Dunemaul

[AnticorRifling]

Someone mentioned glassjoe, I didn't know he was in your guild. I've never run anything with him but holy shit is he a complete annoying douchebag in the trade chat.

[Parkbandit]

Your GM is a brainless twat if he thinks hes going to hold it together with that kind of attitude.

LF

............


Did my innocent little Littlefang just call someone a brainless TWAT!???

W-T-F!

[Some Rogue]

Someone mentioned glassjoe, I didn't know he was in your guild. I've never run anything with him but holy shit is he a complete annoying douchebag in the trade chat.

I don't call him Assjoe for nothing. And if you think that's bad, you should hear vent...

[Parkbandit]

Someone mentioned glassjoe, I didn't know he was in your guild. I've never run anything with him but holy shit is he a complete annoying douchebag in the trade chat.

I have him on ignore and muted on vent. He's one of the most annoying people ever in WoW.

[TheEschaton]

He randomly meows in the middle of boss fights. OMFG.

-TheE-

[AnticorRifling]

Yeah he'd be on mute. In trade he comes across as someone who has zero social skills IRL so he's doing all he can to live his life in the game, we've got a few of those too.

[Keller]

Yeah he'd be on mute. In trade he comes across as someone who has zero social skills IRL so he's doing all he can to live his life in the game, we've got a few of those too.

So have you considered leveling a retadin?

[AnticorRifling]

So have you considered leveling a retadin?
Mine is 74 :)

[Me]

............


Did my innocent little Littlefang just call someone a brainless TWAT!???

W-T-F!


I felt the need.

LF

[g++]

5.2-5.4k is about the cap for shadow priests right now, if he's does much more than that he's far superior to me. He might be popping a wild magic potion during blood lust too, idk.

I was also unflasked and not using buff food because, like I said before, Naxx25 is a faceroll. With that up, I'd probably have been around 4.7ishk, that's what I would normally do. Oh, and in 25 man boss fights, I usually am fighting a latency of anywhere from 1k to 1.6k. That's a second of lag, mang. I need to hardwire my connection, and that's probably the difference between the two of us. :( There's also the factor that I suck at my class. :P I only used the 4.2k in my argument because in 95% of raids on the server, that would be top 5 dps behind the hunters/mages/locks, and in our guild I'm at the bottom of the list, meaning we're pretty damn good as a collective, but the people who are doing 5k+ are valued more as guild members despite being raging douchebags.

-TheE-

Ah that makes sense. When you say patchwerk dps i assumed you meant while going for the achievement.

Also you guys should come to nazjatar when your guild implodes, good raiders are actually a commodity worth protecting on dead servers.

[TheEschaton]

Well, we always have enough dps for the achievment, I believe we did it in 2m 34 seconds this week.

[g++]

Well, we always have enough dps for the achievment, I believe we did it in 2m 34 seconds this week.

Our guild is only a couple months old we still only have 13-14 solid members, the other 50 are a grab bag of very casuals, cant make raids and "whats a rotation" members. Me and maybe 6 or 7 other dps can go over 6k on patchwerk and drag the others along kicking and screaming if we buff and try but since most of the guild already has it we dont bother most weeks. We need like 10 more good recruits to really take off.

[oldanforgotten]

Our guild is only a couple months old we still only have 13-14 solid members, the other 50 are a grab bag of very casuals, cant make raids and "whats a rotation" members. Me and maybe 6 or 7 other dps can go over 6k on patchwerk and drag the others along kicking and screaming if we buff and try but since most of the guild already has it we dont bother most weeks. We need like 10 more good recruits to really take off.

That's a recipe for drama too, because it looks like one core of people is carrying the other.

[g++]

That's a recipe for drama too, because it looks like one core of people is carrying the other.


I dont mind, I just hope some of them get better and move into the core. If not they just sit on the roster <shrug>

[RichardCranium]

If someone wants to run me through some low level instances (particularly RFK) PM me. I'm tired of getting kicked from groups for no apparent reason.

[Trouble]

When you say no apparent reason, are there deaths involved or you suddenly get dropped even before you get to the instance? What class/spec are you?

[Some Rogue]

If someone wants to run me through some low level instances (particularly RFK) PM me. I'm tired of getting kicked from groups for no apparent reason.

What's your character name? I have a guild I made that's mostly my alts and a few others here from the PC. I'll invite you in if you need a guild. If I am not raiding on my main, I'm glad to help out.

[oldanforgotten]

so, got something new to give a whirl for if you feel extremely insane. Try and blitz sarth 25.

OMG its hard as hell. Although I have to see anything as funny or as difficult as the druid's assignment on that fight.

[Me]

The healing Druid he should be friggin healing me? The Tank Druid he mostly plays kissy face with Sarth? The chicken druid he mostly dies by standing in a void zone?

LF

[oldanforgotten]

The healing Druid he should be friggin healing me? The Tank Druid he mostly plays kissy face with Sarth? The chicken druid he mostly dies by standing in a void zone?

LF

The feral druid who has to get to max taunt range when sarth is at 27/28%, taunt Tenebron, and then go cat and run like a bitch straight for the instance portal.

When Sarth gets to 25%, the drakes go berserk (melee swings of ballpark 15k on a tank, 150% faster swingspeed, and a breath that hits for 100k unmitigated). The key is to 1) kill sarth before shadron lands (otherwise its an INSTANT wipe), and finish off sarth before tenebron gets back to the raid after killing the feral.

[g++]

Healing druid? A shaman should be healing you for bloodlust no?

Oh I just realized your talking about 25 man never mind.

[Me]

I don't even think we have any healing shaman.

LF

[AnticorRifling]

That's a crime, brain heal is just sexy. Not to mention when blood lust goes it's time to hit hysteria and dancing rune weapon for more pew pew in the choo choo.

[g++]

I don't even think we have any healing shaman.

LF

From what I have read you need one too zerg Sarth on 10 man, the shammy keeps hots on everyone while 1 guy OT's the first drake and 8 melee bash the beejessus out of sarth. When the first drake lands the shammy pops blood lust. Some guild managed to do Sarth 3D in 72 seconds using that strategy.

[Parkbandit]

Any news on the patch coming out? I thought it would have been out this week... though I'm glad it's not.

[Some Rogue]

They never announce those things, you know that. My guess is it's this coming tuesday. They pushed Noblegarden back to the 21st I think. So I think they will give a week for people to play with the new content before they push a holiday out.

[Trouble]

Yeah I've been hearing next Tuesday as well. I can't wait for dual specs.

[CrystalTears]

Yeah I've been hearing next Tuesday as well. I can't wait for dual specs.
But no equipment manager yet, which makes me sad. :(

At least I don't have to tote a ranged ammo bag anymore and use a regular one. 1000 arrows FTW!

[Keller]

But no equipment manager yet, which makes me sad. :(

At least I don't have to tote a ranged ammo bag anymore and use a regular one. 1000 arrows FTW!

Are you playing on Dunemaul again?

[CrystalTears]

Are you playing on Dunemaul again?
Nope, moved onto a PvE server.

[Parkbandit]

But no equipment manager yet, which makes me sad. :(

At least I don't have to tote a ranged ammo bag anymore and use a regular one. 1000 arrows FTW!

You won't have to carry any ammo next patch according to the patch notes. Not sure if we lose the 15% haste though.

[CrystalTears]

You won't have to carry any ammo next patch according to the patch notes. Not sure if we lose the 15% haste though.
Right, won't have to carry an ammo bag because arrows will stack to 1000, which rocks. One or two slots is enough to start for me. And yes, the haste will be taken away.

[Parkbandit]

Right, won't have to carry an ammo bag because arrows will stack to 1000, which rocks. One or two slots is enough to start for me. And yes, the haste will be taken away.

I haven't been keeping up with the patch notes, but it used to be that we no longer had to purchase ammo like we currently do.. you are saying the only thing that is changing is it stacks to 1000?

That sucks compared to unlimited ammo. And it REALLY sucks we lose the 15% haste rating.

[Some Rogue]

Your autoshot gets automatic haste though I think.

[CrystalTears]

I haven't been keeping up with the patch notes, but it used to be that we no longer had to purchase ammo like we currently do.. you are saying the only thing that is changing is it stacks to 1000?

That sucks compared to unlimited ammo. And it REALLY sucks we lose the 15% haste rating.
Ammunition: All types of gun and bow ammunition now stack to 1000. All quivers and ammo pouches no longer provide haste. 15% ranged haste is now built in to Hunter Autoshot.

:)

[SHAFT]

I've come to Dunemaul. Look for Abomonus

[Some Rogue]

Looks like 3.1 hits tomorrow. The preview video and page are up and it's also available on the Blizzard download servers. :D

[Parkbandit]

Looks like 3.1 hits tomorrow. The preview video and page are up and it's also available on the Blizzard download servers. :D

FUCK! I'm not ready for the patch! NEXT WEEK! NEXT WEEK!

I'm currently sitting on the floor to type this because my new desk hasn't arrived yet. :(

[Some Rogue]

Hell, it will probably be three days for the servers to be stable and not lag.

[Ignot]

I thought I was stuck at 67% but it turns out it's just a really long DL. Don't know if anyone else had the same thing happen.

[Trouble]

It's a 715 MB download AFAIK. If you had downloaded the first batch from a couple of weeks ago (which was 500 MB) it would seem to go quickly through the first 500 (while it checks the integrity of the file) then slow down significantly once you got past 500.

Or is the final patch more than 715 MB?

Supposedly some Naxx stuff will be buyable for badges now. I can finally pick up the Totem of Hex for Moo.

[g++]

It's a 715 MB download AFAIK. If you had downloaded the first batch from a couple of weeks ago (which was 500 MB) it would seem to go quickly through the first 500 (while it checks the integrity of the file) then slow down significantly once you got past 500.

Or is the final patch more than 715 MB?

Supposedly some Naxx stuff will be buyable for badges now. I can finally pick up the Totem of Hex for Moo.


Shit its patched already? The realm firsts are gonna be done before I get home from work :/

[Trouble]

Shit its patched already? The realm firsts are gonna be done before I get home from work :/

Oh I don't know if it's back up yet. I was just using the two batches downloadable from the background Downloader in my examples (first batch like 3-4 weeks ago was 500 MB, second batch from 1-2 weeks ago upped the total to ~715 MB). There may be yet another batch in the final patch. I'm at work too so I don't know. I'm sure PB will be on when it comes back up, and SR will check during lunch.

[Some Rogue]

I don't think they're doing many realm first achievements this time around. I can't find the blue post but I think it was just mainly for a full clear of 25 and maybe one other.

[g++]

I don't think they're doing many realm first achievements this time around. I can't find the blue post but I think it was just mainly for a full clear of 25 and maybe one other.


Weve got Nascent on our server. Just to be dicks they switched sides 3 weeks ago to alliance and went 1-80, cleared naxx, and maly , did undying, downed Sarth 3d in both versions and became the #1 alliance guild in 3 weeks. If they dont have 25man down within an hour of the patch being released ill be shocked.

[Some Rogue]

No one's even seen Yogg or Algalon. And to even get Algalon you have to complete the other bosses in hard mode right? I think it will take a little longer than a day or two.

[Keller]

I've not had a chance to look at patch notes yet: do we get the dual-spec shit?

What will it cost, in time (quests?) and gold?

[RichardCranium]

Yes.

I don't know, I don't know, and I don't know.

[Trouble]

I've not had a chance to look at patch notes yet: do we get the dual-spec shit?

What will it cost, in time (quests?) and gold?

Last I heard it was a simple one-time 1k fee. Then you get access to two sets of bars, talents, and glyphs. You can change any time out of combat while not in an arena (and possibly BG). There is a 5 sec cast time.

Glyphs will also not require a magic-thingy (forget the name right now) to apply, so you can now carry stacks and change them around for any given fight (for min-maxers).

[SHAFT]

i'm downloading it now. has anyone checked out the ultra video mode?

[SHAFT]

I thought I was stuck at 67% but it turns out it's just a really long DL. Don't know if anyone else had the same thing happen.

going through the same thing right now

[g++]

Last I heard it was a simple one-time 1k fee. Then you get access to two sets of bars, talents, and glyphs. You can change any time out of combat while not in an arena (and possibly BG). There is a 5 sec cast time.

Glyphs will also not require a magic-thingy (forget the name right now) to apply, so you can now carry stacks and change them around for any given fight (for min-maxers).

Yup and BG spec changes are illegal after you leave the gate area. Looking forward to playing my paladin more and my mage never again heh.

[Trouble]

going through the same thing right now

What's the total size of the download?

[Nieninque]

740 MB

[Trouble]

740 MB

Cool. I left my downloader running today and it had 100% of the 715 MB file so hopefully the remaining 35 MB will be set by the time I get home.

The people stuck at 67% must have downloaded the first 500 MB batch previously using the downloader and are stuck at the second & third batches. (500/740 = 67%).

Once more people get home form work/etc it should speed up.

[SHAFT]

i wish i could play. blizzard has issues

[AestheticDeath]

started 5 hours ago, and still only at 29%, this sucks

[RichardCranium]

Really? It took me all of 15 minutes. You're not missing anything anyway. All servers are still down.

[SHAFT]

it shouldn't take that long for it to dl. my only guess is that the server problems are effecting your dl

[Parkbandit]

started 5 hours ago, and still only at 29%, this sucks

You might want to check your firewall.. took me a grand total of like 10 minutes to download it this morning.

[Keller]

Is Dunemaul up and working?

I am wondering if I should leave work or keep chugging.

[Some Rogue]

Not yet, but realms are starting to appear in the realm list. They're still locked though.

[Some Rogue]

Apparently they're locked because there's 17,000 in queue. LOL

[RichardCranium]

Yeah this is horseshit. I have the whole week off and they're fucking with my game time.

[Trouble]

Yeah servers keep coming on and off the list, but even if you can get past the server list, no one can get to the char select screen.

[AnticorRifling]

ROFL I got into a queue for a random server it assigned me too (Altar of Storms) and I was 10,081 in queue. Every other server I tried has at least an 8k queue as well.

[RichardCranium]

The post-it on the sign-in screen says they're doing everything possible to get up within the next 2 to 3 hours.

Edit to add: Sounds like a regular night in PB's house.

[Some Rogue]

The post-it on the sign-in screen says they're doing everything possible to get up within the next 2 to 3 hours.

Edit to add: Sounds like a regular night in PB's house.

Pfft, Viagra's a helluva drug.

[AnticorRifling]

Pfft, Viagra's a helluva drug.
Yeah but if he forgets to take is Ggnko he can't remember what color pill he needs to take for his bedroom action so I'm guessing he just grabs a flintstone's chewable, falls asleep and leaves the wife to go sit on the washing machine again.

[Trouble]

OK I'm in on Dunemaul, can't get to my other server yet though.


Edit: issues though, like my toon is always showing the standing pose, even if running.
Edit2: just the one toon, the others are ok.

[Parkbandit]

I'll fucking kill you all.

[SHAFT]

i'm playing on dunemaul as we speak

[AestheticDeath]

You might want to check your firewall.. took me a grand total of like 10 minutes to download it this morning.

How's this crap work? I know nothing about firewalls. But the thing said I had a firewall encountered problem or whatever, and I clicked to fix it, opened the ports they told me... but its still slow as fuck.

And I thought firewalls blocked things, not slowed them down?

edit - 4 hrs after last post and its at 68%

:(

[Kyra231]

How's this crap work? I know nothing about firewalls. But the thing said I had a firewall encountered problem or whatever, and I clicked to fix it, opened the ports they told me... but its still slow as fuck.

And I thought firewalls blocked things, not slowed them down?

edit - 4 hrs after last post and its at 68%

:(

Did you check your wow download options on the to make sure it's not being throttled?

[AestheticDeath]

I thought I had a while back, but I don't recall where that is.

[AestheticDeath]

Hell, this thing has two windows and they don't agree, one says 68% and the other says 51%

found the throttle thing, didnt seem to make a difference.

[SHAFT]

and it crashes again

[Nieninque]

Hell, this thing has two windows and they don't agree, one says 68% and the other says 51%


One is the overall install percentage, the other is the download percentage.

[Some Rogue]

So Flame Leviathan is a faceroll. Seriously, anyone can kill that guy. Had a few issues with Razorscale before the instance servers went down. Now they're wanting to raid 5 days a week. :(

[StrayRogue]

Half the content cleared in half a day. Retarded. Utterly retarded.

[g++]

Half the content cleared in half a day. Retarded. Utterly retarded.


Wow seriously? How the hell did you get passed Ignis? Hes bugged.

1. He never loses his stacks so he starts one shotting our tank in under 2 minutes.

2. He melee attacks people in the flame pot instantly killing anyone he pulls in.

Gratz if you did link your guild so I can see what supermen look like.

[Some Rogue]

Besides, all but two bosses were on the PTR. Most people have seen them, know what they do, and learned the strat already.

[g++]

Besides, all but two bosses were on the PTR. Most people have seen them, know what they do, and learned the strat already.


he hits for 70k, whats the strat? hide?

[Some Rogue]

I wasn't replying to you...I was replying to the whine about it being half cleared already.

[g++]

I wasn't replying to you...I was replying to the whine about it being half cleared already.

Oh lol, yah we tried everything last night on ignis for hours and we had half our guild on the ptr before hand and knew the strategies....its just frigging impossible, like if he pulls anyone in the flame thing(which he does every 30 seconds) their just flat out dead and the last thing in their combat log is a melee hit for 70k. On top of that shattering the golems does nothing to his debuff so he gets stronger and stronger till at about 2-3 minutes he is essentially in enraged mode. Its frigging insane.

[Some Rogue]

He was hotfixed already I think.

[g++]

He was hotfixed already I think.

Well awsome I look forward to wooping his ass when I get home from work for wasting my time last night.

[Parkbandit]

So Flame Leviathan is a faceroll. Seriously, anyone can kill that guy. Had a few issues with Razorscale before the instance servers went down. Now they're wanting to raid 5 days a week. :(


:rofl:

I love to raid, but 5 days a week is too much. Learn all those fights this week.. I'll be back next week to pick up my free l00tz.

[Some Rogue]

:rofl:

I love to raid, but 5 days a week is too much. Learn all those fights this week.. I'll be back next week to pick up my free l00tz.

I declined for tonight. I still have a ton of shit to do to recover from the patch as well as farming to do. Hell, I cant even find someone to make the new glyph I need that doesn't charge 80g for it. I may make it in time for the raid but I figured it's better to decline and change my mind than to accept and have to cancel.

[Parkbandit]

So.. did CC actually make a comeback in this raid or is it all just "GO TANKS, TANK THAT SHIT.. DPS, DPS THAT SHIT..MOVE TO NEXT GROUP"? CC always was a fun part of many raids.. as long as they didn't expect a hunter to keep things trapped indefinitely.

[Some Rogue]

Well, it hasn't on anything we've done yet but I hear there is some trash it is needed.

[StrayRogue]

Didn't claim I'd cleared anything. My hardcore days ended when we pwned KJ. But yeah, for something to be opened and within hours 11/14 bosses down...way too undertuned imo. Within a week it will be cleared totally (if not days). Within a month farmed. Which means 6 months of easy, flat content, again.

[Parkbandit]

Didn't claim I'd cleared anything. My hardcore days ended when we pwned KJ. But yeah, for something to be opened and within hours 11/14 bosses down...way too undertuned imo. Within a week it will be cleared totally (if not days). Within a month farmed. Which means 6 months of easy, flat content, again.


Aren't there other modes.. like heroic? Just because 11/14 are down by a couple nerd guilds doesn't mean that the regular base can't enjoy the dungeons for a couple of months.

That's why I just don't understand the whole "WE HAVE 2 GET INTO TEH NEW INSTANCE AND PWN IT BEFORE THE END OF THIS WEEK EVEN IF WE HAVE 2 RAID EVERYNIGHT DAMMIT!".. Why? So you can be bored to tears in another month because you rushed through it?

Fuck that imo.

[Some Rogue]

.

That's why I just don't understand the whole "WE HAVE 2 GET INTO TEH NEW INSTANCE AND PWN IT BEFORE THE END OF THIS WEEK EVEN IF WE HAVE 2 RAID EVERYNIGHT DAMMIT!".. Why? So you can be bored to tears in another month because you rushed through it?

Fuck that imo.

QFT

[StrayRogue]

Doing it fast or slow doesn't make it any more or less difficult. If it's easy it will be done fast, as it is being done.

I don't like easy content. If you like it, fine. Stick with your naxx pugs. I'd rather be challenged by a game.

[Methais]

So Flame Leviathan is a faceroll. Seriously, anyone can kill that guy. Had a few issues with Razorscale before the instance servers went down. Now they're wanting to raid 5 days a week. :(

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[SHAFT]

looking for some enchanting work. willing to throw some gold your way for the trouble

[Methais]

Doing it fast or slow doesn't make it any more or less difficult. If it's easy it will be done fast, as it is being done.

I don't like easy content. If you like it, fine. Stick with your naxx pugs. I'd rather be challenged by a game.

Play a game that requires skill then.

[oldanforgotten]

meh, normal mode in heroic, there are definitely some bosses that are pushovers. IC, Razerscale, Xbot, Leviathon, and Hodir definitely seem like bosses that most organized guilds will down. Kologan and Auriya were definitely a bit more challenging but nothing too difficult. Looking forward to seeing what Thorim is like on Sunday.

That being said, this is exactly what Blizzard promised. The regular mode of the encounters were tuned to be beatable by anyone with time to put in to learn the encounters, so everyone could enjoy the full scope of the game and the content. The hard modes have better rewards and more of a challenge for players who are looking for it.

As for the challenge level of the hard modes, I don't know. It supposedly took Ensidia almost 14 hours of attempts to get Yogg Saron on easy mode. It took them a whole 30 hours to get Mu'ru, who has been claimed by just about everyone (including them) as the toughest raid boss ever released, along with C'thun. Let's see how quickly they start getting the hard modes down. There are a couple of hard modes that at least for now seem overtuned, relative to the normal mode encounter.

[Methais]

Sounds like some pretty serious business there.

[AnticorRifling]

I haven't even stepped into Ulduar yet, I'll be going on our first 25 man jaunt on Tuesday (assuming I've got a raid spot). I'm looking forward to seeing it regardless of overtuned, undertuned, whatever.

[oldanforgotten]

I haven't even stepped into Ulduar yet, I'll be going on our first 25 man jaunt on Tuesday (assuming I've got a raid spot). I'm looking forward to seeing it regardless of overtuned, undertuned, whatever.

It's tuned just fine. It's not puggable, and most average guilds will have a lot of fun learning the encounters. None of them seem overly difficult (fuck ignis and mimiron trash being the exceptions), and I'm fairly certain the hard modes will keep even the best guilds that raid 24-7 busy for a good month or two.

[g++]

Was just stopping by to inquire if dunemaul still had wait times, im thinking of transfering my alt there for kicks.

[Ignot]

i havent had any wait times.

[g++]

i havent had any wait times.

Cool, thanks.

If anyone is in a raiding guild on dune that has a schedule that is less than 7 days a week, let me know. Its getting to the point with my guild where I dont even want to log on because they know all my alts and the second i log on im invited to a raid. I dunno maybe it will clear up once the ulduar release dies down.

80 mage in naxx25, 80 pali in half ass naxx 10 for holy btw
and have done up to freya in my guild before I stopped logging on lol.

[Me]

We raid 4 nights a week tues, wed, thrus and sunday for 3 hours 6-9. Rarely go over unless we know we are getting it down in the next attempt. We are a casual with serious raid ethic. Mostly an adult mature group. I like it. Not sure what our status is on mages. We have 2 regulars and maybe 1 guy who shows up irregularly. You must not get offended by Mich screaming thats is his nice voice.

[Parkbandit]

Our guild has decided to go 4 nights a week.. from 7 to 11:30pm server time.. in an effort to compete with Assent on who blows through Ulduar the quickest.

On this news, I extended my vacation from WoW for another week. Raiding for 4 1/2 hours 4 nights a week until 2:30am my time is undoable.

[Some Rogue]

Our guild has decided to go 4 nights a week.. from 7 to 11:30pm server time.. in an effort to compete with Assent on who blows through Ulduar the quickest.

On this news, I extended my vacation from WoW for another week. Raiding for 4 1/2 hours 4 nights a week until 2:30am my time is undoable.

Too bad there are other guilds ahead of us that are closer to Assent.

You really should try to make a couple of the raids. You're gonna be the third hunter soon so you may not get the invite. You should just come as Rennick imo. Trolieo is a fucking waste of space. Can't afford to buy his consumables, can't afford to pay for his repairs but never does any dailies. I don't know what the fuck he does all the time, pvp I guess.

[AnticorRifling]

Trolieo is too busy being retarded in general chat once he's in the instance from what I saw last night.

[Some Rogue]

Not surprised. I keep general off in a raid but he's generally retarded on Vent too.

[Keller]

So who runs a pug 25-man Naxx that wants to let the Boose tag along for free lewts?

Doing arenas in S4 gear is teh suck.

[oldanforgotten]

Our guild has decided to go 4 nights a week.. from 7 to 11:30pm server time.. in an effort to compete with Assent on who blows through Ulduar the quickest.

On this news, I extended my vacation from WoW for another week. Raiding for 4 1/2 hours 4 nights a week until 2:30am my time is undoable.

That's a recipe for a lot of unhappy people. All of a sudden going hardcore is just a bad idea IMO.

There are guilds that will be raiding 6 or 7 days a week to race through the instance. They've always done that, and by nature tend to have the best players with the most focus simply because their recruitment pool and apps tend to be stronger for what they have historically accomplished.

There will be guilds that stick to their normal schedule and do the best they can with what they have, or at worst add an additional night or two here or there if enough people agree to show up via a vote.

There will be guilds that add raid time on a regular basis and change focus to try and burn through the instance, only to find that some of their members who want to be casual are turned off, and others who want to go more hardcore get upset at the inability to down content as quickly as the 7 day a week guilds, and they end up apping out, only to realize most of the time, it wasn't what they really wanted and they burn out or just can't compete with people who theorycraft constantly and live their lives in WoW and end up leaving anyway.

This instance has not been tuned to be overly difficult. You can down just about any of the first 10 encounters (up to mimiron) just /facerolling on keyboard and 2-3 attempts. They are relatively simple to figure out the mechanics, and after coming up with a strat, the non hard modes are easily enough done. Mimiron gets a bit crazy in Phase 4, but if your guild has the deeps to do things like a 2:15-2:20 PW with a normal raidcomp (3 tanks, 7 healers), then its just a matter of getting a good strat, favorable RNG and going apeshit until either the boss is dead or you are. General is somewhat of a pushover, and Yogg Saron even isn't too hard, but does require time to learn, and everyone has to be able to not need a pee or afk break for about 20-25 minutes straight.

That being said, why does it matter where you finish on your server, especially competing with a guild that may raid 7 days a week? IMO not worth it making people miserable just to be able to spam trade chat with some useless yellow acheivement text.

In 20 total hours of raid time so far, we've managed to get to Yogg, and I'm sure we'll have him within a week or two, well behind the top dog, but we didnt kill ourselves to do it. Blitzing to see content I can understand. Blitzing to beat the neighbor is just.... strange.

[Parkbandit]

Too bad there are other guilds ahead of us that are closer to Assent.

You really should try to make a couple of the raids. You're gonna be the third hunter soon so you may not get the invite. You should just come as Rennick imo. Trolieo is a fucking waste of space. Can't afford to buy his consumables, can't afford to pay for his repairs but never does any dailies. I don't know what the fuck he does all the time, pvp I guess.

I'm already the third hunter, or did we lose one? I signed up for Sunday's raid since it starts 2 hours earlier, and Monday. There is just no way in hell I can raid until 2:30am then drive an hour in the morning to work.

[g++]

Its not about bragging rights, we dont even keep the people/sites that track progress on our server updated. Its just my guild leaders personality, he cant stand that theres a lootable raid boss alive somewhere that he isnt looting once a week. Im pretty sure when the reset came around and we didnt have ulduar cleared he was twitching. He will prolly calm down once ulduar 25 is on farm, i just hope that comes before my departure cause I cant keep this up for more than another couple of weeks.

[Trouble]

My guild claims not to be a raiding guild, which I understood and agreed with when I joined, but it turns out they raid constantly so I'm getting the itch, especially with the new content release. If they never raided at all I'd be fine with it but when I log in and see raids going on 6 nights a week, I want in. The trouble is it's one of those inner circle type things where everyone knows everyone (and their spouses/kids) in RL or have been in the guild for 3 years, so even though I do decent DPS (http://wowwebstats.com/3q6sldjse46ps) (and heals (http://wowwebstats.com/sl56jt2fc4ew3)) I only get in a 25 when they need filler DPS/heals and almost never make it into a 10 man group. The good thing is that I'm the only elemental shaman in the guild so I get all the drops when I do get to go.

I really like the guild because everyone is an adult and no one ever gets upset about anything, but the not getting into raids thing is killing me. I just need to hack my way into one of the regular 10-man groups and then the 25's will follow by association. Otherwise I'll start looking for a new home.

[Some Rogue]

I'm already the third hunter, or did we lose one? I signed up for Sunday's raid since it starts 2 hours earlier, and Monday. There is just no way in hell I can raid until 2:30am then drive an hour in the morning to work.

Vidanric switched over to her druid Yowa. But Faith I think is playing his hunter now.

[Methais]

Its not about bragging rights, we dont even keep the people/sites that track progress on our server updated. Its just my guild leaders personality, he cant stand that theres a lootable raid boss alive somewhere that he isnt looting once a week. Im pretty sure when the reset came around and we didnt have ulduar cleared he was twitching. He will prolly calm down once ulduar 25 is on farm, i just hope that comes before my departure cause I cant keep this up for more than another couple of weeks.

Your guild leader sounds like quite the ladies' man.

[Parkbandit]

So who runs a pug 25-man Naxx that wants to let the Boose tag along for free lewts?

Doing arenas in S4 gear is teh suck.

Ew. Yea, I've pretty much assembled my pvp set via the Vault ( big whooping 1 piece ), badge shit and honor from bgs.

I think we are running a 25 naxx tonight, and I'm sure after the last 10 days of raids, we'll be looking to fill a couple spots.

[Keller]

Ew. Yea, I've pretty much assembled my pvp set via the Vault ( big whooping 1 piece ), badge shit and honor from bgs.

I think we are running a 25 naxx tonight, and I'm sure after the last 10 days of raids, we'll be looking to fill a couple spots.

Nice, let me know.

If I'm not on abicaboose, I'll be on Draebo.

[AnticorRifling]

I had half of my raid on mute last night.

[Some Rogue]

My mute list keeps growing along with my ignore list.

[Me]

there is no way your guild can even come close to Assent they go a lot more than 4 hours a night. They burn through players like you wouldn't believe. If you don't keep an attendance that is like 80% you are guild kicked, if your dps is not close to 4k or up you are gkicked, if you are not one of the main team you sit outside the instance not doing anything else but waiting or hoping you will get in. You don't want to be Assent. You know what will happen if your guild does start to compete your members will get a guild invite from assent and in turn you become farm team for them. Shoo I am betting your guild leader is starting to think he would fit into Assent too. Oni, Malovency survive because the are not quite as hard core as Assent. I have had my server first. It almost destroyed our guild and I will never do that kind of raiding again. Just not worth it. I enjoy tacking new bosses and downing them without feeling guilty that I didn't stay 10 hours a day.

LF

[Ignot]

Our guild has decided to go 4 nights a week.. from 7 to 11:30pm server time.. in an effort to compete with Assent on who blows through Ulduar the quickest.

On this news, I extended my vacation from WoW for another week. Raiding for 4 1/2 hours 4 nights a week until 2:30am my time is undoable.

Sheesh. That sounds more like a job then a game. I don't blame you for taking a vacation. I have never raided before because I'm a noob but I find it hard to be able to sit and play WoW for 4 1/2 hours, let alone 4 times a week. I guess WoW is serious business. Do raids usually take that long to do?

[Parkbandit]

Sheesh. That sounds more like a job then a game. I don't blame you for taking a vacation. I have never raided before because I'm a noob but I find it hard to be able to sit and play WoW for 4 1/2 hours, let alone 4 times a week. I guess WoW is serious business. Do raids usually take that long to do?

If you think participating in a raid sounds like a job.. you should try to organize and lead a raid. It's 100X worse because it's exactly like a job (but don't get paid)

And Keller.. sorry about Naxx last night. Most of the people that were supposed to show up last night never did..

[Keller]

And Keller.. sorry about Naxx last night. Most of the people that were supposed to show up last night never did..

It's ok. I was double-boxing with Draebo in arenas.

Thanks for the invite.

[Trouble]

It's ok. I was double-boxing with Draebo in arenas.

Hah that's a good idea. Do you ever win any or is it just to get your 10 games in a week? What class is Draebo?

[Keller]

Hah that's a good idea. Do you ever win any or is it just to get your 10 games in a week? What class is Draebo?

Ele shaman. I'm pretty bad because I took him over at 80 having never played a shaman and played for about a month as resto before respeccing to ele on Tuesday.

The comp is disc priest (Stevenseagal playing Rasputen), Natureslore (boomkin), and me as an ele shaman.

We got to 1650. This season you start at 0 rating and have to win your games to get up.

[SHAFT]

I want to raid

[AnticorRifling]

Ele shaman. I'm pretty bad because I took him over at 80 having never played a shaman and played for about a month as resto before respeccing to ele on Tuesday.

The comp is disc priest (Stevenseagal playing Rasputen), Natureslore (boomkin), and me as an ele shaman.

We got to 1650. This season you start at 0 rating and have to win your games to get up.
I'm at 1400 with a resto shaman and me on my DK. It would probably help if I wasn't PvE spec'd...but we do decent.

[Parkbandit]

I'm at 1400 with a resto shaman and me on my DK. It would probably help if I wasn't PvE spec'd...but we do decent.

L2dualspecimo.

[AestheticDeath]

I still cannot decide on good specs for my DKs. I have like 6 different ones now, on different servers, most still around the low 60s, but does anyone have like really good specs for tanking, or DPS? I know all can work, but I can't seem to ever really decide on what to take.

I wind up mixing in some unholy far enough to get the perma-pet, and then some blood to get healing stuff, cause I hate not being able to heal myself. But it seems a waste to put points 50/50. I really don't see how much help some of the things will give me. Like all the +dmg and +crit to only certain abilities. When I went frost I saw a ton of difference in frost dmg especially icy touch and whatnot.

I tried an almost pure frost build for tanking, then got totally owned by a like lvl hunter that I think was speced for pvp. Though I think I could have taken him had I done some things different. It was insane how much damage he could push through though.

Anyhow, anyone have proven builds that really are good?

[Methais]

I still cannot decide on good specs for my DKs. I have like 6 different ones now, on different servers, most still around the low 60s, but does anyone have like really good specs for tanking, or DPS? I know all can work, but I can't seem to ever really decide on what to take.

Anyhow, anyone have proven builds that really are good?

Can't help you with tank builds, but this is the build I use mainly for pvp but I'd imagine it can hold its own in raids too/

This build is a blast though. Has great dps, great burst potential, and great survivability:

20/51/0
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMacZGzxzAMcofuVost

With that build I'm using glyph of hungering cold (makes it cost 0 runic power), obliterate (+20% damage), and icy touch (generates an extra 10 runic power).


I really don't see how much help some of the things will give me. Like all the +dmg and +crit to only certain abilities.

Between Rime, Subversion, and my regular crit rate (only around 20% right now), Obliterate has a passive 44% chance to crit.

Also Killing machine procs a lot, which gives you a 100% crit chance on your next frost strike, icy touch or howling blast. Between that and Obliterate's crit chance, you can burst someone down really fast, and it happens a lot.

And in case you're not aware of it, you can heal yourself with Death Coil while Lichborne is active. Between that, Improved Rune Tap (20% heal every 30 seconds), and Death Pact (sacrifices your ghoul and heals you for 40% of your maximum HP), you can survive a lot of things you normally wouldn't. Death Strike got nerfed hard in 3.1, but can still be useful.

[AestheticDeath]

how come you dont take icy talons? or mark of blood?

My problem is there are too many things I want in the middle of all three.

Hard for me to decide whats better.

Also most of the plate/DK gear I see has str agi and stam, but for dps/pvp should i be lookin for more strength or agility? seems crit would be better for pvp, but all i see on most people is high strength.

OH, and the thing you get to stop them from casting, will that stop hunters from using their abilities since they ar ebased off of mana? or is it not really a spell as far as that ability is concerned?

[Methais]

Short answer:

Str = attack power = adds damage to spells for a DK like spellpower does for casters.

Icy Talons only effects auto attack. Mark of Blood is too far down the blood tree.

[AestheticDeath]

you were right there at mark of blood, only needed the 20 points you already had

[Methais]

you were right there at mark of blood, only needed the 20 points you already had

Wrong. Mark of Blood is in the next tier down, requiring 25 points before you can even train in it. Therefore it would require 21 total points to take Mark of Blood, which means you can' train Howling Blast, making the guild 21/50/0 instead of 20/51/0.

L2ReadTalentTrees.

[AestheticDeath]

you would miss out on howling blast, but where are you getting the 25 point requirement thing from?

[Tea & Strumpets]

you would miss out on howling blast, but where are you getting the 25 point requirement thing from?

I don't understand how you can have been playing for this long.

[AnticorRifling]

51/2/18. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&n=Dachcow PvE Blood. I swapped out a glyph of dancing rune weapon for glyph of heart strike for some PvP goodness but I'll have the DRW glyph back there for raids next week. I need to get a new belt it's wasting too much on haste that I don't use anymore, same with boots.

[Methais]

you would miss out on howling blast, but where are you getting the 25 point requirement thing from?

My bad, I meant to say 20. Mark of Blood requres 20 points in blood before you can train it. Therefore you would need a total of 21 points in blood to have Mark of Blood, which makes it impossible to get Howling Blast in the frost tree, as that's a 51 point talent, and 51+21=72 talents, and you only have 71 points to spend at 80.

The build would look like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMac00oZGzxzAMcofuVosx

Instead of this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMacZGzxzAMcofuVost

[AestheticDeath]

are they planning on having another expansion to increase max level above 80? or this like the end of the 'trilogy' like a lot of games? WoW 2 maybe?

[Drisco]

you would miss out on howling blast, but where are you getting the 25 point requirement thing from?

He's not saying that it would cost 25 Points. He means it's on the 25 point tier.

That means You have to pick between The 55 Tier or the 25 Tier.

[Nieninque]

are they planning on having another expansion to increase max level above 80? or this like the end of the 'trilogy' like a lot of games? WoW 2 maybe?

For as long as they can milk this bitch...they will.

[Methais]

are they planning on having another expansion to increase max level above 80? or this like the end of the 'trilogy' like a lot of games? WoW 2 maybe?

There will be more. An expansion comes out roughly every 2 years, with the level cap being increased by 10.

Consequently, everything you worked for is pretty much made useless/obsolete upon the arrival of a new expansion.

[Nieninque]

There will be more. An expansion comes out roughly every 2 years, with the level cap being increased by 10.

Consequently, everything you worked for is pretty much made useless/obsolete upon the arrival of a new expansion.


Which gives my ADHD arse something to do for two weeks every year.

[g++]

I dont really know too much about DKs but I have noticed since this dude...

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Nazjatar&cn=Re%C3%AE&gn=Reb%C3%ADrth

Got our other dks to adopt his spec....i havent been able to top a dps chart since. As you can see the guys equipment blows. DKs = OP.

[Parkbandit]

Damage is less about a talent here or there and more about macros and being completely focused on the fight.

[Keller]

Damage is less about a talent here or there and more about macros and being completely focused on the fight.

Agreed. I did Naxx with TE the other night and I, a holydin w/ 1573 SP, was 4th in healing behind Mich, Obuk, and some other pally.

I was just healing balls out while others were likely alt-tabbed and otherwise fucking around.

[g++]

Damage is less about a talent here or there and more about macros and being completely focused on the fight.

True, although I know pvp mages that come to naxx frost spec who I will admit are flat out better players than I am and do less than half the damage I do in arcane or frost fire. Its prolly good to be focused, key bound and have an awsome spec.

[g++]

Agreed. I did Naxx with TE the other night and I, a holydin w/ 1573 SP, was 4th in healing behind Mich, Obuk, and some other pally.

I was just healing balls out while others were likely alt-tabbed and otherwise fucking around.

Since I have started healing I notice like in dps people seem to get quickly ostracized and crucified if they suck but if your a crappy healer you can have a very successful raiding career doing absolutely nothing. I also play a healadin, did a OS +2 last night where I had 1.2mil in heals for Sarth and the shaman healer who outgeared me had under 500k..no one even noticed.

[AestheticDeath]

I dont really know too much about DKs but I have noticed since this dude...

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Nazjatar&cn=Re%C3%AE&gn=Reb%C3%ADrth

Got our other dks to adopt his spec....i havent been able to top a dps chart since. As you can see the guys equipment blows. DKs = OP.

OK new question, taking a spec like this which is unholy, what aura do they use when they are DPSing? I mean blood, helps do more dmg and heals ya right? but unholy is mostly attack speed and some cooldown time, i assume frost is a no-no for a dps build?

[Methais]

OK new question, taking a spec like this which is unholy, what aura do they use when they are DPSing? I mean blood, helps do more dmg and heals ya right? but unholy is mostly attack speed and some cooldown time, i assume frost is a no-no for a dps build?

I don't really raid but that sounds about right. Unholy seems to be the pvp presence for the burst and faster movement speed, blood for pve dps and frost for tanking. Blood would work in pvp too, but I like unholy better in most cases.

[AnticorRifling]

OK new question, taking a spec like this which is unholy, what aura do they use when they are DPSing? I mean blood, helps do more dmg and heals ya right? but unholy is mostly attack speed and some cooldown time, i assume frost is a no-no for a dps build?
You won't ever DPS in Frost presence. Depending on the build and gear you might be able to use unholy presence in PvE with some success but generally you're not going to be able to trump the 15% damage increase of blood prensence.

For PvP it depends on what comp you're running, if you're there to win via attrition in slow matches frost isn't bad for the survivability. I almost always PvP in blood prensence though. Unholy does allow for some faster rune usage but that doesn't do much if you're not hitting hard...

[Some Rogue]

Pedobear with his tentacle pr0n shoulders..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/WoWScrnShot_042209_191915.jpg

[g++]

Pedobear with his tentacle pr0n shoulders..

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/WoWScrnShot_042209_191915.jpg

I got my shoulders last night...its great that they have installed night lights into mage armor I was beginning to get afraid of the dark.

[Some Rogue]

LOL, GM Hitler caused a gquit in a raid last night. I wonder how long before this guild crashes and burns.

[Keller]

Skond is back. HoR reunion?

[Sean of the Thread]

Why has every guild I've been in with you guys had so much drama?


Is it because PB wears a dress whilst playing?

[Some Rogue]

I bet that son of a bitch doesn't even have an Onyxia scale cloak to forget to wear anymore!

[Some Rogue]

Why has every guild I've been in with you guys had so much drama?


Is it because PB wears a dress whilst playing?

Because raiding is serious business. WoW is serious business. Some people don't get the message apparently (like me).

[Trouble]

Why has every guild I've been in with you guys had so much drama?


Is it because PB wears a dress whilst playing?

I don't think you ever made it into Grass is Greener, did you? That's the current guild that people like PB and SR are in. I think the PC folks are a bit more spread out nowadays.

[Keller]

<--- is in the guild <Cutest Paladin>

[Keller]

I bet that son of a bitch doesn't even have an Onyxia scale cloak to forget to wear anymore!

ahahahahahahah! I had forgotten about that.

He was so pissed at me. I was in whispers like, "Dude, I have no idea what's happening. I'm healing my balls off." And he was like, "Well, do better imo -- it's not like I'm undergeared."

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't think you ever made it into Grass is Greener, did you? That's the current guild that people like PB and SR are in. I think the PC folks are a bit more spread out nowadays.


Nah I gave up after 3 or 4 HoR splits/drama and spread out as well.

[Parkbandit]

LOL, GM Hitler caused a gquit in a raid last night. I wonder how long before this guild crashes and burns.
Who left? I told Sac I won't be raiding anymore since 2am is far too late and I never know if I have a 5 hour block of time to give him.

His push to become famous on the server just isn't what I joined for. Once I have some more free time, I'll probably join another guild.

[Some Rogue]

Claw left. I imagine he will come back when he cools off.

[Parkbandit]

Claw left. I imagine he will come back when he cools off.

LOL, yea he'll be back today. I saw Noobama left yesterday as well.

[Some Rogue]

Yeah, I saw that in the guild log. We also invited two new people. A feral druid and a shitty mage.

I wonder why we are constantly recruiting...

Oh right, the GM is a douche.

[oldanforgotten]

I'm assuming you guys easily have yogg down by now with that many hours a week. Why the continued rush? server first hard modes?

[Me]

I bet that son of a bitch doesn't even have an Onyxia scale cloak to forget to wear anymore!

I can make him one I have 3 onyxia scales still in my bank. Heheheh

LF

[Keller]

Claw left. I imagine he will come back when he cools off.

He pulled a Rasputen?

[Some Rogue]

or a Monkey

or a Nekk

[Some Rogue]

I'm assuming you guys easily have yogg down by now with that many hours a week. Why the continued rush? server first hard modes?

No, no we don't. He's already working on some of the achievements because "we waited too long last time."

We're up to Mimron. So, 10/14 dead.

[Keller]

or a Monkey

or a Nekk

Fuck you.

Monkey learned that shit from me. I have no idea where you learned it from.

I was gquitting over stupid shit since The Barren Fury!

[Me]

Fuck you.

Monkey learned that shit from me. I have no idea where you learned it from.

I was gquitting over stupid shit since The Barren Fury!

Monkey quit again? Saw him a ton in WG for a bit. You gquit over everything I just sat and simmered but then once I leave I rarely go back.

LF

[Keller]

Monkey is still playing, he just gquit. Particularly to join The Cobra Kai.

I think Monkey is now playing a DK: Donkeystrap.

[Some Rogue]

He raids on Monkey still. He's in our guild.

[oldanforgotten]

No, no we don't. He's already working on some of the achievements because "we waited too long last time."

We're up to Mimron. So, 10/14 dead.

Acheivements or hard modes? some of the acheivements arent too bad, and no offense but you're GM is kidding himself if he thinks those hard modes are as easy as they were for naxx/sarth/maly.

The Hodir hard mode acheivement is probably the easiest one to do (the 3 minute kill), and even thats no joke. The rest of those hard modes are generally much more difficult (and require counter-intuitive strats) than anything up to general. IC hard mode is completely brutal in live, and requires complete chain cooldowns from multiple tanks to get steelbreaker down before he one shots your tanks.

[Some Rogue]

Just achievements for now. We did one tower up for Flame Leviathan last night and that was pretty easy. I'm sure it will be much harder with the rest of them up.




Recent Achievements
( 04-29-2009 ) Heroic: Disarmed Destroy both of Kologarn's arms within 10 seconds and then defeat Kologarn on Heroic Difficulty.

( 04-29-2009 ) Heroic: Nerf Engineering Defeat XT-002 Deconstructor without him recovering any health from XS-013 Scrapbots on Heroic Difficulty.

( 04-29-2009 ) Heroic: Orbital Bombardment Defeat Flame Leviathan with 1 Orbital Defense System active on Heroic Difficulty.

( 04-28-2009 ) Heroic: A Quick Shave Defeat Razorscale without allowing her to fly into the air more than once on Heroic Difficulty.

[AestheticDeath]

I don't see how you people even pay enough attention to know what is going on.

When I get into larger scale pvp stuff, it's like, wtf. I get so lost, pippy longstockingsonofabitches bunny hopping all over the place, and I can't tell who I am supposed to be targeting half the time. They get behind me so i cant attack or block/parry, and by the time I get turned around they are behind me again. Or their fucking pet is eating me. Or they are fearing me. I am thinking of going back to some sort of ranged/caster. I really liked the control a mage gave me, in being able to keep a bit of distance. But they are so squishy.

I REALLY need some good macros for pvp.

I got killed yesterday because I couldn't see jack shit. Got stuck behind/underneath some glacier thing in the water while tryin to mine, and another guy ganked me before I could get clear and figure out who/where he was.

Anyhow, I don't see how you keep up with 25 people in a raid. How many of you raid/mass pvp freestyle with no macro/addon help?

[oldanforgotten]

Just achievements for now. We did one tower up for Flame Leviathan last night and that was pretty easy. I'm sure it will be much harder with the rest of them up.




Recent Achievements
( 04-29-2009 ) Heroic: Disarmed Destroy both of Kologarn's arms within 10 seconds and then defeat Kologarn on Heroic Difficulty.

( 04-29-2009 ) Heroic: Nerf Engineering Defeat XT-002 Deconstructor without him recovering any health from XS-013 Scrapbots on Heroic Difficulty.

( 04-29-2009 ) Heroic: Orbital Bombardment Defeat Flame Leviathan with 1 Orbital Defense System active on Heroic Difficulty.

( 04-28-2009 ) Heroic: A Quick Shave Defeat Razorscale without allowing her to fly into the air more than once on Heroic Difficulty.


Ahhh, ok, we got the latter 3 of those the first run through, but the Kologarn one is pretty impressive. I'm assuming you either killed one and then killed the other one in order to bring him down the last 30% or so? we killed both right away our first time in, and he put a dot on the entire raid ticking for 3.5k/second, wiped us within 6-7 seconds with all that rubble up.

[Some Rogue]

We got him to 32% or so, brought the left arm down to just a few percent, took out the right, left, then the last percent on his body.

[g++]

I don't see how you people even pay enough attention to know what is going on.

When I get into larger scale pvp stuff, it's like, wtf. I get so lost, pippy longstockingsonofabitches bunny hopping all over the place, and I can't tell who I am supposed to be targeting half the time. They get behind me so i cant attack or block/parry, and by the time I get turned around they are behind me again. Or their fucking pet is eating me. Or they are fearing me. I am thinking of going back to some sort of ranged/caster. I really liked the control a mage gave me, in being able to keep a bit of distance. But they are so squishy.

I REALLY need some good macros for pvp.

I got killed yesterday because I couldn't see jack shit. Got stuck behind/underneath some glacier thing in the water while tryin to mine, and another guy ganked me before I could get clear and figure out who/where he was.

Anyhow, I don't see how you keep up with 25 people in a raid. How many of you raid/mass pvp freestyle with no macro/addon help?

I wrote a long response to this about my experiences pvp'ing as a mage with some advice on how to be valuable in bgs but then I remembered this prolly happened in tarren mills or something and deleted it all.

I dont know anyone that raids without add-ons, not having deadly boss mods installed is a cardinal sin in raiding. I have met a few healers that use the built in UI to heal and they usually suck. Someone will always say they know a guy who is the awsomest healer ever and uses the built in UI but realisticly healbot and grid makes thing so much easier that I would not heal without it anymore and the same people that dont healbot usually also dont use recount so they only think theyr awsome because they dont have the proof that they arent. I use healbot on my paladin and decursive on my mage. I keep omen and recount in the background. I also run quest helper when im not raiding or bg'ing. I dont use macros for anything worth mentioning except zooming out but nearly all of my bars are keybound to some combo of control+alt and a-s-d-z-x-c-q-w-e.

So on my mage I would say I could prolly play without add-ons although losing deadly boss mods would suck balls because of the countdowns.

On my pali I would lose my mind without healbot and deadly boss mods. The rest is just nice.

[Keller]

I use minimal macros (mostly focus macros).

I use minimal addons (sRaid Frames (best heal frames ever), Gladius, WIM, Focus Frame).

I get along fine. Just make sure you bind all your keys. I also use r, f, v, t, and g and cntl/shift/alt variations of those.

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't see how you people even pay enough attention to know what is going on.

When I get into larger scale pvp stuff, it's like, wtf. I get so lost, pippy longstockingsonofabitches bunny hopping all over the place, and I can't tell who I am supposed to be targeting half the time. They get behind me so i cant attack or block/parry, and by the time I get turned around they are behind me again. Or their fucking pet is eating me. Or they are fearing me. I am thinking of going back to some sort of ranged/caster. I really liked the control a mage gave me, in being able to keep a bit of distance. But they are so squishy.

I REALLY need some good macros for pvp.

I got killed yesterday because I couldn't see jack shit. Got stuck behind/underneath some glacier thing in the water while tryin to mine, and another guy ganked me before I could get clear and figure out who/where he was.

Anyhow, I don't see how you keep up with 25 people in a raid. How many of you raid/mass pvp freestyle with no macro/addon help?

I don't know what shape they're in now but they were very capable at pwning in pvp and survivable doing their respective jobs in raids and instances before they were passed on.

I think you need to adjust your play style a bit is all and get the gui and macros down tight.

Lol no joke I get instant messages from people on occasion asking W T F ARE YOU DOING? about one of them in game. Lolz.

I still hope you're enjoying the game but there is a learning curve. Most of these guys will help you if you ask.

Except Alfster he's probably too busy killing all of redwood or at the ravens hill cemetery.

Oh and Falgrin is probably too busy aggroing everything on the map.

and let's not forget Nekk is probably too busy spamming the trade channel or bitching in guild chat.

and the list goes onnnnnnn.

[Sean of the Thread]

I am thinking of going back to some sort of ranged/caster. I really liked the control a mage gave me, in being able to keep a bit of distance. But they are so squishy.




Oh forgot to mention PVE a frost mage will be easy as shit or was anyways. And has good escape when being ganked. Same as the drood.

You should have a very capable hunter on that account that will level up fast as shit if you want to go ranged.

[Some Rogue]

okayyy

I think I've only ever said anything in trade twice and if by bitching in guild you mean making fun of people, then yes. These days I am more likely raiding or on an alt.

[Sean of the Thread]

:)

I guess I should have used italics.

You've helped me out a shit ton in the past.

[Parkbandit]

Oh and Falgrin is probably too busy aggroing everything on the map.



In my defense, that was only really when I played my first toon... A dwarven rogue. And it's not my fault Blizzard gave dwarves the god like power of seeing treasures on the mini map!!!

[Sean of the Thread]

LOL my first toon was a dwarven priest and I was like OOOOOOOOOOOH GOLD DOT ON THE RADAR zoooooooooom.

Then it was like OH SHIT RUN!

Good times.

[oldanforgotten]

Oh forgot to mention PVE a frost mage will be easy as shit or was anyways. And has good escape when being ganked. Same as the drood.

You should have a very capable hunter on that account that will level up fast as shit if you want to go ranged.

Frost is bad build for mimiron, but a frostfire bolt spec is god for general.

[Keller]

Frost is bad build for mimiron, but a frostfire bolt spec is god for general.

Are you autistic?

The guy barely knows what addons and macros are, I don't think he's hitting up Ulduar any time soon. Why not just say, "frost sucks for Molten Core?"

We fucking get it. You waste too many hours on WoW. I guess we should be happy you've found a hobby so you're not terrorizing sixteen year old "hackers" and their family pets, but ffs can you act like a normal human being and not wave your erect e-peen around any chance you get?

[Methais]

His push to become famous on the server...

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1232550426_worf%20face%20palm.gif

You should give me his name so I can tell him what a retard he is without any of you having to hear his QQ.


They get behind me so i cant attack or block/parry, and by the time I get turned around they are behind me again.

Stop keyboard turning and use the mouse.

[Some Rogue]

You should give me his name so I can tell him what a retard he is without any of you having to hear his QQ.


http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Dunemaul&gn=The+Grass+is+Greener

[TheEschaton]

So I'm off raiding for 2 weeks for finals. All I get is QQ from the casters who tune their specs to get more damage out at the cost of 3% hit which I provide them. Now, I'm gone for two weeks, our raiding boomkin was gkicked, and everyone's like, "WTF man, WHERE ARE YOU!"

I'm sorry, I'd like to pass my finals and actually graduate from law school, kthx. I don't need to be raiding 5 nights a week during finals til 2 am.

-TheE-

[Sean of the Thread]

http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/worldorwarcraft-mmorpg.jpg

[g++]

So I'm off raiding for 2 weeks for finals. All I get is QQ from the casters who tune their specs to get more damage out at the cost of 3% hit which I provide them. Now, I'm gone for two weeks, our raiding boomkin was gkicked, and everyone's like, "WTF man, WHERE ARE YOU!"

I'm sorry, I'd like to pass my finals and actually graduate from law school, kthx. I don't need to be raiding 5 nights a week during finals til 2 am.

-TheE-

You arent going to get a legendary mace with an attitude like that mister. Unless you practice law for 2 hours and use that money to pay chinese people to procure it for you, then you will.

[Some Rogue]

It hurts my poison hit cap too you fucker. Stop studying and play!

[Methais]

So I'm off raiding for 2 weeks for finals. All I get is QQ from the casters who tune their specs to get more damage out at the cost of 3% hit which I provide them. Now, I'm gone for two weeks, our raiding boomkin was gkicked, and everyone's like, "WTF man, WHERE ARE YOU!"

I'm sorry, I'd like to pass my finals and actually graduate from law school, kthx. I don't need to be raiding 5 nights a week during finals til 2 am.

-TheE-

Damn wtf is wrong with you?

Becoming famous on 1 server out of 4783402 on an internet video game > Passing law school.

Get your prioties straight. ASSHOLE!

[TheEschaton]

ionorite?!?

[Parkbandit]

So I'm off raiding for 2 weeks for finals. All I get is QQ from the casters who tune their specs to get more damage out at the cost of 3% hit which I provide them. Now, I'm gone for two weeks, our raiding boomkin was gkicked, and everyone's like, "WTF man, WHERE ARE YOU!"

I'm sorry, I'd like to pass my finals and actually graduate from law school, kthx. I don't need to be raiding 5 nights a week during finals til 2 am.

-TheE-

We had a boomkin? Since when?

[AestheticDeath]

Actually sean your account has been closed for like a month, or more? I had no reason to play on Dunemaul, and didn't feel like paying to transfer someone else's guys to another server. I can sell it back to ya though. Or to someone else.

The instance I was talking about was on an 80 DK in wintergrasp. I was fishing in the middle of a pond, right next to a saronite/titanium spawn point, and when this guy came after me, my water walking dropped, and then I wound up getting beside/under a mini-glacier and became blind until I could get out of there, and then I was almost dead anyways. Only good thing is, I totally owned his ass before he got me doing this. And more then likely I owned him for the same reason, he couldn't see jack shit. But I got the ore damnit!

last week or two I have been trying to swap a 80 Dk tank to a dps, and doing some of the WG raid things to take the castle. So far the dps build sucks, but the tank does alright sometimes. Still wasting gold trying different specs, but so far frost seems to be my best bet. I really miss perma-pets and self heal stuff though.

Main problems are running into more then one alliance guy at a time, or some of the geared up people who have been around forever and know wtf they are doing. In particular three guys so far have whooped my ass so easy it was crazy. 80-90% of the people I fight in Wintergrasp 1vs1 go down though.

And Methais I do use my mouse to turn. What I need though is some sort of auto turn macro, that targets the guy no matter where he is in the 360 degrees around me. So it turns, and hits, in the same button without having to turn myself. Would be nice to be able to click someone with a mouse, and then the macro targets that person every time without re-clicking him, or having to type the name in the macro. Then clears it on death or something. I don't see that happening though.

And I need to be able to put multiple abilities in one macro. I have way too many things to cast to be able to hotlink them all to certain keys. I need super ease of access, which means like keys 1-5, and maybe alt 1-5. 10 macros to do all I need. And then of course I have to memorize them or it's no good. Having the cast times, or rune cool downs, I don't see how it will work without having to hit the same key multiple times, and then sometimes you just don't want the ability that's up at the moment, so you waste time using the wrong ability.

I am still getting used to what abilities are better left out of pvp, even though I normally use them for pve.

I really think I need to start raiding to get some better DPS gear, or PVP, to get some of the uber rewards through there. Looking on wowarmory, it seems most of the better weapons are actually the pvp rewards. And of course the pvp gear seems more geared towards... pvp. Rather than the pve/raiding type gear he has on.

[Keller]

FYI: I was making fun of Sacrileous in whispers and, in guild chat, he asked if anyone knew me.

Of course, Alok said he did and that I was from HoR -- so everyone else should just deny knowing me or face the wrath of a pissed off 280 lb pimpled PhD student.

[Some Rogue]

We had a boomkin? Since when?

Cockstar

[Methais]

And Methais I do use my mouse to turn. What I need though is some sort of auto turn macro, that targets the guy no matter where he is in the 360 degrees around me. So it turns, and hits, in the same button without having to turn myself. Would be nice to be able to click someone with a mouse, and then the macro targets that person every time without re-clicking him, or having to type the name in the macro. Then clears it on death or something. I don't see that happening though.

Nope, none of that is going to happen. You're going to have to do it the old fashioned way. But you might wanna make a macro that just says "/focus", another that says "/target focus" and another that says "/focus clear" which will designate your current target as your focus target, keeping their frame on the screen at all times so you can still watch them (and retarget them easily) while dealing with other people.


And I need to be able to put multiple abilities in one macro. I have way too many things to cast to be able to hotlink them all to certain keys. I need super ease of access, which means like keys 1-5, and maybe alt 1-5. 10 macros to do all I need. And then of course I have to memorize them or it's no good. Having the cast times, or rune cool downs, I don't see how it will work without having to hit the same key multiple times, and then sometimes you just don't want the ability that's up at the moment, so you waste time using the wrong ability.

Just make a /castrandom macro with all your abilities in it and mash one button 24/7 and still pwn, like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIXYMY4dOmI



I really think I need to start raiding to get some better DPS gear,

You might want to learn to play your class better before you start raiding, so you don't become known as that nub that does shitty dps and causes 4732809 wipes. Run heroics first if nothing else, or maybe even non-heroics since you'll have a level advantage to give you room for error if you just wanna get the hang of things better without pissing the rest of your group off.

[/quote]or PVP, to get some of the uber rewards through there. Looking on wowarmory, it seems most of the better weapons are actually the pvp rewards. And of course the pvp gear seems more geared towards... pvp. Rather than the pve/raiding type gear he has on.[/QUOTE]

Same applies here, but mainly since you need 2000+ arena ratings to get the weapons, which most people will never get.

[AnticorRifling]

I changed my warlock's name on Dunemaul to Puddingsock.

[Parkbandit]

I changed my warlock's name on Dunemaul to Puddingsock.

Reported for vulgarity of some sort.

[AestheticDeath]

Sorry, is 'raiding' something besides running 5/10/25 man things? Just a more dedicated version of it I thought.

I obviously plan on pugin through the lower level things first.

[Methais]

Sorry, is 'raiding' something besides running 5/10/25 man things? Just a more dedicated version of it I thought.

I obviously plan on pugin through the lower level things first.

Raids are the 10/25 man instances that have a lockout timer, most of which reset every Tuesday (except for some old stuff like Zul'Gurub and AQ20 which reset every 3 days but those don't count anymore anyway), which basically means you have to run the raid with the same group for that week, since you become saved to that instance until it resets.

5 mans and stuff you can run as much as you want, except heroics which have lockout timers like raids but it's only a 1 day timer.

You can pug raids, but if the group sucks and gets nowhere, you're pretty much out of luck until it resets unless you can form your own raid to clear it after, before someone else that was in the group potentially does.

The raid lockout "feature" is pretty much the reason why you have to schedule your life around WoW if you're going to be a serious business raider.

[Parkbandit]

I'll probably be back.. but for now:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/cancelled.jpg

I have no time to raid... and that was the only thing that really held my interest in the game.

Now I must find a new game besides PS3 - CoDWaW...

[Some Rogue]

You suck.

[Parkbandit]

You suck.

You deal with Little Hitler... I've chosen appeasement.

[Keller]

You deal with Little Hitler... I've chosen appeasement.

Fucking Neville.

[Some Rogue]

Throw up the white flag Frenchie!

[Some Rogue]

Btw, we're up to Yogg-Saron. That fight is insane, literally. :D

[Parkbandit]

Btw, we're up to Yogg-Saron. That fight is insane, literally. :D

Tamral will be happy to give you all the directions you need for a flawless victory. Just send him a PM.

[Some Rogue]

Tamral will be happy to give you all the directions you need for a flawless victory. Just send him a PM.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/VaderscreamsNOOOOOOOOO.jpg

[TheEschaton]

I return to raiding tonight, Nekk, you better be sending me tells on the fights I haven't seen yet.

Actually, that would only be General, really, and whatever we've accomplished on Yogg so far.

-TheE-

[Some Rogue]

I wasn't there for the General fight myself.

For Yogg, phase one is don't touch the green stuff, blast down guardians to 20% or so, move guardian to Sara and blow it up, rinse and repeat until phase 2. Phase 2 he spawns tentacles, casters kill the Crushers and constrictors when they are up and corruptors last. Melee enter the portals, kill stuff, attack the brain, and leave the portal before losing their sanity.

We didn't make it to phase 3 on the first night of attempts heh.

[Tea & Strumpets]

I wasn't there for the General fight myself.

For Yogg, phase one is don't touch the green stuff, blast down guardians to 20% or so, move guardian to Sara and blow it up, rinse and repeat until phase 2. Phase 2 he spawns tentacles, casters kill the Crushers and constrictors when they are up and corruptors last. Melee enter the portals, kill stuff, attack the brain, and leave the portal before losing their sanity.

We didn't make it to phase 3 on the first night of attempts heh.

Whatever oldnforgotten.

[Some Rogue]

Shut up Dippy.

[Sean of the Thread]

Shut up Dippy.

Awww how sweet you guys have pet names for each other.

[Methais]

Sources indicate that last year's propane plant explosion in Toronto was triggered by the defeat of Majordomo Executus, angering his boss tremendously:

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll154/spinarooni226/RagnarosToronto.jpg

[SHAFT]

Looking for some help with some hardened adamantite bars. If I supply the ore could someone smelt some for me? More than happy to tip or do some engineering for ya

nm

[TheEschaton]

We finally downed Yogg last night. 5th Horde guild to do so on the server, 8th overall, I believe.

[AnticorRifling]

Gratz.

[AnticorRifling]

Looking for some help with some hardened adamantite bars. If I supply the ore could someone smelt some for me? More than happy to tip or do some engineering for ya

nm

I can smelt them on Anticor, just mail the mats.

[TheEschaton]

And Nekk got his shoulders, god damn him.

[AnticorRifling]

And Nekk got his shoulders, god damn him.

So you guys do loot by handing it to the worst dps in the hopes they'll get better? Makes sense I guess.

[Some Rogue]

So you guys do loot by handing it to the worst dps in the hopes they'll get better? Makes sense I guess.

Hurrrrrrrr

Go faceroll some more scrub.

[Some Rogue]

And Nekk got his shoulders, god damn him.


You love my tentacles.

[TheEschaton]

If they handed out to the worst dps, I'd have new shoulders. :P

Of course, I spend most of the fight dispelling MCs and Apathy and blood plague. I only get to dps in phase 3, really. Those ret pallies never dispel SHIT.

[AnticorRifling]

Hurrrrrrrr

Go faceroll some more scrub.

Face roll is an art, I'm actually working on rolling right to left to make sure my cheek callouses are even.

[Some Rogue]

Hehe, I logged in after I get back from vacation...see Hitler say he's stepping down as Raid Leader/GM in Guild Chat. Apparently he had more to say but he said it in vent. So basically, Goodbye Grass is Greener.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/simpsons_nelson_haha.jpg

[SHAFT]

I can smelt them on Anticor, just mail the mats.

thanks for the offer. i ended up finding someone to do it

[Parkbandit]

Hehe, I logged in after I get back from vacation...see Hitler say he's stepping down as Raid Leader/GM in Guild Chat. Apparently he had more to say but he said it in vent. So basically, Goodbye Grass is Greener.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/lrenzo2/simpsons_nelson_haha.jpg

Find us a new game!

[TheEschaton]

By the end of the raid, he was leading the raid again cause he can't stand being quiet.

But I know Setti apped to OGC, and I'm pretty sure all his Affliction friends will try and follow.

-TheE-

[Parkbandit]

By the end of the raid, he was leading the raid again cause he can't stand being quiet.

But I know Setti apped to OGC, and I'm pretty sure all his Affliction friends will try and follow.

-TheE-

What caused his meltdown? I actually might be one of the few that likes Sac.. I always thought he was a very capable leader and we got shit done. The thing I disliked about raiding was the time and the push for the really dumb achievements.

[Parkbandit]

Oh, and PS - Find us a new game until the Star Wars MMO comes out.

[Some Rogue]

I've heard Boomsplat and his wife run a guild on another server now. They might be looking to transfer or start over on a server to raid. If that happens, I may just go there.

It looks like Blizz is making it so even 10 man guilds can get decent gear now so I might not even need a hardcore raiding guild anymore.

[TheEschaton]

Magesetti was doing a 10 man Ulduar achievment run, and invited the same people every week. They blew through hardmodes for everything but Vezaxx and Yogg this past week. Sac tried to take it over so he could invite more people, and Setti said he didn't want to, because they had good cohesion in the current group (which Sac was in).

Sac then went on a long ass rant about how "This is my guild, and I have a right to run all guild runs." at which Setti pointed out they weren't using dkp, and it was essentially a pug of friends who all happened to be in the same guild. Sac threw a hissy fit, etc, etc.

He's becoming intolerable. Kovman is thinking of leaving, and if Setti leaves with Sovereignx and Iluminaughty, there goes our top lock, mage, ret pally, and one of our tanks, at which point I think the guild is probably dead.

idk about a new game, I'm taking july off for the bar, and I'm not too sure I'm going back to raiding in August once I move to NYC.

-TheE-

[Some Rogue]

Fucking Hitler...

[Parkbandit]

I've heard Boomsplat and his wife run a guild on another server now. They might be looking to transfer or start over on a server to raid. If that happens, I may just go there.

It looks like Blizz is making it so even 10 man guilds can get decent gear now so I might not even need a hardcore raiding guild anymore.

This might actually get me back in the game.

[Some Rogue]

They're on Farstrider now I think. His wife has my number if they decide to do it.

[TheEschaton]

I wanna believe that you can not be a total asshole and still run a successful guild.

I wanna believe it.

[Some Rogue]

People take the shit way too serious, forget it's a game and I believe the days of WoW being anything resembling a hardcore game are over. I don't exactly mind that at all.

[Parkbandit]

They're on Farstrider now I think. His wife has my number if they decide to do it.

If they do, let me know. I am bored to tears of any games I currently play and would reactivate for something like that.

Of course, that will only work out **IF** I can reactivate my damn accounts. Fucking Blizzard Authenticator!

[Drisco]

Diablo 3.

[Methais]

I wanna believe that you can not be a total asshole and still run a successful guild.

I wanna believe it.

It's possible, just extremely rare. My old raid guild on Blackhand had the most laid back guild leader that never got pissed (or at least didn't show it) about anything, wasn't arrogant at all, and some began to think he was a robot because of it.

[TheEschaton]

So, I talked to some people. Trolieo says he has an open invite from Malevolency, and might take it - that would leave us down another tank. Kovman is feeling skittish, and he mentioned that Outrage needs a warlock - it's getting pretty antsy. It'll be amusing.

-TheE-