Portland.

[FlayedAngel]

Look who suddenly cares about violence in Portland. You people are the biggest joke in the history of jokes.

2+ straight months of Antifa violence: Democrats sleep.
Antifa clashes with Proud Boys: Democrats demand action against the Proud Boys!
The biggest joke in teh history of jokes?! Oh boy!

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118201400_10223487283667405_6112266759435834951_n. jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SGXsRd_AIHMAX-N4M2N&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=98db40d78b674f40ce7ec38090ffab50&oe=5F6A63CA

[Solkern]

Look who suddenly cares about violence in Portland. You people are the biggest joke in the history of jokes.

2+ straight months of Antifa violence: Democrats sleep.
Antifa clashes with Proud Boys: Democrats demand action against the Proud Boys!

Suddenly I care? This was a direct retort to your countless post that the only violence is coming from the left and The BLM movement. Try harder cupcake.

Sorry Tgo, my life doesn’t revolve around these forums like yours does. All because I don’t post every article I see and every thought I have like you do. Doesn’t mean I “suddenly care”

Go back to that wall to wall coverage of the RNC. It’s gold.

Edited: I’ve posted quite a few times I don’t support the violence.

[Solkern]

To be fair, the world would be a better place if there were less blm, liberals, and retards such as yourself.

Have you figured out the difference between isolation and quarantine yet?

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298514654390452224?s=20

Good news! Looks like police are engaging the violent protesters and making arrests!

Oh wait, it's Antifa, I guess you leftists suddenly don't want police enforcing laws right?

What a bunch of jokers. As long as the violence doesn't come to your neighborhood and hurt anyone in your family right?

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392?s=20

Looks like open warfare in the streets of Kenosha tonight. If only Democrats weren't so useless and actually implemented law and order instead of allowing thugs to run loose in the street.

No telling exactly what happened here (who belongs to which group of peaceful protesters or what happened before this video started), but in the video a group of people are chasing after a guy with a rifle. One person knocks him over and someone shouts to get him so about 5 or 6 people charge him while the gunman is on the ground. It looks like the gunman shoots 3 people, two of which walk away with apparent injuries, the third remains motionless on the ground. After this everyone holds their hands up and backs away from the gunman. Considering someone starts screaming "MEDIC!" right after someone is shot I'm gonna guess the group of goons attacking the gunman are BLM/Antifa since they like to think they are in a military and have "field medics" with them when they go causing trouble. Also since the gunman was running TOWARDS the police and immediately surrendered when they approached further leads me to believe the goons are BLM/Antifa since they don't typically run towards the police for help.

Whoever the gunman is they are smart. People gotta start arming themselves and defending themselves against these goons because as evidenced in Kenosha, Portland, and other Democrat shitholes the Democrats don't want to enforce the law and will allow these goons to run wild.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392?s=20

Looks like open warfare in the streets of Kenosha tonight. If only Democrats weren't so useless and actually implemented law and order instead of allowing thugs to run loose in the street.

No telling exactly what happened here (who belongs to which group of peaceful protesters or what happened before this video started), but in the video a group of people are chasing after a guy with a rifle. One person knocks him over and someone shouts to get him so about 5 or 6 people charge him while the gunman is on the ground. It looks like the gunman shoots 3 people, two of which walk away with apparent injuries, the third remains motionless on the ground. After this everyone holds their hands up and backs away from the gunman. Considering someone starts screaming "MEDIC!" right after someone is shot I'm gonna guess the group of goons attacking the gunman are BLM/Antifa since they like to think they are in a military and have "field medics" with them when they go causing trouble. Also since the gunman was running TOWARDS the police and immediately surrendered when they approached further leads me to believe the goons are BLM/Antifa since they don't typically run towards the police for help.

Whoever the gunman is they are smart. People gotta start arming themselves and defending themselves against these goons because as evidenced in Kenosha, Portland, and other Democrat shitholes the Democrats don't want to enforce the law and will allow these goons to run wild.

According to the BBC it looks like I was right, BLM/Antifa chased down an armed man who was guarding a gas station from the burning and looting. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53917170?at_custom4=C540EE4A-E78D-11EA-BBBC-6BF939982C1E&at_custom2=twitter&at_medium=custom7&at_custom3=%40BBCWorld&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D)


Local media reports earlier said the violence was believed to have stemmed from a conflict between protesters and armed men guarding a petrol station.

If only local Democrat leadership was trying to stop the riots then armed civilians wouldn't have to put themselves into harm's way and have to shoot a bunch of goons trying to do harm to them and their city.

Time to stop voting Democrats. You guys have exactly zero excuses left now. At this point it's literally just spite. "Let's keep voting for people who are going to let our city and country burn to own the conservatards! Suck it, tRump!"

[Voldemort]

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-35a0fe518329b66c1c291894f2f7d842

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392?s=20

POP POP POP MAKING MARXIST DROP

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1298496480467017728?s=20

Largely peaceful Antifa/BLM goon tried to set another car dealership on fire, he was shot in the head by civilians protecting the property.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1298496480467017728?s=20

Largely peaceful Antifa/BLM goon tried to set another car dealership on fire, he was shot in the head by civilians protecting the property.

Finally, some justice.

[Tgo01]

POP POP POP MAKING MARXIST DROP

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298504749633814529?s=20

Aftermath of the dipshit who jumped on him at the end there and got shot in the arm, looks like half of his upper arm is missing. Also gotta love the dipshit "helping" him by screaming "MEDIC!" Like, dude, no, that dude needs a fucking hospital, not one of your dumb buddies LARping as a "medic" armed with gauze and band aids.

Also apparently the guy was carrying a pistol, why he was trying to jump on the guy while armed with a pistol I'm not sure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgVNazpU0AAUW-y?format=jpg&name=large

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Haha, his hat says paramedic.

[Tgo01]

Haha, his hat says paramedic.

Like that goon in Portland who was wearing a vest reading "SECURITY" who nearly killed a man after kicking him in the face.

This is all make believe fantasy to these morons. They really think they are "security" and "medics" and that they really are fighting a war and that they are gonna win. The blame for all of this violence and death rests solely on Democrats for coddling these morons for months. Now these dipshits are finally facing reality in Wisconsin and they are being shot dead, left with probably permanent brain damage, and this guy will probably lose his arm or at least most function of that arm.

Shit is only gonna get worse for these BLM/Antifa goons.

[Tgo01]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/rioters-tried-to-burn-alive-police-sealing-door-with-apparent-concrete-substance-during-fire-report

Antifa/BLM goons tried to seal a police precinct's door shut with cement in Seattle then set the building on fire with officers inside the building. The officers had to kick the door open to escape. Feds are now involved.

[Alfster]

According to the BBC it looks like I was right, BLM/Antifa chased down an armed man who was guarding a gas station from the burning and looting. (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53917170?at_custom4=C540EE4A-E78D-11EA-BBBC-6BF939982C1E&at_custom2=twitter&at_medium=custom7&at_custom3=%40BBCWorld&at_campaign=64&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D)



If only local Democrat leadership was trying to stop the riots then armed civilians wouldn't have to put themselves into harm's way and have to shoot a bunch of goons trying to do harm to them and their city.

Time to stop voting Democrats. You guys have exactly zero excuses left now. At this point it's literally just spite. "Let's keep voting for people who are going to let our city and country burn to own the conservatards! Suck it, tRump!"

I'm not sure what this has to do with Democrats. Wisconsin is primarily a purple state. Evers called up the national guard the night prior to this.

Everyone involved in this is retarded. The shooter came from out of state with an AR and was hanging out with the local militia. He came with intent.

Fuck the police too - all they had to do was not shoot someone in the back who was no threat to them. All they had to do was be self aware enough to look around the country and go, yo...maybe I shouldn't shoot an unarmed man in the back.

[Tgo01]

I'm not sure what this has to do with Democrats.

Governor: Democrat.
Mayor: Democrat
Police Chief: Democrat

Not to mention Democrats allowing this shit to go on for months in Portland, Oregon, Washington state, and other Democrat shitholes letting these idiots think they can continue to get away with this violence.


Evers called up the national guard the night prior to this.

I read he was offered more help last night but turned it down.


He came with intent.

As opposed to the largely peaceful protesters who just wanted to serve everyone tea.


Fuck the police too - all they had to do was not shoot someone in the back who was no threat to them.

Yeah about that. (https://madison365.com/kenohsa-police-opened-fire-less-than-5-minutes-after-being-called-scanner-audio/)

Turns out the dude wasn't breaking up a fight between two women like people like FlayedAngel suggested. He was trespassing, stole a woman's car keys and wouldn't give them back, and police were advised that the man had warrants out for his arrest before they even arrived.

I also read somewhere that he was holding a knife during all of this and said he had a gun in his car, although I'll totally admit this isn't something I read in an official capacity but seeing as almost every other aspect of this case has been 100% bullshit so far this wouldn't surprise me in the slightest bit.

[Gelston]

The Wisconsin Legislative Branch is majority Republican in both houses, 5 of their 8 US Reps are Republican, 1 of their two Senators is, and the state went Republican for the 2016 Presidential election. The state is purple.

[Methais]

Considering someone starts screaming "MEDIC!" right after someone is shot I'm gonna guess the group of goons attacking the gunman are BLM/Antifa since they like to think they are in a military and have "field medics" with them when they go causing trouble. Also since the gunman was running TOWARDS the police and immediately surrendered when they approached further leads me to believe the goons are BLM/Antifa since they don't typically run towards the police for help.

They're clearly battle hardened grizzled XBox soldiers.

[Neveragain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Mfiweez9U

5:15 "Guess what? Your neighborhood is going to be next."

https://media.giphy.com/media/jOpLbiGmHR9S0/giphy.gif

[~Rocktar~]

I'm not sure what this has to do with Democrats. Wisconsin is primarily a purple state. Evers called up the national guard the night prior to this.

You duplicitous shit, if you run the authorities for a long time and spend months not doing anything, then criminals get more and more bold while escalating things and it is the authorities that are at fault. This has been your argument when it suits you about Trump and Republicans and then in cases like this or Obama you backpeddle with shit like this. You are nothing more than a Leftist apologist and enabler.


Everyone involved in this is retarded. The shooter came from out of state with an AR and was hanging out with the local militia. He came with intent.

But the "mostly peaceful protesters with hand weapons, shield, incendiaries, explosives and other weapons don't, right . . .


Fuck the police too - all they had to do was not shoot someone in the back who was no threat to them. All they had to do was be self aware enough to look around the country and go, yo...maybe I shouldn't shoot an unarmed man in the back.

You have no fucking clue what is and isn't a threat, the man had already engaged police, he refused orders while weapons are drawn on him, then he reached for a deadly weapon. Fuck you for valuing a criminal's life more than a police officer. Fuck you for implying that some incident like that JUSTIFIES riots, assault, arson and worse just because a neighborhood is upset. And FUCK YOU for being part of the problem enabling all of this with your childish excuses and apologetics for criminals.

[Tgo01]

Now these dipshits are finally facing reality in Wisconsin and they are being shot dead, left with probably permanent brain damage, and this guy will probably lose his arm or at least most function of that arm.

From what I understand the dude that was shot in the head has died. Kind of figured that would happen, dude didn't look good in the video and his dipshit comrades were busy screeching for a medic instead of getting his ass to the hospital.

So that's two dudes shot and killed for trying to burn down a car lot and another dude will probably lose his arm because he tried to kill someone who was running away from the mob.

Is it time yet for the Democrat governor to admit he's a failure and ask the feds to step in?

[Parkbandit]

From what I understand the dude that was shot in the head has died. Kind of figured that would happen, dude didn't look good in the video and his dipshit comrades were busy screeching for a medic instead of getting his ass to the hospital.

So that's two dudes shot and killed for trying to burn down a car lot and another dude will probably lose his arm because he tried to kill someone who was running away from the mob.

Is it time yet for the Democrat governor to admit he's a failure and ask the feds to step in?

I saw the video of the guy with the gun falling down and the mob trying to get to him. I wish I would have trigger discipline that well if I were in his shoes.

[Tgo01]

I saw the video of the guy with the gun falling down and the mob trying to get to him. I wish I would have trigger discipline that well if I were in his shoes.

Yeah no kidding. He waited until each person was practically on top of him before he shot them and he didn't shoot at the ones who put their hands up and backed up even though just seconds prior they were more than willing to kick the shit out of him if given the chance.

The newspapers are already spinning this as far right militia gunning down protesters in the streets. Like bitch please. That couldn't have been a more clear example of self defense in the face of an unruly and violent mob out for blood. He didn't want to be the next dude from Portland that almost died for having the audacity to help a trans woman being robbed.

[Alfster]

Governor: Democrat.
Mayor: Democrat
Police Chief: Democrat

Not to mention Democrats allowing this shit to go on for months in Portland, Oregon, Washington state, and other Democrat shitholes letting these idiots think they can continue to get away with this violence.


How are those states related to what's happening in Kenosha Wisconsin?

The states as purple as you can get. The governor flipped from red to blue in the last election. Historically it's leaned red.

I stand by it. The catalyst here is a stupid ass cop shooting someone in the back. It shouldn't still be happening. Actual reform is needed

[Alfster]

You duplicitous shit, if you run the authorities for a long time and spend months not doing anything, then criminals get more and more bold while escalating things and it is the authorities that are at fault. This has been your argument when it suits you about Trump and Republicans and then in cases like this or Obama you backpeddle with shit like this. You are nothing more than a Leftist apologist and enabler.



But the "mostly peaceful protesters with hand weapons, shield, incendiaries, explosives and other weapons don't, right . . .



You have no fucking clue what is and isn't a threat, the man had already engaged police, he refused orders while weapons are drawn on him, then he reached for a deadly weapon. Fuck you for valuing a criminal's life more than a police officer. Fuck you for implying that some incident like that JUSTIFIES riots, assault, arson and worse just because a neighborhood is upset. And FUCK YOU for being part of the problem enabling all of this with your childish excuses and apologetics for criminals.

Im saying the authorities should have some good damn self awareness and realize how terrible shooting anyone in the back looks.

[Alfster]

From what I understand the dude that was shot in the head has died. Kind of figured that would happen, dude didn't look good in the video and his dipshit comrades were busy screeching for a medic instead of getting his ass to the hospital.

So that's two dudes shot and killed for trying to burn down a car lot and another dude will probably lose his arm because he tried to kill someone who was running away from the mob.

Is it time yet for the Democrat governor to admit he's a failure and ask the feds to step in?

How do you know they were burning down the car lot? I'm not disagreeing that that is what they were doing. It's just not what i see from the video.

[Tgo01]

How are those states related to what's happening in Kenosha Wisconsin?

I don't know how else I can explain it to you. At this point you are just purposefully not getting my point. You don't have to agree with my point, but don't act like I didn't even make one.

[Tgo01]

How do you know they were burning down the car lot? I'm not disagreeing that that is what they were doing. It's just not what i see from the video.

Just going by what I heard. The dude was shot in the middle of the car lot, that much is on video. I'm just gonna guess he wasn't there for a play date though.

[Alfster]

Just going by what I heard. The dude was shot in the middle of the car lot, that much is on video. I'm just gonna guess he wasn't there for a play date though.

Well yah - that's pretty clear. The alleged shooter has already been doxxed on social media, hopefully it won't escalate beyond what's already happened. Appears to have traveled across state lines with a weapon that he's not old enough to have. This will be a fucking disaster of a legal case. Even though it looks like self defense...if he's not legally allowed to have said weapon, is it still self defense?

[Neveragain]

How do you know they were burning down the car lot? I'm not disagreeing that that is what they were doing. It's just not what i see from the video.

Because they already burnt up one car lot?

[Neveragain]

Well yah - that's pretty clear. The alleged shooter has already been doxxed on social media, hopefully it won't escalate beyond what's already happened. Appears to have traveled across state lines with a weapon that he's not old enough to have. This will be a fucking disaster of a legal case. Even though it looks like self defense...if he's not legally allowed to have said weapon, is it still self defense?

I'm pretty sure you can own that weapon under the age of 18, though you would need an adult to purchase it. It's pretty common in the midwest for a male to own their first long gun by age 14.

Hell, my 7 year old grand daughter just got her first .22 single shot this year. They go out target practicing nearly every weekend, she loves it.

[Alfster]

Yeah I'm aware. Hunting age used to be 12, but now you can hunt legally at any age...after taking a course.

He can't legally be carrying it in the state without valid paperwork, and since it's not his ..the gun owner could also be at fault. If it's true that he's not 18 at least.

I signed paperwork saying I'd be at fault for a gun I purchased for my son to shoot cans and shit

[Taernath]

Apparently the kid just got caught.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenosha-protest-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-jacob-blake-a9690326.html


17-year-old arrested for murder and fleeing state after Kenosha shootings that left two dead

A 17-year-old Illinois resident has been arrested by police for first-degree murder after allegedly fatally shooting two Wisconsin protesters on Tuesday evening.

Kyle Rittenhouse of Antioch, Illinois, was charged in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and labelled as a "fugitive of justice", according to Lake County, Illinois Clerk of Courts public records first obtained by the Daily Dot.

The Antioch Police Department made the arrest on Wednesday after the suspect allegedly fled Wisconsin for his home state following the shooting.

"(The suspect) fled the state of Wisconsin with the intent to avoid prosecution for that offence," according to the document.

He faces charges of "first degree intentional homicide".

[Gelston]

I'm confused why the officers didn't detain him on the scene.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

It's high time business owners defend their shit. Cops aren't doing it, so protect your own.

I know, you are all gonna hate on this, but I really think it's time for American's to defend their property. And while I say that, I also believe in peaceful marches trying to affect change. I'm an enigma.

Blat blat blat, rioters dropped flat. That should be a campaign slogan.

[Parkbandit]

How do you know they were burning down the car lot? I'm not disagreeing that that is what they were doing. It's just not what i see from the video.

True.. they were probably just checking the stickers of the vehicles in an attempt to compare prices...

[Methais]

Fuck the police too - all they had to do was not shoot someone in the back who was no threat to them. All they had to do was be self aware enough to look around the country and go, yo...maybe I shouldn't shoot an unarmed man in the back.

I watched the clip today, and those retard cops had like 4732984723098432 opportunities to just tackle the guy when he was walking away from them going toward his vehicle.

Dumbasses.

[Methais]

True.. they were probably just checking the stickers of the vehicles in an attempt to compare prices...

Maybe it was a fire sale.

https://media.tenor.com/images/63322e6ff4ad43666f2c80067bb474dd/tenor.gif

[Parkbandit]

It's high time business owners defend their shit. Cops aren't doing it, so protect your own.

I know, you are all gonna hate on this, but I really think it's time for American's to defend their property. And while I say that, I also believe in peaceful marches trying to affect change. I'm an enigma.

Most of us never stopped.

[Methais]

Apparently the kid just got caught.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenosha-protest-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-jacob-blake-a9690326.html

Unless his lawyer is the public defender from My Cousin Vinny, I'll be surprised if that murder 1 charge doesn't get reduced to something else.

Not sure how the legality of the gun issue might play into it, but it's pretty clear in the video that he was being attacked by a mob of cunts screaming "GET HIM!!!" and whatever else before he shot anyone. While he was still on the ground. Surrounded by a mob of cunts trying to fuck him up. It's not like he just walked up to someone and blasted them in the face.

I used to watch My Cousin Vinny a lot, so obviously I'm an expert on this.

[Methais]

https://www.facebook.com/aftertheaction/videos/234028697943119/

Haven't watched most of this yet, but apparently this has some more context or something.

[Taernath]

Unless his lawyer is the public defender from My Cousin Vinny, I'll be surprised if that murder 1 charge doesn't get reduced to something else.

Not sure how the legality of the gun issue might play into it, but it's pretty clear in the video that he was being attacked by a mob of cunts screaming "GET HIM!!!" and whatever else before he shot anyone. While he was still on the ground. Surrounded by a mob of cunts trying to fuck him up. It's not like he just walked up to someone and blasted them in the face.

I used to watch My Cousin Vinny a lot, so obviously I'm an expert on this.

I believe he shot someone previously, and the mob came after him as he left.

The charges are going to depend a lot on intent. He had a heavy pro-police stance on social media, was involved with them in some kind of kiddie volunteer capacity, and traveled across state lines, armed, to attend/defend/fuck with a protest.


https://www.facebook.com/aftertheaction/videos/234028697943119/

Haven't watched most of this yet, but apparently this has some more context or something.

Also stop linking to facebook, grandma.

[Tgo01]

to attend/defend/fuck with a protest.

Can we at least refer to what's going on in Wisconsin as a riot? It has literally been an ongoing riot from the beginning and was never a protest, peaceful or otherwise.

These goons are now apparently sitting around just waiting for any excuse to riot as evidenced by what's happening here.

[Taernath]

It has literally been an ongoing riot from the beginning and was never a protest, peaceful or otherwise.

It has literally not, so no.

I'm not denying there's riots and violence going on, but that's not the whole story, just what generates clicks and views.

[Tgo01]

It has literally not, so no.

I'm not denying there's riots and violence going on, but that's not the whole story, just what generates clicks and views.

I'm just saying I don't think Kenosha can handle many more days of these peaceful protests.

[Alfster]

Can we at least refer to what's going on in Wisconsin as a riot? It has literally been an ongoing riot from the beginning and was never a protest, peaceful or otherwise.

These goons are now apparently sitting around just waiting for any excuse to riot as evidenced by what's happening here.

I'm inclined to agree that anything going on after curfew is straight up rioting.

[Taernath]

I'm just saying I don't think Kenosha can handle many more days of these peaceful protests.

And I'm just saying there wouldn't be many protests, peaceful or otherwise, if people weren't getting murdered in the streets.

[Methais]

I believe he shot someone previously, and the mob came after him as he left.

The charges are going to depend a lot on intent. He had a heavy pro-police stance on social media, was involved with them in some kind of kiddie volunteer capacity, and traveled across state lines, armed, to attend/defend/fuck with a protest.



Also stop linking to facebook, grandma.

That would require me to be unlazy enough to go find it on youtube, and well...fuck that. I'm lazy.

[Methais]

And I'm just saying there wouldn't be many protests, peaceful or otherwise, if people weren't getting murdered in the streets.

Imagine if they rioted anytime a black dude in Chicago got shot.

[Tgo01]

NBA teams decided to boycott their games today so the NBA made it official to cancel the next game for the whole league.

The players are also in talks about boycotting the rest of the season.

Not sure it's the smartest thing in the world to boycott your own sport after months of no sports where many fans realized there are other things to do in life but you do you, NBA players. Let me know when you are willing to give up your paycheck for the rest of the season, something tells me you'll be demanding that.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/Jamierodr14/status/1298611130009608199?s=20

Thank goodness the protests are largely peaceful, I would hate to see the city if the protests were only somewhat peaceful.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I honestly had no idea the NBA was playing again

[~Rocktar~]

Im saying the authorities should have some good damn self awareness and realize how terrible shooting anyone in the back looks.

Why the fuck does "how it looks" matter when someone is threatening your life? OH, yeah, right, because an immature, easily manipulated crowd of people might riot over it and then the authorities might ignore it for months on end letting it build until we have a hot civil war. Right. Fuck that. Don't fight the police, do what they say and let lawyers fight them in court. That's how adults handle things. And adults get to live to tell about it.

[~Rocktar~]

And I'm just saying there wouldn't be many protests, peaceful or otherwise, if people weren't getting murdered in the streets.

So you are saying that a large mob of adults is incapable of protesting without getting violent because of reasons?

Children can't control their behavior or emotions so you are basically equating the black community around the country to being children that can't control themselves. Some cop does something and they are forced to riot.

What a Leftist apologist.

[~Rocktar~]

I honestly had no idea the NBA was playing again

Pretty sure most people didn't care they were playing again.

[Taernath]

Imagine if they rioted anytime a black dude in Chicago got shot.

Agreed completely. Gun violence is a big problem.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Children can't control their behavior or emotions so you are basically equating the black community around the country to being children that can't control themselves. Some cop does something and they are forced to riot.

I wouldn't insult the black community with a blanket statement like that. It's snowflakes of all colors who think they are SJW and this is Nazi Germany. It's idiocy at it's apex, nothing to do with race at all.

[Jeril]

Agreed completely. Gun violence is a big problem.

Yah, because guns are the problem........ Nothing to do with a lack of proper education among other things.

[Taernath]

Yah, because guns are the problem........ Nothing to do with a lack of proper education among other things.

If you include easy access to guns in "among other things" then I think we more or less agree.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Bitch please. Access to guns and education has nothing to do with it.

It's dumb people or the mentally ill making bad decisions. Period. Has nothing to do with education or access.

[Solkern]

Bitch please. Access to guns and education has nothing to do with it.

It's dumb people or the mentally ill making bad decisions. Period. Has nothing to do with education or access.


it's dumb people, and unreported mentally ill people, that can easily get a gun is the big issue imo. 98.5% of all gun applications have been approved, with over 3 million application denied due to background checks

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/categories-of-prohibited-people/



edited: to correct information.

[Alfster]

Why the fuck does "how it looks" matter when someone is threatening your life? OH, yeah, right, because an immature, easily manipulated crowd of people might riot over it and then the authorities might ignore it for months on end letting it build until we have a hot civil war. Right. Fuck that. Don't fight the police, do what they say and let lawyers fight them in court. That's how adults handle things. And adults get to live to tell about it.

Look dude. I get it. You're scared of a scary black man walking towards his car. Your partner even has a hold of his shirt, but go ahead. Fire away.

There was so much that could have happened that didn't. Again. Have some fucking common sense as a law officer. It's not hard. This shouldn't continue to happen.

But I get it. That was a threatening man to you. It doesn't mean it is a justified shooting.

[Taernath]

Bitch please. Access to guns and education has nothing to do with it.

It's dumb people or the mentally ill making bad decisions. Period. Has nothing to do with education or access.

Dumb/mentally ill people + access to guns = ???

[Solkern]

Dumb/mentally ill people + access to guns = ???

I still like Chris rock's idea. fuck gun control. we need bullet control!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db0Y4qIZ4PA

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Dumb/mentally ill people + access to guns = ???

+ access to knives?
+ access to cars?
+ access to the internet...

I can go on, but I hope you get my point. It's not guns. It's people.

[Solkern]

+ access to knives?
+ access to cars?
+ access to the internet...

I can go on, but I hope you get my point. It's not guns. It's people.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

To kill someone with a knife.. yeah that is a lot more difficult than with a gun.

Cars main purpose aren't an instrument of violence.

Same goes with the internet.

[Taernath]

+ access to knives?

Lot harder to kill people with a knife, which is why armies switched to guns a few hundred years ago.


+ access to cars?

Those are highly regulated by comparison and are similar to what I'd like to see gun control modeled on. Mandatory training? Definitely. Exams/safety tests? Yes, please. Insurance/registration? Hell yeah. And I say this as a gun owner, by the way.


+ access to the internet...

Might be a good idea, but I think the politics forum here would die.


I can go on, but I hope you get my point. It's not guns. It's people.

It's people WITH guns.

[Tgo01]

Well this is interesting. (https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-officials-name-officer-who-shot-jacob-blake-reveal-that-blake-had-a-knife)

So last night the bullshit narrative that Jacob Blake was some sort of saint who was breaking up a fight when the fascist pigs shot him in the back on his way to deliver meals to the homeless was destroyed, turned out he was trespassing on his girlfriend's property and took her car keys and wouldn't return them, prompting the girlfriend to call the police. Dispatch informed the officers the suspect had warrants out for his arrest.

And now this bit of news. Turns out the cops DID use their tasers but they were ineffective. The officers DID try to place Blake under arrest but he resisted and walked towards his car. Blake ADMITTED he had a knife during this incident. The officer who shot Blake tried to pull him away from his car by his shirt and when that proved useless he finally resorted to shooting him.

So let's recap:

The cops were there to ARREST BLAKE. They weren't called there to break up a fight between two women that Blake had already broken up like the lies that spread like wildfire suggested.
The cops knew he had warrants out for his arrest before they even showed up on the scene.
Blake was armed with a knife.
The cops used their tasers first.
The cops tried placing Blake under arrest but he resisted and walked away.
The cop tried to physically prevent Blake from entering his car.
Finally as a last resort the cop shot Blake. Remember the video I posted like half a dozen times a couple of nights ago which shows why it's a bad idea to be a police officer and allowing a dangerous suspect to reach into his car? Yeah.

Honest question for you all who swallowed down the original bullshit narrative: do you feel even the slightest bit stupid that you keep being lied to and you keep believing it without waiting for the facts?

You were lied to and manipulated about George Floyd and you were lied to and manipulated about Jacob Blake.

But something tells me you don't care. You'll wake up tomorrow eagerly awaiting your daily dose of bullshit so you can rage about it on the internet while cheering on actual rioters and anarchists hundreds/thousands of miles away from your home all the while saying "That darn Drumpf lies and manipulates soooooo much!!!"

[Tgo01]

Store owner sobs after business of 40 years is burned down during Kenosha riots (https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-store-owner-in-tears-as-she-sees-business-burnt-to-ground/?utm_source=reddit.com)


“The damage to our building and the cost to replace the exterior damage and to top it off to replace everything stolen is going to be catastrophic … at this point we will be closing down completely.”

This must be an example of those largely peaceful protests that have been happening in Kenosha I was told about.

Be sure when a gang of 20+ Antifa/BLM goons get in your face and threaten you that you raise that fist of yours like a good little sheep.

[Jeril]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/

To kill someone with a knife.. yeah that is a lot more difficult than with a gun.

Cars main purpose aren't an instrument of violence.

Same goes with the internet.

I know you haven't been here for it. But we used to have this debate with Latrin somewhat often. It has been proven that human against human violence doesn't decrease when you remove the guns. It will decrease the rate of suicides though.

In either case the solution isn't to remove guns if you truly want to fix the problem.



Lot harder to kill people with a knife, which is why armies switched to guns a few hundred years ago.



Those are highly regulated by comparison and are similar to what I'd like to see gun control modeled on. Mandatory training? Definitely. Exams/safety tests? Yes, please. Insurance/registration? Hell yeah. And I say this as a gun owner, by the way.



Might be a good idea, but I think the politics forum here would die.



It's people WITH guns.

You've been here when Latrin was. I don't know why you are trying to pretend that guns are the problem with human on human violence.

[Solkern]

Well this is interesting. (https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-officials-name-officer-who-shot-jacob-blake-reveal-that-blake-had-a-knife)

So last night the bullshit narrative that Jacob Blake was some sort of saint who was breaking up a fight when the fascist pigs shot him in the back on his way to deliver meals to the homeless was destroyed, turned out he was trespassing on his girlfriend's property and took her car keys and wouldn't return them, prompting the girlfriend to call the police. Dispatch informed the officers the suspect had warrants out for his arrest.

you do realize some of what you said, happened months before? And has nothing to do with what just happened? It hasn’t been confirmed if the officers knew he had An active warrant or not


And now this bit of news. Turns out the cops DID use their tasers but they were ineffective. The officers DID try to place Blake under arrest but he resisted and walked towards his car. Blake ADMITTED he had a knife during this incident. The officer who shot Blake tried to pull him away from his car by his shirt and when that proved useless he finally resorted to shooting him.


That still doesn’t justify shooting a man 7 times in the back while his children are in the car. Telling the police officer he has a knife, isn’t grounds to kill someone. He made no threatening gestures or attacked the officers. I mean he told the officers he had a knife, if I was going to do something stupid like attack an officer with a knife, I sure as hell wouldn’t tell them I have a knife in my car.
There was also a possibility of injuring and possibly killing a innocent child. Which is also another reason he shouldn’t have been shot at.


So let's recap:

The cops were there to ARREST BLAKE. They weren't called there to break up a fight between two women that Blake had already broken up like the lies that spread like wildfire suggested.
The cops knew he had warrants out for his arrest before they even showed up on the scene.
Blake was armed with a knife.
The cops used their tasers first.
The cops tried placing Blake under arrest but he resisted and walked away.
The cop tried to physically prevent Blake from entering his car.
Finally as a last resort the cop shot Blake. Remember the video I posted like half a dozen times a couple of nights ago which shows why it's a bad idea to be a police officer and allowing a dangerous suspect to reach into his car?"

1. It hasn’t been confirmed in the officers were aware of an active warrant or not.
2. He wasn’t armed with a knife. He admitted having one in the car. But never had it on his person.
3. A man saying he has a knife, without making any threatening gestures or actions at any time to a police officer or anyone isn’t grounds to shoot someone 7 times in the back.

NOW. If the officers stepped back to a safe distance, and if Blake produced the knife and did any threatening gestures towards an officer, yes using a gun would be warranted.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You are retarded.

[Solkern]

I know you haven't been here for it. But we used to have this debate with Latrin somewhat often. It has been proven that human against human violence doesn't decrease when you remove the guns. It will decrease the rate of suicides though.

In either case the solution isn't to remove guns if you truly want to fix the problem..

I’m sure the amount of killings would decrease but not violence. There are plenty examples of where the removal of guns have in fact decreased the amount of murders in a country.

[Taernath]

I know you haven't been here for it. But we used to have this debate with Latrin somewhat often. It has been proven that human against human violence doesn't decrease when you remove the guns. It will decrease the rate of suicides though.

In either case the solution isn't to remove guns if you truly want to fix the problem.

You've been here when Latrin was. I don't know why you are trying to pretend that guns are the problem with human on human violence.

That must have been a hell of a landmark PC thread which 'proved' that. Mind linking the post?

My argument isn't and never has been about reducing overall violence, by the way.

[Jeril]

I’m sure the amount of killings would decrease but not violence. There are plenty examples of where the removal of guns have in fact decreased the amount of murders in a country.

Murder rates were unchanged.

[~Rocktar~]

you do realize some of what you said, happened months before? And has nothing to do with what just happened? It hasn’t been confirmed if the officers knew he had An active warrant or not




That still doesn’t justify shooting a man 7 times in the back while his children are in the car. Telling the police officer he has a knife, isn’t grounds to kill someone. He made no threatening gestures or attacked the officers. I mean he told the officers he had a knife, if I was going to do something stupid like attack an officer with a knife, I sure as hell wouldn’t tell them I have a knife in my car.
There was also a possibility of injuring and possibly killing a innocent child. Which is also another reason he shouldn’t have been shot at.


1. It hasn’t been confirmed in the officers were aware of an active warrant or not.
2. He wasn’t armed with a knife. He admitted having one in the car. But never had it on his person.
3. A man saying he has a knife, without making any threatening gestures or actions at any time to a police officer or anyone isn’t grounds to shoot someone 7 times in the back.

NOW. If the officers stepped back to a safe distance, and if Blake produced the knife and did any threatening gestures towards an officer, yes using a gun would be warranted.

He was armed with a knife. Here is the picture from the video.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/118261243_10224849101758190_515195814690126876_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=BTTQvAJ2WIsAX_fP6AY&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=ecea500c9b83583e9f21f01fccf64464&oe=5F6CCF05

So, to recap for your benefit since you have ignored all previous actual evidence.

Warrants which is why the officers were there in the first place.
Violent conflict with officers on the scene.
Already tasered. (How about that, less than lethal option was used and didn't work)
Went to car to get gun in the car.
Failed to obey police orders.

Children are irreverent to the argument and just a Leftist dog whistle. Further the windows are tinted very dark, likely illegally dark so the cops could not see the kids. Still irrelivent other than to try and make this criminal scumbag somehow as innocent as the driven snow.

[Alfster]

Well this is interesting. (https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-officials-name-officer-who-shot-jacob-blake-reveal-that-blake-had-a-knife)

So last night the bullshit narrative that Jacob Blake was some sort of saint who was breaking up a fight when the fascist pigs shot him in the back on his way to deliver meals to the homeless was destroyed, turned out he was trespassing on his girlfriend's property and took her car keys and wouldn't return them, prompting the girlfriend to call the police. Dispatch informed the officers the suspect had warrants out for his arrest.

And now this bit of news. Turns out the cops DID use their tasers but they were ineffective. The officers DID try to place Blake under arrest but he resisted and walked towards his car. Blake ADMITTED he had a knife during this incident. The officer who shot Blake tried to pull him away from his car by his shirt and when that proved useless he finally resorted to shooting him.

So let's recap:

The cops were there to ARREST BLAKE. They weren't called there to break up a fight between two women that Blake had already broken up like the lies that spread like wildfire suggested.
The cops knew he had warrants out for his arrest before they even showed up on the scene.
Blake was armed with a knife.
The cops used their tasers first.
The cops tried placing Blake under arrest but he resisted and walked away.
The cop tried to physically prevent Blake from entering his car.
Finally as a last resort the cop shot Blake. Remember the video I posted like half a dozen times a couple of nights ago which shows why it's a bad idea to be a police officer and allowing a dangerous suspect to reach into his car? Yeah.

Honest question for you all who swallowed down the original bullshit narrative: do you feel even the slightest bit stupid that you keep being lied to and you keep believing it without waiting for the facts?

You were lied to and manipulated about George Floyd and you were lied to and manipulated about Jacob Blake.

But something tells me you don't care. You'll wake up tomorrow eagerly awaiting your daily dose of bullshit so you can rage about it on the internet while cheering on actual rioters and anarchists hundreds/thousands of miles away from your home all the while saying "That darn Drumpf lies and manipulates soooooo much!!!"

No. How was this officers life in dire need to shoot the suspect? He had a knife. There were plenty of officers around. Only one felt that it met the standard of shooting the suspect.

This is why reform is needed. A gun isn't always needed. None of the officers were in imminent danger, yet that's the tool this one cop decided was needed.

I'm in no way defending the violence that has come from this. It's time to sit down and discuss better ways to handle these situations.

[beldannon5]

anyone else think tasers need to be more powerful? i know you have the other side of the argument you could hurt someone, but lots of tasering not working lately

[Tgo01]

No. How was this officers life in dire need to shoot the suspect?

Do I really need to link to that video again?

Here's a thought: Don't fucking resist! Don't run away! Don't reach into your car!

Just some crazy ideas I have here.


A gun isn't always needed.

You're right, which is why they used tasers and physical restraint first and those didn't work. So what is between tasers/physical restraint and a gun that the police officers should have deployed? I gotta hear this one.

[Tgo01]

No. How was this officers life in dire need to shoot the suspect? He had a knife. There were plenty of officers around. Only one felt that it met the standard of shooting the suspect.

This is why reform is needed. A gun isn't always needed. None of the officers were in imminent danger, yet that's the tool this one cop decided was needed.

I'm in no way defending the violence that has come from this. It's time to sit down and discuss better ways to handle these situations.


Honest question for you all who swallowed down the original bullshit narrative: do you feel even the slightest bit stupid that you keep being lied to and you keep believing it without waiting for the facts?

By the way can I mark you down for a "no" to this question?

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1298806368670023680?s=20

Black dude clearly puts a gun in his mouth and pulls the trigger. Narrative being tossed around was he was shot by police and because of that obvious lie riots have once again started in Minneapolis.

Just stop already with the nonsense that these are largely peaceful protests demanding change. They are rioters and anarchists just waiting for the excuse to riot, even if they have to make that excuse up.

[~Rocktar~]

https://youtu.be/n_7QHRNFOKE

[FlayedAngel]

Can we at least refer to what's going on in Wisconsin as a riot? It has literally been an ongoing riot from the beginning and was never a protest, peaceful or otherwise.

Just stop already with the nonsense that these are largely peaceful protests demanding change. They are rioters and anarchists just waiting for the excuse to riot, even if they have to make that excuse up.

You were lied to and manipulated about George Floyd and you were lied to and manipulated about Jacob Blake.

But something tells me you don't care. You'll wake up tomorrow eagerly awaiting your daily dose of bullshit so you can rage about it on the internet while cheering on actual rioters and anarchists hundreds/thousands of miles away from your home all the while saying "That darn Drumpf lies and manipulates soooooo much!!!"
This compulsive need to keep insisting upon your dogmatic bullshit isn't necessary -- we already know how you feel about black people, I promise you.



And I'm just saying there wouldn't be many protests, peaceful or otherwise, if people weren't getting murdered in the streets.
Agreed -- there wouldn't be protests that turn into riots if arrests didn't keep turning into murders.



He was armed with a knife. Here is the picture from the video.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/118261243_10224849101758190_515195814690126876_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=BTTQvAJ2WIsAX_fP6AY&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=ecea500c9b83583e9f21f01fccf64464&oe=5F6CCF05https://i.etsystatic.com/10149031/r/il/74e3e4/2476851257/il_794xN.2476851257_engb.jpg

Yeah, that grainy-ass photo is hardly proof of anything -- as far as I know, the person who shot the video said he wasn't armed.

[FlayedAngel]

I know you haven't been here for it. But we used to have this debate with Latrin somewhat often. It has been proven that human against human violence doesn't decrease when you remove the guns. It will decrease the rate of suicides though.

In either case the solution isn't to remove guns if you truly want to fix the problem.
I'm not really surprised about the debate, but without looking into it further, I find that particular assertion somewhat dubious.

Guns aren't the only cause of human-on-human violence, but they certainly do make for far more efficient lethality if the situation presents itself. Personally, I'd favor more stringent gun control (background checks, required safety courses, and so on) over any kind of gun abolishment, because I feel it's disingenuous to say that "taking away" all guns would solve every crime of that nature... but it's equally disingenuous to say that the presence and availability of firearms doesn't factor in at all.

I don't think there's a catch-all solution to gun violence.

Ultimately, I'd agree that a combination of social factors (poverty, environmental conditioning, mental illness and the inadequate access to treatment for such, etcetera) are largely responsible -- it's just a matter of how we want to address those issues, and if given a choice, I'd honestly rather see more robust social support that might help forestall said conditions.

[FlayedAngel]

Why the fuck does "how it looks" matter when someone is threatening your life? OH, yeah, right, because an immature, easily manipulated crowd of people might riot over it and then the authorities might ignore it for months on end letting it build until we have a hot civil war. Right. Fuck that. Don't fight the police, do what they say and let lawyers fight them in court. That's how adults handle things. And adults get to live to tell about it.
Tell that to Tamir Rice, Philando Castile, or any number of other unarmed people (https://www.reneeater.com/on-monuments-blog/tag/list+of+unarmed+black+people+killed+by+police) who've been killed -- there's a simple and obvious reason why so many people are protesting, and it's not some grand subversive political ploy.



anyone else think tasers need to be more powerful? i know you have the other side of the argument you could hurt someone, but lots of tasering not working lately
If killing people is truly the only option to be had in these cases, then yeah... I'd say we need better subdual tactics for law enforcement, ASAP.

[Tgo01]

there's a simple and obvious reason why so many people are protesting

They are even largely peacefully protesting in Minneapolis again because a black man committed suicide. When will these cops stop forcing people to shoot themselves?!

What an easily manipulated tool you are.

[Tgo01]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgZnV57UcAAwH6i?format=png&name=small

When did FlayedAngel get a job at CNN?

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298829917136678912?s=20

A bunch of largely peaceful "counter protesters" showed up at a conservative rally where upon a weak ass piece if shit Democrat attacked a woman wearing a MAGA hat.

Keep up with your silence and downplaying as your party literally tears this country apart.

[Tgo01]

This compulsive need to keep insisting upon your dogmatic bullshit isn't necessary -- we already know how you feel about black people, I promise you.



Agreed -- there wouldn't be protests that turn into riots if arrests didn't keep turning into murders.




Yeah, that grainy-ass photo is hardly proof of anything -- as far as I know, the person who shot the video said he wasn't armed.


Honest question for you all who swallowed down the original bullshit narrative: do you feel even the slightest bit stupid that you keep being lied to and you keep believing it without waiting for the facts?

I'm assuming I can go ahead and mark you down as a "no" for this question too?

You were like the PC poster boy for this bullshit narrative too. In fact I'm pretty sure you were the only one spewing this bullshit.


From my understanding, he was intervening to try and break up a domestic dispute in progress... don't know much beyond that. While there might be a set of circumstances that explains why he was shot several times in the back while calmly getting into a car


Yeah, walking to your car totally warrants getting shot several times in the back.

Lies. Lies. Lies. And more lies. And yet you just brush that aside and call everyone who disagrees with you a racist anyways. Do you have any shame at all?

"He broke up a fight then was calmly walking to his car!" Yeah except the cops were there to ARREST HIM for the domestic dispute in progress. They tried to arrest him. They used their tasers. They tried to physically restrain him. But facts mean nothing to you. Remember yesterday when you laughably said I had to prove to you that I care about facts and sources and common sense before you would engage me? Yeah, way to prove what an absolute joke you are less than 24 hours later with this shit.

[Tgo01]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYzZxWXYAAREcd?format=jpg&name=small

"Other than a knife he was unarmed!" The media is such a fucking joke.

[Candor]

"Other than a knife he was unarmed!" The media is such a fucking joke.

Reality check: A knife is a deadly weapon. If you reach for a deadly weapon, police are going to shoot you.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298502384654651392?s=20

Looks like open warfare in the streets of Kenosha tonight. If only Democrats weren't so useless and actually implemented law and order instead of allowing thugs to run loose in the street.

No telling exactly what happened here (who belongs to which group of peaceful protesters or what happened before this video started), but in the video a group of people are chasing after a guy with a rifle. One person knocks him over and someone shouts to get him so about 5 or 6 people charge him while the gunman is on the ground. It looks like the gunman shoots 3 people, two of which walk away with apparent injuries, the third remains motionless on the ground. After this everyone holds their hands up and backs away from the gunman. Considering someone starts screaming "MEDIC!" right after someone is shot I'm gonna guess the group of goons attacking the gunman are BLM/Antifa since they like to think they are in a military and have "field medics" with them when they go causing trouble. Also since the gunman was running TOWARDS the police and immediately surrendered when they approached further leads me to believe the goons are BLM/Antifa since they don't typically run towards the police for help.

Whoever the gunman is they are smart. People gotta start arming themselves and defending themselves against these goons because as evidenced in Kenosha, Portland, and other Democrat shitholes the Democrats don't want to enforce the law and will allow these goons to run wild.

Apparently 3 of the peaceful protesters this teen shot had lengthy criminal records. You can't even make this shit up:

First up is one of the men who tried to beat him to death who is a registered sex offender:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgbUvZ9XcAc2Fnx?format=jpg&name=large

This peaceful sex offender is one of the men who died.

Next up is the peaceful protester who tried to peacefully set a car dealership on fire and was shot in the head and died:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgbWxb5WsAEOUOE?format=jpg&name=large

Domestic abuse, strangulation, battery, and false imprisonment. What a peaceful guy.

Lastly is the guy who he disarmed, quite literally. This is the guy at the end who had a pistol and tried to attack the teenager as he lay on the ground:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgbY_5QXcAEALk9?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Burglary and theft.

But the leftwing media is busy praising these guys as peaceful protesters and the teenager who shot them (and only them and others who attacked him! even though he was surrounded by dozens of bloodthirsty savages who wouldn't have hesitated in beating him to death) is apparently a racist Neo-Nazi.

The Democrats are an absolute joke, their media lap dogs are an absolute joke, and the media's lap dogs are the biggest joke of all.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

No idea if that is all true, but if it is... that's some funny shit.

[Tgo01]

No idea if that is all true, but if it is... that's some funny shit.

Yeah these could be doctored images but I'm gonna choose to believe they are real. Clearly these people are deranged lunatics, of course deranged lunatics would be drawn to riots where they can kick the shit out of people and be applauded as heroes by the media.

Also forgot to note the images for the last guy I mentioned. It was difficult to tell from the video but these still images showed what this asshole was doing; he was pretending to surrender so the teen let his guard down THEN this piece of shit tried to shoot him with the pistol he was clearly carrying.

But remember it was a largely peaceful pistol.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1298845111401537538?s=20

Largely peaceful protesters in Kenosha are now doing the same shit the largely peaceful protesters in Portland are doing: going into neighborhoods at night to shine spotlights in people's home, shouting, screaming, banging drums, and they have added a new twist of lining the streets with cars and honking their horns.

So peaceful!

[Parkbandit]

I'm still in awe of the way this 17 year old handled himself though this. I would have put money on him having some military background and training the way he was so disciplined.

[~Rocktar~]

He did indeed have good trigger discipline in the face of being attacked by angry criminals. No matter the outcome, his life is ruined all because he chose not to be killed. And no matter what internet COD couch warriors say, living through that and taking another's life changes a person forever.

[Methais]

https://twitter.com/Jamierodr14/status/1298611130009608199?s=20

Thank goodness the protests are largely peaceful, I would hate to see the city if the protests were only somewhat peaceful.

https://i.imgur.com/upYF8Cz.png

[Methais]

Agreed completely. Inner city black on black violence is a big problem.

Fixed.

[Methais]

Store owner sobs after business of 40 years is burned down during Kenosha riots (https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-store-owner-in-tears-as-she-sees-business-burnt-to-ground/?utm_source=reddit.com)



This must be an example of those largely peaceful protests that have been happening in Kenosha I was told about.

Be sure when a gang of 20+ Antifa/BLM goons get in your face and threaten you that you raise that fist of yours like a good little sheep.

I hope every one of these business owners sues the fuck out of the city.

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/sAd5zhu.png

[Taernath]

I'm still in awe of the way this 17 year old handled himself though this. I would have put money on him having some military background and training the way he was so disciplined.

To me he looked scared out of his mind, like a kid in a very real, very adult situation. He wanted to play out his heroic police officer fantasy and save the town, but instead wound up shooting and killing multiple people and almost certainly threw away whatever life he had.

[Parkbandit]

I hope every one of these business owners sues the fuck out of the city.

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/sAd5zhu.png

I hope this father gets every penny of the 3 billion from Seattle: https://nypost.com/2020/08/26/dad-of-seattle-shooting-victim-files-3b-in-claims-against-city/

[Tgo01]

but instead wound up shooting and killing multiple people

Wound up shooting and killing multiple people that were trying to murder him, yes.

[Parkbandit]

To me he looked scared out of his mind, like a kid in a very real, very adult situation. He wanted to play out his heroic police officer fantasy and save the town, but instead wound up shooting and killing multiple people and almost certainly threw away whatever life he had.

Did we watch the same video? Here, watch it again (*** NSFW*** due to violence):

https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/igtics/shots_fired_man_defends_himself_from_getting/

Notice how he fell down.. and as the crowd of people were about to pounce on him, he was able to defend himself with minimal shots and minimal casualties.

4 shots, 3 perps hit. Hell, he even gave the one guy who hesitated for 1 second a 2nd chance to just run away and when he lunged, he fired.

He performed admirably under the circumstances. Don't know the 17 year old, what he stood for, why he was armed at the time, what transpired prior to this or anything but the clip itself... but it was clear the crowd wanted to beat the shit out of him and he feared for his life when he shot. As long as he was legally entitled to carry that firearm at the time of the shooting, this gets thrown out of court. He clearly defended himself in this clip.

[Tgo01]

Notice how he fell down.

What I didn't realize until earlier today when someone pointed it out to me is that he fell down because one of the people hit him in the back with a skateboard. These animals were out for blood. They knocked him to the ground then pounced on him like a bunch of jackals.

And you have sitting members of congress like noted racist Ayanna Pressley praising his criminal attackers and castigating him as a racist.

The Democrat party somehow becomes more and more evil with each passing day.

[Astray]

https://i.imgur.com/sAd5zhu.png

I'm all for pedophiles getting their brains turned to oatmeal.

[Methais]

This compulsive need to keep insisting upon your dogmatic bullshit isn't necessary -- we already know how you feel about black people, I promise you.

Do me a couple small favors...

Tell us how Tgo feels about black people

and

Explain which part(s) of anything you quoted in that post = Tgo hates black people and why they = that.

Because all I'm seeing is YOU DISAGREE SO YOU MUST BE RACIST!

[Methais]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298829917136678912?s=20

A bunch of largely peaceful "counter protesters" showed up at a conservative rally where upon a weak ass piece if shit Democrat attacked a woman wearing a MAGA hat.

Keep up with your silence and downplaying as your party literally tears this country apart.

Looks to me like that overgrown butterball midget got his ass beat by a woman. :lol:

[Methais]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYzZxWXYAAREcd?format=jpg&name=small

"Other than a knife he was unarmed!" The media is such a fucking joke.

Timothy McVeigh had bombs, but was otherwise unarmed.

[Tgo01]

The Washington Post is absolutely disgusting. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_mm-blake-protest-130am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-main_mm-blake-protest-130am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans)

Here is how they originally described this shooting situation:


After the first shots were fired after midnight, a young White man carrying a rifle began running north on Sheridan Road, away from a crowd of protesters. Video shows the armed man fall to the ground, and then fire multiple rounds into the crowd. Two more people fell to the ground, one shot in the arm and the other in the chest.

Yeah that's right, the teenager fell to the ground then just started shooting into the crowd for no reason. Not like he was pushed to the ground then someone shouted "GET HIM!" then dozens of people charged at him with 5 people jumping on him, one of which had a pistol and was trying to murder him. Naww! He just began firing into the crowd!

Oh but they edited the story! Surely they updated it with these silly facts I mention:


The shooting began at the gas station around 11:45 p.m. Tuesday, police said. After the first shots, a young White man carrying a rifle began running north on Sheridan Road, away from a crowd of protesters.

A Washington Post journalist who observed the scene saw the man with the rifle run by with several protesters in pursuit. He rolled into a sitting position, raised his gun and opened fire at his pursuers.

Well at least this time they mention that people were chasing him (in a roundabout way by referring to them as "pursuers".) But look at the way they are describing the situation now! He "rolled into a sitting position." Motherfucking ROLLED INTO A SITTING POSITION?! Like it was some sort of tactical move on his part instead of the reality which is his "pursuers" knocked him to the ground by hitting him with a skateboard.

He "fire(d) at his pursuers"? No. He fired at the people literally trying to kill him.

Honestly how is anyone okay with what these monsters did to this teenager and also okay with how the media is outright gaslighting the fuck out of everyone with this shit? You all fell for the original narrative of racist cop shoots black man in back for no reason, now you'll sit by and ignore the outright lies by the media in regards to this teenager because it doesn't suit their narrative or yours.

[Tgo01]

Timothy McVeigh had bombs, but was otherwise unarmed.

The Emperor had a Death Star, but was otherwise unarmed.

[Alfster]

As long as he was legally entitled to carry that firearm at the time of the shooting, this gets thrown out of court. He clearly defended himself in this clip.

That right there is going to be the interesting part from a legal perspective. Wisconsin laws require you to be 18 to open carry, which he is not. He's going to be tried as an adult, so does that mean he's legally an adult? Whoever purchased that gun is also going to be fucked.

WI statute 175.37

Possession of a dangerous weapon by anyone under 18 is a class A misdemeanor. Giving/loaning/selling a dangerous weapon to someone under 18 is a class I felony.

WI statute 948.60

Defenses to prosecution under this statute:

Target practice under the supervision of an adult
Members of armed forces or police under 18 in the line of duty
Hunting (either with an adult or having passed hunter's safety)

[Tgo01]

That right there is going to be the interesting part from a legal perspective. Wisconsin laws require you to be 18 to open carry, which he is not. He's going to be tried as an adult, so does that mean he's legally an adult? Whoever purchased that gun is also going to be fucked.

WI statute 175.37

Possession of a dangerous weapon by anyone under 18 is a class A misdemeanor. Giving/loaning/selling a dangerous weapon to someone under 18 is a class I felony.

WI statute 948.60

Defenses to prosecution under this statute:

Target practice under the supervision of an adult
Members of armed forces or police under 18 in the line of duty
Hunting (either with an adult or having passed hunter's safety)

I see everyone pointing to this law and him supposedly crossing state lines (although I have read both he lives in Wisconsin and Illinois so who even knows) as some sort of proof that he's a dangerous individual and deserves to be locked up in prison forever.

Like, sure, charge him with this age thing and whatever the law people are bitching about in regards to crossing state lines, but first degree murder based on what we saw in this video? Has everyone lost their minds?

[FlayedAngel]

They are even largely peacefully protesting in Minneapolis again because a black man committed suicide. When will these cops stop forcing people to shoot themselves?!

What an easily manipulated tool you are.
No, that's another idiotic talking point you keep regurgitating because you think it's easy way to undermine the whole thing -- stop being delusional.

I'm sure there are some people that jumped the gun based on that misinformation, but it's hardly the primary reason people are pissed... and I'd wager that most know by now.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgZnV57UcAAwH6i?format=png&name=small

When did FlayedAngel get a job at CNN?
You do realize that the ratio of me saying that to you parroting it like a child is about 1 to 100, right?

I already explained this, but please... feel free to continue to spew the same futile nonsense if it makes you feel better.

[Tgo01]

No, that's another idiotic talking point you keep regurgitating because you think it's easy way to undermine the whole thing -- stop being delusional.

No that's the ENTIRE fucking point. You sit here and claim this is all about protecting black lives from murderous pigs yet when a black man literally shoots himself in the head the death is blamed on cops and people riot anyways.

Of course you don't want me to talk about this because it completely destroys your entire idiotic argument. You can no longer claim these riots are about police brutality when facts mean shit to the rioters because they'll just start rioting even if a cop didn't do shit.

Pull your fucking head out of your damn ass already.

People are losing their lives, their homes, their businesses, and their livelihoods. It's time to stop the downplaying, stop the coddling, and own up to the facts that these are riots and they need to be stopped. This isn't fucking Antifa playtime dressing up as communists in Portland and throwing eggs at people. This is fucking serious. Be an adult.

[Alfster]

I see everyone pointing to this law and him supposedly crossing state lines (although I have read both he lives in Wisconsin and Illinois so who even knows) as some sort of proof that he's a dangerous individual and deserves to be locked up in prison forever.

Like, sure, charge him with this age thing and whatever the law people are bitching about in regards to crossing state lines, but first degree murder based on what we saw in this video? Has everyone lost their minds?

Well you lose your right to self defense if it's during a crime. Him openly carrying was a crime, so should that be the standard? I dunno the answer.

I stand by my first statement. Every person involved in the scenario is a moron.

[Astray]

Every person involved in the scenario is a moron.

Yep.

[Parkbandit]

Well you lose your right to self defense if it's during a crime. Him openly carrying was a crime, so should that be the standard? I dunno the answer.


Wait.. what?

[Tgo01]

Well you lose your right to self defense if it's during a crime. Him openly carrying was a crime, so should that be the standard? I dunno the answer.

That's REALLLLLLLLY stretching it. Typically those kinds of exceptions are for scenarios where you're like committing armed robbery, you can't then claim you shot your victim in self defense because you're the one who was committing a crime which caused the other person to respond to your actions.

The idea that this teenager simply existing while possessing a firearm he's 1 year too young to carry means he can't defend himself from others who literally want to murder him is just about the biggest bunch of bullshit ever and if this is the theory the state is going with then this is perhaps the biggest miscarriage of justice I have ever heard.

[Solkern]

That's REALLLLLLLLY stretching it. Typically those kinds of exceptions are for scenarios where you're like committing armed robbery, you can't then claim you shot your victim in self defense because you're the one who was committing a crime which caused the other person to respond to your actions.

The idea that this teenager simply existing while possessing a firearm he's 1 year too young to carry means he can't defend himself from others who literally want to murder him is just about the biggest bunch of bullshit ever and if this is the theory the state is going with then this is perhaps the biggest miscarriage of justice I have ever heard.


Doesn’t change the fact, he went to a protest, with a loaded weapon, he should not be carrying. He honestly shouldn’t have been there in the first place. He obviously went there with a loaded gun and intent. What that intent exactly was.. no idea.. but it’s not like it was the wrong place at the wrong time type of scenario. He knew it was illegal for him to carry that loaded gun... and going to a protest with a loaded gun with his mentality of I need to police this place... doesn’t look good for him.

I’m also sure if he was a BLM protestor and this situation happened, you wouldn’t be defending him. You’d be saying he deserves death row.

[Tgo01]

Doesn’t change the fact, he went to a protest, with a loaded weapon, he should not be carrying. He honestly shouldn’t be there in the first place. He obviously went there with a loaded gun and intent. What that intent exactly was.. no idea.. but it’s not like he was it was the wrong place at the wrong time type of scenario.

Who gives a flying fuck what his intent was. Who gives a flying fuck why he was there. We can argue all fucking day if he "shouldn't have been there" or if the rioters "shouldn't have been there" or if the fucking national guard "should have been there" if the useless governor had accepted more help from the National Guard.

None of that fucking matters. Absolutely fucking none of that matters. All that matters is this: was he defending himself from armed hooligans who very clearly wanted to kick the shit out of him at best and wanted to straight up murder him at worst? The answer is a fucking clear as fucking day YES.

[Solkern]

Who gives a flying fuck what his intent was. Who gives a flying fuck why he was there. We can argue all fucking day if he "shouldn't have been there" or if the rioters "shouldn't have been there" or if the fucking national guard "should have been there" if the useless governor had accepted more help from the National Guard.

None of that fucking matters. Absolutely fucking none of that matters. All that matters is this: was he defending himself from armed hooligans who very clearly wanted to kick the shit out of him at best and wanted to straight up murder him at worst? The answer is a fucking clear as fucking day YES.


Umm, sorry to burst your bubble but in law INTENT does matter, whether you like it or not.

[Solkern]

His mentality “I’m going to police these protestors”
He brings a loaded gun with the intent to police these protestors, with the intent to use the gun if and when it’s necessary.
He killed multiple people.

That does not look good for him.

[Tgo01]

Umm, sorry to burst your bubble but in law INTENT does matter, whether you like it or not.

No fucking flying fuck shit "intent" matters. Fucking fuck's sake.

Was Joe's INTENT to murder Jane? Yes. That fucking matters!

Did this teenager go there with the INTENT of shooting people? Clearly fucking not because he only shot the people who physically attacked him. Each and every single person who was shot was someone who fucking attacked him. EACH AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THEM. Even the cowardly piece of shit who pretended to surrender so the teen would drop his guard so he could attempt to shoot him in the head with the PISTOL IN HIS FUCKING HAND. THAT motherfucker should be charged with attempted murder, HE FUCKING HAD THE INTENT TO MURDER SOMEONE. That's motherfucking intent you fucking troglodyte.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

What was the intent of the rioters?

[Tgo01]

with the intent to use the gun if and when it’s necessary.

That's not a fucking crime. If the intent of "I'm going to use this gun if and when it's necessary" then fucking no one could use a firearm to defend themselves.

Fuck's sake. You are perhaps the most disingenuous person on the PC.

If his intent was "I'm gonna go to these riots and shoot me up some commies. YEEEEEEE HAAWWWWWW!" Then you would have a fucking point. You can't just say "He had the intent to do something! Literally anything! Therefore guilty of murder!" That's the fucking stupidest thing I have ever fucking heard in my life, and I have read over 100 pages in this thread alone of stupid fucking shit.

[Taernath]

Who gives a flying fuck what his intent was. ... None of that fucking matters.



No fucking flying fuck shit "intent" matters. Fucking fuck's sake.

lol

[Solkern]

lol

I literally laughed when I read that.

[Taernath]

I literally laughed when I read that.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BriskAbsoluteGourami-small.gif

[Solkern]

That's not a fucking crime. If the intent of "I'm going to use this gun if and when it's necessary" then fucking no one could use a firearm to defend themselves.

Fuck's sake. You are perhaps the most disingenuous person on the PC.

If his intent was "I'm gonna go to these riots and shoot me up some commies. YEEEEEEE HAAWWWWWW!" Then you would have a fucking point. You can't just say "He had the intent to do something! Literally anything! Therefore guilty of murder!" That's the fucking stupidest thing I have ever fucking heard in my life, and I have read over 100 pages in this thread alone of stupid fucking shit.

He Illegally brought a loaded gun to a BLM protest to police the place, and killed two people. Sorry, in the eyes of the law, that’s intent enough.
He shouldn’t have gone there, he shouldn’t have had a weapon. He fucked up. And he’s gonna be locked up for a long time.
It’s sad what happened, but he made his choice, and will suffer the consequences of our laws.

You believe in “law and order”. He was arrested on first degree intentional Homicide, even with the video out there. You trust the police? So obviously they know as well, or they wouldn’t have charged him with that specific charge.

"What I can't tell you is what led to that disturbance, what led to use of deadly force," Miskinis said.

He could have done nothing, or he could have started shit and instigated everything.
I’m personally leaning towards the latter, based on his mentality, his OWN words, and what he brought with him to the protest.

[Tgo01]

lol

You can both be disingenuous fucks all you want.

Solkern just said he had "intent." That means fucking shit. Every person has "intent." The question is did he have an intent to commit a crime? Clearly fucking not because as we can clearly see he only shot people who were physically attacking him and who tried to shoot him with a motherfucking gun.

A 17 year old might have his entire life thrown away and spend the rest of his life in prison by overzealous prosecutors who want to charge him with murder when anyone with 2 fucking eyes can see this was self defense and all you people can do is talk about bullshit that doesn't matter like "HURR DURR! He had intent!"

I have intent to play GS, what the fuck does that have to do with anything if I have to defend himself later tonight from armed home intruders? Absolfuckinglutely nothing.

[Tgo01]

He Illegally brought a loaded gun to a BLM protest to police the place, and killed two people.

Riot. Fucking say it: BLM RIOT.


Sorry, in the eyes of the law, that’s intent enough.

There you fucking go again. INTENT TO DO WHAT? "Police the place"? What the fuck does that even mean in this context? What are you trying to say? Use your fucking words.

I have intent to drink a fucking milkshake tonight while armed with a kitchen knife, guess I can't defend myself if BLM rioters start breaking into my home tonight.

It's like you watched one episode of "Law and Order" where they mentioned intent a few times and you're just parroting back that word now.

[Gelston]

He can and should be charged for illegal possession. He didn't murder anyone. It was all in reaction to things done to him.

This sums it all up nicely, but everything is on video and you can see for yourself.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/118534542_10225026305793581_7838194317141197800_o. jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=yTFFD6e4te0AX_8mPhR&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&tp=7&oh=8d574d7381985a44e5ac13ec1ea56c41&oe=5F6C67B8

[Solkern]

Riot. Fucking say it: BLM RIOT.



There you fucking go again. INTENT TO DO WHAT? "Police the place"? What the fuck does that even mean in this context? What are you trying to say? Use your fucking words.

I have intent to drink a fucking milkshake tonight while armed with a kitchen knife, guess I can't defend myself if BLM rioters start breaking into my home tonight.

It's like you watched one episode of "Law and Order" where they mentioned intent a few times and you're just parroting back that word now.

Come on cupcake, use that brain. What the fuck do you think it means? He brought a illegally obtained loaded weapon to a protest that he was against. To police the place. A LOADED GUN.

You have no idea what led up to it. And honestly it doesn’t matter. he killed two people. For all you know he started everything? For all we know those people were trying to take his gun away? He could have shot at them before the video started? We don’t know shit except he went there with a loaded gun and killed two people. Not sure what’s so difficult for you.

I’m 100% sure if he was a BLM protestor, you would be screaming give him the fucking chair!

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

blat blat blat rioters go splat

[Gelston]

Come on cupcake, use that brain. What the fuck do you think it means? He brought a illegally obtained loaded weapon to a protest that he was against. To police the place. A LOADED GUN.

You have no idea what led up to it. And honestly it doesn’t matter. The people he killed two people. For all you know he started everything? For all we know those people were trying to take his gun away? We don’t know shit except he went there with a loaded gun and killed two people. Not sure what’s so difficult for you.

I’m 100% sure if he was a BLM protestor, you would be screaming give him the fucking chair!

I guess you'd just roll over and let a crowd beat you to death on the ground. I sure as fuck wouldn't, and neither did this kid.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN1BJseSedo

gratata...

[Tgo01]

He can and should be charged for illegal possession.

Yeah I'm fine if they want to hit him with this misdemeanor charge for having the rifle. But this wasn't even remotely close to being murder. Attempted murder on behalf of the people he shot though yes and the fucker missing half of his arm should for sure be charged.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm personally just happy to see 3 very violent individuals are not rioting in the streets right now.

[Astray]

I guess you'd just roll over and let a crowd beat you to death on the ground. I sure as fuck wouldn't, and neither did this kid.

Anyone that looks at the kid about to get dog-piled and goes, "He shouldn't have shot" is a fucking idiot. I don't think that stupid kid should've been there at all. He went looking for a fight and it may have just cost him the rest of his life.

[Tgo01]

You have no idea what led up to it.

Actually I fucking do. It's all fucking documented on video. Here we are with leftists defending actual criminals who tried to murder a 17 year old teenager and saying the teen should be charged with fucking murder for defending himself.

I really have to go back to this "You have no idea what led up to it." Even if all we have is the video of him being chased...what fucking more do you need?! What fucking possible context would make it okay for a bunch of men to chase a teenager down the street, hit him with a skateboard so he falls down, then shout "GET HIM!" and 5 people jump on him with the intent to do him harm and one guy with a fucking pistol who wanted to shoot him. What fucking context are we missing that would have made this all okay from the perspective of the fucking rioters?

You've said some dumb fucking shit before, but this is an entirely new low I didn't think you were capable of.

[Gelston]

Anyone that looks at the kid about to get dog-piled and goes, "He shouldn't have shot" is a fucking idiot. I don't think that stupid kid should've been there at all. He went looking for a fight and it may have just cost him the rest of his life.

He shouldn't have gone, no. He was being a dumbass, impressionable 17 year old. Then again, the people attacking him shouldn't have been doing that either. And it literally cost two of them their lives.

[Astray]

He shouldn't have gone, no. He was being a dumbass, impressionable 17 year old. Then again, the people attacking him shouldn't have been doing that either. And it literally cost two of them their lives.

Yep.

[FlayedAngel]

Do me a couple small favors...

Tell us how Tgo feels about black people
No one spends 1,954 posts pathologically attempting to undermine protests about black lives at every opportunity because they believe in equality so much -- that sort of antagonism is literally in the definition of racism, and it isn't limited to overt statements or exaggerated conscious beliefs about racial superiority.

I don't think every post he's ever made is without merit and not worth consideration, but the sheer volume of his posts shitting on every conceivable aspect of the protests basically speaks for itself.



and explain which part(s) of anything you quoted in that post = Tgo hates black people and why they = that.

Because all I'm seeing is YOU DISAGREE SO YOU MUST BE RACIST!
I highly doubt anyone here (even PB) is going to explicitly state, "I'm racist as hell, and I hate black people!"

You may have noticed that I'm perfectly capable of disagreeing with people and explaining why without calling them racists. I tend to avoid labelling most people here as anything without having ample cause to do so, as it doesn't serve any real purpose; having said that, however, I have no qualms about calling out someone for being an obvious fuckin' racist... not because I disagree with them.



Pull your fucking head out of your damn ass already.

People are losing their lives, their homes, their businesses, and their livelihoods. It's time to stop the downplaying, stop the coddling, and own up to the facts that these are riots and they need to be stopped. This isn't fucking Antifa playtime dressing up as communists in Portland and throwing eggs at people. This is fucking serious. Be an adult.
I don't even really need to point out the hypocrisy in you accusing anyone of having their head up their ass.

No one said this wasn't fucking serious -- it has been from the onset, the protests have always been about the horror of people continuing to be unjustly murdered. Just because you didn't see how serious it was then doesn't make it any more or less serious now. If you want responsibility doled out so badly, put some of it where it belongs -- on authorities for antagonizing protesters and escalating the violence, on the media for its exploitative and often dangerously incendiary portrayal of the same, and on fanatical extremists on both sides seizing opportunities where they can.

If you're willing to acknowledge that, then I'm more than willing to condemn those elements who are inciting violence internally for their own ends (and often at the objection of legitimate protesters), committing grievously disproportionate criminal acts in disservice to the cause, and distorting the same for their own agenda.

[Parkbandit]

He can and should be charged for illegal possession. He didn't murder anyone. It was all in reaction to things done to him.

This sums it all up nicely, but everything is on video and you can see for yourself.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/118534542_10225026305793581_7838194317141197800_o. jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=yTFFD6e4te0AX_8mPhR&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&tp=7&oh=8d574d7381985a44e5ac13ec1ea56c41&oe=5F6C67B8

https://media1.giphy.com/media/TalMxHnYWhI2AyNPhc/giphy.gif


https://media1.giphy.com/media/MOf4i4FexFxhm/giphy.gif


https://media1.tenor.com/images/79d06f2f6f05c2c1f1e9ad55ece316ff/tenor.gif?itemid=14766229

[Tgo01]

I’m 100% sure if he was a BLM protestor, you would be screaming give him the fucking chair!

Actually in my very first post about this incident I said this about the shooter when it wasn't even clear yet whether this person was a BLM rioter or not:


Whoever the gunman is they are smart.

So fuck off.

[Tgo01]

No one spends 1,954 posts pathologically attempting to undermine protests about black lives at every opportunity because they believe in equality so much

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTLDqJ9OJ_lovUA-WPsAJa2Z50OP-LMjwLruw&usqp=CAU

I actually thought you were just being sarcastic with that snide comment of yours implying I was racist, but I guess you're actually saying that stupid shit based on the fact that I don't think riots targeting innocent people is ever the answer for anything.

[Methais]

The Washington Post is absolutely disgusting. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_mm-blake-protest-130am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&itid=hp_hp-banner-main_mm-blake-protest-130am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans)

Here is how they originally described this shooting situation:



Yeah that's right, the teenager fell to the ground then just started shooting into the crowd for no reason. Not like he was pushed to the ground then someone shouted "GET HIM!" then dozens of people charged at him with 5 people jumping on him, one of which had a pistol and was trying to murder him. Naww! He just began firing into the crowd!

Oh but they edited the story! Surely they updated it with these silly facts I mention:



Well at least this time they mention that people were chasing him (in a roundabout way by referring to them as "pursuers".) But look at the way they are describing the situation now! He "rolled into a sitting position." Motherfucking ROLLED INTO A SITTING POSITION?! Like it was some sort of tactical move on his part instead of the reality which is his "pursuers" knocked him to the ground by hitting him with a skateboard.

He "fire(d) at his pursuers"? No. He fired at the people literally trying to kill him.

Honestly how is anyone okay with what these monsters did to this teenager and also okay with how the media is outright gaslighting the fuck out of everyone with this shit? You all fell for the original narrative of racist cop shoots black man in back for no reason, now you'll sit by and ignore the outright lies by the media in regards to this teenager because it doesn't suit their narrative or yours.

How is this kind of blatant false reporting even legal outside of a tabloid or something? Jesus Christ.

[Parkbandit]

No one spends 1,954 posts pathologically attempting to undermine protests about black lives at every opportunity because they believe in equality so much -- that sort of antagonism is literally in the definition of racism, and it isn't limited to overt statements or exaggerated conscious beliefs about racial superiority.


I don't think every post he's ever made is without merit and not worth consideration, but the sheer volume of his posts shitting on every conceivable aspect of the protests basically speaks for itself.

I highly doubt anyone here (even PB) is going to explicitly state, "I'm racist as hell, and I hate black people!"


You may have noticed that I'm perfectly capable of disagreeing with people and explaining why without calling them racists. I tend to avoid labelling most people here as anything without having ample cause to do so, as it doesn't serve any real purpose; having said that, however, I have no qualms about calling out someone for being an obvious fuckin' racist... not because I disagree with them.


I don't even really need to point out the hypocrisy in you accusing anyone of having their head up their ass.


No one said this wasn't fucking serious -- it has been from the onset, the protests have always been about the horror of people continuing to be unjustly murdered. Just because you didn't see how serious it was then doesn't make it any more or less serious now. If you want responsibility doled out so badly, put some of it where it belongs -- on authorities for antagonizing protesters and escalating the violence, on the media for its exploitative and often dangerously incendiary portrayal of the same, and on fanatical extremists on both sides seizing opportunities where they can.


If you're willing to acknowledge that, then I'm more than willing to condemn those elements who are inciting violence internally for their own ends (and often at the objection of legitimate protesters), committing grievously disproportionate criminal acts in disservice to the cause, and distorting the same for their own agenda.

Jesus, Ashliana.. slow it down on the bold, italics and underlines...

And yes, everyone who isn't a liberal and "think" just like you is obviously a racist, homophobe, xenophobe, bigot, sexist, etc....

Now do the world a favor and go get yourself a big giant soy latte and drown yourself in it... in a non-fatal type of way.

[Tgo01]

How is this kind of blatant false reporting even legal outside of a tabloid or something? Jesus Christ.

I don't think even the Founding Fathers could have envisioned just how far off the rails the media would get when their favored candidate lost an election.

[FlayedAngel]

I actually thought you were just being sarcastic with that snide comment of yours implying I was racist, but I guess you're actually saying that stupid shit based on the fact that I don't think riots targeting innocent people is ever the answer for anything.
No, I'm basing that on your constant specious bullshit, and the fact that you seem mentally incapable of any kind of nuanced distinction between "rioter" and "protester" because you've swallowed that narrative without any evident critical appraisal whatsoever.

[Parkbandit]

I don't think even the Founding Fathers could have envisioned just how far off the rails the media would get when their favored candidate lost an election.

Hey now, these BLM "protesters" are exactly like the Founding Fathers.

That has already been established in this very thread.

You need to apologize.

[Parkbandit]

No, I'm basing that on your constant specious bullshit, and the fact that you seem mentally incapable of any kind of nuanced distinction between "rioter" and "protester" because you've swallowed that narrative without any evident critical appraisal whatsoever.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/5R1FM2PNw3G6AZWBsc/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

you seem mentally incapable of any kind of nuanced distinction between "rioter" and "protester"

https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4ac34af/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1611x846+0+26/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediadc.brightspotcdn.com%2Ffa% 2F48%2F16a0dcb94e459392e8d86c04780a%2F1.png

Whatever you say.

[FlayedAngel]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/5R1FM2PNw3G6AZWBsc/giphy.gif
You mean like the hypocrisy of complaining (inaccurately, I might add) about designations of prejudice while insisting that everyone you don't agree with has some sort of weird univeral soy-latte fetish?

Yeah, big ups on the irony!



And yes, everyone who isn't a liberal and "think" just like you is obviously a racist, homophobe, xenophobe, bigot, sexist, etc....

Now do the world a favor and go get yourself a big giant soy latte and drown yourself in it... in a non-fatal type of way.
Yeah, none of what I said implied any of that... I'm accusing a specific person of a specific thing based on numerous obvious and readily examinable instances.

But good job jumping the gun straight to that classic fall-back.

[Solkern]

I guess you'd just roll over and let a crowd beat you to death on the ground. I sure as fuck wouldn't, and neither did this kid.

I wouldn't have gone there, with a loaded gun, to police the area.. in the first place.
If i did go there, with his mindset? I'd fully expect that I would probably be using my weapon.

[FlayedAngel]

https://mediadc.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/4ac34af/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1611x846+0+26/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmediadc.brightspotcdn.com%2Ffa% 2F48%2F16a0dcb94e459392e8d86c04780a%2F1.png

Whatever you say.
Yes, please do continue to use your own co-opted quote to prove my point.

[Solkern]

Actually I fucking do. It's all fucking documented on video. Here we are with leftists defending actual criminals who tried to murder a 17 year old teenager and saying the teen should be charged with fucking murder for defending himself.

I really have to go back to this "You have no idea what led up to it." Even if all we have is the video of him being chased...what fucking more do you need?! What fucking possible context would make it okay for a bunch of men to chase a teenager down the street, hit him with a skateboard so he falls down, then shout "GET HIM!" and 5 people jump on him with the intent to do him harm and one guy with a fucking pistol who wanted to shoot him. What fucking context are we missing that would have made this all okay from the perspective of the fucking rioters?

You've said some dumb fucking shit before, but this is an entirely new low I didn't think you were capable of.


oh you do?!

so know you more than the police? because they don't even know.. but some random dude on the interwebs, that searches twitter and other places, knows better. gotcha!

"What I can't tell you is what led to that disturbance, what led to use of deadly force," said, Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis

[Tgo01]

I'm accusing a specific person of a specific thing based on numerous obvious and readily examinable instances.


No one spends 1,954 posts pathologically attempting to undermine protests about black lives at every opportunity because they believe in equality so much

Do you really not understand how fucking dumb this argument is?

You hate the Proud Boys, but...but all the Proud Boys want to do is promote freedom and love of their country. Why do you hate freedom and this country so much?

See? This is why you should stop making all of your arguments based on emotions and should try sticking to facts, because every dumb thing you say like this can easily be turned on you because it's dumb.

This is now where you once again realize how easily your dumb argument has been destroyed so you deflect to something stupid again like "You're defending the Proud Boys?!" I'll preempt this obvious reply of yours with "Nice deflection!"

[Tgo01]

oh you do?!

so know you more than the police? because they don't even know.. but some random dude on the interwebs, that searches twitter and other places, knows better. gotcha!

"What I can't tell you is what led to that disturbance, what led to use of deadly force," said, Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis

Not gonna let you get away with deflection bullshit today after realizing I have reached my 3 Solkern posts per day limit. So fucking answer this and stop with your bullshit:


I really have to go back to this "You have no idea what led up to it." Even if all we have is the video of him being chased...what fucking more do you need?! What fucking possible context would make it okay for a bunch of men to chase a teenager down the street, hit him with a skateboard so he falls down, then shout "GET HIM!" and 5 people jump on him with the intent to do him harm and one guy with a fucking pistol who wanted to shoot him. What fucking context are we missing that would have made this all okay from the perspective of the fucking rioters?

[Solkern]

Not gonna let you get away with deflection bullshit today after realizing I have reached my 3 Solkern posts per day limit. So fucking answer this and stop with your bullshit:

We need A LOT more, Maybe he shot at them before, which lead to people to start recording, and chase him? Maybe, he instigated the entire thing? maybe he was threatening them? Maybe he did absolutely nothing. We don't know, and for you to claim you do know, is just like most of the other shit you post. Absolute garbage.

So yeah, what led up to it DOES matter, just like INTENT does matter. whether you want to agree with it or not. that's the law.

[Bhaalizmo]

all the Proud Boys want to do is promote freedom and love of their country.

So, the rest of us who don't get our news from Fox, Understand that the Proud Boys are a far right organization interested in instigating civil war. Where are you getting your info? Have you tried Wiki or better yet, google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys
"The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist organization that admits only men as members and promotes and engages in political violence."

One of their members organized the Charlottesville "Unite the right" event. Remember the tiki torches?

Why is it that I'm able to google what you say and refute your "facts", yet here you are mocking someone else for not agreeing with your fictions?

I'll answer for you. Because your only goals here in posting as much as you do are to put forth a narrative, not to engage in any debate or discourse that results in your researching anything or learning something. You're just here to push a narrative. Like a bot. I guess, good job?

Keep that mind closed, boy. Stay proud.

[FlayedAngel]

Do you really not understand how fucking dumb this argument is?

You hate the Proud Boys, but...but all the Proud Boys want to do is promote freedom and love of their country. Why do you hate freedom and this country so much?

See? This is why you should stop making all of your arguments based on emotions and should try sticking to facts, because every dumb thing you say like this can easily be turned on you because it's dumb.

This is now where you once again realize how easily your dumb argument has been destroyed so you deflect to something stupid again like "You're defending the Proud Boys?!" I'll preempt this obvious reply of yours with "Nice deflection!"
Yes, you're clearly making a rock-solid argument there: "Every dumb thing you say will be turned around on you by me... because my only capacity for response is the very same 'NOU' reversal that I project on everyone else! I win because I say I win, and if you point out the obvious, I'll say you're deflecting!"

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/64/5b/f8/645bf8e254139757dbe7b044822b7bec.gif

[Solkern]

5 people jump on him with the intent to do him harm and one guy with a fucking pistol who wanted to shoot him.


That's funny as hell. The guy with the pistol jumped on him wanting to shoot him! Why the fuck would a guy with a pistol, jump on someone to shoot them? seriously, you're fucking dumb.

Seriously, having any type of conversation with you, is like putting gas in a car, you've just totally wrecked.

[FlayedAngel]

Actually I fucking do. It's all fucking documented on video. Here we are with leftists defending actual criminals who tried to murder a 17 year old teenager and saying the teen should be charged with fucking murder for defending himself.

I really have to go back to this "You have no idea what led up to it." Even if all we have is the video of him being chased...what fucking more do you need?! What fucking possible context would make it okay for a bunch of men to chase a teenager down the street, hit him with a skateboard so he falls down, then shout "GET HIM!" and 5 people jump on him with the intent to do him harm and one guy with a fucking pistol who wanted to shoot him. What fucking context are we missing that would have made this all okay from the perspective of the fucking rioters?

You've said some dumb fucking shit before, but this is an entirely new low I didn't think you were capable of.
A thought experiment:

"Actually I fucking do. It's all fucking documented on video. Here we are with racists defending a cop who outright murdered an unarmed black man, and then insisting that the black man was at fault for walking away.

I really have to go back to this "You have no idea what led up to it." Even if all we have is the video of him being shot down while unarmed...what fucking more do you need?! What fucking possible context would make it okay for a bunch of cops to chase an unarmed black man to his car and then shoot him in the back seven times in front of his kids? What fucking context are we missing that would have made this all okay, especially from the perspective of those belonging to the same demographic as the people being murdered?

You've said some dumb fucking shit before, but this is an entirely new low I didn't think you were capable of."

[Alashir]

Tgol is fucking nuts but you ding dongs debating him when he's the living embodiment of cognitive dissonance is not going to change his mind. Tgol is flat out wrong on nearly every level but his brain believes he's in the right. At this point he could look at fmri studies of his own brain that highlight any number of issues and look you in the face and tell you the scans are wrong and you're wrong and THE PROUD BOYS JUST LOVE AMERICA!! 1!1!1!1.

Give it up. He's totally bonkers and makes up the majority of posts in the political section of a dead text game. Instead of being angry with him we should be concerned for his health because his reasoning is so skewed.

[FlayedAngel]

Tgol is fucking nuts but you ding dongs debating him when he's the living embodiment of cognitive dissonance is not going to change his mind. Tgol is flat out wrong on nearly every level but his brain believes he's in the right. At this point he could look at fmri studies of his own brain that highlight any number of issues and look you in the face and tell you the scans are wrong and you're wrong and THE PROUD BOYS JUST LOVE AMERICA!! 1!1!1!1.

Give it up. He's totally bonkers and makes up the majority of posts in the political section of a dead text game. Instead of being angry with him we should be concerned for his health because his reasoning is so skewed.
You make a very compelling argument.

[Tgo01]

We need A LOT more, Maybe he shot at them before, which lead to people to start recording, and chase him? Maybe, he instigated the entire thing? maybe he was threatening them?

Does any of that excuse them attacking him from behind then once he's on the ground attempting to fucking murder him?

Here I thought you were just an idiot, but you're just a fucking god awful person.

[Tgo01]

So, the rest of us who don't get our news from Fox, Understand that the Proud Boys are a far right organization interested in instigating civil war.

And Antifa is a far left organization interested in instigating a civil war. BLM has devolved into a bunch of people rioting and threatening people to join them or else they'll burn their business down.

Almost as there is more to an organization than just what their stated goals are.

And I thought FlayedAngel totally misses the point all the time, here comes Bhaalizmo to show FlayedAngel how it's really done!

[Tgo01]

That's funny as hell. The guy with the pistol jumped on him wanting to shoot him! Why the fuck would a guy with a pistol, jump on someone to shoot them?

Look at the fucking images, you fucking worthless shit stain!

He is clearly midway through pointing the gun at his fucking head when the teenager blew his fucking arm off. Why the FUCK do you think he had the gun in his hand as he was chasing the guy down the fucking street? Fuck's sake. You're more than just a god awful human being, you are about the most worthless shit stain I have seen on the PC to date.

[Tgo01]

A thought experiment:

"Actually I fucking do. It's all fucking documented on video. Here we are with racists defending a cop who outright murdered an unarmed black man, and then insisting that the black man was at fault for walking away.

I really have to go back to this "You have no idea what led up to it." Even if all we have is the video of him being shot down while unarmed...what fucking more do you need?! What fucking possible context would make it okay for a bunch of cops to chase an unarmed black man to his car and then shoot him in the back seven times in front of his kids? What fucking context are we missing that would have made this all okay, especially from the perspective of those belonging to the same demographic as the people being murdered?

You've said some dumb fucking shit before, but this is an entirely new low I didn't think you were capable of."

More "NOU" dumb shit. Fuck off. Why don't you stop sitting at home and cheering these rioters on. Don't you know "white silence is violence"? Go out there with your skateboard and gun and look for a teenage kid to murder.

[Solkern]

Look at the fucking images, you fucking worthless shit stain!

He is clearly midway through pointing the gun at his fucking head when the teenager blew his fucking arm off. Why the FUCK do you think he had the gun in his hand as he was chasing the guy down the fucking street? Fuck's sake. You're more than just a god awful human being, you are about the most worthless shit stain I have seen on the PC to date.

You seriously need psychological help. I’m just going to respond to your post with “You’re a fucking idiot” from now on.

[Solkern]

More "NOU" dumb shit. Fuck off. Why don't you stop sitting at home and cheering these rioters on. Don't you know "white silence is violence"? Go out there with your skateboard and gun and look for a teenage kid to murder.


You’re a fucking idiot.

[Tgo01]

THE PROUD BOYS JUST LOVE AMERICA!! 1!1!1!1.

Antifa just fights fascists! The retarded leftist says as Antifa burns down entire city blocks.

BLM justs want racial justice! The retarded leftist says as BLM riots in the streets on a fucking nightly basis and threatens people eating at a fucking restaurant.

I tried to slow walk you fucktards to the point I was making but you all are too stupid for even the simplest of things.

Keep defending actual violent criminals who tried to murder a 17 year old in the middle of the fucking street and turn around and say I'm the one with the mental problem.

[Tgo01]

I’m just going to respond to your post with “You’re a fucking idiot” from now on.

Thank God. One less retarded spreading their dumb shit all over the PC. Hopefully Bhaalizmo and FlayedAngel will join you now so a little bit more sanity can return to the PC.

[Solkern]

Thank God. One less retarded spreading their dumb shit all over the PC. Hopefully Bhaalizmo and FlayedAngel will join you now so a little bit more sanity can return to the PC.

You’re a fucking idiot.

[Tgo01]

It's pretty amazing. Antifa has been terrorizing cities for years. BLM has been terrorizing cities for months. Democrats don't dare say a bad word about either of these groups.

This teenager shoots 4 people in a clear as day case of self defense and the media is busy saying the kid is a deranged racist and Trump needs to denounce this kid now.

Fuck the media and anyone parroting this shit back.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/27/cnn-van-jones-beat-up-kenosha-wisconsin-shooter/

Noted racist Van Jones himself with the hot takes:


We should beat this kid up because he is doing irresponsible things and has been pulled into an irresponsible movement that the president needs to denounce.

Yes by all means let's "beat up this KID" because he acted in self defense.

[Gelston]

Supposedly the first guy that he shot in the head was a convicted pedophile.

[Tgo01]

Supposedly the first guy that he shot in the head was a convicted pedophile.

That's what I've been reading too. I also heard before he threw a firebomb at this teenager he was harassing an armed black dude who was also protecting property and screaming racial slurs at him.

But somehow this man is a hero to some on the left who thinks he was there to promote racial justice for minorities and the one who shot him is a racist Nazi.

The left's reaction to this event all sound like one big Onion article, but it's real life. It's actually happening in real time in the real world.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Supposedly the first guy that he shot in the head was a convicted pedophile.

All three of the people he shot have cringe worthy rap sheets. The "lefty" (get it, cause his right arm is fugged) Gaige person that survived was also supposedly illegally carrying a firearm and told his buddy (who tweeted it) his only regret was not emptying it into the kid.

[Astray]

Saw some pictures of that dude, Lefty. That elbow is fucked.

[Tgo01]

his only regret was not emptying it into the kid.

But he was just holding the gun! He didn't want to shoot him! -- Solkern.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=Here+Lies&top2=Joseph+%22Jo+Jo%22+Rosenbaum&top3=%22Shoot+Me+N-Word%22&top4=He+Did&sp=

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

http://www.tombstonebuilder.com/generate.php?top1=ANTHONY+HUBER&top2=MARXIST&top3=BROUGHT+A+SKATEBOARD&top4=TO+A+GUNFIGHT&sp=

[Tgo01]

Longer video that shows what happened prior to the shooting in the street. (https://www.reddit.com/r/ActualPublicFreakouts/comments/igxbxt/higher_quality_version_of_the_entire_sequence_of/)

As you can clearly see they are chasing the teenager into a parking lot. You can see plain as fucking day the first dude who gets shot in the head throws a fucking molotov cocktail at him, he turns to fire, either misses or just wounds the dude, and the dude FUCKING CHASED AFTER HIM. He then shot him in the head.

"But we don't know what led up to this!" Like I said it's all on fucking video.

They weren't chasing him BECAUSE he shot this dude, THEY WERE ALREADY FUCKING CHASING HIM.

He defended himself against someone who threw a fucking molotov cocktail at him and then kept charging at him.

After that he gets on the cell phone and tells the person he shot someone (some say he called 911 to turn himself in, I can't confirm that from this video though.) He then runs towards the police.

These fuckers CONTINUE TO FUCKING FOLLOW HIM AS HE'S RUNNING TOWARDS THE FUCKING POLICE.

One bashes him with his skateboard and he falls down, the fucker then hits him with his skateboard again so he shoots that fucker.

Another fucker tries to stomp on him so he shoots that fucker.

Another fucker tries to murder him with a fucking pistol so he shoots that fucker.

He then gets up and continues to run towards the police and he FUCKING SURRENDERS TO THE POLICE.

Fuck all of you defending the violent thugs who tried to murder him and condemning this teen for defending himself.

Try to make your sick fucks feel better about this shit you feel pressured to defend. "Oh he shouldn't have been there!" "Oh he shouldn't have had a gun!" "Oh but BLM!"

No. Shut the fuck up. Fuck you.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Not sure it was a molotov...

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1598461495268.jpg

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

but he did repeatedly say "Shoot me, nigga".

[Parkbandit]

You mean like the hypocrisy of complaining (inaccurately, I might add) about designations of prejudice while insisting that everyone you don't agree with has some sort of weird univeral soy-latte fetish?

Yeah, big ups on the irony!

Yeah, none of what I said implied any of that... I'm accusing a specific person of a specific thing based on numerous obvious and readily examinable instances.

But good job jumping the gun straight to that classic fall-back.

Add the definition of irony to the gigantic list of shit you don't understand or can't comprehend.

[Tgo01]

Not sure it was a molotov...

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1598461495268.jpg

Was it like gasoline or something? Definitely looks on fire whatever it was.

[Parkbandit]

Not sure it was a molotov...
https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1598461495268.jpg

I can only go by what is being reported... but it looks like a bottle with a wick that is set on fire... I'm going with molotov

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/118534542_10225026305793581_7838194317141197800_o. jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=yTFFD6e4te0AX_8mPhR&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&tp=7&oh=8d574d7381985a44e5ac13ec1ea56c41&oe=5F6C67B8

[FlayedAngel]

Look at the fucking images, you fucking worthless shit stain!

He is clearly midway through pointing the gun at his fucking head when the teenager blew his fucking arm off. Why the FUCK do you think he had the gun in his hand as he was chasing the guy down the fucking street? Fuck's sake. You're more than just a god awful human being, you are about the most worthless shit stain I have seen on the PC to date.

More "NOU" dumb shit. Fuck off. Why don't you stop sitting at home and cheering these rioters on. Don't you know "white silence is violence"? Go out there with your skateboard and gun and look for a teenage kid to murder.

Try to make your sick fucks feel better about this shit you feel pressured to defend. "Oh he shouldn't have been there!" "Oh he shouldn't have had a gun!" "Oh but BLM!"

No. Shut the fuck up. Fuck you.
Dude... you seriously need help.

[time4fun]

Dude... you seriously need help.

Yeah he really does

[Tgo01]

Dude... you seriously need help.

Says the guy defending violent criminals trying to murder a teenager in the street. Don't you have a riot to attend?

[FlayedAngel]

All three of the people he shot have cringe worthy rap sheets. The "lefty" (get it, cause his right arm is fugged) Gaige person that survived was also supposedly illegally carrying a firearm and told his buddy (who tweeted it) his only regret was not emptying it into the kid.
Yeah, I'm not going to lose much sleep over the pedophile -- fuck that.



Add the definition of irony to the gigantic list of shit you don't understand or can't comprehend.
Found this classic PB footage:

https://i.imgur.com/t00GlIn.gif

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/nieto_phillip/status/1299197467897090049?s=20

Racist BLM terrorists taunt, harass, and shove officers in DC. One particularly racist white bitch calls a black officer a "traitor" and an "Uncle Tom."

Largely peaceful my ass.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1299201483544629249?s=20

BLM terrorists harass and scream at little old ladies as they leave Trump's RNC speech tonight.

Keep it classy, Democrats! BLM and Democrats have set the bar so low for themselves that they actually get props for not shoving anyone to the ground or pointing guns at them. Good job!

[Tgo01]

Keep it classy, Democrats! BLM and Democrats have set the bar so low for themselves that they actually get props for not shoving anyone to the ground or pointing guns at them. Good job!

https://twitter.com/Jimmy__Tacos/status/1299207467075805184?s=20

Well that didn't last long. BLM terrorists in DC follow an old man around while screaming in his face and shouting into a bullhorn next to his face, then they push him to the ground.

Okay so...at least they didn't murder anyone! Keep lowering that bar, BLM!

[FlayedAngel]

Says the guy defending violent criminals trying to murder a teenager in the street. Don't you have a riot to attend?
https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtmQSlSfTHnJLqg/giphy.gif

[Uranti]

On one side we have hardcore jostling and foul language. On the other side, shootings which have caused permanent injury and death.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/12d9b5cef7ceafa25ee3b0f4b5cfe1b5/tumblr_nn3rwpPPzD1se6q8so5_r3_250.gifv

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

On one side we have hardcore jostling and foul language. On the other side, shootings which have caused permanent injury and death.

https://64.media.tumblr.com/12d9b5cef7ceafa25ee3b0f4b5cfe1b5/tumblr_nn3rwpPPzD1se6q8so5_r3_250.gifv

I'm unclear on your over simplification here. So jostling and foul language covers burning down businesses, disturbing the peace, attacking lawful citizens, destroying public property? And "the other side" which is defending their property from terrorists and rioters, defending themselves from bodily harm and turning themselves into the police. Did I capture that correctly?

[Parkbandit]

I'm unclear on your over simplification here. So jostling and foul language covers burning down businesses, disturbing the peace, attacking lawful citizens, destroying public property? And "the other side" which is defending their property from terrorists and rioters, defending themselves from bodily harm and turning themselves into the police. Did I capture that correctly?

Yea.. wasn't sure what point, if any, he was trying to make... so I just skipped over it.

[Methais]

What was the intent of the rioters?

Murder.

B-B-B-B-B-BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT!!!!!!!

[Taernath]

I don't know if we're still sharing grainy stills and arguing about whether Tgo intends to play Gemstone or not, but here's the criminal complaint:

https://www.mystateline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2020/08/Rittenhouse.pdf

Of note,


The video shows that as they cross the parking lot, Rosenbaum appears to throw an object at the
defendant. The object does not hit the defendant and a second video shows, based on where the
object landed, that it was a plastic bag. Rosenbaum appears to be unarmed for the duration of this
video

[Methais]

No one spends 1,954 posts pathologically attempting to undermine protests about black lives at every opportunity because they believe in equality so much -- that sort of antagonism is literally in the definition of racism, and it isn't limited to overt statements or exaggerated conscious beliefs about racial superiority.

I don't think every post he's ever made is without merit and not worth consideration, but the sheer volume of his posts shitting on every conceivable aspect of the protests basically speaks for itself.

This sounds like a whole lot of bullshit, especially the part where you apparently know read and memorized every word of all 1,984 posts, but also bullshit in just a general sense.

I'm sure this is what you believe, but the reality of the actual situation, probably not so much. Just more YOU'RE SOOOOOOO RACIST...BECAUSE!!! is what I'm usually seeing.

But I'm too lazy and busy pwning shit in the other window to have a serious argument, so have fun with that.

[Methais]

So, the rest of us who don't get our news from Fox, Understand that the Proud Boys are a far right organization interested in instigating civil war. Where are you getting your info? Have you tried Wiki or better yet, google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys
"The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist organization that admits only men as members and promotes and engages in political violence."

One of their members organized the Charlottesville "Unite the right" event. Remember the tiki torches?

Why is it that I'm able to google what you say and refute your "facts", yet here you are mocking someone else for not agreeing with your fictions?

I'll answer for you. Because your only goals here in posting as much as you do are to put forth a narrative, not to engage in any debate or discourse that results in your researching anything or learning something. You're just here to push a narrative. Like a bot. I guess, good job?

Keep that mind closed, boy. Stay proud.

Could you explain how/why the Proud Boy in this pic is racist? Thanks in advance. Gaylord.

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[Taernath]

Could you explain how/why the Proud Boy in this pic is racist? Thanks in advance. Gaylord.

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My brother only dates/marries latinas but he refers to everyone south of the border as "dirt farmers looking for handouts". He's on his third marriage now. People can and do rationalize away that stuff all the time.

Do you believe it's impossible for a misogynist to marry a woman?

[Methais]

You’re a fucking idiot.

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[Methais]

Supposedly the first guy that he shot in the head was a convicted pedophile.

No wonder democrats are so mad about it.

[Methais]

Yeah he really does

Your complete lack of self-awareness is never not entertaining.

But still shut the fuck up.

[Methais]

My brother only dates/marries latinas but he refers to everyone south of the border as "dirt farmers looking for handouts". He's on his third marriage now. People can and do rationalize away that stuff all the time.

Do you believe it's impossible for a misogynist to marry a woman?

You forgot the part about how/why he's racist though.

Do you believe he thinks his kids are inferior because they're half black? Or at least half-inferior?

[Taernath]

You forgot the part about how/why he's racist though.

Do you believe he thinks his kids are inferior because they're half black? Or at least half-inferior?

I don't really feel like closely examining his interpersonal family dynamics, but he is a Proud Boy ipso facto he is a giant pile of shit.

[Methais]

I don't really feel like closely examining his interpersonal family dynamics, but he is a Proud Boy ipso facto he is a giant pile of shit.

But is he racist?

Unrelated: Does being Antifa make someone a piece of shit by default too? Asking for Backlash's mom.

[Taernath]

But is he racist?

He is a Proud Boy, so yeah. Do you want to answer or reflect on the questions I posed?

[Stolis]

I don't know if we're still sharing grainy stills and arguing about whether Tgo intends to play Gemstone or not, but here's the criminal complaint:

https://www.mystateline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2020/08/Rittenhouse.pdf

Of note,

Well now I'm just curious what was in the plastic bag. Cause if you just throw a plastic bag, it doesn't go anywhere and then what the fuck were you trying to do there bud? Were there rocks or something else heavy in there and he was just using it like a slingshot?

Throwing a plastic bag, you kinda deserve to get your ass beat a little or something just so the stupidity hurts. Literally everyone around you should be like dude, what the fuck man?

[Solkern]

I don't know if we're still sharing grainy stills and arguing about whether Tgo intends to play Gemstone or not, but here's the criminal complaint:

https://www.mystateline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2020/08/Rittenhouse.pdf

Of note,

Tgo: BUT BUT BUT they were trying to MURDER HIM BY THROWING THAT PLASTIC BAG!!!! They tried for it to land on his head and cause him to suffocate!!!

[Methais]

He is a Proud Boy, so yeah. Do you want to answer or reflect on the questions I posed?

This is an example of why no one can take the left's race cards seriously.


My brother only dates/marries latinas but he refers to everyone south of the border as "dirt farmers looking for handouts". He's on his third marriage now. People can and do rationalize away that stuff all the time.

Do you believe it's impossible for a misogynist to marry a woman?

I don't know, are the "dirt farmers looking for handouts" the same race as his wife? Maybe your brother just hates poor people, from the sound of it.

But aside from that, if you're implying that your brother is racist, then...

You (I would assume) support your brother in a general sense, being that he's your brother and all. Not saying you support his alleged racism, just him in general as a person.

But using leftist logic, that still makes you racist.

Racist.

Reported to Mexican Lives Matter.

[Alashir]

I'm curious if tgol, methais, and others who have a history of making racist, homophobic, otherwise derogatory remarks would classify themselves as proud boys and why or why not?

[Methais]

I'm curious if tgol, methais, and others who have a history of making racist, homophobic, otherwise derogatory remarks would classify themselves as proud boys and why or why not?

Considering that I don't know hardly shit about them other than they exist, probably not.

I hope you can one day discover how humor and sarcasm work though.

In the meantime though, feel free to quote any "racist, homophobic" things I've said that was intended to be taken seriously and not sarcasm and/or trolling. I left out "or otherwise derogatory" because you could apply that to literally anything you wanted for any purpose. But you knew that already.

Protip: Disagreeing with your political beliefs doesn't count as any of that.



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[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm curious if tgol, methais, and others who have a history of making racist, homophobic, otherwise derogatory remarks would classify themselves as proud boys and why or why not?

That's a broad statement. Would you? Why or why not? Justify to us you aren't a racist homophobe who never says derogatory remarks. We will require visual aids and two forms of ID to validate that you aren't.

[Methais]

That's a broad statement. Would you? Why or why not? Justify to us you aren't a racist homophobe who never says derogatory remarks. We will require visual aids and two forms of ID to validate that you aren't.

And sworn testimony from his grandma.

[Taernath]

Considering that I don't know hardly shit about them other than they exist, probably not.

Hold up.

You were just arguing that the guy in the picture above can't be racist, but now you say you don't even know what the Proud Boys are and haven't bothered looking them up?

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You and Tgo with your Schrodinger's arguments, goddamn.

[Tgo01]

I don't know if we're still sharing grainy stills and arguing about whether Tgo intends to play Gemstone or not, but here's the criminal complaint:

https://www.mystateline.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2020/08/Rittenhouse.pdf

Of note,

That whole criminal complaint is utter shit.


The video shows that as they cross the parking lot

"As they cross the parking lot"? Like they were a bunch of kids playing together or something. The pedophile chased him across the street, chased him part way through the parking lot where he threw the object (doesn't really matter what the object was since it missed and the teen didn't shoot him at this point, it looking like a molotov cocktail was just icing on this shit cake), and continued to chase him. Remember yesterday the good laugh you all had at my expense about intent? What do we think the pedophile's intent was? Seems pretty clear as day: serious bodily harm and possibly even murder. The teen was running from this guy while armed with a rifle and the pedophile kept chasing him. At which point is his duty to retreat over and the teen is allowed to defend himself?


did recklessly cause the death of Joseph D. Rosenbaum

And yet a witness who claims he was just mere feet away while this all unfolds says this:


McGinnis said that the unarmed guy (Rosenbaum) was trying to get the defendant’s gun. McGinnis demonstrated by extending both of his hands in a quick grabbing motion and did that as a visual on how Rosenbaum tried to reach for the defendant’s gun. Detective Cepress indicates that he asked McGinnis if Rosenbaum had his hands on the gun when the defendant shot. McGinnis said that he definitely made a motion that he was trying to grab the barrel of the gun. McGinnis stated that the defendant pulled it away and then raised it. McGinnis stated that right as they came together, the defendant fired. McGinnis said that when Rosenbaum was shot, he had leaned in (towards the defendant).

So the fucker was chasing him at least across the street and through a parking lot (who knows how long he was chasing him before that, that's just when the video starts), then tries to take the teen's gun away from him, and the teen is being charged with "recklessly homicide" for shooting this pedophile? Like really? A suspect even so much as looks at an officer's gun and that officer is allowed to shoot in self defense, but this guy chases this teen for several hundred feet and tries to grab his gun and the teen is supposed to, what, get into a wrestling match with a larger man over control of the gun?

Fuck this shit.

Let's move on to count 2:

Count 2: FIRST DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON

This is in regards to the witness mentioned above. Yes that's right! Because this reporter chose to follow an armed teenager who was being chased by a clearly violent psychopath and chose to watch this all unfold mere feet away, this teen is now charged with "first degree recklessly endangering safety" because he fired his gun in self defense. Unfuckingbelievable.

Look at this shit:


The defendant then trips and falls to the ground.

Trips my fucking ass. Two people can clearly be seen trying to push him down, the second of which was successful.

Let's move on to count 3:


FIRST DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON

This is in regards to skateboard dude, which they described the situation as:


A second person who was later identified as Anthony Huber approaches the defendant who is still on the ground, on his back. Huber has a skateboard in his right hand. When Huber reaches the defendant it appears that he is reaching for the defendant’s gun with his left hand as the skateboard makes contact with the defendant’s left shoulder. Huber appears to be trying to pull the gun away from the defendant. The defendant rolls towards his left side and as Huber appears to be trying to grab the gun the gun is pointed at Huber’s body.

I love this so fucking much! The skateboard merely "makes contact with the defendant's shoulder." And here is a teen having been pushed to the ground, already had someone try and jump on top of him, now has this douche bag hit him with his skateboard and try to take his gun, and he's charged with first degree murder for this? For real? I guess this teen was supposed to get into yet another wrestling match over control of his gun after he had already been chased by pedophile, ran down the street, assaulted at least 3 times, and now he's on the ground and supposed to fight for control over his rifle instead of defending himself.

Oh but it gets better! Count 4!

Count 4: ATTEMPT FIRST DEGREE INTENTIONAL HOMICIDE, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON

This is for blowing off half that guy's arm, which they described as:


After shooting Huber, the defendant moves to a seated position and points his gun at a third male, later identified as Gaige Grosskreutz, who had begun to approach the defendant. When the defendant shot Huber, Grosskreutz freezes and ducks and takes a step back. Grosskreutz puts his hands in the air. Grosskreutz then moves towards the defendant who aims his gun at Grosskreutzand shoots him, firing 1 shot. Grosskreutz was shot in the right arm. Grosskreutz appears to be holding a handgun in his right hand when he was shot.

Attempted first degree fucking intentional homicide for THIS?! It's amazing how they describe this situation. One arm "appears to be holding a handgun in his right hand." Yeah, you think that minor fact might have had SOMETHING to do with why he was shot? So let's recap: this teenager was chased across a street, through a parking lot, where he was apparently supposed to get into a wrestling match over control of his gun with a larger person, he then ran down the street with a group of thugs chasing after him. He was then attacked from behind but kept running, he was then pushed to the ground. A person jump kicked him while he was on the ground, skateboard dude hits him with his skateboard and tries to take his weapon where the teen apparently wasn't supposed to shoot but instead get into a wrestling match over the gun, one armed fucker then pretended to surrender (this is all even mentioned in the complaint no less!), then moved towards the teen ARMED WITH A PISTOL, and the teen was apparently supposed to...I'm not even sure at this point because this dude was armed with a fucking pistol. I guess now the teen was supposed to just accept his fate and get shot in the fucking head.

And then here's count 5:

Count 5: FIRST DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON

Which I guess is for the guy who tried to jump kick him while he's on the ground. This is so stupid I don't even have words.

This is so obviously an attempt to railroad this teenager and make martyrs out of all of the violent criminals who attacked him that day.

Shame on anyone agreeing with these charges. Your hate for Trump has clouded your good judgement and now you want to see an innocent teenager fry.

[Tgo01]

Well now I'm just curious what was in the plastic bag. Cause if you just throw a plastic bag, it doesn't go anywhere and then what the fuck were you trying to do there bud? Were there rocks or something else heavy in there and he was just using it like a slingshot?

Throwing a plastic bag, you kinda deserve to get your ass beat a little or something just so the stupidity hurts. Literally everyone around you should be like dude, what the fuck man?

Yeah these people trying to claim it was just a plastic bag are being disingenuous as usual. Something was clearly in that bag. This guy didn't just throw an empty plastic bag at someone he was chasing thinking it was actually going to do something.

[Tgo01]

You were just arguing that the guy in the picture above can't be racist, but now you say you don't even know what the Proud Boys are and haven't bothered looking them up?

Typically people don't marry someone they hate then go on to have kids with this person who they would deem to be an inferior race to themselves.

You mentioned an anecdote of your brother making dumb comments. I obviously don't know your brother but do you have more than him just making dumb comments? Because him being racist and only dating Latinas doesn't make sense either.

Your misogyny analogy doesn't work either. Misogynists aren't (necessarily) gay, they aren't going to start fucking men to own the womenfolk, so clearly they are going to date women and control them.

But why would a racist, who hates black people and thinks they are an inferior race, choose to marry a black woman over a white woman, then have children with this black woman who they would also consider to be part of an inferior race?

Is it possible, just maybe, you're wrong about this?

Where exactly did you get your information from on the Proud Boys anyways? I'm guessing ADL and SPLC.

[Alashir]

That's a broad statement. Would you? Why or why not? Justify to us you aren't a racist homophobe who never says derogatory remarks. We will require visual aids and two forms of ID to validate that you aren't.

Since you asked, no I wouldnt classify myself as a proud boy. It's an explicitly racist organization

[FlayedAngel]

This sounds like a whole lot of bullshit, especially the part where you apparently know read and memorized every word of all 1,984 posts, but also bullshit in just a general sense.

I'm sure this is what you believe, but the reality of the actual situation, probably not so much. Just more YOU'RE SOOOOOOO RACIST...BECAUSE!!! is what I'm usually seeing.

But I'm too lazy and busy pwning shit in the other window to have a serious argument, so have fun with that.
What exactly do you think racism looks like then, for contrast, if not repeated prejudicial antagonism toward a marginalized racial group? You do know it's not all just Nazi salutes and cartoonish goose-stepping... right?

I was referring to the number of posts in this thread alone, which I deffo have read -- hell, give him a hot minute and I'm sure he'll make 3 more enraged shitposts insisting that he's demonstrably "proven" how evil the BLM movement is, asserting that those who don't agree with his assessment are vile and disgusting sheep, or spouting some nonsense about peaceful protests. Like I said, I don't give a shit if he has a different political opinion -- it's obvious you do as well, and I've never given a shit about it. I do give a shit if he acts like an obnoxious asshole about it. I've given him plenty of opportunities to have genuine discussions on topics he's initiated, and he's pissed away every single one... so yeah, engaging with him is a colossal waste of time.

Hell, I've even agreed that some of the people attending the protests have become unproductively violent, some legit have their heads up their asses, and some are there solely to incite violence for their own ends -- it's just not the majority of them. I've said this before several times, but he doesn't actually processes anything that's not part of his internalized narrative.

[FlayedAngel]

And sworn testimony from his grandma.
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[Tgo01]

Since you asked, no I wouldnt classify myself as a proud boy. It's an explicitly racist organization

Do you identify with Antifa, an explicitly violent and hate filled organization? Why or why not?

[Tgo01]

Hell, I've even agreed that some of the people attending the protests have become unproductively violent, some legit have their heads up their asses, and some are there solely to incite violence for their own ends

Why are you repeatedly engaging in prejudicial antagonism toward a marginalized racial group?

[FlayedAngel]

Typically people don't marry someone they hate then go on to have kids with this person who they would deem to be an inferior race to themselves.

You mentioned an anecdote of your brother making dumb comments. I obviously don't know your brother but do you have more than him just making dumb comments? Because him being racist and only dating Latinas doesn't make sense either.

Your misogyny analogy doesn't work either. Misogynists aren't (necessarily) gay, they aren't going to start fucking men to own the womenfolk, so clearly they are going to date women and control them.

But why would a racist, who hates black people and thinks they are an inferior race, choose to marry a black woman over a white woman, then have children with this black woman who they would also consider to be part of an inferior race?

Is it possible, just maybe, you're wrong about this?
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People who harbor negative feelings toward other demographics, implicit or otherwise, sometimes date or fuck people in those same demographics in a misguided attempt to have a sense of superiority or control within the relationship -- one can have racial prejudices without being a white supremacist, for example, and the two are often conflated.

Just look at how many men vehemently rail in public about the "evils" of Teh Gays, for example, and then get busted having someone else's nuts in their mouth.

[FlayedAngel]

Why are you repeatedly engaging in prejudicial antagonism toward a marginalized racial group?
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[Tgo01]

I've given him plenty of opportunities to have genuine discussions on topics he's initiated

You're such a dishonest sack of shit.

When you first started whining in the politics folder I tried to be cordial with you because I always give people a chance but you were antagonistic almost from the very beginning. You took my mere disagreements as hostility towards your dumb ass arguments that are 99% of the time rooted in your feelings.

You're the typical far leftist scum bag, you say hate filled things on a near daily basis but you'll say "I vote Democrat therefore I'm a good person!" to absolve yourself of all your guilt.

[Methais]

Hold up.

You were just arguing that the guy in the picture above can't be racist, but now you say you don't even know what the Proud Boys are and haven't bothered looking them up?

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You and Tgo with your Schrodinger's arguments, goddamn.

It's from some old article I remembered seeing a while back. And it's doesn't change the fact that it's never not funny when people get called racist when they're literally married to and have kids with/of the race they're supposed to be racist against is the point.

Sorry for not being a Proud Boy expert though. Could you enlighten me? Or is it simply "A bunch of racists with beards?"

[Tgo01]

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That's not an answer for why you are repeatedly engaging in prejudicial antagonism toward a marginalized racial group.

[Methais]

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People who harbor negative feelings toward other demographics, implicit or otherwise, sometimes date or fuck people in those same demographics in a misguided attempt to have a sense of superiority or control within the relationship -- one can have racial prejudices without being a white supremacist, for example, and the two are often conflated.

Just look at how many men vehemently rail in public about the "evils" of Teh Gays, for example, and then get busted having someone else's nuts in their mouth.

Is that why they have kids with them too and continue their bloodline with what you say they think is an inferior race?

[FlayedAngel]

Do you identify with Antifa, an explicitly violent and hate filled organization? Why or why not?
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[Taernath]

This is so obviously an attempt to railroad this teenager and make martyrs out of all of the violent criminals who attacked him that day.

Shame on anyone agreeing with these charges. Your hate for Trump has clouded your good judgement and now you want to see an innocent teenager fry.

Damn those... *checks notes* Antifa district attorneys and their law enforcement cronies!

If only they had your expert legal analysis this 100% innocent kid wouldn't be in trouble (the other people can stay dead though)!

[Tgo01]

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People who harbor negative feelings toward other demographics, implicit or otherwise, sometimes date or fuck people in those same demographics in a misguided attempt to have a sense of superiority or control within the relationship -- one can have racial prejudices without being a white supremacist, for example, and the two are often conflated.

Just look at how many men vehemently rail in public about the "evils" of Teh Gays, for example, and then get busted having someone else's nuts in their mouth.

Holy fuck. You really think men who vehemently rail in public about the evils of gay men are really straight but they fuck gay men in a "misguided attempt to have a sense of superiority or control within the relationship"?

Christ almighty.

"Yes I'm a straight man, but I'm gonna let some dude fuck me in the ass, you know, so I can control him!"

You really do a disservice to gay men with this reductionist line of thinking. The type of men who do this are GAY, they just aren't open about it because society (religion, politics, family, friends, etc) has forced them into the closet and they feel pressured to speak out against gays.

Rather than feeling sorry for these people that they feel they have to live a life of lies, you denigrate them as only fucking men in an attempt to control gays.

You're not half as good of a person as you have made yourself believe you are.

[FlayedAngel]

Is that why they have kids with them too and continue their bloodline with what you say they think is an inferior race?
Come on, mah dude... that's the opposite of what I said:


...one can have racial prejudices without being a white supremacist, for example, and the two are often conflated.

[Tgo01]

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That's not an answer to the question of: Do you identify with Antifa, an explicitly violent and hate filled organization? Why or why not?

[FlayedAngel]

You're such a dishonest sack of shit.

When you first started whining in the politics folder I tried to be cordial with you because I always give people a chance but you were antagonistic almost from the very beginning. You took my mere disagreements as hostility towards your dumb ass arguments that are 99% of the time rooted in your feelings.

You're the typical far leftist scum bag, you say hate filled things on a near daily basis but you'll say "I vote Democrat therefore I'm a good person!" to absolve yourself of all your guilt.
Yeah, sure bud... I'm definitely the aggro one.

[Tgo01]

Damn those... *checks notes* Antifa district attorneys and their law enforcement cronies!

If only they had your expert legal analysis this 100% innocent kid wouldn't be in trouble (the other people can stay dead though)!

The videos are right there. Shit fuck the videos, go by the arrest complaint you yourself linked to. Fuck put yourself in the position of this kid. You're being chased by someone larger than you, they throw something at you, they grab for your gun, are you really trying to sit here and tell me you would wrestle over control of your gun with a much larger man rather than shoot this person? Remember that is what an eye witness said happened (that he grabbed for his gun) who was standing just a few feet away and it's in the complaint.

We both know you would have shot that fucker just as this teen did, but you can't bring yourself to admit that because you hate Trump this much. I feel sorry for you. Maybe someday you'll find peace in this hate filled heart of yours.

[Tgo01]

Come on, mah dude... that's the opposite of what I said:

So Proud Boys aren't white supremacists, they just have racial prejudices towards others?

[Taernath]

The videos are right there. Shit fuck the videos, go by the arrest complaint you yourself linked to. Fuck put yourself in the position of this kid. You're being chased by someone larger than you, they throw something at you, they grab for your gun, are you really trying to sit here and tell me you would wrestle over control of your gun with a much larger man rather than shoot this person?

We both know you would have shot that fucker just as this teen did, but you can't bring yourself to admit that because you hate Trump this much. I feel sorry for you. Maybe someday you'll find peace in this hate filled heart of yours.

First, I wouldn't be in the position of the kid because I wouldn't be dumb enough to take a gun that I'm not legally allowed to carry to a potentially violent event in order to 'defend' a random gas station.

Second, I wouldn't shoot someone throwing a fucking bag at me, because I'm not a bloodthirsty maniac, I have training with firearms, and I understand restraint.

Third, lol

[FlayedAngel]

You really do a disservice to gay men with this reductionist line of thinking. The type of men who do this are GAY, they just aren't open about it because society (religion, politics, family, friends, etc) has forced them into the closet and they feel pressured to speak out against gays.

Rather than feeling sorry for these people that they feel they have to live a life of lies, you denigrate them as only fucking men in an attempt to control gays.
Did I state anywhere in there that such was the only reason?

You do make one valid point however, and it would be reductive to say that's the only reason -- I was using that as an obviously flippant example, but sure... fair's fair.

[Alashir]

So Proud Boys aren't white supremacists, they just have racial prejudices towards others?

The president would be proud of your ability to deflect and change the subjects without directly answering questions. Press secretary position in your future perhaps?

[FlayedAngel]

So Proud Boys aren't white supremacists, they just have racial prejudices towards others?
Stop making stupid and specious assertions based on every goddamn thing I say.

[Tgo01]

First, I wouldn't be in the position of the kid because I wouldn't be dumb enough to take a gun that I'm not legally allowed to carry to a potentially violent event in order to 'defend' a random gas station.

Just because the teen was dumb doesn't give some grown ass pedophile the right to attack him. Stop with the nonsense.


Second, I wouldn't shoot someone throwing a fucking bag at me, because I'm not a bloodthirsty maniac, I have training with firearms, and I understand restraint.

Why are you ignoring the criminal complaint YOU linked to? An eye witness standing a couple of feet away told investigators that the pedophile tried to grab the gun from the teen. So stop with the deflections and let's stick to the facts: A violent pedophile is chasing you as you're running from him, he then grabs for your gun. Do you A) Fight for control over your gun with a larger man B) Shoot the pedophile in the head C) Willingly give up your life to a violent pedophile?

Sure sounds like you're saying the teen should have gone with C but we all know you yourself would have gone with B. Why do you hate white teenagers so much?

[Tgo01]

Did I state anywhere in there that such was the only reason?

This is why you're such a cowardly piece of shit. You always do this. "This is what why it happens!" "I didn't say it was the ONLY reason it happens!"

Okay so what are the other reasons for why a racist would marry members that are not of their own race and for why outspoken homophobes would fuck gay men?

[Tgo01]

The president would be proud of your ability to deflect and change the subjects without directly answering questions.


Stop making stupid and specious assertions based on every goddamn thing I say.

I'm just going by what you mental midgets are saying. Are Proud Boys white supremacists or do they just have racial prejudices towards others? Let's all get on the same page here.

It's always so much fun arguing with idiots.

Idiots: Proud Boys are a bunch of white supremacists!
Tgo01: Why would a white supremacist marry a black woman then have kids with this black woman who he himself would view as members of an inferior race?
Idiots: Racists aren't all white supremacists! Some just have racial prejudices towards others!
Tgo01: So are Proud Boys white supremacists or do they just have racial prejudices towards others?
Idiots: Stop deflecting! Stop making specious assertions based on what I say!!11