Pelosi officially announces impeachment inquiry

[Methais]

Peak political theater to close out this decade. So far the republicans have just whined about the totally and legitimate process, called the accusation "baloney", and continue to try to hold things up with meaningless procedures. So for the democrats have laid out a timeline of facts that corroborates all of the points of their impeachment. Its sad to see the republicans this beholden to a person who does not deserve their, or the people's, total obedience. The people, and republicans, deserve Trump's obedience.

10/10 epic troll confirmed Back is ClydeR.

[~Rocktar~]

Hahahahahahaa...

That's so wrong, yet so fucking funny.

This is correct.

[Back]

Oh man, they are throwing Guilliani under the bus. Ouch.

[Methais]

Oh man, they are throwing Guilliani under the bus. Ouch.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8a7b63662b21879a240cd42f846f0d13/tenor.gif?itemid=4828647

[Tgo01]

According to polls Trump now leads every single Democratic candidate in a hypothetical head to head match up in the important swing states that helped Trump win last year.

Of course polls this far out don't usually mean much, but considering just a couple of months ago Biden (the one doing the best against Trump) was beating Trump by 10 points in these states and Trump now leads Biden by 6 isn't a trend Democrats want.

[Tgo01]

Wait they are still calling "witnesses" and holding hearings even after they have drafted articles of impeachment? Are they bringing in more partisan hacks to try to sell this to the American people because the support isn't there yet or what?

Apparently they are calling both the Democratic counsel and the Republican counsel to testify today. The Democratic counsel admitted that Joe Biden engaged in a quid pro quo in regards to withholding aid from Ukraine until he got what he wanted. This was the Democrats' counsel admitting to this. But we're not allowed to talk about that or investigate that because he's running for president or something.

Good thing Democrats have the actual retard vote like Back locked down because they need that bloc of voters.

[Seran]

According to polls Trump now leads every single Democratic candidate in a hypothetical head to head match up in the important swing states that helped Trump win last year.

Of course polls this far out don't usually mean much, but considering just a couple of months ago Biden (the one doing the best against Trump) was beating Trump by 10 points in these states and Trump now leads Biden by 6 isn't a trend Democrats want.

Source?

[Tgo01]

Source?

Your mom.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Oh man, they are throwing Guilliani under the bus. Ouch.

Well no one cares what the short dick pedophiles demographic thinks.

[Some Rogue]

Wait they are still calling "witnesses" and holding hearings even after they have drafted articles of impeachment? Are they bringing in more partisan hacks to try to sell this to the American people because the support isn't there yet or what?

Apparently they are calling both the Democratic counsel and the Republican counsel to testify today. The Democratic counsel admitted that Joe Biden engaged in a quid pro quo in regards to withholding aid from Ukraine until he got what he wanted. This was the Democrats' counsel admitting to this. But we're not allowed to talk about that or investigate that because he's running for president or something.

Good thing Democrats have the actual retard vote like Back locked down because they need that bloc of voters.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

[Some Rogue]

Well no one cares what the short dick pedophiles demographic thinks.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

AM I DOING IT RIGHT??

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

AM I DOING IT RIGHT??

I don't think so, I don't understand what you are saying.

WANT TO DO PUSHUPS?

[Seran]

Your mom.

I didn't think you ever quoted anyone legitimate, but I stand corrected. Stay classy.

[Tgo01]

I didn't think you ever quoted anyone legitimate, but I stand corrected. Stay classy.

I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do I suspect. I'd be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours.

[Gelston]

I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do I suspect. I'd be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours.

IQs mean you are good at taking tests. Nothing more.

[Seran]

I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do I suspect. I'd be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours.

Only if your big 'ole man titties don't touch the ground when we do a push-up competition.

[Methais]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

[Methais]

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/giphy.gif


AM I DOING IT RIGHT??

https://media1.giphy.com/media/NhV9cWQN18ODm/source.gif

[Tgo01]

What an absolute circus the Democrats have turned congress into in their quest to get rid of Trump.

So both the Democrats' counsel and the Republicans' counsel were called today to testify and they both sat at the witness table together to answer questions from committee members.

Nadler then allowed ONLY the Democrat counsel to sit with the actual elected members of congress and then ask questions to the Republican counsel.

It's actually an insult to all other kangaroo courts that have existed to refer to this sham as a kangaroo court. This is like if at Back's trial for diddling kids SHM is called up as a witness for the prosecution and Seran is called up as a witness to the defense, then the judge allowed Seran to grill SHM thus giving the impression to the jury that Seran's testimony is more important because he is also playing the role of a lawyer. This is so absurd I can't even think of a real world example to compare this to because it is simply that outrageous.

But orange man bad so it's okay.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I’m fairly sure that if I had children and short dick pedophile did something to them, I’d have already taken care of it and have no need for a trial.

[Seran]

What an absolute circus the Democrats have turned congress into in their quest to get rid of Trump.

So both the Democrats' counsel and the Republicans' counsel were called today to testify and they both sat at the witness table together to answer questions from committee members.

Nadler then allowed ONLY the Democrat counsel to sit with the actual elected members of congress and then ask questions to the Republican counsel.

It's actually an insult to all other kangaroo courts that have existed to refer to this sham as a kangaroo court. This is like if at Back's trial for diddling kids SHM is called up as a witness for the prosecution and Seran is called up as a witness to the defense, then the judge allowed Seran to grill SHM thus giving the impression to the jury that Seran's testimony is more important because he is also playing the role of a lawyer. This is so absurd I can't even think of a real world example to compare this to because it is simply that outrageous.

But orange man bad so it's okay.

Slow down there sparky, or you'll have an stroke trying to pull so much out of your ass at once.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

According to dems, today is the most important day in history.

So they decide to vote on USMCA after over a year of stalling.

The ONLY way to read that is that they KNOW impeachment is failing, so they want to be able to say they can chew gum and walk at the same time. 100% partisan politics for something that will NEVER result in Trump being removed from office.

Get ready for 4 more years, snowflakes. I CANNOT wait for short dick pedophiles crying for 4 more years.

[Some Rogue]

According to dems, today is the most important day in history.

So they decide to vote on USMCA after over a year of stalling.

The ONLY way to read that is that they KNOW impeachment is failing, so they want to be able to say they can chew gum and walk at the same time. 100% partisan politics for something that will NEVER result in Trump being removed from office.

Get ready for 4 more years, snowflakes. I CANNOT wait for short dick pedophiles crying for 4 more years.

https://i.imgur.com/5IFND7W.png

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I know, it's incredible how butt hurt the dems are.

[Gelston]

I know, it's incredible how butt hurt the dems are.

Yeah, I don't see how he was calling you butthurt there.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/5IFND7W.png

https://media.giphy.com/media/2fs2I4ujlBf20/giphy.gif

[Some Rogue]

https://media.giphy.com/media/2fs2I4ujlBf20/giphy.gif

https://d.justpo.st/media/images/2015/06/01/this-is-where-the-internet-hurt-me-butt-hurt-1433191658.jpg

[Methais]

https://d.justpo.st/media/images/2015/06/01/this-is-where-the-internet-hurt-me-butt-hurt-1433191658.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/08/71/0708719d6fe2fb9063e66f3b24f5087c.jpg

[Some Rogue]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/08/71/0708719d6fe2fb9063e66f3b24f5087c.jpg

https://media1.tenor.com/images/55b0243973725331403cb123fd9d0887/tenor.gif

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Stock market doesn't even care. Good to know people with money are smarter than short dick pedophiles.

[Tgo01]

They didn't even charge Trump with "bribery", rather "abuse of power" LOL! and "obstruction of Congress" more LOL!

What a shit show. They actually threatened to impeach Trump for insisting on going to the courts before handing over information and the fuckers did it, the madmen actually want to impeach a sitting president for going to the courts. The current Democrats in congress think they are the kings and queens of this country.

I bet Back must feel especially stupid after he waited a week for marching orders from the DNC/CNN on what to refer to Trump's actions as and when they finally settled on "bribery" and he started parroting it back and the next day they don't even charge Trump with bribery.

[Methais]

They didn't even charge Trump with "bribery", rather "abuse of power" LOL! and "obstruction of Congress" more LOL!

What a shit show. They actually threatened to impeach Trump for insisting on going to the courts before handing over information and the fuckers did it, the madmen actually want to impeach a sitting president for going to the courts. The current Democrats in congress think they are the kings and queens of this country.

I bet Back must feel especially stupid after he waited a week for marching orders from the DNC/CNN on what to refer to Trump's actions as and when they finally settled on "bribery" and he started parroting it back and the next day they don't even charge Trump with bribery.

As if any of that will matter to Back.

He won’t even remember it once CNN uploads new code to his soy brain to overwrite the existing code.

[Wrathbringer]

As if any of that will matter to Back.

He won’t even remember it once CNN uploads new code to his soy brain to overwrite the existing code.

This is correct.

[Tgo01]

As if any of that will matter to Back.

He won’t even remember it once CNN uploads new code to his soy brain to overwrite the existing code.

True. Back will probably lay low until the next marching orders come down, or he'll just lash out at everyone until then. That's his typical modus operandi.

[Methais]

True. Back will probably lay low until the next marching orders come down, or he'll just lash out at everyone until then. That's his typical modus operandi.

In before Back quotes this post and lashes out.

[Gelston]

In before Back quotes this post and lashes out.

Haha, your little caesars closed.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/karen-bass-impeach-trump-2020

Democrat Karen Bass says she's open to impeach Trump again if he gets reelected in 2020

100% partisan politics is crazy.

[Methais]

Haha, your little caesars closed.

THEY OPENED BACK UP ANUSPISS!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/u1qxgqL.png

[~Rocktar~]

We must protect the pizza. The pizza must flow!

[Tgo01]

Hank Johnson, the idiot who thought Guam would capsize if we sent too many military personnel there, had this to say about why we should impeach Trump:


Colleague from Georgia talks about how Democrats are trying to make Zelensky look weak. Well, I’ll tell you. That brings to mind the picture of President Trump and President Zelensky meeting in New York in September at the UN, and a big chair for President Trump, a little chair for President Zelensky.


And they’re standing there and President Trump is holding court and he says oh by the way, no quid pro quo, no pressure, and you saw President Zelensky shaking his head as if his daughter was downstairs in the basement duct taped.

Yes. Trump should be impeached because when the two presidents met Trump supposedly had a bigger chair than Zelensky and because Trump...had Zelensky's daughter duct taped in the basement...?

People so worried about Trump being unfit for office. There should be an IQ requirement to be in the house, half the people would be gone tomorrow.

[Methais]

Hank Johnson, the idiot who thought Guam would capsize if we sent too many military personnel there, had this to say about why we should impeach Trump:





Yes. Trump should be impeached because when the two presidents met Trump supposedly had a bigger chair than Zelensky and because Trump...had Zelensky's daughter duct taped in the basement...?

People so worried about Trump being unfit for office. There should be an IQ requirement to be in the house, half the people would be gone tomorrow.

It's amazing that he kept getting reelected after the Guam thing. I mean I know voters in general are stupid but god damn draw the line somewhere.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's amazing that he kept getting reelected after the Guam thing. I mean I know voters in general are stupid but god damn draw the line somewhere.

Dude...
Waters, Obama, Trump, Schitt, Swallow, AOC, Tlaib, the other chick... the list is endlessly full of people who aren't qualified and should never have ever gotten elected, much less reelected.

[Parkbandit]

Dude...
Waters, Obama, Trump, Schitt, Swallow, AOC, Tlaib, the other chick... the list is endlessly full of people who aren't qualified and should never have ever gotten elected, much less reelected.

The bar to be considered "qualified" is extremely low for elected office.

[Methais]

The bar to be considered "qualified" is extremely low for elected office.

I'm curious what Hank Johnson's initial campaign was like. He could be explaining quantum physics with 100% accuracy and still sound like a huge retard and put everyone to sleep.

I'm just gonna assume no one else was running, because how does someone who talks like him get anyone hype for anything?

[~Rocktar~]

It's amazing that he kept getting reelected after the Guam thing. I mean I know voters in general are stupid but god damn draw the line somewhere.

I now live in Northwest Georgia, used to live over the line in Tennessee. This is his district:

https://www.zipdatamaps.com/politics/national/district/map-of-georgia-4th-congressional-district

Atlanta voted for Stacy Abrams as governor. The urban South is just as elitist, racist, Leftist as most of the North and yet, somehow dumber since they elects some of the most idiotic people to office. The rural South is what most people think of as the South. Most of the cities are Leftist shitholes just in better shape than the north because the cancer hasn't been living as long.

[Methais]

Even CNN had to admit that democrats are full of shit :lol:

CNN Admits: Democrats Lied About Trump's Phone Call With Zelensky (https://pjmedia.com/trending/cnn-admits-democrats-lied-about-trumps-phone-call-with-zelensky)

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/impeachment-inquiry-12-12-2019/h_456ffc5c9aec1234abb882fb30f230b8

[Tgo01]

It's being reported that Democrat Jeff Van Drew might switch parties to Republican because of this impeachment shit.

Jeff Van Drew was already against impeachment and signaled a while ago that he might vote against impeachment so that aspect of it isn't anything new, but him switching parties is new. He's probably just doing it to keep his job but I wonder how many others might follow.

[Seran]

That's great, he'll be challenged by an actual Democrat and lose his seat.

[Tgo01]

That's great, he'll be challenged by an actual Democrat and lose his seat.

You dream big.

[Tgo01]

Democrat Collin Peterson said he is going to vote against impeachment unless they come up with something else, which they aren't going to do.

One thing is for sure: the impeachment vote have bipartisan support, it will just be bipartisan support against impeachment.

[Neveragain]

That's great, he'll be challenged by an actual Democrat and lose his seat.

It amazes me that anyone can still support democrats at this point. Their actions over the past 3 years are about as anti-liberal as one could possibly be. The party has become so poisonous that it's red baiting it's own party members.

We will see another republican president elected in 2024. Democrats have committed suicide.

[Seran]

It amazes me that anyone can still support democrats at this point. Their actions over the past 3 years are about as anti-liberal as one could possibly be. The party has become so poisonous that it's red baiting it's own party members.

We will see another republican president elected in 2024. Democrats have committed suicide.

What exactly are you referring to with your post? There's clearly two factions of Democrats, the unapologetic Socialists and the Establishment-Moderates. The Socialists are pushing a severe left-wing agenda which is heedless of the actual political climate. The Moderates are falling all over themselves courting leftist Republicans and non-radical progressives, trying desperately to tap into the far left of their flank, but getting burned every time they try.

What's scary about the Democrat party is their self-destructive political correctness. One of their house members sleeps with a married staffer before she got to congress and they were screaming for her head. Meanwhile Duncan out of San Diego served for a year while under indictment for embezzlement and campaign finance and he was -just fine-. Where the lefties are failing is thinking destroying gun rights and our police forces because of their -usually- correct response to violence in the inner cities in order to court the African American vote. Guess what, African Americans don't like crime anymore than anyone else does. Just as the majority of naturalized Hispanics are disgusted by the idea of granting rights/amnesty to illegal immigrants. The Democrat party has listened to the ulta-activist shriekers on the fringe of their own party, thinking it's the direction our country is going. When in fact, it's just some austic moron with a megaphone.

[Tgo01]

What exactly are you referring to with your post? There's clearly two factions of Democrats, the unapologetic Socialists and the Establishment-Moderates. The Socialists are pushing a severe left-wing agenda which is heedless of the actual political climate. The Moderates are falling all over themselves courting leftist Republicans and non-radical progressives, trying desperately to tap into the far left of their flank, but getting burned every time they try.

What's scary about the Democrat party is their self-destructive political correctness. One of their house members sleeps with a married staffer before she got to congress and they were screaming for her head. Meanwhile Duncan out of San Diego served for a year while under indictment for embezzlement and campaign finance and he was -just fine-. Where the lefties are failing is thinking destroying gun rights and our police forces because of their -usually- correct response to violence in the inner cities in order to court the African American vote. Guess what, African Americans don't like crime anymore than anyone else does. Just as the majority of naturalized Hispanics are disgusted by the idea of granting rights/amnesty to illegal immigrants. The Democrat party has listened to the ulta-activist shriekers on the fringe of their own party, thinking it's the direction our country is going. When in fact, it's just some austic moron with a megaphone.

Sounds like you don't understand why anyone would vote Democrat either.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Sounds like you don't understand why anyone would vote Democrat either.

I think he succinctly put why dems are crazy, and it’d be just as easy to say why Republicans are crazy. You are fringe or moderate and both sides hurt the party as a whole. We need something better than a two party system.

[Parkbandit]

What exactly are you referring to with your post? There's clearly two factions of Democrats, the unapologetic Socialists and the Establishment-Moderates. The Socialists are pushing a severe left-wing agenda which is heedless of the actual political climate. The Moderates are falling all over themselves courting leftist Republicans and non-radical progressives, trying desperately to tap into the far left of their flank, but getting burned every time they try.

What's scary about the Democrat party is their self-destructive political correctness. One of their house members sleeps with a married staffer before she got to congress and they were screaming for her head. Meanwhile Duncan out of San Diego served for a year while under indictment for embezzlement and campaign finance and he was -just fine-. Where the lefties are failing is thinking destroying gun rights and our police forces because of their -usually- correct response to violence in the inner cities in order to court the African American vote. Guess what, African Americans don't like crime anymore than anyone else does. Just as the majority of naturalized Hispanics are disgusted by the idea of granting rights/amnesty to illegal immigrants. The Democrat party has listened to the ulta-activist shriekers on the fringe of their own party, thinking it's the direction our country is going. When in fact, it's just some austic moron with a megaphone.

This is the least retarded post you have ever made here. Not because it is honest, but for once it sounds like you aren't just regurgitating Democrat talking points and are actually thinking about it.

Or.. maybe you went to go on the DailyBeast and accidentally went on DailyCaller.

I'm not sure what it was.. but you can now kiss your title match with Backlash goodbye for the time being.

[Methais]

What exactly are you referring to with your post? There's clearly two factions of Democrats, the unapologetic Socialists and the Establishment-Moderates. The Socialists are pushing a severe left-wing agenda which is heedless of the actual political climate. The Moderates are falling all over themselves courting leftist Republicans and non-radical progressives, trying desperately to tap into the far left of their flank, but getting burned every time they try.

What's scary about the Democrat party is their self-destructive political correctness. One of their house members sleeps with a married staffer before she got to congress and they were screaming for her head. Meanwhile Duncan out of San Diego served for a year while under indictment for embezzlement and campaign finance and he was -just fine-. Where the lefties are failing is thinking destroying gun rights and our police forces because of their -usually- correct response to violence in the inner cities in order to court the African American vote. Guess what, African Americans don't like crime anymore than anyone else does. Just as the majority of naturalized Hispanics are disgusted by the idea of granting rights/amnesty to illegal immigrants. The Democrat party has listened to the ulta-activist shriekers on the fringe of their own party, thinking it's the direction our country is going. When in fact, it's just some austic moron with a megaphone.

So in other words what you’re saying is:


It amazes me that anyone can still support democrats at this point. Their actions over the past 3 years are about as anti-liberal as one could possibly be. The party has become so poisonous that it's red baiting it's own party members.

We will see another republican president elected in 2024. Democrats have committed suicide.

[Methais]

I think he succinctly put why dems are crazy, and it’d be just as easy to say why Republicans are crazy. You are fringe or moderate and both sides hurt the party as a whole. We need something better than a two party system.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/uhczfF67veqkw/source.gif

[Seran]

Sounds like you don't understand why anyone would vote Democrat either.

Oh, I perfectly understand why people tend to lean Democratic, it's because between the extremes of both parties they have a choice; "Worker protections, massive social safety net and high taxes on the rich" with the Democrats and "no abortion or gay marriage, no worker protections and a complete reversion to feudalism as the wealthy 1% become oligarchs owning all land and businesses." Now between becoming serfs expected to work their entire life to pay for a meager living or the socialism offered by the extreme lefties, it's a no-brainer.

[Parkbandit]

Oh, I perfectly understand why people tend to lean Democratic, it's because between the extremes of both parties they have a choice; "Worker protections, massive social safety net and high taxes on the rich" with the Democrats and "no abortion or gay marriage, no worker protections and a complete reversion to feudalism as the wealthy 1% become oligarchs owning all land and businesses." Now between becoming serfs expected to work their entire life to pay for a meager living or the socialism offered by the extreme lefties, it's a no-brainer.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand he's back to being retarded.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Oh, I perfectly understand why people tend to lean Democratic, it's because between the extremes of both parties they have a choice; "Worker protections, massive social safety net and high taxes on the rich" with the Democrats and "no abortion or gay marriage, no worker protections and a complete reversion to feudalism as the wealthy 1% become oligarchs owning all land and businesses." Now between becoming serfs expected to work their entire life to pay for a meager living or the socialism offered by the extreme lefties, it's a no-brainer.

Way to jump the shark.

[Methais]

Oh, I perfectly understand why people tend to lean Democratic, it's because between the extremes of both parties they have a choice; "Worker protections, massive social safety net and high taxes on the rich" with the Democrats and "no abortion or gay marriage, no worker protections and a complete reversion to feudalism as the wealthy 1% become oligarchs owning all land and businesses." Now between becoming serfs expected to work their entire life to pay for a meager living or the socialism offered by the extreme lefties, it's a no-brainer.

My bad, I didn’t know you worked at McDonald’s.

[Tgo01]

A state senator in PA is switching from Democrat to Independent and will caucus with Republicans because he thinks Democrats have gone completely crazy.

[Alfster]

You mean the guy that switched a month ago

[Tgo01]

You mean the guy that switched a month ago

Your face switched a month ago.

[Jeril]

Your face switched a month ago.

I'LL SWITCH YOUR FACE FOR A MONTH!

[Tgo01]

I'LL SWITCH YOUR FACE FOR A MONTH!

:O

[Methais]

You mean the guy that switched a month ago

House Democrat Who Opposed Impeachment Plans To Switch To The Republican Party (https://www.npr.org/2019/12/15/788219342/house-democrat-who-opposed-impeachment-plans-to-switch-to-the-republican-party)

Weird how this is from yesterday and they're still headlining it as if it didn't happen yet.

OR ARE THERE MORE?!?!?!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I doubt the republicans want him.

[Alfster]

House Democrat Who Opposed Impeachment Plans To Switch To The Republican Party (https://www.npr.org/2019/12/15/788219342/house-democrat-who-opposed-impeachment-plans-to-switch-to-the-republican-party)

Weird how this is from yesterday and they're still headlining it as if it didn't happen yet.

OR ARE THERE MORE?!?!?!
This guy is new. Yes, the makes two. Tgo called out the PA one.

[Methais]

This guy is new. Yes, the makes two. Tgo called out the PA one.

https://media.giphy.com/media/dWEk3w1Uo97qw/giphy.gif

[Seran]

Versus Justin Amash in the House, Andy McKean in the Iowa legislature defecting specifically because Trump. Is this news? Not really, but whatever you wanna sling around.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Versus Justin Amash in the House, Andy McKean in the Iowa legislature defecting specifically because Trump. Is this news? Not really, but whatever you wanna sling around.

I've never heard of any of these foo's, dem or repub.

[Methais]

Party switching always makes me think of this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BppB_X_jlkw

[Tgo01]

Versus Justin Amash in the House, Andy McKean in the Iowa legislature defecting specifically because Trump. Is this news? Not really, but whatever you wanna sling around.

I’m pretty sure you were creaming your pants when Amash switched, but now this sort of thing isn’t news.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/12/15/rudy_giuliani_ukrainian_witnesses_destroy_schiffs_ case_and_prove_money_laundering_by_burisma_and_bid ens.html

Giuliani: Ukrainian Witnesses Destroy Schiff's Case, Prove Money Laundering By Burisma And Bidens
Now what... surely they cannot ignore Guiliani's "evidence" right?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

AMERICA"S MAYOR SAYS ITS SO.

LETS DO SOME PUSHUPS.

[Tgo01]

The Democrats are now suggesting Trump committed bribery AND wire fraud, which they also point out is a crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

Democrats have literally gone insane. And who can blame them? They have people like Seran and Back to suck their dicks every time they somehow top their previous amount of crazy.

[Seran]

The Democrats are now suggesting Trump committed bribery AND wire fraud, which they also point out is a crime punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

Democrats have literally gone insane. And who can blame them? They have people like Seran and Back to suck their dicks every time they somehow top their previous amount of crazy.

He did commit bribery. It was Giuliani who committed wire fraud however.

[Tgo01]

He did commit bribery. It was Giuliani who committed wire fraud however.

Funny I don't recall you referring to it as bribery until after Democrats conducted their focus group.

You also admit that Democrats have gone beyond crazy by suggesting Trump committed wire fraud and should face up to 20 years in prison.

You're only 50% crazy then.

[Wrathbringer]

He did commit bribery. It was Giuliani who committed wire fraud however.

U r dumb

[Methais]

U r dumb

This is correct.

[Tgo01]

It's kind of disgusting watching the media and Democrats in the wake of the FISA court abuses committed by the FBI.

For years now Trump, Republicans, and even some Democrats have cried foul at the FBI for what they did and for years the Democrats and their media lapdogs slandered them all as Russian assets for even THINKING of criticizing the FBI. Now Democrats and the media are like "Oh, I guess it's a big deal after all."

No apologies or anything, more like "Well shit it was fun slandering people with impunity while it lasted, guess we gotta be honest now though."

But let's not forget the most important thing of all: BUT ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

What a snowflake moron.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/475068-schiff-trump-comments-about-me-designed-to-be-a-threat


Rep. Adam Schiff (https://thehill.com/people/adam-schiff) (D-Calif.) said recent comments from President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) about him constituted a threat.

I mean, does anyone take this guy seriously? He's such a fairy. I seriously hope he gets investigated for his constant lies in the house and in his interviews. Remember how he was adamant he had evidence of Russian collusion? Fucking investigate him. You shouldn't be able to lie in congress like that, costing millions of taxpayer dollars in an investigation that is baseless.
Rep. Adam Schiff (https://thehill.com/people/adam-schiff) (D-Calif.) said recent comments from President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) about him constituted a threat.

[Methais]

What a snowflake moron.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/475068-schiff-trump-comments-about-me-designed-to-be-a-threat


Rep. Adam Schiff (https://thehill.com/people/adam-schiff) (D-Calif.) said recent comments from President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) about him constituted a threat.

I mean, does anyone take this guy seriously? He's such a fairy. I seriously hope he gets investigated for his constant lies in the house and in his interviews. Remember how he was adamant he had evidence of Russian collusion? Fucking investigate him. You shouldn't be able to lie in congress like that, costing millions of taxpayer dollars in an investigation that is baseless.
Rep. Adam Schiff (https://thehill.com/people/adam-schiff) (D-Calif.) said recent comments from President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) about him constituted a threat.

In before Back shows up saying it really is a threat and Trump should be EXTRA IMPEACHED for it.

[Tgo01]

Shit just got real!

A House member flashed the "white power" symbol at today's impeachment hearing!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMGspsfUwAALaei?format=jpg&name=medium

I sure hope this leads to a house investigation which ultimately leads to Maxine Waters' removal from office! This white supremacy has to stop!!!

[Fierna]

Shit just got real!

A House member flashed the "white power" symbol at today's impeachment hearing!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMGspsfUwAALaei?format=jpg&name=medium

I sure hope this leads to a house investigation which ultimately leads to Maxine Waters' removal from office! This white supremacy has to stop!!!

https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Harrison-Tarrant.jpg

This is the “White Power” symbol, it’s an upside down OK sign. The three fingers form a W and the P forms the word Power.

[Seizer]

https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Harrison-Tarrant.jpg

This is the “White Power” symbol, it’s an upside down OK sign. The three fingers form a W and the P forms the word Power.
MacGuyver you’re retarded.

[Parkbandit]

https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Harrison-Tarrant.jpg

This is the “White Power” symbol, it’s an upside down OK sign. The three fingers form a W and the P forms the word Power.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/Txun6ahh9auWs/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Harrison-Tarrant.jpg

This is the “White Power” symbol, it’s an upside down OK sign. The three fingers form a W and the P forms the word Power.

I'm assuming you're just trolling but Back will probably read your post and think "OH! That's why it's okay when Democrats do it!" so to explain to Back: No. The supposed "white power" symbol is indeed just the regular "okay" hand symbol.

Let's go to the far left ADL for the details!

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/styles/max_650x650/public/2019-04/OkayLarge267x296.jpg?itok=BAkTglHS

If anything the upside down okay hand sign is indeed the circle game so the cadets at that football game were playing the circle game. However Maxine Waters was using the ACTUAL white supremacist symbol and I for one hope she is removed from office over this egregious display of white supremacy.

[Methais]

https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Brenton-Harrison-Tarrant.jpg

This is the “White Power” symbol, it’s an upside down OK sign. The three fingers form a W and the P forms the word Power.

That would be an M and not a W.

E for effort though.

https://i.imgflip.com/wwfy8.jpg

[Tgo01]

So the fucktards went ahead and impeached a sitting US president because of a fucking phone call.

What an absolute shitshow the Democrats have turned our Democracy into. If you're still going along with this shit you are just as pathetic as each and every single Democrat who voted for this bullshit, which by the way only Democrats voted for this shit.

The Democrats literally cheered and applauded after Pelosi read that the measure had passed. Just proves this was not being taken seriously and had nothing to do with justice, they literally CHEERED that they just impeached the president over a phone call. Fuck each and every single Democrat in congress.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

He'll be acquitted in the senate, and reelected in November. No worries.

[Alashir]

So the fucktards went ahead and impeached a sitting US president because of a fucking phone call.

What an absolute shitshow the Democrats have turned our Democracy into. If you're still going along with this shit you are just as pathetic as each and every single Democrat who voted for this bullshit, which by the way only Democrats voted for this shit.

The Democrats literally cheered and applauded after Pelosi read that the measure had passed. Just proves this was not being taken seriously and had nothing to do with justice, they literally CHEERED that they just impeached the president over a phone call. Fuck each and every single Democrat in congress.

One of the answers in ;colmaster is spelled wrong. (Breastplate)

[Tgo01]

One of the answers in ;colmaster is spelled wrong. (Breastplate)

"Breastsplate." It's plural, dammit!

Also fixed.

[Taernath]

So the fucktards went ahead and impeached a sitting US president because of a fucking phone call.

rekt

[Tgo01]

Only question now is the senate going to say "fuck you" to the house and just dismiss the charges outright, or they going to go through with an actual trial and allow the Democrats in the senate to further make a mockery of our Democracy.

[Tgo01]

Pelosi says since the Republicans in the senate are being meanie heads she hasn't ruled out the possibility of just not sending the articles of impeachment to the senate.

What an absolute joke and disgrace.

[Risen]

A small factoid: Donald J. Trump is now a member of the second-most exclusive fraternity of us presidents. Another small factoid: he can never be a member of the most exclusive fraternity of us presidents. A prediction: he won't be granted his own exclusive fraternity of us presidents.

In terms of what will happen in the Senate: The charges cannot be dismissed. There can be an agreement to the procedures the Senate will use during the Senate hearings as to whether or not any other issues of substance should be reviewed by the Senate prior to proceeding to a vote on guilt. At the very least republicans will still return to the saw of wanting to parade the whistleblower publicly. For that to happen, the trial hearings will occur.

As a third small factoid: So far, neither party has attempted to bring this to the Supreme Court largely because the Supreme Court by precedent has said it cannot weigh in on political matters. An outright dismissal, if attempted, could successfully be petitioned to the Supreme Court as a legal constitutional matter, though. Based on this, no, neither party can allow that to happen. It would be disastrous to the republican mantra to leave this hanging open long enough to wend through the Supreme Court. They'll follow form. They have no choice. How the vote will tally is also a foregone conclusion.

Not a factoid, but a guess: From here on, the shit show only gets worse, as both parties capture images and soundbites to use for the 2020 elections, from House, through Senate to Presidency. And another guess: americans will no longer care to hear it, don't want to know who was right or wrong and have no attention span for any subtle nuance.

Leading to the prediction: 2020 will be hotly contested and still bitterly divisive. The country will not heal from this. It doesn't matter who is bad or who is not. And everyone is equally to blame for the outcome. There is no winner despite what at least one self-proclaimed embattled hero will claim.

[Astray]

2020 is gonna be interesting.

[Tgo01]

The charges cannot be dismissed.

I don't see why not.


And everyone is equally to blame for the outcome.

No it's 100% on the Democrats.

[~Rocktar~]

I can't decide if I think they should just do a quick vote to acquit or if they should take the time to do a real trial, call every fucking idiot possible including Biden and son, Schiff, Pelosi and all their staff to testify and hash out all this crap in public with real cross examination of the witnesses.

Also:


https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocratsLogic/videos/594390324709570/

[Tgo01]

Uh oh! Looks like many uneducated Democrats on Twitter didn't realize that being impeached does not mean removal from office because the number one trending tag on Twitter right now is #ResignTrump

What a bunch of jokers.

[~Rocktar~]

<snipped useless drivel>
In terms of what will happen in the Senate: The charges cannot be dismissed. There can be an agreement to the procedures the Senate will use during the Senate hearings as to whether or not any other issues of substance should be reviewed by the Senate prior to proceeding to a vote on guilt. At the very least republicans will still return to the saw of wanting to parade the whistleblower publicly. For that to happen, the trial hearings will occur.

Really? Says who? The Senate can vote to do what they want with regards to this farce.


As a third small factoid: So far, neither party has attempted to bring this to the Supreme Court largely because the Supreme Court by precedent has said it cannot weigh in on political matters. An outright dismissal, if attempted, could successfully be petitioned to the Supreme Court as a legal constitutional matter, though. Based on this, no, neither party can allow that to happen. It would be disastrous to the republican mantra to leave this hanging open long enough to wend through the Supreme Court. They'll follow form. They have no choice. How the vote will tally is also a foregone conclusion.

They have not gone to the Supreme Court because Impeachment is purely, solidly and constitutionally restricted to the Congress. The court has no jurisdiction. Next completely baseless opinion.


Not a factoid, but a guess: From here on, the shit show only gets worse, as both parties capture images and soundbites to use for the 2020 elections, from House, through Senate to Presidency. And another guess: americans will no longer care to hear it, don't want to know who was right or wrong and have no attention span for any subtle nuance.

Yes it gets worse, a lot worse. Yes some will want to hear about it despite your deeply condescending opinion of Americans.


Leading to the prediction: 2020 will be hotly contested and still bitterly divisive. The country will not heal from this.

This wound has been in the process of being made for decades by the elitist Leftist in the country and it has pushed the nation to the brink of a hot civil war. We are already in a cold civil war for the soul of the nation regarding who we are, what we will stand for and how we will proceed in the future.


It doesn't matter who is bad or who is not.

This is what loser shitbags say when they know they are in the wrong and want to appear conciliatory before getting their ass handed to them when the shit hits the fan. It's a lousy attempt at the old trope "Don't hate the player, hate the game." Both are the same, someone who knows they are in the wrong trying to save their ass.


And everyone is equally to blame for the outcome. There is no winner despite what at least one self-proclaimed embattled hero will claim.

Bullshit, there is one and only one party to blame with it's leaders whipping this dead horse since they lost the election even before the inauguration. Only brain dead morons think otherwise, even many Leftists have said as much. There already is a winner, Trump and anyone with a pulse and IQ over used toilet paper already knows it.

Get off your condescending high horse, grab your ears with both hands and pull until you hear the popping sound as your head comes out of your ass, then look around.

[Risen]

Come on down to the trenches and let's hoist some suds. Keep your leftist label-gun in your holster, and we'll get along fine. We'll agree that we're largely aligned on the immediate outcome, will each be amused and pissed by various antics tried by our ever-so-effective government, and we widely disagree on the long-term future. Then we can agree when we'll get together next and decide who really won over another round or 12. I'll even buy if my point about the Senate proceeding with the trial rather than just dismissing it doesn't hold.

Or you can keep ranting. But me, I'm grabbing a beer.

[Seran]

Uh oh! Looks like many uneducated Democrats on Twitter didn't realize that being impeached does not mean removal from office because the number one trending tag on Twitter right now is #ResignTrump

What a bunch of jokers.

Trump can resign without being found guilty by the Senate dipshit. The hashtag is counting coup for all those who believe Trump should resign in shame.

[TrumpTweets]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMFc_NjVAAAyGAk.png:large

[Tgo01]

Trump can resign without being found guilty by the Senate dipshit.

NO SHIT! REALLY?!

It's a bunch of morons who thought Trump would be removed from office when he was impeached, then when they found out he wasn't they wanted him to resign. Why should he resign? Because Pelosi's false teeth can't stay in her mouth when she speak her lies?

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I expected more out of this thread, this morning.

I am disappoint.

[BriarFox]

I expected more out of this thread, this morning.

I am disappoint.

What is there to say? I doubt anyone's changing their minds at this point.

[Some Rogue]

Suppose you could talk about the class it takes to tell a widow that her husband might be in Hell looking up at them.

[Methais]

rekt

They're about to be severely rekt.

I can't wait to watch Back's meltdowns after and say that Trump got acquitted because of Gerrymandering.

[Methais]

Only question now is the senate going to say "fuck you" to the house and just dismiss the charges outright, or they going to go through with an actual trial and allow the Democrats in the senate to further make a mockery of our Democracy.

I hope they go through the whole trial and expose all kinds of leftist assholes.

[audioserf]

I am not what you'd call a Trump Enthusiast but any lib who genuinely believes he's going to be removed from office (or resign) has extreme brain worms. Sad!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The complete irony of Dems saying unless they get a "fair" trial in the senate they won't pass over their rule breaking and rushed articles is fucking immense.

And I thought they HAD to get it done so they could start in the Senate ASAP... nope... just had to get it done before the holidays, so they can go fuck off for a month.

[Methais]

A small factoid: Donald J. Trump is now a member of the second-most exclusive fraternity of us presidents. Another small factoid: he can never be a member of the most exclusive fraternity of us presidents. A prediction: he won't be granted his own exclusive fraternity of us presidents.

He'll be the first impeached president to get reelected. That sounds pretty exclusive.


In terms of what will happen in the Senate: The charges cannot be dismissed. There can be an agreement to the procedures the Senate will use during the Senate hearings as to whether or not any other issues of substance should be reviewed by the Senate prior to proceeding to a vote on guilt. At the very least republicans will still return to the saw of wanting to parade the whistleblower publicly. For that to happen, the trial hearings will occur.

As a third small factoid: So far, neither party has attempted to bring this to the Supreme Court largely because the Supreme Court by precedent has said it cannot weigh in on political matters. An outright dismissal, if attempted, could successfully be petitioned to the Supreme Court as a legal constitutional matter, though. Based on this, no, neither party can allow that to happen. It would be disastrous to the republican mantra to leave this hanging open long enough to wend through the Supreme Court. They'll follow form. They have no choice. How the vote will tally is also a foregone conclusion.

Not a factoid, but a guess: From here on, the shit show only gets worse, as both parties capture images and soundbites to use for the 2020 elections, from House, through Senate to Presidency. And another guess: americans will no longer care to hear it, don't want to know who was right or wrong and have no attention span for any subtle nuance.

Leading to the prediction: 2020 will be hotly contested and still bitterly divisive. The country will not heal from this. It doesn't matter who is bad or who is not. And everyone is equally to blame for the outcome. There is no winner despite what at least one self-proclaimed embattled hero will claim.

Prediction: This gets annihilated in the Senate, blows up hard in the democrats' faces, retards like Back have huge meltdowns after Trump is acquitted, Trump gets reelected, then retards like Back have the biggest meltdowns in human history.

Hopefully after Trump's acquitted, democrats live up to their word from a week or two ago and try to keep impeaching again and again for all sorts of bonus self pwnage.


No it's 100% on the Democrats.

This is correct. They've been looking for bullshit to impeach over since the day Trump won the election and have made no secret of it.

Democrats have reached previously uncharted levels of butthurt.

[Seran]

Suppose you could talk about the class it takes to tell a widow that her husband might be in Hell looking up at them.

It's well established he has no class whatsoever and even fewer ethics, if it's possible to be so unethical that you're anti-ethics.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's well established he has no class whatsoever and even fewer ethics, if it's possible to be so unethical that you're anti-ethics.

Does it bother you he's just like the average American?

[Methais]

NO SHIT! REALLY?!

It's a bunch of morons who thought Trump would be removed from office when he was impeached, then when they found out he wasn't they wanted him to resign. Why should he resign? Because Pelosi's false teeth can't stay in her mouth when she speak her lies?

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/80188227_10157477376322535_4038719823314681856_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=YNyY-7MS7ZEAQllMJlmoD-w-t917ANPlZ9dNNw6ou4wHHo6PZSiiMqi-A&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=d97855845de285832c5f7dc0e2139006&oe=5EAEC426

[Seran]

Does it bother you he's just like the average American?

Yes, because unlike the average American who can be arrested for their illegal acts, the President is flaunting his immunity to prosecution.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Yes, because unlike the average American who can be arrested for their illegal acts, the President is flaunting his immunity to prosecution.

I would argue it's 100% fact he is not immune to prosecution, AND he literally has not been convicted of ANY illegal acts.

And he will not be. Sorry.

[Alfster]

Do you consider fraud to be an illegal act? It's a civil suit, but not being able to have a charity and paying 2 million bucks seems like something was illegal.

[Parkbandit]

Yes, because unlike the average American who can be arrested for their illegal acts, the President is flaunting his immunity to prosecution.

You still sound so triggered. Is it finally settling in that the Impeachment was a political farce that literally has no chance of succeeding?

Can you believe Hillary still isn't President!?!?!?

[Methais]

Yes, because unlike the average American who can be arrested for their illegal acts, the President is flaunting his immunity to prosecution.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Gt4FaBEFngjL2/source.gif


Do you consider fraud to be an illegal act? It's a civil suit, but not being able to have a charity and paying 2 million bucks seems like something was illegal.

Is this before or after dems polled their followers to find out which term(s) they thought sounded best so they'd know what they should impeach Trump over?

[Methais]

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/79715633_145120696902452_7949947652731305984_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=DETWbqzSFeUAQl69RUQb6gdxrH-ZRJc4zBE4XWLzQe50MHrsNBie8Cuzg&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=c274e58cdd32e50276dfc7411b35dfaf&oe=5E788E67

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/79886585_3200511423297496_5208578136316313600_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=HgyiLi3I788AQkK59SudZWtfKnc1StWgwg_eCl3BYe 3e7rtF_WstvC6zA&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=d56a683451be168655453ec510f2abdd&oe=5E6F95AA

[Taernath]

https://scontent.fbtr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/80188227_10157477376322535_4038719823314681856_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=YNyY-7MS7ZEAQllMJlmoD-w-t917ANPlZ9dNNw6ou4wHHo6PZSiiMqi-A&_nc_ht=scontent.fbtr1-1.fna&oh=d97855845de285832c5f7dc0e2139006&oe=5EAEC426

Pence would have to be removed next and Mother would never allow that.

[Parkbandit]

Do you consider fraud to be an illegal act? It's a civil suit, but not being able to have a charity and paying 2 million bucks seems like something was illegal.

Specifically, what "fraud" is he accused of committing and does it rise to the "High Crimes" that the Constitution is based upon?

[SonoftheNorth]

https://i.imgur.com/D7ccA8S.jpg

[Seran]

I would argue it's 100% fact he is not immune to prosecution, AND he literally has not been convicted of ANY illegal acts.

And he will not be. Sorry.

Because conveniently, as highlighted by the Mueller report, the Justice Department has filed a memo citing their opinion the President is immune to prosecution. Leaving the only way for the President to be held accountable for suspected crimes is the impeachment process. Had we turned this over to a civilian grand jury, I'm suspecting the process would have been FAR different.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Because conveniently, as highlighted by the Mueller report, the Justice Department has filed a memo citing their opinion the President is immune to prosecution. Leaving the only way for the President to be held accountable for suspected crimes is the impeachment process. Had we turned this over to a civilian grand jury, I'm suspecting the process would have been FAR different.

Yes, it'd have been over 3 years ago when the dems walked in and said "everything we have is based on this opinion piece by a never trumper english spy"

oopsie... edit to add "... funded by Shillary and the DNC"

[Methais]

Pence would have to be removed next and Mother would never allow that.

I'm about 58% sure that they were talking about Hillary.

[Risen]

He'll be the first impeached president to get reelected. That sounds pretty exclusive.

We can hope, and yes.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/fa2OvRj.png

I wish Back would show back up so we can laugh at whatever dumb shit he's going to post.

[TrumpTweets]

https://i.imgur.com/uQkbH4r.png

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/two-thirds-voters-say-democrats-want-to-impeach-trump-more-than-help-americans

Two-thirds of voters say Democrats want to impeach Trump more than help Americans
What's sad about this? 1/5 of Americans think dems in congress want to help Americans more than impeach Trump.

The kicker?

And the shocking sidebar: A majority of Democrats, 53%, believe this is the case too, said pollster Jonathan Zogby.

[Tgo01]

Suppose you could talk about the class it takes to tell a widow that her husband might be in Hell looking up at them.

McCain I take it?

[Tgo01]

Democrats: Trump is a threat to our democracy! We have to impeach him and remove him from office immediately!
Democrats after they impeach him: we are in no hurry to send the articles of impeachment to the senate.

What an absolute shit show.

[Seran]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/two-thirds-voters-say-democrats-want-to-impeach-trump-more-than-help-americans

Two-thirds of voters say Democrats want to impeach Trump more than help Americans


What's sad about this? 1/5 of Americans think dems in congress want to help Americans more than impeach Trump.

The kicker?

And the shocking sidebar: A majority of Democrats, 53%, believe this is the case too, said pollster Jonathan Zogby.

Fake News. How interesting this conservative rag is quoting a poll that isn't even on Zogby's website. Smells like serious bullshit.

[Tgo01]

What is there to say? I doubt anyone's changing their minds at this point.

True. Republicans are still like "Just how crazy are Democrats?" And Democrats are still like "LOL! Fuck the rule of law and our Democracy! ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!"

[Tgo01]

Do you consider fraud to be an illegal act? It's a civil suit, but not being able to have a charity and paying 2 million bucks seems like something was illegal.

Trump settled that lawsuit just to get it over with. Even the judge on the case recognized that the money Trump's charity raised went to the people it was supposed to go to. The whole thing was yet another Democrat shakedown because ORANGE MAN BAD!

[Alfster]

Specifically, what "fraud" is he accused of committing and does it rise to the "High Crimes" that the Constitution is based upon?

I think it's fairly irrelevant to impeachment. And he's not accused, he's admitted to misusing the funds.

As part of the settlement, Mr. Trump, who at first dismissed the suit as a political attack, made 19 detailed admissions, acknowledging, for example, that the foundation had purchased the $10,000 portrait of himself that was ultimately displayed at one of his Florida hotels.

He admitted to using the foundation’s money to settle obligations of some of his for-profit companies, including a golf club in Westchester County, N.Y., and Mar-a-Lago, his private club in Florida which he frequently visits.

And he admitted that the foundation had given his presidential campaign control over about $2.8 million that the foundation had raised at a veterans fund-raiser in Iowa in January 2016. Mr. Trump acknowledged the fund-raiser was in fact a campaign event.

The Trump Foundation, which Mr. Trump founded in 1987, disbanded last December after an investigation by Barbara Underwood, then-acting attorney general of New York. Ms. Underwood’s office found “unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more.”

It is illegal for charitable foundations to advance the self-interests of their executives.

[Tgo01]

I think it's fairly irrelevant to impeachment. And he's not accused, he's admitted to misusing the funds.

As part of the settlement, Mr. Trump, who at first dismissed the suit as a political attack, made 19 detailed admissions, acknowledging, for example, that the foundation had purchased the $10,000 portrait of himself that was ultimately displayed at one of his Florida hotels.

He admitted to using the foundation’s money to settle obligations of some of his for-profit companies, including a golf club in Westchester County, N.Y., and Mar-a-Lago, his private club in Florida which he frequently visits.

And he admitted that the foundation had given his presidential campaign control over about $2.8 million that the foundation had raised at a veterans fund-raiser in Iowa in January 2016. Mr. Trump acknowledged the fund-raiser was in fact a campaign event.

The Trump Foundation, which Mr. Trump founded in 1987, disbanded last December after an investigation by Barbara Underwood, then-acting attorney general of New York. Ms. Underwood’s office found “unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more.”

It is illegal for charitable foundations to advance the self-interests of their executives.

Why are you leaving out the part about this being a shakedown and the judge even admitting the money went to the charities they were supposed to go to?

Or that for example the portrait that was bought was actually bought at a charity auction?

Do those facts hurt your unbridled rage?

[Alfster]

Trump settled that lawsuit just to get it over with. Even the judge on the case recognized that the money Trump's charity raised went to the people it was supposed to go to. The whole thing was yet another Democrat shakedown because ORANGE MAN BAD!

You really need better sources for your information. He admitted to misusing the funds. They liquidated 1.7 million and he paid back two million which covered what he illegally used.

[Tgo01]

You really need better sources for your information. He admitted to misusing the funds. They liquidated 1.7 million and he paid back two million which covered what he illegally used.

Here's the actual document submitted to the court showing the Trump foundation donated the money to veteran's charities in 2016, the liquidation and 2 million dollars is in ADDITION to the money the foundation had already donated.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190110001949/https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/ex_22.pdf


But Scarpulla reasoned that Trump had agreed to dissolve the foundation, and the money raised at the Des Moines event did eventually reach charitable organizations tied to veterans.

Why do you hate facts so much? Is it because ORANGE MAN BAD?!

[Alfster]

Here's her ruling.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=tOMnNab_PLUS_PiNjvAeFP7v54A= =

“A review of the record … establishes that Mr. Trump breached his fiduciary duty to the Foundation and that waste occurred to the Foundation,” she wrote. “Mr. Trump’s fiduciary duty breaches included allowing his campaign to orchestrate the Fundraiser, allowing his campaign, instead of the Foundation, to direct distribution of the Funds, and using the Fundraiser and distribution of the Funds to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign.”

Scarpulla said that she found that the $2.8 million raised at the Iowa fundraiser “was used for Mr. Trump’s political campaign and disbursed by Mr. Trump’s campaign staff, rather than by the Foundation, in violation” of several laws. However, she ordered Trump to pay $2 million in waste damages — not the full $2.8 million sought by the attorney general — because “the Funds did ultimately reach their intended destinations, i.e., charitable organizations supporting veterans,”

[Tgo01]

Here's her ruling.

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=tOMnNab_PLUS_PiNjvAeFP7v54A= =

“A review of the record … establishes that Mr. Trump breached his fiduciary duty to the Foundation and that waste occurred to the Foundation,” she wrote. “Mr. Trump’s fiduciary duty breaches included allowing his campaign to orchestrate the Fundraiser, allowing his campaign, instead of the Foundation, to direct distribution of the Funds, and using the Fundraiser and distribution of the Funds to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign.”

Scarpulla said that she found that the $2.8 million raised at the Iowa fundraiser “was used for Mr. Trump’s political campaign and disbursed by Mr. Trump’s campaign staff, rather than by the Foundation, in violation” of several laws. However, she ordered Trump to pay $2 million in waste damages — not the full $2.8 million sought by the attorney general — because “the Funds did ultimately reach their intended destinations, i.e., charitable organizations supporting veterans,”

Yes they got Trump on a technicality because the state wasted so many resources investigating Trump that the best they could come up with is he raised money for veteran charities but they didn’t like the way it was handled, not because he supposedly stole money from veteran groups like the media lied about and that you apparently went along with because it suits your world view.

[Alfster]

There it is. He didn't follow the law and they got him on a technicality

[Tgo01]

There it is. He didn't follow the law and they got him on a technicality

There it is. He didn't steal from veteran's groups like the lying media told you that he did. I bet this is the first time you've been educated on the actual facts of the case isn't it? Don't be shy, you can tell the truth here.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You are both correct.

[Tgo01]

It's beyond hilarious how Democrats are holding the articles of impeachment until the mean Republicans in the senate show proof of a "fair trial." Since when does the government and prosecution get to demand a "fair trial", isn't that something that the accused is guaranteed? The Democrats, who have been shitting all over our democracy for over 3 years, are somehow acting like the victims in this impeachment sham.

I just want one Democrat or TDS sufferer, just one, to explain to me how you can still go a long with this obvious political hit job? Is the answer really just "ORANGE MAN BAD!" because there is literally no other reason I can think of.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You say orange man bad too much dood

[Tgo01]

You say orange man bad too much dood

But Orange Man Bad!

[Some Rogue]

McCain I take it?

No, Dingell from Michigan. This just happened yesterday.

[Tgo01]

No, Dingell from Michigan. This just happened yesterday.

Oh well.

Oh wait, am I supposed to get outraged that Trump was mean to the people who are constantly threatening him, his supporters, and Republicans in general?

Oh...oh...oh! This is outrageous! How dare Trump say her husband is looking up at her! Thank goodness those perfectly normal Democrats impeached him.

[Parkbandit]

Oh well.

Oh wait, am I supposed to get outraged that Trump was mean to the people who are constantly threatening him, his supporters, and Republicans in general?

Oh...oh...oh! This is outrageous! How dare Trump say her husband is looking up at her! Thank goodness those perfectly normal Democrats impeached him.

Dinglell isn't threatening anyone.. he's dead.

Rule #1: Don't speak ill of the dead.

He should apologize.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Dinglell isn't threatening anyone.. he's dead.

Rule #1: Don't speak ill of the dead.

He should apologize.

It was Trump's usual douche shit. Dinggle made it into a huge thing that literally no one gives a shit about. He shouldn't apologize, and she shouldn't have made something of it.

[Fortybox]

Trump isn’t impeached until the Senate has the trial.

[Tgo01]

Dinglell isn't threatening anyone.. he's dead.

Rule #1: Don't speak ill of the dead.

He should apologize.

Naww. Republicans always being forced to apologize for saying stupid shit while people like Maxine Waters can literally get away with telling people to harass Trump supporters whenever they see them is getting tiresome.

[Tgo01]

Apparently John Dingell implied Trump was a Nazi sympathizer.

He also told Trump to "go to hell."

He also suggested 2 years ago that Trump should resign.

He of course also suggested Trump was a Russian asset.

Yeah fuck that guy.

[Methais]

Dinglell isn't threatening anyone.. he's dead.

Rule #1: Don't speak ill of the dead.

He should apologize.

Hitler's a fucking cunt.

I apologize.

To the Jews.


https://youtu.be/mU0RqqGVKbI

[Archigeek]

It was Trump's usual douche shit. Dinggle made it into a huge thing that literally no one gives a shit about. He shouldn't apologize, and she shouldn't have made something of it.

I read what she said, and I didn't think she made a big deal out of it at all. She said she's still in mourning and it hurt, but we should let bygones be bygones, or something like that.

Trump was being a douche, but he's not capable of apologizing, so I don't know why anyone would bother asking.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

he's not capable of apologizing, so I don't know why anyone would bother asking.

The things literally every dem and the MSM say about him? I'd give zero fucks what people think also.

[Seran]

Trump isn’t impeached until the Senate has the trial.

You're 100% wrong. The moment the House passes articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

The Senate conducts a trial to determine if the President should be removed from office. Even if this doesn't occur, the president has still been impeached.

[Fortybox]

You're 100% wrong. The moment the House passes articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

The Senate conducts a trial to determine if the President should be removed from office. Even if this doesn't occur, the president has still been impeached.

The President is impeached when the articles are passed to the Senate, which hasn't occurred yet. Impeachment isn't just a vote, it's a process.

Trump is not impeached.

[Tgo01]

You're 100% wrong. The moment the House passes articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

Nope. You lose.

[Tgo01]

Trump was being a douche, but he's not capable of apologizing, so I don't know why anyone would bother asking.

Why should he apologize? No one gave a shit when he literally told Trump to go to hell, he was even praised for standing up to a dictator or some such stupid shit, but Trump should apologize for making a joke implying he's in hell? Something tells me he wasn't joking when he told Trump to go to hell.

Fuck that guy who held onto that seat for decades then the minute he retires his wife takes over the seat, not to mention this guy took over the seat from his father to begin with. That fucking seat belongs to the people, it doesn't belong to this corrupt family.

[Tgo01]

Trump brings up a good point:


Nancy Pelosi is looking for a Quid Pro Quo with the Senate. Why aren’t we Impeaching her?

[Seran]

The President is impeached when the articles are passed to the Senate, which hasn't occurred yet. Impeachment isn't just a vote, it's a process.

Trump is not impeached.

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

The house investigated, debated and passed articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

The house investigated, debated and passed articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

I like how you are an internet constitutional scholar.

[Tgo01]

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

The house investigated, debated and passed articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments, so I guess the Senate doesn't have to wait for the articles of impeachment to go ahead and dismiss the whole case then.

[Fortybox]

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

The house investigated, debated and passed articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

"sole Power" means the House gets to interpret what the actual "offense" was and to vote on it. The House still must follow through with sending the articles over to the Senate.

The Senate has not received the articles yet. Trump is not impeached.

[Methais]

Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

The house investigated, debated and passed articles of impeachment, the President is Impeached.

You’re wrong and stupid and you should feel wrong and stupid.

Once the House sends it to the Senate, then he’ll be considered impeached.

[drauz]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMLn7c-WkAANMhe.jpg

[Back]

The President is impeached when the articles are passed to the Senate, which hasn't occurred yet. Impeachment isn't just a vote, it's a process.

Trump is not impeached.

Haha. You forgot to put "NEEENER NEEENER!!!"

Its like being charged with a crime before the trial. Trump without a doubt has been charged. It just has not moved to trial yet. Sorry to burst your tiny little fragile bubble.

[Methais]

Haha. You forgot to put "NEEENER NEEENER!!!"

Its like being charged with a crime before the trial. Trump without a doubt has been charged. It just has not moved to trial yet. Sorry to burst your tiny little fragile bubble.

Yeah but what’s the holdup? They could have done it before they left for Christmas.

[Fortybox]

Haha. You forgot to put "NEEENER NEEENER!!!"

Its like being charged with a crime before the trial. Trump without a doubt has been charged. It just has not moved to trial yet. Sorry to burst your tiny little fragile bubble.

He hasn’t been charged - the articles have not been sent to the Senate for trial. He is not impeached.

[Seran]

He hasn’t been charged - the articles have not been sent to the Senate for trial. He is not impeached.

And when the articles of impeachment are sent, I'm sure Fox News will be commanding all you dipshits to say that unless the Senate finds Trump guilty, then he's not impeached.

[Tgo01]

And when the articles of impeachment are sent, I'm sure Fox News will be commanding all you dipshits to say that unless the Senate finds Trump guilty, then he's not impeached.

No. Why so angry all of the time? You got exactly what you wanted. Or is that why you're angry? :(

[Methais]

And when the articles of impeachment are sent, I'm sure Fox News will be commanding all you dipshits to say that unless the Senate finds Trump guilty, then he's not impeached.

Why are you so salty at the fact that impeachment isn’t considered official until it gets sent to the Senate? Is it because Pelosi is in a panic now, therefore so are you?

[Gelston]

Haha. You forgot to put "NEEENER NEEENER!!!"

Its like being charged with a crime before the trial. Trump without a doubt has been charged. It just has not moved to trial yet. Sorry to burst your tiny little fragile bubble.

But he hasn't been charged until the charges are filed. If a Prosecutor just sits on charges and never files them, the person is never charged. That is what Pelosi is doing right now.

[Fortybox]

And when the articles of impeachment are sent, I'm sure Fox News will be commanding all you dipshits to say that unless the Senate finds Trump guilty, then he's not impeached.

You really are dense. If the articles are sent over, then Trump is impeached. The Senate then is required to conduct a trial and the associated outcome of that trial will determine the action taken.

I know you want to live in an America where you are guilty before proven innocent but it doesn't work that way.

[Parkbandit]

You really are dense. If the articles are sent over, then Trump is impeached. The Senate then is required to conduct a trial and the associated outcome of that trial will determine the action taken.

I know you want to live in an America where you are guilty before proven innocent but it doesn't work that way.

It did for #MeToo... why not this!!??

[Fortybox]

But he hasn't been charged until the charges are filed. If a Prosecutor just sits on charges and never files them, the person is never charged. That is what Pelosi is doing right now.

Due process goes out the window in the liberal mind.

[Fortybox]

It did for #MeToo... why not this!!??

Ha! - I was thinking the same thing. If the articles are ever sent over to the Senate and a trial is conducted, I am sure we will have a group of "anonymous" sources claiming certain things happened to them decades ago.

[Back]

But he hasn't been charged until the charges are filed. If a Prosecutor just sits on charges and never files them, the person is never charged. That is what Pelosi is doing right now.

haha. Read what you wrote. It makes no sense. If there are charges to sit on then there are charges. Trump has been charged. They are now in the trial set up phase.

The House may have voted "to impeach" but the act of voting with a clear winner means that the president "is impeached".

[Gelston]

haha. Read what you wrote. It makes no sense. If there are charges to sit on then there are charges. Trump has been charged. They are now in the trial set up phase.

The House may have voted "to impeach" but the act of voting with a clear winner means that the president "is impeached".

They voted on a bill, they have not yet sent the bill to the Senate. The bill is worthless until then. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?

[Back]

They voted on a bill, they have not yet sent the bill to the Senate. The bill is worthless until then. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?

What is the point of a vote in the House? To pass something. It has been voted on, majority won, so it has been passed. The vote has happened, the impeachment has happened, the charges have been agreed to and levied, that is all in the past. Now they set up the trial then have the trial.

[Gelston]

What is the point of a vote in the House? To pass something. It has been voted on, majority won, so it has been passed. The vote has happened, the impeachment has happened, the charges have been agreed to and levied, that is all in the past. Now they set up the trial then have the trial.

What is the point in Pelosi sitting on the charges? Ask her, not me. Until it is referred to the Senate, it was a vote and nothing has passed through the House.

[Back]

What is the point in Pelosi sitting on the charges? Ask her, not me. Until it is referred to the Senate, it was a vote and nothing has passed through the House.

From what I've read she is holding off until she can get an agreement to how the trial will be run. Namely, if there are witnesses going to be called or not. McConnell has already said he is working for the White House and president's defense.

She is in a tough spot. She is trying to leverage by not giving something the White House and Senate both don't want anyway.

[Gelston]

From what I've read she is holding off until she can get an agreement to how the trial will be run. Namely, if there are witnesses going to be called or not. McConnell has already said he is working for the White House and president's defense.

She is in a tough spot. She is trying to leverage by not giving something the White House and Senate both don't want anyway.

Yeah, i guess she'll wait until after Trump is reelected and then try and push it in. Until she sends it over, he hasn't been impeached. This happens often enough when the House sits on bills.

[Back]

Yeah, i guess she'll wait until after Trump is reelected and then try and push it in. Until she sends it over, he hasn't been impeached. This happens often enough when the House sits on bills.

We have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if the vote has been cast, the impeachment has passed. The trial is just to determine if the president stays in office or not.

But for the sake of argument, what do you mean by "passed to the Senate"? That some intern hand delivers the resolution signed by everyone in the House to McConnell? What constitutes a "passing of the impeachment" to the Senate?

[Parkbandit]

What is the point of a vote in the House? To pass something. It has been voted on, majority won, so it has been passed. The vote has happened, the impeachment has happened, the charges have been agreed to and levied, that is all in the past. Now they set up the trial then have the trial.

Dude, as usual.. you're wrong.

It's not a difficult thing to grasp.. yet, here we are.

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I couldn't possible explain it anymore slowly to you. If you don't get it by now.. you will just have to chalk it up to yet something else that is above your intelligence level.

[Methais]

From what I've read she is holding off until she can get an agreement to how the trial will be run. Namely, if there are witnesses going to be called or not. McConnell has already said he is working for the White House and president's defense.

She is in a tough spot. She is trying to leverage by not giving something the White House and Senate both don't want anyway.

She has 0 room or authority to demand anything from the Senate.

They’re in a panic because they know they fucked up + have dog that caught the car syndrome right now and they know they’re gonna get severely pwned both in the Senate and in the 2020 election.


Yeah, i guess she'll wait until after Trump is reelected and then try and push it in. Until she sends it over, he hasn't been impeached. This happens often enough when the House sits on bills.

Would it even be valid then? Or would they have to start it all over since it’s a new House and all that? And this is assuming Pelosi is even still Speaker, which I think there’s a decent chance she won’t be after this gigantic shit show that only the retard elite like Backlash are getting behind.

[Parkbandit]

We have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if the vote has been cast, the impeachment has passed. The trial is just to determine if the president stays in office or not.

But for the sake of argument, what do you mean by "passed to the Senate"? That some intern hand delivers the resolution signed by everyone in the House to McConnell? What constitutes a "passing of the impeachment" to the Senate?

It's not up for your opinion though. Like at all.

[Methais]

We have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if the vote has been cast, the impeachment has passed. The trial is just to determine if the president stays in office or not.

But for the sake of argument, what do you mean by "passed to the Senate"? That some intern hand delivers the resolution signed by everyone in the House to McConnell? What constitutes a "passing of the impeachment" to the Senate?

This isn’t an opinion based debate you fucking mongoloid. :lol:

Yes the impeachment vote happened and passed. It still isn’t considered “official” until the House passes it over to the Senate.

That’s it. That’s the fact. It’s not open to opinions. Everyone knows it’s going to happen, but it hasn’t happened yet, so until it does, Trump hasn’t been “officially” impeached.

Also, you’re stupid. Which is a hard fact and not an opinion.

[Gelston]

We have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if the vote has been cast, the impeachment has passed. The trial is just to determine if the president stays in office or not.

But for the sake of argument, what do you mean by "passed to the Senate"? That some intern hand delivers the resolution signed by everyone in the House to McConnell? What constitutes a "passing of the impeachment" to the Senate?

If that is all it is, Back, then why isn't the Senate acting on it already? It isn't considered a done deal until it leaves the House. It hasn't left the House yes, because Pelosi hasn't allowed it to leave the House yet. I am positive it will at some point, but until then, he hasn't been formally impeached.

[Gelston]

Would it even be valid then? Or would they have to start it all over since it’s a new House and all that? And this is assuming Pelosi is even still Speaker, which I think there’s a decent chance she won’t be after this gigantic shit show that only the retard elite like Backlash are getting behind.

I'd think it would violate 6th Amendment and the Supreme Court would throw it out and tell them to start over. I'd also assume a different House could simply withdraw the articles and they'd be considered dead.

[Back]

If that is all it is, Back, then why isn't the Senate acting on it already? It isn't considered a done deal until it leaves the House. It hasn't left the House yes, because Pelosi hasn't allowed it to leave the House yet. I am positive it will at some point, but until then, he hasn't been formally impeached.

I'm glad you can see that it is inevitable that this president has been impeached, thus for all intents and purposes is impeached, but what does it mean when you say the impeachment hasn't left the house yet? Seriously, is it delivered in en envelope? Email? What is that process?

[Gelston]

I'm glad you can see that it is inevitable that this president has been impeached, thus for all intents and purposes is impeached, but what does it mean when you say the impeachment hasn't left the house yet? Seriously, is it delivered in en envelope? Email? What is that process?

The same way any other Bill is delivered, by placing it on the presiding officer's desk or by formally introducing it on the Senate Floor. There is a lot of formality in Government. In the case of Impeachments and Trials, it'll be a House appointed Impeachment Manager that essentially acts as prosecutor that introduces it.

[Seran]

You really are dense. If the articles are sent over, then Trump is impeached. The Senate then is required to conduct a trial and the associated outcome of that trial will determine the action taken.

I know you want to live in an America where you are guilty before proven innocent but it doesn't work that way.

This is America and as we've found out, the Criminal Justice system extends only so far as it's politically expedient. Any other citizen who was actively defying a subpoena or caught lying under oath would already be jailed for contempt, yet this isn't an option for a corrupt President. Any other citizen has a right to a jury trial and yet the "jury" in the Senate has already publicly stated it's intentions before the trial even began. This would be grounds for juror dismissal or retrial. Yet again this option isn't available for a corrupt President.

The majority in our country wishes to see Trump removed, yet the Senate and this forum are clearly drinking the Trumper koolaid.

[Gelston]

This is America and as we've found out, the Criminal Justice system extends only so far as it's politically expedient. Any other citizen who was actively defying a subpoena or caught lying under oath would already be jailed for contempt, yet this isn't an option for a corrupt President. Any other citizen has a right to a jury trial and yet the "jury" in the Senate has already publicly stated it's intentions before the trial even began. This would be grounds for juror dismissal or retrial. Yet again this option isn't available for a corrupt President.

The majority in our country wishes to see Trump removed, yet the Senate and this forum are clearly drinking the Trumper koolaid.

You want the Speaker of the House to have the ability to imprison a sitting President?

[Fortybox]

This is America and as we've found out, the Criminal Justice system extends only so far as it's politically expedient. Any other citizen who was actively defying a subpoena or caught lying under oath would already be jailed for contempt, yet this isn't an option for a corrupt President. Any other citizen has a right to a jury trial and yet the "jury" in the Senate has already publicly stated it's intentions before the trial even began. This would be grounds for juror dismissal or retrial. Yet again this option isn't available for a corrupt President.

The majority in our country wishes to see Trump removed, yet the Senate and this forum are clearly drinking the Trumper koolaid.

You’re right, it is America. We have a constitution. I suggest the Democrats follow it.

Trump isn’t impeached until the articles are sent over to the Senate.

[Fortybox]

We have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if the vote has been cast, the impeachment has passed. The trial is just to determine if the president stays in office or not.

But for the sake of argument, what do you mean by "passed to the Senate"? That some intern hand delivers the resolution signed by everyone in the House to McConnell? What constitutes a "passing of the impeachment" to the Senate?

In your opinion? LOL. Your opinion doesn’t matter. What matters is the process as outlined in the constitution.

[Seran]

You’re right, it is America. We have a constitution. I suggest the Democrats follow it.

Trump isn’t impeached until the articles are sent over to the Senate.

You're right, so because the Constitution doesn't outline articles must be submitted to the Senate, we'll just assume that's what was meant and so Trump isn't impeached. Because the Constitution also doesn't state the trial held by the Senate needs to be impartial, we'll again just assume Republican Senators voting party over country is exactly what the founders envisioned. Nevermind all those Federalist papers outlining the exact opposite in both cases. /sarcasm

[Gelston]

You're right, so because the Constitution doesn't outline articles must be submitted to the Senate, we'll just assume that's what was meant and so Trump isn't impeached. Because the Constitution also doesn't state the trial held by the Senate needs to be impartial, we'll again just assume Republican Senators voting party over country is exactly what the founders envisioned. Nevermind all those Federalist papers outlining the exact opposite in both cases. /sarcasm

Dude, it is just like any other bill that exists. It isn't out of the House until it is presented to the Senate.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The majority in our country wishes to see Trump removed

You literally cannot substantiate this. And if you are going via polls, you STILL cannot substantiate this. It's 100% completely fabricated in your head.

[Jeril]

You're right, so because the Constitution doesn't outline articles must be submitted to the Senate, we'll just assume that's what was meant and so Trump isn't impeached. Because the Constitution also doesn't state the trial held by the Senate needs to be impartial, we'll again just assume Republican Senators voting party over country is exactly what the founders envisioned. Nevermind all those Federalist papers outlining the exact opposite in both cases. /sarcasm

Because so many things that the democrats want were desired by those who wrote the Constitution.... And claiming that those Republicans are voting party over country is only an opinion , it isn't fact and more than likely just fiction given the current state of the democratic party. Although in reality neither are really fit to lead the country we are forced to choose between one or the other due to laziness.

[Neveragain]

You're right, so because the Constitution doesn't outline articles must be submitted to the Senate, we'll just assume that's what was meant and so Trump isn't impeached. Because the Constitution also doesn't state the trial held by the Senate needs to be impartial, we'll again just assume Republican Senators voting party over country is exactly what the founders envisioned. Nevermind all those Federalist papers outlining the exact opposite in both cases. /sarcasm

Welcome to a representative republic, those Republican senators have constituents to answer to. Those constituents most likely don't support impeachment if they vote republican.

Simply put, Democrats are not winning over the hearts and minds of these voters. I guess that's how it goes when your last candidate called half the country deplorable, it becomes a tough sell at that point.

[Methais]

This is America and as we've found out, the Criminal Justice system extends only so far as it's politically expedient. Any other citizen who was actively defying a subpoena or caught lying under oath would already be jailed for contempt, yet this isn't an option for a corrupt President. Any other citizen has a right to a jury trial and yet the "jury" in the Senate has already publicly stated it's intentions before the trial even began. This would be grounds for juror dismissal or retrial. Yet again this option isn't available for a corrupt President.

This is nothing new with the political class vs. normal people and it applies to both sides of the aisle.

I know it only matters to you when it’s Republicans, but that’s part of why we laugh at you.



The majority in our country wishes to see Trump removed, yet the Senate and this forum are clearly drinking the Trumper koolaid.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGuhL4U2WyjdkaY/giphy.gif

[Fortybox]

You're right, so because the Constitution doesn't outline articles must be submitted to the Senate, we'll just assume that's what was meant and so Trump isn't impeached. Because the Constitution also doesn't state the trial held by the Senate needs to be impartial, we'll again just assume Republican Senators voting party over country is exactly what the founders envisioned. Nevermind all those Federalist papers outlining the exact opposite in both cases. /sarcasm

Impeachment is a shared responsibility of both chambers. Democrats must transmit the articles over to the Senate. Failure to do so means Trump wasn’t impeached.

Delaying only further demonstrates that these charges are bogus as any reasonable body would submit the articles in due haste if they actually were serious enough.

[Vindicate]

There is something very hypocritical about holding only to the articles until it gets closer to the election. Was the House impeachment for the good of the country or for the good of the next Democratic contender?

[Neveragain]

There is something very hypocritical about holding only to the articles until it gets closer to the election. Was the House impeachment for the good of the country or for the good of the next Democratic contender?

I think you know the answer to this.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think you know the answer to this.

Literally any person who votes knows the answer to this. The problem here is that people think it's ok. This will come back and bite the democrats, just like Harry Reid using the nuclear option has come back and bitten them.

[Methais]

Literally any person who votes knows the answer to this. The problem here is that people think it's ok. This will come back and bite the democrats, just like Harry Reid using the nuclear option has come back and bitten them.

I wonder if Backlash knows and just doesn’t care, or if he really is that monumentally dumb and gullible.

[Neveragain]

Literally any person who votes knows the answer to this. The problem here is that people think it's ok. This will come back and bite the democrats, just like Harry Reid using the nuclear option has come back and bitten them.

I think some extremist democrats are ok with it, just like they are ok with the Russiagate fraud and the Kavanaugh hearings.

For the most part this has resulted in the blue collar vote fleeing from the party.

[Parkbandit]

There is something very hypocritical about holding only to the articles until it gets closer to the election. Was the House impeachment for the good of the country or for the good of the next Democratic contender?

This was already answered when it was the Russian "Collusion" "Investigation".. and when that didn't work, they said it was because of the phone call to Ukraine leader.. and when the transcript of that didn't pan out.. it was just "OMG WE HATE HIM! SO WE MUST QUICKLY PROCEED WITH IMPEACHMENT FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY!!!! Well, let's just wait and take our time before we proceed....."

[Tgo01]

As many of you probably don't know because it goes against the media/left wing's narrative, Trump has been pushing for countries to decriminalize homosexuality.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-50901537

Zambia recently jailed a gay couple for 15 years for the crime of being gay. The US ambassador said it was bullshit so Zambia kicked him out of the country.

The US has also threatened to withhold aid from the country until they change their gay hating ways.

I wonder why the media isn't talking about this because it shows presidents use aid all of the time to change the behavior of less civilized societies?

I'm just surprised the media and Democrats haven't thrown gays under the bus completely and used this as more proof that Trump needs to be impeached for withholding foreign aid under a quid pro quo scheme.

[Ashlander]

As many of you probably don't know because it goes against the media/left wing's narrative, Trump has been pushing for countries to decriminalize homosexuality.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-50901537

Zambia recently jailed a gay couple for 15 years for the crime of being gay. The US ambassador said it was bullshit so Zambia kicked him out of the country.

The US has also threatened to withhold aid from the country until they change their gay hating ways.

I wonder why the media isn't talking about this because it shows presidents use aid all of the time to change the behavior of less civilized societies?

I'm just surprised the media and Democrats haven't thrown gays under the bus completely and used this as more proof that Trump needs to be impeached for withholding foreign aid under a quid pro quo scheme.

Double Secret Impeachment here we go! PUSHUPS!

[Parkbandit]

As many of you probably don't know because it goes against the media/left wing's narrative, Trump has been pushing for countries to decriminalize homosexuality.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-50901537

Zambia recently jailed a gay couple for 15 years for the crime of being gay. The US ambassador said it was bullshit so Zambia kicked him out of the country.

The US has also threatened to withhold aid from the country until they change their gay hating ways.

I wonder why the media isn't talking about this because it shows presidents use aid all of the time to change the behavior of less civilized societies?

I'm just surprised the media and Democrats haven't thrown gays under the bus completely and used this as more proof that Trump needs to be impeached for withholding foreign aid under a quid pro quo scheme.

BacKKKlash: "He's only doing it because Zambia is predominately black and he's a white supremacist!"

[Back]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senators-are-avoiding-rudy-giuliani-ahead-of-impeachment-trial?ref=scroll

Graham: Rudy Should Scrub Evidence for Russian Propaganda


“I wouldn’t trust Rudy to represent me in a parking dispute so I’d say avoid,” one senior GOP Senate aide said when asked about any plans for a Ukraine briefing.


Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani—partly because they fear he might try to pass off Russian conspiracy theories as fact, according to interviews with more than half a dozen Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides.


On his trip to Kyiv last month, Giuliani met with former general prosecutors and parliamentarians known for peddling Russian conspiracy theories, including supposed plots that involve Ukrainian intervention in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. When he arrived back in Washington, Giuliani updated Trump, according to two individuals with knowledge of their conversation, and said publicly the president asked him to brief Republican senators about the information he gathered.


“He wants me to do it,” Giuliani told The Washington Post in an interview earlier this month. “I’m working on pulling it together and hope to have it done by the end of the week.”


Since then, though, various lawmakers, as well as administration officials and national security brass, have privately expressed concerns about Giuliani's latest Ukraine jaunt, given that the Trump lawyer's efforts are what helped create this Ukraine scandal and get the president impeached in the first place. Both Democrat and Republican senators have steered clear of the president’s personal attorney over concern that the information he is trying to disseminate originated from figures in Ukraine known for spinning the truth or spreading outright lies.

[Back]

To comment on the previous post I'm glad someone in Washington has some sense and is not listing to that fool.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Daily Beast. Unnamed source. Anti anything Trump.

So basically... nothing new there. Typical short dick pedophile source.

[Parkbandit]

To comment on the previous post I'm glad someone in Washington has some sense and is not listing to that fool.

Lulz.. the daily beast.

Dude.. stop making this too easy.

[Methais]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-senators-are-avoiding-rudy-giuliani-ahead-of-impeachment-trial?ref=scroll

TR;DR


To comment on the previous post I'm glad someone in Washington has some sense and is not listing to that fool.

No one cares about your comments. We're just here to laugh at how stupid you are. I mean technically we do care about your comments, because that's your only purpose here is to be laughed at for being dumb, and it's extra funny when you think anyone except maybe Seran is going to take you seriously.

[Ashlander]

TR;DR



No one cares about your comments. We're just here to laugh at how stupid you are. I mean technically we do care about your comments, because that's your only purpose here is to be laughed at for being dumb, and it's extra funny when you think anyone except maybe Seran is going to take you seriously.

I doubt Seran even takes him seriously. He just wants someone to agree with.

[Wrathbringer]

TR;DR



No one cares about your comments. We're just here to laugh at how stupid you are. I mean technically we do care about your comments, because that's your only purpose here is to be laughed at for being dumb, and it's extra funny when you think anyone except maybe Seran is going to take you seriously.

These are both correct. Nb4 back posts "TC;DR".

[Back]

https://www.boltonpac.com/2020/01/statement-of-john-r-bolton/


During the present impeachment controversy, I have tried to meet my obligations both as a citizen and as former National Security Advisor. My colleague, Dr. Charles Kupperman, faced with a House committee subpoena on the one hand, and a Presidential directive not to testify on the other, sought final resolution of this Constitutional conflict from the Federal judiciary. After my counsel informed the House committee that I too would seek judicial resolution of these Constitutional issues, the committee chose not to subpoena me. Nevertheless, I publicly resolved to be guided by the outcome of Dr. Kupperman’s case.

But both the President and the House of Representatives opposed his effort on jurisdictional grounds, and each other on the merits. The House committee went so far as to withdraw its subpoena to Dr. Kupperman in a deliberate attempt to moot the case and deprive the court of jurisdiction. Judge Richard Leon, in a carefully reasoned opinion on December 30, held Dr. Kupperman’s case to be moot, and therefore did not reach the separation-of-powers issues.


The House has concluded its Constitutional responsibility by adopting Articles of Impeachment related to the Ukraine matter. It now falls to the Senate to fulfill its Constitutional obligation to try impeachments, and it does not appear possible that a final judicial resolution of the still-unanswered Constitutional questions can be obtained before the Senate acts.


Accordingly, since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.


For More Updates, Follow Ambassador John Bolton on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton

With Bolton testifying and Chief Justice John Roberts presiding over the Senate impeachment trial I predict Trump's resignation followed with the claim that he didn't want to be president anyway.

[Methais]

https://www.boltonpac.com/2020/01/statement-of-john-r-bolton/



With Bolton testifying and Chief Justice John Roberts presiding over the Senate impeachment trial I predict Trump's resignation followed with the claim that he didn't want to be president anyway.

Quoted for your future meltdown.

[ClydeR]

With Bolton testifying and Chief Justice John Roberts presiding over the Senate impeachment trial I predict Trump's resignation followed with the claim that he didn't want to be president anyway.


Interesting move by Bolton. If the Senate does not call him to testify, he will sell a lot of books!

[Methais]

Interesting move by Bolton. If the Senate does or does not call him to testify, I will suck a lot of dicks!

This is correct.

[Methais]

Pelosi Caves on Impeachment — Announces She Is Sending Articles to Senate (https://pluralist.com/pelosi-impeachment-articles/49999)

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[Parkbandit]

Hey, at least now the sensitive liberal snowflakes can finally state with authority, that President Trump has been impeached.

Of course.. it won't matter since he will be acquitted in the Senate.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I love the latest rumor I'm hearing.

Pelosi held up the articles so she could help Biden (since feel the bern and pocahontas will have to attend).

I love it if it's intended to stick a thumb in the squads eyes.

[Keller]

I love the latest rumor I'm hearing.

Pelosi held up the articles so she could help Biden (since feel the bern and pocahontas will have to attend).

I love it if it's intended to stick a thumb in the squads eyes.

"If it is what you say is it, I love it!" - Donald Trump Jr. responding to an email from Russian contacts alleging they had politically damaging information about Hillary Clinton, his father's political opponent.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

"If it is what you say is it, I love it!" - Donald Trump Jr. responding to an email from Russian contacts alleging they had politically damaging information about Hillary Clinton, his father's political opponent.

What politician wouldn't accept politically damaging information about a political opponent? Name one.

[Neveragain]

"If it is what you say is it, I love it!" - Donald Trump Jr. responding to an email from Russian contacts alleging they had politically damaging information about Hillary Clinton, his father's political opponent.

http://uniteordie-usa.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Hillary-on-RussiaRussiaRussia.png

[Neveragain]

What politician wouldn't accept politically damaging information about a political opponent? Name one.

Remember when Donna Brazile gave Clinton the debate questions?

https://i.imgur.com/RiqxKXr.jpg

[Keller]

What politician wouldn't accept politically damaging information about a political opponent? Name one.

The goal posts might as well be on Mars at this point.

[Methais]

"If it is what you say is it, I love it!" - Donald Trump Jr. responding to an email from Russian contacts alleging they had politically damaging information about Hillary Clinton, his father's political opponent.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/cXI55CK9F49NK/giphy.gif

in before fart sniffing

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The goal posts might as well be on Mars at this point.

Thanks for confirming, you cannot.

[Neveragain]

The goal posts might as well be on Mars at this point.

Remember when Clinton started calling everyone Russian assets because she lost an election, even our own service/congress members?

And you're still dumb enough to believe this shit.

https://thepeoplescube.com/images/Hillary_Button_Reset_Russian_Asset.jpg

[Back]

Thanks for confirming, you cannot.

My bet is most would not if that info was coming from Russia or some other well known adversarial foreign government. Only Trump is crooked, egotistical, and stupid enough to collude with enemies of the state for political gain.

[Keller]

Thanks for confirming, you cannot.

Forgive my intellectual humility.

[Parkbandit]

Forgive my intellectual humility.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/321HrzkqKyUt6cxCOI/giphy.gif

There's nothing intellectual about you at all. You are literally on the Backlash level of incompetence and ignorance.

Although he didn't creep on anyone's 13 year old daughter's social media (that we know of).. so you're literally below Backlash.

[Neveragain]

My bet is most would not if that info was coming from Russia or some other well known adversarial foreign government. Only Trump is crooked, egotistical, and stupid enough to collude with enemies of the state for political gain.

"The 1980's called, they want their foreign policy back" ~ Barack Hussein Obama

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

My bet is most would not if that info was coming from Russia or some other well known adversarial foreign government. Only Trump is crooked, egotistical, and stupid enough to collude with enemies of the state for political gain.

Do you just not watch the news at all?

[Keller]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/321HrzkqKyUt6cxCOI/giphy.gif

There's nothing intellectual about you at all. You are literally on the Backlash level of incompetence and ignorance.

Although he didn't creep on anyone's 13 year old daughter's social media (that we know of).. so you're literally below Backlash.

For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.

In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).

PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.

In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.

A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.

That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.

He's fucking weird.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.

In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).

PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.

In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.

A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.

That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.

He's fucking weird.

I'd argue we are all weird, but going so far as to check out his daughter is pretty fucking creepy.

[Methais]

For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.

In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).

PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.

In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.

A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.

That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.

He's fucking weird.

I don't know how much of this is accurate and I don't really give a shit one way or another.

That said, you keep talking about what a dick PB is, yet every time you show up here and start posting you're a dick to everyone.

Figured I'd make you aware of that since you don't seem to possess enough self awareness to notice.

[Keller]

I'd argue we are all weird, but going so far as to check out his daughter is pretty fucking creepy.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I don't begrudge you yours.

I just wanted to make sure your opinion was based on facts.

[Keller]

I don't know how much of this is accurate and I don't really give a shit one way or another.

That said, you keep talking about what a dick PB is, yet every time you show up here and start posting you're a dick to everyone.

Figured I'd make you aware of that since you don't seem to possess enough self awareness to notice.

Thanks bud.

I appreciate it.