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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    Why is it the government's job to get out private citizens that willingly traveled to the country? It's the government's job to get military and government employees out.

    Republicans asking for the government to be travel agents. Good ole party of personal responsibility and small government. Right.
    Is it not our job to get Afghanis that helped us over the past 20 years, out of the country before they are hunted down and killed? Do you believe they are just on vacation there?

    I realize you are just doing your job as a dutiful Liberal... carry the shit smelling water and pretending it's good when you have to drink it... just because this isn't Trump.. but this was a shitshow from the getgo and pretending it's some sort of victory like the President was screaming for us to do last night isn't what actually happened.

    This is what happens when you roleplay Neville Chamberlain and pretend you just made a good deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Holy shit you are dramatically understating the main purpose of embassies in order to carry Biden's water even farther than you already are. You think an embassy is just fucking 411 for citizens?

    We had an official diplomatic mission in Afghanistan. You and Alfster keep acting like these Americans were crossing over into North Korea then got into trouble.

    Facts:

    The US had an embassy in Afghanistan
    US embassies are supposed to help American citizens in said country
    Biden purposefully lied to the whole world when he said the Afghan army could hold off the Taliban when his own intelligence told him a few months at best
    Biden created an absolute clusterfuck by funneling EVERY fleeing person into one small airport in the largest city in the country
    Biden said he would evacuate every American, he failed at that
    Biden fucked up this withdrawal so bad that only fiction writers could have written something this absurd

    Not facts:

    Whatever dumb shit you keep saying
    See, there you go making up shit again and twisting facts to suit your partisan rhetoric. Yes, there is an embassy and their mission is to provide information and services, that's not in question. The embassy has been helping Americans and Afghans leave the country for years.

    Biden was provided bad intelligence and shared based intelligence, his bad. Despite that, he successfully evacuated 120,000 people, including every American who wanted to leave. His military commanders secured a defensible positing at an airport within the city to affect this. It was a successful mission, despite an unexpected and unpreventable suicide bombing.

    The other airport, Bagram was miles and miles outside of the city and too massive to defend. To move tens of thousands safely through the desert was impossible and so they didn't. You'd know this if you listened to briefings, instead of lying about facts and being an armchair warrior.

    Biden successfully got us out of Afghanistan, that's all Americans will care about in a year.

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    US Embassies are supposed to help US Citizens, but DoS also puts out warnings. They said "Don't go to Afghanistan." People still did. It is really down to personal responsibility.
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    FACTS:
    Former President Donald J Trump negotiated with our enemies a retreat from Afghanistan. This one-sided agreement do not involve the legitimate government of Afghanistan and thus destroy the credibility of that government. This has been known for a year and cited by both Republicans and Democrats.
    Donald Trump did not give orders to his State Department to start arranging evacuations of Americans in the 9 months he was in office and acting under his Agreement with the Enemy.
    Donald Trump did not prepare our Afghanistan allies for American departure in those 9 months further worsening their position. All of the equipment left in Afghanistan is the result of Donald Trump's failed leadership.
    President Biden put together a plan in the six months he has been in office and successfully got us out of Afghanistan despite the nonsense that Donald J Trump created

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    FACTS:
    Former President Donald J Trump negotiated with our enemies a retreat from Afghanistan. This one-sided agreement do not involve the legitimate government of Afghanistan and thus destroy the credibility of that government. This has been known for a year and cited by both Republicans and Democrats.
    Donald Trump did not give orders to his State Department to start arranging evacuations of Americans in the 9 months he was in office and acting under his Agreement with the Enemy.
    Donald Trump did not prepare our Afghanistan allies for American departure in those 9 months further worsening their position. All of the equipment left in Afghanistan is the result of Donald Trump's failed leadership.
    President Biden put together a plan in the six months he has been in office and successfully got us out of Afghanistan despite the nonsense that Donald J Trump created
    I like how you omit that Trump and Biden are replaceable names in your first point. They both did the same fucking thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    FACTS:
    Former President Donald J Trump negotiated with our enemies a retreat from Afghanistan. This one-sided agreement do not involve the legitimate government of Afghanistan and thus destroy the credibility of that government. This has been known for a year and cited by both Republicans and Democrats.
    Donald Trump did not give orders to his State Department to start arranging evacuations of Americans in the 9 months he was in office and acting under his Agreement with the Enemy.
    Donald Trump did not prepare our Afghanistan allies for American departure in those 9 months further worsening their position. All of the equipment left in Afghanistan is the result of Donald Trump's failed leadership.
    President Biden put together a plan in the six months he has been in office and successfully got us out of Afghanistan despite the nonsense that Donald J Trump created
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methais View Post
    You’re a huge tard.
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    I like the irony of all the speakers Fox and CNN both are bringing on to talk smack about us leaving Afghanistan are registered lobbyists for the defense production industry. Literally people who are employed to profit off of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    I like the irony of all the speakers Fox and CNN both are bringing on to talk smack about us leaving Afghanistan are registered lobbyists for the defense production industry. Literally people who are employed to profit off of War
    Afghanistan was the perfect playground for defense contractors because it was off the radar of most Americans for so long. 90% of the outrage being ginned up is the death throes of that particular grift being exposed.
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    Republicans praying nobody notices the Taliban is being led by one of the people Trump let out of prison in exchange for absolutely nothing:


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