Election Watch 2020 - Trump/Pence vs Biden/Harris

[Fortybox]

Stop posting and go fact check. If someone comes to you with citations proving you wrong, then you need to go find something that supercedes their information- from a non-partisan outlet.

And if you can't, you need to accept that you're wrong and move on. Then ask yourself why you're still going to a news outlet that lied to you.

Oh you mean the citation where the article says RCP says that it didn't do it and then ends with this quote:


Former Vice President Joe Biden won the race, according to the Associated Press, Fox News and other media outlets despite the Trump campaign engaging in numerous lawsuits that contest the result.

Please enlighten me where the media gets to call who won?

[Fortybox]

Didn’t the media outlets call the 2016 election, literally the same day or day after the day of the election? Were you up in arms about it then? Were you screaming FAKE NEWS CANT CALL IT!! WAIT FOR ALL THE VOTES AND LEGAL SHIT TO FINISH!! We both know you weren’t. So it’s ok when this happens to the person you voted for, but not ok when it happens for the person you didn’t vote for.

Funny how that works.

And on top of that, Biden himself didn’t claim anything till almost all the MSM declared him the winner, while Trump before the votes were even counted, was declaring himself the winner. That’s more dictatorship shit, than what Biden has ever done.

There wasn't any evidence of massive voter fraud in 2016. Also, 2016 didn't have a pandemic where democrats were able to exploit mail-in votes. Even still, I would have fully supported Clinton's rights to any voting count disputes, especially where margins were tight.

And :lol: at Biden not claiming anything. You don't print backdrops and modify podiums designating the office when there is a major dispute on vote counts and lack of certified results. That's a dictator for you:

https://wpr-public.s3.amazonaws.com/wprorg/styles/resp_orig_custom_user_wide_1x/s3/images/segments/ap20314638484175.jpg?itok=SvNmi1AZ

[Neveragain]

Didn’t the media outlets call the 2016 election, literally the same day or day after the day of the election? Were you up in arms about it then? Were you screaming FAKE NEWS CANT CALL IT!! WAIT FOR ALL THE VOTES AND LEGAL SHIT TO FINISH!! We both know you weren’t. So it’s ok when this happens to the person you voted for, but not ok when it happens for the person you didn’t vote for.

Funny how that works.

And on top of that, Biden himself didn’t claim anything till almost all the MSM declared him the winner, while Trump before the votes were even counted, was declaring himself the winner. That’s more dictatorship shit, than what Biden has ever done.

Democrats are the the recount queens of of American politics. You would be demanding a recount in these state races that are this close just on the grounds of it. You're being just as gay as the nutters.

[Neveragain]

There wasn't any evidence of massive voter fraud in 2016. Also, 2016 didn't have a pandemic where democrats were able to exploit mail-in votes. Even still, I would have fully supported Clinton's rights to any voting count disputes, especially where margins were tight.

And :lol: at Biden not claiming anything. You don't print backdrops and modify podiums designating the office when there is a major dispute on vote counts and lack of certified results. That's a dictator for you:

https://wpr-public.s3.amazonaws.com/wprorg/styles/resp_orig_custom_user_wide_1x/s3/images/segments/ap20314638484175.jpg?itok=SvNmi1AZ

Office of the President Elect........political LARPing.

[Fortybox]

It also now appears that Biden is already having phone calls with foreign leaders about the agenda they are going to pursue come January. You will recall that Gen. Flynn was forced to resign and prosecuted over this.

Not surprised as he basically did the same thing as evidenced by the Hunter Biden laptop case.

[Fortybox]

Office of the President Elect........political LARPing.

I have no dispute with the title/office. I do have dispute over this man proclaiming the title and office when results are disputed. But that is something dictators do.

[Solkern]

There wasn't any evidence of massive voter fraud in 2016. Also, 2016 didn't have a pandemic where democrats were able to exploit mail-in votes. Even still, I would have fully supported Clinton's rights to any voting count disputes, especially where margins were tight.

And :lol: at Biden not claiming anything. You don't print backdrops and modify podiums designating the office when there is a major dispute on vote counts and lack of certified results. That's a dictator for you:

https://wpr-public.s3.amazonaws.com/wprorg/styles/resp_orig_custom_user_wide_1x/s3/images/segments/ap20314638484175.jpg?itok=SvNmi1AZ

And guess what, there isn’t any evidence of massive voter fraud this year. You keep screaming massive voter fraud, yet you’ve failed to show any evidence or proof. But that still doesn’t matter, you are here screaming that the MSM called the election before all the votes were finished, and the rest of the electoral plays out. Yet you weren’t screaming ANY of that in 2016. The reason is quite simple, your candidate won in 2016 and lost in 2020.

Biden only claimed it, AFTER all the MSM including Fox News called the election, not at any moment before.

[Fortybox]

And guess what, there isn’t any evidence of massive voter fraud this year. You keep screaming massive voter fraud, yet you’ve failed to show any evidence or proof. But that still doesn’t matter, you are here screaming that the MSM called the election before all the votes were finished, and the rest of the electoral plays out. Yet you weren’t screaming ANY of that in 2016. The reason is quite simple, your candidate won in 2016 and lost in 2020.

Biden only claimed it, AFTER all the MSM including Fox News called the election, not at any moment before.

That's the whole point of the legal process. It is in dispute. What part of that do you not understand?

I'd make the same argument for Hillary if she contested it as well. I would think you'd want this as resolving this will largely eliminate any cloud of doubt for the next 4 years of Biden's possible Presidency.

[Solkern]

That's the whole point of the legal process. It is in dispute. What part of that do you not understand?

I'd make the same argument for Hillary if she contested it as well. I would think you'd want this as resolving this will largely eliminate any cloud of doubt for the next 4 years of Biden's possible Presidency.

Let me help you. Here are ALL of trumps current lawsuits etc regarding this election.
https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/?amp=true

The vast majority have all ready been thrown out, none of them are about illegal ballots, they are all about the observers not being close enough, to stop counting mail in votes, and votes received after 8 PM on election day should not count even if they were postmarked before the Election Day.

NONE of them are about massive voter fraud, and the majority have already been rejected due to zero evidence.

[Solkern]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-has-come-up-with-frivolous-baseless-claims-says-nevada-ag-aaron-ford-114120527.html

All of Trump’s lawsuits have been thrown out in Nevada. This is going to be the results with pretty much all of his lawsuits in every state.

[Back]

Investigate. Recount. Provide some proof of fraud. Go for it. Lets clean up the system if its corrupt. By all means. Trump does not have to concede. Its not a law. Its just a tradition in this country that there is a willing and peaceful transfer of power out of respect for our fellow Americans. No one HAS to do that.

We're in the middle of a once in a century pandemic where cases and deaths are hitting record highs in a second wave. It would be a good idea to at least get the ball rolling on what to do about that. The mid west states are really getting hit hard right now and need help. America needs to face this issue united.

[Alfster]

It also now appears that Biden is already having phone calls with foreign leaders about the agenda they are going to pursue come January. You will recall that Gen. Flynn was forced to resign and prosecuted over this.

Not surprised as he basically did the same thing as evidenced by the Hunter Biden laptop case.

That's uh not exactly what he's been prosecuted for, but hey - believe what you want. Hah

[~Rocktar~]

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[Parkbandit]

Investigate. Recount. Provide some proof of fraud. Go for it. Lets clean up the system if its corrupt. By all means. Trump does not have to concede. Its not a law. Its just a tradition in this country that there is a willing and peaceful transfer of power out of respect for our fellow Americans. No one HAS to do that.

Jesus. Backlash with an intelligent post.

I have never believed in a God before this... but I can find no other explanation other than a miracle.

[Riltus]

I see. So "90%" of Republicans voting in Kentucky is cause for alarm, but ~83% of registered voters voting in DC and Biden receiving 93% of the vote is perfectly normal?

According to your stats almost 100k registered voters in DC don't have a party affiliation. Surely some of them would have voted for Trump right?

You guys are just giant jokes these days. If it's not fear mongering about the virus only when it's convenient, or trying to restrict as many rights of Americans as possible, then it's projecting like there's no tomorrow.

The giant joke is your numbers. I never mentioned Kentucky. Washington D.C. did NOT have an 83% voter turnout. It was closer to 56.3% and Democrats have a 13.5 : 1 registration advantage. Yes, Biden's vote count is PERFECTLY NORMAL based on historical voting trends.

Recent Republican presidential election results (Washington D.C.)

Year|Name|Percentage
2020|Trump|5.2
2016|Trump|4.09
2012|Romney|7.28
2008|McCain|6.53

Fear mongering about the virus? Maybe you'd like to visit my cousin Mary Beth's gravesite and tell her husband and three children that this is just a fake media story. Or maybe you'd like to send a condolence card to the wife and children of my 35 year friend, Jim. We worked together for more than 15 years. Or maybe you'd like to visit my cousin Marguerite who battled the virus alone, at home, because she worried that if her twin daughters visited they might become infected. She barely survived and is still having major medical complications more than 6 months after becoming ill. Fear mongering? Tell that to the spouses and children of Mary Beth, Marguerite and Jim.

Mark

[Solkern]

Voter fraud confirmed in Pennsylvania.

https://www.wnep.com/amp/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c

[Taernath]

Voter fraud confirmed in Pennsylvania.

https://www.wnep.com/amp/article/news/local/luzerne-county/man-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-luzerne-county/523-7fc4fd2f-9105-47e7-a510-2b5ff176ab2c

One down, 45,335 more to go.

Oh wait, he was a Republican. 45,337 more to go.

Oh wait, he applied for an absentee ballot for his dead mom, and apparently never actually voted. 45,336 more to go.

So in this instance a Republican did it, and it got stopped anyway. Tell me again about this rAmPaNt VoTeR fRaUd and sToLeN eLeCtIoN, Republicans.

[Neveragain]

And guess what, there isn’t any evidence of massive voter fraud this year. You keep screaming massive voter fraud, yet you’ve failed to show any evidence or proof. But that still doesn’t matter, you are here screaming that the MSM called the election before all the votes were finished, and the rest of the electoral plays out. Yet you weren’t screaming ANY of that in 2016. The reason is quite simple, your candidate won in 2016 and lost in 2020.

Biden only claimed it, AFTER all the MSM including Fox News called the election, not at any moment before.

I'm literally not screaming, I am laughing my fucking ass off at the state of American politics....culture. Talk about low hanging fruit.

[Keller]

A Russian asset has literally brought into question the foundation of our Democracy - free and fair elections.

Neveragain: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

[Solkern]

I'm literally not screaming, I am laughing my fucking ass off at the state of American politics....culture. Talk about low hanging fruit.

I wasn’t referring to you, I was referring to Fortybox.

[Methais]

I don't really get why she's upset he's firing people. he's settling grudges.

time4Andraste is upset at everything Trump does no matter what it is because she's an unhinged emotional retard with no sense of reality outside of her little bubble of pretend.

[Fortybox]

Investigate. Recount. Provide some proof of fraud. Go for it. Lets clean up the system if its corrupt. By all means. Trump does not have to concede. Its not a law. Its just a tradition in this country that there is a willing and peaceful transfer of power out of respect for our fellow Americans. No one HAS to do that.

We're in the middle of a once in a century pandemic where cases and deaths are hitting record highs in a second wave. It would be a good idea to at least get the ball rolling on what to do about that. The mid west states are really getting hit hard right now and need help. America needs to face this issue united.

Did someone hack your account? Regardless, 100% agree.

[Fortybox]

Let me help you. Here are ALL of trumps current lawsuits etc regarding this election.
https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/?amp=true

The vast majority have all ready been thrown out, none of them are about illegal ballots, they are all about the observers not being close enough, to stop counting mail in votes, and votes received after 8 PM on election day should not count even if they were postmarked before the Election Day.

NONE of them are about massive voter fraud, and the majority have already been rejected due to zero evidence.

You realize the election was only 7 days ago right? There's the legal process which is also inclusive of the associated strategies counsel would suggest any client to take.

FYI 10 AG's have filed an amicus brief with SCOTUS. At least Back gets it - let the process unfold.

[Solkern]

You realize the election was only 7 days ago right? There's the legal process which is also inclusive of the associated strategies counsel would suggest any client to take.

FYI 10 AG's have filed an amicus brief with SCOTUS. At least Back gets it - let the process unfold.

Yeah let the process unfold, and stop with the bullshit lawsuits that have no merit and no evidence, wasting tax payer dollars on it.

[Methais]

No, Donald Trump got at least 765 trillion votes.

That's 764,999,999,999,997 more points than Tom Brady scored vs. the Saints this week.

[Methais]

Because when it comes to Trump, nothing is ever a coincidence. He may be a raging incompetent, but he's not subtle.

Look, I'm not saying Trump will be successful in the option he's clearly trying to keep on the table, but I'm saying that he's going to try. And that alone is bad.

We're watching a psychopath try to tear down the foundations of our democracy right now and refuse- for the first time in 400 years- to agree to the peaceful transition of power. The closest we've ever had was Bush v Gore- where Gore did call to concede to Bush. He only retracted it later when Florida was counted for both him and Bush in one night, and it was clear how incredibly close things were (like within a few hundred votes).

What we're seeing now has no precedent. Or, rather, it has A TON of precedent- just not in any country you'd ever want to live in.

So yeah, when a guy who holds nothing as sacred is willing to tear this country apart for his own self-gain suddenly decides to replace the head of the military, FBI, and CIA...and then has the DoJ authorize prosecutions against "voter fraud" despite the fact that there is zero evidence of it- then yeah I'm worried.

Look at Fortybox. Look at what Trump has done to him. He's not alone. And the Trump campaign is now organizing rallies all over the country to protest the "election being stolen".

This man is not fucking around. And we'd all be wise to pay very close attention to what's going on here- because this is literally the kind of thing we see in authoritarian countries. This does NOT happen in functional democracies.

Remember when the 2016 election wasn't rigged until Hillary lost though?

https://i.redd.it/w0vbudsbgl641.jpg

I'm not saying this election was or wasn't rigged, but holy fuck get some self-awareness already and stop being such a flaming hypocrite every time you shriek at your keyboard.

[Methais]

It is astounding the way you have let that man and the GOP make you terrified of democracy:

You think protesters are criminals who should be gassed
You think that if more people can vote, it means it's fraud, and
You think the free press criticizing a leader's actions makes them "fake news"

Every critical pillar of democracy is now something you have nothing but disdain for.

It's astounding the way you have let Trump make you terrified of literally everything, starting precisely on 11/8/2016 when you were more scared than you've ever been in your life.


Funny, because the way Pfizer tells it, Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it. But true to style, taking credit for other's people work. Fuck a bunch of narcissistic bastards who think they are the best thing since sliced bread (hey, PB, remember when bread wasn't pre-sliced?).


And Tgo... this is the only way to describe you man. You've gone full crazy ass psycho bitch mode. This should be the only response to you ever again, because you're fucking out there man.

https://i.gifer.com/Rcna.gif

Quoted for when the MSM credits Biden for creating the vaccine all by himself.

[Methais]

I’m not sure if it’s funny or sad, watching the likes of fortybox living in his world of denial, unable to accept the fact, Trump lost. Instead he’s trying to find everything and anything to give him that glimmer of hope That Trump in fact won.

Even PB, SHM, Methais and others are just like, whatever, we lost. Let the Dems have their moment.

I'm just sitting back and waiting while this whole thing plays out in court or whatever is happening with it. I don't know what's going to happen, and there's no point in spending all day on here while everyone shrieks at each other when literally none of us know how this is going to play out.

I haven't really been keeping up all that much, and that's intentional. Since there's literally nothing anyone here can do to affect anything, I'd rather just wait for the results, because everything in the meantime is just noise, and I have cooler shit to do. I also don't really come here for serious discussion either. Mostly just to read and make fun of the extremely retarded.


I think the left is downplaying potential fraud.

I think the right is overstating potential fraud.

I think some level of fraud took place, whether big or small.

I think there's a possibility things could flip, but I'm not exactly banking on it either.

I'm also not going to be "more scared than I've ever been in my life" if/when Biden is official, because I'm not a colossal retarded drama queen like time4fartsniffing, even though I expect Biden to be a disaster overall who isn't going to make anything better than it was before.

[Solkern]

I'm just sitting back and waiting while this whole thing plays out in court or whatever is happening with it. I don't know what's going to happen, and there's no point in spending all day on here while everyone shrieks at each other when literally none of us know how this is going to play out.

I haven't really been keeping up all that much, and that's intentional. Since there's literally nothing anyone here can do to affect anything, I'd rather just wait for the results, because everything in the meantime is just noise, and I have cooler shit to do. I also don't really come here for serious discussion either. Mostly just to read and make fun of the extremely retarded.


I think the left is downplaying potential fraud.

I think the right is overstating potential fraud.

I think some level of fraud took place, whether big or small.

I think there's a possibility things could flip, but I'm not exactly banking on it either.

I'm also not going to be "more scared than I've ever been in my life" if/when Biden is official, because I'm not a colossal retarded drama queen like time4fartsniffing, even though I expect Biden to be a disaster overall who isn't going to make anything better than it was before.

Yeah, I know what you mean, I mentioned it earlier, a few of you who supported Trump were just like whatever, he lost.. the sun is still going to rise tomorrow. Others just can’t seem to accept that.

No one from my memory on here has ever said there wasn’t fraud.. we all know there was fraud... but on the level of wide spread massive voter fraud is just lol.

[Methais]

Office of the President Elect........political LARPing.

Where is the office of the President Elect located? The Round Office?

[Methais]

Investigate. Recount. Provide some proof of fraud. Go for it. Lets clean up the system if its corrupt.

Let's pause and acknowledge that Back said something that made sense.

I'm very proud of you buddy. I'm not being sarcastic.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3otPoS81loriI9sO8o/200.gif

I would think that most democrats would be all for investigations and recounts instead of being so against it...that way if/when it fails to change the results, they can spend the next 4 years rubbing peoples' noses in it.

[Neveragain]

It's astounding the way you have let Trump make you terrified of literally everything, starting precisely on 11/8/2016 when you were more scared then you've ever been in your life.



Quoted for when the MSM credits Biden for creating the vaccine all by himself.

You know Biden/democrats will take credit for it in '22 / '24......if he's still alive.

[Seran]

Yeah, I know what you mean, I mentioned it earlier, a few of you who supported Trump were just like whatever, he lost.. the sun is still going to rise tomorrow. Others just can’t seem to accept that.

No one from my memory on here has ever said there wasn’t fraud.. we all know there was fraud... but on the level of wide spread massive voter fraud is just lol.

Rational thought and the purity of our democracy went out the window in 2016 with the Cheeto President.

[Fortybox]

Yeah let the process unfold, and stop with the bullshit lawsuits that have no merit and no evidence, wasting tax payer dollars on it.

Sorry bruh, but frivolous or not (your opinion) you have to let the process unfold. I know the constitution doesn't really matter to you but most people still believe in it and the protections it offers.

[Fortybox]

Remember when the 2016 election wasn't rigged until Hillary lost though?

https://i.redd.it/w0vbudsbgl641.jpg

I'm not saying this election was or wasn't rigged, but holy fuck get some self-awareness already and stop being such a flaming hypocrite every time you shriek at your keyboard.

This election was rigged by about 40keks.

[Fortybox]

Yeah, I know what you mean, I mentioned it earlier, a few of you who supported Trump were just like whatever, he lost.. the sun is still going to rise tomorrow. Others just can’t seem to accept that.

No one from my memory on here has ever said there wasn’t fraud.. we all know there was fraud... but on the level of wide spread massive voter fraud is just lol.

It's not official yet. That's something you don't seem to understand. I know in your world the MSM gets to call it and Joe gets to stand up with a self-proclaimed podium and backdrop before state certification and the legal process resolves itself. But for those who love the constitution and the protections it offers, the process matters.

[Fortybox]

Where is the office of the President Elect located? The Round Office?

Joe's basement.

[Methais]

Rational thought and the purity of our democracy went out the window in 2016 with the Cheeto President.

Is that why the left spent every single day of the past 4 years having meltdowns, often violent ones?

[Alfster]

Sorry bruh, but frivolous or not (your opinion) you have to let the process unfold. I know the constitution doesn't really matter to you but most people still believe in it and the protections it offers.

Going to be interesting when the new vice president follows the constitution and takes control over the Senate from mcconnell. At least that's the talk. No precedent set yet but it's clearly in there.

Maybe they'll finally push those 10+ election security bills through and force them to vote on them, where this shit could have already been solved.

[Back]

Yep. recount to your heart's content. We will get to see Joe and Kamala win and Trump lose TWICE.

In most states with these close margins those who ask for a recount have to pay for it.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/verify/verify-the-rules-for-recounts-in-the-presidential-election-and-who-pays-for-them/531-ca0e8c32-3754-4569-886c-cecb2a13164b

As was mentioned earlier in this thread Trump is going hard asking for donations to cover this voter fraud investigation.

But read the fine print on his donation site. 50% of donations go to his presidential campaign debt.

https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund


50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s 2020 general election account for general election debt retirement until such debt is retired. 50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s Recount Account. Any amount that exceeds the applicable contribution limit for 2020 general election debt retirement, including any amounts donated to DJTFP after such debt has been retired, will be designated in full toward DJFTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000).

With all the cases getting thrown out, with historic trends in recounts not moving the result not more than a few hundred votes, with Trump needing more than one state's recount to drastically change, the likelyhood of Biden not winning is extremely low.

Don't waste your money on the Trump family of grifters.

[Seran]

It's not official yet. That's something you don't seem to understand. I know in your world the MSM gets to call it and Joe gets to stand up with a self-proclaimed podium and backdrop before state certification and the legal process resolves itself. But for those who love the constitution and the protections it offers, the process matters.

Yeah, let's just go ahead and ignore precedent for from the last seventy years because the orange man feels he can invalidate ballots by wishful thinking alone. I know you, Trump and Putin hope that the country is destabilized by a lengthy fight over legitimate elections results. But the reality is that most of our country, international elections monitors and an increasing number of our allies have accepted President-Elect Biden.

The only ones who run by running out the clock and reducing the effectiveness of the incoming administration by denying a smooth transition is our enemies. Which I presume by your stance that you are a foe as well.

[time4fun]

The turnover at the Pentagon is getting more and more disturbing: (https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns/index.html)


The Trump administration has carried out sweeping changes atop the Defense Department's civilian leadership structure, removing several of its most senior officials and replacing them with perceived loyalists to the President.

The flurry of changes, announced by the Department of Defense in a statement roughly 24 hours after President Donald Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark Esper, have put officials inside the Pentagon on edge and fueled a growing sense of alarm among military and civilian officials, who are concerned about what could come next.

Four senior civilian officials have been fired or have resigned since Monday, including Esper, his chief of staff and the top officials overseeing policy and intelligence. They were replaced by perceived Trump loyalists, including a controversial figure who promoted fringe conspiracy theories and called former President Barack Obama a terrorist.

A senior defense official told CNN late Tuesday that "it appears we are done with the beheadings for now," referring to the wave of ousted civilian leaders, including Esper.




The sources said the effort may be because Esper and his team were pushing back on a premature withdrawal from Afghanistan that would be carried out before the required conditions on the ground were met, and other pending security issues.
"This is scary, it's very unsettling," one defense official told CNN. "These are dictator moves."
Multiple civilian and military officials working inside the Pentagon are raising the question of whether the departure of Esper and other officials will now clear the way for Trump in his final weeks in office to potentially again call for initiatives he wants to pursue that the Pentagon opposes.

One would be again raising the specter of using active duty forces under the Insurrection Act against any future protests. Another potential raised by officials is he would override the military advice he has been given and bring troops home from Afghanistan by Christmas.


I just want to point out here that I'm not the only one who is worried about what's going on here. To be very clear: democratic leaders do NOT replace the military heads in their last 2 months in office. It's incredibly risky for our country- it sends the message that we're in chaos and vulnerable to our enemies, and it's literally what dictators who are trying to stay in power do.

EVERYTHING this man has done and said in the last month has been right out of the authoritarian playbook. If we were watching this happen in another country, there would be no doubt as to what that leader was trying to do.

[Fortybox]

The turnover at the Pentagon is getting more and more disturbing: (https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns/index.html)






I just want to point out here that I'm not the only one who is worried about what's going on here. To be very clear: democratic leaders do NOT replace the military heads in their last 2 months in office. It's incredibly risky for our country- it sends the message that we're in chaos and vulnerable to our enemies, and it's literally what dictators who are trying to stay in power do.

EVERYTHING this man has done and said in the last month has been right out of the authoritarian playbook. If we were watching this happen in another country, there would be no doubt as to what that leader was trying to do.

:lol:

[time4fun]

It's astounding the way you have let Trump make you terrified of literally everything, starting precisely on 11/8/2016 when you were more scared than you've ever been in your life.

Let's be really honest here: you're a small man.

You wade into political discussions to make yourself feel important, but you rarely have anything of substance to add. In the 5+ years I've born witness to your (unintentionally) humorous attempts to be relevant when you're so clearly out of your depth, I've never seen any ability to, or interest in, attempting any sort of analysis that didn't begin and end with your incredibly limited, self-centered, and adolescent existence.

Your lack of concern over an existential issue is no more indicative of the severity of that issue than the lack of concern a 13 year old shows to the world around them.

You are as inconsequential as your half-baked, cowardly opinions. That's a very nice way of saying: you benefit from a democracy you don't actually understand.

And you never will sweetie.

Why don't you stick to lnet. It's a little more your speed.

[caelric]

Hey, time4bhaalisimo: I work for the DoD, and we're not scared right now.

But feel free to hide your head under your covers and piss yourself, you're so scared.

[time4fun]

:lol:

If only you understood math as well you do emojis.

You wouldn't be running around like fool screaming about voter fraud based solely on the words from a pathological liar.

[time4fun]

Hey, time4bhaalisimo: I work for the DoD, and we're not scared right now.

But feel free to hide your head under your covers and piss yourself, you're so scared.

While I'm sure the janitors there are very well respected and valued. I highly doubt you're any version of informed or relevant.

[Fortybox]

If only you understood math as well you do emojis.

You wouldn't be running around like fool screaming about voter fraud based solely on the words from a pathological liar.

Imagine being so dumb that you think the man in the office for 4 years is the problem and the man in the office for over 47 years is the solution.

The math shows several red flags that deserve to be investigated. Sorry sweetie, that is what is going to happen regardless of whether you like it or not.

[Fortybox]

While I'm sure the janitors there are very well respected and valued. I highly doubt you're any version of informed or relevant.

Preserving this quote. It's moments like these that the mask comes off.

[Ashlander]

Preserving this quote. It's moments like these that the mask comes off.

It's moments like those that show why people call her a cunt.

[Bhaalizmo]

It's moments like those that show why people call her a cunt.

Ok ass-lapper.

[Alfster]

Imagine being so dumb that you think the man in the office for 4 years is the problem and the man in the office for over 47 years is the solution.

The math shows several red flags that deserve to be investigated. Sorry sweetie, that is what is going to happen regardless of whether you like it or not.

Sure. When you ignore the obvious variable.

[Tgo01]

While I'm sure the janitors there are very well respected and valued. I highly doubt you're any version of informed or relevant.

time4fun and other piece of shit leftists like her: We care about the working class!! We don't believe in bullying people!!111!!
Also time4fun and other piece of shit leftists like her: LOL! You're probably just a lowly janitor who isn't relevant at all!! LOL LOL LOL! Remember to vote blue no matter who! We care about people!

[Alashir]

time4fun and other piece of shit leftists like her: We care about the working class!! We don't believe in bullying people!!111!!
Also time4fun and other piece of shit leftists like her: LOL! You're probably just a lowly janitor who isn't relevant at all!! LOL LOL LOL! Remember to vote blue no matter who! We care about people!

Hey duder! Good to see you back on the forums. You took some time off when Biden was elected and your reputation isn't exactly one of stability so I was a little worried. I see the normal hate speech rhetoric has resumed so I'm assuming we're chuggin along again! WB

[Tgo01]

Hey duder! Good to see you back on the forums. You took some time off when Biden was elected and your reputation isn't exactly one of stability so I was a little worried. I see the normal hate speech rhetoric has resumed so I'm assuming we're chuggin along again! WB

See what I mean? You people can't help yourselves. I'm like the brightest bulb in the world and y'all are just shit eating gnats who can't help but fly towards me. It's okay.

I do find leftists amusing when you call out their fellow leftists. "How dare you call out my fellow leftist for thinking it's degrading to call people a janitor! Why you so full of hate?"

[time4fun]

It's moments like those that show why people call her a cunt.

Oh when I say harsh things to some of the worst people on this forum?

I'm comfortable with that.

[Tgo01]

Oh when I say harsh things to some of the worst people on this forum?

I'm comfortable with that.

Proof right here that time4fun, all of y'alls favorite far leftists, thinking it's "harsh" to call someone a janitor.

Keep being a piece of shit, you piece of shit. All we are missing now is BriarFox coming along to refer to himself as a "liberal elite" again and say it's perfectly acceptable to degrade people by referring them as a janitor just as long as Democrats win elections by any means necessary.

[caelric]

While I'm sure the janitors there are very well respected and valued. I highly doubt you're any version of informed or relevant.

That's cute that you think that. I'd link my LinkedIn here, but I'm not going to dox myself for a panty pisser like you. Probably not hard to find, though.

[BriarFox]

I am really enjoying seeing all these Republican claims of fraud fall apart at the seams: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html

[time4fun]

That's cute that you think that. I'd link my LinkedIn here, but I'm not going to dox myself for a panty pisser like you. Probably not hard to find, though.

Awww how adorable! He knows how to use LinkedIn!

Well color me impressed!

[caelric]

Awww how adorable! He knows how to use LinkedIn!

Well color me impressed!

Imagine how much of a loser you need to be to get fired from being a GS GM. No, wait, you don't have to imagine. You know, from firsthand experience.

[Back]

It is impossible to change the results of this election if you can't change Pennsylvania.


Biden doesn’t need ballots that arrived after Election Day to win Pennsylvania

By Colby Itkowitz

Pennsylvania’s top elections official, Kathy Boockvar, said about 10,000 mail-in ballots were received in counties across the state after polls closed on Election Day, taking the air out of lawsuit brought by state Republicans seeking to discard ballots received between 8 p.m. on Nov. 3 and 6 p.m. on Nov. 5.

Biden is leading Trump in Pennsylvania by more than 45,000 votes, meaning even if the Republicans’ legal challenge was successful and those late-arriving ballots were tossed, Biden would still win the state.

Pennsylvania counties are still working through about 94,000 provisional ballots given to people who voted in person on Election Day but required extra verification.

“Millions of Pennsylvanians voted and made their voices heard in a free, fair and open election last week. I am so proud of the election officials and poll workers who worked tirelessly, amid a pandemic, so voters could decide this election,” Secretary of the Commonwealth Boockvar said in a statement.

Republicans have multiple legal challenges going in Pennsylvania. They petitioned the U.S. Supreme Court to step in and stop the counting of late-arriving ballots and to ensure they were being segregated from other ballots.

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., who received the petition because he is the justice responsible for that region, did not order the counting be stopped but did tell the counties they had to comply with state guidance to keep the late ballots separate — which they were already doing.

[Tgo01]

I am really enjoying seeing all these Republican claims of fraud fall apart at the seams: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html

Anonymous sources say he recanted yet the guy himself said he didn’t recant.

Headline “Postal worker recants story.”

Even satire news sites aren’t this obvious.

[Seran]

The turnover at the Pentagon is getting more and more disturbing: (https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns/index.html)






I just want to point out here that I'm not the only one who is worried about what's going on here. To be very clear: democratic leaders do NOT replace the military heads in their last 2 months in office. It's incredibly risky for our country- it sends the message that we're in chaos and vulnerable to our enemies, and it's literally what dictators who are trying to stay in power do.

EVERYTHING this man has done and said in the last month has been right out of the authoritarian playbook. If we were watching this happen in another country, there would be no doubt as to what that leader was trying to do.

It's pretty obvious that the man's a Russian plant trying to destabilize the nation as much as he can. Firing respected generals, ambassadors with name recognition and decades of foreign policy experience, accelerating the accrual of debt to make our country less solvent. And now, trying to destroy our elections process, the one true freedom which defines our Democracy. This man is the Russian equivalent of the fictional Manchurian Candidate

[drauz]

time4fun and other piece of shit leftists like her: We care about the working class!! We don't believe in bullying people!!111!!
Also time4fun and other piece of shit leftists like her: LOL! You're probably just a lowly janitor who isn't relevant at all!! LOL LOL LOL! Remember to vote blue no matter who! We care about people!

This is all Tgo01 can ever do:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWbmiqIWAAE6Hs0.jpg

[Blazar]

Anonymous sources say he recanted yet the guy himself said he didn’t recant.

Headline “Postal worker recants story.”

Even satire news sites aren’t this obvious.

Lol, okay Sparky.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/70577dc32eae40cb875bf43c5753e639/tenor.gif?itemid=5137919

[Alashir]

See what I mean? You people can't help yourselves. I'm like the brightest bulb in the world and y'all are just shit eating gnats who can't help but fly towards me. It's okay.

I do find leftists amusing when you call out their fellow leftists. "How dare you call out my fellow leftist for thinking it's degrading to call people a janitor! Why you so full of hate?"

Lol, I literally posted that I hope you're doing okay when you were gone. Your baseline is posting racist/homophobic/bigoted speech and even though I disagree with that and would argue that type of thinking will lead us into another dark age (where instead of playing gsiv we're fucking living it), but I don't wish you any ill will as a fellow human being. Your posting behavior is the definition of labile so when you go radio silent for days I do worry believe it or not.

[Tgo01]

This is all Tgo01 can ever do:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWbmiqIWAAE6Hs0.jpg

I don't think you know what a strawman is.

[Parkbandit]

Let's be really honest here: you're a small man.

You wade into political discussions to make yourself feel important, but you rarely have anything of substance to add. In the 5+ years I've born witness to your (unintentionally) humorous attempts to be relevant when you're so clearly out of your depth, I've never seen any ability to, or interest in, attempting any sort of analysis that didn't begin and end with your incredibly limited, self-centered, and adolescent existence.

Your lack of concern over an existential issue is no more indicative of the severity of that issue than the lack of concern a 13 year old shows to the world around them.

You are as inconsequential as your half-baked, cowardly opinions. That's a very nice way of saying: you benefit from a democracy you don't actually understand.

And you never will sweetie.

Why don't you stick to lnet. It's a little more your speed.

Let's be really honest here: you're a very large woman.

You wade into political discussions to make yourself feel important, but you rarely have anything of intelligence to add. In the 15+ years I've born witness to your "Google-Fu" attempts to be relevant when you're so clearly out of your depth. I've never seen any ability to, or interest in, attempting any sort of intelligence that didn't begin and end with your incredibly limited, lack of self awareness, and imagined credentials.

Your over-dramatization over Every Single Thing President Trump does is more indicative of the emotional instability of someone who obviously should be professionally treated with sessions and medication.

You are as inconsequential as your half-baked, imaginary life. That's a very nice way of saying: you are a big fat lying sack of shit.

And you never will never own up to the truth, sweetie.

Why don't you stick to Gemstone IV. It's a little more your speed and you can pretend to be anything you want, knowing your life is something to be forgotten.

[Parkbandit]

Awww how adorable! He knows how to use LinkedIn!

Well color me impressed!

I'm sure it's not hard to impress a MCAD dropout who pretends she got a PhD from Stanford.

[drauz]

I don't think you know what a strawman is.

From your reply to t4f I don't think you have reading comprehension.

[Methais]

Let's be really honest here: you're a small man.

You wade into political discussions to make yourself feel important, but you rarely have anything of substance to add. In the 5+ years I've born witness to your (unintentionally) humorous attempts to be relevant when you're so clearly out of your depth, I've never seen any ability to, or interest in, attempting any sort of analysis that didn't begin and end with your incredibly limited, self-centered, and adolescent existence.

Your lack of concern over an existential issue is no more indicative of the severity of that issue than the lack of concern a 13 year old shows to the world around them.

You are as inconsequential as your half-baked, cowardly opinions. That's a very nice way of saying: you benefit from a democracy you don't actually understand.

And you never will sweetie.

Why don't you stick to lnet. It's a little more your speed.

https://i.imgur.com/sL6j4ez.gif

[Tgo01]

From your reply to t4f I don't think you have reading comprehension.

k

[Methais]

That's cute that you think that. I'd link my LinkedIn here, but I'm not going to dox myself for a panty pisser like you. Probably not hard to find, though.

Do you have Gemstone on your LinkedIn? If not, you should.

[Methais]

and would argue that type of thinking will lead us into another dark age (where instead of playing gsiv we're fucking living it),

What's wrong with this? Imagine getting to be a wizard.


but I don't wish you any ill will as a fellow human being.

If we're living GS he doesn't have to be a human anymore.





Let's be really honest here: you're a very large woman.

You wade into political discussions to make yourself feel important, but you rarely have anything of intelligence to add. In the 15+ years I've born witness to your "Google-Fu" attempts to be relevant when you're so clearly out of your depth. I've never seen any ability to, or interest in, attempting any sort of intelligence that didn't begin and end with your incredibly limited, lack of self awareness, and imagined credentials.

Your over-dramatization over Every Single Thing President Trump does is more indicative of the emotional instability of someone who obviously should be professionally treated with sessions and medication.

You are as inconsequential as your half-baked, imaginary life. That's a very nice way of saying: you are a big fat lying sack of shit.

And you never will never own up to the truth, sweetie.

Why don't you stick to Gemstone IV. It's a little more your speed and you can pretend to be anything you want, knowing your life is something to be forgotten.

This is correct.

[Fortybox]

Do you have Gemstone on your LinkedIn? If not, you should.

Attention seeking|Narcissistic|Condescending|Multi-gendered|Confused|26,537 PhDs|Janitor hating, blunt weapon obsessed, stuttering Paladin with 10m xp seeking approval from an anonymous forum on a 35 year old text-based game.

[Ashlander]

Ok ass-lapper.

I'm curious if I'm a "henchman" because I agree with other people that she's a cunt due to her actions then what does that make you for defending her just because she has a point of view close to your own?

[Bhaalizmo]

I'm curious if I'm a "henchman" because I agree with other people that she's a cunt due to her actions then what does that make you for defending her just because she has a point of view close to your own?

You're a henchman because when other people on this forum are attacking someone you often pile on. You don't initiate, but you participate, like the little guy following the bully around the school yard. Own it, and stop trying to over think it, you'll sprain something.

[time4fun]

You do know that the news media does not anoint the President, right? How long did it take for Gore Bush to be decided? The media didn't call it then, so why are they in such a rush now, OH, that's right, because they are corrupt, willing accomplices to this fraud parade.

You really are nothing more than a walking mass of conspiracy theories and disinformation.

The media actually DID call it for Gore AND Bush- in one night. Which is what prompted Gore to rescind his concession.

As usual, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[time4fun]

I'm curious if I'm a "henchman" because I agree with other people that she's a cunt due to her actions then what does that make you for defending her just because she has a point of view close to your own?

I think it's the part where you hop into these threads and never have anything of substance to offer.

It's like you're playing the part of the world's saddest groupie.

[beldannon5]

is this thread still going? I thought it was all over? Wait it isn't? But my sales

[time4fun]

is this thread still going? I thought it was all over? Wait it isn't? But my sales

Nope- your favorite authoritarian wannabe is busy replacing the civilian military leadership, inciting violence, spreading misinformation, and encouraging people to protest the "stolen vote" despite zero evidence of any stolen vote in hopes of overturning a legitimate democratic election.

Presumably because he's trying to protect us from "socialism" and "marxism" through the tried and true strategy of fascism.

[Tgo01]

I think it's the part where you hop into these threads and never have anything of substance to offer.

It's like you're playing the part of the world's saddest groupie.

The lack of self awareness is off the charts.

[Solkern]

It's not official yet. That's something you don't seem to understand. I know in your world the MSM gets to call it and Joe gets to stand up with a self-proclaimed podium and backdrop before state certification and the legal process resolves itself. But for those who love the constitution and the protections it offers, the process matters.

That’s what you still don’t get. Here you are screaming it’s not official yet, the MSM doesn’t get to call it. You weren’t screaming that 4 years ago when the MSM called it, before the legal recount happened and the state certification happened.

That’s you being a hypocrite. It doesn’t matter if it was close or not. You want something? Be consistent about it.
Your guy wins? It’s ok, the other guy wins, IT IS BAD!

[Tgo01]

That’s what you still don’t get. Here you are screaming it’s not official yet, the MSM doesn’t get to call it. You weren’t screaming that 4 years ago when the MSM called it, before the legal recount happened and the state certification happened.

That’s you being a hypocrite. It doesn’t matter if it was close or not. You want something? Be consistent about it.
Your guy wins? It’s ok, the other guy wins, IT IS BAD!

Clinton conceded a few hours after the closing of the polls because she knew she was a loser and there was no way to contest the results other than screaming "BUT RUSSIA!"

But here we have legal challenges under way and recounts being called for that could very easily make Trump the winner if these lawsuits and recounts are successful.

The media doesn't get to declare Biden "president elect" simply because they want to. That's you being a sheep as per usual because you've been a sheep your entire life and you don't know how to be anything but a sheep.

Actual photo of the PC leftists at their last meet up:

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/D9A65ADE-B965-496C-8B2064EA7807DBBE.jpg

Solkern is in the back, being the sheep in a group of sheep.

[Solkern]

Clinton conceded a few hours after the closing of the polls because she knew she was a loser and there was no way to contest the results other than screaming "BUT RUSSIA!"

But here we have legal challenges under way and recounts being called for that could very easily make Trump the winner if these lawsuits and recounts are successful.

The media doesn't get to declare Biden "president elect" simply because they want to. That's you being a sheep as per usual because you've been a sheep your entire life and you don't know how to be anything but a sheep.

Actual photo of the PC leftists at their last meet up:

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/cache/file/D9A65ADE-B965-496C-8B2064EA7807DBBE.jpg

Solkern is in the back, being the sheep in a group of sheep.

Aww look at Tgo, grasping at straws that There is a chance Trump wins a second term. So cute.
Sorry to burst your bubble.. recounts don’t change tens of thousands of votes, at most a couple hundred. But you go gurl! Keep that dream alive!

[Tgo01]

Aww look at Tgo, grasping at straws that There is a chance Trump wins a second term. So cute.
Sorry to burst your bubble.. recounts don’t change tens of thousands of votes, at most a couple hundred. But you go gurl! Keep that dream alive!

Deflect like the good little sheep leftist that you are. Doesn't change the fact that the media doesn't get to declare Biden president elect simply because they want to. They referred to Trump as president elect because Hillary conceded because she's a loser. Hell I'm just assuming the media referred to Trump as president elect after the election, wouldn't surprise me one bit if they waited until it was official to start referring to him as such.

[Ardwen]

Exactly why aren't the people screaming the Presidential race isn't final yet saying the same thing about all the house and senate races that are also not final yet, the only one calling literally any race in the nation is the US is the media. Yet I don't see a single peep from anyone about that. Hell in Georgia the GOP Senatorial and House candidates are contesting the presidential ballots were bad on ballots they themselves were voted on, they are literally decrying the legitimacy of their own elections. McConnell already held an event welcoming New GOP Senators, not one of who has actually officially won a race, the double standard being shown here is ridiculous, but hey why use logic right.

[Solkern]

Exactly why aren't the people screaming the Presidential race isn't final yet saying the same thing about all the house and senate races that are also not final yet, the only one calling literally any race in the nation is the US is the media. Yet I don't see a single peep from anyone about that. Hell in Georgia the GOP Senatorial and House candidates are contesting the presidential ballots were bad on ballots they themselves were voted on, they are literally decrying the legitimacy of their own elections. McConnell already held an event welcoming New GOP Senators, not one of who has actually officially won a race, the double standard being shown here is ridiculous, but hey why use logic right.

It is only ok to call any election as long as it’s your party that wins.

[Tgo01]

McConnell already held an event welcoming New GOP Senators, not one of who has actually officially won a race

Show me these states where Republicans won a Senate race where the election was even remotely close and the opponent hasn't conceded yet.

Shit the Democrat in Wyoming received less than 27% of the vote. Maybe there's a chance!

You people wouldn't know nuance if it bit you on the ass.

All of this is rather pointless anyways. Like seriously what even is your point? Because someone sees the incumbent in Alabama having like 30% of the vote and are saying the Republican is the winner means I or anyone else has to give a single shit about that in regards to the media telling everyone Biden has already won so you can't even question it? I'm surprised time4fun, being such an expert in dictatorships and all, isn't crying foul at media and politicians telling us we have to accept the election results before they are even finalized, since that's exactly what they do in dictatorships.

Just another example of the left projecting yet again. Like good little sheep.

[Solkern]

Show me these states where Republicans won a Senate race where the election was even remotely close and the opponent hasn't conceded yet.

Shit the Democrat in Wyoming received less than 27% of the vote. Maybe there's a chance!

You people wouldn't know nuance if it bit you on the ass.


Doesn’t matter if it’s close? what is close for you? Did the states certify the results yet? No, they haven’t. Oh, I get it, close is now just a matter of your opinion right?

The states didn’t certify the winner yet, so they shouldn’t be doing anything, according to your logic

[Tgo01]

Doesn’t matter if it’s close? what is close for you? Did the states certify the results yet? No, they haven’t. Oh, I get it, close is now just a matter of your opinion right?

The states didn’t certify the winner yet, so they shouldn’t be doing anything, according to your logic

Okay fine. The Republican in Wyoming hasn't officially won yet with over 70% of the vote and 97% of the votes counted. This is like the dumbest tangent I have seen on the internet in quite a while. Like quite literally. I feel like every day on the PC I say "This is the dumbest *insert thing here* I have ever seen" and it's always true because you far leftists are just another breed altogether. Y'all are sniffing each other's butts so hard that you actually think you're saying something smart.

I'm also just assuming the Democrat in Wyoming hasn't conceded yet for some strange reason, because if she has then this entire "point" you think you're making is entirely moot.

[Solkern]

Okay fine. The Republican in Wyoming hasn't officially won yet with over 70% of the vote and 97% of the votes counted. This is like the dumbest tangent I have seen on the internet in quite a while. Like quite literally. I feel like every day on the PC I say "This is the dumbest *insert thing here* I have ever seen" and it's always true because you far leftists are just another breed altogether. Y'all are sniffing each other's butts so hard that you actually think you're saying something smart.

I'm also just assuming the Democrat in Wyoming hasn't conceded yet for some strange reason, because if she has then this entire "point" you think you're making is entirely moot.


Answer my simple question Tgo, has ANY state certified any of the results yet?

If not, than the Republicans have zero right to declare any victories, according to you.

But for you that doesn’t matter, The MSM declared these victories for the republicans, and you are Ok with that! no problem for you! But if the Dems do it, the world is ending!!

[Tgo01]

Answer my simple question Tgo, has ANY state certified any of the results yet?

If not, than the Republicans have zero right to declare any victories, according to you.

Fine. Nothing is finalized yet then. Happy now? Jesus Christ. Like I said in the post you're replying to this is the dumbest tangent I have seen on the internet in quite a while, most likely in my entire life.

Normal people: The media doesn't get to decide who won an election.
Crazy people such as Solkern: BUT THEY ARE CALLING RACES FOR REPUBLICANS AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT!!111!!1
Normal people: Okay fine, technically those races haven't been decided yet either.
Crazy people such as Solkern: BUT THEY ARE CALLING THOSE RACES AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT!!11!!!!!111!!!
Normal people: ...

[Solkern]

Fine. Nothing is finalized yet then. Happy now? Jesus Christ. Like I said in the post you're replying to this is the dumbest tangent I have seen on the internet in quite a while, most likely in my entire life.

Normal people: The media doesn't get to decide who won an election.
Crazy people such as Solkern: BUT THEY ARE CALLING RACES FOR REPUBLICANS AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT!!111!!1
Normal people: Okay fine, technically those races haven't been decided yet either.
Crazy people such as Solkern: BUT THEY ARE CALLING THOSE RACES AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT!!11!!!!!111!!!
Normal people: ...

Calm down cupcake, step away from the computer and take some deep breaths. It’s going to be ok.

[Tgo01]

I am really enjoying seeing all these Republican claims of fraud fall apart at the seams: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html

Well this is embarrassing:

Post Office Whistleblower to Washington Post: I Did Not Recant My Statement About Ballot Tampering (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/11/10/post_office_whistleblower_to_washington_post_i_did _not_recant_my_statement_about_ballot_tampering.ht ml)


Richard Hopkins, a postal employee who says he blew the whistle on ballot tampering responded to a "Washington Post" article that said his story is "fabricated." The paper also said the postal worker recanted his allegations. Hopkins said he does not recant his statement and called on the Post to apologize.

I mean it would be embarrassing for a normal person, but the reason so many narcissists, mentally ill, and criminals rush to the Democrat party is because being a Democrat means never having to fess up to being wrong. It means you can sit there and spread all of the false information you want and when proven wrong you merely shrug your shoulders and wait by your TV for the talking heads over at MSNBC and CNN to give you the next batch of bullshit to spew out of your disgusting mouth.

All we need now are the usual suspects of the far left mongoloid brigade to come along and tell me to calm down and relax, because if there is one thing far leftists are good for (you know other than cheating, lying, and projecting), it's rushing to the aid of their far leftists brethren when they have been shown to be completely wrong and full of shit.

[drauz]

Well this is embarrassing:

Post Office Whistleblower to Washington Post: I Did Not Recant My Statement About Ballot Tampering (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/11/10/post_office_whistleblower_to_washington_post_i_did _not_recant_my_statement_about_ballot_tampering.ht ml)



I mean it would be embarrassing for a normal person, but the reason so many narcissists, mentally ill, and criminals rush to the Democrat party is because being a Democrat means never having to fess up to being wrong. It means you can sit there and spread all of the false information you want and when proven wrong you merely shrug your shoulders and wait by your TV for the talking heads over at MSNBC and CNN to give you the next batch of bullshit to spew out of your disgusting mouth.

All we need now are the usual suspects of the far left mongoloid brigade to come along and tell me to calm down and relax, because if there is one thing far leftists are good for (you know other than cheating, lying, and projecting), it's rushing to the aid of their far leftists brethren when they have been shown to be completely wrong and full of shit.

Never stop projecting.

[Tgo01]

All we need now are the usual suspects of the far left mongoloid brigade to come along and tell me to calm down and relax, because if there is one thing far leftists are good for (you know other than cheating, lying, and projecting), it's rushing to the aid of their far leftists brethren when they have been shown to be completely wrong and full of shit.


Never stop projecting.

Right on time.

[BriarFox]

Well this is embarrassing:

Post Office Whistleblower to Washington Post: I Did Not Recant My Statement About Ballot Tampering (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/11/10/post_office_whistleblower_to_washington_post_i_did _not_recant_my_statement_about_ballot_tampering.ht ml)



I mean it would be embarrassing for a normal person, but the reason so many narcissists, mentally ill, and criminals rush to the Democrat party is because being a Democrat means never having to fess up to being wrong. It means you can sit there and spread all of the false information you want and when proven wrong you merely shrug your shoulders and wait by your TV for the talking heads over at MSNBC and CNN to give you the next batch of bullshit to spew out of your disgusting mouth.

All we need now are the usual suspects of the far left mongoloid brigade to come along and tell me to calm down and relax, because if there is one thing far leftists are good for (you know other than cheating, lying, and projecting), it's rushing to the aid of their far leftists brethren when they have been shown to be completely wrong and full of shit.

That’s a pretty desperate leap, don’t you think? “But the criminal says he didn’t!” Well, then there must not be a problem! You need to take twelve steps back and breathe.

[drauz]

Right on time.

Except I'm not coming to anyone's aid, USPS investigators told the House Oversight Committee, supposedly, that the person recanted. I don't think it's wrong for the press to publish based on a statement from the government when they have no reason to doubt its authenticity.

Two sides with opposing truths, we'll know whos lying soon enough. No need to get your panties in a twist just yet.

Even your beloved Fox news made the same claim, funny how it's just the liberal media....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-postal-worker-ballot-tampering-claims-questioned

[Tsk Tsk]

Well this is embarrassing:

Post Office Whistleblower to Washington Post: I Did Not Recant My Statement About Ballot Tampering (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/11/10/post_office_whistleblower_to_washington_post_i_did _not_recant_my_statement_about_ballot_tampering.ht ml)



I mean it would be embarrassing for a normal person, but the reason so many narcissists, mentally ill, and criminals rush to the Democrat party is because being a Democrat means never having to fess up to being wrong. It means you can sit there and spread all of the false information you want and when proven wrong you merely shrug your shoulders and wait by your TV for the talking heads over at MSNBC and CNN to give you the next batch of bullshit to spew out of your disgusting mouth.

All we need now are the usual suspects of the far left mongoloid brigade to come along and tell me to calm down and relax, because if there is one thing far leftists are good for (you know other than cheating, lying, and projecting), it's rushing to the aid of their far leftists brethren when they have been shown to be completely wrong and full of shit.

So, under oath, he recanted. Then comes out to say he never recanted (on the video) and then told people he did but it was because he was scared and coerced. Then the minute he goes home he's befuddled on how the WP could post an article saying he recanted. He says his "big reveal" will be today so I guess we'll see. I'd be pretty hesitant to put too much faith in this guy personally.

[Solkern]

So, under oath, he recanted. Then comes out to say he never recanted (on the video) and then told people he did but it was because he was scared and coerced. Then the minute he goes home he's befuddled on how the WP could post an article saying he recanted. He says his "big reveal" will be today so I guess we'll see. I'd be pretty hesitant to put too much faith in this guy personally.

Looks like a giant publicity stunt by the guy. “big reveal”.

[Gelston]

Show me these states where Republicans won a Senate race where the election was even remotely close and the opponent hasn't conceded yet.

Shit the Democrat in Wyoming received less than 27% of the vote. Maybe there's a chance!

You people wouldn't know nuance if it bit you on the ass.

All of this is rather pointless anyways. Like seriously what even is your point? Because someone sees the incumbent in Alabama having like 30% of the vote and are saying the Republican is the winner means I or anyone else has to give a single shit about that in regards to the media telling everyone Biden has already won so you can't even question it? I'm surprised time4fun, being such an expert in dictatorships and all, isn't crying foul at media and politicians telling us we have to accept the election results before they are even finalized, since that's exactly what they do in dictatorships.

Just another example of the left projecting yet again. Like good little sheep.

The Senate has actually done a great job distancing themselves from Trump over the last 4 years. Not to mention, the prime reason Trump lost is because he wouldn't stop saying stupid shit.

[Fortybox]

That’s what you still don’t get. Here you are screaming it’s not official yet, the MSM doesn’t get to call it. You weren’t screaming that 4 years ago when the MSM called it, before the legal recount happened and the state certification happened.

That’s you being a hypocrite. It doesn’t matter if it was close or not. You want something? Be consistent about it.
Your guy wins? It’s ok, the other guy wins, IT IS BAD!

There wasn't a massive fraud dispute nor an unprecedented pandemic. You are comparing apples and oranges.

You're veering dangerously close to time4fun's "expert" logic. Don't go there, you may never return.

[Solkern]

There wasn't a massive fraud dispute nor an underrepresented pandemic. You are comparing apples and oranges.

You're veering dangerously close to time4fun's "expert" logic. Don't go there, you may never return.

Those points you’ve made, frankly don’t really matter now, do they? The simple fact is. Zero results have been certified this year, so technically no one has won anything. We just have projections.

Just like in 2016, at this point, we only had projections as well, but you had no issue going along with the MSM, screaming Trump won, stop crying snowflakes! That’s you being a hypocrite.
This year it matters to you, cause your guy lost, in 2016 it didn’t matter to you, because your guy won.

You want to bring up Hillary conceding? That doesn’t matter either, it’s not a law that they have to concede, Hillary just accepted defeat. That doesn’t change the process of certifying the results. The votes when she conceded, didnt get certified at that point because she conceded, now did they? The process still had to play out.

You are trying to come up reasons/excuses and validate your own snowflake mentality right now, yet your past actions just throw that in that shitter.

[Solkern]

So which one is it Fortybox?

1. Are you the guy that supported the MSM in 2016 when they projected Trump the winner?
2. Are you the guy that doesn’t support the MSM in 2020 when they projected Biden the winner?

Because your flip flopping is quite confusing. The only real change is 1. Your guy won. 2. Your guy lost.

[Fortybox]

Those points you’ve made, frankly don’t really matter now, do they? The simple fact is. Zero results have been certified this year, so technically no one has won anything. We just have projections.

Just like in 2016, at this point, we only had projections as well, but you had no issue going along with the MSM, screaming Trump won, stop crying snowflakes! That’s you being a hypocrite.
This year it matters to you, cause your guy lost, in 2016 it didn’t matter to you, because your guy won.

You want to bring up Hillary conceding? That doesn’t matter either, it’s not a law that they have to concede, Hillary just accepted defeat. That doesn’t change the process of certifying the results. The votes when she conceded, didnt get certified at that point because she conceded, now did they? The process still had to play out.

You are trying to come up reasons/excuses and validate your own snowflake mentality right now, yet your past actions just throw that in that shitter.

Wrong. Please take a math class sweetie. You should also be aware that your strawman argument has no relevance to the 2016 election, especially given the magnitude of events in 2020.

[Alfster]

Wrong. Please take a math class sweetie. You should also be aware that your strawman argument has no relevance to the 2016 election, especially given the magnitude of events in 2020.

Hey guys 2020 is wild, can't compare to previous elections ...

Also complaining the data doesn't make sense due to the 2020 issues. Haha.

[Solkern]

Hey guys 2020 is wild, can't compare to previous elections ...

Also complaining the data doesn't make sense due to the 2020 issues. Haha.

Damn, you beat me to it.

Did fortybox complain about widespread voter fraud in 2016? I bet you he didn’t. But because his guy lost, now all of a sudden massive voter fraud! It’s quite cute.

[Fortybox]

So which one is it Fortybox?

1. Are you the guy that supported the MSM in 2016 when they projected Trump the winner?
2. Are you the guy that doesn’t support the MSM in 2020 when they projected Biden the winner?

Because your flip flopping is quite confusing. The only real change is 1. Your guy won. 2. Your guy lost.

Addressed in my previous post. Your failure to see that 2020 is a year for the history books (even outside of the political spectrum) just shows how oblivious you are. It's an irrelevant comparison. But you know this.

[Solkern]

Addressed in my previous post. Your failure to see that 2020 is a year for the history books (even outside of the political spectrum) just shows how oblivious you are. It's an irrelevant comparison. But you know this.

Of course it is. Way to avoid answering the question so you don’t admit that you only flip flop to support your guy.
Sheep on man, sheep on.

[Fortybox]

Hey guys 2020 is wild, can't compare to previous elections ...

Also complaining the data doesn't make sense due to the 2020 issues. Haha.

When the major contesting point is mail-in ballots, which has seen a massive increase this year, and will likely never hit those numbers again (unless some other pandemic or event requires such), is an irrelevant comparison to 2016 where no such anomalies of this magnitude occurred.

[Solkern]

When the major contesting point is mail-in ballots, which has seen a massive increase this year, and will likely never hit those numbers again (unless some other pandemic or event requires such), is an irrelevant comparison to 2016 where no such anomalies of this magnitude occurred.

So here you are, comparing mail-in voting to previous elections, but at the same time, complaining you can’t compare this election to previous elections! That’s just hilarious.

[Fortybox]

Of course it is. Way to avoid answering the question so you don’t admit that you only flip flop to support your guy.
Sheep on man, sheep on.

I did address your question. It's an irrelevant comparison. Bifurcating the answers is also disingenuous. But you know that.

[Solkern]

I did address your question. It's an irrelevant comparison. Bifurcating the answers is also disingenuous. But you know that.

Oh shit I forgot to add in the fortybox variable
I/you can only compare things that I agree with, or fit my tinfoil hat theories, otherwise you can’t compare anything!

Got it. I’ll remind myself of this in the future.

[Fortybox]

So here you are, comparing mail-in voting to previous elections, but at the same time, complain you can’t compare this election to previous elections! That’s just hilarious.

You have officially entered time4dumb logic. Congrats?

There is a difference between comparing similarities vs. comparing differences. 2020 is massively different than 2016. But you know this.

A more accurate comparison would be in 2000. Gore had every right to contest the outcome and guess what? I think he should have won.

[Solkern]

You have officially entered time4dumb logic. Congrats?

There is a difference between comparing similarities vs. comparing differences. 2020 is massively different than 2016. But you know this.

A more accurate comparison would be in 2000. Gore had every right to contest the outcome and guess what? I think he should have won.



I’ll try one last time. Let’s see if you can get it.
First, and foremost, let’s fuck all the bullshit and just answer this basic question.(because after the legal bullshit, the results will be certified, so all this noise doesn’t mean shit) this question is simply about in 2016 did you support or not support the MSN when they projected Trump the victor.

1. In 2016, before the election was certified, and the MSM announced Trumps victory, were you here screaming NO! we must wait for the results to be certified!! ?
2. In 2016 before the election was certified, and the MSM announced Trumps victory, were you here saying Hahah Trump won! ?

Just pick 1 or 2. It’s not difficult. I don’t need a long drawn out bullshit response from you.

[Fortybox]

Oh shit I forgot to add in the fortybox variable
I/you can only compare things that I agree with, or fit my tinfoil hat theories, otherwise you can’t compare anything!

Got it. I’ll remind myself of this in the future.

It's not a tinfoil hat theory when the point-of-view is to let the process unfold. The difference is you don't want that to happen. Why? Because the constitution is something to be demolished and rewritten in your eyes.

[Fortybox]

I’ll try one last time. Let’s see if you can get it.
First, and foremost, let’s fuck all the bullshit and just answer this basic question.(because after the legal bullshit, the results will be certified, so all this noise doesn’t mean shit) this question is simply about in 2016 did you support or not support the MSN when they projected Trump the victor.

1. In 2016, before the election was certified, and the MSM announced Trumps victory, were you here screaming NO! we must wait for the results to be certified!! ?
2. In 2016 before the election was certified, and the MSM announced Trumps victory, were you here saying Hahah Trump won! ?

Just pick 1 or 2. It’s not difficult. I don’t need a long drawn out bullshit response from you.

I wasn't actively involved in the Political forums in 2016 so can't answer either of those questions. Unfortunately I didn't witness the time4fun meltdown as it transpired but thank goodness that thread is still here.

As stated before, I would have fully supported Clinton's contesting of the election if she decided to do so.

[Solkern]

I wasn't actively involved in the Political forums in 2016 so can't answer either of those questions. Unfortunately I didn't witness the time4fun meltdown as it transpired but thank goodness that thread is still here.

As stated before, I would have fully supported Clinton's contesting of the election if she decided to do so.


Hey look, we finally agree to something!

All I’m getting at is simple. Everyone is aware the MSM media projections don’t mean shit. We all know it. Just like in 2016, 2012, etc etc. can you tell me one time in recent history, where the MSM projections of the presidential victory as a whole were wrong? After all the legal bullshit that Trump is doing, that Hillary did, etc etc won’t/didn’t overturn the election. The margins are just too big. Trump’s lawsuits are being thrown out left and right, he’s not even really arguing voter fraud, or illegal voter. He’s arguing about his observers weren’t close enough, or how the counting should stop after 8pm on Election Day. These are all bullshit claims. Counting of ballots, always takes, days and weeks after the election is over. You, I and everyone else is just so used to the MSM projecting results and taking them as fact, right after the election.

This election results took longer for the MSM to come to a conclusion about the winner... not because of fraud or any shit like that. It’s because like you said.. a pandemic and the massive amounts of mail-in votes done, and the rules and state laws for counting those ballots are different for each state.

[Solkern]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/milk-him-cow-russian-state-095139510.html

‘Milk Him Like a Cow’: Russian State Media Mulls How to Take Advantage of Trump Before He’s Gone.

That’s just bad.

[Methais]

Exactly why aren't the people screaming the Presidential race isn't final yet saying the same thing about all the house and senate races that are also not final yet, the only one calling literally any race in the nation is the US is the media. Yet I don't see a single peep from anyone about that. Hell in Georgia the GOP Senatorial and House candidates are contesting the presidential ballots were bad on ballots they themselves were voted on, they are literally decrying the legitimacy of their own elections. McConnell already held an event welcoming New GOP Senators, not one of who has actually officially won a race, the double standard being shown here is ridiculous, but hey why use logic right.

The House and Senate races are not final yet.

[Fortybox]

Hey look, we finally agree to something!

All I’m getting at is simple. Everyone is aware the MSM media projections don’t mean shit. We all know it. Just like in 2016, 2012, etc etc. can you tell me one time in recent history, where the MSM projections of the presidential victory as a whole were wrong? After all the legal bullshit that Trump is doing, that Hillary did, etc etc won’t/didn’t overturn the election. The margins are just too big. Trump’s lawsuits are being thrown out left and right, he’s not even really arguing voter fraud, or illegal voter. He’s arguing about his observers weren’t close enough, or how the counting should stop after 8pm on Election Day. These are all bullshit claims. Counting of ballots, always takes, days and weeks after the election is over. You, I and everyone else is just so used to the MSM projecting results and taking them as fact, right after the election.

This election results took longer for the MSM to come to a conclusion about the winner... not because of fraud or any shit like that. It’s because like you said.. a pandemic and the massive amounts of mail-in votes done, and the rules and state laws for counting those ballots are different for each state.

I don't agree with your statement about everyone is aware the MSM projections don't mean something. Building the narrative and Joe going on TV with authoritative positioning before this in the heart of a pandemic where fraud has likely been magnified (my opinion - obviously you don't have this view), portrays that a decision has been made when it hasn't. This is ironic considering time4fun's continuous assertion of Trump being a dictator. What Biden is doing is exactly just that.

The margins are not too big. Removal of illegal ballots would be a literal game changer.

I don't care about whether or not lawsuits are being thrown out. Let the process unfold is my argument. Trump is arguing fraud - a new injunction was done this morning in Michigan alleging fraud.

Partially agree with you on results taking longer. Obviously that is the case with the increase of mail-in ballots. The issue is the increased likelihood of fraud and the red flags in certain states that any auditor should at least question.

[Taernath]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/milk-him-cow-russian-state-095139510.html

‘Milk Him Like a Cow’: Russian State Media Mulls How to Take Advantage of Trump Before He’s Gone.

That’s just bad.


Do it now, while no one can intervene... Use every hole, every opening...

https://i.imgur.com/nPw2gyh.gif

[Methais]

Hey guys 2020 is wild, can't compare to previous elections ...

Also complaining the data doesn't make sense due to the 2020 issues. Haha.

Right. We shouldn’t not be comparing this to our other elections. We should be comparing it to our other elections that had mass mail-in voting.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/nPw2gyh.gif

https://i.imgur.com/hd7rC6V.gif

[Fortybox]

https://i.imgur.com/hd7rC6V.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FATJpd4LWgeruTK/giphy.gif

[Solkern]

Building the narrative and Joe going on TV with authoritative positioning before this in the heart of a pandemic where fraud has likely been magnified (my opinion - obviously you don't have this view), portrays that a decision has been made when it hasn't.

Can you name one president, even going back to WW1 or WW2, where a projected president elect waited for the electoral certification process played out before he asserted his soon to be position? They haven’t and they don’t. It’s happened every time, no matter what is currently going on.

[Solkern]

Right. We shouldn’t not be comparing this to our other elections. We should be comparing it to our other elections that had mass mail-in voting.

Every election has huge amounts of mail-in voting... at what number do you start to consider it massive?

[Methais]

Every election has huge amounts of mail-in voting... at what number do you start to consider it massive?

This number.

[Methais]

It’s going to be investigated and recounted, and all the semantics posts in the universe here aren’t going to change that.

I still think democrats should be giddy over all this. Imagine how hard they’d be able to rub it in peoples’ faces on the right for the next 4 years if the whole thing changes nothing, right?

[Solkern]

The U.S. Census Bureau estimates that 10 percent of all ballots cast in the 2000 presidential election were cast by mail. By 2012, the practice had nearly doubled, to 19 percent of voters. In last year’s midterms, data from the Survey of the Performance of American Elections (SPAE) found that around a quarter of all voters voted by mail.

That seems like some huge mail-in vote numbers to be honest. So massive mail-in voting is nothing new... why all of a sudden is it massive fraud this year?

[Alfster]

The U.S. Census Bureau estimates that 10 percent of all ballots cast in the 2000 presidential election were cast by mail. By 2012, the practice had nearly doubled, to 19 percent of voters. In last year’s midterms, data from the Survey of the Performance of American Elections (SPAE) found that around a quarter of all voters voted by mail.

That seems like some huge mail-in vote numbers to be honest. So massive mail-in voting is nothing new... why all of a sudden is it massive fraud this year?

Let's turn to this 2016 tweet for insight

The Green Party just dropped its recount suit in Pennsylvania and is losing votes in Wisconsin recount. Just a Stein scam to raise money!
12:58 PM · Dec 4, 2016·Twitter for Android

[Solkern]

It’s going to be investigated and recounted, and all the semantics posts in the universe here aren’t going to change that.

I still think democrats should be giddy over all this. Imagine how hard they’d be able to rub it in peoples’ faces on the right for the next 4 years if the whole thing changes nothing, right?


Yup! Let them investigate let them try to find something. But don’t file lawsuits without evidence.

[Fortybox]

Every election has huge amounts of mail-in voting... at what number do you start to consider it massive?

Um no. You're really out of touch with this pandemic.

An increased pool also allows for fraud to be committed (and hidden) much more easily as it's harder to detect.

[Solkern]

Um no. You're really out of touch with this pandemic.

An increased pool also allows for fraud to be committed (and hidden) much more easily as it's harder to detect.

I’ve mentioned this before, do you know how long and how many people would need to be involved for massive voter fraud? That’s not even going into the fact that it would take both democrats and Republican politicians, on top of random people to be in on it.

The moon landing wasn’t fake, because no one involved ever said/let slip, talked about it being fake. You really believe in this day and age, a massive scandal of this portion on both political parties and randon citizens wouldn’t be found out?

[Clunk]

Does anyone know the basis for the rumors saying some states had vote counts greater than their number of registered voters?

[Solkern]

Does anyone know the basis for the rumors saying some states had vote counts greater than their number of registered voters?

Probably some random dude on Twitter, making up fake shit.

[Gelston]

Does anyone know the basis for the rumors saying some states had vote counts greater than their number of registered voters?

Boomers on FB spreading memes.

[Fortybox]

I’ve mentioned this before, do you know how long and how many people would need to be involved for massive voter fraud? That’s not even going into the fact that it would take both democrats and Republican politicians, on top of random people to be in on it.

The moon landing wasn’t fake, because no one involved ever said/let slip, talked about it being fake. You really believe in this day and age, a massive scandal of this portion on both political parties and randon citizens wouldn’t be found out?

The point of fraud is not to get detected. Are you seriously advocating that if fraud was there it would be immediately transparent? LOL.

The intent was likely to flip the states Biden would likely lose. It’s not massive fraud, just enough to bump results over the finish line.

[Solkern]

The point of fraud is not to get detected. Are you seriously advocating that if fraud was there it would be immediately transparent? LOL.

The intent was likely to flip the states Biden would likely lose. It’s not massive fraud, just enough to bump results over the finish line.


No I’m not, like I said before, you can’t expect 3-5 of your friends to keep your secret, but you think 1000’s and 1000’s of random people are going to keep a massive fraud scheme under wraps, that would have to be in the works for years? Without anything accidently leaking? No slip ups, zero fucks up? You are saying the democrats and republicans ran an absolutely flawless scheme involving thousands of people? Those republicans who would have had to be involved in this scheme, could have blown this thing WIDE open and destroyed the Democratic Party... Yet in this entire perfectly flawless, literally impossible to execute scheme, they didn’t bother to take the senate?
I mean come on...

[caelric]

To be fair, anytime actual video evidence of leftist malfeasance is offered up, the course is attacked, and somehow discredited, even with actual, unaltered video evidence. Project Veritas is a good example of this.

Cue the hue and cry of 'fake news'

[Solkern]

To be fair, anytime actual video evidence of leftist malfeasance is offered up, the course is attacked, and somehow discredited, even with actual, unaltered video evidence. Project Veritas is a good example of this.

Cue the hue and cry of 'fake news'

That goes both ways, and no one would deny it happens. But we are talking about a massive under taking that would shake the political foundation and our nation, not extremely localized shady shit.

[Alfster]

To be fair, anytime actual video evidence of leftist malfeasance is offered up, the course is attacked, and somehow discredited, even with actual, unaltered video evidence. Project Veritas is a good example of this.

Cue the hue and cry of 'fake news'

Project veritas is anything but credible. Bribing people and selectively editing videos isn't how you expose fraud

[Tgo01]

That’s a pretty desperate leap, don’t you think? “But the criminal says he didn’t!” Well, then there must not be a problem! You need to take twelve steps back and breathe.

Am I understanding you right? The whistleblower himself says he didn't recant his story, the "news" reports on a bunch of anonymous sources which say he did recant his story, and you think it's "desperate" to go by the words of the whistleblower instead of the anonymous sources?

I knew you leftists were lunatics but geez, try not to slide too far down the evolutionary scale.

[Clunk]

Thanks to those that responded.

[beldannon5]

come on Tgo. Don't you know you can't believe anyones word of mouth? I mean that's ridiculous to even think. (heavy sarcasm)

[Tgo01]

And just like that, Democrats don't care about whistleblowers anymore.

To this day we still don't know who the "whistleblower" for the Ukraine bullshit was, and people were literally threatened and banned from social media if they said the name of the person people thought was the whistleblower. And we had a full scale "investigation" into Trump and his administration over the anonymous accusations and went through a whole impeachment and everything.

But this USPS whistleblower has already been suspended without pay, has been doxed, was dragged before investigators and interrogated, has had his name dragged through the mud, and apparently Democrats want to end this investigation right here and now, and the same fuckers who went along with the Ukraine bullshit are cheering on this whistleblower having his life ruined.

You far leftists are a piece of work. And by "piece of work" I mean a bunch of pieces of shit.

[Alashir]

You far leftists are a piece of work. And by "piece of work" I mean a bunch of pieces of shit.

Lol - you can't be serious

[Tgo01]

Lol - you can't be serious

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/71gAAOSwRQlXgDTX/s-l300.jpg

[Alfster]

And just like that, Democrats don't care about whistleblowers anymore.

To this day we still don't know who the "whistleblower" for the Ukraine bullshit was, and people were literally threatened and banned from social media if they said the name of the person people thought was the whistleblower. And we had a full scale "investigation" into Trump and his administration over the anonymous accusations and went through a whole impeachment and everything.

But this USPS whistleblower has already been suspended without pay, has been doxed, was dragged before investigators and interrogated, has had his name dragged through the mud, and apparently Democrats want to end this investigation right here and now, and the same fuckers who went along with the Ukraine bullshit are cheering on this whistleblower having his life ruined.

You far leftists are a piece of work. And by "piece of work" I mean a bunch of pieces of shit.

Just following your lead. Fun to see you melting down over it, I will admit that.

Almost like one whistleblower followed the legal route and another postes all about it himself. Can you doxx yourself?

[Tgo01]

Almost like one whistleblower followed the legal route and another postes all about it himself. Can you doxx yourself?

"Legal route." You jokers are something else.

Also he was doxxed because he was dragged into his boss' office and before investigators before he even released his own name. Do you think the Ukraine "whistle blower" was dragged into his boss' office and was forced to answer questions before investigators and told to sign a statement pertaining to everything?

The answer to all questions is a big fat "NO" so why are you okay with this harassment?

Just say it. Be honest for probably the first time in your entire life: I like that it is different this time because I want the Democrat candidate to win no matter what.

Say it, Alfster. Save some of your fucking dwindling dignity.

"LOL! You're melting down by pointing out facts in a calm and rational manner about the underhanded tricks of the Democrat party! LOL LOL LOL!"

Can you guys just stop sniffing one another's farts for 2 seconds and come up for some fresh air so you can at least attempt to make sense?

[Bhaalizmo]

"Legal route." You jokers are something else.

Also he was doxxed because he was dragged into his boss' office and before investigators before he even released his own name. Do you think the Ukraine "whistle blower" was dragged into his boss' office and was forced to answer questions before investigators and told to sign a statement pertaining to everything?

The answer to all questions is a big fat "NO" so why are you okay with this harassment?

Just say it. Be honest for probably the first time in your entire life: I like that it is different this time because I want the Democrat candidate to win no matter what.

Say it, Alfster. Save some of your fucking dwindling dignity.

"LOL! You're melting down by pointing out facts in a calm and rational manner about the underhanded tricks of the Democrat party! LOL LOL LOL!"

You feel that you come across as calm and rational?

Like, all of the time or just right now during this particular meltdown?

[Tgo01]

You feel that you come across as calm and rational?

Like, all of the time or just right now during this particular meltdown?

Like shit eating gnats drawn to a flame.

I like that you all value my opinion so much.

[Parkbandit]

Just following your lead. Fun to see you melting down over it, I will admit that.

Almost like one whistleblower followed the legal route and another postes all about it himself. Can you doxx yourself?

Wonder if he will do it for the full 4 years like you have.

I doubt it.

[Parkbandit]

You feel that you come across as calm and rational?

Like, all of the time or just right now during this particular meltdown?

Why do alt lefties like you have such an absence of self awareness?

[Solkern]

Wonder if he will do it for the full 4 years like you have.

I doubt it.

I don’t,

[Alfster]

Wonder if he will do it for the full 4 years like you have.

I doubt it.

He's the rights version of t4f so likely.

[Alfster]

"Legal route." You jokers are something else.

Also he was doxxed because he was dragged into his boss' office and before investigators before he even released his own name. Do you think the Ukraine "whistle blower" was dragged into his boss' office and was forced to answer questions before investigators and told to sign a statement pertaining to everything?

The answer to all questions is a big fat "NO" so why are you okay with this harassment?

Just say it. Be honest for probably the first time in your entire life: I like that it is different this time because I want the Democrat candidate to win no matter what.

Say it, Alfster. Save some of your fucking dwindling dignity.

"LOL! You're melting down by pointing out facts in a calm and rational manner about the underhanded tricks of the Democrat party! LOL LOL LOL!"

Can you guys just stop sniffing one another's farts for 2 seconds and come up for some fresh air so you can at least attempt to make sense?

I voted for jorgenson, but I'm delighted at the unofficial results.

As far as the differences in whistleblowers, there's a legal route and there's a route that opens yourself up to backlash. Step 1: get a lawyer.

[Tgo01]

I voted for jorgenson, but I'm delighted at the unofficial results.

As far as the differences in whistleblowers, there's a legal route and there's a route that opens yourself up to backlash. Step 1: get a lawyer.

"Whistle blower protections!"

"Oh no wait! You gotta get a lawyer!"

[Alfster]

"Whistle blower protections!"

"Oh no wait! You gotta get a lawyer!"

https://www.uspsoig.gov/form/whistleblower-complaint-form

Sorry step 1 is what anyone should do, as you can read for yourself it's certainly not a requirement for protections.

He's on paid leave right now.

[time4fun]

There's a really good opinion piece in the NY Times today (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/opinion/trump-concession-transition.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR3sEzx6KffEI7wnSngrQUAqE_iuca2YVl_zVomsE y_24CnvO2GJoONVYCE). The author spoke to several constitutional law scholars and American historians to talk about what Trump is doing.


Many observers believe that the current situation presents a particularly dangerous mix, one that poses a potentially grave danger to American democracy.


Jonathan Gienapp, a professor of history at Stanford and the author of “The Second Creation: Fixing the American Constitution in the Founding Era,” noted by email that there have been close, contested elections in the past,

But none of these earlier examples featured what we see now: a completely manufactured controversy based on no evidence whatsoever, purely to maintain power, and to overturn a legitimate election.

In this context,

Trump’s refusal to concede and his congressional allies’ refusal to object to what he is doing is indeed most dangerous. If it continues to be given oxygen, it’s hard not to think that there could be lasting damage to the republic.

This, Gienapp concluded, “is what rot looks like.”


Sean Wilentz, a professor of history at Princeton, was outspoken:

It would be not simply a major departure but a deeply dangerous one were Trump to deny the legitimacy of Biden’s election. It would be a brutal renunciation of American democracy. It would create not simply a fissure but a chasm in the nation’s politics and government, telling his tens of millions of supporters as well as his congressional backers to reject Biden’s presidency. It would be an act of disloyalty unsurpassed in American history except by the southern secession in 1860-61, the ultimate example of Americans refusing to respect the outcome of a presidential election.

In fact, Wilentz warned:

Trump would be trying to establish a center of power distinct from and antagonistic to the legitimately elected national government — not formally a separate government like the Confederacy but a virtual one, operating not just out in the country but inside the government, above all in Congress.

Wilentz envisaged

a counter-government, administered by tweets, propped up by Fox News or whatever alternative outlet Trump might construct for himself — a kind of Trumpian government in exile, run from Mar a Lago or maybe from wherever else Trump selects to reside in, in order to avoid prosecution by the State of New York.

Wilentz and others argue that Trump is gearing up to violate a principle of peaceful transition established shortly after the founding of the nation.


Frank Wilkinson, a writer at Bloomberg and a friend of mine, provided the best explanation for Republican complicity in a July 15 column. His headline says it all: “Trump’s Party Cannot Survive in a Multiracial Democracy.”

In other words, Trump’s refusal to concede, and the support he is getting from his fellow Republicans, is part and parcel of the sustained drive by the right, especially since Barack Obama won a majority in 2008, to constrain and limit political participation by minorities by every available means: gerrymandering, voter suppression, restricting the time and place of balloting, setting new rules for voter identification and so forth.

On this theory, allowing the Nov. 3 vote to stand would, in the face of rising minority participation, endanger the ability of the Republican Party to compete in future national elections.


Tgo, Fortybox- you're not fighting against a stolen election. You're participating in the steal. This really is incredibly dangerous territory we're in, and you are selling your democracy out right now. Trump lost legitimately, and now he's trying to stage a coup.

And you're helping him do it.

[beldannon5]

How dare you help trump legally fight this. Shame shame shame (sarcasm again)

[caelric]

NY Times. Clearly, a neutral and unbiased source.

[time4fun]

How dare you help trump legally fight this. Shame shame shame (sarcasm again)

Fight what exactly?

[Solkern]

Fight what exactly?

Duh, the massive wide spread voter fraud that has happened with absolutely zero evidence or proof it’s actually happened, in states controlled by republicans. Who, have all said... there has been no voter fraud in our state or this election.

[time4fun]

Duh, the massive wide spread voter fraud that has happened with absolutely zero evidence or proof it’s actually happened, in states controlled by republicans. Who, have all said... there has been no voter fraud in this election.

Oh neat. Hey while we're at it- I actually think that all of the Republicans have been taken over by shape shifting lizard people.

WE MUST STOP THE ELECTION COUNTING RIGHT NOW! THE LIZARD PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO STEAL THE ELECTION!

I'm going to file 200 lawsuits around the country to stop this madness!

And if people have a problem with that, well too bad. It's vital that we ensure that we are only counting human votes and disregarding lizard people votes!

EVERY LEGAL HUMAN VOTE SHOULD BE COUNTED! I DEMAND A RECOUNT!

(Yes that's how stupid you people sound)

[time4fun]

Looks like one of these super serious lawsuits that the Trump campaign has filed is ending predictably. (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/az-judge-denies-trump-team-request-for-evidence-in-suit-over-maricopa-county-votes) The Trump campaign filed to have all of their "evidence" placed under seal:


An Arizona Superior Court judge has denied a request by President Trump's reelection team to seal evidence in a lawsuit alleging poll workers in Maricopa County "incorrectly rejected" Election Day votes.


Judge Daniel Kiley agreed with election officials' assertion that the public “has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.”[QUOTE]


According to the Arizona Republic, the Trump campaign claimed workers had disregarded procedure and that thousands of ballots could have been left uncounted or deemed "overvotes," but Maricopa officials estimated Monday that only 180 ballots were potentially in jeopardy.

It's a figure they said won't "make one iota of difference," according to 12 News.

Arizona sided with former Vice President Joe Biden by a 0.3 percentage point margin, with Biden besting President Trump 49.4% to 49.1%, respectively.

So riddle me this: if the Trump campaign has this amazing mountain of damming evidence, and if they're trying to show the American people that this election really was stolen...why would they be trying to keep anyone from seeing their "evidence"?

The lawsuits aren't serious- they aren't intended to actually prevail. They're just here to create chaos and to sow doubt.

[Tgo01]

The party that told us for the last 4 years that Trump wasn’t a legitimate president is now bitching about Trump wanting to bring his case to the courts and saying this undermines our Democracy.

What a bunch of pieces of shit.

[beldannon5]

Fight what exactly?

Do you even read the stuff you write. Right above where I put my statement you talked about tgo fighting for trump or something like that. I know you are really busy spouting all kinds of crap. When its over its over. Its not over yet either way. You and your leftist friends spew. Ore stuff then the people on the right on this site. We make a post you post 10 times or huge walls of text. As for sowing doubt not a single person on this board truly gives a crap about what the other side believes

[beldannon5]

And that is a huge issue tgo. Its okay for them to do everything in their power but not okay for trump. Crazy

[Ardwen]

As I recall with essentially the same margins in 3 states Hillary concede, Obama didn't fire half the DOD leadership and replace them with Yes men and deny access to Trump, he invited Trump over and set up the next administration.

[drauz]

"Legal route." You jokers are something else.

Also he was doxxed because he was dragged into his boss' office and before investigators before he even released his own name. Do you think the Ukraine "whistle blower" was dragged into his boss' office and was forced to answer questions before investigators and told to sign a statement pertaining to everything?

The answer to all questions is a big fat "NO" so why are you okay with this harassment?

Just say it. Be honest for probably the first time in your entire life: I like that it is different this time because I want the Democrat candidate to win no matter what.

Say it, Alfster. Save some of your fucking dwindling dignity.

"LOL! You're melting down by pointing out facts in a calm and rational manner about the underhanded tricks of the Democrat party! LOL LOL LOL!"

Can you guys just stop sniffing one another's farts for 2 seconds and come up for some fresh air so you can at least attempt to make sense?

The guy recanted his statement to postal agents.

[Alfster]

The party that told us for the last 4 years that Trump wasn’t a legitimate president is now bitching about Trump wanting to bring his case to the courts and saying this undermines our Democracy.

What a bunch of pieces of shit.

He wants to take you suckers for all you're worth, and the RNC is in on it too. Any donations under 8 grand go to...the RNC and his super pac.

He isn't trying to overturn the election, he's trying to fleece as much money as he can.


It's why his lawyers in court are admitting they aren't aware of fraud. It's all a show

[Alfster]

Trump's solicitation website carries a banner headline that says "OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND" and "CONTRIBUTE NOW."

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between "Save America," which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump's official "recount" committee fund until Trump's Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

[Tgo01]

He wants to take you suckers for all you're worth, and the RNC is in on it too. Any donations under 8 grand go to...the RNC and his super pac.

He isn't trying to overturn the election, he's trying to fleece as much money as he can.


It's why his lawyers in court are admitting they aren't aware of fraud. It's all a show

k

[Solkern]

He wants to take you suckers for all you're worth, and the RNC is in on it too. Any donations under 8 grand go to...the RNC and his super pac.

He isn't trying to overturn the election, he's trying to fleece as much money as he can.


It's why his lawyers in court are admitting they aren't aware of fraud. It's all a show

But but but... voter frau.... FAKE NEWS!!

[Alfster]

k

Better donate at least 8 grand or you're just donating to his pac and the RNC.

Republicans are suckers.

[Solkern]

Better donate at least 8 grand or you're just donating to his pac and the RNC.

Republicans are suckers.

I’m sure he’s already entering his credit card information.

[Alfster]

I’m sure he’s already entering his credit card information.

The good news is it even automatically makes it a reoccurring payment!

[Tgo01]

Better donate at least 8 grand or you're just donating to his pac and the RNC.

Republicans are suckers.

Some money donated to political campaigns always go to the DNC and RNC. It's like this is the very first time you've been informed of how this shit works. It probably is though because you're such a sheep.

[Solkern]

The good news is it even automatically makes it a reoccurring payment!

Also, you might need to clarify to him, that it needs to be a one time thing, it’s not a cumulative 8 + grand over multiple donations

[drauz]

https://youtu.be/QkNkQ2nDQfc?t=4431

Should start were he recants, but if not its 1 hr 13 min 45 seconds

[Taernath]

Trump's solicitation website carries a banner headline that says "OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND" and "CONTRIBUTE NOW."

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between "Save America," which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump's official "recount" committee fund until Trump's Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

The fact that the grift is so obvious and his pet idiots keep falling for it blows my mind.

[Fortybox]

Some very interesting analysis on the likelihood of algorithms being applied in the voting software. Analysis done on Michigan:


https://youtu.be/Ztu5Y5obWPk

[Alfster]

Some money donated to political campaigns always go to the DNC and RNC. It's like this is the very first time you've been informed of how this shit works. It probably is though because you're such a sheep.

In this case all of it does, unless you shell out over 8 grand. Gee. Weren't they running short of funds? Fundraising issues? Here's a way to take suckers for more.

[Tgo01]

Better donate at least 8 grand or you're just donating to his pac and the RNC.

Republicans are suckers.

So I did something that Alfster has never done in his life: I researched this on my own and didn't rely on a "news" source to tell me what to think (don't think I didn't notice many of the words and phrases you used were pulled directly from news sites I read.)

Here is a link to the website in question. (https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund-v2?location=djtwebredbar&money_bomb=false&recurring=false)

Notice there are two different funds you can donate to. The one you are bitching about and this one, which allocates the money thusly:

50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s 2020 general election account for general election debt retirement until such debt is retired.
50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s Recount Account. Any amount that exceeds the applicable contribution limit for 2020 general election debt retirement, including any amounts donated to DJTFP after such debt has been retired, will be designated in full toward DJFTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000).

Hey look at that! 50% of each contribution goes directly to the Recount Account. Gosh! I wonder why the media never bothered to inform you of this! Almost as if they are filled with fake news!

And campaigns trying to pay down their campaign debt!? Surely this is the first time in history this has ever happened! Oh wait in 2016 Bill Clinton was still paying down his 1996 debts and Hillary was still paying down her debts from 2008. What a bunch of grifters! That or you're just a fucking sheep who falls for outrage "news" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. You've been falling for fake news for over 4 years now, when are you going to stop?

[Tgo01]

In this case all of it does, unless you shell out over 8 grand. Gee. Weren't they running short of funds? Fundraising issues? Here's a way to take suckers for more.

You SHOULD feel like an ass posting this after you read my previous post. But since you've sold your soul to the left you won't. You'll just shrug your shoulders and wait patiently by your TV for someone from CNN and MSNBC to give you your next bit of fake news to spread.

[tyrant-201]

You SHOULD feel like an ass posting this after you read my previous post. But since you've sold your soul to the left you won't. You'll just shrug your shoulders and wait patiently by your TV for someone from CNN and MSNBC to give you your next bit of fake news to spread.

You alright man?

[Tgo01]

You alright man?

Why do you people keep thinking I have a problem because I so easily make leftists look like the incompetent fools that they are by calmly laying out the facts for them in a simple manner that even a retard with a third grade education (so most of the far leftists of the PC) could understand?

I get it. It sucks that your fellow leftists are mouth breathing mongoloids who fall for fake news each and every single day of their life. But perhaps you should take that up with them.

[~Rocktar~]

The guy recanted his statement to postal agents.

Except then he is on the news saying he didn't recant anything. Hummm.

[drauz]

Except then he is on the news saying he didn't recant anything. Hummm.

Except I posted the video of where he does it, put out by Project Veritas no less. Hhmmmm.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o7TKTDn976rzVgky4/source.gif

[Alfster]

So I did something that Alfster has never done in his life: I researched this on my own and didn't rely on a "news" source to tell me what to think (don't think I didn't notice many of the words and phrases you used were pulled directly from news sites I read.)

Here is a link to the website in question. (https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund-v2?location=djtwebredbar&money_bomb=false&recurring=false)

Notice there are two different funds you can donate to. The one you are bitching about and this one, which allocates the money thusly:

50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s 2020 general election account for general election debt retirement until such debt is retired.
50% of each contribution, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000), to be designated toward DJTFP’s Recount Account. Any amount that exceeds the applicable contribution limit for 2020 general election debt retirement, including any amounts donated to DJTFP after such debt has been retired, will be designated in full toward DJFTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800 ($5,000).

Hey look at that! 50% of each contribution goes directly to the Recount Account. Gosh! I wonder why the media never bothered to inform you of this! Almost as if they are filled with fake news!

And campaigns trying to pay down their campaign debt!? Surely this is the first time in history this has ever happened! Oh wait in 2016 Bill Clinton was still paying down his 1996 debts and Hillary was still paying down her debts from 2008. What a bunch of grifters! That or you're just a fucking sheep who falls for outrage "news" over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. You've been falling for fake news for over 4 years now, when are you going to stop?

That's some great sleuth work you've done. You just happen to be linking to the wrong grifter site.

Contributions to TMAGAC made by an Individual/Federal Multicandidate Political Committee will be allocated according to the following formula:

60% of each contribution first to Save America, up to $5,000/$5,000, then to DJTP’s Recount Account, up to a maximum of $2,800/$5,000.

40% of each contribution to the RNC’s Operating account, up to a maximum of $35,500/$15,000.

40% direct to RNC
60% to save america up to 5 grand. Any left over then goes to the recount fund.

[Alfster]

You SHOULD feel like an ass posting this after you read my previous post. But since you've sold your soul to the left you won't. You'll just shrug your shoulders and wait patiently by your TV for someone from CNN and MSNBC to give you your next bit of fake news to spread.

You should find the correct grifter site. Hahahaha you retard.

[Nathala Crane]

Why do you people keep thinking I have a problem because I so easily make leftists look like the incompetent fools that they are by calmly laying out the facts for them in a simple manner that even a retard with a third grade education (so most of the far leftists of the PC) could understand?

I get it. It sucks that your fellow leftists are mouth breathing mongoloids who fall for fake news each and every single day of their life. But perhaps you should take that up with them.

So... You're okay then?

[Alfster]

Except then he is on the news saying he didn't recant anything. Hummm.

Let's play, find the difference.

One scenario he makes comments to a camera.

One scenario he makes comments under oath.

Wonder which he lies to?

[Tgo01]

That's some great sleuth work you've done. You just happen to be linking to the wrong grifter site.

It's the same fucking site. Jesus H Christ. I can't slow walk you to this realization any easier. At some point you have to do some of the work.

[~Rocktar~]

Let's play, find the difference.

One scenario he makes comments to a camera.

One scenario he makes comments under oath.

Wonder which he lies to?

https://www.westernjournal.com/usps-whistleblower-denies-washington-post-bombshell-story-not-recant/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2020-11-11&utm_campaign=topdaily&fbclid=IwAR1dVRF237uH6jIN6FDsNlHiZJsagiub0sgKjHXMR 3HYgNCKZwhfA5SqoFY

[Blazar]

Let's play, find the difference.

One scenario he makes comments to a camera.

One scenario he makes comments under oath.

Wonder which he lies to?

Haha, yeah, I actually listened to most of it starting at the 1h13m mark Drauz pointed out. Dude is in over his head and basically says he has no evidence, and it's all about what he overheard, so in other words hearsay. Oh, and he was instructed to give the ballots picked up after Nov 3rd to a supervisor. He has no clue what actually happened after that fact.


Also, I find it highly amusing that Tgo considers himself stable and rational. Thanks Tgo, I needed a good chuckle today, and you damn sure delivered. Might be the funniest thing I've heard all week!

Yeah, this would be Tgo:

https://politicalpunchline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/trump-eclipse-smart.jpg

At least he found a suitable role model for his intelligence and character. That's important for someone to have. :nutty:

[Blazar]

https://www.westernjournal.com/usps-whistleblower-denies-washington-post-bombshell-story-not-recant/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2020-11-11&utm_campaign=topdaily&fbclid=IwAR1dVRF237uH6jIN6FDsNlHiZJsagiub0sgKjHXMR 3HYgNCKZwhfA5SqoFY

That's great, moron... did you actually listen to the video Drauz posted of this moron discussing with the Post Office IG and the Post Office Inspector? If so, you'd know that while he didn't recant his entire statement, he did take out any assertion of fact and actually knowing anything. It's laughable. But sure, we should definitely see where this goes, and it should be pretty easy to determine if all ballots were backdated to Nov 3, because there would be no ballots from the 4th through the 6th that should have been held on to. Comparing that to the number of ballots received after election day in previous years would establish a base line. But going off this hearsay from this one dude seems pretty thin, so it'll be interesting to what they can actually prove, you know?

[Tgo01]

November 10th:


And Tgo... this is the only way to describe you man. You've gone full crazy ass psycho bitch mode. This should be the only response to you ever again, because you're fucking out there man.

https://i.gifer.com/Rcna.gif


Give it a few days and you'll be right back to engaging with me. You parasitic piss ants can't help yourselves.

November 11th:


Also, I find it highly amusing that Tgo considers himself stable and rational. Thanks Tgo, I needed a good chuckle today, and you damn sure delivered. Might be the funniest thing I've heard all week!

Yeah, this would be Tgo:

https://politicalpunchline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/trump-eclipse-smart.jpg

At least he found a suitable role model for his intelligence and character. That's important for someone to have. :nutty:

Am I good or what?

Calm down, Blazar. Relax. It's gonna be alright. No need to be so upset and angry all the time.

[Tgo01]

That's great, moron... did you actually listen to the video Drauz posted of this moron discussing with the Post Office IG and the Post Office Inspector? If so, you'd know that while he didn't recant his entire statement, he did take out any assertion of fact and actually knowing anything.

From the very beginning he has always said it's what he overheard. This is like exactly how investigations get started, someone reports wrong doing they believe they witnessed, the authorities investigate it.

Instead in this case they investigated the witness and went after him.

You guys are like the biggest bunch of dumb fuckers that have ever existed. You people would have died at the ripe age of 13 if it weren't for this modern society keeping you worthless fucks alive.

[Blazar]

I never said I wouldn't, and I never said I would. I said it should be the only response to you. For all you talk about reading comprehension, you sure do miss a lot. If that was the only response to you, how could I wind you up and watch you spin? Good jorb though.

But yeah, I enjoy laughing at dumbasses, it's a hobby of mine and sometimes I just can't resist. You provide plenty of material, so thank you, I sincerely appreciate it.

And by the way, you delivered again since you thought that post was angry. Keep foaming at the mouth though Tgo, it's downright adorable.

And I'm curious to all you who actually believe this voter fraud conspiracy shit is true? What will be your answer when there is still no evidence of it after all of this shakes out?


Oh wait, let me prep everyone first:

https://i.imgflip.com/ue0md.jpg

[Blazar]

From the very beginning he has always said it's what he overheard. This is like exactly how investigations get started, someone reports wrong doing they believe they witnessed, the authorities investigate it.

Instead in this case they investigated the witness and went after him.

You guys are like the biggest bunch of dumb fuckers that have ever existed. You people would have died at the ripe age of 13 if it weren't for this modern society keeping you worthless fucks alive.

https://www.lovequotesmessages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/man_with_brain_stupid_meme1.jpg

[Tgo01]

I never said I wouldn't, and I never said I would.

Sure, buddy.

https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/5cc77b9d62cd0775db86eaa6/3:2/w_3798,h_2532,c_limit/GettyImages-1132776262.jpg

[time4fun]

Do you even read the stuff you write. Right above where I put my statement you talked about tgo fighting for trump or something like that. I know you are really busy spouting all kinds of crap. When its over its over. Its not over yet either way. You and your leftist friends spew. Ore stuff then the people on the right on this site. We make a post you post 10 times or huge walls of text. As for sowing doubt not a single person on this board truly gives a crap about what the other side believes

I'm the one spewing crap? You've been complaining about voter fraud and passively aggressively referring to the election as stolen, and you haven't actually presented a single piece of evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Meanwhile, you're listening to a sociopath in the White House who is also a pathological liar. The same man who told you his crowd sizes were huge (and had photos doctored to "prove" it), who told you COVID was a democratic hoax and not to trust medical professionals, who told you 4 years ago that he lost the popular vote because millions of undocumented immigrants (inexplicably) decided to risk their entire lives here to cast a vote against some guy who was probably already going to lose.

The same guy who has been screaming about this election being rigged for the better part of a year, when it became clear that he was likely going to lose.

And *WE'RE* spewing crap?

Are you serious?

[time4fun]

Except then he is on the news saying he didn't recant anything. Hummm.

He signed an affidavit, and there's a recording of him recanting genius. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-hopkins-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/11/c9b70eda-2470-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html)

But as usual, you were too buried in your hyper conservative fake news outlets to realize that.

[time4fun]

https://www.westernjournal.com/usps-whistleblower-denies-washington-post-bombshell-story-not-recant/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2020-11-11&utm_campaign=topdaily&fbclid=IwAR1dVRF237uH6jIN6FDsNlHiZJsagiub0sgKjHXMR 3HYgNCKZwhfA5SqoFY

This is now the third time you have been told that Western Journal is a disinformation site. (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/western-journalism/)

Here are some fun facts: (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/western-journal-highlights.html)


But each of the tech giants began limiting its reach. Google News blacklisted it for what it considered deceptive business practices, Apple News followed after saying it produced stories that promoted “views overwhelmingly rejected by the scientific community,” and Facebook downgraded The Western Journal after it was repeatedly dinged on fact-checking sites.


Floyd G. Brown, who founded the site, is a political activist who has chosen writing as his weapon. He began his career with the race-baiting “Willie Horton” ad during the 1988 presidential campaign, which used mug shots of a black convicted murderer to stoke fears that the Democratic candidate, Michael Dukakis, was soft on crime.

In the 1990s, he peddled opposition research and conspiracy theories about Bill Clinton. In the 2000s, he helped form a network of political action committees that made ads attacking Barack Obama, including one that questioned whether Mr. Obama was a secret Muslim.

It's REALLY pathetic that you keep going back to disinformation sites again and again. I mean that- genuinely pathetic. You have to feed your worldview on a steady diet of lies, conspiracy theories, and intentional misinformation.

If nothing else, it's so very cowardly. You can't handle the real world and real information, so you have to bury yourself in a fantasy. Save it for the game and start living in the real world like an adult.

You're not a child. So stop acting like one.

[beldannon5]

Ahh vishra with her 3 to 5 posts for every post. I almost hope this isn't overturned because thankfully since trump didn't win on election night (allegedly) we have not had our cities burned down. As I am 99 percent sure that would have happened if this was reversed. Waiting for the true results in December

[time4fun]

Ahh vishra with her 3 to 5 posts for every post. I almost hope this isn't overturned because thankfully since trump didn't win on election night (allegedly) we have not had our cities burned down. As I am 99 percent sure that would have happened if this was reversed. Waiting for the true results in December

You are seriously cheering on a sitting US President who is trying to overturn a legitimate democratic election.

You have lost your damn mind.

[beldannon5]

Thank you. No i don't think it is legitimate but when it's said and done unlike democrats I will support or at least not burn down buildings and protest the result. If Biden is the President he is the President.

[~Rocktar~]

This is now the third time you have been told that Western Journal is a disinformation site. (https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/western-journalism/)

Sure, because it disagrees with your leftist agenda, it must be disinformation.


Here are some fun facts: (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/22/us/western-journal-highlights.html)

So you cite a Leftist rag to support your argument, good job. You have been told many many more than three times that the NYT is a Leftist hack rag with an agenda and nothing more than an arm of the Democrat party but here you are again.


It's REALLY pathetic that you keep going back to disinformation sites again and again. I mean that- genuinely pathetic. You have to feed your worldview on a steady diet of lies, conspiracy theories, and intentional misinformation.


It's pathetic, and amusing that you continue to cling to the idea that you are somehow in some way, superior to me. You condescend at every opportunity, dismiss the sources of anything you can't logically argue against which means everything, you insult, demean and throw a temper tantrum about anything that might threaten your fragile little reality in your fragile glass house. And yet, somehow you think through all of that abuse you hurl, that somehow you are going to make me enlightened and somehow lift me out of the pall of ignorance and conservative-ness to be redeemed as a born again Socialist filled with remorse, regret and swelling with compassion and willingness to bow down as a slave to those better than me, which you perceive as you. Your arrogance, hubris and self fulfilled pomposity knows almost no bounds. I wonder how your neck manages to hold your massively, ego engorged head up all day.

The funniest thing is, you are a true believer. You somehow believe or put on the image of believing the shit coming out of you through the keyboard. I imagine you are as insufferably full of yourself in person. Alternately, you are truly terrified of how the world really is and that you can't manage to survive in it so you hide in this fragile personality living in a house of smoke, mirrors and glass all the while revolted by the reflection you see every day. You go about some pathetic job hoping nothing bad happens to you all the while waiting for some Leftist hero trope to come along and somehow make the world fair.


If nothing else, it's so very cowardly. You can't handle the real world and real information, so you have to bury yourself in a fantasy. Save it for the game and start living in the real world like an adult.

You're not a child. So stop acting like one.

The only coward here is you and the Leftist mob of arrogant, racist, bigoted, violent, selfish, envious children who all scream and throw a fit like babies when they don't get their favorite meal, all screaming, throwing things, red and enraged because they didn't get their way. You have spent the last four years insulting everyone, pushing a fantasy theory made up by a paid shill for the Hillary campaign, supported fraudulent investigations to distract the people, pushed a flip flopping narrative about a pandemic of lies to cover the failures of your party, covered for a foreign biological weapon attack on the world, sought to undermine the laws of the country that has blessed you beyond all measure by seeking to tear it down because of your white, Leftist guilt and pushed to support a fraudulent election process that even foreign Leftist media is citing as highly suspicious and likely rife with fraud.

Then you feel you can condescend to me about what you feel are bad sources? Fuck off bitch. You would be pitiable except that pity is beneath me.

To paraphrase "The Lion in Winter"

'Who says, "poor time4retardation"?
Don't everybody sob at once.

My God, if she went up in flames,
there's not a living soul...

who'd pee on her
to put the fire out.

Let's strike a flint and see.'


So off to your prison of the ego condescending THOT, I am set to enjoy a dram of my favorite scotch and sleep soundly knowing that I, unlike you, can handle the real world on my own and I shall think of you not at all.

[Ardwen]

Exactly where has there been one piece of accepted evidence of fraud? Trump lawyers in Michigan when asked by the judges if they were saying fraud, said no. GOP Secretaries of Stae in the states in question say there was no fraud.

[Solkern]

Exactly where has there been one piece of accepted evidence of fraud? Trump lawyers in Michigan when asked by the judges if they were saying fraud, said no. GOP Secretaries of Stae in the states in question say there was no fraud.

Or has any GOP in Michigan, Arizona, Pennsylvania, or Georgia claimed there was voter fraud?

[Solkern]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/11/politics/kfile-trump-officials-2016-election-results/index.html

Trump officials mocked Democrats in 2016 as 'sore losers' for not accepting election results

Kayleigh McEnany
McEnany attacked people who called for recount efforts as trying to delegitimize the President-elect on CNN Tonight in late November 2016.
"You have people trying to delegitimize the President-elect of the United States right now," McEnany said, adding that Trump won the Electoral College. "You have people out there that are calling for recounts that are unsubstantiated based on no evidence."

Jason Miller
"News flash for many of the partisan Democrats and those in the mainstream media who continue to try to delegitimize President-elect Trump's massive and historic win last month -- the election's over. Hillary Clinton lost," Miller said.

Matt Schlapp
"Hillary is on her sore loser tour. It started at Harvard where the Hillary campaign blamed everybody for Hillary's lost. And now we have her going through recounts. You know what she needs to do? She needs to get over it. She lost. Get out of the way and let Donald Trump be President," Schlapp said.


It’s just funny, how they’ve become snowflakes now.

[drauz]

From the very beginning he has always said it's what he overheard. This is like exactly how investigations get started, someone reports wrong doing they believe they witnessed, the authorities investigate it.

Instead in this case they investigated the witness and went after him.

You guys are like the biggest bunch of dumb fuckers that have ever existed. You people would have died at the ripe age of 13 if it weren't for this modern society keeping you worthless fucks alive.

Well, there it is. Even with audio proof of him saying I didn't hear them talking about backdating ballots you still think he heard them talking about backdating ballots. But we're the dumb ones...

https://media.tenor.com/images/ae5ae70674472fdd2841667c2b0aec5c/tenor.gif

[Solkern]

Well, there it is. Even with audio proof of him saying I didn't hear them talking about backdating ballots you still think he heard them talking about backdating ballots. But we're the dumb ones...

https://media.tenor.com/images/ae5ae70674472fdd2841667c2b0aec5c/tenor.gif

It’s called subliminal messaging duh. If you are a loyal Trump supporter, only you can hear it.

[Tgo01]

Well, there it is. Even with audio proof of him saying I didn't hear them talking about backdating ballots you still think he heard them talking about backdating ballots. But we're the dumb ones...

https://media.tenor.com/images/ae5ae70674472fdd2841667c2b0aec5c/tenor.gif

Look at what a fucking sheep you are. Like holy fucking shit. The agents were threatening him and weren’t there to investigate his claims, they were there to bury his claims. The agents were the ones who specially told him to say he didn’t hear anyone use the word “backdate” because that’s the crux of the issue isn’t it? And here you are, like the good retarded sheep that you are suggesting this should all go away because the agents convinced him that he had to say he never heard the word “backdated” because they were threatening HIM with a crime.

How do you sleep at night being such a worthless and easily manipulated human being?

[Solkern]

Look at what a fucking sheep you are. Like holy fucking shit. The agents were threatening him and weren’t there to investigate his claims, they were there to bury his claims. The agents were the ones who specially told him to say he didn’t hear anyone use the word “backdate” because that’s the crux of the issue isn’t it? And here you are, like the good retarded sheep that you are suggesting this should all go away because the agents convinced him that he had to say he never heard the word “backdated” because they were threatening HIM with a crime.

How do you sleep at night being such a worthless and easily manipulated human being?

Oh yeah, they were there to bury his claims, while purposely making threats to him... you do know that’s a crime, right? All in the while keeping an audio recording of it. Making false statements to the federal government is also a crime, You do know that right? He back tracked cause he didn’t want to get in trouble for his lies. Seems pretty straightforward to me

[Tgo01]

Oh yeah, they were there to bury his claims, while purposely making threats to him... you do know that’s a crime, right?

Christ almighty. You leftists are the dumbest fucksticks ever. “That’s a crime so therefore the investigators wouldn’t do that!”

[drauz]

Look at what a fucking sheep you are. Like holy fucking shit. The agents were threatening him and weren’t there to investigate his claims, they were there to bury his claims. The agents were the ones who specially told him to say he didn’t hear anyone use the word “backdate” because that’s the crux of the issue isn’t it? And here you are, like the good retarded sheep that you are suggesting this should all go away because the agents convinced him that he had to say he never heard the word “backdated” because they were threatening HIM with a crime.

I’m not sure who is more easily manipulated, you or Solkern. We should hold a contest.

What did they threaten him with? The truth? Like hey, you've made a sworn statement and so far you've contradicted that statement completely? They didn't tell him to say anything, they asked if he heard them use those words. He did not hear them talking about backdating.

I wasn't suggesting anything, there you go putting words in people's mouths and arguing against something that wasn't said.

They didn't convince him of anything, they only took his statements without embellishment instead of what he assumed they were talking about. They advised him of his rights, went over it very slowly with him, and took his statements making sure they got it correctly. It seemed like a standard investigation to me.

I would say you can do better but we all know you can't. All you can do is argue against a position I didn't make and scream "OMG this is so easy, you're so dumb".

And FYI, yes backdating is the crux of the issue when the issue is backdating ballots.

[Fortybox]

Thank you. No i don't think it is legitimate but when it's said and done unlike democrats I will support or at least not burn down buildings and protest the result. If Biden is the President he is the President.

They tampered with the algorithms in key battleground states. Michigan heavy GOP precincts had a large percentage of their votes transferred to Biden. In total, around 140k.

[Fortybox]

Exactly where has there been one piece of accepted evidence of fraud? Trump lawyers in Michigan when asked by the judges if they were saying fraud, said no. GOP Secretaries of Stae in the states in question say there was no fraud.

Watch the video I posted above. Our voting system is a complete fraud. There is enough evidence in the data to show that Michigan manipulated the votes.

Also, you have no proof that your vote actually went to who you voted for.

[Solkern]

Watch the video I posted above. Our voting system is a complete fraud. There is enough evidence in the data to show that Michigan manipulated the votes.

Also, you have no proof that your vote actually went to who you voted for.

So, why wasn’t this huge scam and brought up in 2016, 2012, 2008, 2004, 2000 etc? Or it just happened this year right?

[time4fun]

Well, there it is. Even with audio proof of him saying I didn't hear them talking about backdating ballots you still think he heard them talking about backdating ballots. But we're the dumb ones...

https://media.tenor.com/images/ae5ae70674472fdd2841667c2b0aec5c/tenor.gif

He did the same thing after the recording of Trump admitting that COVID was serious and deadly while he was telling the American people it was a hoax.

Tgo's big claim? Since Trump didn't say the words "I'm lying to the American people", the recording wasn't proof he was lying.

Bad case of TDS

[Solkern]

They tampered with the algorithms in key battleground states. Michigan heavy GOP precincts had a large percentage of their votes transferred to Biden. In total, around 140k.

Like the Arizona AG said, people just hate trump... they voted blue for president and red down the rest of the ballot. Is it that hard for you to understand? You act like every republican voted for Trump.

[time4fun]

Thank you. No i don't think it is legitimate but when it's said and done unlike democrats I will support or at least not burn down buildings and protest the result. If Biden is the President he is the President.

Um no.

You don't get to run around repeatedly giving support to a BS conspiracy theory about our election while repeatedly refusing to provide even one ounce of evidence for widespread voter fraud (because you know you have none but still decided our entire election system is a lie so you don't have to admit Trump is the liar) and then act like somehow you're the responsible adult in the room.

You're not crazy like Rockstar. And you're not stupid like Tgo. You don't get a pass on this.

[time4fun]

They tampered with the algorithms in key battleground states. Michigan heavy GOP precincts had a large percentage of their votes transferred to Biden. In total, around 140k.

No they didn't . You're repeating a fake news story that has been fact checked numerous times. And if you bothered to fact check this stuff, you would know that.

How did you get so broken that you can't even bring yourself to fact check this stuff? You're literally participating in an attempted coup right now, and somehow THAT'S less scary to you than 5 minutes on a fact checking site.

Stop acting like an idiot child. Fact check. Use non-partisan sources. Dear God, you're an American citizen, and you're acting like you're in some damn cult, you're so afraid of the truth.

[Solkern]

They tampered with the algorithms in key battleground states. Michigan heavy GOP precincts had a large percentage of their votes transferred to Biden. In total, around 140k.

Trump got 360k votes in Maine.
Susan Collins got 414k votes in Maine.
Does that mean it’s fraud too?!
Or does it mean people just didn’t vote for Trump, but voted red down ballot?

[Solkern]

No they didn't . You're repeating a fake news story that has been fact checked numerous times. And if you bothered to fact check this stuff, you would know that.

How did you get so broken that you can't even bring yourself to fact check this stuff? You're literally participating in an attempted coup right now, and somehow THAT'S less scary to you than 5 minutes on a fact checking site.

Stop acting like an idiot child. Fact check. Use non-partisan sources. Dear God, you're an American citizen, and you're acting like you're in some damn cult, you're so afraid of the truth.

Fact checking would mean that the information he wants to believe is in fact, not true. That’s why he chooses not to do it. Let him believe in his crazy conspiracy theories. I find it highly entertaining.

[Parkbandit]

No they didn't . You're repeating a fake news story that has been fact checked numerous times. And if you bothered to fact check this stuff, you would know that.

How did you get so broken that you can't even bring yourself to fact check this stuff? You're literally participating in an attempted coup right now, and somehow THAT'S less scary to you than 5 minutes on a fact checking site.

Stop acting like an idiot child. Fact check. Use non-partisan sources. Dear God, you're an American citizen, and you're acting like you're in some damn cult, you're so afraid of the truth.

Yea Fortybox.. stop acting like time4fun and a group of others here in 2016 for the past 4 years.

This election is over. The math isn't there. The recount won't give President Trump thousands of votes in 5-6 states that he would need to be re-elected.

There does need to be a top/down investigation regarding this election and ensure the vote you cast actually made it into the count correctly. Of course, since Biden won.. I doubt we will have it and it'll be business as usual.

Lock up the Senate to give Biden cover from his alt-left wing of the party, get the people and businesses the help they need to get back on their feet and let's all get back to work.

[Methais]

From the very beginning he has always said it's what he overheard. This is like exactly how investigations get started, someone reports wrong doing they believe they witnessed, the authorities investigate it.

Instead in this case they investigated the witness and went after him.

You guys are like the biggest bunch of dumb fuckers that have ever existed. You people would have died at the ripe age of 13 if it weren't for this modern society keeping you worthless fucks alive.

Remember when Trump got impeached because someone thought they might have overheard something?

[Solkern]

There does need to be a top/down investigation regarding this election and ensure the vote you cast actually made it into the count correctly. Of course, since Biden won.. I doubt we will have it and it'll be business as usual.

While I agree with this, tell me, Trump had four years, why didn’t he do a top/down investigation regarding the election process to ensure your vote was correct and counted? Even if Trump won, nothing would have changed either way.

[Parkbandit]

While I agree with this, tell me, Trump had four years, why didn’t he do a top/down investigation regarding the election process to ensure your vote was correct and counted? Even if Trump won, nothing would have changed either way.

There wasn't all the same voting irregularities in 2016. We had all states results that night and Trump was declared the winner, even when there was multiple states that the voting was extremely close.

We are more than a week later, and many states still haven't recorded all their votes. Part of this is because the vote was so closely split, but the other part was mail in/absentee ballots used due to the pandemic.

[Solkern]

There wasn't all the same voting irregularities in 2016. We had all states results that night and Trump was declared the winner, even when there was multiple states that the voting was extremely close.

We are more than a week later, and many states still haven't recorded all their votes. Part of this is because the vote was so closely split, but the other part was mail in/absentee ballots used due to the pandemic.

Fair point, but he knew for quite some time that mail-in voting was going to be at an all time high this year. He had plenty of time to get something started, yet he didn’t do anything about it.

[Fortybox]

So, why wasn’t this huge scam and brought up in 2016, 2012, 2008, 2004, 2000 etc? Or it just happened this year right?

Watch the video I posted.

[Fortybox]

Like the Arizona AG said, people just hate trump... they voted blue for president and red down the rest of the ballot. Is it that hard for you to understand? You act like every republican voted for Trump.

Again, watch the video, as what was uncovered in Michigan is a straight linear relationship with multiple precincts at a certain cutoff point. They switched Trump to Biden votes in areas with high GOP %'s. It is such a linear relationship that you can directly calculate the slope associated with it, which is extremely unlikely. It's not that clear cut.

[Fortybox]

No they didn't . You're repeating a fake news story that has been fact checked numerous times. And if you bothered to fact check this stuff, you would know that.

How did you get so broken that you can't even bring yourself to fact check this stuff? You're literally participating in an attempted coup right now, and somehow THAT'S less scary to you than 5 minutes on a fact checking site.

Stop acting like an idiot child. Fact check. Use non-partisan sources. Dear God, you're an American citizen, and you're acting like you're in some damn cult, you're so afraid of the truth.

I'll trust an MIT professor with data proof points on this. The data suggests there was tampering.

[Alfster]

I'll trust an MIT professor with data proof points on this. The data suggests there was tampering.

No. No it doesn't. But please donate so this charade can be over.

[Methais]

I'm the one spewing crap?

:rofl:

Oh sweetie,

That's all you've ever done.

What you haven't done though is acquired even a minimal amount of self-awareness.

[Seran]

I'll trust an MIT professor with data proof points on this. The data suggests there was tampering.

I trust UN Fair Elections Monitors, individual Secretaries of State and bipartisan County officials who have all said it was a fair election and there's no evidence of widespread tampering.

Your video that "suggests, implies or infers" is nonsense

[Fortybox]

No. No it doesn't. But please donate so this charade can be over.

Yes. Yes it does. But please continue to have your head buried in the sand.

You have zero proof to know where your vote went. If you voted for Biden or vice versa or really anything you’ve put on the ballot.

[Fortybox]

I trust UN Fair Elections Monitors, individual Secretaries of State and bipartisan County officials who have all said it was a fair election and there's no evidence of widespread tampering.

Your video that "suggests, implies or infers" is nonsense

You should be more concerned about the software being used.

There is no proof of your input.

There is no proof of the output.

The process can 100% be manipulated and likely has been by both republicans and democrats.

[Methais]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/11/politics/kfile-trump-officials-2016-election-results/index.html

Trump officials mocked Democrats in 2016 as 'sore losers' for not accepting election results

Kayleigh McEnany
McEnany attacked people who called for recount efforts as trying to delegitimize the President-elect on CNN Tonight in late November 2016.
"You have people trying to delegitimize the President-elect of the United States right now," McEnany said, adding that Trump won the Electoral College. "You have people out there that are calling for recounts that are unsubstantiated based on no evidence."

Jason Miller
"News flash for many of the partisan Democrats and those in the mainstream media who continue to try to delegitimize President-elect Trump's massive and historic win last month -- the election's over. Hillary Clinton lost," Miller said.

Matt Schlapp
"Hillary is on her sore loser tour. It started at Harvard where the Hillary campaign blamed everybody for Hillary's lost. And now we have her going through recounts. You know what she needs to do? She needs to get over it. She lost. Get out of the way and let Donald Trump be President," Schlapp said.


It’s just funny, how they’ve become snowflakes now.

It's just as funny how democrats are doing the exact same thing right now after 4 years of crying foul.

[Parkbandit]

Fair point, but he knew for quite some time that mail-in voting was going to be at an all time high this year. He had plenty of time to get something started, yet he didn’t do anything about it.

Are you following the conversation at all or just posting stuff to post stuff?

[Parkbandit]

I trust UN Fair Elections Monitors

Bro..........................

[Parkbandit]

You should be more concerned about the software being used.

There is no proof of your input.

There is no proof of the output.

The process can 100% be manipulated and likely has been by both republicans and democrats.

To actually believe that would to also believe that both Republicans and Democrats wanted Trump over Hillary and Joe Biden over Trump.

That makes zero sense.

[Back]

Biden won. Recounts will not change his lead in PA. After that none of the other states in question matter. Biden has 5 million more popular votes. Biden has more votes than any president in American history. Shows over. Go home.

We need to fight this pandemic together.

[Fortybox]

To actually believe that would to also believe that both Republicans and Democrats wanted Trump over Hillary and Joe Biden over Trump.

That makes zero sense.

The question at least has to be asked. If anything, a focus on election fraud is going to be good for the American people to know more about.

[Fortybox]

Biden won. Recounts will not change his lead in PA. After that none of the other states in question matter. Biden has 5 million more popular votes. Biden has more votes than any president in American history. Shows over. Go home.

We need to fight this pandemic together.

Recounts with illegal ballots removed would change his lead.

And spare me the fake unity garbage. We didn't have that the last 4 years and we will not have that going forward. IMO the chasm is only going to get wider.