Election Watch 2020 - Trump/Pence vs Biden/Harris

[~Rocktar~]

I make enough money to be comfortable and am smart enough to realize my taxes aren't going to change because I make less than 400k a year. Money is by far, one of the least of the issues that concerns me with this election. What exactly is so great about the Orange man right now that you want him back? Record unemployment? Record negative GDP growth? Trade defecit with China is higher? Farmers are having to live as socialists?

You believe the part in bold which demonstrably proves that your previous underlined, made bold and enlarged is completely false.

[~Rocktar~]

Wow man. Wealth inequality has gotten better with a good economy? I won't bother with any of the others... but really? Do you live under a fucking rock or did your last autoerotic asphyxiation session destroy your last functional brain cell?

Wealth inequality is a dogwhistle for the Left meaning "be jealous and envious of those better than you."

[Tgo01]

Wow man. Wealth inequality has gotten better with a good economy?

Do you think wealth inequality gets better with a bad economy? Again I know your TDS has made you the stupidest person in whatever hell hole of a state you live in, but use some common fucking sense.

[Blazar]

That's because they are morons and their feelers are more important than the children that starve under bad economies due to job loss and economic hardship and because most are too stupid to realize that they are the cause of that kind of thing. After all, we watched Seattle go for the minimum wage increase and tax increase, then followed the unemployment, business losses and rent increases.

Your facts don't track even at the surface level:

https://i.ibb.co/YT6DX0S/Seattle.png (https://ibb.co/mFmv0NK)


$12.00 by January 1, 2019. $13.50 by January 1, 2020. $15.00 by January 1, 2021. $15.75 by January 1, 2022.

[Blazar]

Do you think wealth inequality gets better with a bad economy? Again I know your TDS has made you the stupidest person in whatever hell hole of a state you live in, but use some common fucking sense.

No, it takes good policy and a good economy, but your statement that they just naturally get better with a good economy is ignorant and short sighted. Holy fuck man, if you were any dumber you'd probably be a rock. I'm pretty sure any other sperm in your dad's load would have ended up smarter than you. 1 in 250 million chance someone ends up as dumb as you. Remarkable!

[Back]

In what is the most pathetic, self-centered, and destructive thing I've seen- after 4 years of pathetic, self-centered, and destructive displays- Trump just got up in front of the entire country and began making up wild tales of fraud. He and his family are trying to incite people to violence, and he's trying to get the country to stop believing in our democratic process. Because he's Trump- if he's going down, he's going to take as many people as possible down with him. Even if it's half of our country.

I have never seen anything so vile. And this is why he is unfit for office.

And anyone who supports this is a fool who has lost their way.

It is absolutely shameful how Trump and his supporters are harassing the elected and volunteer American poll workers with claims they are somehow cheating. These people, republican and democrat alike, are busting their asses in one of the most voted elections during a fucking pandemic. Their integrity is being called into question because the sore loser and his gullible army can't handle reality.

Absolutely fucking shameful.

[Tgo01]

No, it takes good policy and a good economy

So weird! So we all agree that a good economy is the thing for everything the left holds so dearly, yet they don't want to elect someone who gives a shit about the fucking economy and instead wants to elect someone who will just say the words they want to hear.

And this is the problem with the left. Republicans would probably be the dominate party in this country for decades if they just grew some fucking balls and held the left accountable and did something for once instead of waiting for Trump to come along to fix their fucking mess then tuck tail and run as soon as the going gets tough.

Fuck Democrats and Republicans. Democrats are batshit insane and Republicans are cowards allowing the Democrats to make them fear being called a racist for anything they do.

[Blazar]

So weird!

And so even in times of good economy, show me where wealth inequality has gotten better?

https://equitablegrowth.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/fig2-1.png

https://i.redd.it/szwd5045fzl51.png

Go ahead, show me. I'll wait. Hint: You won't be able to, because it's been bad policy that only reinforces the wealth gap. Wipe the drool off now, you're embarrassing yourself.

And Rocktar, it's not even worth arguing your comment. You're such an idiot.

[~Rocktar~]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/123960864_3253586298084232_7644529765262866009_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=tiwWwCgyWMMAX86E6YY&_nc_oc=AQlM7ofLChNt-vEyrAmlUy8b554MyC4hcKrIkdL_Ts0HguSk13XuaQowx4LrmCL GDII&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=a5768ad05c8ec4dfd1f93e54c4db7fc7&oe=5FCB9D69

[gemstonefella]

You believe the part in bold which demonstrably proves that your previous comment in italics is completely false.


That looks underlined, not italicized.

[gemstonefella]

Your facts don't track even at the surface level:

https://i.ibb.co/YT6DX0S/Seattle.png (https://ibb.co/mFmv0NK)


Don't tell him Florida just voted in a $15 minimum wage.

[Blazar]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/123960864_3253586298084232_7644529765262866009_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=tiwWwCgyWMMAX86E6YY&_nc_oc=AQlM7ofLChNt-vEyrAmlUy8b554MyC4hcKrIkdL_Ts0HguSk13XuaQowx4LrmCL GDII&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=a5768ad05c8ec4dfd1f93e54c4db7fc7&oe=5FCB9D69

Comparing proven foreign interference with our election and accusations of a rigged election across multiple disparate states and policies/procedures. Oh yes, they are definitely the same thing.

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[gemstonefella]

You believe the part in bold which demonstrably proves that your previous comment in italics is completely false.


You realize Trump built in rising tax rates on us normal folk when he passed his dumbass Tax Break in 2017? You're going to be paying more and more every year, until in 2025-2027 you will be paying a higher level than you were paying in 2016.

[Blazar]

So weird! So we all agree that a good economy is the thing for everything the left holds so dearly, yet they don't want to elect someone who gives a shit about the fucking economy and instead wants to elect someone who will just say the words they want to hear.

And this is the problem with the left. Republicans would probably be the dominate party in this country for decades if they just grew some fucking balls and held the left accountable and did something for once instead of waiting for Trump to come along to fix their fucking mess then tuck tail and run as soon as the going gets tough.

Fuck Democrats and Republicans. Democrats are batshit insane and Republicans are cowards allowing the Democrats to make them fear being called a racist for anything they do.

Ugh, show me in Biden's policy where he says he doesn't give a shit about the economy? Just because someone won't sacrifice everything to increase their personal wealth, and make some pretty numbers that are just going to bubble and collapse here soon, doesn't mean they don't give a shit about the economy. Everyone knows a country needs a strong economy to succeed. If you know that, I promise, so does everyone else.

You sound like a fucking cry baby.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0b2f9423f04e98c870b9276d15dad6bf/tenor.gif?itemid=16437202

[Tgo01]

And so even in times of good economy, show me where wealth inequality has gotten better?

https://equitablegrowth.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/fig2-1.png

https://i.redd.it/szwd5045fzl51.png

Go ahead, show me. I'll wait. Hint: You won't be able to, because it's been bad policy that only reinforces the wealth gap. Wipe the drool off now, you're embarrassing yourself.

And Rocktar, it's not even worth arguing your comment. You're such an idiot.

Your top graph stops at 2016, strange since the economy took off in 2017. Doesn’t your second graph show things getting better after 2016?

Also wealth inequality is a dumb measure anyways. How does Jeff Bezos being a trillionaire affect you? Wouldn’t wage growth be a better measure? But you want to ignore that because even a retarded monkey knows wage growth is better in a good economy than a bad one. Then again you aren’t as intelligent as a retarded monkey so maybe you aren’t ignoring that metric on purpose.

[Tgo01]

Ugh, show me in Biden's policy where he says he doesn't give a shit about the economy? Just because someone won't sacrifice everything to increase their personal wealth, and make some pretty numbers that are just going to bubble and collapse here soon, doesn't mean they don't give a shit about the economy. Everyone knows a country needs a strong economy to succeed. If you know that, I promise, so does everyone else.

You sound like a fucking cry baby.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0b2f9423f04e98c870b9276d15dad6bf/tenor.gif?itemid=16437202

Off the top of my head: wants to put us back in the Paris climate accord, wants to destroy the energy sector, supports the green new deal, wants to go easy on China. You really think I thought Biden just came out and said “I don’t care about the economy”? You fucking moron.

[Solkern]

All you do is make mistakes, so no, I don't need a confession from you because I already know this. I just enjoy pointing out you're fucking stupid, so that one day you'll hopefully become self aware enough to realize the truth of it. Even the excuses you make for yourself are stupid. Auto correct. Suuuuure.

And sure you have, just look at the commander in cry baby, oh so desperate for a win he's been spewing bullshit this entire time.

And as always, your "facts" are exaggerated. The limitations were keeping observers 25 feet away from the ballot counters, and the judge reduced that to 6 feet. Not sure how much anyone can really see from 6 feet away on a ballot, but I mean what are you looking for? People seeing if it's a Trump ballot and throwing it away? I mean honestly, in what way do you think these poll workers are going to cheat? Please, detail out exactly how you think they would pull this off. I do love to laugh at a good conspiracy theory. And I don't have a problem with observers being allowed closer. I have no issue with it at all, because I don't believe there's a massive conspiracy against Trump. He is going to lose because he's a narcissistic bigot. It's pretty clear. Luckily, it seems like more than half of our country has seen through his bullshit.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pennsylvania-lead-narrows-campaign-legal-fight





It's Tgo0Idiothttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Manwithtinfoilhat.jpg


Lol auto correct from agnostic to atheism. Hahahaha

And no TG you are WRONG. Sorry to burst your retarded bubble, the blanket term of agnostic can mean you can believe that there is the existence of a god, but he is beyond human understanding or you don’t. That’s why there is a breakdown of it to agnostic theism and agnostic atheist. To better understand where agnostic people stand in reference to if they believe in a existence of a god or not. Damn you are dumb. PB just said you were agnostic. All I said, and what? That basic term agnostic doesn’t only mean you think gods don’t exist. You’ve been agnostic all your life, so you claim. Yet you can’t understand this basic concept... or are you atheist and you just keep autocorrecting to agnostic?

[Tgo01]

Lol auto correct from agnostic to atheism. Hahahaha

And no TG you are WRONG. Sorry to burst your retarded bubble the blanket term of agnostic can mean you can believe that there is the existence of a god, but he is beyond human understanding. That’s why there is a breakdown of it to agnostic theism and agnostic atheist. To better understand where agnostic people stand in reference to if they believe in a existence of a go LS or not. Damn you are dumb. PB just said you were agnostic. All I said, and what? That basic term agnostic doesn’t only mean you don’t think gods don’t exist. You’ve been agnostic all your life, so you claim. Yet you can’t understand this basic concept... or are you atheist and you just keep autocorrecting to agnostic?

That’s an agnostic theist, you fucking retard, something I have never claimed to be and something you didn’t specify you were. Now don’t bother wasting your time replying to me again unless you just want morons like Blazar to suck your tiny dick, which seems to be your only purpose on the PC anymore. What a sad life you must live that you seek out so much validation from the human scum that frequents the PC.

[Solkern]

That’s an agnostic theist, you fucking retard, something I have never claimed to be and something you didn’t specify you were. Now don’t bother wasting your time replying to me again unless you just want morons like Blazar to suck your tiny dick, which seems to be your only purpose on the PC anymore. What a sad life you must live that you seek out so much validation from the human scum that frequents the PC.


You still don’t get it do you? I’m not even talking about what YOU claimed. I have no idea what YOU claimed.
PB said you are agnostic, so you don’t believe in god, I corrected HIM, and said, no, an agnostic can believe in the existence of god, not all agnostics don’t believe in the existence of a god. It has zero to do with what you claimed, and only PB not understanding that an agnostic can believe in god.

Get it now?
If you are agnostic atheist, good for you. I’m agnostic theist. But once again, it wasn’t about you. It was about PB’s failure to understand what exactly what an agnostic can believe in.

[~Rocktar~]

That looks underlined, not italicized.

It was both but I will go back and clarify it for you.

[Solkern]

Damn, it’s really close in GA trumps lead his dwindled to less than 2k votes. PA is about 26k.
I’m interested to see if Biden will hold onto his lead in Arizona. I think GA will come down to a couple of hundred votes.. further showing that every fucking vote counts!

[Blazar]

Your top graph stops at 2016, strange since the economy took off in 2017. Doesn’t your second graph show things getting better after 2016?

Also wealth inequality is a dumb measure anyways. How does Jeff Bezos being a trillionaire affect you? Wouldn’t wage growth be a better measure? But you want to ignore that because even a retarded monkey knows wage growth is better in a good economy than a bad one. Then again you aren’t as intelligent as a retarded monkey so maybe you aren’t ignoring that metric on purpose.

Alright follow along. Say there's 5 trillion dollars total in the US. Bezos has 3 trillion dollars. Now, there's only 2 trillion dollars for all 320m or so other Americans.

Now, Bezos increases his wealth to 4 trillion dollars, but the total dollars available only grew to 5.5 trillion dollars. Now, there's only 1.5 trillion dollars available for the rest of Americans. Only since population continues to grow, that now 1.5 trillion dollar sum would be split between say, 330m Americans. See, that's how the wealth gap keeps getting bigger. The pool is only so big, and so yes, when a select few control the majority of the wealth, it affects everyone. Even you, but sadly you're waaaaaay too dumb to see that shit. You've been guzzling Trump's spunk for way too long. You probably actually believe in trickle down economics. It's great in theory, and if some people were less greedy, it might actually work. But it doesn't, because some people are in fact greedy, and want everything for themselves, and they don't care who they hurt to get it. Trump is one of those people.

Obviously I didn't use real numbers, and you probably still won't understand, so it really doesn't matter. People like you set us back on the evolutionary path like 100 years. It's fucking sad how dumb you are. Your mom must cry herself to sleep every night from raising such a failure.

And sure dumbass, we can talk wage growth. And it's funny, because if you actually look at wage growth, there's nothing spectacular in the Trump era:

https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/united-states-wage-growth.png?s=unitedstawaggro&v=202011052300V20200908&d1=19951113

But go ahead, parrot some more dumb shit you heard from Tucker Carlson, we all enjoy it so much. OMG the poor people are coming to take your stuffs and your freedoms!

In fact, looking at GDP growth, Trump may be the worst this country has ever seen:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/E6DC/production/_115200195_usgdp_19502-nc.png




And sure, the unemployment rate ended up lower under Trump than Obama, but I think we can both agree, it was on a steady trend down. It's almost like there was an economic crash, that caused unemployment to spike during Obama's term. Kind of like COVID. But Obama didn't say it was fake, or claim it was a conspiracy and shit, he just dealt with it. Like a President. A concept that is clearly lost on you.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/A6B0/production/_114727624_us.unemployment-nc-1.png

I think you're going to need this now more than ever:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/0b2f9423f04e98c870b9276d15dad6bf/tenor.gif?itemid=16437202

[Tgo01]

Alright follow along. Say there's 5 trillion dollars total in the US. Bezos has 3 trillion dollars. Now, there's only 2 trillion dollars for all 320m or so other Americans.

Now, Bezos increases his wealth to 4 trillion dollars, but the total dollars available only grew to 5.5 trillion dollars. Now, there's only 1.5 trillion dollars available for the rest of Americans.

So you're one of those dumb asses who believes if Jeff Bezos earns one dollar it must mean someone somewhere out there lost a dollar. Amazing.

[~Rocktar~]

So you're one of those dumb asses who believes if Jeff Bezos earns one dollar it must mean someone somewhere out there lost a dollar. Amazing.

Yep, zero sum game idiots abound.

[~Rocktar~]

Something from Prager U

Whine about the source all you want and then go look at the facts.



In 244 counties across the United States, there are more registered voters than there are people legally eligible to vote. Twenty-nine states have counties with more registered voters than legal residents. And eight states have more registered voters than actual voting-age people.

When the Supreme Court upheld Ohio’s efforts to clean up its own voter rolls in 2018, the majority opinion cited Pew Center statistics: 24 million voter registrations in the United States are either “invalid or significantly inaccurate.” And nearly 3 million people are believed to be registered to vote in more than one state.

These numbers have a shocking implication: It’s very easy to exploit our voting system. During an undercover investigation, New York City detectives made 63 attempts to cast illegal ballots based on flawed voter rolls. They were successful 61 times. Similar investigations in other cities and other states produce the same dismal results. But phony voters on the rolls is just one threat to election integrity.

Here’s example number two: ballot harvesting.

In 2016, the state of California—one of the states with more registered voters than citizens—became the first state to legalize the practice of ballot solicitation; that is, the collection and delivery of ballots by third parties. With no trace of irony, this is called “ballot harvesting.”

It works like this: In California, organizations with a clear political agenda are legally permitted to go to a location—say, a nursing home or a church, and collect—literally harvest—ballots.

The third party then transports these ballots to a polling place or an election office.

This raises an obvious question: Once this third party collects the ballots, what’s to stop them from changing them—or from just throwing out the ones they don’t like? A guilty conscience? How do we know ballot harvesters from Democratic organizations aren’t destroying Republican ballots? Or Republican harvesters aren’t destroying Democratic ballots? We don’t. We have no way of knowing.

Let’s look at one specific example. On Election Night 2018, California Central Valley Republican Congressman David Valadao held a 5,000-vote lead over his challenger, Democrat T.J. Cox. The margin was wide enough that the networks even called the race for Valadao, the Republican incumbent.

But wait!
There were late ballots still to be delivered by the third-party vote harvesters. When those votes came in, they broke so overwhelmingly for Cox (in a historically conservative district, no less) that Valadao’s 5,000-vote victory became an 862-vote loss.
Maybe that was just a coincidence. Or maybe not.

In the first major election after ballot harvesting was allowed in California, Democrats won every single congressional seat in Orange County, which had been a Republican stronghold for decades. A year earlier, no sober person would have thought that possible.

Voter corruption example number 3: Voting by non-citizens.

Should you have to be a citizen to vote? Silly question, right? It was once. Not anymore.

According to a recent poll, more than half of Democrats—53%—support granting illegal immigrants the right to vote—forget the legal ones!

Democratic National Chair Tom Perez, before working for the Obama administration, worked for a group called CASA de Maryland, which has been a longtime advocate for expanding non-citizen voting rights.

Yes, it’s true that federal law prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections. But 11 states, all run by Democrats, currently allow noncitizen voting of some kind. Cities such as Chicago and San Francisco, for example, allow noncitizens to vote in certain city-wide elections. Why? Because for progressives, demography is destiny, and many see illegal immigrants as future voters.

So, there you have it—three different ways to tamper with the vote:

Bloated voter rolls.

Ballot harvesting.

Voting by non-citizens.

These are just three ways in which the left creates a clear advantage for itself on Election Day.

The major media will tell you that corrupt voting practices either don’t exist or are so minor they don’t matter. But to believe that, you have to believe two things: That voter registration rolls are accurate and secure from fraudulent registrations, and that no one is trying to manipulate the results for political purposes. Those are two very big leaps.

Maybe you want to make those leaps because you like the results they produce. But if you care about free and fair elections, no matter which party you belong to, you need to pay attention. Or pretty soon, free and fair elections will be a quaint relic of the past.

No foreign government can undermine our democracy. But Americans can—and some do.

[Blazar]

So you're one of those dumb asses who believes if Jeff Bezos earns one dollar it must mean someone somewhere out there lost a dollar. Amazing.

Shit, is Bezos just printing the moneys now? It doesn't surprise me that you have no idea what an economy is or how it functions.

To you the economy is the stock market, when in reality, it isn't.

Oh, Rocktar, did you just create an alternate meaning for zero sum game (like your alternate facts) where we add up the total IQ of you, Tgo, and PB, and come to the sum of zero? Sounds about right. We could probably throw a few of you other chuckleheads in here and have the same sum. Shit, when checking my work, I realized that the math doesn't check out, Tgo would put you all in the negative. Damn.

[time4fun]

Something from Prager U

Whine about the source all you want and then go look at the facts.

ROFLMAO

I'm sorry, but you are the most laughable little man in the world.

Prager U is a fake news outlet. They were banned from Facebook AND Youtube (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-lawsuit-censorship/google-defeats-conservative-nonprofits-youtube-censorship-appeal-idUSKCN20K33L) for intentionally spreading false information.

Then they tried to sue and got thrown out of court like the idiots they are.

EVERYTHING you have cited in the last few days has been from a fake news source. You are, without a doubt, the saddest little man in this thread. You are such a coward that you have to hide in fake news sources because you're too afraid of reality to actually acknowledge it.

Pathetic.

[time4fun]

Notice, by the way, that there were not actual citations in that fake news article. Just a bunch of claims and numbers thrown around with nothing backing them. And then drawing wild conclusions that weren't supported by even the fake information they presented.

But you lack the reasoning skills necessary to fact check or interrogate the argument.

Seriously- grow up and come live in the real world.

[Tgo01]

Shit, is Bezos just printing the moneys now? It doesn't surprise me that you have no idea what an economy is or how it functions.

Says the moron who says dumb shit like if Bezos increases his wealth it somehow means there is less wealth out there for everyone else. Wealth is created, there isn't a finite number of dollars available in the economy. You should be so embarrassed to say something so dumb, but you've sold your soul to the left which means you get to say the stupidest shit imaginable and the other leftist tards will pat you on the back for being so smart.

[Blazar]

Notice, by the way, that there were not actual citations in that fake news article. Just a bunch of claims and numbers thrown around with nothing backing them. And then drawing wild conclusions that weren't supported by even the fake information they presented.

But you lack the reasoning skills necessary to fact check or interrogate the argument.

Seriously- grow up and come live in the real world.

I checked the 63 detectives thing, and it's true. NYC did an investigation and found that, contained in this report (https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doi/reports/pdf/2013/2013-12-30-BOE_Unit_Report.pdf):

No one ever said it doesn't ever happen or it's not possible. What we've said is, we trust in the system, it generally works. The reason? Fraud is illegal.

Why do most people not steal things? Because they'd go to jail.
Why do most people not commit voter fraud? Because they'd go to jail.

Of course there are outliers. Always will be, no matter how secure you make something, there will always be holes. It's funny though that they assume non-conservatives are the only ones who commit crimes and fraud, even when some people here have provided anecdotes of their own family member's friends committing fraud. And plenty of Trump supporters have admitted to voting twice. Logically and statistically speaking, with how close the vote was, you could expect an equal number of votes on each side to be fraudulent. Logic is lost on these fucking clowns though. Okay, so that one checks out. Voter registration roles are poorly maintained. There are several layers to the system that are supposed to catch that, such as signature and ID checks. Perhaps if we didn't run on volunteers, and actually paid people for this, or moved it to a digital system, we wouldn't have these problems.

However, the second claim... registered in two places. You mean like your pimp?


— Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary who defended Trump’s voter fraud claims this week, is registered in Rhode Island and Virginia.

— Jared Kushner, a senior adviser Trump’s son-in-law, is registered in New Jersey and New York.

— Steven Mnuchin, Treasury secretary nominee, is registered in California and New York.

— Tiffany Trump, Trump’s youngest daughter, is registered in Pennsylvania and New York.

Enough said there, yeah? Or, it doesn't apply to them, because they're rich white people and they'd never think of voting twice?

And the third claim... irrelevant to the current state of things. Non-citizens cannot vote in the federal election.

Fuck man, I'm tired from stomping on these mental midgets all day. Done for the night. Just remember Tgo and RockTar, your arguments are vapid, and you're mentally vacant.

[Tgo01]

No one ever said it doesn't ever happen or it's not possible. What we've said is, we trust in the system, it generally works. The reason? Fraud is illegal.

Holy shit! Wow. "We trust in the system because fraud is illegal!!!"

If only those poor misunderstood murderers on death row realized ahead of time that murder was illegal. Someone should have told them!

[time4fun]

When i think of the left I think of the side are the people that want the stuff for free, and don't want the rich to have it. (The way we are all taxed is crap) I am afraid with biden/harris that me as middle class am going to pay a lot more taxes. My religious freedoms will be attacked, and that open borders will destroy our country such as it is. Climate change is important however looking at stuff the agreements and pacts whatever groups we were a part of we were pretty much paying it all. That's not right. If there was a climate change group/accord whatever that was fair I would be all for it.

Okay so lets break this down.

We have these things called taxes, right? We ALL pay into this public pool, and then we get SOCIAL benefits that help us all in various ways.

Social Security? We pay for that.

Universal Health Care? We would pay for that too (but less because that's how insurance works)

Universal access to education? We would all pay for that.

Food Stamps: We ALL pay for that, and those of us who need it then have it. It's an insurance policy.

Kind of like: Roads, public education, public health centers, etc.


And, as it turns out, we are ALL better off when the American people are: healthier, more well educated, not hungry, and not homeless. And our economy is strong when there is less income inequality and less poverty.

So here's the reality of the situation: Not only is helping people get access to education, food, housing, and healthcare the *moral* thing to do. It actually turns out it's the best policy approach. Which means, actively trying to STOP those things from happening is both grossly immoral AND hurts us all. It's really a pretty straight forward situation.

But, as you and I are both devout Christians, let me also remind you of some Scripture. God was VERY clear in His instructions to us: give what you have to those who have need. Treat immigrants as though they were Christ Himself and GIVE THEM CITIZENSHIP. Jesus had nothing to say about gay rights, and He had nothing to say about abortion. He had A LOT to say about how we treat the poor and immigrants though. We were instructed to show the world the Word and Love of God, but we are to do that by embodying those things- NOT by forcing it upon people.

The GOP doesn't support he word of God. The positions run ABSOLUTELY counter to what God and Christ commanded. They support Christian *dominance*, not the word of God.

You will be forgiven because all of us who ask for it are given it, but that's not a free pass to ignore what God tells us because it's too hard or not convenient.


Ezekiel 47:21-22 – The aliens shall be to you as citizens, and shall also be allotted an inheritance.
Jeremiah 7:5-7 – “If you do not oppress the alien…then I will dwell with you in this place…”
Deuteronomy 24:14 – “You shall not withhold the wages of poor and needy laborers, whether other Israelites or aliens who reside in your land...”
Deuteronomy 10:18-19 – “For the Lord your God...loves the strangers, providing them food and clothing. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”
Leviticus 19:33-34 and 24:22 – When the alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”


Mark 10:21-22
Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, ‘You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.’ When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

Luke 16:19-25
There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who longed to satisfy his hunger with what fell from the rich man’s table; even the dogs would come and lick his sores. The poor man died and was carried away by the angels to be with Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried.

Deuteronomy 15:11 ESV / 614 helpful votes
For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’

Proverbs 14:31 ESV / 553 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.

Proverbs 28:27 ESV / 385 helpful votes
Whoever gives to the poor will not want, but he who hides his eyes will get many a curse.

Deuteronomy 15:7-8 ESV / 258 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
“If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be.

Deuteronomy 15:10 ESV / 194 helpful votes
You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake.

[Solkern]

Shit, is Bezos just printing the moneys now? It doesn't surprise me that you have no idea what an economy is or how it functions.

To you the economy is the stock market, when in reality, it isn't.

Oh, Rocktar, did you just create an alternate meaning for zero sum game (like your alternate facts) where we add up the total IQ of you, Tgo, and PB, and come to the sum of zero? Sounds about right. We could probably throw a few of you other chuckleheads in here and have the same sum. Shit, when checking my work, I realized that the math doesn't check out, Tgo would put you all in the negative. Damn.


They have no clue how finance works. Most people have no clue and it’s obviously apparent here with these idiots.

[Bhaalizmo]

You won't argue it because you can't. When are guns seized in the US, or have ever been seized in the US? At the airport? I mean sure, you can't take a gun on an airplane, go figure!

You actually can take a gun on a plane, at least with a CCP. Not sure about standard permit. Check the gun in at the airport, they put it under the plane with your luggage. You and your gun fly somewhere on the same plane albeit in separate compartments, then you get it returned to you at the destination airport.

[Solkern]

You actually can take a gun on a plane, at least with a CCP. Not sure about standard permit. Check the gun in at the airport, they put it under the plane with your luggage. You and your gun fly somewhere on the same plane albeit in separate compartments, then you get it returned to you at the destination airport.

I’m pretty sure he meant, bring it on the plane with you, not under the plane with the checked in luggage.

[Bhaalizmo]

I’m pretty sure he meant, bring it on the plane with you, not under the plane with the checked in luggage.

Oh. I wasn't

Carry on.

[Solkern]

Oh. I wasn't

Carry on.

Huh? I’m referring to what Blazar said.

[Solkern]

Biden takes the lead in Georgia!

[beldannon5]

Well of course he has.

[Fierna]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmG4Tx2VcAIfF70?format=jpg&name=medium

[BriarFox]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmG4Tx2VcAIfF70?format=jpg&name=medium
Lol. Exactly.

[time4fun]

Biden takes the lead in Georgia!

Philly has about 50k votes, which Biden has been winning 9-1. When they account announce half of those, Biden will pull ahead

[Solkern]

Philly has about 50k votes, which Biden has been winning 9-1. When they account announce half of those, Biden will pull ahead

PA has 130k+ mail in votes still to be counted, which are pretty much 75%+ blue if they follow the same trend they’ve been following this entire election.
He’s going to win PA and GA

[beldannon5]

Of course he will as planned. Er I mean um

[BriarFox]

Of course he will as planned. Er I mean um

Trump losing is not a sign of a conspiracy. Trump whining about it and throwing a hissyfit is just Trump being a sore loser (and a bit of a dangerous one - note the armed protestors in Arizona or all the talk of Civil War and the Boogaloo).

[beldannon5]

yeah i saw those armed protesters having a prayer meeting. If there was a civil war the right would win. However there won't be nor should there be. Oh please it was set up perfectly for the democrats. Let me say as I have said before when all the votes are counted and all the legal stuff is done if Biden is declared the winner I will support it. However i also believe in 2016 the democrats were 100 percent sure that hillary would win, so no need for contingency plan. Do i believe there was one this time possibly possibly not, however I defintely believe it was possible. You won't agree with this and that's okay. Not going to call you names or things like that because that's just dumb. Bottom line is I feel there is some questionable stuff and until we have a better way of doing all this there will always be questions.

[BriarFox]

yeah i saw those armed protesters having a prayer meeting. If there was a civil war the right would win. However there won't be nor should there be. Oh please it was set up perfectly for the democrats. Let me say as I have said before when all the votes are counted and all the legal stuff is done if Biden is declared the winner I will support it. However i also believe in 2016 the democrats were 100 percent sure that hillary would win, so no need for contingency plan. Do i believe there was one this time possibly possibly not, however I defintely believe it was possible. You won't agree with this and that's okay. Not going to call you names or things like that because that's just dumb. Bottom line is I feel there is some questionable stuff and until we have a better way of doing all this there will always be questions.

I find it highly unlikely that there was a nationwide conspiracy to elect a Democratic president. If there had been, this would have been one hell of a way to botch it.

[BriarFox]

Also, looking at these results, I think Trump could have won this election handily -- had he not fucked it up by being himself.

[Fierna]

Honestly, going by how razor thin these wins are by Biden, if Covid didn’t hit it would’ve been a MASSIVE RED WAVE of EPIC porportions.

[caelric]

Also, looking at these results, I think Trump could have won this election handily -- had he not fucked it up by being himself.

As was said, if there was no 'vid, Trump would have crushed this election.

ETA: will be interesting to see how 2024 plays out.

[Gelston]

Also, looking at these results, I think Trump could have won this election handily -- had he not fucked it up by being himself.

That only shows the shit tier quality of the candidates he faced, both Hillary and Biden.

[Methais]

none of you really care about election integrity as long as it benefits your party.

This is correct.

[drauz]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1324473707121778688


The best thing for America’s future is for
@realDonaldTrump
to go to total war over this election to expose all of the fraud, cheating, dead/no longer in state voters, that has been going on for far too long.

It’s time to clean up this mess & stop looking like a banana republic!

https://e.lvme.me/6vtbqn5.jpg

[BriarFox]

That only shows the shit tier quality of the candidates he faced, both Hillary and Biden.

Totally fair. Edit: I’m disappointed that ranked choice voting got voted down in MA. Maybe next time.

[gemstonefella]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/joshy8/crazy_right_wing_preacher_dropping_bars/

[gemstonefella]

Biden moves ahead in Pennsylvania.

[Solkern]

Biden takes the lead in PA!!

[Solkern]

Biden moves ahead in Philadelphia.

Fuck you for beating me to it! Haha

[gemstonefella]

Fuck you for beating me to it! Haha



Yeah, but my dumbass said Philadelphia! True, but dumb...lol.

[time4fun]

This four year nightmare is almost over.

But not before we lost hundreds of thousands of American lives to that man's sociopathy.

I shudder to think of how many people are going to die from his recklessly evil rallies.

[Blazar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/joshy8/crazy_right_wing_preacher_dropping_bars/

Dude, WTF was that shit?

[Keller]

That only shows the shit tier quality of the candidates he faced, both Hillary and Biden.

There is that, but I think BriarFox has a good take.

Had Trump combined his cult of personality with effective governance he would have been unstoppable. He also would have governed effectively, so there would have been that.

[Blazar]

This is correct.

So are you mad at your sister's friend for committing fraud by voting twice? Just curious how outraged you are at this?

[audioserf]

This four year nightmare is almost over.

But not before we lost hundreds of thousands of American lives to that man's sociopathy.

I shudder to think of how many people are going to die from his recklessly evil rallies.

What makes you think he's going to stop having rallies

[gemstonefella]

What makes you think he's going to stop having rallies



Because he'll have to pay for them now. And dude is broke.

[SHAFT]

This is correct.

Get over it, Trump lost.

Prepare for democrats to control or at least split the senate come January.

[gemstonefella]

Trump campaign just straight up lying to the public....as always:


U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond, a George W. Bush appointee, dismissed the request by saying, “As stated during today’s emergency injunction hearing, in light of the parties’ agreement, plaintiff’s motion is denied without prejudice," Reuters reported.

Diamond said the Trump campaign admitted its observers had been allowed to witness the counting but alleged it had not been given equal access as Democrats. He urged both parties to come to an agreement and they eventually decided on 60 observers for both sides, according to WHYY-TV in Philadelphia.

"The federal court denied the Trump campaign's motion," the Philadelphia City Commissioners said in a statement after the ruling, WPTI-TV in Philadelphia reported. "The City Board of Elections agreed to keep the barrier for all observers where it is - at 6 feet for now, and to continue to admit observers in compliance with the law, but no more than 60 per side. The President and his campaign representatives had falsely claimed throughout the day that their representatives were not allowed in the room. But their counsel admitted at the hearing, after questions from the court, that they had several representatives in the room."

[Fortybox]

Get over it, Trump lost.

Prepare for democrats to control or at least split the senate come January.

Dems won't control the senate.

[Fortybox]

Biden takes the lead in PA!!

Settle down there. They are counting votes past the deadline. The Supreme Court will strike it down.

[gemstonefella]

Settle down there. They are counting votes past the deadline. The Supreme Court will strike it down.


All votes received after election day are being kept segregated, still sealed and not counted.

These are all votes receieved by mail early, or on election day.

[BriarFox]

Settle down there. They are counting votes past the deadline. The Supreme Court will strike it down.

Votes are traditionally counted long past election day. Each state sets its own rules. And the Supreme Court will only hear a case if it has jurisdiction and it's gone through the appeals process -- which is highly unlikely.

[gemstonefella]

Votes are traditionally counted long past election day. Each state sets its own rules. And the Supreme Court will only hear a case if it has jurisdiction and it's gone through the appeals process -- which is highly unlikely.


The SC already ruled on this...it was 4-4 and kicked back down...and then they refused to hear it again.

[Solkern]

Settle down there. They are counting votes past the deadline. The Supreme Court will strike it down.

Counting votes past the deadline? Pretty sure that have 3 days after the day of the election to count votes, according to PA law. Try harder. Just man up, accept defeat and move on.

[Back]

Settle down there. They are counting votes past the deadline. The Supreme Court will strike it down.

Source?

[Solkern]

Source?

The same as his wide spread voter fraud source. His imagination.

[ClydeR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIsiZHNBmQ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIsiZHNBmQ0







https://i.imgur.com/OVlfh0L.png
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1324715320251211779


If Biden wins by 306/232, would it be a massive landslide victory?

[Fortybox]

Votes are traditionally counted long past election day. Each state sets its own rules. And the Supreme Court will only hear a case if it has jurisdiction and it's gone through the appeals process -- which is highly unlikely.

PA made changes in 2019 that are likely unconstitutional. That is what will be litigated. Those votes will be thrown out and Trump will likely win PA.

Furthermore, when you have "batching" happening in PA where 100% of the ballots are in favor of Biden, that is extremely unlikely and should be contested.

This board has heard nonstop from ilk like you for the past 4 years about contesting the 2016 election. Yet when fraud is right before your face you ignore it.

Trump still has a path to victory. We'll see what the courts have to say.

[SHAFT]

PA made changes in 2019 that are likely unconstitutional. That is what will be litigated. Those votes will be thrown out and Trump will likely win PA.

Furthermore, when you have "batching" happening in PA where 100% of the ballots are in favor of Biden, that is extremely unlikely and should be contested.

This board has heard nonstop from ilk like you for the past 4 years about contesting the 2016 election. Yet when fraud is right before your face you ignore it.

Trump still has a path to victory. We'll see what the courts have to say.

Don’t be a retard. Trump lost, get over it.

[gemstonefella]

PA made changes in 2019 that are likely unconstitutional. That is what will be litigated. Those votes will be thrown out and Trump will likely win PA.

Furthermore, when you have "batching" happening in PA where 100% of the ballots are in favor of Biden, that is extremely unlikely and should be contested.

This board has heard nonstop from ilk like you for the past 4 years about contesting the 2016 election. Yet when fraud is right before your face you ignore it.

Trump still has a path to victory. We'll see what the courts have to say.


Like I said above, the SC already kicked this back down and refused to hear it again.

[gemstonefella]

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/19/922411176/supreme-court-rules-pennsylvania-can-count-ballots-received-after-election-day

[Fortybox]

The SC already ruled on this...it was 4-4 and kicked back down...and then they refused to hear it again.

Wrong. They ruled not to expedite.

[SHAFT]

Votes are traditionally counted long past election day. Each state sets its own rules. And the Supreme Court will only hear a case if it has jurisdiction and it's gone through the appeals process -- which is highly unlikely.

NC will be counting for another week. Funny, republicans aren’t bitching about NC are they?

[Fortybox]

Source?

Anonymous sources.

[gemstonefella]

NC will be counting for another week. Funny, republicans aren’t bitching about NC are they?


Of course they're not. I guess we should just stop counting in Nevada and Arizona also.

[BriarFox]

NC will be counting for another week. Funny, republicans aren’t bitching about NC are they?

What a group of fucking whiners. It's pathetic.

[Parkbandit]

PB said you are agnostic, so you don’t believe in god,

This is factually incorrect.

Go back and re-read it.

[gemstonefella]

What a group of fucking whiners. It's pathetic.


Trump's the biggest whiner of anyone, they are all just chips off the 'ole block.

[Parkbandit]

Says the moron who says dumb shit like if Bezos increases his wealth it somehow means there is less wealth out there for everyone else. Wealth is created, there isn't a finite number of dollars available in the economy. You should be so embarrassed to say something so dumb, but you've sold your soul to the left which means you get to say the stupidest shit imaginable and the other leftist tards will pat you on the back for being so smart.

I thought I was missing some money last month.. now I know that Jeff Bezos stole it from me!

This is right out of the Economics 101 with Backlash class....

[gemstonefella]

I thought I was missing some money last month.. now I know that Jeff Bezos stole it from me!

This is right out of the Economics 101 with Backlash class....


I'm still waiting for my check from Soros.

[Parkbandit]

What a group of fucking whiners. It's pathetic.

Irony.

Still nothing compared to 2016.. amirite?

Trump lost the election. It's over.

Let's all get back to work and move on.

[Solkern]

This is factually incorrect.


Go back and re-read it.

You’re right, my bad. Still doesn’t change the fact that an agnostic can believe in the existence of a god.

[Solkern]

Irony.

Still nothing compared to 2016.. amirite?

Trump lost the election. It's over.

Let's all get back to work and move on.

Yup, we get to do this shit all over again in a few years! Lol

[BriarFox]

Irony.

Still nothing compared to 2016.. amirite?

Trump lost the election. It's over.

Let's all get back to work and move on.

People can just cry all they want. The really pathetic thing, and the difference from 2016, is that Trump, his family, and his supporters are declaring that this is all a giant fraud and that he hasn't really lost. That's whining taken to a whole different (and politically dangerous) level.

[Parkbandit]

I'm still waiting for my check from Soros.

Oh, I use Amazon for everything.. so it's not a surprise that he's probably going to be the first trillionaire.

But I'm not dumb enough to "think" that "Bezos increases his wealth to 4 trillion dollars, but the total dollars available only grew to 5.5 trillion dollars. Now, there's only 1.5 trillion dollars available for the rest of Americans." because that would take someone with absolutely nothing going on upstairs in the head to believe. I would call him retarded, but I heard that's not nice... so how about just extremely stupid as fuck.

[ClydeR]

NC will be counting for another week. Funny, republicans aren’t bitching about NC are they?


And what about Alaska? If there's going to be fraud anywhere, that would be the place. They're further behind than any other state. They've only counted 50%. With precincts scattered all over Hell's half acre, there's no telling how much mischief would be possible.

[Parkbandit]

People can just cry all they want. The really pathetic thing, and the difference from 2016, is that Trump, his family, and his supporters are declaring that this is all a giant fraud and that he hasn't really lost. That's whining taken to a whole different (and politically dangerous) level.

Whatever makes you sleep at night. 2016 will still hold fond memories of you crying real tears and being so upset.

No one will ever beat the 4 years of liberal whining that 2016 brought about.

You just don't realize it.. because it's hard to see through all the tears.

[gemstonefella]

Oh, I use Amazon for everything.. so it's not a surprise that he's probably going to be the first trillionaire.

But I'm not dumb enough to "think" that "Bezos increases his wealth to 4 trillion dollars, but the total dollars available only grew to 5.5 trillion dollars. Now, there's only 1.5 trillion dollars available for the rest of Americans." because that would take someone with absolutely nothing going on upstairs in the head to believe. I would call him retarded, but I heard that's not nice... so how about just extremely stupid as fuck.

Impossible to argue with, that's a pretty whack take.

[Parkbandit]

Impossible to argue with, that's a pretty whack take.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MilkyWaterloggedBoar-size_restricted.gif

A liberal friend of mine asked me what I thought about Bezos becoming the world's first trillionaire soon. I honestly don't have a problem with it.. and Bezos' politics are pretty leftist.

But, here is a guy who worked hard, created a product from nothing and is now on the cusp of being the richest guy in the world.

I'm ok with it.

[BriarFox]

Whatever makes you sleep at night. 2016 will still hold fond memories of you crying real tears and being so upset.

No one will ever beat the 4 years of liberal whining that 2016 brought about.

You just don't realize it.. because it's hard to see through all the tears.

LOL. I posted my comment after Trump's election in this thread earlier. You've just convinced yourself that it was full of tears. Your shaky grasp on reality explains why you vote Republican.

[Parkbandit]

LOL. I posted my comment after Trump's election in this thread earlier. You've just convinced yourself that it was full of tears. Your shaky grasp on reality explains why you vote Republican.

Like I previously said to a friend... being a liberal doesn't take intelligence or common sense.. it just takes an undying suspension of belief and doing what you are told to think.

You are the perfect liberal.

Now, go out there and celebrate, Mr. Sensitive!

I'm going back to work.

[ClydeR]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmJbxfsXgAE3Hz3?format=jpg&name=small
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1324722150503305218


Georgia. Yes, Georgia needs a recount. It is too close not to have one. Simple tabulation errors could sway the outcome.
Regarding "harvested" ballots, I'm not sure what they want to do about it after the ballots have been opened and counted. How can you tell which ballot came from which voter?

Pennsylvania. It's over. Resistance if futile.

Nevada. LOL.

Arizona. Good point on Arizona. Trump may win it. The outcome will be very close. Fox and the AP should not have called it. It's why Fox and the AP show Biden with 264 electoral votes, but most other media outlets show Biden with just 253 electoral votes. If Nevada, which has 6 electoral votes, is called for Biden today, then Fox and the AP will either have to call the whole thing for Biden or reverse themselves on Arizona.

[caelric]

One thing that has come from this: I was absolutely shocked at how fair CNN has been about elections reporting. CNN has been very reluctant to call states for Biden before it was truly a sure thing. I really expected different from CNN, and I'm pretty impressed by how they handled this.

It's almost as if a group of execs at CNN got together a week or so ago, and said 'hey guys, we're known for fake news, so let's try and actually be fair during this last week of the election'

[SHAFT]

Like I previously said to a friend... being a liberal doesn't take intelligence or common sense.. it just takes an undying suspension of belief and doing what you are told to think.

You are the perfect liberal.

Now, go out there and celebrate, Mr. Sensitive!

I'm going back to work.

Cry some more, scumbag. Trump lost! Get over it!

[Seran]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmJbxfsXgAE3Hz3?format=jpg&name=small
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1324722150503305218


Georgia. Yes, Georgia needs a recount. It is too close not to have one. Simple tabulation errors could sway the outcome.
Regarding "harvested" ballots, I'm not sure what they want to do about it after the ballots have been opened and counted. How can you tell which ballot came from which voter?

Pennsylvania. It's over. Resistance if futile.

Nevada. LOL.

Arizona. Good point on Arizona. Trump may win it. The outcome will be very close. Fox and the AP should not have called it. It's why Fox and the AP show Biden with 264 electoral votes, but most other media outlets show Biden with just 253 electoral votes. If Nevada, which has 6 electoral votes, is called for Biden today, then Fox and the AP will either have to call the whole thing for Biden or reverse themselves on Arizona.

Say goodbye to our Orange Overlord and say hello to our Demented Democrat

[Parkbandit]

Cry some more, scumbag. Trump lost! Get over it!

Um. I am over it.

Like I told you snowflakes back in 2016.. whomever is President, your life will still go on. It won't change much.

So much for the Armageddon you were told would happen with Trump as President. See? We managed through it, even if your fee fees were hurt.

Now, get out there and have fun today. This will be the first time in 4 years you were happy.. and I, for one, am glad you got through this.

Good job Shaft!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/j6ZReIODqJXh5sPLVq/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Say goodbye to our Orange Overlord and say hello to our Demented Democrat

Hopefully the Senate will stay in GOP hands and Biden will just sit in the Oval Office and do what he's told to do.

He's a placeholder for 2024.

He's like Jimmy Carter.

Hopefully we can find a new Ronald Reagan in the meantime.

Also to add to 2024 wish list of no thank yous: No Trumps.

[Seran]

Um. I am over it.

Like I told you snowflakes back in 2016.. whomever is President, your life will still go on. It won't change much.

So much for the Armageddon you were told would happen with Trump as President. See? We managed through it, even if your fee fees were hurt.

Now, get out there and have fun today. This will be the first time in 4 years you were happy.. and I, for one, am glad you got through this.

Good job Shaft!

https://media0.giphy.com/media/j6ZReIODqJXh5sPLVq/giphy.gif

Hundreds of thousands of Americans are dead, our democratic elections system is in shambles, our closest allies from WW2 no longer trust us, but Russian and North Korea have our backs..

Yeah that's an Armageddon.

[Fortybox]

Hopefully the Senate will stay in GOP hands and Biden will just sit in the Oval Office and do what he's told to do.

He's a placeholder for 2024.

He's like Jimmy Carter.

Hopefully we can find a new Ronald Reagan in the meantime.

Also to add to 2024 wish list of no thank yous: No Trumps.

Yeah, there isn't much to celebrate here in terms of progress. Liberals aren't going to get the free stuff they hoped for.

I still think Trump has a path here but we'll see what the courts say.

[Parkbandit]

Hundreds of thousands of Americans are dead, our democratic elections system is in shambles, our closest allies from WW2 no longer trust us, but Russian and North Korea have our backs..

Yeah that's an Armageddon.

Thanks to President Trump's quick action, we saved a couple million.

You're welcome America!

[SHAFT]

Thanks to President Trump's quick action, we saved a couple million.

You're welcome America!

Holy fuck you cultists will believe anything, won’t you?

Just dawned on me... the MAGA’s never got their wall hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[time4fun]

One thing that has come from this: I was absolutely shocked at how fair CNN has been about elections reporting. CNN has been very reluctant to call states for Biden before it was truly a sure thing. I really expected different from CNN, and I'm pretty impressed by how they handled this.

It's almost as if a group of execs at CNN got together a week or so ago, and said 'hey guys, we're known for fake news, so let's try and actually be fair during this last week of the election'

Can you point to any actual unbiased studies or citations of CNN being a source of fake news?

MSNBC was actually better on election night than CNN candidly. I generally won't let us watch MSNBC on an election night (Or at all if it isn't Rachel Maddow), but the difference between the way MSNBC was giving important historical context and deep diving into the numbers while CNN was giving only the most high level information with very little to tell you how things were going relative to 2016 was night and day. We ended up going back and forth between MSNBC and Fox.

Though CNN started getting more useful after election night.

[time4fun]

Thanks to President Trump's quick action, we saved a couple million.

You're welcome America!

You know that stat was based on a study that projected American deaths if we did *nothing*, right?

4% of the world's population. Over 20% of the global COVID deaths.

Yeah, he did a great job.

[gemstonefella]

Thanks to President Trump's quick action, we saved a couple million.

You're welcome America!

Stahp.

[SHAFT]

You know that stat was based on a study that projected American deaths if we did *nothing*, right?

4% of the world's population. Over 20% of the global COVID deaths.

Yeah, he did a great job.

Trump’s tenure as president was a total failure, unless you’re rich af, that is.

Not surprising his handling of covid-19 was a total failure, too.

He was given a political lifeline with covid-19 and if he would’ve put the people and the country above his own re-election efforts, he’d have won this election.

Honestly, I fucking hate trump, but if he would’ve treated covid-19 with respect and handled it for the good of the country, I wouldn’t have argued if he won re-election. I would’ve voted against him for sure, but I could see how he won.

Alas, trump never puts anyone above himself, so here we are. Lame Duck Donnie!

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, there isn't much to celebrate here in terms of progress. Liberals aren't going to get the free stuff they hoped for.

Hopefully if the Republicans hold the Senate.


I still think Trump has a path here but we'll see what the courts say.

I wouldn't hold much hope in that.

[Back]

Also to add to 2024 wish list of no thank yous: No Trumps.

Amen.

[Parkbandit]

Holy fuck you cultists will believe anything, won’t you?

Just dawned on me... the MAGA’s never got their wall hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

400+ miles done.

I'm good with that.

[Parkbandit]

MSNBC was actually better on election night than CNN candidly. I generally won't let us watch MSNBC on an election night (Or at all if it isn't Rachel Maddow), but the difference between the way MSNBC was giving important historical context and deep diving into the numbers while CNN was giving only the most high level information with very little to tell you how things were going relative to 2016 was night and day. We ended up going back and forth between MSNBC and Fox.

Though CNN started getting more useful after election night.

Holy shit.. can you possibly be any dumber?

Seriously. Rachel Maddow? And you criticize anyone watching Fox or Tucker?

Shut the fuck up with your retarded self, Andraste.

[Parkbandit]

Trump’s tenure as president was a total failure, unless you’re rich af, that is.

Not surprising his handling of covid-19 was a total failure, too.

He was given a political lifeline with covid-19 and if he would’ve put the people and the country above his own re-election efforts, he’d have won this election.

Honestly, I fucking hate trump, but if he would’ve treated covid-19 with respect and handled it for the good of the country, I wouldn’t have argued if he won re-election. I would’ve voted against him for sure, but I could see how he won.

Alas, trump never puts anyone above himself, so here we are. Lame Duck Donnie!

Speaking of retarded.

Damn. The only thing that was factual in this stupidity was "I fucking hate trump".

No shit kid.. we know.

[Parkbandit]

Amen.

See! Even Backlash and I agree on something political!

We're already coming together!

THANKS BIDEN!

[Ashliana]

400+ miles done.

I'm good with that.

Uh, no. Less than 10 miles of new wall -- where there had been none before -- was erected. 95% of the work was an existing wall being reinforced. You were sold a false bill of goods which Trump didn't deliver, nor did Mexico pay for what little was done.

Also:


Trump lost the election. It's over.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/029/831/spongebobmeme.jpg

[Gelston]

At least we'll get back to the Obama era toughness on immigration.

[gemstonefella]

At least we'll get back to the Obama era toughness on immigration.


Yup, it kills me when people claim Biden is for open borders.

[Seran]

Hopefully the Senate will stay in GOP hands and Biden will just sit in the Oval Office and do what he's told to do.

He's a placeholder for 2024.

He's like Jimmy Carter.

Hopefully we can find a new Ronald Reagan in the meantime.

Also to add to 2024 wish list of no thank yous: No Trumps.

The seat count is a hell of a lot closer than it was before, at least before the results of the projected run off. Can't say I'd not welcome a continuance of business of the country only succeeding if it has bipartisan support. At least then we have less opportunity for the country to hurl wildly in one direction.

Still hope to see the maximum tenure of a Supreme Justice limited to 15 years

[Gelston]

Still hope to see the maximum tenure of a Supreme Justice limited to 15 years

That would take a Constitutional amendment that would never be ratified.

[Seran]

Yup, it kills me when people claim Biden is for open borders.

He's not and it's important to note a lot of immigrants aren't either. What they are for is a reasonable immigration and path to citizenship. They're pretty tired of their friends and relatives being collectively referred to as criminals and rapists

[drauz]

Also to add to 2024 wish list of no thank yous: No Trumps.

Didn't he already say he was going to run if he loses this election?

[Alfster]

Didn't he already say he was going to run if he loses this election?

I'm finally understanding all of those tweets....Trump 2020, 2024, 2028 and beyond...he knew he wouldnt win

[Methais]

so i am guessing that all you on the left, if the bad orange man goes away, expect your lives to be awesome and you can prosper like you couldn't under Trump and everything will be SWELL? Or is it more just orange man bad something else has to be better?

A lot of people are going to have no idea what to do with themselves after 4 years of having their entire existence completely consumed by TDS and letting it dictate their lives 24/7 and letting it literally become their personality.

We even have a few like that who post here.

[Parkbandit]

Uh, no. Less than 10 miles of new wall -- where there had been none before -- was erected. 95% of the work was an existing wall being reinforced. You were sold a false bill of goods which Trump didn't deliver, nor did Mexico pay for what little was done.

I'm fine with "In September 2019, Trump said he planned to build 450–500 miles (720–800 km) of new wall by the end of 2020.[6] By October 29 2020, 400 miles (640 km) had been built, all but about nine miles being replacement of existing outdated or dilapidated barriers."


Also:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/029/831/spongebobmeme.jpg

Sorry.. I just don't put that much emotion into politics, let alone Presidential elections. I know you are probably upset and distraught that I didn't.. but don't worry It, you are safe now.

[Parkbandit]

Didn't he already say he was going to run if he loses this election?

Unless (if the election results in a Biden Presidency) Biden completely pulls a Jimmy Carter and fucks everything up.. I doubt there will be much appetite for another Trump Presidency.

If the Senate stays in Republican control, we won't see much getting done as far as SCOTUS packing, Green New Deal, Medicare for All, Bidencare, etc...

2022, hopefully it'll be another midterm where Republicans take over both House and get super majority in Senate.. then they can get the country back on the right track.

[Methais]

Wow man. Wealth inequality has gotten better with a good economy? I won't bother with any of the others... but really? Do you live under a fucking rock or did your last autoerotic asphyxiation session destroy your last functional brain cell?

You should probably check your blood pressure.

[Solkern]

They are saying we might have to wait till Sunday for these states to finish counting.

[Methais]

It is absolutely shameful how Trump and his supporters are harassing the elected and volunteer American poll workers with claims they are somehow cheating. These people, republican and democrat alike, are busting their asses in one of the most voted elections during a fucking pandemic. Their integrity is being called into question because the sore loser and his gullible army can't handle reality.

Absolutely fucking shameful.

You're literally the last person on this entire forum who should talk shit about anyone else being gullible about anything. :lol:


Fuck Democrats and Republicans. Democrats are batshit insane and Republicans are cowards allowing the Democrats to make them fear being called a racist for anything they do.


This is correct.

[Back]

You're literally the last person on this entire forum who should talk shit about anyone else being gullible about anything. :lol:

You're literally the last person on this entire forum who should lecture anyone else about anything. :lol::lol::lol:

[Parkbandit]

You're literally the last person on this entire forum who should talk shit about anyone else being gullible about anything. :lol:


Wait, wait, wait.... so there will be no war when guns are more regulated isn't true?!??!?!?!?!?!?

WHAT!?!?!?

[caelric]

You're literally the last person on this entire forum who should lecture anyone else about anything. :lol::lol::lol:

You are the forum court idiot. You have no room to actually talk about anything. You just provide comic relief.

Perhaps the only person worse than you is time4fun/bhaalizimo/whichever other alt she wants to use. And that's actually pathetic, rather than comic relief.

[Gelston]

They are saying we might have to wait till Sunday for these states to finish counting.

Meh, they should just call it already. To be honest, any losing candidate in the past could have dragged it out, except for the ones that lost astoundingly, such as Jimmy Carter or Mondale against Reagan. They generally conceded and just let it be.

[Ashliana]

I'm fine with "In September 2019, Trump said he planned to build 450–500 miles (720–800 km) of new wall by the end of 2020.[6] By October 29 2020, 400 miles (640 km) had been built, all but about nine miles being replacement of existing outdated or dilapidated barriers."

So you're fine with what I said: 9 miles of wall, not the 400 you claimed. You got conned, and you're happy with it. Perfect.



Sorry.. I just don't put that much emotion into politics, let alone Presidential elections. I know you are probably upset and distraught that I didn't.. but don't worry It, you are safe now.

Tell us about how little "emotion" you put into politics after you've obsessively posted here, how you sent yet another rep message with swearing in response, etc. N

Nobody's buying it, my deluded friend.

[Taernath]

Meh, they should just call it already. To be honest, any losing candidate in the past could have dragged it out, except for the ones that lost astoundingly, such as Jimmy Carter or Mondale against Reagan. They generally conceded and just let it be.

Did anyone expect Trump to concede at any point though? It's completely on-brand for him.

[time4fun]

Meh, they should just call it already. To be honest, any losing candidate in the past could have dragged it out, except for the ones that lost astoundingly, such as Jimmy Carter or Mondale against Reagan. They generally conceded and just let it be.

That requires them to value the state of our democracy more than their own self-interests.

So....yeah.

[Fierna]

Sources close to the White House said some senior officials inside the White House and the campaign are beginning to quietly back away from Trump, in acts of self-preservation, as the returns in Pennsylvania and Georgia indicate the President will not win reelection.

"It's over," one key adviser to the administration said of the race. The adviser went on to say there are concerns about what Trump will do, beyond the question of whether he will concede the race.

"God. Who knows," the adviser said when asked what Trump might do next, conceding there were multiple officials in the campaign and the White House who were shaking their heads after Trump's litany of false statements Thursday evening in the White House briefing room.

https://media.tenor.com/images/9398ceea9ee006aa1070227b6fc7fa80/tenor.gif

[time4fun]

Yeah, at this point the only way for Trump to reach 270 is to lose 100lbs.

[BriarFox]

Yeah, at this point the only way for Trump to reach 270 is to lose 100lbs.

:rofl:

[Gelston]

I wonder if either of you ever bitch about people body shaming others.

Either way, at least no one on the board is blaming third party voters like T4F did in 2016.

[Alashir]

Yeah, at this point the only way for Trump to reach 270 is to lose 100lbs.

I'll just leave this here...

https://imgur.com/gallery/UeY8sRy

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Lol holy shit these forums are terrible. (referring to how cumbersome it is to paste a photo, not the racist/homophobes who dwell within)

[time4fun]

I wonder if either of you ever bitch about people body shaming others.

Either way, at least no one on the board is blaming third party voters like T4F did in 2016.

Oh sorry, was I being too mean to the man who is currently trying to undermine the nation's faith in our democratic process for his own twisted and selfish reasons and who never misses a chance to comment on how a woman looks before commenting on what they say?


Must work on that.

[Tgo01]

This four year nightmare is almost over.

But not before we lost hundreds of thousands of American lives to that man's sociopathy.

I shudder to think of how many people are going to die from his recklessly evil rallies.

You mean people won’t magically stop dying if Biden wins? That’s odd. Almost as if the president can’t stop a virus.

[time4fun]

Georgia just held a press conference. Based on where the outstanding ballots are, Biden's lead is expected to increase a bit. But the state will definitely go to a recount.

[Methais]

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841?s=20

https://i.imgur.com/KrApv8t.png (https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841?s)

[Fortybox]

Hopefully if the Republicans hold the Senate.



I wouldn't hold much hope in that.

There wasn't this blue wave. The house actually lost seats despite the flat out lies these pollsters were trying to lead people to believe. It doesn't add up and I think Trump has a strong case for voter fraud.

What's sad is people on this forum screaming for 4 years about corruption yet when it's right in front of their face, they ignore it (even sanction it) simply because of their hatred toward Trump.

[Tgo01]

Here is the cheating Democrat city of Philadelphia forcing their poll observers to stand over a hundred feet away and use fucking binoculars to try to even see what they were doing:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmKWMt-XEAAvrnG?format=jpg&name=large

Blazar: "LOL! Where are the images showing it's over a hundred feet? That's not over a hundred feet! LOL! Do you even know what 100 feet looks like?"

What a fucking moron you are, Blazar. Keep defending this obvious fraud. Now that Roberts isn't needed for a 5-4 majority in the Supreme Court maybe some of this bullshit will actually be overturned.

[Fortybox]

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841?s=20

https://i.imgur.com/KrApv8t.png (https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841?s)

It wasn't a glitch.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841?s=20

https://i.imgur.com/KrApv8t.png (https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1324783531139235841?s)

If Michigan had any integrity at all they would order a state wide hand recount. But since Democrats control the state they won't and Democrats everywhere will cheer on this decision because like I said yesterday Democrats don't give a single shit about election integrity as long as it benefits them.

[Fortybox]

A couple whistleblowers are coming forward, willing to testify under oath, about ballot backdating in PA.

[Methais]

It wasn't a glitch.

What happwned then? I haven't kept up with much of this at all. I'm just waiting for results and a little news here and there becauase this shit is too exhausting.

[Gelston]

Oh sorry, was I being too mean to the man who is currently trying to undermine the nation's faith in our democratic process for his own twisted and selfish reasons and who never misses a chance to comment on how a woman looks before commenting on what they say?


Must work on that.

No, I think it is just being hypocritical. I don't care what side you're on.

[Gelston]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/124048441_2672616606383493_820420541949612182_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=xzomHrroHEcAX_QFx5N&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=a3e664165d1c39b128ba121c3ff97997&oe=5FCBED31

[Methais]

No, I think it is just being hypocritical. I don't care what side you're on.

This is correct.

time4bhaalizmo is always a giant hypocrite with no self awareness anyway, so that's noting new.

[Seran]

What happwned then? I haven't kept up with much of this at all. I'm just waiting for results and a little news here and there becauase this shit is too exhausting.

Someone reviewed the printer out and typoed the results when they keyed it in. Because it's such a sensational topic, the Michigan county is doing a hand recount to show there's no irregularity

[Keller]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/124048441_2672616606383493_820420541949612182_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=xzomHrroHEcAX_QFx5N&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=a3e664165d1c39b128ba121c3ff97997&oe=5FCBED31

WAP

[Risen]

Someone reviewed the printer out and typoed the results when they keyed it in. Because it's such a sensational topic, the Michigan county is doing a hand recount to show there's no irregularity

No, two separate issues. The miskey happened on the 4th and gave Biden ~153,000 votes, instead of ~15300 (an extra and errant zero). This issue about 6000 votes being summarized incorrectly is from research last evening and today. There is more to the story, as well.

[Risen]

And then there is this. I hope this is 'fake'.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-funding-exclusive/exclusive-rnc-seeking-to-raise-at-least-60-million-to-fund-trump-legal-challenges-sources-idUSKBN27M2R0

[time4fun]

And then there is this. I hope this is 'fake'.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-funding-exclusive/exclusive-rnc-seeking-to-raise-at-least-60-million-to-fund-trump-legal-challenges-sources-idUSKBN27M2R0

They have every right to request recounts and such- Dems certainly did in 2016.

But supporting countless frivolous lawsuits filed by a man who is actively trying to undermine our faith in democracy is a new low for a party that has long shown it's willing to abuse the levers of power in democracy to create decidedly anti-democratic political victories for themselves.

I really wanted them to get a wipe out so they would have some time to sit in a corner and re-evaluate their voter suppression obsession. Sadly they're just going to double down on it.

[Tgo01]

They have every right to request recounts and such- Dems certainly did in 2016.

But supporting countless frivolous lawsuits filed by a man who is actively trying to undermine our faith in democracy is a new low for a party that has long shown it's willing to abuse the levers of power in democracy to create decidedly anti-democratic political victories for themselves.

I really wanted them to get a wipe out so they would have some time to sit in a corner and re-evaluate their voter suppression obsession. Sadly they're just going to double down on it.

"They have every right to request recounts but they absolutely cannot challenge the outright fraud we all witnessed! That's un-Democratic!"

Gotta love the piece of shit left.

[beldannon5]

All future elections need to be electronic and in person only and need to end on election night like fed law says. Yes I know electronic can have issues but a lot easier to track then 500 million mail in ballots. For this election we have to go with what has happened

[Tgo01]

All future elections need to be electronic and in person only and need to end on election night like fed law says. Yes I know electronic can have issues but a lot easier to track then 500 million mail in ballots. For this election we have to go with what has happened

And no county by county results. Each county will count their votes and won't share the vote total until the entire state has counted their votes.

None of this shit where the red counties all finish counting in a few hours and upload their results so the blue counties have days to "find" extra votes to push their candidate ahead by just a couple of thousand votes. This is so blatant I feel like I'm living in communist Russia, which is what the left wants so it fits.

[ClydeR]

https://rm.metrolatam.com/2020/11/06/bogota/full_1-b004ad76c415b03735534c27d9cecf9d.webp

[Gelston]

https://rm.metrolatam.com/2020/11/06/bogota/full_1-b004ad76c415b03735534c27d9cecf9d.webp

We don't speak Mexican here.

[Methais]

They have every right to request recounts and such- Dems certainly did in 2016.

But supporting countless frivolous lawsuits filed by a man who is actively trying to undermine our faith in democracy is a new low for a party that has long shown it's willing to abuse the levers of power in democracy to create decidedly anti-democratic political victories for themselves.

I really wanted them to get a wipe out so they would have some time to sit in a corner and re-evaluate their voter suppression obsession. Sadly they're just going to double down on it.

Jus shut up already until you've acquired some self-awareness. Jesus Christ :lol:


Apparently some race in Oakland got flipped after a "glitch" was fixed:

Fixed computer glitch turns losing Republican into a winner in Oakland County (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2020/11/06/oakland-county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot)

[time4fun]

All future elections need to be electronic and in person only and need to end on election night like fed law says. Yes I know electronic can have issues but a lot easier to track then 500 million mail in ballots. For this election we have to go with what has happened

We're in the middle of a pandemic. How on earth can your takeaway here be that all elections should be in person??

The real issue here is that some states- like PA- can't start counting- or even validating- mail in votes before election day.

But we just had historic turnout. Making mail in ballots more accessible has been a huge success. We still live in a Democracy. We're supposed to maximizing the number of people who vote, not minimizing it.

[Risen]

Jus shut up already until you've acquired some self-awareness. Jesus Christ :lol:


Apparently some race in Oakland got flipped after a "glitch" was fixed:

Fixed computer glitch turns losing Republican into a winner in Oakland County (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2020/11/06/oakland-county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot)

Very compelling statement at the end - "And the process worked apparently without regard to politics. A Republican city clerk supervised a vote count that wrongly gave victory to a Democrat, after which a Democratic county clerk's staff caught the error and requested a correction from the Republican city clerk, handing the win to a Republican."

[beldannon5]

pandemic doesn't matter. 99 percent or 100 eprcent of voters have access to a computer or library. I just don't want there to be chances for fraud like there are this election and previous ones. I also don't want individual states to have their own rules on voting. I mean like 5-10 states you don't even have to have valid id which is ridiculous. I know we won't agree on any of this and that's okay, this is America I think. All votes need to be done by election night close of voting. I want a decisive winner either way republican or democrat on Election day because well ELECTION DAY IS THE FIRST TUESDAY OF NOVEMBER every election year

[Blazar]

pandemic doesn't matter. 99 percent or 100 eprcent of voters have access to a computer or library. I just don't want there to be chances for fraud like there are this election and previous ones. I also don't want individual states to have their own rules on voting. I mean like 5-10 states you don't even have to have valid id which is ridiculous. I know we won't agree on any of this and that's okay, this is America I think. All votes need to be done by election night close of voting. I want a decisive winner either way republican or democrat on Election day because well ELECTION DAY IS THE FIRST TUESDAY OF NOVEMBER every election year

So you don't support the extended deadline for overseas and military ballots either then?

[caelric]

Serious question for the leftists: if there is real evidence of probable fraud, would you be willing for it to be investigated, and if proven, throw out those fraudulent ballots, even if it changes the outcome of the election to a Trump win?

[time4fun]

pandemic doesn't matter. 99 percent or 100 eprcent of voters have access to a computer or library. I just don't want there to be chances for fraud like there are this election and previous ones. I also don't want individual states to have their own rules on voting. I mean like 5-10 states you don't even have to have valid id which is ridiculous. I know we won't agree on any of this and that's okay, this is America I think. All votes need to be done by election night close of voting. I want a decisive winner either way republican or democrat on Election day because well ELECTION DAY IS THE FIRST TUESDAY OF NOVEMBER every election year

I'm sorry, but what fraud are you talking about?

Be specific. What is that actual fraud that we are at risk of through mail in ballots?

[BriarFox]

Serious question for the leftists: if there is real evidence of probable fraud, would you be willing for it to be investigated, and if proven, throw out those fraudulent ballots, even if it changes the outcome of the election to a Trump win?

Naturally, but so far it’s just a bunch of whiners and sore losers.

[Blazar]

Serious question for the leftists: if there is real evidence of probable fraud, would you be willing for it to be investigated, and if proven, throw out those fraudulent ballots, even if it changes the outcome of the election to a Trump win?

I don't consider myself a leftist, but absolutely. But there has to be proof, not just allegations and bullshit thrown around.

[caelric]

I don't consider myself a leftist,


That's cute. Your viewpoints, as espoused on this forum are pretty far left. Own it.


but absolutely. But there has to be proof, not just allegations and bullshit thrown around.

You, umm, don't get proof until you do an investigation. First there is evidence, and allegations, and then, an investigation either finds proof, or doesn't. Would you be willing to allow said investigation?

ETA: And right now, there is some real evidence in MI, at least, of serious discrepancies.

[Fortybox]

What happwned then? I haven't kept up with much of this at all. I'm just waiting for results and a little news here and there becauase this shit is too exhausting.

I meant that this wasn't accidental. Fraud is happening right in front of our eyes and the democrats are allowing it to happen or are complicit in its involvement, despite spending every waking hour for the last 4 years forming special counsels to fight against "corruption" or "fraud" from the Trump administration.

[BriarFox]

I meant that this wasn't accidental. Fraud is happening right in front of our eyes and the democrats are allowing it to happen or are complicit in its involvement, despite spending every waking hour for the last 4 years forming special counsels to fight against "corruption" or "fraud" from the Trump administration.

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[Fortybox]

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https://media.giphy.com/media/3ofT5YLKDPdgKt4kCc/giphy.gif

[BriarFox]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ofT5YLKDPdgKt4kCc/giphy.gif

Yeah. So. How’s Trump’s record in court so far? :lol:

[Candor]

Yeah, at this point the only way for Trump to reach 270 is to lose 100lbs.

You have a talent for making me laugh even when I disagree with you. Stop that :).

[drauz]

"They have every right to request recounts but they absolutely cannot challenge the outright fraud we all witnessed! That's un-Democratic!"

Gotta love the piece of shit left.

What outright fraud?

[time4fun]

You have a talent for making me laugh even when I disagree with you. Stop that :).

*curtsies*

[time4fun]

Serious question for the leftists: if there is real evidence of probable fraud, would you be willing for it to be investigated, and if proven, throw out those fraudulent ballots, even if it changes the outcome of the election to a Trump win?

OBVIOUSLY.

But there is no evidence. Republicans have been screaming about this "rampant voter fraud" for years. As a reminder, Trump put together a task force to "uncover" systemic voter fraud, and it was disbanded 6 months later because they couldn't find any. This issue has been extensively studied by Universities and Government Agencies. Nobody has *EVER* found systemic voter fraud in our election system. It's virtually impossible given the way our elections are run.

Republicans have spent the last ten years, in particular, pushing through legislation to reduce the number of IDs that are valid for voting, restricting the number of days people have to vote early, and closing literally hundreds of polling locations in especially minority areas. And ***During a pandemic*** they fired off dozens of lawsuits around the country- virtually all of which were designed to make it harder for people to vote. And they've done it all under the guise of "preventing voter fraud".

If these people know for a fact there is no systemic voter fraud- then why are they doing all of this? THAT'S the question you should be asking yourself.

You know what they call these measures? "Turnout control". Not "Fraud Prevention". "Turnout Control".

One of the many fun things we've discovered from the email evidence the GOP has had to turn over in those cases where they've been sued for their voter ID laws.

Again- Turnout. Control.

Does that sound like an anti-voter fraud initiative to you?

[time4fun]

Biden's lead in PA has increased to 20k.

When we woke up this morning, Trump was ahead.

There's no realistic path for Trump at this point.

[Back]

I just don't want there to be chances for fraud like there are this election and previous ones. I also don't want individual states to have their own rules on voting. I mean like 5-10 states you don't even have to have valid id which is ridiculous. I know we won't agree on any of this and that's okay, this is America I think. All votes need to be done by election night close of voting. I want a decisive winner either way republican or democrat on Election day because well ELECTION DAY IS THE FIRST TUESDAY OF NOVEMBER every election year

People keep saying there is fraud. Why? There has been no proof. What have you seen with your own eyes? What evidence do you have? Or at least what evididence can you share a link to?


Serious question for the leftists: if there is real evidence of probable fraud, would you be willing for it to be investigated, and if proven, throw out those fraudulent ballots, even if it changes the outcome of the election to a Trump win?

By all means yes and yes! Jail time for the offenders. I think most Americans, and probably every person living in a democracy, wants free and fair elections. No one wants an installed authoritarian who works for their own interests rather than the majority's.

Poll workers are bipartisan and transparent. No widespread fraud has ever been found. 50 states doing them all their own way is a hurdle to a coordinated fraud effort. Every vote post marked by election day must be counted.

[Tgo01]

What outright fraud?

A) Open your fucking eyes already.
B) If Trump believes he has evidence of fraud shouldn't he bring the evidence to the courts and let them decide?

[time4fun]

A) Open your fucking eyes already.
B) If Trump believes he has evidence of fraud shouldn't he bring the evidence to the courts and let them decide?

You haven't provided any evidence of systemic voter fraud. "Open your eyes" means literally nothing. Less than nothing. Where is the proof Tgo?

If Trump *actually* thought he had evidence of voter fraud, he would be presenting that evidence to the American people because it would be in his best interest to do so. He was also claiming fraud long before the vote actually happened. Finally, he has tried to stop people from counting the votes in some states (where he's ahead) and not in others (where he's behind). That gives you a pretty strong indication that he's just doing and saying whatever he thinks will help him, regardless of the truth or the impact on our democracy.

[~Rocktar~]

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[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Biden won. Look at the history of election recounts, nothing will change. Historically recounts change the vote by a fraction of a percent.

Move on and accept our new world leader and lets get behind him and tough it out.

[time4fun]

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I love how the fact that one situation had actual evidence from our Intelligence Community and the other has absolutely no evidence presented whatsoever hasn't even occurred to you.

It says a lot about you.

[Blazar]

I love how the fact that one situation had actual evidence from our Intelligence Community and the other has absolutely no evidence presented whatsoever hasn't even occurred to you.

It says a lot about you.

Not to mention the distinct difference between foreign interference trying to manipulate our people, as opposed to claims that our people are committing the fraud.

It's pathetic how ignorant some of these people are.

And just to clarify, by our people, I mean Americans. In general.

[time4fun]

Another AZ batch dropped. 55-45 for Trump. Each batch over the last two days has been less favorable for Trump.

He's not out of the running like he is with PA, but he needs to be +19, not +10. Now he needs even more.

It doesn't look good for Trump. But it looks very good for democracy.

[Tgo01]

You haven't provided any evidence of systemic voter fraud. "Open your eyes" means literally nothing. Less than nothing. Where is the proof Tgo?

I'm just some shmuck on the internet who sees a lot of fishy shit going on. If anyone would have evidence it would be Trump and yet you don't want him to bring it to the courts to let them decide, you already said you want him to just accept this bullshit and move on. Fuck you.

[Blazar]

I'm just some shmuck sheep that has been told there's some fishy shit going on but there's absolutely zero evidence of, and I wear a tin foil hat cause everyone is out to get me I mean Trump. Boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo boo hoo


Fixed. Much more accurate now.

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[Tgo01]

Fixed. Much more accurate now.

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Okay Mr. "LOL they are counting ballots in a tiny room smaller than my kitchen!"

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Biden won. Look at the history of election recounts, nothing will change. Historically recounts change the vote by a fraction of a percent.

Move on and accept our new world leader and lets get behind him and tough it out.

Look it up. Recounts change nothing.

[Ashliana]

I meant that this wasn't accidental. Fraud is happening right in front of our eyes and the democrats are allowing it to happen or are complicit in its involvement, despite spending every waking hour for the last 4 years forming special counsels to fight against "corruption" or "fraud" from the Trump administration.

"Fraud's happening right in front of our eyes!"

"Okay. Where?"

"....."

"....."

"....."

"Don't my wishes count as evidence?"

Not today. Your wishes lack the power to warp reality to suit your delusions, and none of you have any explanation for how "fraud" is happening in 100% GOP controlled states, like Georgia and Arizona, or in states with GOP-controlled legislatures (like Pennsylvania) where they had the power to mitigate whatever phony "concerns" you have. Or why the Republican senators of those states, like Pennsylvania's Toomey, admit there's zero evidence (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pennsylvania-election-2020-pat-toomey-trump-claims/) of any "fraud" happening.

But by all means, continue hilariously losing your shit. You might eventually convince someone who isn't a total loon, like you, that you're right someday, Dalabrac.

[time4fun]

I'm just some shmuck on the internet who sees a lot of fishy shit going on. If anyone would have evidence it would be Trump and yet you don't want him to bring it to the courts to let them decide, you already said you want him to just accept this bullshit and move on. Fuck you.

Oh my god.

You actually believe Trump, don't you? You really don't get that he's lying to you, do you?

Wow. That's just...wow.

[Seran]

Biden won. Look at the history of election recounts, nothing will change. Historically recounts change the vote by a fraction of a percent.

Move on and accept our new world leader and lets get behind him and tough it out.

You believe that and a number of more moderate Republicans do as well. So what does the President think he'll gain? Throw enough shade with the hopes the Supreme Court will throw out entire states? Create enough of a delay that ballots cannot be counted before the certify their results and thus send the matter to Congress so he'll be reelected? Those are amazingly long shots.

So what are we left with, a country on edge while the president burns through all of the Republicans political capital.

[Tgo01]

Oh my god.

You actually believe Trump, don't you? You really don't get that he's lying to you, do you?

Wow. That's just...wow.

Why not let him bring it to the courts? The courts will then decide. That's what they're there for isn't it? What are you afraid of? If he's full of shit then nothing changes and Biden becomes president. It's almost as if you know there is a chance he has the evidence and it might reverse this abomination of an election so therefore you don't even want Trump to present his evidence.

Stop pretending you give a single shit about Democracy. Each and every post of yours proves the exact opposite.

[Ashliana]

Why not let him bring it to the courts? The courts will then decide. That's what they're there for isn't it? What are you afraid of? If he's full of shit then nothing changes and Biden becomes president. It's almost as if you know there is a chance he has the evidence and it might reverse this abomination of an election so therefore you don't even want Trump to present his evidence.

Stop pretending you give a single shit about Democracy. Each and every post of yours proves the exact opposite.

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[Tgo01]

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Another person afraid to let the courts hear the arguments and the evidence. It would be nice if you guys would at least stop pretending you gave a single shit about our Democracy. That's all I ask. If you guys were just honest and said "I want the Democrat candidate to win no matter what!" then at least you guys wouldn't look like such hypocritical jackasses.

Instead you prattle on and on about election integrity and Democracy, then as soon as someone wants to go via the Democratic process you scream "NO! THAT'S NOT WHAT A DEMOCRACY DOES!"

Fuckers.

[Tgo01]

Democrat idiots like time4fun and Ashliana for the past 4 years: OMG! Trump is a dictator! He will literally declare himself president for life and never leave office!
Trump: I have evidence of voter fraud and want to let the courts decide.
Democrat idiots like time4fun and Ashliana for the past 4 years: OMG! That's exactly what a dictator does! He lets the courts decide things!!111!!!!

You people are so fucking retarded that there are literally no words in the dictionary to describe just how retarded you are.

[time4fun]

Why not let him bring it to the courts? The courts will then decide. That's what they're there for isn't it? What are you afraid of? If he's full of shit then nothing changes and Biden becomes president. It's almost as if you know there is a chance he has the evidence and it might reverse this abomination of an election so therefore you don't even want Trump to present his evidence.

Stop pretending you give a single shit about Democracy. Each and every post of yours proves the exact opposite.

Bring what to the courts exactly? What specific thing has he brought to our attention to bring to the courts?

To answer your question: because he is trying to tear the country apart and destroy our faith in the foundation of our democracy.

So let's be VERY clear hers

This man held super spreader events all over the country- KNOWINGLY putting thousands of lives at risk- because he thought it would help him win. Absolutely no regard at all for the lives of his supporters or the people around him. Because all he needed from them was to vote. After that, they were of no use to him.

And now, when it's obvious he has lost, he's directly attacking our nation's faith in our American democracy with zero evidence simply because he thinks if he can sow enough chaos and doubt, then maybe he won't have to concede. No regard to the long-term damage this does to our nation. No regard to the long term damage this does to Biden's presidency. Because all he needs is everyone's doubt. After that, it doesn't matter what happens.

So to answer your question-there are VERY good reasons why we don't indulge this. There's a reason why Presidential candidates who lose don't put the country through this- because they care more about our country than they care about themselves. .

And the darkest most pathological thing he has done to this country, is somehow managing to convince tens of millions of people that Trump's self-interests were more important than our democracy. It's a disease. And he needs to be cut out.

[Ashliana]

Democrat idiots like time4fun and Ashliana for the past 4 years: OMG! Trump is a dictator! He will literally declare himself president for life and never leave office!
Trump: I have evidence of voter fraud and want to let the courts decide.
Democrat idiots like time4fun and Ashliana for the past 4 years: OMG! That's exactly what a dictator does! He lets the courts decide things!!111!!!!

You people are so fucking retarded that there are literally no words in the dictionary to describe just how retarded you are.

It's sad that this has to be explained to you: your wishes lack the power to make fantasy reality. You (or Trump) hysterically screaming "FRAUD!! FRAUD!!shift+111!" doesn't make it so, no matter how badly you wish it.

The Trump campaign has filed numerous lawsuits, none of which have gone anywhere. Many have been dismissed already. Sorry you're butthurt about having to live on planet Earth -- that's your problem. No one else's.

Keep the tears coming, though.

[drauz]

A) Open your fucking eyes already.
B) If Trump believes he has evidence of fraud shouldn't he bring the evidence to the courts and let them decide?

https://i.imgur.com/kd8YPpy.jpg

[drauz]

Why not let him bring it to the courts? The courts will then decide. That's what they're there for isn't it? What are you afraid of? If he's full of shit then nothing changes and Biden becomes president. It's almost as if you know there is a chance he has the evidence and it might reverse this abomination of an election so therefore you don't even want Trump to present his evidence.

Stop pretending you give a single shit about Democracy. Each and every post of yours proves the exact opposite.

No one has said don't bring the evidence, but to be clear his word isn't evidence. Bring what hes got to the courts, I'd be surprised if he has any actual evidence though.

No one here wants a rigged election and no one here has said they do.

Sorry it looks like your guy lost, I hope you can come to terms with it in a healthful way.

[Tgo01]

Bring what to the courts exactly? What specific thing has he brought to our attention to bring to the courts?

Why are you so afraid of the Democratic process?

[Tgo01]

It's sad that this has to be explained to you: your wishes lack the power to make fantasy reality. You (or Trump) hysterically screaming "FRAUD!! FRAUD!!shift+111!" doesn't make it so, no matter how badly you wish it.

Let the courts hear the arguments then. What are you afraid of?

[Tgo01]

https://i.imgur.com/kd8YPpy.jpg

So you think this is how Trump is going to play this out? Bring this all to the courts then not present any evidence? Why are you so afraid to let the courts hear any arguments? What are you afraid of?

[Tgo01]

No one has said don't bring the evidence

That's weird because I recall this post from time4fun:


But supporting countless frivolous lawsuits filed by a man who is actively trying to undermine our faith in democracy is a new low for a party that has long shown it's willing to abuse the levers of power in democracy to create decidedly anti-democratic political victories for themselves.

[Ashliana]

That's weird because I recall this post from time4fun:

https://i.redd.it/rsl3cvlffpx51.jpg

[drauz]

That's weird because I recall this post from time4fun:

There seems to be a keyword in that sentence you don't understand.

Let me help you, it starts with an f and ends with rivolous.

A lawsuit with actual evidence wouldn't be frivolous now would it.

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[Tgo01]

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Let the courts hear the arguments then. What are you afraid of? Can any of you TDS sufferers just answer a simple question?

[Tgo01]

There seems to be a keyword in that sentence you don't understand.

Let me help you, it starts with an f and ends with rivolous.

A lawsuit with actual evidence wouldn't be frivolous now would it.

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"No one said don't let the courts decide!"

"Okay someone did imply it's un-Democratic to bring this to the courts, but they said the lawsuits are frivolous!"

Again let the courts decide what is frivolous and what isn't. What are you afraid of?

[drauz]

Let the courts hear the arguments then. What are you afraid of? Can any of you TDS sufferers just answer a simple question?

Just breath, it's going to be ok.

No one wants actual evidence of voter fraud to not be taken to court, you're working yourself into a frenzy over something no one has said. I guess that is kind of your thing though, put words into people's mouths then argue against it.

[drauz]

"No one said don't let the courts decide!"

"Okay someone did imply it's un-Democratic to bring this to the courts, but they said the lawsuits are frivolous!"

Again let the courts decide what is frivolous and what isn't. What are you afraid of?

We both know the lawsuits are going to be filed, people not wanting the 5,000 stupid lawsuits that we know aren't going to work to delay knowing who the President will be. No one is afraid here except you, stop projecting.

I'll say it again, if he has evidence then bring it. Don't just shout at the clouds about it, put up or shut up.

[Tgo01]

No one wants actual evidence of voter fraud to not be taken to court

And yet time4fun said exactly that and several of you are just flat out laughing at the idea of Trump bringing this to the courts.

Y'all seem afraid of something to be this upset over the Democratic process playing out. Almost as if none of you care a single bit about Democracy. So weird.

[time4fun]

"No one said don't let the courts decide!"

"Okay someone did imply it's un-Democratic to bring this to the courts, but they said the lawsuits are frivolous!"

Again let the courts decide what is frivolous and what isn't. What are you afraid of?

Um yes it is VERY un-Democratic to sue states to keep them from counting votes.

That is literally the definition of un-Democratic you pinhead

[Tgo01]

No one is afraid here except you, stop projecting.

You and the rest of the whiners mocking the idea of bringing this to the courts suggest otherwise. As per usual you try to sound like the reasonable centrist and just come off as a raging leftist blinded by his hatred of Trump. Get over yourself already.

[Tgo01]

Um yes it is VERY un-Democratic to sue states to keep them from counting votes.

See what I mean, drauz? Keep sucking time4fun's cock while she argues the exact thing you keep saying no one is saying.

[Seran]

Why are you so afraid of the Democratic process?

Suing to overturn the elections results is the exact opposite of the democratic process dipshit

[drauz]

Um yes it is VERY un-Democratic to sue states to keep them from counting votes.

That is literally the definition of un-Democratic you pinhead

Lets sort this out.

Do you want actual evidence of voter fraud not to be taken to court?

[~Rocktar~]

Texas Charges Social Worker With 134 Felony Counts Involving Election Fraud

https://www.dailywire.com/news/texas-charges-social-worker-with-134-felony-counts-involving-election-fraud

[time4fun]

See what I mean, drauz? Keep sucking time4fun's cock while she argues the exact thing you keep saying no one is saying.

No seriously- how are you this stupid? Do you think before you post?

"What's un-Democratic about suing states to stop counting legally cast votes...but only the states where you're ahead?"'

Honestly. Do you even hear yourself?

[drauz]

You and the rest of the whiners mocking the idea of bringing this to the courts suggest otherwise. As per usual you try to sound like the reasonable centrist and just come off as a raging leftist blinded by his hatred of Trump. Get over yourself already.

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[Seran]

We both know the lawsuits are going to be filed, people not wanting the 5,000 stupid lawsuits that we know aren't going to work to delay knowing who the President will be. No one is afraid here except you, stop projecting.

I'll say it again, if he has evidence then bring it. Don't just shout at the clouds about it, put up or shut up.

If they had a shred of evidence there'd be senate hearings and a DOJ investigation. They only they have is a bunch of liars and strawmen

[~Rocktar~]

Um yes it is VERY un-Democratic to sue states to keep them from counting votes.

That is literally the definition of un-Democratic you pinhead

Yes, preventing the counting of ineligible and invalid votes is so anti-democratic.


Suing to overturn the elections results is the exact opposite of the democratic process dipshit

Suing to uphold legal, valid and credible elections results is so un-democratic.

Both of you need to fuck off.

[Tgo01]

Suing to overturn the elections results is the exact opposite of the democratic process dipshit

Letting the courts decide disputes is undemocratic?

I'm not sure you know what Democratic means.

[Tgo01]

"What's un-Democratic about suing states to stop counting legally cast votes...but only the states where you're ahead?"'

Maybe they aren't legally cast votes? Let the courts hear the arguments and settle the dispute. You know, exactly what the courts do in a Democratic society. Unless you prefer Trump be an actual dictator and ignore the courts and decide he has won the election anyways and starts arresting his political rivals. You scream about Democracy and tyrants all day long yet you haven't the first fucking clue what either of those words mean.

[Tgo01]

How many more votes are they going to keep giving Biden in Georgia and PA while the percent of votes counted remains at 99%? I guess just keep giving him votes until they feel satisfied even lawsuits can't reverse their corruption.

Shit Georgia was at 99% while Trump was still ahead.

[time4fun]

Yes, preventing the counting of ineligible and invalid votes is so anti-democratic.



Suing to uphold legal, valid and credible elections results is so un-democratic.

Both of you need to fuck off.

Oh really? I must have missed the part of the filings where they said "Please just stop counting illegitimate votes". Also the part where there was ANY evidence whatsoever that they were counting illegitimate votes.

More fortunate still that the only states that were apparently counting illegitimate votes were the ones where Trump was ahead, and that not a single state where he was behind had any illegitimate votes to count and therefore could continue their vote counting.

I mean wow...what were the odds?

PS You're a fucking idiot

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

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[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

69 cents. So cheap.

[Archigeek]

Maybe they aren't legally cast votes? Let the courts hear the arguments and settle the dispute. You know, exactly what the courts do in a Democratic society. Unless you prefer Trump be an actual dictator and ignore the courts and decide he has won the election anyways and starts arresting his political rivals. You scream about Democracy and tyrants all day long yet you haven't the first fucking clue what either of those words mean.

Trump should file all the lawsuits and file all the complaints he wants. The evidence will speak for itself. What shouldn't happen is obstruction of vote counting. Following the law is of paramount importance.

[Tgo01]

What shouldn't happen is obstruction of vote counting.

Not if there is reason to believe there are fraudulent votes mixed in among legit votes, then they should absolutely stop the counting until the shit is resolved via the courts. That's what the courts are there for.

So far the only obstruction to the process I have heard of is Democrat cities refusing to allow poll watchers do their job.

[Bhaalizmo]

See what I mean, drauz? Keep sucking time4fun's cock while she argues the exact thing you keep saying no one is saying.

Quit thinking about my cock.

Sincerely, my cock.

[Solkern]

States where Biden came back and is winning, it’s just because of how those states chose to count the votes. Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania all counted in person votes first, than mail in votes after that. PA refused to allow the mail in votes to be counted before the day of the election. There is no mass voter fraud. Just accept the defeat and stop crying.


Honestly, he should stop trying to fight the election results, or whatever it he’s doing without any evidence.. instead he should be preparing his legal team for the massive amount of lawsuits and state criminal cases that are going to be shoved down his throat when he leaves the White House and won’t have “presidential immunity” anymore. A Pardon isn’t going to save him from any of it.

[Tgo01]

Quit thinking about my cock.

Sincerely, my cock.

Bhaalizmo now admitting he's time4fun. We have come full circle.

[Parkbandit]

So you're fine with what I said: 9 miles of wall, not the 400 you claimed. You got conned, and you're happy with it. Perfect.

No, you said that the built up wall was only reinforcing that what was already there. No, that was rebuilding of the wall that was a wall that wasn't working at all. The area the wall was built in was among the most porous on the border, it needed to be rebuilt.


Tell us about how little "emotion" you put into politics after you've obsessively posted here, how you sent yet another rep message with swearing in response, etc. N

Nobody's buying it, my deluded friend.

WAIT, I GAVE PEOPLE REP COMMENTS WITH SWEARING IN IT!?!?!? HOLY SHIT STOP THE PRESSES!!!!

I said after 2016, it doesn't really matter who the President is.. if you want to effect change, do it at the local level where it actually affects you. (and yea, I might not have used affect or effect the right way there.. don't care.. I can never remember which way is which..)

Just because I post on a forum in the political section doesn't mean I somehow believe that politics is the end all be all part of my life. It's a very, very tiny part that I am entertained in. That's it.

Sorry I can't show more despair and anger like you did in 2016. I just don't have a problem with my emotions like you.

But it looks like you won! YAY YOU! Go out and celebrate.. we will be here in 4 years.. you can tell me specifically how your life has drastically changed with Joe Biden as President.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, at this point the only way for Trump to reach 270 is to lose 100lbs.

Andraste.. you should be the last person on these forums to body shame anyone.

[Solkern]

I might not have used affect or effect the right way there.. don't care.. I can never remember which way is which..)


Yeah I mix that shit up to, affect is the verb, to have an impact or change, I just remember it by Action, effect is the noun, which is the result.

[Parkbandit]

Um yes it is VERY un-Democratic to sue states to keep them from counting votes.

That is literally the definition of un-Democratic you pinhead

You're confused.

The Trump campaign isn't asking them to stop them from counting legitimate votes.. they are asking them to stop counting votes that are not legitimate.

It's the same thing when you are so confused about illegal aliens and immigrants.

I blame it on your constant imaginary life you create.. it must be confusing your already strained brain.

[Parkbandit]

Trump should file all the lawsuits and file all the complaints he wants. The evidence will speak for itself. What shouldn't happen is obstruction of vote counting. Following the law is of paramount importance.

I agree.. as long as those votes aren't modified and come in on time, they should count.

[Solkern]

You're confused.

The Trump campaign isn't asking them to stop them from counting legitimate votes.. they are asking them to stop counting votes that are not legitimate.

It's the same thing when you are so confused about illegal aliens and immigrants.

I blame it on your constant imaginary life you create.. it must be confusing your already strained brain.

Actually he said any vote received after the day of election should not be counted because they came in late.. which would invalidate a lot of our military votes.
(Or something along those lines)

If a vote comes in late, but it’s post marked on or before the day of the election, it should count, as long as it comes in time with the rules that were stipulated by the state that is receiving that vote. Otherwise that vote should be thrown out and not counted.

[Solkern]

Trump “tens of thousands of votes were illegally received after 8pm on Tuesday, Election Day, totally and easily changing the results in Pennsylvania and certain other razor thin states.”
They aren’t illegal, they are legal as long as they were post marked on or before the Election Day. And within the time frames allowed by each state.