Obama got us out of the recession by playing golf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
No wait, that can't be right. If his golf playing improved our economy our national debt would be zero by now.
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Obama got us out of the recession by playing golf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
No wait, that can't be right. If his golf playing improved our economy our national debt would be zero by now.
Oh what, he has to be good at golf because he's BLACK???Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You ask for examples because there hasn't exactly been much conservative legislation lately and then you can nitpick everything I say. It's why discussion with you has been pointless for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Now you try to go again to liberal programs because there really aren't any positive alternatives. If the magic powers of conservatism were really so much better it should be easy to lay out.
Repubs had the house till 2007, but they only had the Senate till 2003. So.. no. He didn't have a super majority that could do anything he wanted. Unlike some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Of course.. YOU are claiming that the "intellectual" powers of the Liberals ARE so much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
BTW.. how is the EU doing these days? How's Greece?
Face it, Liberal progressive ideas suck just as badly as uber conservative ones. It's the more middle ground that works. That being said.. what was it the Dems said recently.... getting fired/laid off from your job is a "good thing" because now your heathcare isn't tied to your job (if you get it from work, yes it is, the ACA version will SUCK) so you can be a "free agent" and do what you want.
Funny.. I never knew getting fired/laid off was a good thing. And to think, all those people that thought not having a paycheck was bad. Thanks Reid!
You must love Obama then. The guy's a centrist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
You need to calm down and take a deep breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
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I am? I'm simply asking for you to support you being a better alternative. You can't. If you like centrists you must love Obama, because he does a pretty poor job of being far left in anybody's minds other than Republicans like yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
A number of the primary economic powers in the EU would be most certainly classified as conservative (Germany for example) so your lame attempt at a dig isn't very effective.
Isn't Germany one of the places that is doing well over there though? Which would just further support his argument or lack there of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I asked for examples because you were posting your usual liberal nonsense that isn't based upon facts, but it's based upon your feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I knew you couldn't/wouldn't post an actual answer... because you looked at what you pulled out of your ass and found nothing there except some of your usual bullshit.
Look at East Germany vs. West Germany circa pre-1990 for a difference of political philosophies and their impact on their respective country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Ya those East Germans were stupid liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Stupid socialists.. but yes, I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Alright, now we're getting somewhere. Now, are those East Germans in a socialist system today?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And once again you've failed to show that you have anything but feelings. These "facts" don't exist. You can't come up with a single positive alternative, just bile, which seems to be your main "feeling."Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The rest of us also understand the difference between Communism and socialism. You're in those feelings though. I understand you can't tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The point was that blanket generalizations are silly. Germany is indeed doing well but they also were one of the reasons that Greece and Ireland (though not Spain) got onto shaky ground in the first place. The "Europeans are all socialists!" meme, just like the "welfare queen" meme that y'all like isn't quite so simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
I'm more into the "corporate welfare queen" meme myself.
Wait, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
YOU were the one making the accusation. I simply asked you for a couple of examples. YOU couldn't think of anything, so you whined that even if you did, I would pick on you about your examples so that's why you didn't.
It was a simple task that I asked of you... support your claim. You couldn't.
It's time to take responsibility for your own actions... or in this case inactions.
I wouldn't exactly consider West Germany conservative either.. but there were 2 distinct political/economic philosophies at work in East/West Germany. One was capitalism.. and one was communism. One succeeded and one failed.Quote:
The rest of us also understand the difference between Communism and socialism. You're in those feelings though. I understand you can't tell the difference.
Whatever point you and Jarvan are trying to make about the past and present perils of European style government is retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
This game you're playing about "I just asked a question" isn't fooling anyone either. No one here thinks you actually give a shit about having any type of healthy discussion which is why Warriorbird isn't taking your troll bait. He already told you that too.
It was a clear cut example of what economic system works and what doesn't. Same time, same country.. each half used a different system. One succeeded, one failed miserably.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
It's not that complicated.
Trolling? I am responding to a point he was attempting to make... that liberals are the party of positive results and the GOP has none. I called him out for giving us a couple of examples. He couldn't.Quote:
This game you're playing about "I just asked a question" isn't fooling anyone either. No one here thinks you actually give a shit about having any type of healthy discussion which is why Warriorbird isn't taking your troll bait. He already told you that too.
No one is surprised that you are confused by this simple progression in conversation.
And what does this have to do with the discussion or specifically Jarvan's contention that Europe sucks countered by a few other people who said that Germany's doing well? From that convo. you bring up E v. W Germany circa pre 1990. Are you just reminding us all that Soviet Style government wasn't any good? If so, thank you for that, but we know already. Are you comparing Obama's administration to the former E. Germany? Are you recommending that we follow Germany's example? I support that too. Socialized medicine, strong worker rights, higher taxes and state funded higher education. It sounds like a good plan but I don't see the U.S. right getting behind it too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Ya trolling. He made a point about the do-nothing GOP when he said that nothing they've proposed works and they just seem to be against everything. Instead of addressing his concerns in a mature way you challenged him to tell you what the Dems are doing. Be a man and address his point. He's not alone in thinking this way and it's going to come up in the next two election cycles. Latrin also said that whatever Obama did to get us out of the recession was a good thing. Obviously that was tongue in cheek but you completely ignored it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Now you're playing the victim card saying that he's not answering your questions. You've got some balls to act like a victim here. Warriorbird and Latrin both deserve some cogent response to their points. Maybe then we'll get to answering your troll posts.
It's like we speak two different languages...Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Follow the thread. Start off with WB's post about how the GOP has no positive solutions at all. Someone then mentioned Europe failures, then how Germany was doing well. Germany is an example (prior to unification in 1990) of a country being split in 2 and one using capitalism and one using communism and how utterly different the economic results were.
That was all. Don't hurt your brain trying to think it's something else.
lolwut?Quote:
Ya trolling. He made a point about the do-nothing GOP when he said that nothing they've proposed works and they just seem to be against everything. Instead of addressing his concerns in a mature way you challenged him to tell you what the Dems are doing. Be a man and address his point. He's not alone in thinking this way and it's going to come up in the next two election cycles. Latrin also said that whatever Obama did to get us out of the recession was a good thing. Obviously that was tongue in cheek but you completely ignored it too.
Now you're playing the victim card saying that he's not answering your questions. You've got some balls to act like a victim here. Warriorbird and Latrin both deserve some cogent response to their points. Maybe then we'll get to answering your troll posts.
Here.. let me copy/paste the two posts in questions. No one is trolling anyone else.. except maybe you... but I honestly do not think you are trolling, but rather too stupid to understand the simple progression of a conversation.
To which I responded with this post:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Warriorbird
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
If there isn't a single GOP proposed solution that would/have worked, then it should be a relatively simple task to put down some examples. I'm not playing the victim card at all.. I simply asked a question and so far, WB can't/won't answer it.
But.. in your warped reality, I'm the guy who somehow owes an answer to this thread.
Too funny.
Do you think Greece was run by a liberal party before its economic collapse? As for the EU as a whole, it's true that they suffered a double dip recession where we did not. If Obama is a socialist, it follows that the EU's problem was not being liberal enough, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
It is true that East Germany did not have the GDP per capita of West Germany in 1990, but do you have data for the other 50 years? This is an honest question, I can't find any online. I would guess that the picture looks different if we pick a date when the West was in recession.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Ya, it's like I said. Warriorbird brought up some concerns about the GOP. You failed to address that, in fact you ignored it with this tit for tat bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
WB: the GOP has no positive solutions and is solely focused on Opposition.
PB: Oh ya, what's the left do? Answer the question, you're avoiding it.
Is that the extent of your ability to discuss complex issues? Maybe that's your comfort zone and an actual discussion is a secondary goal which lags far behind your number one goal of just calling people names without actually bringing a thing to the conversation.
At least try. Try to talk like a reasonable person. Express ideas of your own. Come up with new perspectives. The sum of your PC time is spent either in personal attacks or repeating GOP talking points. You say you're smart, you say you're this successful business guy; then contribute. Don't just be a knee-jerkoff reactionary.
I'll admit I've heard of those videos, but I don't get the attraction. It seems like it would be dry and significantly asymmetrical.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
WB: The GOP has no positive solutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
PB: Can you give me some examples of where liberal ideas are working properly and the conservative alternatives offer no positive solutions?
cwolff: OMG U R TROLLING POOR WB! LEAVE HIM ALONE! HE DOESN"T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT, WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER THAT! YOU JERKOFF MEANIE POOPIE HEAD!!
WB was making a statement.. I simply asked him to give me some examples.Quote:
Is that the extent of your ability to discuss complex issues? Maybe that's your comfort zone and an actual discussion is a secondary goal which lags far behind your number one goal of just calling people names without actually bringing a thing to the conversation.
At least try. Try to talk like a reasonable person. Express ideas of your own. Come up with new perspectives. The sum of your PC time is spent either in personal attacks or repeating GOP talking points. You say you're smart, you say you're this successful business guy; then contribute. Don't just be a knee-jerkoff reactionary.
I don't know why you are getting so upset. I wasn't expecting him to step up and back up his claims with a couple of examples anymore than I would expect you to post in an intelligent fashion.
But seriously Backlash 2.0... carry on with your stupidity. It's almost entertaining.
Man, I've been looking into this more and it's really fascinating. Obviously we have to know where each Germany started before we can declare any level of success, and the starts of each Germany are pretty murky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
West
We loaned them $1.5b (1950) in the Marshall Plan, but then we forgave at least half of that debt as well as half of the reparations from WWI. They also didn't pay anything to the East until the 70s.
East
The USSR politely asked Poland and other Eastern Bloc states to waive some % of reparations due to them from East Germany, then politely asked East Germany to give it all to them instead to the tune of $10b (1950).
Additionally, it's not at all clear how natural resources were divided between the two. For instance, in 1970 West Germany went 9/49/43 in agriculture/industry/services and East Germany went 13/49/38. There has also been a very strong tendency since reunification to reunify the historical stats of the states. Consider this page as one of very very many that cheerfully lists a single Germany for 1970. There's a lot of context and misinformation going on, is my point.
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But we can still find the figures: from this source we see that in 1950 West Germany had (213,942 / 49,983) / (51,412 / 18,388) = 53.1% higher GDP per capita, 70.8% higher in 1973, and 266.4% higher in 1990. Obviously, the narrative of capitalism vs. socialism makes no sense. Why would capitalism work from 1973-1990 and not from 1950-1973? Well, it turns out that West Germany suffered a severe recession in the late 60s, and in response a new Minister of Economics was appointed(?). What sort of economist was he?
"Schiller followed a different concept from Erhard's. He was one of the rare German Keynesians, and he brought to his new tasks the unshakable conviction that government had both the obligation and the capacity to shape economic trends and to smooth out and even eliminate the business cycle."
"The SPD-FDP coalition expanded the West German social security system, substantially increasing the size and cost of the social budget. Social program costs grew by over 10 percent a year during much of the 1970s, introducing into the budget an unalterable obligation that reduced fiscal flexibility (although Schiller and other Keynesians believed that it would have an anticyclical effect)."
It's important to note that in the short term these plans were wildly unsuccessful and castigated, and everyone involved was voted out of office... and yet from 1973-1990 West Germany dominated East Germany's growth. Okay, what was going on in East Germany around that time? Well, they avoided the 60s recession entirely while using the New Economic System, a mild decentralization and capitalization of the economy. Worked great! Then in 1971 the decision-makers naturally decided to return to a fully socialist economy, and that was that.
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The moral of the story, as always, is that capitalism vs. socialism is a false (and rather inane) dichotomy. The most successful economies of the past century have been mixed: West Germany, Japan, China, the United States.
West Germany wins, they can work at 101% as opposed to a puny 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
True. It also proves the axiom that the only difference between pink and purple is the grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
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Originally Posted by cwolff
Don't worry. He's just not capable any more. The Emperor has no clothes. He really has no better alternatives. All he can do is try to pass the buck, throw out insults, or source arguments from elsewhere and not back them up.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Passing the buck now means to ask you for examples to illustrate the hyperbolic bullshit you spew now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Good to know.
It means you're simply unable to list any positive alternatives and you've been trying to avoid it ad nauseum. If your mysterious fact based philosophy is so fact based you should be able to do it easily. I don't think there's anything hyperbolic about the notion of you being able to demonstrate why you're superior and why people should have your support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You just have nothing left so you can't even identify any actual legislation. It's all based on opposition, just like you.
"But but list the Democratic programs!" I'm better at listing your proposals than you are. That's pathetic.
YOU were the one that made the claim the GOP offers "NO POSITIVE ALTERNATIVES". No one else made such a retarded claim. Just you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I simply asked you to back that claim up.
You couldn't. I knew you couldn't.
Hyperbolic bullshit is the instrument of the intellectually bankrupt. It's all you have left.
It's all you ever have.
I just joined the conversation. Are you referring to obummer? If so, I agree, but you really think he was capable at some point? Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
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Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Yes, he is describing Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
I already did. You didn't even read it. I asked you for positive alternatives. You're a Republican and you can't even give any which was the entire point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
A prime illustration of the http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/thanks-obama which is just as silly as Blame Bush was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
That's who I thought he was referring to also when I read that post. I thought I had entered Bizarro world for a minute there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Well Jarvan's sisters are welfare queens so it is kind of Bizarro world lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Excellent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...ef=mostpopularQuote:
Days after Senate Republicans unanimously blocked a vote on the Paycheck Fairness Act, Phyllis Schlafly, founder of "pro-family" organization Eagle Forum, claimed that providing women with equal pay for equal work would deter their chances of finding a “suitable mate” in a Christian Post op-ed published Tuesday.
Since a woman prefers to marry a man who makes more money than she does, Schlafly argued, decreasing the gender pay gap would leave women unable to secure a husband.
Schlafly, a longtime opponent of the Equal Rights Amendment, wrote:
Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does. Men don't have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.
While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap.
Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate.
Cool commericial, stupid message. Especially for a guy from a state that account for 46% of it's budget to come from the Federal Government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dOoXJI4vBnsQuote:
Montana currently receives approximately $1.77 in federal money for every one dollar that it pays into the government. This number has grown larger in past decades. In 2001, it received $1.61 for each dollar sent to Washington, and in 1981 it received $1.06. Some have referred to states like Montana that receive so much more in federal dollars as “welfare states.”
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LOL @ taking out a strike drone with a rifle. Good luck with that, buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Rut Ro. He said out loud what he thinks. Guess he didn't get the word about kinder gentler -isms.
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Missouri Mayor "Kind of Agrees" With Alleged Kansas Shooter About Jews
"He was always nice and friendly and respectful of elder people, you know, he respected his elders greatly," Dan Clevenger told KSPR, laughing. "As long as they were the same color as him. [He was] very fair and honest and never had a bit of problems out of him."
Clevenger later added that he "kind of agreed with [Miller] on somethings but I don't like to express that too much."
What kind of things do the two agree about, you ask? Clevenger elaborated to KSPR.
"There some things that are going on in this country that are destroying us. We've got a false economy and it's, some of those corporations are run by Jews because the names are there," he said. "The fact that the Federal Reserve prints up phony money and freely hands it out, I think that's completely wrong. The people that run the Federal Reserve, they're Jewish."
Oh.
This is not the first time Clevenger has publicly supported Miller's anti-semitism. KSPR unearthed a letter he sent nearly ten years ago to the Aurora Advertiser, in which the mayor endorsed Miller.
http://gawker.com/missouri-mayor-kin...sho-1563872386
That *is* a dumb thing to say... much less believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I know I know! It's not fair to lump this guy in with the conservatives but this seemed like an appropriate thread. I can't stop chuckling over the image a sad Klan leader lamenting the setback from some crazy neo-nazi.
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The carnage was devastating to many. Imperial Wizard Frank Ancona was upset, too.
"What this guy just did set back everything I've been trying to do for years," said Ancona, who leads the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
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"I believe in racial separation but it doesn't have to be violent," he told CNN. "People in the Klan are professional people, business people, working types. We are a legitimate organization."
One Klan leaders response to murders in Kansas
If he's not a Republican or Conservative, why does this seem like an appropriate thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Dumbass.
No need for name calling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Jeril is pretty much the most civil person on the PC. Strange times...
The truth is, the KKK are conservatives. I know you don't want to claim them in your set, but they hold to substantially the same values as the conservative movement they are just farther to the right than even the Tea-Party. If you want you can post some stuff about ELF or other liberal extremists to show that both sides have kooks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Check out their websites. I'll post some samples below so you can see what I mean.
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That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers.
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We stand for freedom of speech, law and Order. We are here to protect our family,race and nation. To exemplify a pure patriotism towards our glorious country. We are always looking for good WHITE PEOPLE to join the Fight. Our Government for the past few years have been working hard to bring in the New World Order. They have already took God out of our schools. They have already passed Hate Crime Bills to silence the word of God on Gay marriages.These bills keep preachers from talking about Homosexuals in the churches.The Government is allowing all these illegal immigrants into our nation.
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You must swear to uphold the Declaration of Independence and Constitution of America 11. You must pledge loyalty to the United States of America and legally help keep our government from foreign or alien intrusions
This page follows up the rules with a petition to impeach Obama.
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The very culture of America is being changed and most of us believe that it is by design. Christianity is constantly being attacked, family values are all but gone, homosexual unions are accepted, the youth respect no one, police and federal officers are gunned down in the streets regularly and the drug lords are running rampant. Child abuse, murder of children, rape and other violent crimes fill our streets and are even brought into our homes, yet, the liberals cry to take guns away from legal citizens and get huge amounts of support from our noble politicians.
If there is not a plot by the elite in Washington to undermine our society and bring this country to its knees, there should be as they are doing an excellent job of it. They are openly wanting to grant amnesty to those here illegally while we, the taxpayers, foot the bill, do with less ourselves, and help those very ones who are breaking the back of the working man here.
Sounds good. Did'ja know the Westboro Baptist Church was started by a Democrat?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Major donor to Al Gore's Dad. They do also believe Obama is the Antichrist though, which gives them a lot of common ground with the most intelligent members of your party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I don't know any of them but I'd assume that gay marriage would have really challenged their Democrat credentials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Last time they supported a non Phelps candidate was Al Jr. in 1988. Fred Phelps last ran as a Democrat in 1998.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Maybe he's a southern dem holdout who didn't get the news that they were supposed to flip parties in 1964.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Nah. They actually have a rather extensive pro civil rights record for black people. It used to be a way they could stir up Southerners. They only got really into hating gay people and the military later on. They actually got permission from Saddam Hussein to preach against America and Hillary Clinton during the Clinton Administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Special people all right.
I wonder where they would measure up on the political spectrum. It almost sounds like they would be centrists! HAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
They're terrifying and baffling folks. I've stood on the opposite side of a picket from them. The best way to deal with them was to ignore them (they thrive on slapping lawsuits on people) and have a louder message.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
This site of theirs is pretty funny...
http://www.godhatestheworld.com/
Click any country to find out why God hates that country, and why this world is doomed.
Awesome! That's like The World's Most Dangerous Places: Christian Edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Nothing comes up for the Marshall Islands. I guess they're being spared God's wrath, or he's still thinking about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
It's surprisingly comprehensive. They have a write-up of every country, a bio of at least one person they especially hate from every country... it goes on and on. It's a pretty slick website too; futuristic clicky slidy noises and everything. These folks fund themselves by suing people?
"God Hates Kiribati. Although homosexuality is still criminalized in this small group of islands, they are on a fast track to becoming just like every other nation in this evil world. Just over half of their population claims to be Roman Catholic; a clear sign of how evil this country is. When God starts destroying this world, this small country will be eating the same babies and children that they leave in the care Catholic priests, infamous worldwide for pedophilia and rape! See Jeremiah 19."
Hell, I've never even heard of Kiribati, let alone know that they'll be eating babies soon.
It's one of the ways. They're pretty much all lawyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
So weird. A cult of homophobic lawyers. I mean, you can't make this shit up. Humans, I tell ya...Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Wait, this is actually a website from Westboro? I thought they were just making fun of Westboro what with all of those photoshops of their own people picketing but with a backdrop of the country in question.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Also this one about Cuba led me to believe it was a joke website:
Cuba hates the United States of Doomed america and her hypocritical rhetoric about human rights and democracy, demonstrating that they cannot be all bad :).
Yeah, it's one of their "sister sites" listed on the main homepage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Yeah I thought it was fake at first, too, like Landover Baptist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Maybe they're deep cover?Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
I'm just shaking my head in amazement... Lots of effort went into all these sites. Crazy...
http://www.signmovies.com/
Click on the "music video" tab, watch it... totally wild.
That's really catchy actually. I must say, I'm impressed with the quality of their presentation. These guys have been working on their marketing.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
OUR FEET ARE TOTALLY SHOD!
HA! Did you watch "You're so Vain?" How can copy these URL's? We have like 15 threads here that could benefit from this.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Are these all copyright violations?
Good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I think my favorite sign so far is:
Attachment 6405
GOD HATES YOUR FEELINGS!
I think I need to have some fun with these people.
http://thompsonhall.com/cease-desist...rms/#copyright
edit nahhh, just trolls, they love attention. The whole thing is crazy though. The fact that this kind of thing goes on in 2014 blows my mind. It's sad.
It would be like trying to place Mel Gibson on the spectrum based on Jerry Fletcher. Just because he played a delusional maniac who issues bizarre religious screeds doesn't mean he, um... okay bad example, but you know what I mean!Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
We are living in the most free and enlightened time in human history and this guy says this? He's a fear monger for his bank account. He is selling fear for gun manufacturer's kick backs. Fraud, sham, deliberate community agitator for profit, problem, evil.
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Freedom has never needed our defense more than now. Almost everywhere you look, something has gone wrong. You feel it in your heart, you know it in your gut. Something has gone wrong. The core values we believe in, the things we care about most, are changing. Eroding. Our right to speak. Our right to gather. Our right to privacy. The freedom to work, and practice our religion, and raise and protect our families the way we see fit. Those aren't old values. They aren't new values. They are core freedoms, the core values that have always defined us as a nation. And we feel them -- we feel them -- slipping away. - Wayne LaPierre Executive Vice President and CEO of the NRA
I consider myself a conservative on most issues. But I am not what I will call an extreme conservative. I would like to join the NRA, I really would. But when I hear the NRA screaming against background checks and the CEO of the NRA making paranoid statements, it reaffirms my belief that I do not belong in the NRA's ranks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
The most free, huh? You live under a rock or something? Or are you just being obtuse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Conservative Christian radio host Steve Deace.
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“There are four pillars of the leftist, statist, Marxist movement in America: the child-killing industry, the homosexual lobby, government education – that’s sort of their youth ministry, that’s how they get the next generation to indoctrinate them. The homosexual lobby and the abortion industry is where they get their mega, mega hundreds of millions to fund their schemes, ” Deace explained. “But the worker bees, the grassroots, the mobocracy, the ‘Hail Satan’ chanters down in Texas last year, that’s the government-sector employee unions. And if you cut them off, that’s like cutting off the recruiting ability of a college football team. That’s the lifeblood of their program is those government-sector employee unions.”
Says the guy enjoying everyone else's tax dollars posting on the internet on a voluntarily crowd-sourced message board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has a hyper-inflated sense of his importance and a distorted sense of who wants him out of office.
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“I’m the only Republican running this year that every crazy liberal in the country’s heard of,” he said. “They’ll be sending their money -- they already are -- to my opponent. She’ll be arguing to all of you that she’d be a new face. And I agree, she would be a new face. But think about it this way: a new face for what? A new face for no change. A new face for the same majority, the same Senate, the same support for Barack Obama. A new face for the status quo.”
I'm looking forward to a couple of these races. It'll be cool to see people like Boehner and McConnell get back into the ring for some bareknuckles political fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
That quote of his stunned me to read it originally. What is he really saying there? If you vote for my opponent, you are putting a new face on the status quo, a new face on the no change, a new face on the same majority... compared to his old face and track record of status quo, no change, same majority?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
That's a hell of a way to ask someone to vote for you.
You make a good point. What concerns me is the "if you aren't with us you are a "crazy liberal"" attitude. Isn't it extremist to say that anyone against you is an extremist? He is literally labeling anyone who votes against him, or contributes money to his opponent's campaign, a "crazy liberal". Normal and rational people do not like being labeled as "crazy".Quote:
Originally Posted by Velfi
Hey, look over there! Relax, guy! You need a rest!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
When they don't even say anything and just post links directly from an aggregator.
Everyone is crazy! Normal rational people don't exist you are just fooling yourself. And how is putting a negative label on those who'd vote against you any different then what liberals do in vilifying those who'd vote against them? The guy did go over the top though and he wasn't as subtle as he could have been which is certainly a mistake in the political world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Except his isn't the majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Velfi
Please to be reading the words that came out of his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Rush Limbaugh...
Oh, it was all a joke? You can say anything you want and it's all just a joke? Is PB a handle for Rush Limbaugh?Quote:
CNN's Don Lemon recently called Rush Limbaugh a "stunt king" for saying that LA Clippers owner Donald Sterling was in so much trouble because he hadn't donated enough money to President Obama.
In response, Limbaugh randomly brought up the fact that Lemon is gay.
"Well, over at CNN, they interpreted that to mean that I was defending Sterling!" hesaid on Tuesday. "How did they get there? I don't know how they get there. Erin Burnett played the sound bite and then went to Mr. Black Hole himself, Don Lemon—who sleeps with men, proudly—for comment."
He went on to say that he had been joking about the Obama stuff.
When have I ever said something serious and then later on claimed it was a joke? Post a link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
That sounds like something you have done in the past... do you need me to remind you about that?
Too true. Maybe they're cousins. At least Rush comes out and makes statements. PB's way too big a pussy for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You are still pissed you got played like the idiot you are, aren't you kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
If it's any consolation.. you certainly beat all other quotes in the "Dumb Things Liberals Say" thread. By a long shot.
Fuck, even Backlash was smart enough not to take the hook... that right there should tell you something.
I'm not pissed. You always do that. That's why back said you're just like Limbaugh. You're just a troll and we've come to expect this from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by cwolff
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I'm deeply shocked that he replied with an image.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
First Limbaugh says Sterling is in trouble because he didn't donate enough to Obama. Then when someone calls him on it he brings up something about that person thats completely unrelated to anything.
Sound familiar? Stay classy.
I'm deeply shocked you didn't beat cwolff to the hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I knew the quote even apart from my time spent awash in conservative media. Don't think you're original or anything. Unlike most of the herp derp conservative nation I think Hillary was a much better Secretary of State than Kerry will ever be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Sure you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Hindsite is 20/20.. and you are the master of "I knew it" after the fact.
And while I agree that Hillary was a better SoS than Kerry.. what exactly did Hillary accomplish while she was SoS?
You're missing the greater point which is that no one gives a shit about what you're trying to say. WW asked you politely many times to just tell us what you mean. I've done the same. You're a kid playing hide and go seek by himself while the adults continue with their conversation then you pop out and say "AHHA! You didn't find me. I win." You seem well pleased with yourself, playing this solo game online, which is even more mental.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
http://likegif.com/wp-content/upload...ad-gif-151.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Are you of all people really complaining about asking someone else something and not getting an answer? You're not that oblivious to yourself, are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Lol so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I answer. Often in great detail. I also make statements about my positions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You're probably thinking of times when I ignore you because you're question is posed incorrectly. Like the other day when you asked something along the lines of; What's worse, doing something bad or not doing anything at all? I even responded and told you what was wrong with your wording. That may be the post where I said you were intellectually lazy. That question is type of false dilemma fallacy and although I may teach you to ask better questions, I have no responsibility to engage in shitty mental processes just because you are.
Because the fact that you do it constantly with anyone you're in disagreement with is irrelevant and all...Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
http://www.theopulentpet.com/images/laughing_dog.jpgQuote:
and although I may teach you...
It might be relevant if that happened but it doesn't. In the future I'll make certain to respond to you even if it's just to point out how you're phrasing is incorrect and I'll try to demonstrate a more correct way to articulate your position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
In the future I'll post a picture of Bob Barker when I see you tap dancing around and dodging peoples' questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
What you're failing to realize here is that I'm not really even referring to questions I've asked you. I'm referring to your postings in general, regardless of who was asking. Unless it's someone you agree with.
I realize that you're referring in generalities. That's called a faulty generalization. I responded with a specific example between you and I when you thought I was ignoring you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I mostly answer people I disagree with. That should be obvious.
Check this out. Conservative voice of reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Yet, we find conservatives trapped in a cycle of abusive relationships. It’s almost like a trap. It usually goes like this: Government or the media oversteps its bounds, conservatives embrace the un-vetted victim, who — once feted and promoted on cable TV and talk radio (this is good business for conservative media, allowing them to pander to their viewers and listeners, and drive their political agenda) — says or does something utterly stupid. Then, MSNBC (and other liberal outlets) then spend weeks covering the boomerang part of the story.
… And then we repeat the cycle a few months later. What almost always starts out as a boon for conservatives leaves them with egg on their face.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/25/wh...#ixzz30NzcORTi
So it is your attestation that Rachel Maddow is the mouthpiece of liberals?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
She is a liberal, and she has a mouth which is made up of many pieces. She uses those mouthpieces to talk a lot but that does not mean she speaks for everyone. The guy I posted above is just a conservative, with a mouth (keyboard in this case) and he's speaking reasonably. I appreciate that you may or may not agree with him. I do, but I'm not a conservative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
And people give me grief for being obsessive???Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Just wanted to let him down gently and you do a good of that with humor (so I copied your style). It's why you have a chance at getting elected on the universal surveillance platform. People will say "He's going to put a camera in every room of your house!" then you can say something like "there you go again" and the folks will laugh, stock in ADT will rise and before long we'll all be wondering why videos of us taking a dump keep showing up on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Converting is the least of their worries.Quote:
Washington (CNN) – Sen. Susan Collins told CNN in an interview that she wants the U.S. military to help rescue more than 200 schoolgirls kidnapped in Nigeria.
“They’re being sold into slavery, forced into marriages, required to convert. This is just horrible,” she said.
Maybe, but I agree with her we should help.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
What exactly did she say that was stupid? The US shouldn't help these girls? Slavery isn't bad? Use your words, cwolff, use them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I'm ok with helping Nigeria. Even advise them on a raid. We do stuff like that all the time and it's a great way to build connections and influence another country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
And it's the right thing to do. If the country doesn't have the resources (to include military with exceptional training and talent) we should help them. The caveat being the mission should be voluntary.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Wait.. don't you believe in freedom of religion? Shouldn't you be just as against the convert part as anything else?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Or would this be ok if it was say.. Hillary saying it?
Oh Shit that's a good one! I'm LOL'ing right now. You even got it in the right thread. Good on you Jarvan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Have you ever noticed that this is the type of response you give when you don't want to answer the question that was asked?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
What'd I tell you about Dbag questions? Am I going to have to cross post?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I think cwolff has me on ignore, I'm sad :(
It's cause I'm black, isn't it?
More because you aren't black, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Thanks for proving my point, racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
05-06-2014 09:43 PM
Thread: Dumb things conservatives say:
You're the second most racist person on the PC. You're also a strange little closet homosexual
Explain why I am...
A) Only the 2nd most racist person
B) Who am I racist against and what draws you to that conclusion
C) Who the 1st most racist person is
D) Why you hate faggots
If this goes unanswered, I'll have no choice but to assume that this rep was given by cwolff.
You can assume all you want. You'll be wrong, of course, but you're used to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
If you are ignored, I sure as fuck better be. No way the likes of you and Tisket are better than I am!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION THEREFORE IT IS AN ADMISSION OF GUILT!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO THE CYBER POLICE AND CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN BECAUSE I BACK TRACED IT!!!!!!1Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I think this is real and it's awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQlPcwiruaY
Yeah, it's only on the left that every lay person is a scientist. Duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
It is only politics that tries to denounce science. Well, that and bible thumpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
The left isn't dominated by retard hillbillies (like you) who pretend to know more about science than 99% of scientists. Generally speaking, folks on the left are happy to let scientists do the science. Why is this? The answer is pretty simple. Folks on the left don't let profit (dollar signs!) and religious texts dictate their views. Conservative hillbillies like you think ancient texts and money in your pocket trump science. Want to see a picture of your father? Here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045...07/Redneck.gif
I like how you think Boehner is a conservative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
He isn't? He is not the leader of the conservative movement?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Are you calling him a "gasp" liberal?
Of course he isn't a conservative. He's a Republican. You're a conservative. If Boehner was a conservative, he'd look like you:Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
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Lies. We all know how Methais looks like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
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Oh, you mean like all the liberal mouthpieces that are so vehemently against GMOs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I wouldn't go so far as to call him a liberal, but he's ineffective, whatever he is...just like most of our politicians these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
This is what happens when Cwolff's "grey areas" get out of hand...we come to where we are now. No clear lines are drawn, the right is just as bad as the left.
I'm not sure that a bunch of stupid actors are "liberal mouthpieces" except in the whole conservatives being jealous that all actors aren't conservatives way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
These people have money. They have fame. Those two things together can influence idiotic youths more than any scientific study produced by any reputable Academic source, and you know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I'm all about parody, I wouldn't mind at all if "actors" were evenly split between conservative and liberal...that's just not the case. Hollywood is overwhelmingly liberal (probably because none of them ever had to actually work for anything...I cite Tom Cruise and others comparing a movie shoot to active duty in a warzone), and the PSA's and other media that comes out of Hollywood is unfairly biased...
Wait...it's unfair! Even the playing field! We're all supposed to be equal, right? Why do Libs in Hollywood get more air time than Conservs?
edit: Freudian slip...parody=parity.
Most conservatives just aren't as entertaining. When you're focused on yourself it's tougher for others to empathize with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Yes, because only libs care about others, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
This goes back to Benjamin Franklin times..."the worst thing you can do to a man is make him comfortable in his own poverty"...
This is the shit I'm trying to get away from. Both sides pull on emotions...oh, libs just want to give everyone a hand-out, fuck the people who work for it...conservs just want to screw over the little guy on the way to bigger profits...
Neither of these are the reality. Why can't we throw away the talking points and have a legitimate discussion? Just once? Please?
It isn't a talking point. People find Ben Stein funny, sometimes even compelling. He doesn't convince people that President Nixon is a nice guy because they can't empathize with him in the same way as somebody who they think is reaching out to help people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
You're not going to see a representative sample in Hollywood until conservatives tone down the "fuck everybody but me" rhetoric. There's a reason people like Reagan and Wayne and Eastwood sold tickets and a lot more modern conservatives don't.
Reinforcing what I already knew...hope is a bastard. Carry on, clueless one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Keep perpetuating the system.
You are aware that you're conversing with warriorbird, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Perpetuating what? Why do you think that modern conservatives aren't as successful with people?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Do you seriously think Atlas Shrugged part 1 and 2 were attractive to the average person?
You're so bipartisan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
<---hopeless optimist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrathbringer
Hell, I'm a Libertarian.
Of course you are and you're upset that there's more liberals than conservatives in Hollywood and you don't want to hear anything that isn't "evil liberal conspiracy" and then you act like I'm somehow reflecting some talking points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
No, but they should have been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Face it man, propaganda wins wars. The truth behind it rarely matters.
They're a monument to selfishness. You seem incapable of understanding that isn't appealing to people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Sounds like he understands it perfectly, the whole point of propaganda is to appeal to the people. And most people rarely like to hear the truth at first, it tends to take a while to sink in and be appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I hardly think Ayn Rand is "the truth." On the general philosophical musing level you're probably right though. Conservatives can do much better with a channel of non stop "liberals bad!" than a movie. Most liberals have a shorter attention span for political themes, thus the crap that is MSNBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
It doesn't mean bemoaning the lack of conservative Hollywood stars is effective though. They've certainly been there, like the examples I listed plus people like Schwarzenegger. Conservatism is just darker and less pleasant these days. Under Reagan it was about inclusiveness and bringing hope to everyone, thus still allowing Hollywood success. Nowadays people are regularly drummed out of the Republican Party for lack of ideological purity, Communism style.
Before he shifted to making movies to take vacations I think Adam Sandler represented more of that past ideal.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
This is more what I was leaning towards, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
It is fairly stupid of them to be alienating so many people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Just...wow to all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I wasn't "bemoaning a lack of conservative Hollywood stars"...I was simply stating that the majority of Hollywood stars are idiot libs...not intelligent libs, which do exist...you can't honestly deny the effective use of propaganda in influencing our youthful voter base. Be real, man...how dumb were you when you were 18? Not saying EVERYONE is likely to follow what some idiot on TV says, but...the proof is in the pudding, so to speak. We can go back to ancient Rome and find evidence of the Plebs making poor decisions based on propaganda, one way or the other. It just so happens that self-described Liberals in Hollywood make up the vast majority of "People using their stardom to influence voting".
Conservatism, on a Federal level, is perhaps "darker and less pleasant"...because it requires personal responsibility. The Plebs don't want to be bothered with such things...they wanted to be handed their comfort.
Some things no Liberal has ever been able to answer...maybe you can?
1) If you taxed everyone in America 100%, no loopholes, you still couldn't pay off the Debt....
2) Name one poor person who has ever given someone else a job.
That's it. Let's start simple. Those two things, and we'll work from there.
How about this candidate for dumb things conservatives say: "I'm really not stupid. I'm just better informed."
I was simply explaining, without trolling, why I think conservatives aren't doing as well in Hollywood as they were under Reagan. I would love to hear your opinion if you have a different one that isn't "OMG it is a liberal conspiracy which stops conservatives from being successful in Hollywood!" (Which is a conservative talking point.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
For your unrelated rhetorical questions.
1. If you remove corporate taxes, remove capital gains, and calculate personal income taxes wrong maybe you could be right. I'm sure you'd like no capital gains and no corporate taxes.
2. Poor people create jobs every day. I know you don't want the government to employee anybody except policemen, firemen, and soldiers. Guess who helps create those jobs? It isn't just the government though. What is Walmart built on? What is your former job dealing drugs built on?
Like welfare office workers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I'm not totally sure what your questions are, but here goes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
1. Debt is not empirically correlated with American economic success or stability, either in absolute terms or as a fraction of GDP.
2. Ew, poor people? Why would I ever learn their names? I assume you're suggesting that disproportionately taxing the rich leads to less jobs, but this is empirically not the case. Like min wage increases and unemployment, the correlation just isn't there. I don't know why this is, I suppose it could be because poor people actually do give other people jobs.
Do you have any (non-existent) examples to share?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Nah, he's just trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
Like I said, I don't know. To even start empirical investigation we would need Thondalar to quantify what he means by "poor people" and he's not going to, so that ends that. All I know empirically is that disproportionately taxing the rich doesn't lead to less jobs. People who point fingers at what we have today seem to forget just how progressive our tax system used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
As I was reading all this "Liberal Hollywood elite" stuff it occurred to me that there not being as many popular conservatives isn't so much a Hollywood problem as it is a conservative problem. If what passes for conservative these days was more popular then there would be more of a balance.
This would be a great argument if it weren't for a few facts. I'm sorry you hate facts so much :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
47% of Americans identify as Democratic or lean towards Democratic.
41% of Americans identify as Republican or lean towards Republican.
Republicans control the federal House.
Just 6 years ago we had a Republican in the White House.
Just 6 years prior to that Republicans controlled the entire federal government.
There are currently 29 Republican governors (more than half!)
There are currently 27 states where Republicans control the entire state legislature, only 17 states where Democrats control the entire state legislature and 6 states are split.
If anything I have just proven that Hollywood is full of a bunch of bleeding heart liberals who love to pretend they are on the side of the "common man" so they keep spending money to watch their movies.
That does not prove anything. If anything you are perpetuating the silly idea that conservatives problems are not caused by conservatives themselves but caused by vaguely defined entities who are out to get them like "the Hollywood elite", the "gay mafia", "welfare queens", and every other label they decide to tag on someone they want to exclude from their party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Wait, so all of my facts proved nothing yet your simple assertion that there aren't more Republicans in Hollywood because being a Republican just isn't popular these days based on...absolutely nothing at all proves you're right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Well, to start, you need to define "Hollywood elite". If you say, liberals in Hollywood, then yeah, you've got a defined group you won't find conservatives in. But if Gweneth Paltrow eats kale and says "no blood for oil" that does not mean that everyone in the entertainment business is a bleeding heart liberal. It's a label used by conservatives to deflect them from owning up to their own lack of popularity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
There's no reason to bring kale into this, it can't help it if some stupid woman eats it.
Is that similar to how black conservatives get ripped left and right by the Hollywood elite while they tell conservative white people how racist they are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Here's another stupid thing conservatives say:
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No, my head is not currently stuffed up my ass!
Hollywood elite = liberals (Democrats)Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Granted that there are *a few* actors/actresses/producers that are known conservative/Republican ... Hollywood is otherwise overwhelming liberal.
I can assure you that the 'everyday' actors/actresses in Hollywood are liberals too... it is the *culture*
And what I am saying is that if conservatives aren't popular within that culture it is not the culture that is at fault it is the conservative. Just like if corporate America dislikes liberals it's not corporate America's fault, it is that liberals are not appealing to them in the correct way.
Hollywood liberals do things like name their kids Apple and compare being called names on Twitter to being a soldier at war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Let's think about that for a moment.
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Originally Posted by Back
You may be asking too much out of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
In the meantime, Back, would you state that the deep south are rednecks are vote conservative/Republican because liberals views are just not very popular/appealing there?
*Or* could there be other factors at play?
Kale has ways to try and shut that whole thing down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Comparing gays to alcoholics.. oh, Rick Perry...
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...alcoholics.php
Well at least he recognizes that people are born gay, he just seems to think it can be "cured."Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
"Are we going to be the party of limited government or the party of limited tolerance?"
Zing!
Rick Perry put on glasses so he could be smart!Quote:
Originally Posted by RojoDisco
http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...vRickPerry.jpg
A contender, yes. A real contender, not in a zillion years.
The Rick Perry versus Joe Biden race needs to happen. For America. For us all.
Do you want Idiocracy to happen? Because that is how it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Does that mean we get a spanking?Quote:
Originally Posted by RojoDisco
Jeril is daydreaming again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y8ixa8HZLc
That would make me almost as sad as a Clinton vs. Bush election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Almost
Hillary and Jeb? How about Chelsea Clinton vs Meghan McCain.
Future Parkbandit will deal with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Be careful with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE711qUrJRk
That one's likely to happen. I also feel like Perry and Biden are probably more honest, to their credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Time to start working on my RP campaign posters!
You mean my Rand Paul is to Ron Paul as Mitt Romney is to George Romney suggestion isn't flying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Science has come a long way since 2012. We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better, stronger, faster
That sounds a bit like "I'll be anything you want me to be." Mitt Romney talk, hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
I think, unfortunately, that it'll be Bush versus Clinton and not like Paul versus Webb, which would be a much better race for America.
Lol, damnit. Best for America, I think, would be Paul vs Sanders. But I'm nuts.