Are you shilling for the Taliban now? So nice of them to condemn this violence as they commit atrocities themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Shut the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Regardless of the situation, 1 thing should never be in question.. which it now is..
Unequivocally it should be the statement of the US Government.. "Leave us alone as we get who we want, when we want, out of the country. If you stand in our way, you will be killed. If you stand aside, we will leave. Failure to understand our commitment to the protection of our people, will be your death."
It's a very simple concept. Just hard to implement. We have the personnel willing to achieve said goal, given the political backing and fortitude of our elected Leaders.
Yeah I really don't understand why Biden hasn't said this yet. It's almost like he's afraid to hurt their feelings or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
12 US troops confirmed dead, 60 total confirmed dead thus far.
Worst day in Afghanistan since 2011.
4 dead marines and 60 dead Afghans. Yeah, great job there, Biden!
If only we didn't create huge crowds of people around the single airport we decided to evacuate people from which created the perfect target for suicide bombings. If only we could have seen this coming.
Biden is nothing short of a disgusting ghoul.
Holy shit 12? I just read 4 Marines. Wouldn't surprise me if the number keeps going up as we get more information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
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Originally Posted by Seran
I even told him it was a bit premature to declare victory as so many vulnerable people were still crowding around the only airport to evacuate the country from. He just had to jump the gun in a lame attempt to give Biden any props, even going so far as to get almost each and every detail wrong in his post while claiming I was getting the details wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
SAD!
Another explosion being reported. Being reported it's a larger explosion than the other 2.
This being reported:
A permanent hold on evacuations is likely while Seran himself admitted 1500 Americans are still trapped in the country. You finally gonna admit what a failure Biden is now, Seran? Or you just gonna bitch at me for pointing out how much of a failure he is?Quote:
The gates to Kabul airport have been locked shut and evacuations suspended. A government source tells me that a permanent hold on evacuations is likely.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
That's what happens when you are just trying to find a way to turn a negative into a positive for political nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Retard Champion Tardbandit Relying On A NOU Yet Again
Post in your meltdown thread right away.
Biden has fucked this up so badly that I now think we shouldn't have withdrawn from Afghanistan. Seriously, how is it possible for someone to be THIS incompetent?
i know these people are extremists but how fricking stupid can you be. lets see Americans are leaving. lets kill some of them so maybe they will stay. I swear they have no fricking brains. kind of like a lot of liberals oh yeah i said it
ISIS wants us to stay so they can suicide bomb us more. It is part of their recruitment that they are fighting "the Great Satan." If we leave, it is a little harder for them to get at us.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
The incompetence just gets worse and worse!
Yes that's right. While there are reports of the Taliban going door to door and hanging people who helped the US officials were like "DURRRR! Here are other Afghans who assisted us! Please help them reach the airport!"Quote:
U.S. officials in Kabul gave the Taliban a list of names of American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to grant entry into the militant-controlled outer perimeter of the city’s airport, a choice that's prompted outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.
The move, detailed to POLITICO by three U.S. and congressional officials, was designed to expedite the evacuation of tens of thousands of people from Afghanistan as chaos erupted in Afghanistan’s capital city last week after the Taliban seized control of the country. It also came as the Biden administration has been relying on the Taliban for security outside the airport.
Since the fall of Kabul in mid-August, nearly 100,000 people have been evacuated, most of whom had to pass through the Taliban's many checkpoints. But the decision to provide specific names to the Taliban, which has a history of brutally murdering Afghans who collaborated with the U.S. and other coalition forces during the conflict, has angered lawmakers and military officials.
“Basically, they just put all those Afghans on a kill list,” said one defense official, who like others spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic. “It’s just appalling and shocking and makes you feel unclean.”
You are thinking like a westerner. Like Gelston said, they want us there, they are now more emboldened than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
Looks like the Biden administration is already pushing the blame onto Americans if they remain trapped in the country after the US pulls out:
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When asked why the United States did not begin evacuating our citizens and allies from Afghanistan sooner, the acting U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan Ross Wilson said they were given more than enough warning to leave since March or April.
"Never in my 40 years of working, since I began working at the State Department, have I seen such strong language used. People chose not to leave. That's their business. That's their right," Wilson told CBS News on Wednesday. "We regret now that many may find themselves in a position that they would rather not be in. And we are determined to try to help them."
I mean. They did freely travel to a war torn country. That piece is on them.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can to get them out, but they chose to be there.
What should they have done, assuming this is true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Originally Posted by Alfster
Oh I don't know...maybe Biden should have been honest from the very beginning and said "We expect the Afghan government to completely fail within a few months after we leave so we encourage all US citizens to leave the country immediately."Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Instead just a month ago he was singing the Afghan government's praises and saying they can hold off a Taliban attack.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Well, when you travel to a war torn country, you should understand that shit can happen at any time and on extremely short notice, we can agree to that. If you are on the state departments STEP program, I’m 100% sure you were told of the current situation. From what I read the embassy told US citizens to get out from August 7th, offering full funding for it as well(I’ve never heard of full funding ever happening before, so it must have been extremely serious)
Now I’m in no way taking away from the absolute shit show and royal fuck up that has happened/is happening in Afghanistan.
The ones that chose to stay and are still there understood the full gravity of the risk that came with being in that country. Yes we should of course 100% help them. But the blame is partly on them.
If the state department told me to get the fuck out and we will pay for everything, I’m getting the fuck out ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Think of it like, a giant ass cat 5 hurricane is bearing down on the states, they give you short time to evacuate, yet some idiots chose to stay and end up dying or are forced to be rescued causing others to die because of it.
Regarding the second point, I think the Afghan government might have been a way too overconfident in their ability to fight the Taliban. They quite possibly could have told us they could handle them.
Yes but again why didn't Biden just be honest? He straight up lied to the American people and made it sound like the Afghan government was just gonna be another normal and functioning government that could take care of its shit. Biden certainly didn't tell everyone that he expected the Afghan government to fall within a few months and that everything was okay, because he wanted to be credited with ending the war and if the government fell a few months later OOPS! I didn't know that would happen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Let's not draw blame away from Biden for being a liar and place the blame on the victims here.
If Biden had said back in March that intelligence reports suggested the Afghan government was going to collapse within several months after US troops withdrew and urged Americans to leave immediately then I would say okay, this is on those people who waited until the last minute to evacuate. But he didn't do that.
Except Biden DIDN'T warn US citizens of the imminent collapse of the Afghan government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
Maybe Biden was given false intel by the Afghan government about their ability to handle the Taliban?
The state department through the embassy in Afghanistan issued a warning on august 7th for Americans to get the fuck out, fully paid for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I’m not sure if that’s enough time to evacuate or not, but I’m sure you would have left ASAP.
Once again, Biden ROYALLY fuck this up, he deserves the lion’s share of the blame. But the Americans that chose not to listen to the warnings, chose to be in this war-torn country and chose to stay deserve some of the blame as well.
No, he admitted a few days ago that the intelligence said the Afghan government would fall by the end of the year, which is just a few months away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Yes August 7th, they should have been telling people this long before the Taliban started taking over cities without much effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Yup 100% agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Honestly, that is more than enough time for US citizens to get out, especially when the state department is paying for it allQuote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Yeah sure it's plenty of time if the roads were clear, the runways were clear, and there wasn't a terrorist organization in control of the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's not like people were just sitting around waiting for a limo to pick them up. The roads were packed with cars and people trying to flee the country. The runways were also filled with people trying to fly the country. The airport is filled with people trying to fly the country. Biden decided to funnel everyone (Americans, foreign nationals, Afghans) to ONE airport in the most populated city in the entire country.
The State Department has been telling US Citizens since prior to March 2020 to leave Afghanistan immediately and has posted regular Level 4 warnings to Do Not Travel. That /any/ citizens are still there that aren't connected with the military is pure insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Maybe 100% honesty instead of just 25% honesty would have helped? You know something like "The Afghan government will fall by the end of the year and no one will be around to protect you if you stay after we pull our military out of the country."Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Not a bunch of statements such as "I have complete faith in the Aghan government! They have 300k well equiped and trained soldiers! More than most of our NATO allies!!!!"
So now that you know that those non-military Americans have known for a year and a half to leave Afghanistan you fall back on the same Biden mislead the public nonsense. Three Presidents all came before Biden, none seemed to know Afghanistan was going to fail, including your orange messiah who brokered the agreement that lead to the downfall of the Afghanistan government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You truly need pull your head out of your Conservative ass and stop blaming everything on Biden, this was the hand he was dealt.
Without all of the facts that Biden knew about which was that the Afghan government was going to collapse shortly after our troops withdrew, which has been my argument from the very beginning that Biden should have told them that, so you can kindly knock off your strawman and deflection shit right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Honest question: just how low are you willing to go to defend the heartless ghoul currently occupying the White House?
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
If the Afghan government actually held on until the end of the year, like Biden thought, yes the roads/runways would have been clear as of now, a terrorist organization wouldn't have been in control right now etc etc. I think the world was shocked on how fast Taliban took over.
I think the Afghan government was feeding us bullshit information, we weren’t prepared for an immediate collapse. No one was. Should we have had a contingency plan in case something like this happened? Yeah, we should have.
But if we were telling people since March of 2020 to get the fuck out, that’s NOT on Biden, they had more than a year to leave and they chose to stay.
I found Seran's Twitter account:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08...0018865033.jpg
Imagine still supporting a political party that supports killing babies, sexualizing children, removing genitalia, believes men can breastfeed, ditching our allies and ditching our citizens.
He literally laughed and scoffed at the question about the Taliban taking over Afghanistan was inevitable. He had enough Intelligence to know that this would most likely happen rather quickly.. but decided to laugh at the silliness of the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Haha, no it wouldn't have. The Taliban probably has just as much (or more) control as the ANA would have. It would have been a clusterfuck regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
This was the hand he literally picked for himself in an effort to get a "win"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
At least his record of being on the wrong side of every foreign policy decision is still going strong...
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Originally Posted by Gelston
You think if the Afghan government was still in control until the end of the year, the airport would still be like it is now? I don’t think so.
It would have been an absolute shit show down the road, but the month of august wouldn’t have been like it is now, IF they continued to hold onto power throughout the year.
So y'all pushing for president chica? Or y'all believe that the runner up somehow gets to be president when Biden resigns? Qanon is strange.
For as long as he continues doing the right thing and leads our country well, which in my opinion is exemplified by the no nonsense withdrawal from Afghanistan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You really should take the time to listen to the Dan Carlin video I posted about the history of Afghanistan. It would help you understand the societal politics of the region and how puppet leaders end up with their heads being displayed in the public square.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's rather fascinating how similar this withdraw is to the first time the UK was kicked out of Afghanistan 180 years ago. The Brits literally were made to abandon their weapons, told to leave and then massacred with their own weapons.
I would go as far as to argue that displaying the rainbow flag was a really stupid move.
Tell the 100 people he got killed that he did the “right thing.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Sad day when time4fun gives Biden shit almost immediately because she was worried something like this would happen and here you are still defending the ghoul AFTER something like this happens.
And what.. are you saying that the President has super powers that should have allowed him to predict American soldiers from being hurt or killed? Because if that's part of the job description, I think a lot more people would be interested in being political punching bags. By your logic, the 69 deaths in Afghanistan under Trump should never have happened either. Shame on Trump!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You can pretend all you want that I haven't pointed out just how badly the ghoul fucked this all up and how he could have done things differently in a pathetic attempt to defend the ghoul's failures, but you're only fooling yourself because your brain has turned into mush trying to defend the current occupant of the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Yeah, you've used hyperbole and misinformation like the rest of your Conservashit friends to blow everything out of proportion. It's war torn country, people get hurt and people die. It's unfortunate, sad, but it happens. You're confusing your hatred for Biden and your party's desire to stay forever in Afghanistan with poor leadership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Quoting this for when we have more troops in Afghanistan in 2022 than we had at the end of 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Oh no, a quote. Goodness, I'm intimidated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Wait a minute...weren't you one of the people saying it's Trump's fault people died to a virus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Yet Biden bears no responsibility for his direct actions that caused the scene at the Afghan airport?
I'm actually giving you the spread on this considering we already have more troops in Afghanistan than we had at the end of Trumps term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Mostly because Biden withdrew troops before evacuating civilians.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...anovertime.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Interesting comparison there. Trump caused hundreds of thousands of deaths by actively opposing measures that would prevent people from protecting the self and others from a highly contagious disease. To even have an accurate comparison, Biden would have had to have ordered our troops to take up stations to thwart ISIS in downtown Toronto and spent months demanding the Canadians surrender the insurgents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
But that's no what happened. Our President is following through with a responsible, structured plan of withdrawal laid out under their advice of his military advisors. Bad things can and likely will happen, because it is impossible to prevent. But at least Biden cares about our troops and our nation, instead of funneling money to the Trump Organization like the former president did.
You’re stupid as fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
That's interesting, you use a graph with data ending in 2017 to prove a point about troop levels in 2021. Has your Trump Derangement Syndrome made it so you don't know what year it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
I'm using the graph to point out that your beloved Democrat party exploded the troop deployment in Afghanistan by nearly 3x as soon as they took the house, senate and executive branches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
So you DID blame Trump for a virus that literally originated in China yet you won't pin the blame on Biden for actions that are 100% within his control?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You really are just the biggest piece of shit ever.
https://www.kron4.com/wp-content/upl...7D2.jpg?w=1280Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...-something-theQuote:
Government health agency official: Coronavirus 'isn't something the American public need to worry about'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ds/4787209002/Quote:
Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands
https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/02/04...health-expert/Quote:
Coronavirus ‘not something to panic about,’ says Berkeley health expert
:rofl: Thank you for demonstrating that you didn't actually listen to any of the interviews in the links you provided, Alwaysracist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
I imagine that outside of this game you must not get very much respect, because your ability to rationalize cause and effect is absolutely non existent. Yes, covid-19 originated in China, a known fact and a well studied and preventable dieases, yes Trump mocked and ridiculed the usage of masks, social distancing, vaccines and encouraged folks to eject bleach. Thus causing hundreds of thousands of more deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Yes, ISIS has a branch in Afghanistan, yes they attacked the US Military and civilians at the airport. No, Biden couldn't stop an unknown perpetrator, no Biden isn't responsible for failing to know the future.
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Originally Posted by Ashliana
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...-something-theQuote:
“It’s a very, very low risk to the United States,” Fauci said during an interview with radio show host John Catsimatidis.
Show us where Trump told people to "inject" bleach, let alone "eject" it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Was he telling people to eject all their bleach out of their homes?
I remember when Hussein launched all his scud missiles into our twin towers so we had to go to war with him.
I wish I could go back in time and make Bush Jr. take a moment from snorting coke off of Condie's boobs to appropriate every-fucking-thing that went to Iraq to go to Afghanistan instead.
Also, I wish I could go back in time and stop 9/11, but only slightly more than the above go-back-in-time scenario.
Feh.
Thank you for doubling down again, further demonstrating that you didn't actually listen to any of the interviews you referenced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Why did you think a huge, neon sign saying "Look how retarded Neveragain is!" was a good look? ... Because performative retardation is the go-to strategy for conservatism in 2021.
Spectacular, as always, Alwaysracist.
:rofl:
You sound really mad that Dr. Fauci Mengele lied and people died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
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Originally Posted by Stanley Burrell
Shalom!Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
You sound really mad that your not having bothered to actually read/listen to an interview, and it not containing what you wanted to imply, ended up blowing up in your face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Best of luck coming to terms with reality, Alwaysracist.
Donald Trump - 04/23/2021Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
It's even funnier when you link Trump's diarrhea to what prompted it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Or that the best move he was left with, after being humiliated, was to bullshit that his comments were "sarcasm."
:rofl:
So, nowhere are you told to eject or inject bleach, in fact, the word bleach isn't even mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Bevakasha, b'simcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stanley Burrell
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Originally Posted by Neveragain
Yes, I’m well aware of how it’s like over there. Still, if the Afghan government was still in control right now, the situation wouldn’t be like it is now in Kabul.
You're obviously not aware. "The Afghan government" ,as you put it, was a puppet government installed by a foreign invader that was trying to instill an ideology that disrespects their culture. This is the same mistake the UK made on multiple occasions and ended in similar fashion. We would have been peachy had we not fucked with their way of life and just left after killing Osama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
In our culture, if I offer you an apple it would be common courtesy for you to say "thank you" after receiving the apple. In their culture no thanks would be given until the apple was consumed and the apple being worthy of thanks.
Durr, but Seran the Trump only says the injection inside of disinfectant. It is an important differentiation the President was not promoting bleaching disinfectant specifically. The President was not paid to enforce bleach, so could gave meantime ammonia or isopropyl rubbing alcohol. DurrQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
That doesn’t change the fact that it wouldn’t be as bad as it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Are you having a stroke?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Originally Posted by Seran
From this day forth, you shall be known as "Seran the Trump"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxmK1192-LY
He got it.
This guy doesn't...
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Which is ironic, because his agreement with the Taliban was nothing but laying out troop numbers with "arbitrary" withdrawal dates. So much for not announcing our plans with the enemy, guess it didn't count for the Trump administration if they were making plans directly with the Taliban.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
With specific measures that the Taliban had to stick with or the deal was off...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
We can be clear though: Under Trump, Afghanistan was much safer than under Biden.
Yeah? So Trump failing to evacuate American citizens while drawing down troops while the Taliban was in flagrant violation of the agreement, you saw that as safe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Was this before or after he met and made an agreement with a terrorist organization?
You didn't see the date of the video?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
What was the Taliban "in flagrant violation of the agreement" specifically?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
And the way Trump was going about it was obviously far more safe for everyone than the way Biden did it.
They were required to begin talks for a power sharing agreement with the then Afghanistan government. They did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The were required to end involvement and remove their associations with terrorist elements in provinces they control. They did not and per the UN Investigators assigned to Afghanistan, the Taliban continues working with al-Qaida to this day.
Afghanistan was, is and will continue being shit show. But thankfully without our presence any longer.
So, maybe that is why the Trump Administration didn't completely pull out of Afghanistan, given that they broke the agreement (per your post.. I have no knowledge of the specifics of the agreement)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
And probably adds fuel to the dumpster fire as to why the Biden Administration has completely fucked this mess up. If what you are saying is true and the Taliban has not lived up to the agreement.. then the Biden Administration could have easily been within their rights to cancel the agreement of withdrawal. And if what you are saying is true... why the hell is Biden telling us that the Taliban and al-Qaida not working together? Why would he give the Taliban the biometric data on the people we want to get out of Afghanistan??
You aren't helping President Biden at this point and should re-evaluate your position.
Of course not, because Biden wanted full credit for "ending" the Afghanistan war knowing full well his own intelligence suggested the Afghan government would fall within a few months, but by then he could just say "Oh well! Not my fault! All of our people got out safe!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
He either didn't realize what a complete shitshow this would turn into or he simply didn't care and was hoping the media would run cover for his failure, just like they've been doing since day 1 of him announcing his run for president. And useful idiots like Seran keep shilling for him.
RCT's explanation for Trump's own SecDef criticizing him for continuing to withdraw troops despite the Taliban not meeting their end of the Trump administration's surrender deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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And FYI, you don't need to explicitly state that you didn't know any of the details, TB. Hilarious, willful ignorance is your thing, and what anyone would expect from a 60 year old who cleans ducts for a living. Speaking of your thing, please post in your meltdown thread right away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
:rofl:
That's cute. In your dementia riddled brain, Trump gets a pass for withdrawing troops and failing to evacuate citizens while the Taliban violated an agreement HIS ADMINISTRATION penned. But Biden is somehow at fault for not immediately reversing Trump's failures as commander and chief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
This just goes back to what I've said all along. Republicans intentionally drive out country into debt, initiate massive foreign policy failures and wars, then hope and prey Democrats fix it once they're out of office. In Ayn Rand's perspective, the Republicans are the looters.
Oh Seran The Trump.... when was President Trump scheduled to evacuate the citizens? May 2021.. when he wasn't President? And that was only IF the Taliban didn't violate the agreement... which you have said that they did?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
President Biden is at fault because he actually DID make a withdrawal date (9-11-21.. until his advisors told him that is an absolutely retarded date so he changed it to 8-31-21) and began retreating to ensure he would make that date. Now his "ally" in this, the Taliban, has been armed with all the stuff we just left behind. Fantastic idea...
You haven't seen their 5 trillion spending they want to push through yet.. have you..Quote:
This just goes back to what I've said all along. Republicans intentionally drive out country into debt, initiate massive foreign policy failures and wars, then hope and prey Democrats fix it once they're out of office. In Ayn Rand's perspective, the Republicans are the looters.
Also, President Trump was the most peaceful President since Ford. And that record will easily stand after your President Biden leaves or is removed from office.
Wow, you really are deranged. Trump's agreement called for troops today be out of Afghanistan by 5/1/2021, but American citizens and contractors were not moved. Then Trump's burger eating ass was kicked from the Oval and President Biden declared the Agreement violated and began PROPER evacuation of citizens and troops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Again, Trump put into place a totally bogus Agreement, dubbed by his own staff as the great retreat. The President did very little to effectuate the agreement, except congratulating himself publicly and say how perfect it was going. It wasn't and what we see barely six months after Trump was replaced is the result of his failures.
Lolol.. so according to Seran The Trump, Trump's agreement was null and void when Biden took office and he's doing it the proper way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
"Only 13 service people and 100+ Afghans were killed by Biden doing it PROPERLY. " - Seran The Trump 2021
You really are retarded.
Yes, yes.... we see how amazing President Biden is doing on this right now.Quote:
Again, Trump put into place a totally bogus Agreement, dubbed by his own staff as the great retreat. The President did very little to effectuate the agreement, except congratulating himself publicly and say how perfect it was going. It wasn't and what we see barely six months after Trump was replaced is the result of his failures.
https://youtu.be/v2o_EAeW4m0Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The Biden administration figures there are about a couple hundred Americans still trapped in Afghanistan.
So much for Biden getting the bare minimum accomplished, which was to evacuate every single American citizen and Afghan who helped us.
This has been a complete and utter failure on Biden's part. He not only has blood on his hand but he left vulnerable Americans and Afghans behind.
You are nothing but a partisan hack if you give him any sort of props for this failure. Enough of your ghoulish "Only a few Americans died, big deal!"
It didn't have to go down this way, but Biden wanted credit for ending the war at any cost and he got that "victory."
There are reports the Taliban are now going house to house and executing people they believe helped the US.
Remember US officials under Biden also gave the Taliban a list of the names of all US citizens and Afghans who helped the US, believing the Taliban would allow these people safe passage to the airport to be evacuated. Most likely they are now using this list to find the people who helped the US and are now murdering them in cold blood.
Yet another gigantic failure on Biden's part that didn't need to happen. Who knows how many people are going to be violently murdered because this dementia riddled ghoul is currently occupying the White House.
Best part of his address today - paraphrasing:
"It was my decision to get out of Afghanistan!"
"My predecessor had set the plan in motion to withdraw from Afghanistan!"
See what he did there? LOL. - Fucking dingbat. But the masses will not get that nuance.
Again, leaving Afghanistan - Good.
The way this administration implemented it (and is now trying to reword/redefine what happened) - Bad.
Yup. He's still desperate to fool people to repeat that he "ended the war!!!" while at the same time wanting to pin the blame on Trump for the failure of his withdraw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Thank goodness Biden got us out of Afghanistan before more Americans died. Most of us respect them right of the fewer than two hundred who asked to stay in that country despite being offered secured flights out of the country. Can't imagine the sort of individual who believes citizens in other countries should be forcibly removed against their will without having committed a crime.
Except he didn't. He got 13 Americans murdered because he created a gigantic cluster fuck at the only evacuation site that allowed a suicide bomber to kill almost 100 people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You're really going to repeat Biden's lie that the only Americans still trapped in Afghanistan actually wanted to be trapped in Afghanistan? I sure as hell hope you're getting paid to be this stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
One woman still trapped in Afghanistan already did an interview with the murderer governor's brother who said she tried to escape and followed all of the instructions she was given yet she still couldn't escape and was instead tear gassed and no one warned her that the final plane that left was indeed the final plane. So kindly go fuck yourself.
Let's all have a pity party over Americans willfully traveling to an active warzone and not being able to get out.
Maybe they shouldn't travel to a warzone? I mean, the government's providing free rides home, surprised you have not denounced that socialism yet.
Maybe Biden shouldn't have completely flubbed this evacuation and actually followed through with his promise to evacuate all Americans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Maybe he shouldn't have made a promise that was unrealistic from the start?
Party of personal responsibility crying that the government isn't funding more people's vacations. Hahahaha
You think the people Biden left behind are vacationing in Afghanistan? Holy shit. But this shouldn't surprise me, you also think someone who died from COVID really died from self medication.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
There were people vacationing in Afghanistan. There is a story about several people who went there on break to visit with relatives and they are stuck there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I wouldn't really consider visiting relatives in Afghanistan to be a vacation. Maybe we just differ on what we consider a vacation to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Vacation doesn't necessarily mean sunny beaches or theme parks. It just means a leave of absence from work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I mean. The only story I can find talks about heading there to visit family. It's not like they were sent there from work... What do you call it when you're not at work and visiting people? Vacation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
As far as self medicating. I'm not saying that's what killed him. I'm saying his choice to self medicate instead of seeking proper help earlier is what likely killed him.
So if I visit my relatives 10 miles away is that a vacation too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
You must not have looked very hard, probably because it doesn't fit your narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
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An American woman, and former military interpreter, remains trapped in Afghanistan after the last US flight departed.
She worked for the US military as an interpreter and was there trying to help vulnerable Afghans evacuate before the Taliban took over.Quote:
Sara and 37 Afghans she was trying to save were living in her house.
But I guess maybe she was just vacationing too right?
I mean, she wasn't there on behalf of the military, as she was former military. So while I can respect her reason for being there, she still willfully went there and knew the risks during a war.
Did we leave embassy staff / family behind? That'd be a huge fuckup, far more than a civilian trying to save the world.
And if you'd listened to the interview she gave, you'd know she DECIDED to stay behind until all the children she was teaching could be evacuated to. Even the damned article says she was pretending a random man and six kids were theirs, do you honestly think if she'd gotten through the checkpoints she'd have been given a magical pass to abduct seven randoms without paperwork? Get a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
People who are still in Afghanistan are still there due to choosing to be left behind. Even the dozen or so kids from the El Cajon school district were Afghanistan children who were temporarily in the United States for schooling. They went home to visit their actual families. No, they weren't American citizens despite how you might want to lie about it. All sorts of folks had legitimate Visas and didn't get evacuated and for every one legitimate, twenty others were trying to pass of copies of someone else's visa or wanted to us an application as means of escape. It doesn't work that way.
So instead of crying your salty tears over the fewer than two hundred actual citizens who chose not to leave, you look at the UNPARALLED 120,000+ Afghans who were transported to temporary holding countries to validate their claims.
She probably didn't think an incompetent ghoul would be occupying the White House that would prioritize scoring a political win over saving lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
What a monster!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Also you're full of shit because she said she tried to escape several times but couldn't because of Taliban checkpoints and one time when she made it to the airport she couldn't get through the crowd of people and was tear gassed.
Maybe JUST MAYBE Biden could have acted like a leader for once and had the military hold onto the entire city of Kabul until all citizens were evacuated instead of allowing the Taliban to take control of the entire country and set up checkpoints while US civilians were still trapped in the country.
Knock it off with your partisan bullshit already. Biden is a complete failure. He got Americans killed because of his incompetence. His incompetence has now allowed hundreds of Americans to be trapped in Afghanistan.
Go fuck yourself.
"The buck stops with me and I take full responsibility.. but this isn't my fault"Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
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Originally Posted by Seran
If you polish that turd long enough... maybe it won't look like a turd..
https://i.imgur.com/oydJHS9.gif
Is that really considered a "vacation" though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
How funny, telling me to knock off my partisan bullshit so you can spread lies and misinformation freely. Dude, you lie so fucking much that it is stunning. The amount of misinformation, cherry picking of facts, all of which is heavily partisan is unprecedented. Everything you post is negative. If the dude were to save the world and forgot to shake someone's hand while accepting his Nobel Peace prize, you'd call him the biggest failure since Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
That is your benchmark? "Well, this wasn't a HUGE fuckup.... because we didn't leave embassy staff / family behind"Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
https://i.imgur.com/oydJHS9.gif
What was your posting style like from 2017 to 2020?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You’re seriously the biggest faggot ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Blah blah blah. Your deflection is pathetic. Stop band wagoning. Stop shilling for murderers and rapists. And stop defending old ghouls who don't care about human life just because they have a D after their name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Are you taking a leave of absence from work? That is the key point. If you disagree you can talk to the dictionary people and tell them they are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Why is it the government's job to get her out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Why is it the government's job to get out private citizens that willingly traveled to the country? It's the government's job to get military and government employees out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Republicans asking for the government to be travel agents. Good ole party of personal responsibility and small government. Right.
That's like the main purpose of an embassy, to help and protect their citizens in said country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
In case you forgot we DID have an embassy there until fuckhead fucked everything up.
You're acting like these Americans sneaked into North Korea or something and are now expecting the US government to rescue them. Get your shit together and stop shilling for the ghoul.
Why is it important that a restaurant deliver the food to the customer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
"Travel agents." For fuck's sake. You fell for fake news article after fake news article in regards to Trump, but when actual events take place where Biden fucked up in every possible conceivable way you still manage to find a way to defend him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
It's okay for you to be honest about how much of a fuckup Biden is, it doesn't mean you now like Trump.
Why is it important to show up for work just to collect a paycheck, guys?
Besides the office fantasy football you mean? Not much really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
What if you’re rich and don’t work and go on a trip to Hawaii?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
An embassy is there to provide information, services and to offer shelter. This woman and others ignored the information being provided by the State Department to pursue their own agendas. They chose to stay. Again, a free society doesn't mean that the government has the right to abduct its citizens in another country. It asks, they declined. Imagine the inarticulate shrieking you'd be doing if military personnel held guns to their heads and ordered them to board airplanes and helicopters leaving the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Get real.
Holy shit you are dramatically understating the main purpose of embassies in order to carry Biden's water even farther than you already are. You think an embassy is just fucking 411 for citizens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
We had an official diplomatic mission in Afghanistan. You and Alfster keep acting like these Americans were crossing over into North Korea then got into trouble.
Facts:
The US had an embassy in Afghanistan
US embassies are supposed to help American citizens in said country
Biden purposefully lied to the whole world when he said the Afghan army could hold off the Taliban when his own intelligence told him a few months at best
Biden created an absolute clusterfuck by funneling EVERY fleeing person into one small airport in the largest city in the country
Biden said he would evacuate every American, he failed at that
Biden fucked up this withdrawal so bad that only fiction writers could have written something this absurd
Not facts:
Whatever dumb shit you keep saying
I'm not defending Biden. Lol. I've already stated in here that this is mismanaged from the he start. Hell. He promised to get everyone out and didn't manage to live up to the promise. Thats entirely on his administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I just would think therea a bit of Personal responsibility in all of this
Is it not our job to get Afghanis that helped us over the past 20 years, out of the country before they are hunted down and killed? Do you believe they are just on vacation there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
I realize you are just doing your job as a dutiful Liberal... carry the shit smelling water and pretending it's good when you have to drink it... just because this isn't Trump.. but this was a shitshow from the getgo and pretending it's some sort of victory like the President was screaming for us to do last night isn't what actually happened.
This is what happens when you roleplay Neville Chamberlain and pretend you just made a good deal.
See, there you go making up shit again and twisting facts to suit your partisan rhetoric. Yes, there is an embassy and their mission is to provide information and services, that's not in question. The embassy has been helping Americans and Afghans leave the country for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Biden was provided bad intelligence and shared based intelligence, his bad. Despite that, he successfully evacuated 120,000 people, including every American who wanted to leave. His military commanders secured a defensible positing at an airport within the city to affect this. It was a successful mission, despite an unexpected and unpreventable suicide bombing.
The other airport, Bagram was miles and miles outside of the city and too massive to defend. To move tens of thousands safely through the desert was impossible and so they didn't. You'd know this if you listened to briefings, instead of lying about facts and being an armchair warrior.
Biden successfully got us out of Afghanistan, that's all Americans will care about in a year.
US Embassies are supposed to help US Citizens, but DoS also puts out warnings. They said "Don't go to Afghanistan." People still did. It is really down to personal responsibility.
FACTS:
Former President Donald J Trump negotiated with our enemies a retreat from Afghanistan. This one-sided agreement do not involve the legitimate government of Afghanistan and thus destroy the credibility of that government. This has been known for a year and cited by both Republicans and Democrats.
Donald Trump did not give orders to his State Department to start arranging evacuations of Americans in the 9 months he was in office and acting under his Agreement with the Enemy.
Donald Trump did not prepare our Afghanistan allies for American departure in those 9 months further worsening their position. All of the equipment left in Afghanistan is the result of Donald Trump's failed leadership.
President Biden put together a plan in the six months he has been in office and successfully got us out of Afghanistan despite the nonsense that Donald J Trump created
I like how you omit that Trump and Biden are replaceable names in your first point. They both did the same fucking thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You’re a huge tard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Translation: "If I wish really hard, can I erase what Seran said? Let's find out! HNNNNNNnnnnnnnhhhhh...!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://media.giphy.com/media/3FBwwR...giphy.gif&ct=g
I like the irony of all the speakers Fox and CNN both are bringing on to talk smack about us leaving Afghanistan are registered lobbyists for the defense production industry. Literally people who are employed to profit off of War
Afghanistan was the perfect playground for defense contractors because it was off the radar of most Americans for so long. 90% of the outrage being ginned up is the death throes of that particular grift being exposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Republicans praying nobody notices the Taliban is being led by one of the people Trump let out of prison in exchange for absolutely nothing:
https://i.imgflip.com/3plblm.png
normally I ignore your idiocy, but seriously? Even for you this is plumbing new lows.
No, Obama traded 5 prisoners from Guantanamo Bay for the return of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was ultimately court-martialed and pleaded guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. In 2017, he was sentenced to a dishonorable discharge. Last year, the US military’s top appeals court upheld the conviction against him.
Khairullah Khairkhwa the Taliban mullah whom Obama released from Gitmo even though the Pentagon classified him as too dangerous to release. Earlier this year, Khairullah Khairkhwa, actually sat across the table from President Biden’s envoy to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, in Moscow, where Khairkhwa was part of the official Taliban delegation that negotiated the final terms of the US withdrawal. The retreat cleared a path for the Taliban to retake power after 20 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_Bergdahl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_Five
Or maybe you would care to explain how Trump did this in June of 2014, remind us who was President in 2014? If you need to take your shoes off to count that high, I'll wait.
Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, widely expected to be the next Taliban-appointed leader of Afghanistan, was released from prison in Pakistan due to negotiation by the Trump administration as part of their surrender deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slider's Non-Sequitur
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-talib...ee-11629154710
Your wishes don't change reality, and neither does your slew of irrelevant nonsense that has no bearing on anything that I said. Remind us who was president in 2018 when the US government lobbied for his release? If you need to take your shoes off to count that high, I'll wait. Dipshit.
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Originally Posted by Seran
Tell us more about how a puppet government installed by a foreign invader is a "legitimate government".Quote:
the legitimate government of Afghanistan
Just because you don't recognize the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan, the Afghan people do.
Perhaps after Jan. 6th, had Democrats first order of business not been gender pronouns and flying the pride flag over the US embassies, which has pissed off other countries besides Afghanistan, they could have focused on an organized withdraw.
This administration has been behind on everything but at least we have Jen Psaki playing office with fingernail boy to show for it.
P.S. I can't wait for sleepy Joe to cure cancer.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
"Nnhgh, Donald Trump fucked up the country so bad that we're needed a real leader to fix all of his mistakes." - NeveragainQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
If you're saying the "personal responsibility" was trusting Biden then you are correct for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
"Gender pronouns and pride flags were more important than organizing a withdraw from Afghanistan." ~ SeranQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
This should be a hard fast rule for always and everyone.. not just normally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slider
And if you need to respond to it, just do that in the specially padded cell I created for it.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...d-for-Ashliana
Translation: "Although you couldn't come up with a substantive reply, how about participating in my 7-month long meltdown? I feel slightly less obsessed with Ashliana when other people indulge me."Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
:rofl:
I mean. Who voted against a expedited visas for those folks? Oh right. 16 of those individuals who are now claiming they're super upset how everything went down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking specifically about the folks who are united states citizens that travelled there willingly. That is 100% on them. Whether they were there for personal travel, or to push Christianity or wtf ever. They have to own that decision.
It's amazing how far you bend over backwards to defend Biden's incompetence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
"It's not Biden's fault!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
https://i.imgur.com/oydJHS9.gif
I think both arguments can be correct. People who went made a poor decision and have responsibility in that decision. Biden's pull out was probably the worst organized retreat in American history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
/agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
https://nypost.com/2021/09/10/kabul-...-isis-bombers/
I thought it was weird when they weren't releasing the bomber's identity when this happened.
Looks like they killed an innocent family.
Seran will be along shortly once he figures out how to blame this on Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
What a complete shit show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
CNN had an interview with Pakistan's Prime Minister who is encouraging the world to give the Taliban time to form a stable government. I'd recommend reading the interview.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/asia/...hnk/index.htmlQuote:
Pakistan's Prime Minister Imran Khan said the best way forward for peace and stability in Afghanistan is to engage with the Taliban and "incentivize" them on issues such as women's rights and inclusive government.
Speaking to CNN from his private Bani Gala residence in Islamabad on Wednesday, Khan spoke about enduring what he perceived as a "terrible" relationship with the United States that has been disastrous for Pakistan and how he is now seeking a more pragmatic approach in dealing with Afghanistan's new leaders.
The Pakistan Nationale Security Advisor also gave an interview, this one through Al Jazeera.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...ban-government
Personally, I find fault that any aid is owed to Afghanistan beyond basic food assistance now coming through the UN that America pledged to donate to. Freeing up $10 billion in cash reserves would just be used to fund the oppressive group. I legitimately believe a year or a few years of sewing what they do with the country without giving them a dime will be a true test of their pledges to not support terrorism.
If they need money, they need to turn to the country's massive opium operations.
I'm waiting for the left to embrace Sharia Law.. because they are that fucking stupid.
Looking more and more likely that they never killed anyone from ISIS-K and just killed an innocent family, including 7 children who were just in a similar vehicle to what they claimed they were looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
No asking questions! Just praise Biden!Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
That's not a Biden issue.. that is military leadership issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Someone made a bad call and now a whole family is killed because of it.
That has got to be really hard on the drone pilot that pulled that trigger.
Someone told him to do it though right? I don't know enough about the military anymore but someone had to say, blow up that dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Of course, but when it comes down to it, it is still that person finger that pulled the trigger. He is probably also the one that spotted the vehicle that he felt matched the description of the target he was seeking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
My favorite part was the Biden Administration not releasing the name of the terrorist(s) they killed.... knew something was up.
The pentagon said they tracked the vehicle for EIGHT hours and deemed it an “imminent” threat.
Seriously what the fuck is going on? Sure sounds like someone along the chain of command just wanted someone dead so they could claim some sort of retribution for the suicide bombing of the airport.
You follow the vehicle for eight hours and somehow wrongly conclude it was an “imminent” threat? Someone’s head should roll for this, but Trump isn’t president so nothing will happen.
Not only that, but they knew soon after it happened that they made a grave error and STILL said they prevented another suicide bombing. And when they were asked what the names are, they refused to release them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
That was almost 3 weeks ago when this happened.. and it is JUST now coming out that they killed an innocent family.
And they released that information on a Friday in the late afternoon in hopes it just gets buried over the weekend.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/18/polit...ans/index.html
It wasn't that a mistake happened, they do unfortunately.
It was the political/military cover-up by leadership that is the issue. They knew that day what was what, and the Administration still went out with their story because they were getting crushed for their inept withdrawal strategy and subsequent clusterfuck.
And agreed... the operators that executed the mission will carry it with them always.
Biden wanted to look tough and in control of the events that were going on at the time due to his bungling of surrender in Afghanistan and ordered the strike. "Hey, we killed a car bomb that was coming to the airport to kill more people!" was their story and kept telling that heroic story for 3 straight weeks until they were exposed.
Hey guys, let's blame President Biden for the exit agreement negotiated between Trump and the Taliban. It's so much easier blaming Democrats for Republicant failure.
Let's blame Trump for blowing up an aid worker and a bunch of children even though he hasn't been president in over 8 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I mean, if you want to, but you'd literally become the only one on the planet who is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Some of the original footage showed a miniature katyusha rocket rig in the back seat of a burnt out car. Now the burnt out car they are showing has no rocket launcher in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Original media shown to the public:
https://static.dw.com/image/59024565_303.jpg
Media now being shown:
https://cdn-japantimes.com/wp-conten...le_109342.jpeg
It's not even the same car or location.
"Even though Biden broke the deal that Trump made when we were going to leave in May, it's still Trump's fault because....because.....IT JUST IS OKAYYY?!?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...29/936/98e.gif"
~Serandroidpk
Didn't you already say that the Taliban were not living up to their bargain with President Trump.. which would make the exit agreement void?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Make up your mind.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/taliban-o...154957376.html
Wow. Never saw that one coming. /bonk forehead
Like it is in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Qatar, UAE, Somolia and North Korea? It's almost like other countries have laws and sometimes barbaric practices that differ from ours. Gasp, shock, dismay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
"It's ok guys, other shithole countries do it too so that makes it ok. Get over it, Biden4Lyfe!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Serandroidpk