That just shows how biased surveycraft can be.Originally Posted by Ashliana
You could ask someone "Do you like that your kids are able to be on your insurance for free until they're 27?" They'll say yes. You can then ask someone "Do you think it is right for a poor unmarried childless 18 year old working in construction to pay a higher health insurance premium so that someone else's children, who likely are in graduate school and on the cusp of earning above average incomes, can get free insurance?" They'll say no. You can then ask someone "Do you like that your health insurance now provides free prenatal care?" They'll say yes. You then ask "Should a 62 year old male be forced to buy insurance that provides free prenatal care?" They'll say no.
Surveys are bullshit, how the questions are phrased entirely dictates the responses of the average citizen who does not have the brain power, or simply time, to think through it when they're talking on the phone while trying to get dinner cooked and the kids are screaming in the background etc.
ROFL. This law is NEVER going to work, it is fundamentally mathematically flawed. It already is experiencing adverse selection which is going to skew the risk pools to the unhealthy which will result in higher premiums which will further create adverse selection, until it kills itself. This is a fact of nature because they created a mandate with no teeth. Meanwhile, every single year this law is in effect premiums will go up, which will be major national news. It will go over budget because as premiums grow, so do subsidies, that will result in constant budget negotiations in DC, which will be major national news. This is not going to fade into background noise once the website is fixed. This is a perpetual trainwreck.Why do you think the Republicans devoted everything they had into taking it down during the shutdown? Because once Americans realize what the law actually does, and that they agree with it, repealing it is an impossibility. The website issues are a huge give-away to the GOP's noise machine, but ultimately, people will forget about technical issues once they get it working.
ROFL. Obamacare didn't fix any actual problem. It doesn't even get rid of the problem of uninsured people, the most recent Whitehouse estimates are something like 20% of previous uninsured will get covered (And most of that through medicaid, which should hardly be considered insurance). You've really drunk the koolaid.Also funny how technical issues with a website somehow translate into "We should repeal the whole thing! Oh. Our idea about fixing the numerous problems the healthcare system had before the law? Uhhhhhhh.. Uhhhhh.... Uhhhhhhhhhh!.. Vouchers? Free market? Herpderp? Crickets?"
The actual problem is not that people were uninsured, the problem was medical cost inflation causing people to be priced out of the insurance market. Medical care exhibits higher inflation than any other area of our economy (except perhaps higher education, those two are both fucked), for a variety of complex economic reasons. The biggest problem is the third party payment system removes normal pricing signals from the market which results in no normal market controls on price. Additionally there are other problems such as the biased favored tax status for employer provided coverage to the detriment of the individual market. The issue of people over consuming more healthcare than they need, as well as issues with defensive medicine and providers maximizing against payment formulas, but the big underlying cause is the third party payment system. The obvious comparison is to plastic surgery which doesn't result in third party payments. What medical procedure is cheaper than it was 20 years ago? Breast implants, laser eye surgery, liposuction. Meanwhile, what has happened to the cost of a stent? X-Ray? Physical therapy? This is not a coincidence.
Does Obamacare fix any of that? No, it doesn't. Obamacare is hooking up a blood bags to a guy who slit his wrists while not bothering to sew up his incisions, he is just going to keep on bleeding, and you can keep wasting blood by hooking up more bags, but the smart thing would be to sew up his cuts.
Providing universal subsidized healthcare is not an inherently bad idea, it is a noble goal. Obamacare is probably the worst possible way to try to achieve that. Republicans need not do anything and it will die, they should have not bothered with the shutdown (though it was telling that when they pared back all demands EXCEPT the one that congress would also need to go into the exchanges, the Democrats still said no. The only reason the shutdown lasted as long as it did was that Obamacare was so great Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid refused to sign up). The thing is going to die by itself. Maybe then we'll no longer have a peacock in the whitehouse and pride will stop getting in the way of real reforms and solutions to actually fix the underlying problem.
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