Diablo III

[Drew]

http://i.imgur.com/rKPXX.jpg

[Androidpk]

Ironing board.. :lol:

[Gizmo]

When is a good point in the game to start selling blues/rares on the AH?

I'm still like level 15 or 16 and haven't finished act 1. Right now I just salvage the blues and stash the rares.

When does stuff start selling?

At first, it was nice to sell any +Profession Stat Specific, but now even that crap doesn't sell since most people seem to be looking for Res All, DPS etc.

Frankly, I may just A) Trade/Give Away my stuff I find B) Salvage it for materials C) Sell it to vendors if I find gold to be low.

In the case i do find a god like item, then yeah put it on the AH...I'm sure I could get like a million for the armor set piece I just found, or a little under judging by the fluctuating market...But the AH is slow as shit

[Warriorbird]

At first, it was nice to sell any +Profession Stat Specific, but now even that crap doesn't sell since most people seem to be looking for Res All, DPS etc.

Frankly, I may just A) Trade/Give Away my stuff I find B) Salvage it for materials C) Sell it to vendors if I find gold to be low.

In the case i do find a god like item, then yeah put it on the AH...I'm sure I could get like a million for the armor set piece I just found, or a little under judging by the fluctuating market...But the AH is slow as shit

It is slow but you can find some great deals.

[Androidpk]

So this was weird, I posted an item for sale in general chat and soon after I got a message from someone saying don't sell items in general chat immediately followed by *You have been removed from the game* and I got booted back to the login screen..

[SpiffyJr]

Jesus. 50 or so Act I Inferno runs and never get a legendary. My wife comes down, I kill some stupid shitty regular monster and:

http://i.imgur.com/cxLmH.png

[Ashliana]

Found my first legendary item, and it's one for my class. :D Happy.

http://i.imgur.com/pW7dU.jpg (http://imgur.com/pW7dU)

[Drew]

That disintegrate reduction is really nice.

[Androidpk]

Found my first legendary on Act 2 normal, pretty decent 1h spear called Scrimshaw.

No less than 10 minutes into Act 1 on Nightmare and I came across this beauty.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2yuy1cn.jpg

Barely have any magic find but it probably doesn't hurt that I always explore 100% of the maps and click on fucking everything.

[Blazar]

Wow... goo ways through Act 2 hell and have found 0 Legendary items still. Sounds about like my luck though.

No MF but same as Android I explore everything and click everything.

One tip I have is spend the money to buy new gear when you get to hell, otherwise it's painful as fuck. I worked on Act 1 for a couple of hours and probably lost gold in the process. Bought some new gear and am breezing through, and have already made 250k back out of the 450k I spent. Very worthwhile.

[Gizmo]

Wow... goo ways through Act 2 hell and have found 0 Legendary items still. Sounds about like my luck though.

No MF but same as Android I explore everything and click everything.

One tip I have is spend the money to buy new gear when you get to hell, otherwise it's painful as fuck. I worked on Act 1 for a couple of hours and probably lost gold in the process. Bought some new gear and am breezing through, and have already made 250k back out of the 450k I spent. Very worthwhile.

Yeah, I myself haven't bought any gear and managed to make it to Inferno, but now i struggle so I'm constantly farming.

If you aren't stubborn like me, just go to the AH, buy some high DPS weapons and blast thru Hell

[g++]

Yah a high dps does wonders for hell. Ive found 4 legendaries, 2 of them were decent and ill be equipping them on my barb when he hits 60. I think Nekk has found 3....were not trying.

[Some Rogue]

Found 4, crossbow, gloves, bracers and 2h axe.

[Gizmo]

Found 4, crossbow, gloves, bracers and 2h axe.

Found 4 all before Hell I think.

Just found my 5th, a crossbow, in Inferno

[TheEschaton]

fuck you all, my birthday has totally fucked up my leveling.

no worries, I'm home and I've had a few to drink and it's time to run around my hydra screaming obscenities in act iii hell.

[Fallen]

I found some Legendary wizard gloves back in Act 2 of normal. I almost missed them and came across them when walking back through a board to a portal. In other news, just passed the Skeleton King in Act 1 Nightmare. I have around 7k health, 650ish DPS. Seems to be going well but I suspect Act 2 will be quite nasty.

[Androidpk]

I found some Legendary wizard gloves back in Act 2 of normal. I almost missed them and came across them when walking back through a board to a portal. In other news, just passed the Skeleton King in Act 1 Nightmare. I have around 7k health, 650ish DPS. Seems to be going well but I suspect Act 2 will be quite nasty.

I JUST killed nightmare skeleton king. What class are you playing and what's your battlenet ID?

[Warriorbird]

Found a decent +block legendary amulet that I have on my Templar.

[Gizmo]

Found another set item, this is a monk weapon, looks pretty nice...DPS is lower though, I think 515ish

[Asrial]

This is for the IAS discussion.

http://home.sprynet.com/~asrial/temp/Untitled.png

[TheEschaton]

Seems like IAS is in the big number, then.

[Gsgeek]

I feel like im waaaay behind everyone, was taking my time the first time through. Only on act 2 in nightmare mode. Found 1 legendary item , a belt, but its only a lesser middling type item too. Level 17 or so. I think im spending too much time trying out the other classes than focusing on the replay of my barbarian in nightmare.
Anywho, I am enjoying the game still.

[Androidpk]

I feel like im waaaay behind everyone, was taking my time the first time through. Only on act 2 in nightmare mode. Found 1 legendary item , a belt, but its only a lesser middling type item too. Level 17 or so. I think im spending too much time trying out the other classes than focusing on the replay of my barbarian in nightmare.
Anywho, I am enjoying the game still.

Act 1 nightmare here.

[Fallen]

I JUST killed nightmare skeleton king. What class are you playing and what's your battlenet ID?

Sword/Board Barbarian, Battlenet is LordEvarin#1569.

[Sean of the Thread]

I am just now starting act II hell.

Pooho#1896

[Gizmo]

Ok, just found 2 more Lgendaries in the span of maybe 30mins, so I went ahead and posted a Trade Fodder Thread too.

It may be easier to just post what you are looking for, and we can all dig in our stashes to see if we have anything, if I can find some easy way to post a SS of alot of items at once without doing one at a time, I may do that for items i have as well to trade/get rid of

[Gizmo]

Started a Hardcore Barb today, against better judgement heh, but figured I'd at least farm him for a bit first so I know I won't easily die

[Kuyuk]

Just beat it on normal with witch doctor...

act IV went by like zoom, done. Like... 1 exp level?? seems kinda strange to me.

May try nightmare out for a bit, but I doubt I'll go through the whole thing.. I dont see much new spells/cool shit at higher levels for witch doctor?

[Xzean]

Just beat it on normal with witch doctor...

act IV went by like zoom, done. Like... 1 exp level?? seems kinda strange to me.

May try nightmare out for a bit, but I doubt I'll go through the whole thing.. I dont see much new spells/cool shit at higher levels for witch doctor?

Good god how wrong you are. Hell difficulty is where my VD became the most awesome.

[Sean of the Thread]

Good god how wrong you are. Hell difficulty is where my VD became the most awesome.


He's a noob at everything he does with the exception of making some food I believe.

kuyuk = nubbles

[g++]

Good god how wrong you are. Hell difficulty is where my VD became the most awesome.

I have to agree, when you get really high levels of VD the itching and awkward sexual encounters really take an interesting turn.

[Rimalon]

Lost my 53 wizard last night in HC, frozen invulnerable horde pack of spiders in Act 1 Hell.

Got dunked.

I've been surprisingly calm!

All my marbles are with my 52 monk, now! Uh oh.

[Buckwheet]

Act 2 Hell is really poking holes in the high health high DPS wizard of mine. Getting some crazy combos like vortex frozen with the poison pools. Just means you can never keep range.

[Stretch]

Does nephelam valor stack with magic find?

I got fed up with A2 Inferno, so I started farming A4 Hell. Can't figure out if piling on +50% magic find is worth the trade off on DPS...

[TheEschaton]

Yeah, it does stack.

Just finished up hell tonight. Gonna level an alt because I don't really want to farm inferno on my wizard cause his gear is currently crap and I don't have the gold to buy anything because I'm a retard and keep sinking gold into the JC/BS.

[Loyrl]

My ISP dropped me while doing my LAST goblin run in A2 hell the other night, came back dead RIP 58 WD. My barb is in A2 hell and is lvl 57 or 58, new WD is 26 A3 normal, and my DH is 41 A1 or A2 NM.

Saw I was lagging, tried to TP, looked at my modem, saw my Internet Light off. Logged on after a few minutes waiting on my modem, saw my character as a ghost so I shut down Diablo, and went to bed.

[Gizmo]

Does nephelam valor stack with magic find?

I got fed up with A2 Inferno, so I started farming A4 Hell. Can't figure out if piling on +50% magic find is worth the trade off on DPS...

It does. Alot of people though, myself, Spiffy...Hell even Kripparian farm Act 1 Goblin and Quills which I find super easy to do, and yield better stuff than Hell.

Although if you want to Stack NV, then I guess you should farm Act 4 or 3 and do Siegebreaker/Azmodan

[Xzean]

Whats the goblin farm path for act 1?

[Gizmo]

Whats the goblin farm path for act 1?

Add me on Battlenet and join me, I can show ya.

I know of 2 Farming spots in Act 1, 1 in Act 2, 2 in Act 3, and a few in Act 4 typically.

Showed Spiffy the Act 1 stuff the other day, so he'll either do what I do solo, then tell me if he gets a goblin or not etc, or he'll run Butcher...I don't run Butcher since I just couldn't handle it with my FPS/Gear atm.

The run I do, has yielded 2 legendaries, 2 set pieces and of course a bunch of rares/blues and gold. I do the Quills too since they yield somewhat good gold for the ease of killing them.

Gizmo#1268

[Androidpk]

Looking forward to getting to hell and inferno. I'm about halfway through Act 3 on nightmare and I've just been tearing shit up.

My dps fluxuates between 1300 and 3300 depending on buffs and number of enemies and I have 18.3k hp.

[und3ad-minion]

Anyone here doing jewelcrafting? I'm making a radiant amethyst tonight, hopefully.

Zentalin #1545

[Gizmo]

Anyone here doing jewelcrafting? I'm making a radiant amethyst tonight, hopefully.

I'm maxed out in everything, although I don't bother making gems just yet. The highest you find I think is the flawless square gems, which is pretty good.

I wish I didn't waste money before upgrading gems knowing this a while back

[Androidpk]

I wish I didn't waste money before upgrading gems knowing this a while back

Why's that? You'll need it maxed if you want to make the highest grade possible.

[Gizmo]

Why's that? You'll need it maxed if you want to make the highest grade possible.

I meant upgrading gems.

I don't mind upgrading all my artisan stuff, but before I would upgrade gems, then shortly later move on and start finding the upgraded ones as drops.

[Androidpk]

Gotcha. I'm holding off on upgrading my two shops for now with the gem shop at 3 and the forge at 5. It seems to me that it's cheaper to just buy what you need from the AH and not worry about that other stuff until you're 60.

[und3ad-minion]

I'm on my 2nd run through the maze, so to speak. Level 36 Barbarian, almost done Act I. Found a few flawless gems in barrels, it's funny how random the treasure drops can be. No legendary items yet, just a ton of gold coins. (200k+)

I haven't had much time to play, wondering if there's any private chat options.

[Gizmo]

I'm on my 2nd run through the maze, so to speak. Level 36 Barbarian, almost done Act I. Found a few flawless gems in barrels, it's funny how random the treasure drops can be. No legendary items yet, just a ton of gold coins. (200k+)

I haven't had much time to play, wondering if there's any private chat options.

Private chat? Yeah there is whispers../t name works

But yeah, the loot randomization is retardly dumb...I held off crafting any more rare items due to them eventually patching crafting to make it a bit more worthwhile and cheaper.

It's like 80k to craft 1 rare item right now, plus materials. Way too much for being so random

[TheEschaton]

I just passed the 1m gold picked up milestone. Actual gold on me? 20k.

[Gizmo]

I just passed the 1m gold picked up milestone. Actual gold on me? 20k.

haha yeah, isn't that a bitch to get it and be like...Where is my goooold?

[Fallen]

I saw Android blow past me on his hardcore run and laughed. I'm completely paranoid. I want all top tier gems in all slots before I go for the Butcher. I'd also like to hit level 41 for the awesome Warcry rune which gives you +10% health. I maxed out the jeweler and will max out the blacksmith but I don't know if I will actually craft anything. I figure dumping money into upgrades is worthwhile, but like Gizmo said, i'll hold off on the actual making of goods until the thing is properly balanced.

Sounds like Rimalon is the furthest along in his HC run with Act 1 of Hell. I'll keep jugging along at a snail's pace until I die or get bored.

[Stretch]

After three hours, I finally got the damn gibbering gemstone. At least I got my wizard a couple of levels.

[Gizmo]

I saw Android blow past me on his hardcore run and laughed. I'm completely paranoid. I want all top tier gems in all slots before I go for the Butcher. I'd also like to hit level 41 for the awesome Warcry rune which gives you +10% health. I maxed out the jeweler and will max out the blacksmith but I don't know if I will actually craft anything. I figure dumping money into upgrades is worthwhile, but like Gizmo said, i'll hold off on the actual making of goods until the thing is properly balanced.

Sounds like Rimalon is the furthest along in his HC run with Act 1 of Hell. I'll keep jugging along at a snail's pace until I die or get bored.

yeah, I'd definitely hold off anymore on blacksmithing items unless you REALLY need to chance it. As of now, the costs are just too high at higher levels and it's too random to be paying 80k for one attempt at a piece of armor.

[TheEschaton]

Yeah, I need to farm up 500k to get my staff upgraded to hell level. Jesus.

[Androidpk]

I saw Android blow past me on his hardcore run and laughed.

I'm not playing hardcore but I am blowing through shit at a ridiculous pace. Just killed Azmodan in about 30 seconds though I did get pretty lucky with having a frenzy shrine right before fighting him. That combined with berserk and my attack speed shoots up to like 125%. Sidearm on frenzy usually goes off pretty often but at that point I might as well be shooting out laser beams like a machine gun.

[Tenlaar]

It would seem that the Outer Banks WAN and hardcore are not a very good combo. 35 barb with over 10k hp dead from a 10 second or so lag fighting act 1 NM trees. Sucky way to start a vacation.

[Gizmo]

It would seem that the Outer Banks WAN and hardcore are not a very good combo. 35 barb with over 10k hp dead from a 10 second or so lag fighting act 1 NM trees. Sucky way to start a vacation.

Yeah, I'm not even advancing past like Skeleton King Act 1 with my Hardcore Barb until I get things situated at my place

[SpiffyJr]

You don't need much HP for butcher just make sure you have enough DPS before he enrages and the fire pwns you. You just need enough HP to survive charge or his big hit if you fuck up

[Tenlaar]

Bah, feel teh spirit of HARDCORES!!1!

Dinner's done, time to start my new HC barb on shitty OBXWAN.

If he dies again I might try to sue them though. I'll see who is handling all the cases of people wanting to sue Blizzard for their characters dying from latency issues.

[Gizmo]

Bah, feel teh spirit of HARDCORES!!1!

Dinner's done, time to start my new HC barb on shitty OBXWAN.

If he dies again I might try to sue them though. I'll see who is handling all the cases of people wanting to sue Blizzard for their characters dying from latency issues.

If you want, I can tag along too with my lowbie barb, he's like level 9 right now.


You don't need much HP for butcher just make sure you have enough DPS before he enrages and the fire pwns you. You just need enough HP to survive charge or his big hit if you fuck up


My issue is the FPS bit, it's suicide with this laptop...Not that I can't beat him otherwise, but having 2 FPS the entire fight doesn't really help my cause

[Some Rogue]

Or you can exploit the door and stand right at the entrance and take no fire damage. Heh.

[SpiffyJr]

Or you can exploit the door and stand right at the entrance and take no fire damage. Heh.

HAAAAAAAAACKS

[Gizmo]

Or you can exploit the door and stand right at the entrance and take no fire damage. Heh.

Interesting, I wonder if that would help me at all in Inferno with my current build

[Androidpk]

Someday I might give hardcore a shot but for now I'd rather beat Inferno first. Just started act 1 Hell.

[Sean of the Thread]

Why are you mother fuckers not teaming up with my ass in hell. These random Koreans play worse than Stretch.

[Androidpk]

Whats your battlenet thingy and what part you on?

[Sean of the Thread]

Act III Bastions keep

pooho#1896

[Fallen]

My DPS is horrid, just now over 1k at level 40, but I have 11k health. I wish the commodities auction would open back up. I have a million Topaz and Emeralds that I am sure some fuck could use, but I sure as hell can't. I think I will have a use for the Artisan. Most things I want to craft only cast like 8k. You need to bring a lot of broken down gear, but that shouldn't be too much of an issue once I max out storage space.

I thought I was Billy Badass last night once I managed to get my gems sorted out and marched through the Spider Queen area. Once I hit the highlands I ran into a Gold goatman and his minion Shaman pack, plus I think an Elite pack as I was running away that nearly killed me. I had to duck into a cave and TP out. Quite a rush, though.

[Gizmo]

Why are you mother fuckers not teaming up with my ass in hell. These random Koreans play worse than Stretch.

The whole time you've been on in my player's list, it always had you in Menu and never in a game so I never joined

[DarkSorc]

Im down to play with anyone, on act 4 Hell. Current dps is 20k my gamertag is in here somewhere and Giz knows it also.

[Some Rogue]

Finished Act 1 Inferno on my DH (less than a day after hitting 60). It was all 100x easier than when I did it on my monk except for the Butcher. I had to be perfect or he'd one shot me every single time.

[g++]

It does. Alot of people though, myself, Spiffy...Hell even Kripparian farm Act 1 Goblin and Quills which I find super easy to do, and yield better stuff than Hell.

Although if you want to Stack NV, then I guess you should farm Act 4 or 3 and do Siegebreaker/Azmodan


Been thinking about farming the ACT II goblin, I mean why bother killing champions when theres goblins that drop the same loot as belial right? Anyway if you guys want the waypoints in ACTII lemme know.

How hard is it to buy a magic find set?

[Xzean]

G, as soon as I can beat Act1 on my WD I'd love to take you up on those waypoints.

[Gizmo]

G, as soon as I can beat Act1 on my WD I'd love to take you up on those waypoints.

Act 2 Waypoint is the Black Soulstone Quest, Ancient Path Waypoint...Just WP in, head right to the east up the first set of stairs and the goblin spawns right on the first ledge.

A warning though, alot of times champ packs spawn there also, or regular mobs and the goblin will alot of times run around them and aggro them on you, since it's not as a confined space as Act 1.

IMO, Act 3 is where it's at farming, but I'm personally not there yet but it's pretty easy as hell since the dungeon only spawns 1 champion pack, and the rest inside are normal

[Gizmo]

Been thinking about farming the ACT II goblin, I mean why bother killing champions when theres goblins that drop the same loot as belial right? Anyway if you guys want the waypoints in ACTII lemme know.

How hard is it to buy a magic find set?

It's pretty simple, the biggest issue is finding a MF set with stats pertaining to your class as well and to aid survivability.

For example, I have 182% Magic Find gear, but I pretty much have to avoid fighting anything with it on since I get 2 shotted by Walking Corpse Zombies in Act 1.

What alot of people do, if they don't have a good MF set with nice stats so they can survive with it on, is of course wear their normal gear, clear out the area, then swap and go for the Goblin/Chest.

I do that with some other Act 1 farming spots, and Act 3 myself since my MF set is like newb type class shit lol

[g++]

Yah was just planning on buying INT/MF and swapping gear everytime checking the 2 spots in act II.

Are you saying Act III Inferno farming?

[Gizmo]

Yah was just planning on buying INT/MF and swapping gear everytime checking the 2 spots in act II.

Are you saying Act III Inferno farming?

Yeah, I mean obviously the higher Act is always better in terms of loot tiers, so if you can do Act 3 to the farm spot, then do that instead of Act 2...But if you can't do Act 3 yet but can do Act 2, do Act 2 instead of 1 etc.

Act 3 farm spot has the chance for a resplendent chest and a goblin in the same hit

[g++]

I can clear ACTII except Belial, get overrun by the adds.

[Gizmo]

I can clear ACTII except Belial, get overrun by the adds.


Yeah, you'll be stuck farming Act 2 then still until you can pretty much clear Act 3.

The farming spot for Act 3 is Siegebreaker, you take the Rakkis Crossing waypoint, head right to Azmodan's but log out once you get the checkpoint and don't enter it.

Once you log back in, you should be outside his entrance, you head back south and to the left looking for the dungeon "Underbridge". That is where the chest/goblin is with a Champ Pack.

But Inferno would be a bitch clearly right now unless you are one of those ez pz high dps ranged OP classes :P

[g++]

I have no idea if I can clear ACTIII since I cant get passed Belial, Im wondering if you have so I can get a way point off you basically lol.

[TheEschaton]

Pjaay gave me a crossbow last night which literally more than doubled my DPS from 9.5kish to 19k+. Guess I'll be farming Inferno Act I for the first time tonight.

[TheEschaton]

Found my second legendary...


...in Act I normal, on my new barbarian. Goddamn it.

[Gizmo]

Found my second legendary...


...in Act I normal, on my new barbarian. Goddamn it.

Do you still need these Int/Res All Gear?

My stash is literally full of shit so I'm about to either sell it on the AH or salvage it

[Gizmo]

I have no idea if I can clear ACTIII since I cant get passed Belial, Im wondering if you have so I can get a way point off you basically lol.

Not Inferno, I haven't even started to clear Act 1 yet on Inferno.

For me it's a bit more difficult due to my awesome 5 FPS during barrel smashing/swarms/bosses

[Stretch]

Finally got around to starting a hardcore character. Against my better judgment, opted for a monk since that's the only class that I've played through to at least part of Inferno. Guess we'll see how that goes.

Also, apparently I've picked up 2.2MM gold. I have shockingly little to show for it.

[Warriorbird]

Working primarily on my Demon Hunter now. Solo rolling through Act 3 Hell. 45k DPS/24k Life. Glass Cannon like woah.

Much easier than Monk so far.

[Gizmo]

Working primarily on my Demon Hunter now. Solo rolling through Act 3 Hell. 45k DPS/24k Life. Glass Cannon like woah.

Much easier than Monk so far.

Yeah, Both melee classes are gimped to hell.

Barb's more so than Monks if I say so.

If you wanna roll thru like Inferno, just roll a DH or Mage with super high ass DPS and profit.

If my laptop could handle it, I'd be all over DH right now, but alas I can not yet :(

[Androidpk]

Working primarily on my Demon Hunter now. Solo rolling through Act 3 Hell. 45k DPS/24k Life. Glass Cannon like woah.

Much easier than Monk so far.

45k dps? please tell me you are lvl 60.

[Warriorbird]

45k dps? please tell me you are lvl 60.

As soon as you get sharpshooter that's doable long before (50). Run a reduced level requirement blue bow, and Steady Aim/Archery/Sharpshooter.

[Androidpk]

Sweet, I'm sitting at around 25k dps fully buffed with berserk at lvl 58. Got a nice sword waiting for me at lvl 60 that should give me a nice sized bump.

[SpiffyJr]

First set item - and it's a HUGE upgrade!


http://i.imgur.com/na1Om.png

[Androidpk]

Alright, just past the first area in Act 3 and now I'm starting to sweat a little. There was definitely (and finally) a noticeable increase in difficulty level, at least in regards to the elite packs I'm coming across. Level 59 so I should be able to get a decent boost to my gear RSN.

[TheEschaton]

Some Rogue (DH) and I (wizard) got a Waller/Mortar/Reflect Damage/Arcane pack of mobs which also hit like a truck, in the halls of agony (lots of small, narrow, hallways). Needless to say, they kept boxing us in and then shelling us to death or cutting us to ribbons with orbs. Goddamn it some of these combos are unfair.

[subzero]

Zombie bears = rawrstampedediestampederawr! (for whatever reason, seeing that stupid conglomeration of text made me think of whatever goofy sound Quan Chi makes when he does his air-stomp move. This makes it even more appropriate since these motherfuckin bears roflstomp every motherfuckin thing in their motherfuckin way)


http://www.madhousebeyond.com/graphics/stomp.gif

[Warriorbird]

First set item - and it's a HUGE upgrade!


http://i.imgur.com/na1Om.png

Barring the whole IAS being bugged bit, seems awesome.

Did some of my first co-op stuff with Alerr's player. Working resists up a bit to prep for Inferno.

[Sean of the Thread]

I think I need to re roll something act II hell only 8k dps and that's trying. Monk is hard as fuck.

[Androidpk]

Barring the whole IAS being bugged bit, seems awesome.

Did some of my first co-op stuff with Alerr's player. Working resists up a bit to prep for Inferno.

It's only bugged on some legendary items.

[g++]

I think I need to re roll something act II hell only 8k dps and that's trying. Monk is hard as fuck.


There is nothing wrong with that. High dps really means jack shit in the end game. Its required if your ranged but if your melee and have good survival you will make up for low dps with good uptime. My barb only does 8k in inferno and he can full clear solo(act1 only obv). A lot of people with 50k dps actually do more like 5k in inferno when you factor in the time they spend running for their lives and looking at the you have lost 10% durability screen,

[Fallen]

I was checking out Rimalon's profile today and I had to laugh. He has 2 dead hardcore characters that are a higher level than mine is now, and another one he is actively playing that is higher than mine as well. For all my caution I will probably get killed in Hell just like everyone else.

[g++]

I was checking out Rimalon's profile today and I had to laugh. He has 2 dead hardcore characters that are a higher level than mine is now, and another one he is actively playing that is higher than mine as well. For all my caution I will probably get killed in Hell just like everyone else.

I think Barb has the best chance of any character to survive to 60 solo. Sword and Board with a defensive spec and high vitality hell packs should not give you trouble unless you seriously fuck up and pull half a map. When I did Diablo on Hell with my barb I didn't even have to move I literally just stood in front of him spamming revenge...he couldnt kill me.

[Androidpk]

Act 1 Inferno. I thought going through Hell was fun but Inferno is even better. Having seen some of the insane combinations on elite packs in hell and now inferno I'm going to have to give a big no to playing hardcore. I'd rather take heavy grit sandpaper to my balls than lose 70+ hours and then blow another 70 JUST to get back to that point where I enjoy it the most. You guys are crazy.


http://i49.tinypic.com/1z3vxbo.jpg

[Seran]

I had this set of skeletons that were invulnerable, mortar and reflect. All of them had a bubble around them I couldn't dent with my wizard, so I finally gave up on that dungeon.

[SpiffyJr]

I had this set of skeletons that were invulnerable, mortar and reflect. All of them had a bubble around them I couldn't dent with my wizard, so I finally gave up on that dungeon.

You have to target the primary monster and once it's down all the others will die too.

[g++]

Yah that can be impossible. If you run into an elite pack you cant kill on softcore just spawn hump to a corner and park the pack there. Bashiok as much as said their going to nerf invulnerables because their borderline impossible for certain classes...like for instances wizards.

[DarkSorc]

I just got into Inferno last night, I am currently at 36k DPS and 23k Health DH.... its rough I will be farming Hell for a while

[g++]

I just got into Inferno last night, I am currently at 36k DPS and 23k Health DH.... its rough I will be farming Hell for a while

There are quite a few of us doing inferno now, I do at least 1 inferno act 1 or 2 farm run a night on my barb or wizard if you want to team up with someone my battle net tag is Pjaay#1847. Getting very close to having Belial down(phase 3 one shot deaths) on my wizard so hopefully by this weekend Ill be on Act III inferno. I hate to say it but farming hell probably wont be very productive I think 90% of inferno is learning how to deal with specific combinations, learning a good kiting strategy and simply brute forcing your way through deaths and coming to grips with the fact that your not playing a super hero anymore the gear is really only 10% if your ranged. Stat wise you could use a little vit but you sound ready for inferno.

[Gizmo]

I hate finding stupid legendary items i can't even use....Found another earlier, another monk weapon

[Gizmo]

They are patching again tomorrow to fix some things it seems, and add a few more tweaks to the AH, one good one is you can now sell damaged items in the AH, and when you purchase a damaged item it will automatically be repaired when sent to stash

[Atlanteax]

one good one is you can now sell damaged items in the AH

Good, because that *was* indeed annoying ... besides repairs are so cheap too ... why even have 'breakage' in the game still? Particularly since vendor-ing various drops of equipment is pennies compared to D2.

[g++]

Repairs are not cheap at all. Repairs for my wizard are 7k, for my barb 6k. Essentially all the shit I vendor goes straight too repairs. Between health potions and repairs wiping on Belial can easily cost me 100k an hour.

[TheEschaton]

I had this set of skeletons that were invulnerable, mortar and reflect. All of them had a bubble around them I couldn't dent with my wizard, so I finally gave up on that dungeon.

I run blizzard (snowbound), hydra (venom), and arcane orb (celestial) in my build, so for invuln minions, I just put the hydra down, it'll shoot at invuln minions but still put the pool down, try and get as many blizzards off, and use arcane orb, which'll pass thru the minions to the mob boss, while I try and kite him thru venom pools as well.

It's really the only way wizards can deal with invulnerable minions.

[DarkSorc]

I'm down to play tonight when I get home. I switched some stuff up and got my dps up to 40k and hpS up to 26k

[Gizmo]

Started my trek into the world of Hardcore. I think in the long run it will be better for a few reasons, granted I'm sure I'll be sad when I do die after spending alot of time into one toon, but that's half the fun of it I guess, knowing the next move could be my last. I'm definitely not going to tackle butcher though until I know I can safely kill him without dying a fps death

[Androidpk]

I think in the long run it will be better for a few reasons

Such as?..

[Gizmo]

Such as?..

I just feel like I won't lost interest in the grind as much, or the game itself for that matter.

Plus things won't be so absurdly priced or retarded since Hardcore will have no RMAH...Seems like Hardcore will be for those who want to play and enjoy the game with a twist, and not be frustrated at other things, but I could be wrong that's just how I look at it.

[Tgo01]

Well after days of moping and thinking the game is impossible on Inferno I upgraded my gear, redid my skills and finally beat Act 2 on my Barbarian. I still think the difficulty is a bit high, most of the act I either ended up dragging elite packs back to my spawn point so I could keep respawning right on top of them before they could heal, or I would lead the packs away to avoid them or I simply ran through the dungeon to the end to proceed. At the very least I think Barbarians and Monks need some love.

Once you get the hang of Belial's attacks he's not as bad, although still a pain.

[g++]

Well after days of moping and thinking the game is impossible on Inferno I upgraded my gear, redid my skills and finally beat Act 2 on my Barbarian. I still think the difficulty is a bit high, most of the act I either ended up dragging elite packs back to my spawn point so I could keep respawning right on top of them before they could heal, or I would lead the packs away to avoid them or I simply ran through the dungeon to the end to proceed. At the very least I think Barbarians and Monks need some love.

Once you get the hang of Belial's attacks he's not as bad, although still a pain.

What skills and stats did you have for act II packs?

[Tgo01]

What skills and stats did you have for act II packs?

9500 armor, 600 resists, 33k health, 18k damage
Skills. (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WVXkPT!ebV!YcacZb)

After my NV buff wore off trying to kill Belial I changed Frenzy from Smite to Sidearm and changed out Superstition to Inspiring Presence. Made killing Belial's adds much easier.

I guess I exaggerated with my prior post, if I had to guess I'd say 50% of elite packs I had little trouble with, 30% I had to drag to a spawn point to respawn fast so I could finish them off and the other 20% I skipped.

[TheEschaton]

Right after pj and sorc left, a guildie from WoW popped in and dropped these weapons at my feet and left. If anyone wants one of these or an 870 intelligence crossbow, lemme know. I'm using the mace right now.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m21/alokpinto/noice.jpg

[Warriorbird]

Alerr might want that staff. I'll ask.

[Fallen]

Moving nicely through Nightmare Act II on HC. If I devote a decent amount of playtime I should be well into Act III by tomorrow.

[g++]

Finally downed Belial, took an obscene amount of attempts. Act III is hard. That is all.

[TheEschaton]

Oh man, finding two socketed one handers and a socketed helm and putting inferno red gems in there (+exp for helm, +dmg for weapons) and my alt barb went from 16 to 26 tonight in a few hours, absolutely wrecking shit.

[Fallen]

It is very odd they didn't put level restrictions on gems, but it definitely makes catching up quick and easy.

[Androidpk]

Also kind of odd that items aren't bind on equip. May not sound like a good idea but I think it would help out with the craziness of the AH. Is it true that the highest level gems don't drop and are crafted only?

[Fallen]

No idea. What regularly drops on Inferno? It seems gems typically drop 1-2 levels from the top of the difficulty level.

[Fallen]

I'm reading you can find up to 8th tier as treasure drops, and can craft up to the 14th tier. That is a lot of work, but you can re-use gems so may as well. Topaz in the weapon slot for instant kills of most mobs when they hit you. I suppose a Barb could use 2 weapons and really mess things up. Ruby in the helm slot for +20% learning.

[Androidpk]

Yeah I was just looking at the requirements for the 8th tier, works out to over 15m per gem.

[Androidpk]

Err, I thought "scheduled maintenance" was set for Tuesdays? Wake up early, brew coffee, servers down :( Before they came down I was able to snag a pretty sweet chest piece on the AH. High armor, vitality, physical resist, all resist, and extra health from globes. Pretty big upgrade and it was only set for a 16k buyout.

[Fallen]

Same. I always get screwed out of early morning playing. I did manage an armor upgrade myself for 7kish. I always undersell my non-barb stuff for cheap so I can constantly grab small but noticeable equipment upgrades.

[g++]

Oh man, finding two socketed one handers and a socketed helm and putting inferno red gems in there (+exp for helm, +dmg for weapons) and my alt barb went from 16 to 26 tonight in a few hours, absolutely wrecking shit.

Try this, take the red gems out of the weapons and put in yellows. Then take the barb passive thorns buff. You will no longer have to do anything but walk and kill ranged mobs.

[Gizmo]

I'm reading you can find up to 8th tier as treasure drops, and can craft up to the 14th tier. That is a lot of work, but you can re-use gems so may as well. Topaz in the weapon slot for instant kills of most mobs when they hit you. I suppose a Barb could use 2 weapons and really mess things up. Ruby in the helm slot for +20% learning.

Yup, like g had also mentioned holds true.

I tested it on my DH however since I figured he was ranged, so by the time any melee got to him they'd be lower health at that rate....But man, even without the Barbarian passive, I'm using 702 thorn damage on normal and most shit one shots itself for now. If you were to use a barbarian, and the highest tier gem you can craft, you'd be doing 2600dmg on hit just from your weapons alone, then tack on other thorns gear you find and add in high life regen/life on hit weapons...It may be a lethal combo

[g++]

Blizzard just posted 1.0.3 updated patch notes. They are nerfing inferno 2,3,4 and allowing ilevel 62 and 63 items to drop in act 1 and 63 in act II at reduced rates. They are also quadrupling repair costs and lowering costs for crafting. Good changes imo.

[Androidpk]

Quadrupling repair costs? Do not like.

[Gizmo]

Blizzard just posted 1.0.3 updated patch notes. They are nerfing inferno 2,3,4 and allowing ilevel 62 and 63 items to drop in act 1 and 63 in act II at reduced rates. They are also quadrupling repair costs and lowering costs for crafting. Good changes imo.

heh, they are still patching the fuck out of this game. First today was 1.02c or whatever for the AH, now 1.03 is already being posted.

But yeah, that makes it I think easier for those of us stuck in Act 1 to farm some more and hope to move onto Act 2 eventually, I like that plus the other AH changes as mentioned from yesterday.

A link to the patch notes for people too.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6262208/Patch_103_Design_Preview-6_6_2012#blog

[g++]

heh, they are still patching the fuck out of this game. First today was 1.02c or whatever for the AH, now 1.03 is already being posted.

But yeah, that makes it I think easier for those of us stuck in Act 1 to farm some more and hope to move onto Act 2 eventually, I like that plus the other AH changes as mentioned from yesterday

Having been a blizzard fan boy for a number of years I think it will be a month or two before 1.3 actually comes down. They post previews for patches months in advance for WoW. It could possibly be different for diablo though. Especially since I imagine in diablo changing monster difficulty and what not is some software engineer changing a constant number in a text file.

[Atlanteax]

All the long long wait for D3 ... seems there is a feeling of being letdown after the hype.

I really enjoyed the polish with the lore (over D2) but I'm just not feeling the fun/joy that I would in D2 in replays.

Some of these "3 words" are on target. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5593235996

Editted to add +1 to "Blizzard North Left" and the following:

http://www.amazon.com/Diablo-III-Standard-Edition-Pc/product-reviews/B00178630A/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

[Liagala]

So out of curiosity Atlanteax, is it possible for Blizzard to put out a product that you actually approve of?

[AnticorRifling]

So out of curiosity Atlanteax, is it possible for Blizzard to put out a product that you actually approve of?

I'm waiting for him to provide us with a copy of any software he's written that has multiple user inputs and is without flaws. Clearly he's done this given his stance.

[Dranock]

I'm up to Inferno Act III on my wizard. My hardcore character died at 40 from a battle.net disconnect.. good times.

[Gizmo]

I'm excited though about most changes. PK will be heartbroken over the IAS nerf...But I like how they dumbed down group play since it was so damn tough on inferno even with two people. Now I can effectively just use a tank build to help out buddies beat shit that out DPS me

[Tgo01]

Quadrupling repair costs? Do not like.

As long as they are doing it after they nerf Inferno I actually like the idea. Right now there is literally nothing to use gold on except repairs and potions (crafting just isn't worth the high cost.) AH prices have been going up very rapidly due to this.

[Some Rogue]

So out of curiosity Atlanteax, is it possible for Any game company anywhere to put out a product that you actually approve of?

Fixed.

[Tgo01]

I was seriously on edge about just quitting this game but after reading the patch notes I think I'll stick around for a while. It seems they actually addressed everyone's concerns. Such as banging your head against a brick wall to kill an elite pack only to see a bunch of blues drop, now you're guaranteed a rare with 5 stacks. That also has the added bonus of actually wanting to kill more rare packs.

Making Inferno Acts 2, 3 and 4 easier? YES PLEASE! I really don't know how much more I can possibly upgrade my Barbarian without spending tens of millions of gold that I don't have and I can't even reach the first signal fire in Act 3.

The only thing lacking is they said they weren't going to nerf/buff anyone, I still think melee classes need some sort of help but maybe reducing the amount of damage/life of monsters in Inferno will be all that's needed.

[Atlanteax]

So out of curiosity Atlanteax, is it possible for Blizzard to put out a product that you actually approve of?

Warcraft 2, WoW-BC, Diablo 2

[Androidpk]

I like how the highest tier items will have a chance to drop in Act 1 and 2 but I don't think the difficulty level should be toned down TOO much. I wouldn't mind the increased repair costs if it didn't feel like I had to play the AH to make a lot of gold. It makes zero sense that white items sell for such low amounts, regardless of what quality they are. Torn rags vs masterfully crafted angelic plate? 10 gold each!

Also makes no sense to nerf IAS just because a lot of people like it. Resist all items are favored more so by Blizzard's logic those need to be nerfed too?

[Atlanteax]

I'm waiting for him to provide us with a copy of any software he's written that has multiple user inputs and is without flaws. Clearly he's done this given his stance.

Paradox is an excellent software game developer whose games are well regarded by its fanbase, and while their games are not 'flawless' there is an absence of the broad disappointment/criticism as seen on WoW / D3 forums.

Forums of a Paradox game that I love: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?323-Europa-Universalis-III Some threads point out flaws with proposed resolutions.

(see above, Some Rogue)

MMO-wise, Trion (RIFT) has demonstrated an ability to keep their playerbase happy and does not seem to suffer this kind of negative response on an on-going basis.

[g++]

I'm excited though about most changes. PK will be heartbroken over the IAS nerf...But I like how they dumbed down group play since it was so damn tough on inferno even with two people. Now I can effectively just use a tank build to help out buddies beat shit that out DPS me

My wizard has IAS 15% plus on every piece possible except legendary/set because it isnt actually working. Im all for the nerf. Its pretty retarded that a yellow ring with 100+ intellect and 100+ vitality is junk because it doesnt have IAS. Rings/necks/gloves that dont have attack speed are all complete junk right now and that isnt right.

As far as people complaining about diablo, its a sandbox game it is what you make of it. I was bored to tears with my wizard and made a barb and am loving it, which also gives me more reason to enjoy the wizard. Try getting some gamer tags off the PC and playing with other people or leveling a new character...or dont. One of the really nice things about diablo is no one gives a shit how many people are playing unlike wow so when people are not enjoying it they can really just leave. Its a 60 dollar game with no subscription, I have bought tons of 60 dollars games I didnt like but for some reason when its blizzard people feel like blizzard owes them a there-there and a "well fix the bad game for you". I understand why people get so upset about WoW because its sub based and people have put years into their characters but some of the people posting on blizzards boards are acting like blizzard killed their family because they payed 60 dollars, played a game for 50 hours and didnt like it. Thats actually the most common thing that happens when I buy a video game.

[Gizmo]

I like how the highest tier items will have a chance to drop in Act 1 and 2 but I don't think the difficulty level should be toned down TOO much. I wouldn't mind the increased repair costs if it didn't feel like I had to play the AH to make a lot of gold. It makes zero sense that white items sell for such low amounts, regardless of what quality they are. Torn rags vs masterfully crafted angelic plate? 10 gold each!

Also makes no sense to nerf IAS just because a lot of people like it. Resist all items are favored more so by Blizzard's logic those need to be nerfed too?

Well, they aren't nerfing IAS so to speak, but tweaking how it works.

Right now, it messes with secondary things like combat mobility, resource regeneration etc because attacks can fire off so fast, it's skewed.

[Tgo01]

I like how the highest tier items will have a chance to drop in Act 1 and 2 but I don't think the difficulty level should be toned down TOO much.

Yeah I agree, right now Inferno is difficult but not impossible or anything. But it definitely needs some nerfing. I actually read that some Barbarians clearing Inferno have a ranged build because it's much easier. That's fine if they enjoy that sort of build but Barbarians shouldn't be required to go ranged to clear this game :/


It makes zero sense that white items sell for such low amounts, regardless of what quality they are. Torn rags vs masterfully crafted angelic plate? 10 gold each!

I agree, no idea why Blizzard even bothered to put white items in this game, I wish there was a way to hide them so they never show up anymore.

[Gizmo]

My wizard has IAS 15% plus on every piece possible except legendary/set because it isnt actually working. Im all for the nerf. Its pretty retarded that a yellow ring with 100+ intellect and 100+ vitality is junk because it doesnt have IAS. Rings/necks/gloves that dont have attack speed are all complete junk right now and that isnt right.

As far as people complaining about diablo, its a sandbox game it is what you make of it. I was bored to tears with my wizard and made a barb and am loving it, which also gives me more reason to enjoy the wizard. Try getting some gamer tags off the PC and playing with other people or leveling a new character...or dont. One of the really nice things about diablo is no one gives a shit how many people are playing unlike wow so when people are not enjoying it they can really just leave. Its a 60 dollar game with no subscription, I have bought tons of 60 dollars games I didnt like but for some reason when its blizzard people feel like blizzard owes them a there-there and a "well fix the bad game for you". I understand why people get so upset about WoW because its sub based and people have put years into their characters but some of the people posting on blizzards boards are acting like blizzard killed their family because they payed 60 dollars, played a game for 50 hours and didnt like it. Thats actually the most common thing that happens when I buy a video game.

Exactly. With MMO's I feel like if I don't log in, I'm missing out on valuable time, and I think that's the issue alot with most MMOs. People feel as if when they aren't playing, everyone else is surpassing them.

With games like D3, who cares? There is no end game pretty much since all you will do is farm gear, and keep playing/beating the same levels over and over.

Arena will make things slightly different, but even then not so much

[Androidpk]

Rings/necks/gloves that dont have attack speed are all complete junk right now and that isnt right.

Same thing could be said about resist all and vitality.

[g++]

Not really. You need a set number of resist all to comfortably play in inferno. You do not need it on every single piece so a really good set of bracers with tons of armor and physical resist can be amazing and you can equip it knowing you will get your resist all elsewhere. There are limited amounts of places you can get attack speed so you need to get it on ALL of them to maximize dps. I simply wont equip rings without attack speed on a ranged dps...period.

[Atlanteax]

I agree, no idea why Blizzard even bothered to put white items in this game, I wish there was a way to hide them so they never show up anymore.

This would be a nice addition if it happens. Accidentally looting the whites when trying to pick up blues easily happens in MP since everyone is trying to keep up with each other, so it is kinda amusing to see how frequently myself and others are tossing their whites in MP.

I've seen how much 'harder' it is with 4 people in the same game, so I kinda 'get' the argument where it is more 'optimal' to be running just 2-3 on the harder difficulties... which runs counter to trying to encourage MP-play.
So if that is going to be honestly addressed in upcoming patches, that will help with the 'fun value' some.

[Dranock]

My battletag is johnpal1331 if anyone cares to join me.

[Back]

Not sure that anyone has posted this yet but the Torhead guys had this on their homepage for a while.

Database for D3 ---------------> http://d3db.com

[Tgo01]

Increased attack speed is really powerful right now, not only because it makes things like life leeching more effective but because the damage increase is hard to compete with. Comparing gloves with 100 strength to gloves with 15% increased speed isn't even a contest, the increased speed wins and not by a small margin either. Before I found a rare ring that actually had 15% increased attack speed and some nice other stats I was wearing two blue rings with 80+ strength and 15% increased attack speed.

[Androidpk]

Not really. You need a set number of resist all to comfortably play in inferno. You do not need it on every single piece so a really good set of bracers with tons of armor and physical resist can be amazing and you can equip it knowing you will get your resist all elsewhere. There are limited amounts of places you can get attack speed so you need to get it on ALL of them to maximize dps. I simply wont equip rings without attack speed on a ranged dps...period.

That set number for resists is pretty high though and is a bigger necessity than IAS. With that being said I will admit I am an IAS whore. With full frenzy and wrath of the berserk I'm up to +171% increased attack speed.

[Some Rogue]

Paradox is an excellent software game developer whose games are well regarded by its fanbase, and while their games are not 'flawless' there is an absence of the broad disappointment/criticism as seen on WoW / D3 forums.

(see above, Some Rogue)



Because they have a fraction of the playerbase. You gaming hipster. "Yeah, this game is pretty cool, you've probably never heard of it."


Warcraft 2, WoW-BC, Diablo 2
I liked Warcraft/Wow and Diablo before they became so mainstream.

[g++]

I had to migrate a paradox database too mysql last year. That was quite possibly one of the worst games I have ever played.

[g++]

I was seriously on edge about just quitting this game but after reading the patch notes I think I'll stick around for a while. It seems they actually addressed everyone's concerns. Such as banging your head against a brick wall to kill an elite pack only to see a bunch of blues drop, now you're guaranteed a rare with 5 stacks. That also has the added bonus of actually wanting to kill more rare packs.

Making Inferno Acts 2, 3 and 4 easier? YES PLEASE! I really don't know how much more I can possibly upgrade my Barbarian without spending tens of millions of gold that I don't have and I can't even reach the first signal fire in Act 3.

The only thing lacking is they said they weren't going to nerf/buff anyone, I still think melee classes need some sort of help but maybe reducing the amount of damage/life of monsters in Inferno will be all that's needed.

We should try to play together I think. If you can get out a shield and survive for 20 seconds with a stun or two tossed in we might be able to clear some of ACT III if I take a full blown glass cannon spec. Will be pretty painful I imagine but could get us some waypoints.

[Fallen]

Stupid game still down.

[Gizmo]

Stupid game still down.

haha yeah, it's supposed to be down for another 15mins.

I don't foresee it being delayed for long again like the previous patches, since mine has already patched...So hopefully around 15mins or so it will be back up

[Tgo01]

We should try to play together I think. If you can get out a shield and survive for 20 seconds with a stun or two tossed in we might be able to clear some of ACT III if I take a full blown glass cannon spec. Will be pretty painful I imagine but could get us some waypoints.

We can try, so far every elite pack I've tried has owned me though. I managed to kill two of them but it took a while, the third I had no chance.

[g++]

Yah I had similiar experiences. Im thinking about a full blown archon spec where hopefully I can blow one away while its stunned, rinse/repeat till we get the waypoint for the basement level with the chest. As I am typing this I am realizing this sounds horribly boring and I would actually rather just farm act II LOL.

[Androidpk]

Not sure about Warcraft but Diablo has always been pretty mainstream.

[Gizmo]

Not sure about Warcraft but Diablo has always been pretty mainstream.

I'd think Warcraft is/was pretty Mainstream too...It practically is what got the Blizzard franchise really rolling back when I was in Middle School or what not

[Atlanteax]

The unhappiness lately probably predominantly involves Activision's influence upon game-design.
Anyone remember enjoying the 'classic' Westwood games (Command & Conquer series) ? Then EA came along...

I would attribute it to how the game design for these titles are more about monetizing them (Activison & EA needing to recoup acquisition costs and then more) ... than about ensuring the fun factor and the play-quality of the games, which results in high replay-ability.
(Activison likely compelled how integral the AH is to D3 so that they could make additional $$ off the RMAH ... which *did* effect the game-experience otherwise)

It was the *quality* of WC3 that made World of Warcraft possible (particularly with the initial momentum so as to be self-sustaining).
Blizzard did a very very nice job with WC3 ... on some level they were unprepared for WoW to be as successful as it was out-of-the-gates, since the player-base was very enthused about WoW considering how happy they were with WC3.

I was one of those that transitioned to WoW from WC3, and I did enjoy classic WoW a lot. I just consider WoW-BC to be 'the peak'.

[AnticorRifling]

Paradox is an excellent software game developer whose games are well regarded by its fanbase, and while their games are not 'flawless' there is an absence of the broad disappointment/criticism as seen on WoW / D3 forums.

Forums of a Paradox game that I love: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?323-Europa-Universalis-III Some threads point out flaws with proposed resolutions.

(see above, Some Rogue)

MMO-wise, Trion (RIFT) has demonstrated an ability to keep their playerbase happy and does not seem to suffer this kind of negative response on an on-going basis.

This game has 100 followers and only 10 people bitching so clearly it is better than a game that has 1000 followers and 11 people bitching because 10 is less than 11.

RIFT is a TUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRD.

[AnticorRifling]

I just consider WoW-BC to be 'the peak'.

What was peak about it. This I'm going to love hearing.

How much classic did you do/play?

[Fallen]

haha yeah, it's supposed to be down for another 15mins.

I don't foresee it being delayed for long again like the previous patches, since mine has already patched...So hopefully around 15mins or so it will be back up

Meeeh. I guess they are taking their full allotted time for this patch.

[Androidpk]

What was peak about it. This I'm going to love hearing.

How much classic did you do/play?

Starting with TBC they started to cater more and more to the casual player.

[Gizmo]

Meeeh. I guess they are taking their full allotted time for this patch.

Yeah, they typically do. Usually I'll watch EU Streams on twitch to pass time since they don't go down for maintenance.

I also realized I said 1pm est earlier, I meant 2pm est

[Fallen]

Probably the most hilariously tragic thing i've seen in Diablo so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBFt2WUqQx8

[Back]

Probably the most hilariously tragic thing i've seen in Diablo so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBFt2WUqQx8

At least it was because he was a good husband and father.

[Atlanteax]

What was peak about it. This I'm going to love hearing.

How much classic did you do/play?

I covered why I liked WoW-BC in past WoW discussions.

I played classic WoW to level cap and then for awhile ... (5 months?) then effectively quit playing, and then came back 3-4 months before BC arrived.

I *liked* how you could not do elite areas in WoW without finding others attempting to do them. I remember when world traveling was a journey as well.

.

Anyhow, you may be missing 'the point' with EU3 and RIFT ... if you go randomly about their forums, you do not find the QQ-fest that you do find if you randomly go about D3/WoW forums. Game-design & game-management has a major role in that.

[Gizmo]

Probably the most hilariously tragic thing i've seen in Diablo so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBFt2WUqQx8

Funny.

Youtube Dirge's Hardcore Death on Butcher...They kill Butcher pretty easily, dumbass stands in the fire when he dies, and he got killed rofl

[Fallen]

They extended the maintenance another hour. Back to work for me. Ah well.

[DarkSorc]

This may be a stupid question but when I look at some people's sample builds for what they are using it will show 2 skills that are in the same tree. Maybe I am missing something but it will only allow me to choose 1 skill in the 4 different trees..... am I missing something here??? Stuck on Inferno butcher as a DH also if anyone has tips.

[Fallen]

This may be a stupid question but when I look at some people's sample builds for what they are using it will show 2 skills that are in the same tree. Maybe I am missing something but it will only allow me to choose 1 skill in the 4 different trees..... am I missing something here??? Stuck on Inferno butcher as a DH also if anyone has tips.

Go into Options > Gameplay > and check Elective mode.

Then, right click on one of your power tabs and you can choose whichever attack/power you want for that slot. Definitely needed for customizing your build for specfic situations.

As for tips, it may be worth the difficulty increase to try to get a tank in there with you for the boss. I've yet to play Co-op on anything but normal but it may be worth a shot.

[Liagala]

You are missing something here. In your options, find the checkbox for "Elective Mode." This allows you to assign skills to buttons as you choose, instead of being stuck with the 1-per-tree thing.

[Some Rogue]

Go into your options and change it to elective mode. You can pick whatever skill you want including several from the same tree.

[Some Rogue]

You are missing something here. In your options, find the checkbox for "Elective Mode." This allows you to assign skills to buttons as you choose, instead of being stuck with the 1-per-tree thing.

I keel you.

[Liagala]

Go keel Fallen. He beat us both to it!

[Gizmo]

This may be a stupid question but when I look at some people's sample builds for what they are using it will show 2 skills that are in the same tree. Maybe I am missing something but it will only allow me to choose 1 skill in the 4 different trees..... am I missing something here??? Stuck on Inferno butcher as a DH also if anyone has tips.

Yeah, I told Storm about Elective Mode before and assumed you knew as well, guess not. Fallen told you how to use it though....Elective mode basically lets you choose all 6 skills to fit your discretion.

Also, eventually they are dumbing down Co-Op with 1.0.3, which will help immensely...Maybe then I can tank better ;)

[Androidpk]

Yeah, I told Storm about Elective Mode before and assumed you knew as well, guess not. Fallen told you how to use it though....Elective mode basically lets you choose all 6 skills to fit your discretion.

Also, eventually they are dumbing down Co-Op with 1.0.3, which will help immensely...Maybe then I can tank better ;)

I'm still surprised I didn't die when you came into my game yesterday, that was hilarious.

[Drew]

Yeah I always message my hardcore friends first before I join the game just in case they are fighting an arcane waller jailer or something.

[Fallen]

I turned off auto-join for that very reason. If someone wants to join just shoot me a message or whatever.

[Gizmo]

I turned off auto-join for that very reason. If someone wants to join just shoot me a message or whatever.

Just save me some flawless square topaz for Hardcore..

[TheEschaton]

This may be a stupid question but when I look at some people's sample builds for what they are using it will show 2 skills that are in the same tree. Maybe I am missing something but it will only allow me to choose 1 skill in the 4 different trees..... am I missing something here??? Stuck on Inferno butcher as a DH also if anyone has tips.

I was wondering why you were using some relatively non-standard DH traps etc when you were playing with me and Pj yesterday. LOL.

[subzero]

I'd think Warcraft is/was pretty Mainstream too...It practically is what got the Blizzard franchise really rolling back when I was in Middle School or what not

Yep, Warcraft was the shit. At this point it's certainly mainstream, but I don't know if that is necessarily the right term for it back in the RTS days. It definitely had a huge fan base, though, which obviously led to a minor success in the MMO world when they decided to roll that out.

[TheEschaton]

I just crafted the hell level secret pony level staff, if anyone ever wants to do it. Now to get the Act IV waypoint to get the staff for Inferno.

[Tgo01]

Yeah Act 3 Inferno is definitely a giant brick wall for me in terms of progression, I've tried several different sets of armor with different stats and tried changing up my skills, nothing, can't even get close to the first signal fire. I really don't mind farming in this game, that's the whole point of Diablo after all. Just sucks knowing most loot that drops in Acts 1 and 2 of Inferno is complete shit that I can't use and won't sell for much on the AH.

Guess it's time to roll up another character until the patch, maybe try hardcore for once, never even tried it in D2.

[Gizmo]

Yeah Act 3 Inferno is definitely a giant brick wall for me in terms of progression, I've tried several different sets of armor with different stats and tried changing up my skills, nothing, can't even get close to the first signal fire. I really don't mind farming in this game, that's the whole point of Diablo after all. Just sucks knowing most loot that drops in Acts 1 and 2 of Inferno is complete shit that I can't use and won't sell for much on the AH.

Guess it's time to roll up another character until the patch, maybe try hardcore for once, never even tried it in D2.

You could roll with me in Hardcore.

Right now I play it REALLY safe since I'm still on the laptop, but I have a level 15 or 16 Barb in it right now, who JUST got to Act 2 normal...So you wouldn't be far behind.

Eventually I'll be playing solely Hardcore, once I get this rig ordered and built. I just like the allure of it better, that and the AH isn't shit there and won't have RMAH

[Tgo01]

You could roll with me in Hardcore.

Right now I play it REALLY safe since I'm still on the laptop, but I have a level 15 or 16 Barb in it right now, who JUST got to Act 2 normal...So you wouldn't be far behind.

Eventually I'll be playing solely Hardcore, once I get this rig ordered and built. I just like the allure of it better, that and the AH isn't shit there and won't have RMAH

Hardcore won't have a RMAH?

EDIT: Yup, no option to switch to RMAH on hardcore, never knew that.

[SpiffyJr]

Not sure that anyone has posted this yet but the Torhead guys had this on their homepage for a while.

Database for D3 ---------------> http://d3db.com

Yay for linking to our sites. ;)

[Atlanteax]

Hardcore won't have a RMAH?

EDIT: Yup, no option to switch to RMAH on hardcore, never knew that.

Now that is suprising ... since Hardcore would be competitive in a sense.

I guess they figure that on 'normal' servers, the top-end stuff will all get recycled from player to player, as they 'get bored', and make a bit of profit off that.

[Gizmo]

Hardcore won't have a RMAH?

EDIT: Yup, no option to switch to RMAH on hardcore, never knew that.

Yeah, I mean I like it and I don't....Similar to what Atlanteax said.

Those who play Hardcore like crazy, would expect to survive alot easier so I imagine the value of some items would be higher there, and people would pay in cash.

but on the other hand, who would want to pay cash for an item they could possibly lose, once they die? Which is why I think no rmah in hardcore is good for a few reasons...That and the economy is pretty good there, least pricing on the AH isn't so nuts...Although I've seen people with like 100mil in Hardcore etc heh...I just feel like everyone there is more cautious

[Tgo01]

Well I gave it another go, took things glacial slow and blew my cooldowns whenever they were up instead of saving them for elite packs and managed to get the signal beacons and catapult quests done. Man this is slow going.

[g++]

gratz man

[Warriorbird]

Made it to Inferno with the DH. We'll see how it goes. I think my DPS is good but my resists are probably way low.

[Gizmo]

The moment I get my new rig built, I'm levelling up my DH and doing what every other DH does, so I can farm Act 3/4 gear for my Barb

[Some Rogue]

If you're a DH, just don't get hit. Pump everything into DPS stats and forget Vit and resists. I finished act 1 within a day of being 60 and I'm now trying to progress through act 2.

[Tannious]

Playing my monk makes me want to punch myself in the face for wasting my time lvling him...

[Gizmo]

Playing my monk makes me want to punch myself in the face for wasting my time lvling him...

Yeah, for me I'm kinda forced into Barbarian at the moment due to major FPS issues with any ranged class heh...granted I love my Barb...Had I of known shit was gonna be this gimped with melee I'd have just waited

[Gizmo]

Just watched a guy stream Inferno Pony Level.

If you are ranged, the shit is super easy and you basically won't ever get hit once you engage elites on it if you are smart and know how....God I am so rolling my DH hard with this new rig when I order

[Stretch]

Gizmo's new rig is like the new TheEschaton going to law school.

[Fallen]

The gimpedness most really kick in once you hit Hell/Inferno as I am not having any difficulties as so far. I should clear Act 2 Nightmare today without issues. I'll likely do a bunch of runs of that Act 3 tower where you break those hearts until I'm a high enough level to max out Public games for Act 4.

[g++]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORN9vp2wZ8Q&feature=channel&list=UL

He ends up clearing the entire game with 1 million gold in gear.

[Tgo01]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORN9vp2wZ8Q&feature=channel&list=UL

He ends up clearing the entire game with 1 million gold in gear.

I have no idea how he's doing that, I saw him run through/stand in molten for a few seconds with "Ignore Pain" on cooldown and his health hardly dropped at all, I do the same and my health is almost half gone.

[g++]

I have no idea how he's doing that, I saw him run through/stand in molten for a few seconds with "Ignore Pain" on cooldown and his health hardly dropped at all, I do the same and my health is almost half gone.

Well even I can do that in act I with 500 resist and a 3k absorb shield..because your shield will absorb the entirety of the damage on block and you can clean up the ones that get through with revenge. He manages to get 1000 fire resist on his gear for 1 million though. Which is impressive.

[Tgo01]

Well even I can do that in act I with 500 resist and a 3k absorb shield..because your shield will absorb the entirety of the damage on block and you can clean up the ones that get through with revenge. He manages to get 1000 fire resist on his gear for 1 million though. Which is impressive.

It was Act 2 though, although looking back I guess Act 2 didn't give me too much trouble either, he did seem to die quite a bit on Act 3 so I guess I don't feel too bad. Maybe I'll give his build a try.

[g++]

Yah I have been slowly working into Act II on my barb..Im also thinking about switching to his build. His build really exploits stun locks alot better than mine which as the mobs begin to hit harder seems more important.

[Drew]

I wish I was further along like you softcore players, the first person I know just got to lvl 60 HC. And they are still in hell.

[Tgo01]

We don't fear death, that makes us more manly.

[Drew]

I've basically decided to wait until the 1.03 changes come in before I do inferno in hardcore and then do it multiplayer.

[g++]

Yah Im not playing hardcore. All the people are like "hardcore is more exciting" and everytime I turn on a hardcore stream they seem to be farming treasure goblins and level boosting each other or looking for exploits. It just looks like people wasting a lot of time in order to minimize risk. Id rather just spend less time farming goblins and more time actually playing the game. I dont even watch hardcore streams anymore because its so incredibly boring, they don't fight champs like ever past hell.

[Fallen]

I've basically decided to wait until the 1.03 changes come in before I do inferno in hardcore and then do it multiplayer.

Same.

[Gizmo]

Yah I have been slowly working into Act II on my barb..Im also thinking about switching to his build. His build really exploits stun locks alot better than mine which as the mobs begin to hit harder seems more important.

I bet his enchantress is still pretty geared out for DPS...Which is helping him also

[g++]

DPS for barbs barely matters, you know 30 seconds into fighting a champ if its going to happen based on whether your able to survive. Unless you do like 50k and can kill them while shield wall is up.

[Drew]

Same.

How far have you gotten in HC?

[Atlanteax]

Transcribed Q&A of D3 developers: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5578596168#6

Interesting 'explanation' of why D3 loot is not as rewarding as D2 (found in same Q&A): http://www.alexc.me/a-scientific-explanation-why-diablo-3-is-less-addictive-than-diablo-2/417/

[Tannious]

The gimpedness most really kick in once you hit Hell/Inferno as I am not having any difficulties as so far. I should clear Act 2 Nightmare today without issues. I'll likely do a bunch of runs of that Act 3 tower where you break those hearts until I'm a high enough level to max out Public games for Act 4.

I didn't have issues untill Hell Act 2. Upgraded weapons to what I can afford. I play with my friends with thier wizards and DH's and it's just embaressing. I can't even get to the mobs before they die. Just depressing. Melee is so gimped later into the difficulties. I hardly play anymore, just deflated my D3 balloon lol.

[Androidpk]

Found my first legendary item in Inferno off of the jailer in act 1. Twohanded sword so I was pretty excited, until I ID'd that shit and got something with mediocre stats and 300 dps.

[g++]

Found my first legendary item in Inferno off of the jailer in act 1. Twohanded sword so I was pretty excited, until I ID'd that shit and got something with mediocre stats and 300 dps.

I can beat that, got a dagger legendary off Khuul that had I wanna say 180 dps and level 60 required. At least you get a fiery brimstone heh.

[Androidpk]

Nah, I sold it in the AH for 10k

[Warriorbird]

I didn't have issues untill Hell Act 2. Upgraded weapons to what I can afford. I play with my friends with thier wizards and DH's and it's just embaressing. I can't even get to the mobs before they die. Just depressing. Melee is so gimped later into the difficulties. I hardly play anymore, just deflated my D3 balloon lol.

Cheap blues are your friend.

[Gizmo]

I gave up trying to work past Inferno on the Barb for now, it's just too annoying for me...

So I've opted to farm gold. I'm pulling in about 100k every 30-40mins on Act 1, that's good enough for me.

[Fallen]

How far have you gotten in HC?

Act 3 Nightmare.

[Drew]

Is there an easy way to screen cap your items? I want to show my unique.

[subzero]

Yeah, you press PrintScreen and it tosses a screenshot in your docs folder somewhere.

[Gizmo]

Is there an easy way to screen cap your items? I want to show my unique.

SYSRQ Button is Default for Screenshots in Diablo.

Use that, and there should be a screenshot folder in your Diablo folder.

What I tend to do is crop out the item details itself, then paste it into paint and make that a new file and link/upload just that for people to look at.

Side note: Nevermind, found one shortly after on a boss. They are classified as "Other" with gems :(

[g++]

Nah, I sold it in the AH for 10k

Not too rain on your parade or anything but the dude who bought it prolly immediately salvaged it and listed the brimstone for 30k. The moving price is 25k so their worth about 30-35 each.

[Androidpk]

Maybe but that doesn't bug me any.

[Marl]

got 2 60s in sc moving onto hc for awhile

had way too many close calls on my hc dh...had to slow down, lvl 35 a1 nm

[Fallen]

I'm pretty burned out with D3 about 100 hours in ATM. Think i'm going to pick up Max Payne then possibly come back afterwards.

[Androidpk]

Likewise. I had originally intended to at least beat Inferno but I moved into act 2 and kept getting one shotted by white mobs and immediately lost all interest. Farming for days and playing the AH just so I can get the gear to progress doesn't appeal to me.

[Drisco]

Likewise. I had originally intended to at least beat Inferno but I moved into act 2 and kept getting one shotted by white mobs and immediately lost all interest. Farming for days and playing the AH just so I can get the gear to progress doesn't appeal to me.

Exactly. It needs some sort of end game fun that makes getting better gear fun. I know it's totally a WoW thing but I would love some Capture the Flag or some battleground thing.

[Fallen]

Exactly. It needs some sort of end game fun that makes getting better gear fun. I know it's totally a WoW thing but I would love some Capture the Flag or some battleground thing.

PvP arena is coming, but eh. Maybe if they reward you with good gear that would add some fun. Not my cup of tea, but definitely something to which most could look forward.

[Atlanteax]

PvP arena is coming, but eh. Maybe if they reward you with good gear that would add some fun. Not my cup of tea, but definitely something to which most could look forward.

Hopefully it is not players one-shotting each other, heh.

[TheEschaton]

I'll be playing the guild wars 2 beta this weekend, I need a break as well.

[Gizmo]

Exactly. It needs some sort of end game fun that makes getting better gear fun. I know it's totally a WoW thing but I would love some Capture the Flag or some battleground thing.

IMO, the true end game of Diablo is Hardcore.

I perceive it as being pretty much the end of the end...I mean, if you can basically have a level 60 character without ANY fear of losing him ever to death, that's pretty much the end there for me. One reason I look forward to HC, eventually some people will have crazy geared toons in HC and that's what I'll aim for once I get stuff here up and situated.

For now, I play SC to learn about the game more and everything else. Eventually I'll phase out Softcore unless I log in it for streaming and do hand outs/chests/goblins for viewers

[Gizmo]

Here's a good read too from a Dev about Ranged vs. Melee now and later.


I'll state up front that I do think there's a disparity between melee and ranged, and I would like to see that closed. I feel like if I talk a lot about thought processes and design philosophy and don't state this up front people will lose the forest for the trees and conclude we think everything is fine. So I'll say it again: melee vs. ranged disparity is not fine, changes are being made, and even if you disagree with the approach outlined below we can hopefully have the common ground that the current situation needs improvement.

It may not look like it on the surface, but a large number of the changes in 1.0.3 are actually targeted at closing the melee/ranged gap. Let me go through some of them.

Hardcore
I'm going to use Hardcore as a starting point. In Hardcore, there's actually a reasonable distribution of classes, and I don't think the melee vs. ranged disparity is as large. There are a lot of Hardcore players of every class in Inferno without a huge disparity. Why is this important? It's because a significant portion of the melee/ranged disparity is related to a ranged character's ability to progress even while dying. A melee player can throw themselves at a monster and die, doing almost no damage to an elite enemy. A ranged player can do a huge amount of damage to an elite enemy, die, respawn, and basically attrition the enemy down with repeated deaths. In the Hardcore environment where a single bad Mortar, Vortex, Jailer, or Reflects Damage will kill a glass cannon-ranged character, the disparity between ranged and melee is an order of magnitude less.

Repair Costs
One of the more controversial changes in 1.0.3 is the increased repair costs. The design intent of these increased repair costs is to make death more meaningful. One of the top arguments we see against the increased repair costs is "I'm already dying dozens of times to make any progress in Inferno. Don't you see this is going to make this impossible?" This concern is most often brought up by ranged glass cannons. Many melee players respond "increased repair costs seem fine" because they haven't been using death-zerging as a tactic. Melee can't easily death-zerg an enemy down, but ranged can. I don't think the answer is to make death-zerging more attractive for melee; I'd rather make death-zerging a less profitable strategy for ranged.

Enemy Health and Damage
We're also looking to adjust the damage and health of enemies in Inferno Acts II, III, and IV. This is another change that is primarily for melee with secondary benefits for ranged. A lot of ranged are building glass cannon with the mentality "well, I'll just try not to get hit at all." So, reducing incoming damage when they weren't taking any before isn't significant for them, whereas reducing incoming damage for the melee is a big deal. For the ranged classes, I'm hoping that the incoming damage reduction will make some survival stats more appealing to ranged classes. While before the damage was so large it just felt pointless to try and mitigate any of it at all, after the change hopefully ranged classes will think "well, if I just put on a modest amount of survivability, I don't get 1-shot, so that's worth it." There are some ranged players who are already doing this -- stacking survivability so they don’t have to endlessly kite -- and it just feels like the minimum amount of survivability to avoid the 1-shot is so large it's unattainable. That's one of the things 1.0.3 seeks to address.

Damage Reduction in Co-op
Another change which is targeted at improving life for melee is the reduction in co-op damage. Again, since many ranged players just build glass cannon and avoid damage completely, they didn't really care if incoming damage went up as other players entered the game, but the melee characters really noticed. It was very easy for your life-on-hit to have you at a steady equilibrium, but as soon as another player entered the game your life-on-hit was no longer covering the incoming damage and death became imminent.

Additional Changes
And finally, there are always minor polish adjustments designed to help melee -- such as the AI on some monsters (BEES!!!) being tweaked to run away less often, which again helps melee more than ranged. I actually spent some extra time the other day to make sure if a Sand Wasp runs away from you, and you start chasing the wasp, it doesn't turn and shoot 4 bees in your face (hopefully that makes 1.0.3). I'm also working with one of our gameplay engineers to make it so if you sidestep the Dark Berserker’s power hit (where he brings his giant mace down), he doesn’t turn to track you as he swings (though that change probably won't make 1.0.3). These kind of AI adjustments are things ranged players don’t even notice, but are huge for melee.

Another adjustment being made is increasing both the maximum range and the dead zone of Mortar. Mortar was specifically designed to be an anti-range affix, but many ranged players would just stand even farther away, whereas melee would sometimes get caught in the cross-fire of two Mortars. Increasing the maximum range and the dead zone helps with both of these.

[SpiffyJr]

Well, at least they know melee gets train wrecked. I've basically quit playing (though some of that is due to work).

[Gizmo]

Well, at least they know melee gets train wrecked. I've basically quit playing (though some of that is due to work).

Yeah, just been farming gold. But 1.03 isn't too far away, 3-4 weeks hopefully!

[Gizmo]

So, am I pretty much still the only one playing this game?

The bugs that cropped up this weekend are literally absurd haha, it's retarded at how Blizzard really messed this release up.

Although, with everyone duping items, rolling back server saves etc I still somehow play. I guess I still enjoy the game even if alot of others ruined it/exploited the hell out of it all at this point

[iJin]

All my friends have gotten bored of it, or have moved back to TOR. I, on the other hand, am waiting for the Dawnguard DLC this month. Woo!

[Androidpk]

What bugs popped up?

[Some Rogue]

Still playing. Working on a barb right now.

[subzero]

Finally hit 60 last night. Rakanoth (hell) took a shit on me and told me that I should get some better armor, so it looks like I'm farmin some gold for a bit.

[Gizmo]

What bugs popped up?

The crazy Asians basically found a way to dupe items.

You could also say the "Cancel An Auction" bug was an exploit like some do, but it was coming by patch anyways....Just so happens people figured out a really easy and dumb way to glitch D3 so you can cancel auctions now, before the patch heh.

but the biggest thing is the Item Dupe over on Asia and likely now US thanks to shared videos. One reason Blizzard took down Asia servers, and supposedly the Korean Government is actually involved with shit now over there from what I somewhat read.

I've gotten bored of playing right now since I know I have a MUCH better PC on the way, and I don't wanna really play now until it does come. It sucks since like you know you can experience gaming again the best way possible, but have to wait still a few days to do so.

But once my PC does come, I intend on streaming alot as well, both D3 and other games. When I do D3, I intend on creating a whole new Barb using nothing but 2 weapons and seeing how far I can get without using the AH either unless selling items I find.