Diablo III

[Some Rogue]

I've made nightmare version. Working on getting the gold to make hell version. Loot was kinda meh so far.

[Parkbandit]

5800 health is only 2k less than what my wizard has at level 50, lol. You need to catch up btw, I'm too far behind Nekk and Pjaay to do Hell with them and Anticor tends to fall asleep around 9.

Oh wait, you probably do too.

Bitch please... I can stay up until midnight most nights!

if I take a 2 hour nap

[subzero]

Is it possible to find the mats for the staff of herding prior to looting the pattern?

[Stretch]

I just finished Nightmare with my monk. I have shite gear because I spent a retarded amount of gold upgrading the blacksmith and gem guy. I can't decide if I want to crank out the last eight levels on the monk, or try wizard or witch doctor.

On an unrelated note, am I the only one that trolls the auction house looking for things with EXP bonuses? I think I get an extra 250-300 + 15% per kill right now. I have no clue how much that actually speeds things up.

[Liagala]

You need to catch up btw, I'm too far behind Nekk and Pjaay to do Hell with them
What level? My wizard is 37, just about finished with Act 1 Nightmare. I could be a further, but I started slacking to bring other classes up through normal mode.

[TheEschaton]

Level 51, just finished Nightmare as well. About in the same boat as Stretch.

[Glitch]

I gotta stick with a class. I keep switching around and trying different ones out, only just finished act I nightmare with a wizard when I switched to barbarian, about to finish act III normal...

[Buckwheet]

So I just hit 37 on my mage. I have not even gotten close to Act 1 on Nightmare completed. I have 2500 health, 2k DPS. I found farming Azmodan in normal brought in about 20k XP in 3 minutes.

Is there anything else you can do to make Nightmare easier or a better way to farm xp/money other than Azmodan?

[SHAFT]

So I just hit 37 on my mage. I have not even gotten close to Act 1 on Nightmare completed. I have 2500 health, 2k DPS. I found farming Azmodan in normal brought in about 20k XP in 3 minutes.

Is there anything else you can do to make Nightmare easier or a better way to farm xp/money other than Azmodan?

Nightmare is easy. I'm at 1100 dps and almost done with act 2 nightmare. It's starting to get harder though

Lvl 40 dh, 9k health and 1100 dps

[subzero]

I actually ran into a little bit of good luck. Picked up the liquid rainbow and landed a decent legendary for me witch doctor in the same cave:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5188/newmask.jpg

[TheEschaton]

I'm so tired of farming liquid rainbow, fucking cave has spawned twice in like, 30 attempts.

[Xzean]

Good stats on that, grats.

[SpiffyJr]

Almost done with A1 Inferno and it's been pretty fucking easy. My problem is I can't kill Butcher before the entire room lights on fire so I think I need a bit more damage. Currently sitting at 11k+ damage and when I pop my blind I get ~3 seconds at 15k.

Grr. I'll get him eventually but I refuse to do it without 5 stacks of magic find.

[g++]

Went through actI inferno in a sitting. Had to park 1 pack and walk around it but aside from that full cleared. 20k dps, 23k health. Walked into act 2 and got one shot by a white mob. Well trolled blizzard.

So gonna be doing butcher runs for a few weeks I guess.

[TheEschaton]

FUCKING FINALLY GOT IT AFTER THREE HOURS, GODDAMN YOU LIQUID RAINBOW

[TheEschaton]

And got the gibbering gemstone in less than 20 minutes, 3rd run of the dungeon (4th run of the fields to find if it popped).

[AMUSED1]

So I just hit 37 on my mage. I have not even gotten close to Act 1 on Nightmare completed. I have 2500 health, 2k DPS. I found farming Azmodan in normal brought in about 20k XP in 3 minutes.

Is there anything else you can do to make Nightmare easier or a better way to farm xp/money other than Azmodan?

If you want to level to 60 fast I found that doing the very first quest in Act 1 of Hell was the quickest. It takes 2.5m experience to go from 59 to 60. Act 1 of Hell I was getting 16k experience for the "bonus" of the first quest and then another 44k from the quest itself. And whatever change was left over from killing everything to the graveyard with the boss. So in 4 minutes or less it was 70k xp. Which is a lot, imo! Without any risk.

[g++]

So did my second full butcher run of the night. Cleared 5 elites in the chapels for the buff then cleared all of upper highlands and the entirety of halls of agony plus the butcher. Went through about 30 rares and not one upgrade. Putzing around with a 5 stack of the buff in the area around tristal I kick a barrel and find a blue ring with +15% attack speed that gave me a 2k dps upgrade. This games loot tables make so much sense.

[Kuyuk]

LOL

[Deathravin]

I'm finding that I want left click without holding shift (I changed shift to space bar) to be move, regardless of if I click on a mob. Half of the time when I want to move, I click on a mob and start shooting instead of moving - and that's not something I want.

Does anybody know of any way to make it so left click will always be move unless I'm holding shift?

[Tgo01]

Does anybody know of any way to make it so left click will always be move unless I'm holding shift?

I don't think there is a way, looks like left click is always attack/skill/whatever and you can't bind it to anything else. What I did though was bind spacebar to the "move" command and when I know I want to move and not attack (like I'm standing in fire or getting my ass kicked) I'll just hold down spacebar and that will move me.

[g++]

http://www.twitch.tv/kungentv

streaming inferno hard core mode

[Loyrl]

Been watching kungen for a week or so, started watching when he started A1 hell. He has had to farm a shit ton, and hes pretty much always on. He farmed diablo hell and was getting shit drops, so they went to farm A1 inferno goblin in the first quest cellar, then he joined up for a few others and farmed it a lot more, each one going to a different game looking for a goblin, then joining after the room was clear and the goblin was alone. Now they just started progressing A1 inferno.

He got rich real fast just selling stuff cheap, wish I was on the EU servers so I could grab some cheap gear from him.

Jesus he has 10k viewers now, that's pretty crazy imo, not sure what is high, I usually don't watch other people play games.

[Sean of the Thread]

I will find more epic items and adventure on Hell level so it says.

[Deathravin]

Holy shit. That's insane. See how long it takes to kill anything? And none of them even get hurt anymore.

*edit* Okay, I just saw them almost wipe on a group of Vortex + Jailer + Desecrate skeletons. That was insane.

[Sean of the Thread]

Yeah I just watched a bit of that. Normal crap mobs are like 130k health.

They had an oh shit moment when I watched tho all on cool downs almost wiped a couple times but not really. Are they playing hardcore?

[Deathravin]

Yup. Inferno Hardcore.

This is like watching a whole different game. - How Dirge has lasted this long I'll never know.

[Loyrl]

I don't know either, and his jokes are funny / lame.

[Sean of the Thread]

I've just hit hell and found nightmare incredibly easy. So far only tooned with Alfster from the pc.

I'll be starting hell tonight if anyone wants to toon up.

[Tgo01]

What do you guys do with the rares/magics you don't want and don't auction? I was salvaging it all for a while but it costs so much gold to make anything I ended up with almost an entire tab in my stash full of mats. I've been selling everything to the merchant lately, most stuff fetches between 500 and 2000 gold each. The commodity auction house is never up, is it better to salvage stuff and sell it on the AH?

[Deathravin]

I pick up everything and sell the non-magical and salvage magical. Then when my blacksmith & jeweler are leveled as high as they can go for that difficulty, stop picking up whites. I never have a problem with gold after that. And I usually just craft until I run out of money or get ideal items.

[Tgo01]

And I usually just craft until I run out of money or get ideal items.

Do you ever get anything good by crafting? It seems I was just spending 20-40k a pop to make things that I ended up wanting to salvage anyways then I would go over to the AH and find things that I actually wanted for 100k or so.

[Loyrl]

I check the AH first (which is usually over priced on HC) and then I go crafting. Seems like I find better low level shit than higher items so a lot of my gear is from the 20's.

[Deathravin]

It probably takes crafting each thing 5-10 times before I find something I want.

[Buckwheet]

Well did some Ah play and ended up with 10k health 4k DPS at level 41 on my mage.

Nightmare is ez mode now.

[subzero]

I'm so tired of farming liquid rainbow, fucking cave has spawned twice in like, 30 attempts.

I'll probably get screwed trying to find the rest of the stuff, but this one I only cleared the map on three times (1x normal, 2x nm); no cave on normal run, then the two nm runs it was there. Second cave had the rainbow, which I really wasn't even farming for >.>


Good stats on that, grats.

Thanks, yeah I was happy to see the life regen on that mostly. The other stuff is a decent bonus, though. When I started nightmare, I went and picked up a couple lps items on the AH after barely getting beat a couple times by the first champion pack I ran into. I started getting past the oasis last night in act II and had been getting beat on pretty good. I think it might be time to find some replacements for the < lvl 15 rings and neck.

[Xzean]

I was pretty disappointed with my WD, so I went and got my mage up to his level. Pretty boring, switched back.

If you outlevel that mask I'd love to buy it off you.

[subzero]

Well did some Ah play and ended up with 10k health 4k DPS at level 41 on my mage.

Nightmare is ez mode now.

Heh, thats like cheating compared to what I'm rockin at 45... ~5800 health and 871 damage.


I was pretty disappointed with my WD, so I went and got my mage up to his level. Pretty boring, switched back.

If you outlevel that mask I'd love to buy it off you.

Alright, I'll keep ya in mind when it's time to shelve it.

[Geijon Khyree]

Wizards are tough. Decimate on the damage spectrum. Monk and Barbarian are my next classes.

I have passes left if people need them also.

[Deathravin]

I'm level 26 Hardcore Hunter on Normal Act 2... I got on a game with other people and discovered I may have overdone my build slightly.

3400 health from 300 VIT and far too much armor. I guess I've been overly cautious. But oh well....

[Warriorbird]

I'm level 26 Hardcore Hunter on Normal Act 2... I got on a game with other people and discovered I may have overdone my build slightly.

3400 health from 300 VIT and far too much armor. I guess I've been overly cautious. But oh well....

Those people will cry later.

[TheEschaton]

I'm sitting around 12k HP and 4k DPS at 52. I feel like my DPS is pretty low, and my health is middling. Meh.

[Tgo01]

I'm really not having fun anymore. I didn't mind the steep curve in difficulty from Act 4 hell to Act 1 Inferno but Act 2 Inferno is just stupid. It's not really a "challenge" so much as it is "hey, get 90% resists or get ready to run, a lot."

I read up on the Witch Doctor forums and apparently the main Inferno build is stack up on damage boosting items, use poison darts and keep running while whittling things down and don't get hit, ever.

I remember hell in D2 being hard as well but it wasn't this silly.

[TheEschaton]

So, arcane enchanted + jailer + waller = awful. Get stuck in a corner, jailed, and then wait while some beam cuts you in half.

[Xzean]

Since they didn't fully test Inferno by their own admission, I imagine tweaks/nerfs to it coming soon.

[Xzean]

So, arcane enchanted + jailer + waller = awful. Get stuck in a corner, jailed, and then wait while some beam cuts you in half.

Arcane enchanted, jailer, horde. Instant death.

[Seran]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has trouble with arcane enchanters. I really think they aught to keep those mobs from vortexing, or having the jailer ability.

[Some Rogue]

Finally got to the Skeleton King on Inferno and then proceeded to one shot him. Sucks that my 5 stack of Nephalem Valor dropped during the middle of the fight. Not looking forward to the rest of act 1.

[Fallen]

I'm still on Act 2 Normal. I play every section at least 2-3 times. Heh, I will never catch up to you guys.

[Deathravin]

Saw a hardcore level 22 monk die today. Felt really bad.

We were on Act 2 final boss - He stayed to see if me and our warrior would die, but we weren't ever in too much danger.

[Drisco]

I'm really not having fun anymore. I didn't mind the steep curve in difficulty from Act 4 hell to Act 1 Inferno but Act 2 Inferno is just stupid. It's not really a "challenge" so much as it is "hey, get 90% resists or get ready to run, a lot."

I read up on the Witch Doctor forums and apparently the main Inferno build is stack up on damage boosting items, use poison darts and keep running while whittling things down and don't get hit, ever.

I remember hell in D2 being hard as well but it wasn't this silly.


Same, Act 2 Inferno is just stupid. I'm kind of fed up with the game tbh. With the Loot/Aggro table as fucked up as it is and the fact that I'm playing a DH. Really the only way to play a DH is to have mobs outside my view and just spam shoot, hoping I'm hitting them and they are dying.

[Gizmo]

I'm still on Act 2 Normal. I play every section at least 2-3 times. Heh, I will never catch up to you guys.

If you are ever on and need a partner, let me know. I still have to make some alts so I can easily catch up to you in a day then roll with ya

[SpiffyJr]

Same, Act 2 Inferno is just stupid. I'm kind of fed up with the game tbh. With the Loot/Aggro table as fucked up as it is and the fact that I'm playing a DH. Really the only way to play a DH is to have mobs outside my view and just spam shoot, hoping I'm hitting them and they are dying.

Loot and "aggro" doesn't seem any different than D2.

[Androidpk]

The loot table does seem pretty odd at times. Within a 5 minute period I found the following items in order: A cracked two hand sword, a two hand sword, a solid two hand sword, a masterful two hand sword, and then a blue quality magic two hand sword.

[Tgo01]

Loot and "aggro" doesn't seem any different than D2.

I know everything is RNG in Diablo games but if I completed the entire game in Diablo 2, Acts 1 through 4, normal through hell I would have found some set items and uniques. They might not have been what I needed but they were there. I've gone through the entire game and ran Act 1 Inferno about a dozen times and found 1 legendary total, and it was worse than shit I was finding in Hell Act 4. Not only that but to my knowledge set items don't even drop in D3, they're all crafted.

[Marine-dow]

I expected more out of this game. 7/10

[Gizmo]

I know everything is RNG in Diablo games but if I completed the entire game in Diablo 2, Acts 1 through 4, normal through hell I would have found some set items and uniques. They might not have been what I needed but they were there. I've gone through the entire game and ran Act 1 Inferno about a dozen times and found 1 legendary total, and it was worse than shit I was finding in Hell Act 4. Not only that but to my knowledge set items don't even drop in D3, they're all crafted.

if it makes you feel any better, I just found my 4th Legendary Item tonight.

Was a DH Armor/Cloak, level 56.

[Tgo01]

if it makes you feel any better, I just found my 4th Legendary Item tonight.

Was a DH Armor/Cloak, level 56.

Is it any good?

[subzero]

I know everything is RNG in Diablo games but if I completed the entire game in Diablo 2, Acts 1 through 4, normal through hell I would have found some set items and uniques. They might not have been what I needed but they were there. I've gone through the entire game and ran Act 1 Inferno about a dozen times and found 1 legendary total, and it was worse than shit I was finding in Hell Act 4. Not only that but to my knowledge set items don't even drop in D3, they're all crafted.

That kinda sucks about the set items if that is the case. As far as the random stuff goes, I'm wondering if they might have made things a little too loose when items gen with the thought being that there is always the AH to find upgrades on if they aren't actually dropping for you.

[Drew]

The people complaining about magic item drops seem to usually be the ones who are min/maxed and not itemized for magic find. It makes a huge difference (also being in a group is a big buff).

[Tgo01]

The people complaining about magic item drops seem to usually be the ones who are min/maxed and not itemized for magic find. It makes a huge difference (also being in a group is a big buff).

Yeah true, I'll admit I'm usually only rocking about 15-20% MF, but even when I have 5 nephlam valor stacks bringing my MF to almost 100% I still find shit. If I'm lucky 1 or 2 rares from rare/unique monsters, usually 2 and sometimes 3 rares from bosses. Rares are nice and all but I'll admit I miss actually seeing uniques (legendaries) and set pieces drop.

[Back]

Yeah true, I'll admit I'm usually only rocking about 15-20% MF, but even when I have 5 nephlam valor stacks bringing my MF to almost 100% I still find shit. If I'm lucky 1 or 2 rares from rare/unique monsters, usually 2 and sometimes 3 rares from bosses. Rares are nice and all but I'll admit I miss actually seeing uniques (legendaries) and set pieces drop.

This may just mean you have a natural massive suck aura and there is nothing you can do about it.

[Warriorbird]

Yeah true, I'll admit I'm usually only rocking about 15-20% MF, but even when I have 5 nephlam valor stacks bringing my MF to almost 100% I still find shit. If I'm lucky 1 or 2 rares from rare/unique monsters, usually 2 and sometimes 3 rares from bosses. Rares are nice and all but I'll admit I miss actually seeing uniques (legendaries) and set pieces drop.

I've heard it claimed that if you're running a full NV stack, that it ignores any additional magic find. Soloing, we're always gonna do worse than groups though.

[Tgo01]

This may just mean you have a natural massive suck aura and there is nothing you can do about it.

Well you are an expert on such things so I'll take your word for it.

[Warriorbird]

Yeah true, I'll admit I'm usually only rocking about 15-20% MF, but even when I have 5 nephlam valor stacks bringing my MF to almost 100% I still find shit. If I'm lucky 1 or 2 rares from rare/unique monsters, usually 2 and sometimes 3 rares from bosses. Rares are nice and all but I'll admit I miss actually seeing uniques (legendaries) and set pieces drop.

Some data from some math guys. I bet our math guys are superior.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/u6e2p/nephalem_valor_some_data_on_boss_drop_rates/

[TheEschaton]

I still think it sucks that NV valor resets if you switch a spell. Am I really supposed to use the same build to down elite packs that I do to kill the bosses?

[Drisco]

What do you guys think of the patch they are implementing?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6018173/Game_Design_Update-5_28_2012#blog

I do like that they addressed the spikiness of the damage being dealt in Inferno.

[Gizmo]

Is it any good?

I'll post a pic or two of my legendary items I found thus far.

Found some decent pants too before I think, although if I recall the armor isn't SUPERB, but it's not bad either.

And yes, set items aren't drops in D3, just the recipe pages are to craft them. You have to find a recipe and learn it, from my understanding...And they apparently seem SUPER rare

[Gizmo]

The people complaining about magic item drops seem to usually be the ones who are min/maxed and not itemized for magic find. It makes a huge difference (also being in a group is a big buff).

Not necessarily.

I have 0 magic find items, well at least I didn't make sure I wear any for instance, maybe I am but if I am, I have no idea heh.

That and I've been solo playing this entire time, without groups and have had good luck with item drops.

Found a few good blues, rares and some legendary doing it all just as I have been.

While I'm sure it's easier to find items in a group, I wouldn't say it's a huge difference...not from my perspective still at least

[Some Rogue]

Inferno tactics video

http://youtu.be/PEyk63UaBI4

[SpiffyJr]

I know everything is RNG in Diablo games but if I completed the entire game in Diablo 2, Acts 1 through 4, normal through hell I would have found some set items and uniques. They might not have been what I needed but they were there. I've gone through the entire game and ran Act 1 Inferno about a dozen times and found 1 legendary total, and it was worse than shit I was finding in Hell Act 4. Not only that but to my knowledge set items don't even drop in D3, they're all crafted.

I've gone through Act 1 Inferno 20+ times and haven't found a legendary at all. That said, it doesn't really matter, the majority of your items will come from rare's. They may have reduced the drop rate of legendaries but it also seems like there are far less than there were in D2 in general.

[SpiffyJr]

Yeah true, I'll admit I'm usually only rocking about 15-20% MF, but even when I have 5 nephlam valor stacks bringing my MF to almost 100% I still find shit. If I'm lucky 1 or 2 rares from rare/unique monsters, usually 2 and sometimes 3 rares from bosses. Rares are nice and all but I'll admit I miss actually seeing uniques (legendaries) and set pieces drop.

I sit at ~ 150% MF with the 5 stacks and I find an upgrade or, at the very least, a sidegrade, on every single Act 1 inferno run.

[Gizmo]

I sit at ~ 150% MF with the 5 stacks and I find an upgrade or, at the very least, a sidegrade, on every single Act 1 inferno run.

Have you found any Tome of Secrets or Blacksmith/Jeweler item plans in Inferno?

Reason I ask is I'm curious myself if it's possible to find them there.

Not in Inferno yet, only Act 2....But I am in need of Tome of Secrets now to level up my blacksmithing...So if anyone has like 30 to spare that would be awesome.

[SpiffyJr]

Have you found any Tome of Secrets or Blacksmith/Jeweler item plans in Inferno?

Reason I ask is I'm curious myself if it's possible to find them there.

Not in Inferno yet, only Act 2....But I am in need of Tome of Secrets now to level up my blacksmithing...So if anyone has like 30 to spare that would be awesome.

I've got 100+ tomes of secret (used in bsmith + jewel at inferno) sitting in my bank. I don't have enough mats, gold, or the levels (need 5 more tomes of blacksmithing and I'm too lazy to go back to Hell) to use them.

[Gizmo]

I've got 100+ tomes of secret (used in bsmith + jewel at inferno) sitting in my bank. I don't have enough mats, gold, or the levels (need 5 more tomes of blacksmithing and I'm too lazy to go back to Hell) to use them.

Well, if you don't want those Tome of Secrets lemme know, my BS is sitting now at level 8 with one upgrade to 9, but I need those tomes from Inferno to do so, that of which I'm not in yet of course

[SpiffyJr]

Well, if you don't want those Tome of Secrets lemme know, my BS is sitting now at level 8 with one upgrade to 9, but I need those tomes from Inferno to do so, that of which I'm not in yet of course

I'll trade you tomes for books ;)

I think I need 5 more to complete my upgrades to using tomes.

[Tgo01]

I've gone through Act 1 Inferno 20+ times and haven't found a legendary at all. That said, it doesn't really matter, the majority of your items will come from rare's.

I think that's what people mean by the loot sucks, at least that's what I mean. I don't mind rares being upgrades but it bugs me that they are pretty much the only thing to shoot for in this game as far as drops.


I sit at ~ 150% MF with the 5 stacks and I find an upgrade or, at the very least, a sidegrade, on every single Act 1 inferno run.

Every single run? You don't sometimes just find weapons your character can't use or items with only things like thorns, life regen and physical resistance? I don't mean to sound like a sarcastic ass, maybe I just spoiled myself with the AH but upgrades were few and far between for me on Act 1. But what really gets me is none of that even matters apparently for a Witch Doctor because the only "upgrades" needed for Act 2 and beyond is stacking intelligence and getting a weapon with a lot of damage and since you can buy a weapon twice as good as anything found in act 1 for less than 100k on the AH it really gets stupid. I've read about Witch Doctors doing Act 4 inferno with 15k life and just trying to avoid getting hit altogether because apparently the damage is so great that it's pointless to even try to mitigate it with resistances or stack vitality.

[SpiffyJr]

I think that's what people mean by the loot sucks, at least that's what I mean. I don't mind rares being upgrades but it bugs me that they are pretty much the only thing to shoot for in this game as far as drops.


I don't know if you played Diablo II or not but legendaries are nothing more than renamed uniques from Diablo II. They're not akin to legendaries in WoW which I think a lot of people falsely (Blizzard's fault) assume. Legendaries in Diablo are nothing more than items that are guaranteed to have certain types of statistics. They're basically rare's with a few stats that are guaranteed to be there and even those fixed stats are randomly generated and can be good or bad. You may run around with a few (and probably less) legendaries/set items but the majority of your gear will always be from lucky random generated rare's. That's the way Diablo works and, love it or hate it, I don't see it changing.



Every single run? You don't sometimes just find weapons your character can't use or items with only things like thorns, life regen and physical resistance? I don't mean to sound like a sarcastic ass, maybe I just spoiled myself with the AH but upgrades were few and far between for me on Act 1. But what really gets me is none of that even matters apparently for a Witch Doctor because the only "upgrades" needed for Act 2 and beyond is stacking intelligence and getting a weapon with a lot of damage and since you can buy a weapon twice as good as anything found in act 1 for less than 100k on the AH it really gets stupid. I've read about Witch Doctors doing Act 4 inferno with 15k life and just trying to avoid getting hit altogether because apparently the damage is so great that it's pointless to even try to mitigate it with resistances or stack vitality.

I didn't buy a single item from the AH so maybe my view is skewed. Also, I only play one character - Monk, and I duo with a Barbarian. For the record, I would not recommend double melee in Inferno - it's a pain in the ass.

To answer your question, yes, every single run of Inferno has gotten me some sort of upgrade. My friend and I do share items though so technically we have a larger pull per run to pull from. I did three runs last night and got another 1her (so now I can dual wield again), a ring, boots, bracers, and a belt.

[Gizmo]

I'll trade you tomes for books ;)

I think I need 5 more to complete my upgrades to using tomes.

I can do that.

Just hit me up when the servers are all back up eventually.

Pretty sure I have more than 5 Books of BS on me. I'm after the Tome of Secrets myself. since I wanna hit 10 and be done with it, so later I can focus on stocking up on shit once I miraculously hit Inferno lol

[Tgo01]

I don't know if you played Diablo II or not but legendaries are nothing more than renamed uniques from Diablo II. They're not akin to legendaries in WoW which I think a lot of people falsely (Blizzard's fault) assume.

Yes legendaries are uniques from D2 but they were upgrades to look forward to. Of course the low level ones were shit at end game but off the top of my head I can still name The Stone of Jordan and The Grandfather as uniques that people wanted.

[g++]

I did about half of ACTII inferno last night. Probably went full red 6 times but Im up to Khuuls quests and I actually had a 5 stack neph buff for most of it. So farming does actually push the story along, 38k hps, 27k dps wizard. The funny thing is the difficulty of actII seems to go backward, as soon as you get out of the first part full of wasps and laconi's things become more managable.

[Gizmo]

I did about half of ACTII inferno last night. Probably went full red 6 times but Im up to Khuuls quests and I actually had a 5 stack neph buff for most of it. So farming does actually push the story along, 38k hps, 27k dps wizard. The funny thing is the difficulty of actII seems to go backward, as soon as you get out of the first part full of wasps and laconi's things become more managable.

Yeah, those fucking wasps are a bitch, more so when you get a champion pack of them who are fast/teleporting/etc...

Ran into some on Hell last night and proceeded to leave game heh

[Marl]

legendaries and sets are getting a huge buff it seems with the pvp patch.
btw I have found 8 legendaries all on my first playthrough and grinding to 60. None since 60 and no sets

what is everyones (lvl 60) stats?

my wiz is sitting a 35k life and 25k dps, still farming a1 and hell ponies for res gear. only around 250 res without prismatic shield. From what I have seen you need around 750 res to make a2+ somewhat enjoyable.

I am with spiffy where just about every warden/butcher run with 5 stack is giving me an upgrade.

All the crap the blacksmith gets though, some of my best upgrades have come from him even though the items cost a ton.
ex. shoulders
108 vit
149 int
15 mf
43 res all
350 life regen

[g++]

I have no where near 750 res, I think I have like 300. I mean I would love to have 750 but you would essentially need perfect gear int/vit/resist/resist all on every slot to achieve that. I certainly dont think its necessary for enjoyment, unless you enjoy standing in arcane sentries heh. I mean it would be great to have, but Im not going to farm butcher till I die of old age either.

[Androidpk]

So basically the end game consists of monotonous grinds for better loot.

[Gizmo]

legendaries and sets are getting a huge buff it seems with the pvp patch.
btw I have found 8 legendaries all on my first playthrough and grinding to 60. None since 60 and no sets

what is everyones (lvl 60) stats?

my wiz is sitting a 35k life and 25k dps, still farming a1 and hell ponies for res gear. only around 250 res without prismatic shield. From what I have seen you need around 750 res to make a2+ somewhat enjoyable.

I am with spiffy where just about every warden/butcher run with 5 stack is giving me an upgrade.

All the crap the blacksmith gets though, some of my best upgrades have come from him even though the items cost a ton.
ex. shoulders
108 vit
149 int
15 mf
43 res all
350 life regen

Yeah, keep in mind though the item buff isn't retro. Meaning, any and all legendary items found before the patch, won't be changed and will retain their same stats now.

So basically, everything you find now will stay as it is, and only until the patch and you find items post patch will be different :(

[g++]

I should fraps my next ACTII run with me screaming and cursing so you can see what a "monotonous grind" looks like. It involves alot of sweating and about 150 APM.

[Deathravin]

I've been watching the Inferno Hardcore Swedish guy and he's been doing gear runs...

Run into Old Talistrim, see if there's a den to the south of the waypoint. If there is, go in it check for a treasure goblin. If he's there, clear the room, call in 3 buddies who are doing the same thing. When the room is clear except for the goblin, switch to your MF gear, kill goblin, gather gear, switch back to your good gear.

TP, Leave game, resume game... if you have 4 people doing that it looked like there was a goblin every 4-5 minutes.

[Gizmo]

So basically the end game consists of monotonous grinds for better loot.

Pretty much. That and Hardcore/Arena PvP fun.

D3 isn't really the sort of game that is constantly progressing quickly. Once you beat it on Inferno, then well the only thing left to do is to play for the sake of "hoping" to find some items better than you have now and then eventually just PvP.

I myself am looking forward to doing Hardcore as well I think, once I get a new rig. I imagine that brings a bit more enjoyment out of it knowing that any encounter could be your last...So if you have a Hardcore character who is level 60, geared out to the gills I imagine it's quite the feat, more if you actually don't buy gear from the AH

[Androidpk]

Do they have set date for when they'll be releasing the arena PVP?

[Some Rogue]

I should fraps my next ACTII run with me screaming and cursing so you can see what a "monotonous grind" looks like. It involves alot of sweating and about 150 APM.

So you look like the kid in the video I linked?

You have inferno tactics down then.

[g++]

Yah pretty much. Running around in a circle around a venom hydra flinging arrows and blizzards everywhere. I essentially make note of staircases and arches so I can go back to them and kite through them to maximize poison damage. Only time I ever get to cast direct damage is when I have crystal shell rolling and even that is risky because two champ minions can two or three shot down my shell even glyphed for extra absorb.

So yah my strategy basically can be boiled down to fleeing in terror lol.

[SpiffyJr]

I can do that.

Just hit me up when the servers are all back up eventually.

Pretty sure I have more than 5 Books of BS on me. I'm after the Tome of Secrets myself. since I wanna hit 10 and be done with it, so later I can focus on stocking up on shit once I miraculously hit Inferno lol

I'll do a straight trade for how ever many books of bs I need. I think it's 5 but it may be 10.

[SpiffyJr]

Yes legendaries are uniques from D2 but they were upgrades to look forward to. Of course the low level ones were shit at end game but off the top of my head I can still name The Stone of Jordan and The Grandfather as uniques that people wanted.

There were a *few* upper end uniques to look forward to but the *vast* majority of geared people were in high-end rare items. The same holds true to D3.

[SpiffyJr]

legendaries and sets are getting a huge buff it seems with the pvp patch.
btw I have found 8 legendaries all on my first playthrough and grinding to 60. None since 60 and no sets

what is everyones (lvl 60) stats?

my wiz is sitting a 35k life and 25k dps, still farming a1 and hell ponies for res gear. only around 250 res without prismatic shield. From what I have seen you need around 750 res to make a2+ somewhat enjoyable.

I am with spiffy where just about every warden/butcher run with 5 stack is giving me an upgrade.

All the crap the blacksmith gets though, some of my best upgrades have come from him even though the items cost a ton.
ex. shoulders
108 vit
149 int
15 mf
43 res all
350 life regen

I've got Act 1 on EZMODE farm status with only:

59% armor, 42% dodge, 14k damage, 25k hp, 300+ to all resists (yay monk passive). I've got a long way to go until I can do A2 comfortably.

I use two one handed weapons with (http://d3db.com/tool/calculator/monk/25040). Sweeping winds hits for 3-5k full charged so it's nice passive DPS.

[Marl]

I have no where near 750 res, I think I have like 300. I mean I would love to have 750 but you would essentially need perfect gear int/vit/resist/resist all on every slot to achieve that. I certainly dont think its necessary for enjoyment, unless you enjoy standing in arcane sentries heh. I mean it would be great to have, but Im not going to farm butcher till I die of old age either.

I can do act 2 but it involves tons of kiting and running. At least on a1 i can take 4-5 hits and survive. A2 is one shot city for me. Resists helps with that i belive. A couple more pieces and i can do it i think

[Liagala]

I've found that if you drop a hydra around a corner or on the other side of a wall sometimes mobs will sit and attack your follower, or just plain get confused, and sit in poison while you wait perfectly safe on the other side of a wall. It's by no means a guarantee, but creative hydra placement can be awesome, especially if you can get it to drop over there without ever putting yourself in the demons' line of sight. This also works well with Waller champions/elites. They get caught in their own walls just as much as you do, so if you can set it up wtih mob+hydra on one side and you on the other, you get to sit there and laugh for a minute until the wall comes down.

The bit with the Waller champions may or may not stop being effective when they start picking up 2-3 more abilities than they have now (I'm in Nightmare).

[g++]

My follower has 50k hp's, on actII inferno he dies in under 3 seconds on every pull.

So yah its neat, but its another "enjoy it while it lasts" trick.

Looking for staircases and fat elites is a good way to easily pick up quick valor buffs for ranged too, just lock their fat asses on the stairs and cast hydra.

[Gizmo]

I'll do a straight trade for how ever many books of bs I need. I think it's 5 but it may be 10.

Sounds good.

[Liagala]

I was getting it to happen sometimes with no follower at all. If you can drop the hydra without them seeing you, sometimes you bug them out and they just stand around in poison. If they're blocked by a door or wall that they can shoot through (like the prison part in A1 where you have to release the 6 spirits before the Warden spawns), you can drop the hydra in with them and just hang out and wait. Sometimes for no apparently reason in places with lots of doorways (like the lower levels of the Keep in early A3), the AI just goes stupid and they run back and forth in the room they're in instead of coming through to where you are.

[g++]

Maintenance was extended to 4pm eastern

[Deathravin]

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5235400716



Javrius
85 Undead Priest
The Crimson Dusk
4905

And now all they hear are complaints. Did any of you people really play Diablo II, before the Lord of Destruction expansion?

They've been listening to players complain for years about how Uniques, Sets, and then Runewords made the game bland, because everyone was searching for and wearing the same items, and how it put such a final goal on the game. People have been asking for Blizzard to make high-rolled Rares better than Uniques for a long time. So that's what they did, and now people complain. What gives? Listening to the playerbase just seems like damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't.

People wanted Inferno to be hard. It was supposed to be an 'endgame' mode, something that would take months, if not years, to develop the skills and farm the gear to be able to beat it. That's what people asked for, that's what Blizzard delivered, and what do we hear? People expect to just cruise on through it, just equipping whatever they find on the first run like normal mode and beat it within a week.

People complained that the most efficient farming method in Diablo II was running bosses over and over, and that there was no reason to go explore the rest of the game. It was boring and repetitive, with little chance for what you wanted to drop, because you were looking for a specific item, and it had less than 0.01% chance to drop. So what does Blizzard do? Make random, challenging fights in random places through the game. Elite monsters and events, so you wouldn't get bored. And now people complain that scripted boss fights (while cool) should drop lots of good stuff every time you beat them? They want to just mindlessly farm the same thing for hours on end?

While you may disagree with the exact details on how Blizzard designed Diablo III or accomplished those goals, I don't see how anyone can complain that they haven't listened to their fans. If you've been paying any attention to the Diablo community over the past couple years, there should be no question as to why they did what they did: it's what people asked them to do.

[AnticorRifling]

Mal'Ganis is up. F you people.

[Some Rogue]

Maintenance was extended to 4pm eastern

WAT

[Gizmo]

WAT

Yeah, they extended it for database testing and expect it to be up at 1pm PST, or 4pm EST. Holla!

[Some Rogue]

LOL

I posted that because I was pissed....then went and tried to log in and got right in.

[Gizmo]

LOL

I posted that because I was pissed....then went and tried to log in and got right in.

Yeah, seems now the servers are up, just not the AH at the moment. Horray!

[Drew]

Not necessarily.

I have 0 magic find items, well at least I didn't make sure I wear any for instance, maybe I am but if I am, I have no idea heh.

That and I've been solo playing this entire time, without groups and have had good luck with item drops.

Found a few good blues, rares and some legendary doing it all just as I have been.

While I'm sure it's easier to find items in a group, I wouldn't say it's a huge difference...not from my perspective still at least


My group with everyone geared for at least 25% magic find found 4 legendaries in the space of 5 minutes.

[Loyrl]

Got to the spider queen in A1 Hell on my WD last night in a group of 4, those charging bulls can suck it after the skeleton king.

If anyone is playing hardcore my tag is Loyrl#1904. I have a 50 barb, 56 WD and a 30 DH that hasn't started NM yet.

[Androidpk]

I'm actually starting to see much better latency now, will probably pick it up in a day or so. How do you see what your tag is?

[Deathravin]

Ya, I have a 33 Hardcore DH on Act 4 Normal that I'm afraid to get into NM.

[Loyrl]

I forget if it says your tag when you log in, but I had to look on battle.net while logged in under account.

[SpiffyJr]

Just did a quick Butcher run with 139% (with 5 stacks) MF and found 3 upgrades.

A 1k damage upgrade on my weapon, a belt with MF, dex, vitality, fire resist, and all resist, as well as a shoulder piece with dex/vit + all resists. Now I'm up to 150%, yay!

[Gizmo]

I'm actually starting to see much better latency now, will probably pick it up in a day or so. How do you see what your tag is?

Open the Social Panel should tell you it as well, or Options > Social

[Gizmo]

Just did a quick Butcher run with 139% (with 5 stacks) MF and found 3 upgrades.

A 1k damage upgrade on my weapon, a belt with MF, dex, vitality, fire resist, and all resist, as well as a shoulder piece with dex/vit + all resists. Now I'm up to 150%, yay!

Add me bitch and let's swap those BS stuff! :P

Gizmo#1268

[Gizmo]

Also, here's an image of my legendary items thus far.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9019/legendaryi.png

[SHAFT]

Those pants are nice

[Gizmo]

Those pants are nice

I like the MC Hammer reference lol

[TheEschaton]

The demon hunter cloak seems pretty awesome. +13% attk speed would be a big dps boost I think.

[Drew]

Yeah definitely a nice item. That's in softcore I assume?

[Taernath]

This last patch really fucked my stuff up. 6 second chat delay (no ability lag though), achievements reset/not able to be earned, and now I can't log in. Anyone else?

[Some Rogue]

I was in game, logged out to look at the AH and then kept getting the Failed to create game error. Tried restarting the game and now it's stuck on Retrieving Hero list.

[Gizmo]

I was in game, logged out to look at the AH and then kept getting the Failed to create game error. Tried restarting the game and now it's stuck on Retrieving Hero list.

They had to take the server down about 10 mins ago which is why you can't get in now

[Gizmo]

Yeah definitely a nice item. That's in softcore I assume?

Yup, haven't bothered with Hardcore yet until I get a new rig.

No point in doing it since I know I'll die on my laptop otherwise

[Stretch]

The rage on the forums is fun to read. Maybe more fun than the actual game.

[Gizmo]

The rage on the forums is fun to read. Maybe more fun than the actual game.

haha yeah, people can't fucking read at all on those forums about anything apparently.

[TheEschaton]

I can't even get in the game. It says there's a new patch, the game'll exit to DL it, and then it exits, restarts, and does nothing but say the game is up to date. Then, I log in again, and it says a new patch is available.

I've tried sorting through the forums but the kiddies make my head hurt and I haven't seen a real address of this issue. Any ideas?

[Tgo01]

They've been listening to players complain for years about how Uniques, Sets, and then Runewords made the game bland, because everyone was searching for and wearing the same items, and how it put such a final goal on the game. People have been asking for Blizzard to make high-rolled Rares better than Uniques for a long time. So that's what they did, and now people complain.

I have no problem with rares being better than uniques and sets, I'm just disappointed that rather than making uniques good, sets better and rares best they ended up making uniques crappy, sets decent and rares by far the best.


People wanted Inferno to be hard. It was supposed to be an 'endgame' mode, something that would take months, if not years, to develop the skills and farm the gear to be able to beat it.

I find it very hard to believe that people wanted it to take "years" to be able to beat this game on inferno.

[Gizmo]

I can't even get in the game. It says there's a new patch, the game'll exit to DL it, and then it exits, restarts, and does nothing but say the game is up to date. Then, I log in again, and it says a new patch is available.

I've tried sorting through the forums but the kiddies make my head hurt and I haven't seen a real address of this issue. Any ideas?

That was an issue earlier regarding the patch, where people were trying to DL it before the servers were back up.

I imagine you are getting it because you haven't been online earlier to DL the new patch while the servers were back, since now about 30mins ago they took them down for yet more maintence and thus are getting that error again (Since you never yet patched)

I patched it earlier, and just get the server down for maintenance message

[TheEschaton]

It seems I somehow downloaded the engGB client (global client) and they only put out a patch for engUS, the U.S. client, and that the rest of the world gets the patch tomorrow.

Awesome.

[Tgo01]

Is everyone still getting that maintenance message? This is getting kind of annoying now.

[g++]

The rage on the forums is fun to read. Maybe more fun than the actual game.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5271604629

[Warriorbird]

Still error 33ing it up. I'll take that sort of thing for longer if it brings Real Cash auctioning and commodities auctioning.

[Gizmo]

Still error 33ing it up. I'll take that sort of thing for longer if it brings Real Cash auctioning and commodities auctioning.

Real Cash is slated for 6/12 though.

They took these down unexpectedly, to resolve some issues with logins and such

[Gizmo]

Is everyone still getting that maintenance message? This is getting kind of annoying now.

And yes it is, especially when it's pouring rain out right now and there isn't much to do, although I could go watch a movie I suppose...I'm off all week too...Shoulda stayed at Stone Harbor instead

[SHAFT]

This online only shit is really irritating. Between this, lag, and dc'ing....

[Gizmo]

This online only shit is really irritating. Between this, lag, and dc'ing....

Yeah, I wouldn't be so annoyed if there was still offline play, since that's basically what I have been doing this whole time.

I can understand frustrations, but alot of people are going overboard on it, especially given a game that's only been out for 2 full weeks now.

Problems were bound to occur, I guess I'm more of the minority in that I don't rage so hard.

Am I upset, sure a little bit since I can't play the game I just bought...But am I enraged to want a refund, knowing it will all settle eventually? Naaah

I've been overpaying for Gemstone for years, I'd rage over that before any other online game I'm sure first. Maybe we should point some enraged D3 players over to GS and show them the pricing and what they get for it all lol

[g++]

Yah, theres really nothing more irritating then grinding the nef buff to 5 and then having a random dc in a single player game and having it wiped off.

[SHAFT]

Have an offline mode, if you wanna connect, have a connect option. If you wanna update your game, download the update. Why does a single player game HAVE to be connected? It's just dumb.

Love the game, but the setup is maddening.

[TheEschaton]

Offline results in torrenting offline versions of it to be played. Having it online (and thus being authenticated/monitored) is Blizzard's way of combatting the rampant abuses found in D2. Android and I had a whole debate about it earlier in the thread.

Anyways, downloaded the US client, at least I'm getting the "we're offline" message y'all have been getting.

[Tgo01]

I think it's back up, woot.

[g++]

The problem is they are trying to avoid hex hacking like diablo2, when people would just dupe 100's of items in offline mode and sell them. I mean I understand what their doing..it doesnt lessen the frustration of these situations though.

[ThatDamnTep]

Does anyone happen to have a guess pass left they could toss my way? I want to see how it runs on the laptop before I decide to purchase.

[TheEschaton]

Oh man, error 37'd. You guys in now?

[Drisco]

No, It's still not working for me. This is da bullshit.

[SHAFT]

Makes sense as to why they have online mode only but I still don't like it

[Numbers]

Really hating being able to only sell 10 things at a time on the auction house. My stash is full of blues and rares that I know will sell well, but I can't do anything with them until my other auctions end.

[subzero]

I like the MC Hammer reference lol

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[Androidpk]

Makes sense as to why they have online mode only but I still don't like it

Torchlight doesn't have that shit as do thousands of other games.

[subzero]

The problem is they are trying to avoid hex hacking like diablo2, when people would just dupe 100's of items in offline mode and sell them. I mean I understand what their doing..it doesnt lessen the frustration of these situations though.

I could be quite wrong, stupid, whatever, but couldn't they deal with that by flagging items somehow? Items found, made, etc in offline mode = unable to be sold, traded, or even dropped in online mode. Seems to me that there has to be some way they can differentiate between items found in one mode or the other and doing so would eliminate the concern of duped items being sold.

[TheEschaton]

They'd pretty much have to make it so your offline characters would NEVER be able to play online, and vice versa, online characters would always be online. Can you imagine THAT sort of bitching?

Any time you can switch between the two modes, there'd be serious potential for hacking.

Also, Torchlight 2 is still in beta, so no one knows how that'll release. Regardless, even if it releases as it is, that game'll get hacked badly and its economy disrupted - the difference is, it'll be on a smaller scale by virtue of merely being Torchlight 2. And when it's hacked, and Torchlight 2 is largely compromised, you don't think the company that makes that game will sit down and be like "Why aren't we reaching our profit margins on this title?"

It's the same story everytime - when a game company does nothing to prevent pirating/hacking/etc, gamers do it out of control, and then whine when companies do something to protect what is essentially their property.

[Tgo01]

They'd pretty much have to make it so your offline characters would NEVER be able to play online, and vice versa, online characters would always be online. Can you imagine THAT sort of bitching?

Any time you can switch between the two modes, there'd be serious potential for hacking.

That's how it was in Diablo 2, your offline characters were always offline and your online characters were always online.

[Androidpk]

They'd pretty much have to make it so your offline characters would NEVER be able to play online, and vice versa, online characters would always be online. Can you imagine THAT sort of bitching?

Any time you can switch between the two modes, there'd be serious potential for hacking.

Also, Torchlight 2 is still in beta, so no one knows how that'll release. Regardless, even if it releases as it is, that game'll get hacked badly and its economy disrupted - the difference is, it'll be on a smaller scale by virtue of merely being Torchlight 2. And when it's hacked, and Torchlight 2 is largely compromised, you don't think the company that makes that game will sit down and be like "Why aren't we reaching our profit margins on this title?"

It's the same story everytime - when a game company does nothing to prevent pirating/hacking/etc, gamers do it out of control, and then whine when companies do something to protect what is essentially their property.

An always offline mode would be OK by me and many others. And Torchlight 2 is in beta but the developers, some formerly Blizzardites, are awesome and said they wouldn't do that always online BS. Torchlight 1 didn't have sales issues, and neither do many other triple A titles so quit with the fear mongering ya douche.

[Androidpk]

That's how it was in Diablo 2, your offline characters were always offline and your online characters were always online.

Just like Diablo 3 will eventually have hacks and shit.

[subzero]

They'd pretty much have to make it so your offline characters would NEVER be able to play online, and vice versa, online characters would always be online. Can you imagine THAT sort of bitching?

Any time you can switch between the two modes, there'd be serious potential for hacking.


I'm not seeing why they couldn't take a snapshot of your offline character when it goes online. If server doesn't contain an image (ie. first logon), all the stuff you have is flagged as offline gear that can't be given to others in any way. When you log off, the logon snapshot is compared to what you have at the time. The server then adds the newly acquired stuff to your online profile and you can sell/trade away. Same thing if you start an online character and play it offline. There's no reason they couldn't do something to allow a seamless online/offline transition.

[Androidpk]

OK so I said fuck it and upgraded the starter account to a full one.

Error 37.

[Gizmo]

lol...The errors must have started once I logged out to do some chores around the house

[TheEschaton]

I'm not seeing why they couldn't take a snapshot of your offline character when it goes online. If server doesn't contain an image (ie. first logon), all the stuff you have is flagged as offline gear that can't be given to others in any way. When you log off, the logon snapshot is compared to what you have at the time. The server then adds the newly acquired stuff to your online profile and you can sell/trade away. Same thing if you start an online character and play it offline. There's no reason they couldn't do something to allow a seamless online/offline transition.

That's a lot of memory they'd have to use, and info they'd have to store, on top of having the servers they already need for multi-player.

[Androidpk]

That's a lot of memory they'd have to use, and info they'd have to store, on top of having the servers they already need for multi-player.

As one of the most profitable gaming companies I'm sure they could pay for some more servers.
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[Warriorbird]

I for one like the results of Blizzard's always on DRM. No single player/multi separation.

[Some Rogue]

Third legendary tonight, Inferno mode Butcher run.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/legendary.jpg

[TheEschaton]

That's crap DPS sadly for Inferno. :/ I'm using a higher DPS weapon in Act II hell.

[Some Rogue]

Increased Attack speed is the shit though

[TheEschaton]

Isn't the Attack speed factored into the weapon DPS displayed? If not, I've been miscalculating shit for a long time.

[Some Rogue]

I don't believe so because IAS comes on pieces other than weapons. Equip a ring or neck with IAS and watch your damage on the character sheet skyrocket.

I know for monks at least, IAS is an awesome stat. I dunno how good it is for anyone else really.

[TheEschaton]

It'd be good the demon hunter using that crossbow, I guess.

[Androidpk]

IAS rocks for everyone.

[subzero]

That's a lot of memory they'd have to use, and info they'd have to store, on top of having the servers they already need for multi-player.

You're fuckin kidding, right? Not only should money not be an issue, but you're not adding a bunch of stuff to their current setup. They ALREADY have all the stuff your characters have in inventory/stash on their servers. They'd be adding flags to items, which would add a stupidly small amount of data to said items. They would actually have a lot less on their servers if they didn't need to keep track of offline items as I described.


As one of the most profitable gaming companies I'm sure they could pay for some more servers.

Pretty sure I saw they claimed ~1 million people did the annual warcraft pass w/ D3 included. They could buy the servers with that money alone and have more than enough left over to write themselves bonus checks, make it rain up in da clubz, etc.


Isn't the Attack speed factored into the weapon DPS displayed? If not, I've been miscalculating shit for a long time.

I dunno how that works, now that you mention it. I was about to point out that you were likely not factoring in the additional poison damage each hit, but I suppose that would depend on if all that stuff is bundled into the weapon DPS or not.

[Some Rogue]

Ok, tested it by taking off all my IAS gear except for one weapon.

The weapon shows 1.64 attacks per second but has IAS of 17%. Character sheet shows my Attacks per second at 1.67.

Ring has 12% IAS and takes me to 1.87.

Second weapon has 16% IAS and takes me to 2.12.

So I guess it's not factored into what displays on the tooltip and unlike wow dual wielders, you'd want the faster weapon in your mainhand.

[Androidpk]

I dunno how that works, now that you mention it. I was about to point out that you were likely not factoring in the additional poison damage each hit, but I suppose that would depend on if all that stuff is bundled into the weapon DPS or not.

Attack speed on weapons get counted when the DPS is calculated, as is all of the other things that might increase it.

[TheEschaton]

So you're saying SR's crossbow is 527 dps with the IAS included?

Because the damage range is about 490 (with 126 + 4% included) to 725 (with 219 + 4% included), at 1.23 attacks per second. That means dps ranging from 398-589 without IAS even included. The average of those two numbers I guess is 483ish. If you make the AS 12% faster (1.08 seconds per attack), that's 453ish - 671.3, or 562ish for DPS.

I have no idea if that's how the DPS is calculated (as an average of the range), but whatever, just some napkin math.

[Fallen]

Finished it last night. Did Act 4 in one go. I've about 5k health but only 325ish DPS. I will likely go back through act 3 and 4 first before moving on to Nightmare.

[g++]

Im in a really weird spot. I can farm Khuul in act 2 inferno but it is like the most frustrating gaming experience I have ever had. If you don't believe me ask Nekk, so many white mob gibs and impossible elites. Im stacking resists, kiting my little heart out. I feel like I essentially need to play perfectly to kill even blue packs in act II but I can get a 5 stack of the buff and kill Khuul and get a few act II rares. They are obviously rarely upgrades but its doable. On the other hand actI inferno is so easy now that I can pretty much wand down elite packs while they melee me in solo games, I can do butcher runs solo in under about 40 minutes. So hard to decide which is more efficient, slamming my head against the wall in act II and getting incredibly frustrated, or farming act I for money knowing full well all the items are useless.

Its crossed my mind to go the entirely opposite direction kill Baal and move to act 3 and farm act 3 blues.

Inferno is confusing.

[SpiffyJr]

I completely dominate Act I now but Act II (despite numerous gear swaps) is entirely undoable right now. I'll figure it out (or get more gear) eventually.

[Deathravin]

How your character feels in each difficulty.

http://i.imgur.com/tRR1r.jpg

[Tgo01]

Just do what I did, start an alt and work on achievements. I understand Blizzard's desire to want this content to be "fresh" for a while yet but I do hope they tweak the difficulty just slightly.

[g++]

I do play a barb when I get too frustrated to continue playing the wizard but I really do want to power through this and get to ACT3 before they nerf this game into oblivion. Honestly as soon as they release the real money auction house this game will be too easy imo.

[Buckwheet]

I hit level 52 last night. I now have 20k health and 11k DPS on my mage. I just killed Azmodan and he was pretty easy. I am hoping that I can finish out nightmare mode and get into hell with this setup.

I am thinking about dropping some serious money on a 900ish dps 2 hander when I hit 60 for the last part of Hell and first part of Inferno.

[g++]

If I was you I would buy an 800 dps weapon for 10k and buy int/vit/resist/resist all in as many spots as possible with your savings. With glass cannon and force weapon dps is the least of your problems as a wizard 99% of the time. Just friendly advice from a fellow hydra dancer.

[Marl]

like i said earlier resists are a must for a2+
I played with a friend who has 1k res all and he can tank like a bitch. (wiz tanking 4-5 hits no dskin)
Me with 400ish still getting one shotted everywhere.
There has to be a breakpoint somewhere on res.
I tried aspect farming in a4 and it was the same as a2 instakill if something looked at ya wrong

[Marl]

btw for the dps pumpers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aWRO5BNYBek

[Liagala]

Where are you guys finding this kind of gear in Nightmare mode? I was looking on the auction house the other day, and the best weapon I found for under 150k at my level (42 at the time) was 114 dps. I'm all the way up to a 127 dps weapon now, at level 47 in the middle of Act 3 NM. My dps is 1577.04. Things don't fall over dead when I glance at them, but I'm not having trouble with much of anything. I can't imagine going through NM with 6 times the dps I have now. I'm pretty sure just loading onto my screen would be enough to kill most of the demons.

[g++]

I never get one shotted, I get over run and over powered by champions with bad combos and white mobs that spawn on top of you and attack instantly. I have 550 resist 31k health 4500 armor and 29k dps and some of the champions in khuuls lair still fuck me up like nobodies business. They just straight out over power you and exhaust your cooldowns.

I think DR on resistances by the time you get to 1000 is basically to the point where its not worth it. So not sure I would go that high. I would like to be at around 700 I think.

[Fallen]

Where are the hardcore people in terms of difficulty level? Can anyone who plays a barbarian give me a rough idea of where to be in terms of level/stats before moving on to each section? It sounds like Inferno on Hardcore simply isn't possible.

[Marl]

Where are you guys finding this kind of gear in Nightmare mode? I was looking on the auction house the other day, and the best weapon I found for under 150k at my level (42 at the time) was 114 dps. I'm all the way up to a 127 dps weapon now, at level 47 in the middle of Act 3 NM. My dps is 1577.04. Things don't fall over dead when I glance at them, but I'm not having trouble with much of anything. I can't imagine going through NM with 6 times the dps I have now. I'm pretty sure just loading onto my screen would be enough to kill most of the demons.

for mid level weaps use the search for say lvl 55+ lvl weaps with reduced lvl req affix and you can get some 500+ dps weaps for cheap

[Deathravin]

Where are the hardcore people in terms of difficulty level? Can anyone who plays a barbarian give me a rough idea of where to be in terms of level/stats before moving on to each section?

There's level caps (min & max) on joining a public game - each chapter has a different level limit... I try to stay around the top end of that.

If things start getting a bit tough, I farm gold on a lower character and buy some AH items that will make things easier.


It sounds like Inferno on Hardcore simply isn't possible.

It seems like it's possible, but there's going to be a lot of farming & AH buying before you even attempt it.

[Tgo01]

Where are the hardcore people in terms of difficulty level? Can anyone who plays a barbarian give me a rough idea of where to be in terms of level/stats before moving on to each section? It sounds like Inferno on Hardcore simply isn't possible.

I wouldn't even attempt to beat Act 1 Inferno hardcore unless I had some kick ass gear. At this point I wouldn't even play Act 2 Inferno hardcore, period.

[Tgo01]

I'm actually loving playing my barbarian right now. He kicks so much ass in hell it isn't even funny, with all of his health regeneration abilities and life steal I hardly even have to use a health potion anymore. Hope things aren't as bad for barbarians in Inferno as people are saying it is.

[g++]

I think the gear curve for barb's and monks is just steeper. I also think once you out gear the content your results are more consistent though too. I.E. Once you have the resist and armor I dont think the packs have any chance of killing you, but until you do you have no shot of killing them.

[Deathravin]

I'm actually loving playing my barbarian right now. He kicks so much ass in hell it isn't even funny, with all of his health regeneration abilities and life steal I hardly even have to use a health potion anymore. Hope things aren't as bad for barbarians in Inferno as people are saying it is.

I thought my DH was badass for killing 13 mobs with one hit a few times... Until my barb with a weapon WAY OP for his level got 20.

[Gizmo]

Well, patch 1.02a should be done by 3pm EST...

[subzero]

Where are you guys finding this kind of gear in Nightmare mode? I was looking on the auction house the other day, and the best weapon I found for under 150k at my level (42 at the time) was 114 dps. I'm all the way up to a 127 dps weapon now, at level 47 in the middle of Act 3 NM. My dps is 1577.04. Things don't fall over dead when I glance at them, but I'm not having trouble with much of anything. I can't imagine going through NM with 6 times the dps I have now. I'm pretty sure just loading onto my screen would be enough to kill most of the demons.

Lemme tell ya, doing the latter part of Act II with between 800-970 dps was brutal. I initially ran into a roadblock at the Soulstone quest to kill Khuule; simply couldn't get past the champ pack in there. Did some farming, picked up some life regen gear (up to 107/sec), got the damage in the 900 range, and started feelin good about things. Went back and did the Soulstone quest with ease (except for the unlucky fact that I had a couple vampiric/electrified packs that were a bitch). Somewhere towards the end of that, though, I found a weapon that took my dps from 972 upwards of 1800. Did a little of Act III last night and got the feeling that this is probably about the expected gear level. I feel like I can smash the living hell out of things, but I can still die if I do somethin stupid.

[g++]

Have you guys tried buying really high end red gems and putting them in your helmets? Level ~20% faster.

[Gizmo]

Have you guys tried buying really high end red gems and putting them in your helmets? Level ~20% faster.

I never bothered with +XP items. More so since you don't typically start farming for gear anyways until Hell/Inferno, and by then you should be 60 as I see it.

Sure, you could hit 60 earlier I guess, but it's kind of moot as I see it, since I'll eventually just be farming Inferno Act 4 etc as time goes on

I did find solo with my barb, who apparently is very gear dependent, with little good gear I had all the way up to currently Hell Act IV and I've yet to really farm anything at all.

Hell my DPS is only like 4700 right now, Health 39k and Armor I think 5600ish

[Loyrl]

On my HC barb I started farming Hell A1 up to adrias cave at lvl 51 52, I just killed the skeleton king at 54 (all solo). Ill get my stats and stuff when I get off work and if I remember. I'm a bit farther on my 56 WD in A1, I am just past the spider queen.

When I am doing the first few quests in A1, I always check the for the 2 cellars before the waypoint for the goblin and treasure horder. I have gotten a lot of blacksmithing tomes and jewelcrafting tomes doing that.

Barb skills = warcry 10% hp along with regen rune, I may swap this out for charge + HP regen on hits when I get to that level, or if I know I may get trapped somewhere I take charge / leap. Revenge @ 30% rune, SSJ +100% dmg rune, frenzy with sidearm rune, iron skin with a different rune depending on if I am playing with a group or solo. Ground stomp with wider area and pull in to me rune. This is what I can remember atm.

Passives: armor depending on VIT, 20% damage reduction from non phys attacks, and right now since I use warcry I use the 1 minute + regen passive, I swap this out with the +25% frenzy damage @ full fury, when I need the dps.

[Androidpk]

Only 25 on my barbarian but kind of bummed that I haven't found a single good THW yet. Right I'm using a legendary spear (scrimshaw) and a mace with a shitload of vitality and attack speed.

Was looking over the forums during the downtime and apparently there are some legendary items that are broken and don't include the IAS even if the item says it has it.

[Buckwheet]

Where are you guys finding this kind of gear in Nightmare mode? I was looking on the auction house the other day, and the best weapon I found for under 150k at my level (42 at the time) was 114 dps. I'm all the way up to a 127 dps weapon now, at level 47 in the middle of Act 3 NM. My dps is 1577.04. Things don't fall over dead when I glance at them, but I'm not having trouble with much of anything. I can't imagine going through NM with 6 times the dps I have now. I'm pretty sure just loading onto my screen would be enough to kill most of the demons.

I farmed Azmodan and Kule in normal from 21ish to 40ish and in Nightmare from 43ish to 50. I sold all the drops on the AH and had like 1.2m on me when for upgrading my gear at 51. During that time I had a friend with 100% magic find with me during every farm and we pulled lots of gold and 5 or 6 legendary pieces out. I know for a fact we popped 3 Chaingmails. One for me, one for his barb, and a second caster one we sold for 150k.

[TheEschaton]

Yeah, i don't know how Buckweet is doing it, I'm 4 levels above him and at 6k DPS and only 20k HP.

[Gizmo]

I'm doing Hell Act 3 Siegebreaker runs if anyone wants me to let them know if a chest/goblin is in it

[Loyrl]

Barb 54
HP 34518 w/shout
armor 4306 w/shout
2510 dps

906 str
975 vit

Although I did just craft these which are pretty good.

http://i.minus.com/jlnL1NpLZCDBF.jpg (http://minus.com/llnL1NpLZCDBF)

[Buckwheet]

Yeah, i don't know how Buckweet is doing it, I'm 4 levels above him and at 6k DPS and only 20k HP.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dt0MJiNUBIsNz8oHt4umNgVmCWAA57qLKT8PBSv3xVE?feat=d irectlink

I don't know what else to say?

[TheEschaton]

Your weapon must be ridiculously better than mine. I think mine is about 450 dps, haven't bothered buying a new one yet, think I'm gonna wait til Inferno.

[Stretch]

I think I spent about 600K upgrading the damn blacksmith and jeweler. Urgh, that was a waste.

[Gizmo]

Only 25 on my barbarian but kind of bummed that I haven't found a single good THW yet. Right I'm using a legendary spear (scrimshaw) and a mace with a shitload of vitality and attack speed.

Was looking over the forums during the downtime and apparently there are some legendary items that are broken and don't include the IAS even if the item says it has it.

Found an OK 2H Barb Weapon today..Has both +100+ Str and Vit on it, among a few others, I'll post it here in case anyone wants it.

Also, I have a +961 Life on hit 1-Handed Spear I'll gladly sell too heh, I think it's around 340ish DPS, prolly level 55 or so min

[Buckwheet]

Your weapon must be ridiculously better than mine. I think mine is about 450 dps, haven't bothered buying a new one yet, think I'm gonna wait til Inferno.

345.8 DPS yellow weapon with a red 14-20 damage gem I think.

[Tgo01]

I think I spent about 600K upgrading the damn blacksmith and jeweler. Urgh, that was a waste.

Achievements are never a waste!

[TheEschaton]

345.8 DPS yellow weapon with a red 14-20 damage gem I think.

Wait, what? WTF am I missing, my weapon has higher DPS than that. Even using magic weapon - force, I'm at around 6K DPS. I don't think our int/vitality numbers are far off either.

[Gizmo]

Amazingly, just hit Inferno now solo..Time to farm the shit out of things since my gear is WAY lacking, all my resist gear now is pretty random, even if I do have a bit

[AMUSED1]

I found the best way for me to farm gold, as a solo wizard, is to just do nightmare Act3 Heart of Sin runs all the way to killing Azmodan. You can find lots of cheap gold find items on the AH and equip 12 of the 13 slots with them. I've got 181% GF before any Valor stacks. Easily making 30k or so in about a 10 minute run.

That's how I'm going to afford all my equipment upgrades. Then do it in Hell when I can not die there either.

Already 60, but I hate act 1 of inferno beyond rescuing Cain.

[Buckwheet]

Wait, what? WTF am I missing, my weapon has higher DPS than that. Even using magic weapon - force, I'm at around 6K DPS. I don't think our int/vitality numbers are far off either.

Maybe attack speed? I dunno. My attacks per second is 1.27.

[Androidpk]

What are the achievement points used for, e-peen padding?

[Tgo01]

What are the achievement points used for, e-peen padding?

Yes, every 100 points is an inch, I'm sporting a 23 incher at the moment.

[Androidpk]

Finally found a sweet rare twohanded sword off a treasure gnome. Just about lost the fucker, killed him at the very last second before he popped into the portal.

[Androidpk]

Aaaand fuck you blizzard item generator. I was so happy to be not using the 1h spear and not less than 15 minutes later I find a rare spear with much better damage/stats than the sword I just found >_>

[Atlanteax]

WINNER

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5592451390


Subject: Please make Diablo 4 Simpler.

I really like the direction diablo 3 took from it's previous game. And I really want to see that direction continued so here are my suggestions.

1. One Class, this will eliminate the confusion of having to choose from 5 classes, many of the classes play similar either through a requirement of having to kite or the melee classes getting one shotted in inferno. Having just one class, with a gun in one hand, and a sword in the other ensures we can do both, with a generic skill set that isn't too scary or complicated.

2. Remove all stats. I feel that the concept of having actual stat point is way too much for the average console gamer to handle. Diablo 3 really dumbed down the stats, but i don't think it was dumbed down enough. Stats just add complex numbers to the game, numbers I don't like looking at.

3. Only one item slot for your equipped items. Instead of having all these complicated different items like boots and helmets, drops should come in "Kits" that just include everything. You can double click the kit to equip the entire suit of armor and weapon. I feel that this would be a huge improvement over the current system and would allow console gamers to fully grasp the fundamentals of a super in depth rpg hack and slash.

4. Require an Xbox controller, disable the keyboard, nobody likes using keyboards I know i don't.

5. Remove drops, I feel that when I'm fighting a mob and hoping for a good drop my heart rate slightly elevates in anticipation for an item I could use. Of course the item is 10 levels below my character level and isn't even suitable for my class, but that excitement/disappointment roller coaster you folks put me through every time I kill a blue or a yellow mob could be damaging for my health.

Instead, have a random item appear in your inventory every 10 minutes, or 5 minutes if people pay a monthly subscription of 15 dollars. I feel that the value and fairness of a system like this would create a more enjoyable atmosphere.

6. Require people to log in diablo 4 at a certified blizzard gaming station.

Instead of having us be online from home, which is confusing, you should open computer cafe's across the world, where people have to go to log into the game. Of course only so many people can fit into a building, much like the current situation with diablo III, so it's pretty much the same thing.

7. Remove gold, make the total games economy real money related. Playing a game to suspend my reality for making riches is too much for me to handle. I would rather gamble my real money on a day to day basis.

8. Remove bosses. I Really think blizzard did a good job with making the bosses of diablo III 100% worthless to fight again after you've done them the first time in the difficulty. The idea of having a big confrontation at the end of a dungeon for the opportunity to find some loot is completely 100% unfun to me, and honestly I would rather not do it.

So instead I think a 10 minute trivia or math test should be in order for the character to progress to the next act. That way if I'm going to be enduring 10-20 minutes of boredom with no real end result, I can at least learn something in the time I've wasted doing a boss fight.

9. Reduce the plot further, having just under 3 minutes of cinematics has taught me that plot driving a game is a very bad thing. Obviously the reason we've been waiting for over a decade is because of the time and effort put into the cut scenes. I feel that removing the plot completely should only make the development cycle for diablo 4, 6 years instead of 12.

EA I hope you consider my game changes. I'm sorry I meant blizzard.

Thanks for your time.

[Rinualdo]

I'm enjoying Diablo 3. Due to my heavy travel schedule, I'm much farther behind then most of you. I've had the same complaints most people have, but going through the storyline I keep coming back to one disappointing though: I'm playing a makeover of Diablo 2. I was really hoping for a sequel.

It's the same basic story line, the same enemies, the same progression of zones and areas. I was really hoping for something more akin to SC2 in terms of story additions and growth.

The game feels much more like a reboot and less like a sequel.

[g++]

I think I spent about 600K upgrading the damn blacksmith and jeweler. Urgh, that was a waste.

I dont think its a total waste, eventually you find patterns you might actually want to make in inferno. I just think it should be done reverse order. Level up and get upgrades off the auction house then level the JC/BS.

[SpiffyJr]

I can't make any progression in Act II because I can't get any items to drop in Act I to continue. I used to get upgrades but it seems like Act I just doesn't drop gear (dex + vit + resists) so that I'm tanky enough to live in Act II. I'm sitting at > 200% magic find with 5 stacks of Neph and I still have yet to find legendary - I've done Act I probably 50 or so times. Do legendaries even drop in A1?

Really annoying that I have A1 on farm mode and can't even make a dent into A2.

[g++]

99% of legendaries suck dick anyway. Go onto the AH select armor, put 100 min intelligence, 100 min vitality and resist all. Buy as many as you can and a 900-1000 dps weapon. Thats how I started ACT II.

Oh wait your a monk let me re-phrase that.

Your fucked.

[Some Rogue]

It's easier for monks to get the resists though. Get +element of choice and +resist all items.

The problem for monks is we need so many different stats, it's hard to get them all in decent amounts.

[SpiffyJr]

99% of legendaries suck dick anyway. Go onto the AH select armor, put 100 min intelligence, 100 min vitality and resist all. Buy as many as you can and a 900-1000 dps weapon. Thats how I started ACT II.

Oh wait your a monk let me re-phrase that.

Your fucked.

Fucking monks.

[g++]

I play with Nekk(SomeRogue) who is a monk quite a bit and really its like we both get from Point A to Point B but it seems like Nekk needs nearly flawless gear to move an act or get a new boss down. I pretty much get like half the shit I need and lol kite my way to victory and fill in my bad gear with new drops. I think ActII for a monk you need like 600-700 resist, as much armor as possible and decent dps. Might also want to try getting life on hit gear.

[Tgo01]

I hate how everyone has figured out resistances are key, shit I used to see on the AH for 100k to 200k are now going for 1-2+ million.

[Some Rogue]

I play with Nekk(SomeRogue) who is a monk quite a bit and really its like we both get from Point A to Point B but it seems like Nekk needs nearly flawless gear to move an act or get a new boss down. I pretty much get like half the shit I need and lol kite my way to victory and fill in my bad gear with new drops. I think ActII for a monk you need like 600-700 resist, as much armor as possible and decent dps. Might also want to try getting life on hit gear.

Yeah, I am nearing 700 resist, 13k dps buffed and maybe 5k armor..maybe I should try some act 2 again today heh.

[Gizmo]

Barbs and Monks are heavily gear dependent, that's the biggest issue.

PK, if you want a higher DPS 2H down the road let me know, I have some 630ish DPS ones sitting in my stash with a socket etc

Same goes for others...I may open a new thread for trade fodder/items wanted here unless others object

[Androidpk]

Cool, thanks Gizmo.

At what point am I going to start needing a lot of resists? Just beat normal for the first time early this morning and I think all of my resists are only at 10 or so.

[g++]

Kungen just died.

[SpiffyJr]

You don't need resists till Inferno.

[Jace Solo]

My WD is 45... When do I need to start gearing for resists and what are the prime ones or do I need different sets for different acts?

If anyone has good hand me downs for a WD let me know :)

[Jace Solo]

Those posts all came in pretty quick!

[g++]

Unless your playing hardcore I dont think resists matter till inferno and if your ranged you can even slide by inferno act1 without buying good resist gear. By act2 you will probably start needing 300+ to stay alive long enough to move out of the fire, if that makes sense.

[Atlanteax]

Kungen just died.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8183/hahahahaah.jpg

Holy heck is the chatwindow on his livetv thing scrolling so fast...

[Some Rogue]

The one benefit of being a monk, using one of our passives makes all your resists equal your highest. Too bad we have so many other drawbacks heh.

[g++]

He took it like a champion. Hes like literally 1 minute after dying, well I shouldnt alt tab in hardcore...anyway I guess Im going to play a monk now.

[Buckwheet]

He took it like a champion. Hes like literally 1 minute after dying, well I shouldnt alt tab in hardcore...anyway I guess Im going to play a monk now.

He also said meh I can be 60 tomorrow and I have so much gold I can just buy all my shit from the AH back.

[Atlanteax]

It is a little 'wrong' when the AH is far more helpful than the crafting system.

Maybe Blizzard can buff the crafting system but to compensate, make it BoP. That seems like a reasonable trade-off.

Then again, Activision is probably expecting to profit from the RM-AH.

[Gizmo]

Kungen just died.

That sucks.

And what Spiffy said, you really don't need resists until Inferno, so I wouldn't stress it.

Just keep stacking Str/Vit as a Barb and you should be good.

Side note, I just got done showing Spiffy a farming spot of mine, and not 5mins after he left, I snagged my first set armor piece from there.

Pretty freaking nice if I say so, even how it is now

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5540/sethn.png

[g++]

They are reasonably close. Getting a level 60 with perfect stats will cost you over a million on the AH. You can get lucky and get it for 12 salvaged blues through crafting. Whether its more efficient to vendor or craft at level 60 is debatable.

[g++]

That sucks.

And what Spiffy said, you really don't need resists until Inferno, so I wouldn't stress it.

Just keep stacking Str/Vit as a Barb and you should be good.

Side note, I just got done showing Spiffy a farming spot of mine, and not 5mins after he left, I snagged my first set armor piece from there.

Pretty freaking nice if I say so, even how it is now

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5540/sethn.png

Thats some amazing armor. Been thinking about buying that off the AH myself.

[Rinualdo]

It is a little 'wrong' when the AH is far more helpful than the crafting system.

Maybe Blizzard can buff the crafting system but to compensate, make it BoP. That seems like a reasonable trade-off.

Then again, Activision is probably expecting to profit from the RM-AH.

I think I read in a recent blog that the next patch(es) would make crafted items cheaper and more useful.

[Atlanteax]

I think I read in a recent blog that the next patch(es) would make crafted items cheaper and more useful.

That'd be great!

Guess I'll just stockpile sharded mats until then.

[Fallen]

Where is everyone currently with their Hardcore characters?

Class - Level - Difficulty/Act

I tried Act 1 Nightmare at around 35 as the barbarian.

Definitely scary to see my life bar move when fighting normal monsters. I think I might farm Act 4 normal a bit longer until I have better rings and all flawless gems at a minumum in my socketed gear.

[Drew]

I have a 46 wiz and a 35 demon hunter on hardcore.

[Gizmo]

Thats some amazing armor. Been thinking about buying that off the AH myself.

Yeah, if any of you guys are interested in this armor, come see me first before buying from the AH.

Right now, I'll likely be using it as it's still pretty damn good for my Barb and I have nothing to replace it, but otherwise when I find something similar in resists/vit and with some str I'll get rid of it most likely.

Unless of course you are hurting for it now, then well it may be faster to buy it from the AH.

I'm just happy to know that set items do drop in Act 1.

Now I just need some more secret tomes to hit 10 BS and hope recipes start dropping too

[Asrial]

When is a good point in the game to start selling blues/rares on the AH?

I'm still like level 15 or 16 and haven't finished act 1. Right now I just salvage the blues and stash the rares.

When does stuff start selling?

[Some Rogue]

When is a good point in the game to start selling blues/rares on the AH?

I'm still like level 15 or 16 and haven't finished act 1. Right now I just salvage the blues and stash the rares.

When does stuff start selling?


Unless it's extremely good, I hardly sell anything anymore.

[g++]

Well I literally have a stack of like 275 secret tomes, if you want any of those lol.

and yah I posted 2 800 dps 2 handers for 5k last night....still not sold. Nothing short of act 3 inferno is selling for more than pocket change anymore.

[Fallen]

It wasn't until the end of Act 3, mostly into Act 4 did I think I found items good enough to bother selling. Haven't actually tried to move anything, though. I've only found one unique item and it is some unique wizard glove that looked shitty.

[Fallen]

I have a 46 wiz and a 35 demon hunter on hardcore.

I imagine the wizard is on Nightmare. Did you just finish up with the DH?

[Drew]

Wizard is on nightmare, demon hunter still in normal.