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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Fair enough.

    Let’s go back to what JD Vance said. “If you go back to World War II, if you go back to World War I. If you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation.”

    I’ll continue to make the argument that a ton of negotiation happened between the Allies in order to bring WW2 to a complete conclusion. He said some kind of negotiation. I don’t think that is deserving of ridicule for making that statement.
    We both know you are stretching for this. It’s obvious he meant negotiations with Germany.

    Next, I never once disputed what Vance said. My comments were directly solely at the two, or maybe it was 3 that said the allies negotiated with Germany, which is incorrect, they never did.

    They never did because of WW1

    Once again, the allies discussed it, or as you put it, negotiated more than a year before the conclusion of the war, so negotiations did not end WW2, if they did, it would have finished in 43.

    So Vance stating that WW2 ended with negotiations, is false. There was zero negotiations done at any point leading up to Germany’s surrender.

    On top of that, the negotiations had zero to do with Germany actually surrendering, why? Quite simple, Germany wasn’t involved and had no clue what the allies discussed.

    I mean come on man, Vance misspoke, that it. I never ridiculed him once, people misspeak all the time.

    The allies AND Germany all said the war ended without any form of negotiations, what more do you need? Are you saying the countries that were actually involved in the war are all wrong and Vance is correct? lol?
    Last edited by Solkern; 09-04-2025 at 10:41 AM.

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