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Neveragain
01-13-2020, 02:59 PM
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.
In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
It's almost like you have learned nothing about yourself since this creepy shit. You know, like being grateful that people lost their lives in a natural disaster because in your obtuse world poor people cause global warming and they all voted for Trump.
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Methais
01-13-2020, 03:11 PM
Thanks bud.
I appreciate it.
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Wrathbringer
01-13-2020, 03:21 PM
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.
In the late 2000s, I did what he said.
Tl;Dr version.
Methais
01-13-2020, 03:26 PM
Tl;Dr version.
:lol:
Parkbandit
01-13-2020, 06:53 PM
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.
In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
That's quite a story you have here...
So.. let's just pretend your story here has any facts in it (shockingly.. it does not)... in your head you believe that it's then ok to go on a 13 year old daughter's Facebook page to "get even" for her father?
Question: Does your wife know what a creepy mother fucker you are? Does she know you creep on 13 year old girls Facebook pages?
Also, I never claimed you are a pedophile... but if the shoe fits...
Parkbandit
01-13-2020, 07:03 PM
And let's not even mention that you claim it was the late 2000's that I upset you so much.. that a decade later, you are STILL creeping on my daughter's facebook page in an attempt to get even with me for "making fun of TheE not finding a job?
A DECADE??
Dude.. you really need to get some help. Or a better story.
Tgo01
01-13-2020, 07:11 PM
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.
In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
I’m not sure how you thought this explanation would make you look good, or at least not as bad as ParkBandit was claiming, you just come off sounding like a huge asshole and creep.
Seriously you stalked his daughter’s Facebook page years later to see if she did in fact become a stripper because her father played video games? You for real?
I wonder how children turn out who are raised by parents who wish death upon those they disagree with? Don’t worry, Keller, I’m not a creep and loser like you are so I won’t stalk your children to find out the answer.
Tgo01
01-13-2020, 07:14 PM
Honestly now, Keller, even if we take your story at face value, how did you think Parkbandit would respond to your message?
“Hey so remember years ago I said your daughter would become a stripper because you’re a horrible father? Well I just checked our her Facebook page and she seems well adjusted.”
As a supposed good parent you should be able to see the creepiness of this.
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.
In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
No you are fucking weird. And give me the creeps.
If ever you feel the need to look up (aka stalk) someone or even worse their family members because they pissed you off in a forum, you crossed a line.
I feel admitting that should be enough to ban you and any other accounts you make on here.
You did stalk his child, and you are fucking weird.
People piss me off fairly often online, and never once did I consider to look them up on other social media websites. But that is how 'well adjusted' people act.
~Rocktar~
01-13-2020, 10:23 PM
For the record, for those who continue to read PB's allegations, here is a timeline of events.
In the late 2000s, TheE, a former poster and all around good guy, was vulnerable with the forum and shared that he was struggling to find work as a young attorney (that generation of law school graduates is known as the lost generation because a lot of them never got jobs).
TheE was never a good guy, he was a whiny Leftist shill that cried about his inability to swallow his pride and look outside the high paying world of TV corporate law to find work in the real world outside of the top Leftist enclaves. Like the rest of his whiny generation entitlement they all cried because they could not work in their fields and would not move or degrade themselves to find less than the perfect job.
PB, who is notoriously mean spirited and generally an asshole, made fun of him for failing to get work. As I was surrounded by friends in similar situations to TheE, I was very observant of PB being a giant dick to TheE.
If there are jobs available and you refuse to take them because of pride then you deserve ridicule. Proud people starve.
In my anger, I lashed out at PB to try to make him feel as small as he was making TheE feel. In my attempt, I made a comment to the effect that PB is a poor father (he was, at the time, spending most evenings playing WoW and posting on the PC while having two young daughters at home) and his daughters would grow up with daddy issues and wind up being strippers. Very low blow and sometimes I regret that (although as a parent of a 10 and 5 year old, I have NO clue how someone can spend most evenings playing video games and neglect their children). I was young(er) and made some bad decisions.
So you were an ass and spewed condescending, judgmental opinions about things that you had no experience with and without a fair knowledge of the situation. In other words, you were the typical angry, holier than thou, Leftist ass. Got it.
A couple of years ago, I was curious whether PB's daughter wound up being a stripper. She was in college (so not 13, unless she is genetically not related to PB and therefore potentially smart enough to enroll in college that young) at the time and had a Facebook page. It looked like she was a well adjusted young woman. I made a comment to PB to that affect.
That's the long and the short of it. Now he runs around replying to most posts (and giving me reputation when he can) saying I stalked his 13 year old child and that I am a pedophile.
He's fucking weird.
Then you went way over the line, like most Leftist do in today's cancel culture, didn't have any moral hangup with going over that line and seriously, justifiably earned yourself the title creeper that PB calls you.
I don't know if you genuinely regret your decision and I don't care. I do hope you have changed, gotten help or whatever because if not, someone, somewhere will kill you over it once you get caught/prosecuted for real. Now I know why you and others were all up in my shit when I got stalked because some pussy couldn't find any other way to attack me or my ideas than to try and shame me over internet posts. You were right along with them in going over that line. Nothing I ever did online or in person was ever as creepy, stalkerish and just plain as wrong as what you did.
Tgo01
01-13-2020, 10:53 PM
The funniest part is I thought PB was slightly exaggerating what a creep Keller is. Then Keller comes along and is like "Imma prove I'm not a creep!" and ends up proving that if anything PB was slightly downplaying what a creep Keller is.
Keller: the man who wishes death upon people he disagrees with and stalks the Facebook page of a young woman because he disagreed with her father's politics. This man also thinks he's a good person, a good father, and has the utter audacity to talk about someone else being a bad father.
Keller, you're a horrible piece of shit. If you walk away from the PC learning one thing I hope it is at least that.
Seizer
01-14-2020, 12:16 AM
He's fucking weird.
Show us how to bake bread again? I guess baking bread is the win moment life?
I didn't/don't care for your postings or some of the other same politically aligned postings of people during the mid to late 2000's here. My disagreements with you/them never caused me to think "I should hunt down their social media accounts and see what they/friends/family are in your circle." It never crossed my mind that my dislike of your political postings on a forum would include discovering who you are, what your circle looks like, nor how can I humiliate you. You are defining your stereotype here. You are the weird one.
Solkern
01-14-2020, 12:52 AM
I think the reason why she’s holding the articles, Is because the republicans are refusing witnesses, or won’t allow trump to stand trial which goes back to Clinton, if trump gets caught lying to Congress, like Clinton was(or was it grand jury?) I don’t remember which, the republicans feel their hands would be tied..
Trump fucked up big IMO, but I feel that he shouldn’t be impeached, let him finish out his term and let the next election decide.
Every fucking politician lies, every single fucking one.
Tgo01
01-14-2020, 01:15 AM
I think the reason why she’s holding the articles, Is because the republicans are refusing witnesses
If Pelosi feels her case is too weak then that's her fault and the fault of the Democrats in the House. It's not the Senate's job to do the House's job for them.
or won’t allow trump to stand trial which goes back to Clinton, if trump gets caught lying to Congress, like Clinton was(or was it grand jury?) I don’t remember which, the republicans feel their hands would be tied..
Clinton was impeached for lying to a grand jury and also obstruction of justice. Both of which there was ample evidence of, unlike the Democrats' bogus obstruction of congress bullshit.
Trump fucked up big IMO
No.
Parkbandit
01-14-2020, 08:12 AM
TheE was never a good guy, he was a whiny Leftist shill that cried about his inability to swallow his pride and look outside the high paying world of TV corporate law to find work in the real world outside of the top Leftist enclaves. Like the rest of his whiny generation entitlement they all cried because they could not work in their fields and would not move or degrade themselves to find less than the perfect job.
If there are jobs available and you refuse to take them because of pride then you deserve ridicule. Proud people starve.
To be fair, TheE really is a good guy. You might not like him for his naive political views sometimes.. but the guy is one of those guys that walks the talk (unlike Backlash).
He actually joined the Peace Corps and worked in some real shitholes, helping people. Keller is just using him to create a back story of how he's not a certified, full blown creep. Fact is, everyone was making fun of TheE... none more than TheE himself.
I don't want to say anything more because I'm sure Keller is banging away on his keyboard right now, trying to track down my 13 year old neice's Facebook...
Parkbandit
01-14-2020, 08:17 AM
I think the reason why she’s holding the articles, Is because the republicans are refusing witnesses, or won’t allow trump to stand trial which goes back to Clinton, if trump gets caught lying to Congress, like Clinton was(or was it grand jury?) I don’t remember which, the republicans feel their hands would be tied..
Trump fucked up big IMO, but I feel that he shouldn’t be impeached, let him finish out his term and let the next election decide.
Every fucking politician lies, every single fucking one.
What?
You clearly don't understand how this process works. Pelosi gained exactly nothing from holding onto the Articles of Impeachment. She has literally nothing to do with the Senate process at all. And if you believe she held onto them to get some sort of assurances.. she didn't. She has no power in the Senate.
Latest conspiracy theory says she held onto them into 2020 (OMG EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS SUCH AN EMERGENCY THAT THEY HAD TO BE VOTED ON RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!) so candidates running for President that are in the Senate (Mostly Sanders, but also Warren) would have to go to Washington to be in attendance and not on the stump in Iowa.
Personally, I don't think she's that smart and just overplayed her hand.
Solkern
01-14-2020, 08:57 AM
What?
You clearly don't understand how this process works. Pelosi gained exactly nothing from holding onto the Articles of Impeachment. She has literally nothing to do with the Senate process at all. And if you believe she held onto them to get some sort of assurances.. she didn't. She has no power in the Senate.
Latest conspiracy theory says she held onto them into 2020 (OMG EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS SUCH AN EMERGENCY THAT THEY HAD TO BE VOTED ON RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!) so candidates running for President that are in the Senate (Mostly Sanders, but also Warren) would have to go to Washington to be in attendance and not on the stump in Iowa.
Personally, I don't think she's that smart and just overplayed her hand.
I’m fully aware how it works. She also wants a fair trial in the senate(which she has no control of)(and the the way the house conducted it’s investigation wasn’t very impartial either tbh)(two wrongs also doesn’t make it right) but based on separation of powers, checks and balances... it should be fair... but when multiple senators have already said on record they won’t be impartial, that imo is wrong. Last I checked Congress was separate from the president, not working for him right?
Or does congress now work for the president?
I’m Not agreeing with what Pelosi is doing, or this entire impeachment bullshit, just sharing my thoughts on why she held back giving them to the senate
Methais
01-14-2020, 09:16 AM
And let's not even mention that you claim it was the late 2000's that I upset you so much.. that a decade later, you are STILL creeping on my daughter's facebook page in an attempt to get even with me for "making fun of TheE not finding a job?
A DECADE??
Dude.. you really need to get some help. Or a better story.
YOU GOT OWNED SO HARD OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG I HOPE THIS TEACHES YOU TO THINK TWICE BEFORE MESSING WITH KELLER ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
Parkbandit
01-14-2020, 09:30 AM
I’m fully aware how it works. She also wants a fair trial in the senate(which she has no control of)(and the the way the house conducted it’s investigation wasn’t very impartial either tbh)(two wrongs also doesn’t make it right) but based on separation of powers, checks and balances... it should be fair... but when multiple senators have already said on record they won’t be impartial, that imo is wrong. Last I checked Congress was separate from the president, not working for him right?
Or does congress now work for the president?
I’m Not agreeing with what Pelosi is doing, or this entire impeachment bullshit, just sharing my thoughts on why she held back giving them to the senate
What legitimate reason did she actually hold them back though?
Methais
01-14-2020, 09:32 AM
What legitimate reason did she actually hold them back though?
Depending on who you ask, butthurt is a legitimate reason.
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Solkern
01-14-2020, 09:40 AM
What legitimate reason did she actually hold them back though?
Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what our dem president did. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.
Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.
But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.
My only concern is, why is trump refusing to let WH staff testify? Because he feels the house is doing a witch hunt? Fair enough, but if he’s done nothing wrong, and he’s innocent, wouldn’t you want these people to come forward and testify this? Him refusing this, no matter the reason, to me... shows some level of guilt. Let them testify in the senate, it’s controlled by the republicans. I’m just confused why an INNOCENT man, won’t let people testify under oath.
Can you give me a legitimate reason why an innocent man won’t let his staff testify to clear his name? I mean testify in public hearings by both parties.
I mean if you accused me of a crime, no matter how crazy and stupid I think it is, and I have people that can testify that I did nothing wrong... what reason would I have to refuse to let them speak up? It’s like I just scream “i did nothing wrong this is a sham and wont let the people who might know what really happened talk to anyone!” I don’t quite understand the logic of this
Methais
01-14-2020, 09:43 AM
Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.
Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.
But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.
After the way the House ran their "inquiry" can you blame them? Everyone with an IQ over 40 knows this whole thing is nothing but a butthurt fueled waste of time.
Solkern
01-14-2020, 09:46 AM
After the way the House ran their "inquiry" can you blame them? Everyone with an IQ over 40 knows this whole thing is nothing but a butthurt fueled waste of time.
I don’t at all, my previous post to that, mentioned that the investigation was bullshit on how it was run
Parkbandit
01-14-2020, 10:00 AM
Well let me ask you a question, let’s imagine the positions were flipped, and we have the senate saying “we don’t give a fuck, we aren’t going to be impartial, we are going to acquit no matter what our dem president did. Half of these forums would be doing the same thing the left wings are doing right now.
Now is it a legitimate concern? I believe so...
The senate is conducting a trial, are they not? Imagine the jury at any other trial said what the senate has said?
Imagine it was your trial and someone did shit to you, and the jury said we don’t care what the defended did, he’s innocent we don’t want to hear any of your witness or listen to any of your evidence. You’d be like why the fuck as well.
But after all that, it shouldn’t even be at this point. Trump shouldn’t be impeached. It’s the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money.
My only concern is, why is trump refusing to let WH staff testify? Because he feels the house is doing a witch hunt? Fair enough, but if he’s done nothing wrong, and he’s innocent, wouldn’t you want these people to come forward and testify this? Him refusing this, no matter the reason, to me... shows some level of guilt. Let them testify in the senate, it’s controlled by the republicans. I’m just confused why an INNOCENT man, won’t let people testify under oath.
Can you give me a legitimate reason why an innocent man won’t let his staff testify to clear his name? I mean testify in public hearings by both parties.
I mean if you accused me of a crime, no matter how crazy and stupid I think it is, and I have people that can testify that I did nothing wrong... what reason would I have to refuse to let them speak up? It’s like I just scream “i did nothing wrong this is a sham and wont let the people who might know what really happened talk to anyone!” I don’t quite understand the logic of this
You literally just said the reason... "Trump shouldn't be impeached. It's the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money"
If Trump agrees to testify.. he is giving legitimacy to this bullshit political witch hunt.
But you never answered my question: What legitimate reason is Nancy Pelosi holding onto the Articles of Impeachment? You said yourself that she literally holds 0 power on the Senate proceedings.. so she literally has nothing, absolutely nothing to barter or negotiate with. McConnell has told her this on several occasions.
Solkern
01-14-2020, 10:14 AM
You literally just said the reason... "Trump shouldn't be impeached. It's the hard left wings that are driving this waste of time, energy and money"
If Trump agrees to testify.. he is giving legitimacy to this bullshit political witch hunt.
But you never answered my question: What legitimate reason is Nancy Pelosi holding onto the Articles of Impeachment? You said yourself that she literally holds 0 power on the Senate proceedings.. so she literally has nothing, absolutely nothing to barter or negotiate with. McConnell has told her this on several occasions.
Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo
I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party
Parkbandit
01-14-2020, 10:22 AM
Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo
I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party
A legitimate concern over something you've already said was not a legitimate procedure?
We've already read the transcript of the call in question... there's literally nothing to this. This is still Democrats who cannot fathom that their candidate lost an election and have repeatedly attempted to overturn an election result.
And given the clown show they have assembled to beat Trump... it's looking more and more likely that it'll be 4 more years of Trump.
Methais
01-14-2020, 10:43 AM
Yes, he shouldn’t have been impeached, but he has been, so that’s a moot point. What shouldn’t have happened, happened... that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done properly, yes I know the house already fucked it up, but that doesn’t give the senate the right to do the same imo. The senate has the chance to do the right thing, have an impartial trial and then vote... I know everyone can’t be impartial... but to just openly say at the start, we don’t care, we are going to acquit and we don’t want to hear anything... is wrong imo
I answered your question is my previous post. I believe not having an impartial trial and senators already going on record about this... to me makes this a legitimate concern. What’s the point of passing along the articles, when no witnesses are going to be called and the outcome has already been decided?
Sadly this is the same shit that happened with Clinton.
Dems didn’t give a shit and just voted with party
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Why should anyone, even the Senate, take this seriously?
I'd like to see the Senate call all sorts of witnesses and expose all of the left's bullshit. I'm not expecting it to happen, but it's what should happen.
Solkern
01-14-2020, 11:25 AM
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Why should anyone, even the Senate, take this seriously?
I'd like to see the Senate call all sorts of witnesses and expose all of the left's bullshit. I'm not expecting it to happen, but it's what should happen.
If that’s what happens, then that’s what happens, i would just like witnesses to be called, and an impartial trial!
Solkern
01-14-2020, 12:37 PM
A legitimate concern over something you've already said was not a legitimate procedure?
We've already read the transcript of the call in question... there's literally nothing to this. This is still Democrats who cannot fathom that their candidate lost an election and have repeatedly attempted to overturn an election result.
And given the clown show they have assembled to beat Trump... it's looking more and more likely that it'll be 4 more years of Trump.
Wait wait wait, I said the reason he was impeached I don’t agree with, the procedure I have no problem with (although I agree it was a little fucked up on how they did it, but they followed procedure and went by the book if I’m not mistaken, unless you can show me proof that they broke laws or procedures allowed to them for the process.
Jeril
01-14-2020, 06:16 PM
Wait wait wait, I said the reason he was impeached I don’t agree with, the procedure I have no problem with (although I agree it was a little fucked up on how they did it, but they followed procedure and went by the book if I’m not mistaken, unless you can show me proof that they broke laws or procedures allowed to them for the process.
This makes it sound like you are ok with someone being wrongfully sent to prison/executed as long as procedure was followed. And you have no problem with their clown show of a procedure? What? Clearly if we can have a President impeached over dumb things like this and like what happened with Clinton there is something wrong with the procedure. There should be something in place that they must prove the President acted in a manner that is harmful to the country, not just their hurt feelings.
Seran
01-14-2020, 07:35 PM
This makes it sound like you are ok with someone being wrongfully sent to prison/executed as long as procedure was followed. And you have no problem with their clown show of a procedure? What? Clearly if we can have a President impeached over dumb things like this and like what happened with Clinton there is something wrong with the procedure. There should be something in place that they must prove the President acted in a manner that is harmful to the country, not just their hurt feelings.
That procedure is the Impeachment process and the subsequent trial by the Senate. The House and it's duly elected officials decide by majority to investigate and to ultimately file articles of impeachment. Hell, Darrell Issa investigated Obama for a possible quid pro quo and announced six months later they wouldn't proceed with impeachment.
The 3rd president in America's history to be impeached complained about the House investigations not being fair because he could not defend himself or call witnesses. Well, not only was that wrong, he totally could have done both of those things in the open hearings, now that the Senate trial is about to start, he has said he will try to stop witnesses from testifying. What a complete joke of a president. Its truly a special kind of stupid that makes it to the White House only to fuck it all up and go on trial to get thrown out.
Tgo01
01-14-2020, 09:50 PM
Didn't I say the Democrats would come back around once the senate trial nears and now that Pelosi has finally said she will hand the articles of impeachment over the Democrats are back?
Do you guys ever get tired of being useful idiots for the Democratic party?
~Rocktar~
01-14-2020, 09:59 PM
To be fair, TheE really is a good guy. You might not like him for his naive political views sometimes.. but the guy is one of those guys that walks the talk (unlike Backlash).
He actually joined the Peace Corps and worked in some real shitholes, helping people. Keller is just using him to create a back story of how he's not a certified, full blown creep. Fact is, everyone was making fun of TheE... none more than TheE himself.
-shrug-
If you say so. He never treated me with anything resembling decency and on more than a few occasions was a nasty shit. His politics sucked rocks and he supports some really evil people. That doesn't help support your good guy story.
Wrathbringer
01-14-2020, 10:45 PM
The 3rd president in America's history to be impeached complained about the House investigations not being fair because he could not defend himself or call witnesses. Well, not only was that wrong, he totally could have done both of those things in the open hearings, now that the Senate trial is about to start, he has said he will try to stop witnesses from testifying. What a complete joke of a president. Its truly a special kind of stupid that makes it to the White House only to fuck it all up and go on trial to get thrown out.
Your tears are as sweet today as they were three years ago. You lost and you still haven't gotten over it. Please, carry on posting your colossal butthurt. It's awesome. Not as awesome as your president, Donald Trump, but close.
Wrathbringer
01-14-2020, 10:48 PM
That procedure is the Impeachment process and the subsequent trial by the Senate. The House and it's duly elected officials decide by majority to investigate and to ultimately file articles of impeachment. Hell, Darrell Issa investigated Obama for a possible quid pro quo and announced six months later they wouldn't proceed with impeachment.
"Thank you for deducting reputation from this (L)user."
You're quite welcome, PC.
Seran
01-14-2020, 11:49 PM
Didn't I say the Democrats would come back around once the senate trial nears and now that Pelosi has finally said she will hand the articles of impeachment over the Democrats are back?
Do you guys ever get tired of being useful idiots for the Democratic party?
A prophet you are not. I and I'm sure others, just got tired of you bloviating and figured we'd wait while you punched yourself drunk. Now that things are moving forward, it's relevant to post. Get over yourself.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 12:00 AM
This makes it sound like you are ok with someone being wrongfully sent to prison/executed as long as procedure was followed. And you have no problem with their clown show of a procedure? What? Clearly if we can have a President impeached over dumb things like this and like what happened with Clinton there is something wrong with the procedure. There should be something in place that they must prove the President acted in a manner that is harmful to the country, not just their hurt feelings.
Yup, concur, but what I think is wrong, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done, plenty of Americans think what is happening is correct. All because I don’t agree with something doesn’t make it wrong. I think this way of thinking gets lost quite a bit. I may not agree with what’s happening, but if it’s done correctly and by proper procedure, then I respect the process of it.
That’s a problem in our country I believe, half the country almost will never agree with the other half. They have the thinking that what the left or right does is wrong no matter what.
Now if we take polls seriously (lol) then quite a few Americans think that he should be impeached.. while I don’t agree he should be impeached, but he has been. So I believe the senate should be impartial and not work for the president.
Tgo01
01-15-2020, 12:45 AM
A prophet you are not. I and I'm sure others, just got tired of you bloviating and figured we'd wait while you punched yourself drunk.
Oh is that what it was? Had nothing to do with the Democrats lying to you that Trump was going to get us into another war so you had to post every 2 seconds about what a war monger Trump is? Then when Iran bombed Iraq you had to blame the bombing on Trump? Then when Iran murdered 180 innocent people you all suddenly disappeared for several days only to reappear shortly after Pelosi said she would hand over the articles of impeachment?
Look if you want to fool yourself with this bullshit have at it, but leave the rest of us out of your fantasies.
Jeril
01-15-2020, 01:15 AM
Yup, concur, but what I think is wrong, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done, plenty of Americans think what is happening is correct. All because I don’t agree with something doesn’t make it wrong. I think this way of thinking gets lost quite a bit. I may not agree with what’s happening, but if it’s done correctly and by proper procedure, then I respect the process of it.
That’s a problem in our country I believe, half the country almost will never agree with the other half. They have the thinking that what the left or right does is wrong no matter what.
Now if we take polls seriously (lol) then quite a few Americans think that he should be impeached.. while I don’t agree he should be impeached, but he has been. So I believe the senate should be impartial and not work for the president.
Shouldn't that be the biggest issue here? What's being done has no basis in fact or reality. It's just peoples thoughts and opinions. Saddest thing is I doubt there is some way to punish the House for wasting all that time and money because bigger idiots voted them into office and don't care about that as long as they can cry about Trump together.
Impartial politics? Do you know what politics are? Especially when you involve a voting population? May as well ask them to fly you to the moon tomorrow.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 02:01 AM
Shouldn't that be the biggest issue here? What's being done has no basis in fact or reality. It's just peoples thoughts and opinions. Saddest thing is I doubt there is some way to punish the House for wasting all that time and money because bigger idiots voted them into office and don't care about that as long as they can cry about Trump together.
Impartial politics? Do you know what politics are? Especially when you involve a voting population? May as well ask them to fly you to the moon tomorrow.
I know what I want, isn’t practical at all... I know the possibility of having impartial politics is a fantasy.
Yes it should be a big issue, but what trump has done for half the country is also a big issue in their views, and the gov’t works for the will of the people... although that Will is sometimes skewered... but that doesn’t make it any less of an issue.
There is a way... vote them out next election... it’s the only way.
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 08:00 AM
Its truly a special kind of stupid that makes it to the White House only to fuck it all up and go on trial to get thrown out.
You still believe that Trump will be thrown out of office?
Speaking of a special kind of stupid....
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 08:33 AM
-shrug-
If you say so. He never treated me with anything resembling decency and on more than a few occasions was a nasty shit. His politics sucked rocks and he supports some really evil people. That doesn't help support your good guy story.
I say so also, and I was pretty opposite his political views. He walked what he talked about, even if he was a silver spoon kid. Him being wrong doesn't make him a bad dude.
You still believe that Trump will be thrown out of office?
Speaking of a special kind of stupid....
Getting as far as going to trial in the Senate is all I said which is happening and about as close as you can get to being thrown out of office before being thrown out of office. GG Trump. He fucked up at the highest executive position in America.
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 08:55 AM
I say so also, and I was pretty opposite his political views. He walked what he talked about, even if he was a silver spoon kid. Him being wrong doesn't make him a bad dude.
Exactly.
I think my sister is a whacknut lunatic because of her politics.. but that doesn't make me love her less.
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 09:10 AM
Getting as far as going to trial in the Senate is all I said which is happening and about as close as you can get to being thrown out of office before being thrown out of office. GG Trump. He fucked up at the highest executive position in America.
Literally, you quoted my post which quoted your stupidity. Here it is again. I felt the need to enlarge it, bold it, italics it, underline it and draw it in a pretty color so you aren't confused... but I kept getting an error so I didn't.. but the really stupid part was where you said "to get thrown out".
Its truly a special kind of stupid that makes it to the White House only to fuck it all up and go on trial to get thrown out.
Just like in real life.. if you simply didn't speak.. people might not know you are the dumbest person in the room.
You should try it.
Literally, you quoted my post which quoted your stupidity. Here it is again. I felt the need to enlarge it, bold it, italics it, underline it and draw it in a pretty color so you aren't confused... but I kept getting an error so I didn't.. but the really stupid part was where you said "to get thrown out".
Just like in real life.. if you simply didn't speak.. people might not know you are the dumbest person in the room.
You should try it.
Keep playing semantic games. The fact remains. Trump is as close as you can get to being thrown out of office by Congress. Have a great day.
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 09:46 AM
Keep playing semantic games. The fact remains. Trump is as close as you can get to being thrown out of office by Congress. Have a great day.
It's not a semantic game when you literally type it out.
But, I'll just chalk it up to you being bad at the English language... just like everything else.
Have a terrible day.
Seran
01-15-2020, 10:00 AM
Oh is that what it was? Had nothing to do with the Democrats lying to you that Trump was going to get us into another war so you had to post every 2 seconds about what a war monger Trump is? Then when Iran bombed Iraq you had to blame the bombing on Trump? Then when Iran murdered 180 innocent people you all suddenly disappeared for several days only to reappear shortly after Pelosi said she would hand over the articles of impeachment?
Look if you want to fool yourself with this bullshit have at it, but leave the rest of us out of your fantasies.
You're an idiot. I haven't posted at all about the President being a warmonger and before you use your usual cop out of "referring to Democrats in general" you said you, not your party in that sentence. People like you who make shit up, post sensationalist crap until you're called out, you're why this country is so partisan.
Methais
01-15-2020, 11:31 AM
A prophet you are not. I and I'm sure others, just got tired of you bloviating and figured we'd wait while you punched yourself drunk. Now that things are moving forward, it's relevant to post. Get over yourself.
No, because this happens pretty much every time. As soon as democrats put out new marching orders, you tards, especially BacKKKlash, start posting again tarding everything up. Then after whatever bullshit democrats were up to blows over and/or gets pwned for being full of shit, you tards disappear again until the next democrat manufactured scandal + marching orders surface, and the cycle of fail repeats.
Methais
01-15-2020, 11:34 AM
Yup, concur, but what I think is wrong, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done, plenty of Americans think what is happening is correct. All because I don’t agree with something doesn’t make it wrong. I think this way of thinking gets lost quite a bit. I may not agree with what’s happening, but if it’s done correctly and by proper procedure, then I respect the process of it.
That’s a problem in our country I believe, half the country almost will never agree with the other half. They have the thinking that what the left or right does is wrong no matter what.
Now if we take polls seriously (lol) then quite a few Americans think that he should be impeached.. while I don’t agree he should be impeached, but he has been. So I believe the senate should be impartial and not work for the president.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you didn't watch any of the hearings.
The Americans "who thinks what's happening is correct" are only doing so either out of butthurt because they didn't get their way in 2016 and still can't get over it, and/or from being extremely dumb and gullible and taking everything the leftist butthurt media says as gospel even after it gets debunked, i.e. tards like BacKKKlash and Seran, and if it were the exact same scenario but with Obama as president, they'd be screaming 24/7 about how unfair this is to Obama, and probably blaming it on him being black because identity politics.
TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 11:36 AM
You're an idiot. I haven't posted at all about the President being a warmonger and before you use your usual cop out of "referring to Democrats in general" you said you, not your party in that sentence. People like you who make shit up, post sensationalist crap until you're called out, you're why this country is so partisan.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5R1FM2PNw3G6AZWBsc/giphy.gif
Solkern
01-15-2020, 11:47 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you didn't watch any of the hearings.
The Americans "who thinks what's happening is correct" are only doing so either out of butthurt because they didn't get their way in 2016 and still can't get over it, and/or from being extremely dumb and gullible and taking everything the leftist butthurt media says as gospel even after it gets debunked, i.e. tards like BacKKKlash and Seran, and if it were the exact same scenario but with Obama as president, they'd be screaming 24/7 about how unfair this is to Obama, and probably blaming it on him being black because identity politics.
TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
You are correct sir, I haven’t watched any.
I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that you didn't watch any of the hearings.
The Americans "who thinks what's happening is correct" are only doing so either out of butthurt because they didn't get their way in 2016 and still can't get over it, and/or from being extremely dumb and gullible and taking everything the leftist butthurt media says as gospel even after it gets debunked, i.e. tards like BacKKKlash and Seran, and if it were the exact same scenario but with Obama as president, they'd be screaming 24/7 about how unfair this is to Obama, and probably blaming it on him being black because identity politics.
TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
Good lord. This is the best defense Trump and his brainwashed loyalists have? UR BUTTHURT BOO HOO!!!
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
You may not think thats wrong, fine, but he did do it, and lots of people think it is a horrible abuse of the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 11:53 AM
Good lord. This is the best defense Trump and his brainwashed loyalists have? UR BUTTHURT BOO HOO!!!
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
You may not think thats wrong, fine, but he did do it, and lots of people think it is a horrible abuse of the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
and right on queue...TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 11:56 AM
and right on queue...TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
Well, I do have friends that work in the Ukrainian and Russian gov’t who also will say 100% what backlash has just posted.
These are close friends who I’ve known for 7-10 years. Not sure why they would lie about it.
Edited: they also don’t think it’s wrong, just a typical Tuesday in politics
Solkern
01-15-2020, 12:06 PM
Ooh I can’t wait for the impeachment to begin! I hope it’s on during the afternoon, so it’s prime time hours for me! Got my popcorn ready! Gonna watch this shit on the big screen TV!
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 12:25 PM
Good lord. This is the best defense Trump and his brainwashed loyalists have? UR BUTTHURT BOO HOO!!!
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
You may not think thats wrong, fine, but he did do it, and lots of people think it is a horrible abuse of the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fYwL5SdCuvyqMcjhCF/giphy.gif
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 12:31 PM
Well, I do have friends that work in the Ukrainian and Russian gov’t who also will say 100% what backlash has just posted.
These are close friends who I’ve known for 7-10 years. Not sure why they would lie about it.
Edited: they also don’t think it’s wrong, just a typical Tuesday in politics
I don't disagree. It's how governments operate. We ask for things, and we condition the asks. Every President in American history has done it. Only Backrash thinks it's unusual.
Methais
01-15-2020, 12:58 PM
You still believe that Trump will be thrown out of office?
Speaking of a special kind of stupid....
Back doesn't believe anything unless it's what someone else tells him to believe. He doesn't have his own actual thoughts.
Methais
01-15-2020, 02:17 PM
Good lord. This is the best defense Trump and his brainwashed loyalists have? UR BUTTHURT BOO HOO!!!
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
You may not think thats wrong, fine, but he did do it, and lots of people think it is a horrible abuse of the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
TLDR: People like BacKKKlash are extremely stupid, gullible, and dishonest.
^
Methais
01-15-2020, 02:19 PM
I don't disagree. It's how governments operate. We ask for things, and we condition the asks. Every President in American history has done it. Only Backrash thinks it's unusual, but only when a republican does it.
Fixed.
Jeril
01-15-2020, 04:14 PM
Good lord. This is the best defense Trump and his brainwashed loyalists have? UR BUTTHURT BOO HOO!!!
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
You may not think thats wrong, fine, but he did do it, and lots of people think it is a horrible abuse of the powers of the presidency for personal gain.
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Methais
01-15-2020, 04:15 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO L
The best part is how any of these idiots think Trump needed Ukraine or literally anyone else on the planet at all to make Biden look bad when Biden does an excellent job of doing it himself every time he's speaking.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 04:23 PM
The best part is how any of these idiots think Trump needed Ukraine or literally anyone else on the planet at all to make Biden look bad when Biden does an excellent job of doing it himself every time he's speaking.
Honestly trump is bad too, not sure who’s worse.
Methais
01-15-2020, 04:38 PM
Honestly trump is bad too, not sure who’s worse.
Not really. Trump has done a lot of good shit. The media hates him though because 90% of the media consist of butthurt fringe leftists and extreme retards like BacKKKlash who have no capability of independent thought.
Biden would be a complete disaster for the country. Trump has the economy kicking ass all day long, unemployment is at record lows among all groups including all these minorities that the media tells you are too stupid to fend for themselves, etc.
Didn't you mention in an earlier post today how you basically have no idea what's going on in America?
Astray
01-15-2020, 04:55 PM
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Just remember, Back is also the guy that said, "without guns there would be no wars" at one point.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 05:04 PM
Not really. Trump has done a lot of good shit. The media hates him though because 90% of the media consist of butthurt fringe leftists and extreme retards like BacKKKlash who have no capability of independent thought.
Biden would be a complete disaster for the country. Trump has the economy kicking ass all day long, unemployment is at record lows among all groups including all these minorities that the media tells you are too stupid to fend for themselves, etc.
Didn't you mention in an earlier post today how you basically have no idea what's going on in America?
I was referring to his speaking skills :)
Gelston
01-15-2020, 05:28 PM
Honestly trump is bad too, not sure who’s worse.
Your opinion means nothing. Worry about your own shitty country.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 05:45 PM
Your opinion means nothing. Worry about your own shitty country.
Didn’t know America is a shitty country!
Not really. Trump has done a lot of good shit. The media hates him though because 90% of the media consist of butthurt fringe leftists and extreme retards like BacKKKlash who have no capability of independent thought.
Biden would be a complete disaster for the country. Trump has the economy kicking ass all day long, unemployment is at record lows among all groups including all these minorities that the media tells you are too stupid to fend for themselves, etc.
Didn't you mention in an earlier post today how you basically have no idea what's going on in America?
This is how radicalized people want to cover for Trump being an awful president. Its a weird combination of denial and projection. When someone is incompetent its not a grand conspiracy to come out and say it. It may seem like insanity to a blind loyalist.
Any normal person with a brain can see he's winging it, has no management skills, has zero diplomacy skills, is egotistical and very very sensitive, and a total liar. He got a pretty good economy handed off to him so he has not fucked that up, true, but his decisions are all suspect to the point his own people have been resigning or leaking their discomfort with his decisions.
The only thing he's done that I approve of is approving the Space Force. It was in the works before he took office but happy to see it none the less. While I don't think we should turn space into a battlefield it is worth doing to set up structure for our eventual move towards other worlds.
Actually there was one other thing but I can't remember it at the moment.
Solkern
01-15-2020, 06:52 PM
This is how radicalized people want to cover for Trump being an awful president. Its a weird combination of denial and projection. When someone is incompetent its not a grand conspiracy to come out and say it. It may seem like insanity to a blind loyalist.
Any normal person with a brain can see he's winging it, has no management skills, has zero diplomacy skills, is egotistical and very very sensitive, and a total liar. He got a pretty good economy handed off to him so he has not fucked that up, true, but his decisions are all suspect to the point his own people have been resigning or leaking their discomfort with his decisions.
The only thing he's done that I approve of is creating the Space Force. While I don't think we should turn space into a battlefield it is worth doing to set up structure for our eventual move towards other worlds.
Actually there was one other thing but I can't remember it at the moment.
Meh, I’m not republican, nor a blind loyalist, I lean left. But yeah... he does wing it, golfs way too much, and talks like an idiot, and he’s made his fair share of fuck ups, but don’t all presidents fuck up? And I don’t think he’s doing an awful job at all. Economy is doing great, employment is at a 50 year low(I think that’s right) he killed two fucking terrorist. All in all, damn fine job!
Would be a great job if Mexico would pay for that wall :D
Meh, I’m not republican, nor a blind loyalist, yeah... he does wing it, he’s made his fair share of fuck ups, but don’t all presidents fuck up? And I don’t think he’s doing an awful job at all. Economy is doing great, employment is at a 50 year low(I think that’s right) he killed two fucking terrorist. All in all, damn fine job!
Would be a great job if Mexico would pay for that wall :D
The main problem with Trump is his whipping up racial tensions and fears to get voters. His language about immigrants being rapists and murderers, his saying there were good people on both sides of the biggest white supremacist rally in recent years where an innocent protester was murdered, his calling countries with dark people "shit hole" countries while lamenting on why more scandinavians don't immigrate, his muslim ban, his painting American congresspeople as traitors to the country and telling them to go back to where they came from, his constant stream of hatred at his rallies and on twitter. Thats just off the top of my head. I've said it before. A good economy is not worth it when our president is a racist asshole.
Ashlander
01-15-2020, 07:23 PM
The main problem with Trump is his whipping up racial tensions and fears to get voters. His language about immigrants being rapists and murderers, his saying there were good people on both sides of the biggest white supremacist rally in recent years where an innocent protester was murdered, his calling countries with dark people "shit hole" countries while lamenting on why more scandinavians don't immigrate, his muslim ban, his painting American congresspeople as traitors to the country and telling them to go back to where they came from, his constant stream of hatred at his rallies and on twitter. Thats just off the top of my head. I've said it before. A good economy is not worth it when our president is a racist asshole.
It's like all you read is CNN...literally everything you typed has been twisted to make it look like that. You'd have to be a complete fucking retar....oh hi Back.
It's like all you read is CNN...literally everything you typed has been twisted to make it look like that. You'd have to be a complete fucking retar....oh hi Back.
https://youtu.be/F8qeny1dHuo
https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 07:43 PM
I see Backrash the short dicked pedophile has gone full retard again. It's like he's full retard and a pedophile.
https://youtu.be/e-Odk4n_KeY
https://youtu.be/K0q16V14cVs
https://youtu.be/CqLxxbjVG_k
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 07:45 PM
YAWN
Astray
01-15-2020, 07:50 PM
Who set Back off?
Tgo01
01-15-2020, 07:54 PM
You're an idiot. I haven't posted at all about the President being a warmonger and before you use your usual cop out of "referring to Democrats in general" you said you, not your party in that sentence. People like you who make shit up, post sensationalist crap until you're called out, you're why this country is so partisan.
So that's the only thing that differentiates you from the other Democrats in what I posted, you didn't specifically call Trump a warmonger?
You sure showed me!
Solkern
01-15-2020, 07:56 PM
So that's the only thing that differentiates you from the other Democrats in what I posted, you didn't specifically call Trump a warmonger?
You sure showed me!
How does it feel to be put in your place?
Tgo01
01-15-2020, 07:57 PM
Trump bribed Ukraine with Congressionally approved tax payer funded money meant to help Ukraine fight Russia in the interest of their, NATOs, and American security, to smear his biggest political rival in the 2020 presidential election.
I guess you missed the part of the hearings when even the witnesses with the worst case of TDS admitted that Obama gave Ukraine a bunch of blankets while Trump gave Ukraine a lot of lethal aid, which is something everyone agreed they needed.
But I get it, they don't discuss that shit on CNN and MSNBC so you probably missed it.
Alfster
01-15-2020, 07:58 PM
I'm just happy they're releasing parnas tapes today.
I guess you missed the part of the hearings when even the witnesses with the worst case of TDS admitted that Obama gave Ukraine a bunch of blankets while Trump gave Ukraine a lot of lethal aid, which is something everyone agreed they needed.
But I get it, they don't discuss that shit on CNN and MSNBC so you probably missed it.
It makes absolutely no difference what was used for the bribe. It was the bribe itself.
Tgo01
01-15-2020, 08:00 PM
https://youtu.be/F8qeny1dHuo
Trump's drug dealers and rapists comment was aimed at illegal aliens illegally crossing the border.
Why do you willingly be lied to by the "news" you consume, Back? Why?
Tgo01
01-15-2020, 08:01 PM
Didn't realize Back is currently having a melt down.
I didn't mean to interrupt your melt down with attempting a logical discussion, Back. Please, let the melt down continue.
Trump's drug dealers and rapists comment was aimed at illegal aliens illegally crossing the border.
Why do you willingly be lied to by the "news" you consume, Back? Why?
Not all "illegal" immigrants are rapists and murderers. Not even 1%. But bigots like you hear that from Trump, believe it, associate all immigrants coming from our southern border are all rapists and murderers when 99% of them are either trying to escape bad situations or are people looking for a better life for themselves and their families.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 08:07 PM
I bet the middle school closed early for weather today, so Backrash has nowhere to go and watch children, so he's at home melting down.
Tgo01
01-15-2020, 08:11 PM
Not all "illegal" immigrants are rapists and murderers.
You're right, but doesn't it feel good to finally admit you've been lied to all these years when people told you Trump was talking about all Mexicans when he said that?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-15-2020, 08:12 PM
Not all "illegal" immigrants are rapists and murderers. Not even 1%. But bigots like you hear that from Trump, believe it, associate all immigrants coming from our southern border are all rapists and murderers when 99% of them are either trying to escape bad situations or are people looking for a better life for themselves and their families.
My family has 4 legal immigrants from Peru. They think people like you are the bigots. They worked hard to legally immigrate here. Their family had a REAL reason to claim persecution, yet they didn't. They all respected the process, they all got their papers without marrying anyone, going through the process. You are the bigot who is minimizing their trust and effort they put into the process. You stupid motherfucker who NO ONE likes.
It takes NO effort at all to realize there is a process to LEGALLY immigrate to the US. It's not easy, and I'd agree needs to let more in annually. But that doesn't matter. It is against the law to bumrush our borders. They are ALL, 100% criminals for that fact alone. You cannot change that in any way.
Try to remember what we are discussing here.
My issue with Trump is his intentionally playing to the fears of his base with factually incorrect rhetoric while stoking racial tensions.
The actual issue of immigration and how we handle it is another issue. One I also disagree with this administration and the previous administration as well. In fact, Bush Jr was more in line with my views on it.
First off, drawing a line on the ground and calling that a border is a man made construct. The laws governing society are man made constructs. Both of which change as times change. The purposes of these things are meant to provide a guideline to order. When the order is broken there are guidelines for how to deal with it. Broken laws require steps to charge, try, and adjudicate. Different laws have different severities and punishments typically are balanced by that.
While there may be a "law" about crossing a "border" as being illegal the severity of breaking that law is minuscule especially when you consider there are women and children among them just trying to get to a better life. The punishment for that is to scale of the crime.
Trump has used his rhetoric to get votes and in the process knowingly insinuated that ALL of them are murderers or rapists or something similar which is not truthful. It misrepresents more good people than paints an accurate portrait of them and he knows this. But he does it because he knows people are scared and will vote for him if he keeps them scared then promises to keep them safe.
That rhetoric then spreads from not just "illegal immigrants" but Mexicans and brown people and then some whack job shoots up a Walmart.
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 10:54 PM
This is how radicalized people want to cover for Trump being an awful president. Its a weird combination of denial and projection. When someone is incompetent its not a grand conspiracy to come out and say it. It may seem like insanity to a blind loyalist.
Any normal person with a brain can see he's winging it, has no management skills, has zero diplomacy skills, is egotistical and very very sensitive, and a total liar. He got a pretty good economy handed off to him so he has not fucked that up, true, but his decisions are all suspect to the point his own people have been resigning or leaking their discomfort with his decisions.
The only thing he's done that I approve of is approving the Space Force. It was in the works before he took office but happy to see it none the less. While I don't think we should turn space into a battlefield it is worth doing to set up structure for our eventual move towards other worlds.
Actually there was one other thing but I can't remember it at the moment.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fYwL5SdCuvyqMcjhCF/giphy.gif
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 10:56 PM
The main problem with Trump is his whipping up racial tensions and fears to get voters. His language about immigrants being rapists and murderers, his saying there were good people on both sides of the biggest white supremacist rally in recent years where an innocent protester was murdered, his calling countries with dark people "shit hole" countries while lamenting on why more scandinavians don't immigrate, his muslim ban, his painting American congresspeople as traitors to the country and telling them to go back to where they came from, his constant stream of hatred at his rallies and on twitter. Thats just off the top of my head. I've said it before. A good economy is not worth it when our president is a racist asshole.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fYwL5SdCuvyqMcjhCF/giphy.gif
Parkbandit
01-15-2020, 10:58 PM
Try to remember what we are discussing here.
My issue with Trump is his intentionally playing to the fears of his base with factually incorrect rhetoric while stoking racial tensions.
The actual issue of immigration and how we handle it is another issue. One I also disagree with this administration and the previous administration as well. In fact, Bush Jr was more in line with my views on it.
First off, drawing a line on the ground and calling that a border is a man made construct. The laws governing society are man made constructs. Both of which change as times change. The purposes of these things are meant to provide a guideline to order. When the order is broken there are guidelines for how to deal with it. Broken laws require steps to charge, try, and adjudicate. Different laws have different severities and punishments typically are balanced by that.
While there may be a "law" about crossing a "border" as being illegal the severity of breaking that law is minuscule especially when you consider there are women and children among them just trying to get to a better life. The punishment for that is to scale of the crime.
Trump has used his rhetoric to get votes and in the process knowingly insinuated that ALL of them are murderers or rapists or something similar which is not truthful. It misrepresents more good people than paints an accurate portrait of them and he knows this. But he does it because he knows people are scared and will vote for him if he keeps them scared then promises to keep them safe.
That rhetoric then spreads from not just "illegal immigrants" but Mexicans and brown people and then some whack job shoots up a Walmart.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fYwL5SdCuvyqMcjhCF/giphy.gif
Ashlander
01-16-2020, 12:27 AM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/fYwL5SdCuvyqMcjhCF/giphy.gif
I love it when he proves my point for me.
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 03:13 AM
https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2020/01/15/Trump_Impeachment_48961.jpg-06d07_c0-80-4129-2487_s885x516.jpg?83b5c93050abd733c3a79f0bc859366e 79da73e5
https://assets.infowars.com/2020/01/pelosiw23986.jpg
Somber and sad time in our nation's history that no one in the House actually wants my ass. What a worthless hag.
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 03:16 AM
Oh yeah let's not forget the spectacle that Democrats made of actually delivering the articles to the Senate.
https://m.wsj.net/video/20200115/011520houseimpeach/011520houseimpeach_960x540.jpg
Are they for real?
I thought handing over the articles of impeachment was more symbolic, like "Hey here is why we are impeaching the president." I didn't think they literally hand delivered the articles.
And even if that's how it works does it really take 9 people to walk the articles over and oh let's be sure we tell everyone exactly what time it happens so we can have cameras rolling while we all look like we are handing over secret orders that will end the war 2 years sooner and save millions of lives?
Solkern
01-16-2020, 04:16 AM
Oh yeah let's not forget the spectacle that Democrats made of actually delivering the articles to the Senate.
https://m.wsj.net/video/20200115/011520houseimpeach/011520houseimpeach_960x540.jpg
Are they for real?
I thought handing over the articles of impeachment was more symbolic, like "Hey here is why we are impeaching the president." I didn't think they literally hand delivered the articles.
And even if that's how it works does it really take 9 people to walk the articles over and oh let's be sure we tell everyone exactly what time it happens so we can have cameras rolling while we all look like we are handing over secret orders that will end the war 2 years sooner and save millions of lives?
Hey, I thought what they did was extremely powerful, and sent a strong message that, we the people have had enough.
/end sarcasm
On a serious note, glad it’s moving forward, so it can end sooner
Methais
01-16-2020, 09:52 AM
This is how radicalized people want to cover for Trump being an awful president. Its a weird combination of denial and projection. When someone is incompetent its not a grand conspiracy to come out and say it. It may seem like insanity to a blind loyalist.
Any normal person with a brain can see he's winging it, has no management skills, has zero diplomacy skills, is egotistical and very very sensitive, and a total liar. He got a pretty good economy handed off to him so he has not fucked that up, true, but his decisions are all suspect to the point his own people have been resigning or leaking their discomfort with his decisions.
The only thing he's done that I approve of is approving the Space Force. It was in the works before he took office but happy to see it none the less. While I don't think we should turn space into a battlefield it is worth doing to set up structure for our eventual move towards other worlds.
Actually there was one other thing but I can't remember it at the moment.
Feel free to run someone who can beat him.
Oh wait, you can't because your party is the biggest clown show on the planet right now. Much like how you're the biggest retard in PC history.
Thanks Obama for giving us Trump.
Methais
01-16-2020, 09:55 AM
The main problem with Trump is his whipping up racial tensions and fears to get voters. His language about immigrants being rapists and murderers, his saying there were good people on both sides of the biggest white supremacist rally in recent years where an innocent protester was murdered, his calling countries with dark people "shit hole" countries while lamenting on why more scandinavians don't immigrate, his muslim ban, his painting American congresspeople as traitors to the country and telling them to go back to where they came from, his constant stream of hatred at his rallies and on twitter. Thats just off the top of my head. I've said it before. A good economy is not worth it when our president is a racist asshole.
I'd explain why you're so fucking stupid in regards to these things specifically, but it's already been done and you were too stupid to get it then, and each day you wake up you're dumber than you were the day before.
So instead, you can have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgZY6h-Z8-4
Feel free to run someone who can beat him.
Oh wait, you can't because your party is the biggest clown show on the planet right now. Much like how you're the biggest retard in PC history.
Thanks Obama for giving us Trump.
Dude, any one of the democrats are more qualified than Trump. My grandma is more qualified. Heck, grandma Methais is more qualified.
As for beating him, it does not matter who the candidate is, after what we saw in 2018, expect that blue tsunami to wash the republican red tide away.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 10:20 AM
Dude, any one of the democrats are more qualified than Trump. My grandma is more qualified. Heck, grandma Methais is more qualified.
As for beating him, it does not matter who the candidate is, after what we saw in 2018, expect that blue tsunami to wash the republican red tide away.
Quoting this to send back to you in November.
Trump to date: Best economy in history. Lowest unemployment since WWII. China deal signed. Undid virtually everything Obama. Defeated every single attack from liberal idiots. Will defeat the impeachment in the Senate. Kills terrorists. Stands up to foreign powers. Loved by millions. 2 SCOTUS noms, likely 2 more to come. As many circuit court appointees as Obama in 8 years (thank you lying Harry Reid!). Daily triggers people like you.
5 more years otw. Thanks Obama and liberal snowflakes.
CSPAN 2 will have the Senate setting up the trial with Chief Justice Roberts and others getting sworn in today.
When I think more about how Trump has tried to defame Joe, who has lost three immediate family members, by politically attacking his last surviving son, it just reaffirms how shitty and dumb Trump is.
Seran
01-16-2020, 10:48 AM
Oh yeah let's not forget the spectacle that Democrats made of actually delivering the articles to the Senate.
https://m.wsj.net/video/20200115/011520houseimpeach/011520houseimpeach_960x540.jpg
Are they for real?
I thought handing over the articles of impeachment was more symbolic, like "Hey here is why we are impeaching the president." I didn't think they literally hand delivered the articles.
And even if that's how it works does it really take 9 people to walk the articles over and oh let's be sure we tell everyone exactly what time it happens so we can have cameras rolling while we all look like we are handing over secret orders that will end the war 2 years sooner and save millions of lives?
You didn't think, that's for sure. All articles are hand delivered to the Senate, as are all bills going to the Whitehouse. If you're butthurt the articles of impeachment were walked by procession onto the floor of the Senate, I'd remind you that the Impeachment Managers on the Clinton impeachment also accompanied the bill being delivered to the secretary of the Senate. The only difference being Senate was not in session when Clinton's were delivered, so there was no opportunity to announce them on the floor.
Methais
01-16-2020, 11:05 AM
It makes absolutely no difference what was used for the bribe. It was the bribe itself.
On a completely unrelated note, what's your opinion on Biden's blatant QPQ and then bragging about it? What are your specific thoughts on Biden threatening to withhold money from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor? The prosecutor who was conveniently investigating the company that Biden's useless son "worked" for? Asking for a friend.
Please advise.
Methais
01-16-2020, 11:05 AM
Didn't realize Back is currently having a melt down.
I didn't mean to interrupt your melt down with attempting a logical discussion, Back. Please, let the melt down continue.
If he melts down hard enough maybe he'll start posing on Chillmonster again while claiming he's totally not BacKKKlash.
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 11:12 AM
You didn't think, that's for sure. All articles are hand delivered to the Senate, as are all bills going to the Whitehouse. If you're butthurt the articles of impeachment were walked by procession onto the floor of the Senate, I'd remind you that the Impeachment Managers on the Clinton impeachment also accompanied the bill being delivered to the secretary of the Senate. The only difference being Senate was not in session when Clinton's were delivered, so there was no opportunity to announce them on the floor.
But mommy! They started it!
I’m just taking you at your word that everything you said is true. Did Republicans also require 9 people to carry the articles over and have hundreds of cameras setup to record it after the speaker used literally dozens of pens to sign the articles so he could hand them out as souvenirs all while laughing and smiling and posing for selfies?
On a completely unrelated note, what's your opinion on Biden's blatant QPQ and then bragging about it? What are your specific thoughts on Biden threatening to withhold money from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor? The prosecutor who was conveniently investigating the company that Biden's useless son "worked" for? Asking for a friend.
Please advise.
Because everyone was just fine with it at the time? Because everyone agreed, Eurpoe as well, that they needed to get rid of that corrupt prosecutor for the good of a democratic and independent Ukraine? In fact, that prosecutor was considered corrupt because he would not follow through with his corruption investigations that allowed corruption to flourish. He was actually not investigating Burisma at the time this happened. He had investigated Burisma and found nothing wrong before he was fired.
This all boils down to Joe is a great guy, a good guy, an American people can be proud of and Trump's an entitled spoiled snowflake crook.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 11:21 AM
Because everyone was just fine with it at the time? Because everyone agreed, Eurpoe as well, that they needed to get rid of that corrupt prosecutor for the good of a democratic and independent Ukraine? In fact, that prosecutor was considered corrupt because he would not follow through with his corruption investigations that allowed corruption to flourish. He was actually not investigating Burisma at the time this happened. He had investigated Burisma and found nothing wrong before he was fired.
This all boils down to Joe is a great guy, a good guy, an American people can be proud of and Trump's an entitled spoiled snowflake crook.
Virtually all of Germany was ok when they were Nazi's. So, must be all good using that logic, right?
Dumbfuck.
Methais
01-16-2020, 11:22 AM
Not all "illegal" immigrants are rapists and murderers. Not even 1%. But bigots like you hear that from Trump, believe it, associate all immigrants coming from our southern border are all rapists and murderers when 99% of them are either trying to escape bad situations or are people looking for a better life for themselves and their families.
The leftist media's interpretation:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said then. "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
How normal people interpreted it:
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best," he said then. "They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Grammar is important.
Almost as important as honesty.
Which the media is not.
And neither are you.
Solkern
01-16-2020, 11:22 AM
On a completely unrelated note, what's your opinion on Biden's blatant QPQ and then bragging about it? What are your specific thoughts on Biden threatening to withhold money from Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor? The prosecutor who was conveniently investigating the company that Biden's useless son "worked" for? Asking for a friend.
Please advise.
Yeah it’s common info in both Ukraine and Russia that he was corrupt himself and not actually looking into any corruption at all.
Also my friends in Ukraine said, the prosecutor found loads of corruption in many many business but refused to do anything about it as he was supposedly being paid off not to do anything. The majority of Ukrainians wanted him gone, along with quite a few Ukrainian politicians.
From my understanding, Biden was just the man delivering the message for a large international push to get rid of the prosecutor, that wasn’t doing his job.
Methais
01-16-2020, 11:23 AM
I bet the middle school closed early for weather today, so Backrash has nowhere to go and watch children, so he's at home melting down.
Back is going to be busy preparing all weekend for ultra virtue signaling on Monday.
The leftist media's interpretation:
How normal people interpreted it:
Grammar is important.
Almost as important as honesty.
Which the media is not.
And neither are you.
Its more an issue of comprehension which you lack. He states they are criminals, that he assumes SOME of them are good people, while we know that incidents of crime among illegal immigrants are lower than citizens and that there are more actual benefits to illegal immigrants than there are negatives.
Solkern
01-16-2020, 11:38 AM
What exactly are the benefits to having illegal immigrants?
What exactly are the benefits to having illegal immigrants?
Only illegal benefits, by having cheap undocumented labour. Which if you defend that, you are an idiot.
What exactly are the benefits to having illegal immigrants?
Workers for jobs, tax revenue both state and federal, and lower crime rates in areas with the most illegal immigrants.
Workers for jobs, tax revenue both state and federal, and lower crime rates in areas with the most illegal immigrants.
There are no taxes being paid for undocumented workers working for cash.
If they are illegal I guarantee you they are not paying taxes. Illegals cost the state more than they gain back.
Only illegal benefits, by having cheap undocumented labour. Which if you defend that, you are an idiot.
You need to put the lens on the businesses that knowingly hire them if that is your issue. Can't blame someone for taking a job for money. At least they aren't trying to get a handout.
But they end up using wrong SS numbers which means they pay taxes that never get collected which is good for the government both local and federal and good for Social Security.
Solkern
01-16-2020, 11:49 AM
You need to put the lens on the businesses that knowingly hire them if that is your issue. Can't blame someone for taking a job for money. At least they aren't trying to get a handout.
But they end up using wrong SS numbers which means they pay taxes that never get collected which is good for the government both local and federal and good for Social Security.
It’s a problem with both, not just the business and not just the illegal immigrant. It’s both their faults
You need to put the lens on the businesses that knowingly hire them if that is your issue. Can't blame someone for taking a job for money. At least they aren't trying to get a handout.
But they end up using wrong SS numbers which means they pay taxes that never get collected which is good for the government both local and federal and good for Social Security.
There is no way the majority of the Illegals are using stolen Social Security numbers, I love how you keep doing mental gymnastics to justify breaking the law.
Methais
01-16-2020, 11:51 AM
Try to remember what we are discussing here - me being the biggest retard in PC history.
This is correct.
My issue with Trump is I'm so stupid that I buy into the media intentionally playing to the fears of my base with factually incorrect rhetoric while stoking racial tensions. And not just that, but literally everything else they say about him, and I believe it 100% and never question any of it because it makes me feel good. And with as pathetic as my life is, I really need that to help me get through the day without slashing my wrists.
This is correct.
The actual issue of immigration and how we handle it is another issue. One I also disagree with this administration and the previous administration as well. In fact, Bush Jr was more in line with my views on it.
Please clap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/8PBfNDoySmsRc49P4F/giphy.gif
While there may be a "law" about crossing a "border" as being illegal the severity of breaking that law is minuscule especially when you consider there are women and children among them just trying to get to a better life. As for the women and children in the US who are victims of the worst of these illegal immigrants, often involving rape and murder, well fuck them because I need a way to make myself feel superior and righteous, and this is all I got, so those people don't count and shouldn't be part of this conversation because it would make me look stupid if we had an honest conversation about all of this.
This is correct.
The media has used this rhetoric to get votes and in the process convinced idiots like me that Trump insinuated that ALL of them are murderers or rapists or something similar which is not truthful. But I'm stupid and gullible and I hate Trump so I'm going to roll with it anyway because I need this narrative in my life. It misrepresents more good people than paints an accurate portrait of them and I know this. But the media does it because they know people like me are really fucking dumb and will vote against him if they keep us scared and offer us free stuff.
This is correct.
That rhetoric then spreads from not just "illegal immigrants" but Mexicans and brown people and anyone who's not a straight white leftist male then some whack job shoots up a Walmart on the same day that some triggered Bernie supporter shot up some place in Ohio, but the Ohio shooting doesn't fit my narrative either so we'll pretend that didn't happen so that it looks like only right wing nutjobs exist and left wing crazies don't, because I'm incapable of independent thought or actual honesty and my god somebody please put me out of my misery because I'm a failure at life.
This is correct.
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 11:54 AM
Workers for jobs, tax revenue both state and federal, and lower crime rates in areas with the most illegal immigrants.
Wouldn’t workers only be necessary if the unemployment rate were 0 or they were getting jobs that required a lot of education like a doctor? And I am confident that doctors aren’t illegally crossing the border.
Also shut the fuck with your dumb add arguments that crime rates go down because of illegal aliens. You are the biggest piece of shit ever.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 11:58 AM
It’s a problem with both, not just the business and not just the illegal immigrant. It’s both their faults
Don't forget he has literally no statistics to back up either claim.
You know how I know? Because there aren't any. Both things he stated are crimes. I guess we should look at crime statistics, but then he misinterprets those also.
You forgot how colossally stupid he is. There is literally not a more retarded person on this board. Nor a more disliked person on this board. Nor a bigger pedophile than he is. He is the scum of pond scum, the lowest of the low. He brings nothing to society, this board, or anyone else. He only comes here because he can virtue signal and lie about what a great person he thinks he is, because IRL no one believes it. He started a blog, from 5 years ago, where he states he donated money to some org in Arizona. Because, him posting it makes it real in his fevered mind.
There is no one as stupid, willfully ignorant as Backrash the short dicked pedophile. No one even comes close.
Solkern
01-16-2020, 11:58 AM
Wouldn’t workers only be necessary if the unemployment rate were 0 or they were getting jobs that required a lot of education like a doctor? And I am confident that doctors aren’t illegally crossing the border.
Also shut the fuck with your dumb add arguments that crime rates go down because of illegal aliens. You are the biggest piece of shit ever.
Also pretty sure like 90% of the crime done within the illegal immigrant communities is largely unreported.
There is no way the majority of the Illegals are using stolen Social Security numbers, I love how you keep doing mental gymnastics to justify breaking the law.
Check this out directly from the Social Security Adminstration...
Question: What is the dollar amount of payrolltaxes paid by unauthorized workers and theiremployers for the latest tax year?
Response: We estimate $13 billion in OASDI payroll taxes from unauthorized immigrant workersand their employers in 2010. This number reflectsearnings for those with no recorded SSN, thosewho have obtained an SSN with fraudulent identification, and those with legitimate SSNs who haveoverstayed temporary visas.
There is more interesting information at this link.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf
Methais
01-16-2020, 12:11 PM
You need to put the lens on the businesses that knowingly hire them if that is your issue. Can't blame someone for taking a job for money. At least they aren't trying to get a handout.
But they end up using wrong SS numbers which means they pay taxes that never get collected which is good for the government both local and federal and good for Social Security.
I like how you make it sound like it's some innocent error, like they wrote down a wrong digit when filling out their stolen SSN info.
You're a fucking moron. :lol:
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 12:14 PM
Check this out directly from the Social Security Adminstration...
There is more interesting information at this link.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf
Yes indeed check this out. Over 10 million people illegally working in this country and of that an estimated 1 million are paying into social security and this is somehow a net positive for the social security fund. You know what would be an even bigger net positive for the social security fund? If those 10 million jobs went to American citizens who ALL paid taxes.
Neveragain
01-16-2020, 12:51 PM
Check this out directly from the Social Security Adminstration...
There is more interesting information at this link.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf
How proud you are that a government ran pyramid scheme, which would land anyone else in prison, is being supported by slave labor.
Everything about this is really fucking bad.
Parkbandit
01-16-2020, 01:48 PM
Dude, any one of the democrats are more qualified than Trump. My grandma is more qualified. Heck, grandma Methais is more qualified.
As for beating him, it does not matter who the candidate is, after what we saw in 2018, expect that blue tsunami to wash the republican red tide away.
The qualifications to becoming the US President are as follows:
1) Must be a natural born citizen.
2) Must be older than 35 years of age.
3) Must have resided in the US for the past 14 years.
Specifically, how are any of the Democrats more qualified than President Trump to become President?
Stop proving you are the champion everytime you post. We know.
Parkbandit
01-16-2020, 01:55 PM
CSPAN 2 will have the Senate setting up the trial with Chief Justice Roberts and others getting sworn in today.
When I think more about how Trump has tried to defame Joe, who has lost three immediate family members, by politically attacking his last surviving son, it just reaffirms how shitty and dumb Trump is.
Oh Hunter Biden... he's the victim here!
He's lead such a clean and honest life.. he doesn't deserve this!!!
Parkbandit
01-16-2020, 01:57 PM
Only illegal benefits, by having cheap undocumented labour.
Which is like modern day slavery.
Which if you defend that, you are an idiot.
And right on que:
Workers for jobs, tax revenue both state and federal, and lower crime rates in areas with the most illegal immigrants.
Seran
01-16-2020, 04:16 PM
But mommy! They started it!
I’m just taking you at your word that everything you said is true. Did Republicans also require 9 people to carry the articles over and have hundreds of cameras setup to record it after the speaker used literally dozens of pens to sign the articles so he could hand them out as souvenirs all while laughing and smiling and posing for selfies?
Yes, yes, 15 Impeachment managers, and the pens were handed out to every Senator as they swore in. So yes too all, except Republicans had a much bigger escort on camera
Seran
01-16-2020, 04:25 PM
How proud you are that a government ran pyramid scheme, which would land anyone else in prison, is being supported by slave labor.
Everything about this is really fucking bad.
A pyramid scheme so your grandparents don't live in a cardboard box and have to eat cat food.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 04:31 PM
A pyramid scheme so your grandparents don't live in a cardboard box and have to eat cat food.
Oh? SS does that? Interesting. How much do you think a maxxed out contributor to SS will get from SS beginning at 67?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 04:49 PM
I'm make it easier for you. How much of a person's income should SS be once they retire. I'll give you a hint, it's on the SS admin website. Second hint, it's less than 50%.
Seran
01-16-2020, 04:57 PM
Oh? SS does that? Interesting. How much do you think a maxxed out contributor to SS will get from SS beginning at 67?
You don't think someone could stay off the street making $3,011 from SSA retirement? I sure as shit could, but social security wasn't meant to put everyone in a Mercedes Benz.
Even for someone who never contributed in California can still receive $951 per month. With rent assistance or Section 8 housing, that's enough to live on
Gelston
01-16-2020, 05:01 PM
Social Security was meant as a safety net for people that didn't save, retire with a pension, or invest in a 401k. It isn't meant to be something you are entirely living off of, but you can eek by if necessary.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 05:04 PM
You don't think someone could stay off the street making $3,011 from SSA retirement? I sure as shit could, but social security wasn't meant to put everyone in a Mercedes Benz.
3,011 is maxed out, retiring at 67? so you work ostensibly from let's say 27, for 40 years, maxing out your contributions, and you get a whole $3k a month. That, if you have other sources of income like a 401K or an annuity or anything really, will likely get taxed again.
No, I could not live off 3K a month and maintain my lifestyle. Which is why I have all the other things, like every responsible American should.
drauz
01-16-2020, 05:18 PM
You don't think someone could stay off the street making $3,011 from SSA retirement? I sure as shit could, but social security wasn't meant to put everyone in a Mercedes Benz.
Even for someone who never contributed in California can still receive $951 per month. With rent assistance or Section 8 housing, that's enough to live on
Do you think you could live off $3,011 by the time you are actually getting SS? I would bet with inflation in the 20-30 years until you start to collect SS that that would barely cover rent unless you live in a cockroach infested shit hole.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 05:22 PM
That 3K figure is "full benefits" at 67. That's if you are making about 115K a year. Median average income for a family of 4? $81K. Oh, you also need to have earned the 40 credits, or essentially 10 years of working and earning money.
They are not getting the 3K
Seran
01-16-2020, 05:52 PM
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
Gelston
01-16-2020, 05:55 PM
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
rofl what? Saving money for retirement over the course of 30 years isn't a "silver spoon up their ass", it is called retirement planning. People who aren't fucking retards do it.
Candor
01-16-2020, 06:49 PM
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
Social Security was never meant to be the sole source of income during retirement. But facts like that seem to escape people like you.
Parkbandit
01-16-2020, 06:51 PM
A pyramid scheme so your grandparents don't live in a cardboard box and have to eat cat food.
Neither set of my grandparents needed to use social security.
You might be projecting your own real life situation here.
Parkbandit
01-16-2020, 06:54 PM
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
Careful... you're entering into Backlash territory with this stupidity.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-16-2020, 07:07 PM
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
I was given 750 bucks when I turned 18. That’s the grand total I’ve been given as an adult from anyone. That’s a silver spoon? I worked for 30 years, at school and after, have no debt, own my house, a million in assets. The American Dream, all because I worked hard.
even SS admin says SS is not a living, it’s forced savings because of people don’t know how to save a dime. Is that society or the governments fault? Go back to projecting.
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 07:44 PM
Yes, yes, 15 Impeachment managers, and the pens were handed out to every Senator as they swore in. So yes too all, except Republicans had a much bigger escort on camera
I couldn't find a video of the Clinton impeachment articles being handed over where they showed the entire 5 minute walk it took for them to physically walk to the Senate.
Also the pens handed out to each senator was for when they were signing their own name when they pledged to be impartial. Surely even you can see that's not quite the same as Pelosi signing the articles with dozens of pens and handing them out to Democrats like they were souvenirs.
And lastly I couldn't find any pictures or videos at all of the Speaker of the House handing out the pens he used to sign the articles with all while smiling and laughing and then posing for selfies with the people holding their pens.
I'll assume though you have actually seen all of this and aren't going by some bullshit left leaning rag you read an article from online.
~Rocktar~
01-16-2020, 10:09 PM
SS is a Ponzi scheme and one theory about the Dems supporting illegals is that they prop it up with fake IDs to get work and can't get benefits. Hell, if I had to live on 3K a year when I retire, as of right now, there are a few places in the world I would go live at and 3K a year is pretty nice. Also some places in the US where you could do decent with that.
Seran
01-16-2020, 11:18 PM
I was given 750 bucks when I turned 18. That’s the grand total I’ve been given as an adult from anyone. That’s a silver spoon? I worked for 30 years, at school and after, have no debt, own my house, a million in assets. The American Dream, all because I worked hard.
even SS admin says SS is not a living, it’s forced savings because of people don’t know how to save a dime. Is that society or the governments fault? Go back to projecting.
And guess what, others, including myself have comparable accomplishments and do not look down on SSA because of the safety net it offers those who aren't so fortunate or whom didn't make such important choices.
Tgo01
01-16-2020, 11:23 PM
And guess what, others, including myself have comparable accomplishments and do not look down on SSA because of the safety net it offers those who aren't so fortunate or whom didn't make such important choices.
Maybe I just missed it in all of your ranting and raving but I don't think anyone here "looked down on SSA" or those who are on it.
Perhaps it's time to stop Backlashing around. Next thing you know you're gonna call everyone a racist.
Solkern
01-17-2020, 12:09 AM
I’ve noticed, all the Democrats here have red rep...
Tgo01
01-17-2020, 12:23 AM
I’ve noticed, all the Democrats here have red rep...
Well they are communists.
Parkbandit
01-17-2020, 07:32 AM
I’ve noticed, all the Democrats here have red rep...
Only the really retarded ones.
Off the top of my heads, these dems all have green... and a couple of them have a severe case of TDS
Alfster
Taernath
Ardwen
Archgeek
Methais
01-17-2020, 08:57 AM
Dude, any one of the democrats are more qualified than Trump. My grandma is more qualified. Heck, grandma Methais is more qualified.
What specifically makes them more qualified?
in b4 "wElL fOr OnE tHeY'rE nOt RacIsTs!!!!
As for beating him, it does not matter who the candidate is, after what we saw in 2018, expect that blue tsunami to wash the republican red tide away.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy fuck how is it possible for one's brain to contain this much stupidity and still function well enough to stay alive?
What specifically makes you think there's going to be a blue wave after the enormous amount of nothing democrats have done for 2 years other than being butthurt and crying that they lost an election? You think impeachment is really going to work out in their favor? :lol:
Methais
01-17-2020, 09:10 AM
CSPAN 2 will have the Senate setting up the trial with Chief Justice Roberts and others getting sworn in today.
When I think more about how Trump has tried to defame Joe, who has lost three immediate family members, by politically attacking his last surviving son, it just reaffirms how shitty and dumb Trump is.
Defamation involves lies. 99% of the damage Biden has taken, Biden did to himself just by being Biden.
You and him both have some things in common though, so I can understand why you feel so strongly about this.
https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/4c8/83/f6a4ad5705b783f5.gif
Methais
01-17-2020, 09:13 AM
You didn't think, that's for sure. All articles are hand delivered to the Senate, as are all bills going to the Whitehouse. If you're butthurt the articles of impeachment were walked by procession onto the floor of the Senate, I'd remind you that the Impeachment Managers on the Clinton impeachment also accompanied the bill being delivered to the secretary of the Senate. The only difference being Senate was not in session when Clinton's were delivered, so there was no opportunity to announce them on the floor.
No one's butthurt. Most republicans are more like:
https://media3.giphy.com/media/Pbxj4ujhKth8Q/source.gif
Parkbandit
01-17-2020, 09:14 AM
What specifically makes you think there's going to be a blue wave after the enormous amount of nothing democrats have done for 2 years other than being butthurt and crying that they lost an election? You think impeachment is really going to work out in their favor? :lol:
To be fair, there are a lot of really, really stupid voters in the Democrat party who are just like Backlash that honestly believe the reason their lives are shitty is because some banker or some Wall Street guy took their rightful share and will vote for any candidate that promises them revenge.
Seran
01-17-2020, 10:11 AM
Maybe I just missed it in all of your ranting and raving but I don't think anyone here "looked down on SSA" or those who are on it.
Perhaps it's time to stop Backlashing around. Next thing you know you're gonna call everyone a racist.
Calling it a Ponzi scheme, a scam, deriding the benefits, those are indeed deriding that program.
Neveragain
01-17-2020, 10:23 AM
And guess what, others, including myself have comparable accomplishments and do not look down on SSA because of the safety net it offers those who aren't so fortunate or whom didn't make such important choices.
That's the intent of the program but it's not how it has been used over the past 70 years.
Considering you have "comparable accomplishments", I take it you will be turning down your SSI check at 67?
Will your spouse choose to take your SSI or hers when you're 6 ft. under?
For the selfish ones that decide not to have children, why do they deserve SSI? They didn't have kids that fund their take.
Parkbandit
01-17-2020, 11:10 AM
Calling it a Ponzi scheme, a scam, deriding the benefits, those are indeed deriding that program.
It's literally a Ponzi scheme.
Literally.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-17-2020, 11:45 AM
And guess what, others, including myself have comparable accomplishments and do not look down on SSA because of the safety net it offers those who aren't so fortunate or whom didn't make such important choices.
I don't look down on it. I laugh when people say it's their retirement.
Methais
01-17-2020, 11:53 AM
Ah, so what we have here is a bunch of folks who want to shit all over Social Security, because they can't imagine stooping down to live anything other than a lavish lifestyle. I understand now. Most Americans don't have a silver spoon up their ass, or an annuity from some well being parent to afford hookers and blow.
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to expect someone to live off of $3k a month, which is enough to pay a mortgage payment on a $250,000 mortgage at market rate and be able to afford household costs and incidentals.
I'm sorry (not really) that you're jealous of people who succeeded in life.
Seran
01-17-2020, 01:52 PM
That's the intent of the program but it's not how it has been used over the past 70 years.
Considering you have "comparable accomplishments", I take it you will be turning down your SSI check at 67?
Will your spouse choose to take your SSI or hers when you're 6 ft. under?
For the selfish ones that decide not to have children, why do they deserve SSI? They didn't have kids that fund their take.
Of course I wouldn't give up a benefit I've paid into my entire life, no matter my solvency when I retire. What a stupid question.
Social Security is an entitlement and there is no litmus test that someone breed children to pay into the system; our country is progressive, not communist.
Seran
01-17-2020, 01:55 PM
I don't look down on it. I laugh when people say it's their retirement.
That's your right and I'm inclined to agree that that foolishness is cringe worthy. Doesn't change the importance of the program in ending senior poverty.
Neveragain
01-17-2020, 02:08 PM
Of course I wouldn't give up a benefit I've paid into my entire life, no matter my solvency when I retire. What a stupid question.
Social Security is an entitlement and there is no litmus test that someone breed children to pay into the system; our country is progressive, not communist.
And this is why a generation is going to get fucked by the SSI Ponzi scheme.
It's like you don't understand the SSI program, how it became a program and why it became a program.
You want the program, you just don't want to be the one to pay for it. Typical socialist.
Methais
01-17-2020, 02:59 PM
And this is why a generation is going to get fucked by the SSI Ponzi scheme.
It's like you don't understand the SSI program, how it became a program and why it became a program.
You want the program, you just don't want to be the one to pay for it. Typical socialist.
Accidental honesty is the most entertaining honesty.
Solkern
01-17-2020, 03:23 PM
Here’s my problem with some republicans
Ninety-nine US senators were sworn in Thursday and, with their right hands raised, pledged to do "impartial justice" in the impeachment trial of Donald John Trump. (The 100th, Oklahoma's James Inhofe, was back home dealing with a family medical issue and will be sworn in next week.)
How can you take this oath, when you already admitted, that you will not be impartial?
It doesn’t matter if you think this impeachment is a sham or whatever..
Methais
01-17-2020, 03:50 PM
Here’s my problem with some republicans
Ninety-nine US senators were sworn in Thursday and, with their right hands raised, pledged to do "impartial justice" in the impeachment trial of Donald John Trump. (The 100th, Oklahoma's James Inhofe, was back home dealing with a family medical issue and will be sworn in next week.)
How can you take this oath, when you already admitted, that you will not be impartial?
It doesn’t matter if you think this impeachment is a sham or whatever..
Good. It's about time republicans start growing a spine and give the left a taste of their own medicine instead of rolling over and taking it in the ass with a smile like they've done for decades while democrats continue to trash everything. No, this shouldn't be the norm, but in this specific case, the left needs a taste.
Fighting fire with fire, etc.
It won't matter anyway. Regardless of how they conduct the trial, anything less than Trump being removed from office is going to trigger the biggest meltdowns since the 2016 election, followed by the biggest meltdowns of all time after he gets reelected in November.
My question to you is did all 99 of these Senators themselves say they weren't going to be impartial? Or where is that coming from?
Gelston
01-17-2020, 03:52 PM
Democrats aren’t exactly impartial either. They are saying he did these illegal things and the Senate trial isn’t even underway yet.
Alfster
01-17-2020, 04:29 PM
I'm loving all this parnas stuff. It's hilarious. Trump says I don't know him, he releases pictures. Trump says he's never talked to him, he releases videos of them talking.
Tgo01
01-17-2020, 08:05 PM
Here’s my problem with some republicans
Ninety-nine US senators were sworn in Thursday and, with their right hands raised, pledged to do "impartial justice" in the impeachment trial of Donald John Trump. (The 100th, Oklahoma's James Inhofe, was back home dealing with a family medical issue and will be sworn in next week.)
How can you take this oath, when you already admitted, that you will not be impartial?
It doesn’t matter if you think this impeachment is a sham or whatever..
There are like 5 Democrats in the Senate running for president and another 2 who were running but dropped out and when they dropped out they pledged to do everything in their power to ensure a Democrat defeats Trump.
All 7 of those people should recuse themselves because they literally can’t be impartial because of their conflict of interests.
Tgo01
01-17-2020, 08:06 PM
I'm loving all this parnas stuff. It's hilarious. Trump says I don't know him, he releases pictures. Trump says he's never talked to him, he releases videos of them talking.
You talking about at campaign events or what? Because so far all I have seen are pictures of Trump and Parnas at campaign events and rallies. That doesn’t exactly prove they knew each other.
Alfster
01-17-2020, 08:31 PM
Not sure where. It's absolutely hilarious. Everytime Trump mentions that he doesn't know him he's releasing another picture. Pretty sure the entire reason pelosi held the articles of impeachment was to wait for the courts to release his data.
He's far from trustworthy. Who knows what he has, but this shit is funny to watch
Seran
01-17-2020, 10:38 PM
Democrats aren’t exactly impartial either. They are saying he did these illegal things and the Senate trial isn’t even underway yet.
Yup, they even put it in writing. Impeachment documents.
Solkern
01-18-2020, 02:14 AM
Good. It's about time republicans start growing a spine and give the left a taste of their own medicine instead of rolling over and taking it in the ass with a smile like they've done for decades while democrats continue to trash everything. No, this shouldn't be the norm, but in this specific case, the left needs a taste.
Fighting fire with fire, etc.
It won't matter anyway. Regardless of how they conduct the trial, anything less than Trump being removed from office is going to trigger the biggest meltdowns since the 2016 election, followed by the biggest meltdowns of all time after he gets reelected in November.
My question to you is did all 99 of these Senators themselves say they weren't going to be impartial? Or where is that coming from?
I saw it on CNN a video of them swearing this oath. While I agree the dems were dumb in pushing for impeachment non stop like it was their mission in life, but that’s not the same as going on record saying “I have no plan to be impartial for this impeachment” especially once impeachment inquiry started.
After making these comments and putting your hand up to swear being impartial is wrong.
That’s all I’m implying
Yes it shouldn’t be the norm, but how childish and partisans our politicians are, it’s going to become the norm
Solkern
01-18-2020, 02:15 AM
There are like 5 Democrats in the Senate running for president and another 2 who were running but dropped out and when they dropped out they pledged to do everything in their power to ensure a Democrat defeats Trump.
All 7 of those people should recuse themselves because they literally can’t be impartial because of their conflict of interests.
Yup, agree and not once have I disputed this at all. Republicans who also went on the record stating they won’t be impartial, should also recuse themselves as well
Solkern
01-18-2020, 02:17 AM
Democrats aren’t exactly impartial either. They are saying he did these illegal things and the Senate trial isn’t even underway yet.
Yup 100% agree. We lost the fucking election, just swallow your fucking pride or whatever, and focus on making our country better, don’t waste our money on this mission of vendetta, I don’t support trump, but he’s my president, so in respect the office he holds, and respect him because of this.
I thought trump was going to be god fucking awful, and personally I don’t think he’s a good president. But he’s done quite a few things I support and I’m happy about, and we aren’t in WW3, so kudos to him!
Methais
01-18-2020, 11:32 AM
I saw it on CNN a video of them swearing this oath. While I agree the dems were dumb in pushing for impeachment non stop like it was their mission in life, but that’s not the same as going on record saying “I have no plan to be impartial for this impeachment” especially once impeachment inquiry started.
After making these comments and putting your hand up to swear being impartial is wrong.
That’s all I’m implying
Yes it shouldn’t be the norm, but how childish and partisans our politicians are, it’s going to become the norm
If you know something is a hoax and you plan to call it out for being a hoax, why lie about it?
Methais
01-18-2020, 11:35 AM
Yup 100% agree. We lost the fucking election, just swallow your fucking pride or whatever, and focus on making our country better, don’t waste our money on this mission of vendetta, I don’t support trump, but he’s my president, so in respect the office he holds, and respect him because of this.
I thought trump was going to be god fucking awful, and personally I don’t think he’s a good president. But he’s done quite a few things I support and I’m happy about, and we aren’t in WW3, so kudos to him!
I’m curious what specifically he’s done or not done to make you think he’s not a good president. Especially when you’ve already self proclaimed to basically have no idea what’s happening over here.
Why does the news in Russia say about it all?
Ashlander
01-18-2020, 11:43 AM
I’m curious what specifically he’s done or not done to make you think he’s not a good president. Especially when you’ve already self proclaimed to basically have no idea what’s happening over here.
Why does the news in Russia say about it all?
Obviously the news in Russia is super positive about him. Everyone knows he's Putin's puppet.
Solkern
01-18-2020, 11:53 AM
I’m curious what specifically he’s done or not done to make you think he’s not a good president. Especially when you’ve already self proclaimed to basically have no idea what’s happening over here.
Why does the news in Russia say about it all?
Some of it is about what’s he’s done in office(policy etc), some of it is not.
Pretty much that everyday he’s engulfed in scandal, he salutes the North Korean military(I’m half South Korean), diverts funds from key sectors to build a wall, that is in my opinion utterly useless. The claims he has made, such as if I’m president, I would never do this etc. (Golfing for example) (quite a lot of Russian media really laughs at him about this “president of golfing, I mean America is busy at work on the courses again”) and wasting my tax dollars on this, especially after he touted he’d have no time for golfing.
His tax cuts hit me quite hard. His roll back of LGBTQ in the military. His inability to work with Democrats(granted this is both their fault) but I put more the blame on him, as he has touted non stop that he’s the master of the deal, and can make deals no one else can. His rollbacks of everything to help improve our environment I.e deregulating the coal industry, rolling back the clean water rule etc. his stripping of the ACA with nothing to replace it with, and failure to get a republican controlled congress to get any major legislations passed (other than the tax cuts)
The Republican Party so i thought was all about the fiscal policy of reducing our national debt, it’s ballooned even worse than when Obama was in office(I could be wrong on this, please correct me if I am) (I also know having a debt isn’t as dire as everyone thinks it is(working in a bank I see the major positives of America(for America) being in debt)
and because he sounds like he has no idea how anything works, really makes wonder if he has any clue what he’s doing. Ie. the visa lottery, he thought they placed names in a ball and just randomly picked someone.
There’s also quite a few things he has done, that I approve of. But based on what I know, I don’t believe these are his ideas or his doing.
Feel free to correct any inaccuracies I’ve made.
This is just my personal view(and I don’t follow it very closely as I probably should be)
Solkern
01-18-2020, 12:00 PM
Obviously the news in Russia is super positive about him. Everyone knows he's Putin's puppet.
Our first Russian sponsored, Donald trump the puppet parade, is to be celebrated next weekend!!
Solkern
01-18-2020, 12:13 PM
Especially when you’ve already self proclaimed to basically have no idea what’s happening over here.
It’s not that I know absolutely nothing, I just don’t know much about what he’s done in detail, just done a little research on the a few things that I feel strongly about. Environment, taxes, LGBTQ etc
I don’t read much US news as I would like, most of my news comes from Russia, China, Hong Kong and a few other SEA/Eastern European countries
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-18-2020, 12:19 PM
Some of it is about what’s he’s done in office(policy etc), some of it is not.
Pretty much that everyday he’s engulfed in scandal, he salutes the North Korean military(I’m half South Korean), diverts funds from key sectors to build a wall, that is in my opinion utterly useless. The claims he has made, such as if I’m president, I would never do this etc. (Golfing for example) (quite a lot of Russian media really laughs at him about this “president of golfing, I mean America is busy at work on the courses again”) and wasting my tax dollars on this, especially after he touted he’d have no time for golfing.
His tax cuts hit me quite hard. His roll back of LGBTQ in the military. His inability to work with Democrats(granted this is both their fault) but I put more the blame on him, as he has touted non stop that he’s the master of the deal, and can make deals no one else can. His rollbacks of everything to help improve our environment I.e deregulating the coal industry, rolling back the clean water rule etc. his stripping of the ACA with nothing to replace it with, and failure to get a republican controlled congress to get any major legislations passed (other than the tax cuts)
The Republican Party so i thought was all about the fiscal policy of reducing our national debt, it’s ballooned even worse than when Obama was in office(I could be wrong on this, please correct me if I am) (I also know having a debt isn’t as dire as everyone thinks it is(working in a bank I see the major positives of America(for America) being in debt)
and because he sounds like he has no idea how anything works, really makes wonder if he has any clue what he’s doing. Ie. the visa lottery, he thought they placed names in a ball and just randomly picked someone.
There’s also quite a few things he has done, that I approve of. But based on what I know, I don’t believe these are his ideas or his doing.
Feel free to correct any inaccuracies I’ve made.
This is just my personal view(and I don’t follow it very closely as I probably should be)
That's a lot to unpack.
But basically what you said is "I believe all the negative news about him, and all the good news I do not attribute to him."
You have many inaccuracies, but it's not worth getting into it. They can all be googled. The national debt is not worse than Obama, but it's on track to be. Your taxes going up, well I'd assume you are more well off than most the nation, because his tax act did exactly what it said it would, lower taxes on low/mid income families. Mine went up also.
The rest sound like personality things you don't like. Saluting a foreign nation flag? Golfing? Can't cross the aisle?
Alfster
01-18-2020, 12:25 PM
When you spend years complaining about the president golfing too much, then boast you'll be too busy working to golf.
Then you get elected and spend even more time golfing. That's not a personality problem. It's a credibility thing.
Add in thousands of lies, and yah. That's a job performance issue
Solkern
01-18-2020, 12:33 PM
That's a lot to unpack.
But basically what you said is "I believe all the negative news about him, and all the good news I do not attribute to him."
You have many inaccuracies, but it's not worth getting into it. They can all be googled. The national debt is not worse than Obama, but it's on track to be. Your taxes going up, well I'd assume you are more well off than most the nation, because his tax act did exactly what it said it would, lower taxes on low/mid income families. Mine went up also.
The rest sound like personality things you don't like. Saluting a foreign nation flag? Golfing? Can't cross the aisle?
Ahh didn’t mean to come off that way, probably poorly worded myself. I meant it towards policies he’s inacted.
I don’t believe all the negative stuff said about him, far from it. If I did I would be on the trump hate train. Like I said there are also quite a few things that he has done that I approve of, methais just asked what I disliked about him :)
My taxes didn’t get lowered, they sky rocketed even after I get a portion of my salary exempt from taxes due to living abroad.
I also mentioned that I could be wrong on a few things as I haven’t gone into much detail about it
And yup, I mentioned it at the beginning that it’s both personal and policy.
Solkern
01-18-2020, 12:41 PM
That's a lot to unpack.
But basically what you said is "I believe all the negative news about him, and all the good news I do not attribute to him."
You have many inaccuracies, but it's not worth getting into it. They can all be googled. The national debt is not worse than Obama, but it's on track to be. Your taxes going up, well I'd assume you are more well off than most the nation, because his tax act did exactly what it said it would, lower taxes on low/mid income families. Mine went up also.
The rest sound like personality things you don't like. Saluting a foreign nation flag? Golfing? Can't cross the aisle?
And also, quite a lot of articles I read say quite good things about Trump.
I don’t really follow opinion based articles, I don’t need people to think for me, or explain To me news, with news.
So I take the negative and positive shit said about trump and don’t even bother with it
For example I used to read yahoo news(laugh at me I deserve it) but I stopped when they started to relate anything bad that happened and connect it to trump. I just read headline that some former republican is going to jail, and the article started off with “the first person to endorse trump goes to jail”
I just don’t even read it, I don’t give a fuck that he’s connected to trump and what he did has nothing to do with trump, so why link them together?
Don't let the blind Trump loyalists intimidate you. There is such a thing as someone being bad at something and other people noticing, calling it out, and making sure that person is not allowed to be bad at it again. Thats common sense. Thats reality. Thats how things should work.
It is immaturity that drives the die hard loyalists to call any criticism leveled at the president being solely based on an irrational hatred for the person in that position who is doing badly at that job. They then resort to personal attacks on anyone who levels any criticism as a way to distract from the actual truth.
Trump has been an awful president who inherited a decent economy. He can thank Obama for giving him a booming economy and his only excuse for claiming any sort of achievement while in office.
Parkbandit
01-18-2020, 01:56 PM
When you spend years complaining about the president golfing too much, then boast you'll be too busy working to golf.
Then you get elected and spend even more time golfing. That's not a personality problem. It's a credibility thing.
If that's the biggest issue you have, he must be doing a damn good job.
Add in thousands of lies, and yah. That's a job performance issue
This just in: Politicians lie.
Thanks for the heads up.
Parkbandit
01-18-2020, 02:02 PM
Some of it is about what’s he’s done in office(policy etc), some of it is not.
Pretty much that everyday he’s engulfed in scandal, he salutes the North Korean military(I’m half South Korean), diverts funds from key sectors to build a wall, that is in my opinion utterly useless. The claims he has made, such as if I’m president, I would never do this etc. (Golfing for example) (quite a lot of Russian media really laughs at him about this “president of golfing, I mean America is busy at work on the courses again”) and wasting my tax dollars on this, especially after he touted he’d have no time for golfing.
His tax cuts hit me quite hard. His roll back of LGBTQ in the military. His inability to work with Democrats(granted this is both their fault) but I put more the blame on him, as he has touted non stop that he’s the master of the deal, and can make deals no one else can. His rollbacks of everything to help improve our environment I.e deregulating the coal industry, rolling back the clean water rule etc. his stripping of the ACA with nothing to replace it with, and failure to get a republican controlled congress to get any major legislations passed (other than the tax cuts)
The Republican Party so i thought was all about the fiscal policy of reducing our national debt, it’s ballooned even worse than when Obama was in office(I could be wrong on this, please correct me if I am) (I also know having a debt isn’t as dire as everyone thinks it is(working in a bank I see the major positives of America(for America) being in debt)
and because he sounds like he has no idea how anything works, really makes wonder if he has any clue what he’s doing. Ie. the visa lottery, he thought they placed names in a ball and just randomly picked someone.
There’s also quite a few things he has done, that I approve of. But based on what I know, I don’t believe these are his ideas or his doing.
Feel free to correct any inaccuracies I’ve made.
This is just my personal view(and I don’t follow it very closely as I probably should be)
lol...
I won't even dive into the "Trump did this and I hate it.. and this happened during the past 3 years but he didn't do it on purpose" silliness... but you said the Trump tax cut hit you hard. Be specific? Because the Trump tax cut was a positive thing for me.
Methais
01-18-2020, 02:16 PM
Don't let the blind Trump loyalists intimidate you. There is such a thing as someone being bad at something and other people noticing, calling it out, and making sure that person is not allowed to be bad at it again. Thats common sense. Thats reality. Thats how things should work.
It is immaturity that drives the die hard loyalists to call any criticism leveled at the president being solely based on an irrational hatred for the person in that position who is doing badly at that job. They then resort to personal attacks on anyone who levels any criticism as a way to distract from the actual truth.
Trump has been an awful president who inherited a decent economy. He can thank Obama for giving him a booming economy and his only excuse for claiming any sort of achievement while in office.
1. You’re retarded.
2. You’re retarded.
3. https://lybio.net/wp-content/uploads/Rep.-Al-Green-Im-Concerned-If-We-Dont-Impeach-This-President-He-Will-Get-Re-Elected.jpg
4. You’re retarded.
Parkbandit
01-18-2020, 03:53 PM
Don't let the blind Trump loyalists intimidate you. There is such a thing as someone being bad at something and other people noticing, calling it out, and making sure that person is not allowed to be bad at it again. Thats common sense. Thats reality. Thats how things should work.
It is immaturity that drives the die hard loyalists to call any criticism leveled at the president being solely based on an irrational hatred for the person in that position who is doing badly at that job. They then resort to personal attacks on anyone who levels any criticism as a way to distract from the actual truth.
Trump has been an awful president who inherited a decent economy. He can thank Obama for giving him a booming economy and his only excuse for claiming any sort of achievement while in office.
Dude.. please stop making so fucking easy to make fun of you.
Just have a modicum of self respect. Granted, there's not much there, but pretend.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-18-2020, 04:17 PM
And also, quite a lot of articles I read say quite good things about Trump.
I don’t really follow opinion based articles, I don’t need people to think for me, or explain To me news, with news.
So I take the negative and positive shit said about trump and don’t even bother with it
For example I used to read yahoo news(laugh at me I deserve it) but I stopped when they started to relate anything bad that happened and connect it to trump. I just read headline that some former republican is going to jail, and the article started off with “the first person to endorse trump goes to jail”
I just don’t even read it, I don’t give a fuck that he’s connected to trump and what he did has nothing to do with trump, so why link them together?
I'm not disagreeing with much of what you said. I really don't like Trump as president myself. But he's 10x better than a socialist/communist party running against him. I pick my battles. Democrats have picked my battle for me by going so far left, so far socialist, so far communist, so far racist, so far sexist, that my only option is to vote party line Republican.
Alfster
01-18-2020, 06:58 PM
If that's the biggest issue you have, he must be doing a damn good job.
This just in: Politicians lie.
Thanks for the heads up.
Far from it. I was simply saying those are related to his job and not a personal issue.
He's seeing records as the biggest liar to hold office, hah. At least you know what he says is bullshit
Tgo01
01-18-2020, 08:20 PM
When you spend years complaining about the president golfing too much, then boast you'll be too busy working to golf.
Then you get elected and spend even more time golfing. That's not a personality problem. It's a credibility thing.
Add in thousands of lies, and yah. That's a job performance issue
One time someone posted a graph to Reddit that showed all of the times Trump has golfed during his presidency with the goal of showing just how lazy he was. Turns out almost every single time Trump has golfed was either on a weekend and a week during Labor Day and a week during Thanksgiving.
Even people who hated Trump were like “seeing this graph makes his golfing not seem bad at all.”
Because how dare a president relax on weekends or two weeks during the year!
Of course the data was bullshit anyways but the “experts” count Trump golfing anytime he visits one of his resorts or any other place with a golf course.
Tgo01
01-18-2020, 08:23 PM
He's seeing records as the biggest liar to hold office, hah.
According to whom? Let me guess, Politifact?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-18-2020, 10:26 PM
He's seeing records as the biggest liar to hold office, hah. At least you know what he says is bullshit
According to whom? Let me guess, Politifact?
Dude, I'm a moderate, and I agree that Trump is probably the biggest liar in political office, in history.
Tgo01
01-18-2020, 10:36 PM
Dude, I'm a moderate, and I agree that Trump is probably the biggest liar in political office, in history.
Are we counting his obvious exaggerations as lies?
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-18-2020, 11:06 PM
Are we counting his obvious exaggerations as lies?
Yes, he lies all the time. Call it what you want, but it's not true.
Tgo01
01-18-2020, 11:23 PM
Yes, he lies all the time. Call it what you want, but it's not true.
Okay, I just wanted to make sure we are counting things like "I know the best people" or "it was a perfect phone call" as lies, then yeah he does lie a lot.
Archigeek
01-18-2020, 11:29 PM
Okay, I just wanted to make sure we are counting things like "I know the best people" or "it was a perfect phone call" as lies, then yeah he does lie a lot.
Not counting those. Pretty much any time he says something like "people are saying" it's a tell that whatever he's going to say next is a lie.
Tgo01
01-19-2020, 12:01 AM
Not counting those. Pretty much any time he says something like "people are saying" it's a tell that whatever he's going to say next is a lie.
That's almost always the same thing.
"People are saying I'm the best president ever" or "People are saying this is the best economy in their lifetime."
I guess those are lies, but it's really kind of nitpicking.
I think of a lie more like "Benghazi was the result of a YouTube video." Something that is actually important, has a real impact on people, and is verifiably false.
Trump boasting that he's worth 10 billion when it's probably closer to 4 billion just seems like nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about him.
Not saying Trump doesn't lie about important stuff either, but I just want to know if the supposed "records" he's breaking as being the biggest liar in the history of politicians is counting things like him bragging about his wealth, which at the end of the day I throw in the "Who gives a flying fuck" bin.
Archigeek
01-19-2020, 12:17 AM
That's almost always the same thing.
"People are saying I'm the best president ever" or "People are saying this is the best economy in their lifetime."
I guess those are lies, but it's really kind of nitpicking.
I think of a lie more like "Benghazi was the result of a YouTube video." Something that is actually important, has a real impact on people, and is verifiably false.
Trump boasting that he's worth 10 billion when it's probably closer to 4 billion just seems like nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about him.
Not saying Trump doesn't lie about important stuff either, but I just want to know if the supposed "records" he's breaking as being the biggest liar in the history of politicians is counting things like him bragging about his wealth, which at the end of the day I throw in the "Who gives a flying fuck" bin.
Now you're just making shit up. Trump uses "people are saying" when he wants to promote a conspiracy theory without having to own what he's saying. When he's boasting like in your examples, he's more likely to own it, not blame his lie on someone else who doesn't exist.
Tgo01
01-19-2020, 12:28 AM
Now you're just making shit up. Trump uses "people are saying" when he wants to promote a conspiracy theory without having to own what he's saying.
Talk about making shit up.
Solkern
01-19-2020, 12:55 AM
lol...
I won't even dive into the "Trump did this and I hate it.. and this happened during the past 3 years but he didn't do it on purpose" silliness... but you said the Trump tax cut hit you hard. Be specific? Because the Trump tax cut was a positive thing for me.
Sure before my I was getting taxed at 32%, my tax jumped to 35%, also before my US tax would be applied after my Russian tax was taken, that’s not the case anymore. I also own a business, the repatriation tax, really hit me hard.
Granted the jump from $6000 to 12,000 that I don’t need to claim did help, but not a lot.
Solkern
01-19-2020, 12:58 AM
That's almost always the same thing.
"People are saying I'm the best president ever" or "People are saying this is the best economy in their lifetime."
I guess those are lies, but it's really kind of nitpicking.
I think of a lie more like "Benghazi was the result of a YouTube video." Something that is actually important, has a real impact on people, and is verifiably false.
Trump boasting that he's worth 10 billion when it's probably closer to 4 billion just seems like nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about him.
Not saying Trump doesn't lie about important stuff either, but I just want to know if the supposed "records" he's breaking as being the biggest liar in the history of politicians is counting things like him bragging about his wealth, which at the end of the day I throw in the "Who gives a flying fuck" bin.
I don’t really call it nitpicking... a lie is a lie, no matter how big, or how stupid it is. Can’t cherry pick what lies count as lies and don’t.
Tgo01
01-19-2020, 01:07 AM
I don’t really call it nitpicking... a lie is a lie, no matter how big, or how stupid it is. Can’t cherry pick what lies count as lies and don’t.
Like I said I would just classify those dumb lies as "who really gives a flying fuck."
It's not like he's lying about something important, like oh I don't know, promising if you like your doctor you could keep your doctor as he tries to take away your healthcare. Or, just spitballing here, literally saying the world is going to end in 12 years because of climate change then say only an idiot would take them literally after their supporters took them seriously and young children got scared shit less because they thought they were going to die soon.
But if Democrats need something to cling to such as "Trump has the record for most lies ever in the entire universe!" because he likes to exaggerate his wealth or reputation or something then fine, have at it, Democrats.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-19-2020, 01:43 AM
Sure before my I was getting taxed at 32%, my tax jumped to 35%, also before my US tax would be applied after my Russian tax was taken, that’s not the case anymore. I also own a business, the repatriation tax, really hit me hard.
Granted the jump from $6000 to 12,000 that I don’t need to claim did help, but not a lot.
I work in tax and literally do not know anyone who has a 35% tax rate.
Solkern
01-19-2020, 01:46 AM
I work in tax and literally do not know anyone who has a 35% tax rate.
Well, now you do!
Solkern
01-19-2020, 02:32 AM
Like I said I would just classify those dumb lies as "who really gives a flying fuck."
It's not like he's lying about something important, like oh I don't know, promising if you like your doctor you could keep your doctor as he tries to take away your healthcare. Or, just spitballing here, literally saying the world is going to end in 12 years because of climate change then say only an idiot would take them literally after their supporters took them seriously and young children got scared shit less because they thought they were going to die soon.
But if Democrats need something to cling to such as "Trump has the record for most lies ever in the entire universe!" because he likes to exaggerate his wealth or reputation or something then fine, have at it, Democrats.
Yup, agree and fully understand ya, but it’s still a lie, no matter how you put it into context, or label it.
For me regarding his lies, I’m just tired of them, that’s it.
Parkbandit
01-19-2020, 10:40 AM
Sure before my I was getting taxed at 32%, my tax jumped to 35%, also before my US tax would be applied after my Russian tax was taken, that’s not the case anymore. I also own a business, the repatriation tax, really hit me hard.
Granted the jump from $6000 to 12,000 that I don’t need to claim did help, but not a lot.
I can't speak of taxes.. especially repatriation taxation.. but all I know as a small business owner, I have more money in my pocket now directly because of the Trump tax cuts.
Also, I've never heard of someone paying 35% in real taxes.. so you may want to find yourself a better tax accountant.
Solkern
01-19-2020, 11:02 AM
I can't speak of taxes.. especially repatriation taxation.. but all I know as a small business owner, I have more money in my pocket now directly because of the Trump tax cuts.
Also, I've never heard of someone paying 35% in real taxes.. so you may want to find yourself a better tax accountant.
Sorry I didn’t break it down, I pay roughly 20% tax and because I live abroad the Repatriation Tax adds 15.5% to my taxes.
Plus I also need to back pay it as well
Methais
01-19-2020, 11:33 AM
That's almost always the same thing.
"People are saying I'm the best president ever" or "People are saying this is the best economy in their lifetime."
I guess those are lies, but it's really kind of nitpicking.
I think of a lie more like "Benghazi was the result of a YouTube video." Something that is actually important, has a real impact on people, and is verifiably false.
Trump boasting that he's worth 10 billion when it's probably closer to 4 billion just seems like nitpicking because you can't find anything else to complain about him.
Not saying Trump doesn't lie about important stuff either, but I just want to know if the supposed "records" he's breaking as being the biggest liar in the history of politicians is counting things like him bragging about his wealth, which at the end of the day I throw in the "Who gives a flying fuck" bin.
If you look at the comments on most of his fb posts, there are always people in there saying he’s the best president ever. Just like comments under Obama’s posts when he was president.
I’m sure some are bots but a lot of them are actual people too, so “people are saying I’m the best president ever” isn’t exactly a false statement.
We’re also living in a society where things like articles from The Onion are being fact checked, so there’s also that.
Solkern
01-19-2020, 11:36 AM
If you look at the comments on most of his fb posts, there are always people in there saying he’s the best president ever. Just like comments under Obama’s posts when he was president.
I’m sure some are bots but a lot of them are actual people too, so “people are saying I’m the best president ever” isn’t exactly a false statement.
We’re also living in a society where things like articles from The Onion are being fact checked, so there’s also that.
Didn’t some world leader in another country try to use the onion as a legitimate news source?
I remember reading about it, and couldn’t stop laughing
Methais
01-19-2020, 11:38 AM
Didn’t some world leader in another country try to use the onion as a legitimate news source?
I remember reading about it, and couldn’t stop laughing
Pretty sure Democrats have done it at least once too.
Solkern
01-19-2020, 11:41 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fooled-by-the-onion-9-most-embarrassing-fails
Found it! And quite a few others lol
Parkbandit
01-19-2020, 11:50 AM
I'm not disagreeing with much of what you said. I really don't like Trump as president myself. But he's 10x better than a socialist/communist party running against him. I pick my battles. Democrats have picked my battle for me by going so far left, so far socialist, so far communist, so far racist, so far sexist, that my only option is to vote party line Republican.
Exactly.
I knew in 2016 that it was either Trump or Hillary.. and there is no way I would ever pull the lever for that crooked ass bitch. I also knew what a complete meltdown the left would have if Trump was elected.. so that was frosting on the cake.
What I didn't know is how fucking butthurt they would be and continue to be though. This has been the best election result of my lifetime and it'll only get better when he's re-elected over some socialist who promises anyone who votes for him/her some free stuff.
He may not be my choice for President.. but he's OUR President. Get on board the MAGA Express bitches.
Seran
01-19-2020, 02:30 PM
I can't speak of taxes.. especially repatriation taxation.. but all I know as a small business owner, I have more money in my pocket now directly because of the Trump tax cuts.
Also, I've never heard of someone paying 35% in real taxes.. so you may want to find yourself a better tax accountant.
I really wonder if the repatriation tax couldn't be made more beneficial to the US Economy by allowing a 100% exemption for investments in US based infrastructure or non-governing employees. The assumption being business growth and construction creates jobs and exempting salaries of lay employees adds monies spent on domestic goods and services.
Methais
01-20-2020, 09:25 AM
Exactly.
I knew in 2016 that it was either Trump or Hillary.. and there is no way I would ever pull the lever for that crooked ass bitch. I also knew what a complete meltdown the left would have if Trump was elected.. so that was frosting on the cake.
What I didn't know is how fucking butthurt they would be and continue to be though. This has been the best election result of my lifetime and it'll only get better when he's re-elected over some socialist who promises anyone who votes for him/her some free stuff.
He may not be my choice for President.. but he's OUR President. Get on board the MAGA Express bitches.
https://i.imgur.com/d19w0lc.png
Exactly.
I knew in 2016 that it was either Trump or Hillary.. and there is no way I would ever pull the lever for that crooked ass bitch. I also knew what a complete meltdown the left would have if Trump was elected.. so that was frosting on the cake.
What I didn't know is how fucking butthurt they would be and continue to be though. This has been the best election result of my lifetime and it'll only get better when he's re-elected over some socialist who promises anyone who votes for him/her some free stuff.
He may not be my choice for President.. but he's OUR President. Get on board the MAGA Express bitches.
Its not surprising to me that you would be in favor of a fascist authoritarian regieme as long as you were on the side of the dictator.
Fortybox
01-20-2020, 10:33 AM
Its not surprising to me that you would be in favor of a fascist authoritarian regieme as long as you were on the side of the dictator.
:lol:
You're such a moron.
Methais
01-20-2020, 11:19 AM
Its not surprising to me that you would be in favor of a fascist authoritarian regieme as long as you were on the side of the dictator.
You are seriously the dumbest person alive. There are two ways to fix that, but only one would actually work in your case.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2020, 11:21 AM
https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five-members-of-joe-bidens-family-got-rich-through-his-connections/
How five members of Joe Bidens family got rich through his connections.
Man, sure looks criminal to me. We need a 3 year long investigation.
RichardCranium
01-20-2020, 11:40 AM
You are seriously the dumbest person alive. There are two ways to fix that, but only one would actually work in your case.
Backlash is just doing his part to get everyone that's Pro-Life to rethink their stance.
Seran
01-20-2020, 12:05 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five-members-of-joe-bidens-family-got-rich-through-his-connections/
How five members of Joe Bidens family got rich through his connections.
Man, sure looks criminal to me. We need a 3 year long investigation.
When Biden is elected President this year, perhaps Republican's can begin an impeachment investigation.
Methais
01-20-2020, 12:11 PM
Backlash is just doing his part to get everyone that's Pro-Life to rethink their stance.
I'm certainly in favor of post-birth abortion now, up to 70 years old even.
When Biden is elected President this year, perhaps Republican's can begin an impeachment investigation.
Quoted for retardedness.
Trump isn't the third president in American history to be impeached for helping his family be successful. Nor for appointing his family to political positions within the government. Trump has been impeached for bribing a foreign power with congressionally approved tax payer funded aid to combat a hostile nation for their and our security so that they would open a sham investigation into the last surviving son of his biggest political opponent in the next election.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-20-2020, 12:15 PM
Trump isn't the third president in American history to be impeached for helping his family be successful. Nor for appointing his family to political positions within the government. Trump has been impeached for bribing a foreign power with congressionally approved tax payer funded aid to combat a hostile nation for their and our security so that they would open a sham investigation into the last surviving son of his biggest political opponent in the next election.
LITERALLY NOTHING you wrote is correct. You don't even know why he was impeached.
Methais
01-20-2020, 12:18 PM
Trump isn't the third president in American history to be impeached for helping his family be successful. Nor for appointing his family to political positions within the government. Trump has been impeached for bribing a foreign power with congressionally approved tax payer funded aid to combat a hostile nation for their and our security so that they would open a sham investigation into the last surviving son of his biggest political opponent in the next election.
https://imgur.com/3gbPRx3.gif
Seran
01-20-2020, 12:22 PM
Trump isn't the third president in American history to be impeached for helping his family be successful. Nor for appointing his family to political positions within the government. Trump has been impeached for bribing a foreign power with congressionally approved tax payer funded aid to combat a hostile nation for their and our security so that they would open a sham investigation into the last surviving son of his biggest political opponent in the next election.
True.
He also broke the law by withholding the aid. So there is that too.
Neveragain
01-20-2020, 02:02 PM
He also broke the law by withholding the aid. So there is that too.
Only you would continue to give money to a crackhead that tells you they are going to use that money for rent.
Neveragain
01-20-2020, 02:03 PM
Backlash is just doing his part to get everyone that's Pro-Life to rethink their stance.
It's not easy, man. The high road never is.
Methais
01-20-2020, 02:11 PM
He also broke the law by withholding the aid. So there is that too.
https://i.imgflip.com/3mohcl.jpg
Wrathbringer
01-20-2020, 02:58 PM
When Biden is elected President this year, perhaps Republican's can begin an impeachment investigation.
1. Biden has the best chance for a democrap victory.
2. Biden has no chance vs Trump and our record high stock market, low taxes, booming economy and record low unemployment.
3. You are a whiney butthurt libtard famous for your massive retardation.
Methais
01-20-2020, 03:05 PM
1. Biden has the best chance for a democrap victory.
2. Biden has no chance vs Trump and our record high stock market, low taxes, booming economy and record low unemployment.
3. You are a whiney butthurt libtard famous for your massive retardation.
And he's a pedo. Which is why they're such big fans of Biden:
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DenseFlusteredCoqui-size_restricted.gif
Neveragain
01-20-2020, 05:09 PM
When Biden is elected President this year, perhaps Republican's can begin an impeachment investigation.
A part of me wants Biden to become president, simply so we can rummage through the last 12 years of PC Democrats posting about the evils of rich old white men.
I'm also trying to figure out what PR genius decided to use this visually unappealing picture for Bidens campaign adds.
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/583f07a81a00002500cca78d.jpeg?ops=scalefit_630_400 _noupscale
It screams "smoke filled room".
ClydeR
01-23-2020, 11:54 AM
Trump broke his own record yesterday for the most Tweets in one day by a President. Almost all of the Tweets were about impeachment.
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump set a presidential record for activity on his favorite social media platform Wednesday, tweeting and retweeting at length about the Senate impeachment trial, the Democrats who want to replace him and much, much more.
By 4:25 p.m. ET, Trump had barreled through his previous record of 123 Twitter postings in a day that he set a little over a month ago, according to Factba.se, a service that compiles and analyzes data on Trump’s presidency.
More... (https://www.stripes.com/news/us/trump-sets-presidential-record-for-most-tweets-in-a-day-1.615852)
Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-23-2020, 11:57 AM
Trump broke his own record yesterday for the most Tweets in one day by a President. Almost all of the Tweets were about impeachment.
Can you create a word cloud of his tweets for us so we can better understand?
Methais
01-23-2020, 01:06 PM
Trump broke his own record yesterday for the most Tweets in one day by a President. Almost all of the Tweets were about impeachment.
THIS IS AMAZING ESPECIALLY SINCE TRUMP IS ONLY THE 2ND PRESIDENT EVER TO USE A TWITTER ACCOUNT WHILE IN OFFICE OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG IF YOU NEED THE REAL SCOOP ON ANYTHING AT ALL LOOK NO FURTHER THAN CLYDERETARD!!!!!!!1
Here you go buddy, you earned it!!!
https://i.imgur.com/jMRkkWK.png
ClydeR
01-23-2020, 01:08 PM
Can you create a word cloud of his tweets for us so we can better understand?
Can I? Of course.
Will I? Nope.
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Methais
01-23-2020, 01:28 PM
Can I? Of course.
Will I? Nope.
Why? Because I'm a pedo. I used to fantasize about Hermione until she turned 18. Now she's gross.
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Suppa Hobbit Mage
01-23-2020, 01:49 PM
I don't care who you are. More than 5 tweets a day is too many.
Methais
01-23-2020, 02:01 PM
I don't care who you are. More than 0 tweets ever is too many.
Fixed.
Seran
01-23-2020, 02:11 PM
Trump broke his own record yesterday for the most Tweets in one day by a President. Almost all of the Tweets were about impeachment.
The panic is real. After his campaign being sued for unjust enrichment and Schiff's marathon debrief about his alleged crimes, it's understandable the President is acting like a cornered rat.
Methais
01-23-2020, 02:16 PM
My butthurt is real.
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Parkbandit
01-23-2020, 03:18 PM
The panic is real. After his campaign being sued for unjust enrichment and Schiff's marathon debrief about his alleged crimes, it's understandable the President is acting like a cornered rat.
LOL. I heard the same thing leading up to the 2016 election. Then again at the Russian collusion hoax. Then again for SCOTUS nominations. Now again for the "impeachment" "hearing".
Boy who cried wolf syndrome is real.
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