Portland.

[FlayedAngel]

Don't you have some violent rioters to defend while they burn down your city?
Don't you have some more shitposting to do? Oh wait, there it is.

[Tgo01]

Don't you have some more shitposting to do? Oh wait, there it is.

Why so angry, Karen?

[Solkern]

Why so angry, Karen?

You're the only Karen here.

[Tgo01]

You're the only Karen here.

The Democrats have gotten so pathetic and unoriginal they are calling people Karen today and thinking it's a clever insult.

Not the most pathetic thing I've ever seen, but it's up there.

That's three strikes, Solkern. Maybe you'll do better tomorrow.

[FlayedAngel]

The Democrats have gotten so pathetic and unoriginal they are calling people Karen today and thinking it's a clever insult.

Not the most pathetic thing I've ever seen, but it's up there.

That's three strikes, Solkern. Maybe you'll do better tomorrow.
You mean... like you just did?

[Tgo01]

You mean... like you just did?

Okay Karen.

[FlayedAngel]

Okay Karen.
You're very bad at this.

[Tgo01]

You're very bad at this.

Sure Karen.

[FlayedAngel]

Sure Karen.
Oh yeah, you're owning it.

[Tgo01]

Oh yeah, you're owning it.

Do you need the last word like always, Karen? Have at it.

[FlayedAngel]

Actually, I take that back.

It's kind of shitty to gang up on you, regardless... that's on me.

[FlayedAngel]

My apologies, dude.

[Solkern]

Hey tgo, about a week ago I contacted my friend that works in channel 1, Russia, I told him about these forum boards, and about you and the other right wing nut jobs here. he just contacted me, he wants to have an interview with just you, and possibly offer you a job, with Rossiyskaya Gazeta, a very famous newspaper in Russia. he said "He is just the type of person we need" It could be the perfect job for you, you can spout all your political shit you want, possibly even be on TV and get paid for it. If you are interested, PM me. I'll give you his business email, phone number, and all relevant contact information you need.

[drauz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufDM3U5UAB4

[Tgo01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbKvhnLoV0Q

10 minute supercut of peaceful protesters rioting.

[FlayedAngel]

Well... I tried.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Ll2fajzk9DgaY/giphy.gif

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1288181339594858498?s=20

This crazy white person reminds me of most Democrats on this forum.

[Tgo01]

Biggest piece of shit mayor to have ever lived, the mayor of Portland, demands a meeting with DHS to discuss a cease fire with the "protesters." (https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/portland-mayor-cease-fire-protesters-homeland-security-meeting/)

That's weird, why would you need to discuss a "cease fire" with a bunch of people who are just carrying signs and exercising their first amendment rights? Oops! Guess useless mayor Ted Wheeler let the cat out of the bag with this one.

[Candor]

Biggest piece of shit mayor to have ever lived, the mayor of Portland, demands a meeting with DHS to discuss a cease fire with the "protesters." (https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/portland-mayor-cease-fire-protesters-homeland-security-meeting/)

That's weird, why would you need to discuss a "cease fire" with a bunch of people who are just carrying signs and exercising their first amendment rights? Oops! Guess useless mayor Ted Wheeler let the cat out of the bag with this one.

Here's an approach to consider:

1. Make it crystal clear to the Mayor of Portland (and the Governor's office) that local law enforcement has completely failed and that federal troops will now solve the problem. Also make it clear that there will be no tolerance for interference with federal troops.
2. Aggressively arrest non-peaceful protestors every day and night until the violence ends. Deploy additional troops as needed.
3. Conduct trials and sentence guilty non-peaceful protestors to lengthy prison terms.

[Tgo01]

Here's an approach to consider:

1. Make it crystal clear to the Mayor of Portland (and the Governor's office) that local law enforcement has completely failed and that federal troops will now solve the problem. Also make it clear that there will be no tolerance for interference with federal troops.
2. Aggressively arrest non-peaceful protestors every day and night until the violence ends. Deploy additional troops as needed.
3. Conduct trials and sentence guilty non-peaceful protestors to lengthy prison terms.

I agree with points 2 and 3 but point 1 is slightly wrong. The local law enforcement hasn't failed, it's the Democrat leadership at every level in Oregon that has failed. The city of Portland, led by their worthless sack of shit mayor, has hamstrung the police's ability to do their job.

Rioters are literally released from jail within hours, sometimes within minutes, because Portland has made it so cheap and easy to post bail for violent criminals that the rioters are right back on the streets the very next night.

This is what happens people vote Democrat, criminals are placed above law abiding citizens.

[Bhaalizmo]

I agree with points 2 and 3 but point 1 is slightly wrong. The local law enforcement hasn't failed, it's the Democrat leadership at every level in Oregon that has failed. The city of Portland, led by their worthless sack of shit mayor, has hamstrung the police's ability to do their job.

Rioters are literally released from jail within hours, sometimes within minutes, because Portland has made it so cheap and easy to post bail for violent criminals that the rioters are right back on the streets the very next night.

This is what happens people vote Democrat, criminals are placed above law abiding citizens.

You're so triggered. And wrong, like all the time in just about everything you say. Your hate speech is getting less veiled.

[Tgo01]

You're so triggered. And wrong, like all the time in just about everything you say. Your hate speech is getting less veiled.

Facts too much for Bhaalizmo's pea-sized brain to handle.

[Neveragain]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1288181339594858498?s=20

This crazy white person reminds me of most Democrats on this forum.

J to the ROC is black though.

[Bhaalizmo]

Facts too much for Bhaalizmo's pea-sized brain to handle.

Right, right, which is why you make up 90% of my opinions when you argue against me. Cause you're so grounded in the facts. Gotcha.

[Tgo01]

J to the ROC is black though.

Bubbles agrees.

[Tgo01]

Right, right, which is why you make up 90% of my opinions when you argue against me. Cause you're so grounded in the facts. Gotcha.

You're not that deep, Bhaalizmo.

[Bhaalizmo]

You're not that deep, Bhaalizmo.

Deep these nuts.

Remind yourself not to make up 90% of what I think the next time you debate me in any amount of detail. Cause you do it every time and it's why you're always wrong. I don't think you do it on purpose to cause further debate, but in the end that's all it does. Cause everyone has to come back and correct you for all the fanciful BS you've made up.

[Tgo01]

Remind yourself not to make up 90% of what I think the next time you debate me in any amount of detail. Cause you do it every time and it's why you're always wrong. I don't think you do it on purpose to cause further debate, but in the end that's all it does. Cause everyone has to come back and correct you for all the fanciful BS you've made up.

What opinions of yours have I made up again? That you haven't called out the violent rioters in Portland? Because I'm pretty sure you haven't called out the violent rioters in Portland. But then again you far leftists are all blending together lately that maybe you snuck a post in somewhere where you actually had the balls to say the violent rioters are wrong to blind police officers and try to burn down a courthouse they are stationed in. But from what I recall all you ever do is blame the police for the violence coming from the rioters.

[Bhaalizmo]

What opinions of yours have I made up again? That you haven't called out the violent rioters in Portland? Because I'm pretty sure you haven't called out the violent rioters in Portland. But then again you far leftists are all blending together lately that maybe you snuck a post in somewhere where you actually had the balls to say the violent rioters are wrong to blind police officers and try to burn down a courthouse they are stationed in. But from what I recall all you ever do is blame the police for the violence coming from the rioters.

Every time someone calls you out on your BS, you try to make them do research and dig up the old threads and link them so you can waste time endlessly debating them on it. I don't care that much to waste my time, you know you're doing it. You read the responses when I called you out on it. Go fuck yourself.

Let me try that back. Show me where I blamed the police for the violence coming from the rioters. See? Can't do it, cause it's made up. The difference is, I choose not to back up my argument by researching your fanciful made shit up about everyone arguments because it's a waste of my time. You, on the other hand won't research it and "prove" it because you can't, because you made it up.

[Solkern]

Every time someone calls you out on your BS, you try to make them do research and dig up the old threads and link them so you can waste time endlessly debating them on it. I don't care that much to waste my time, you know you're doing it. You read the responses when I called you out on it. Go fuck yourself.

Let me try that back. Show me where I blamed the police for the violence coming from the rioters. See? Can't do it, cause it's made up. The difference is, I choose not to back up my argument by researching your fanciful made shit up about everyone arguments because it's a waste of my time. You, on the other hand won't research it and "prove" it because you can't, because you made it up.

Can’t research what’s not there. Dude tgo said that “quoting or saying what the founding fathers said” a few posts later, he denies ever saying it.
That’s the type of person he is, he’s so caught up in his web of His own bullshit that he doesn’t even know what he posts anymore. Soon he will he just screaming fake news!

[Parkbandit]

I never understand why they choose the Soviet Union as their rallying symbol. It's like one of the worst versions of communism/socialism you can come up with.

It was the most "successful". It lasted some 70 years or so... which is the current record.

[Solkern]

It was the most "successful". It lasted some 70 years or so... which is the current record.

I wouldn’t say it was successful, I guess not falling apart could be considered successful lol. China is a better example imo.
Maybe they haven’t lasted as long, but they are definitely fixing/not doing the mistakes the Russians did.

[Tgo01]

Let me try that back. Show me where I blamed the police for the violence coming from the rioters. See? Can't do it, cause it's made up. The difference is, I choose not to back up my argument by researching your fanciful made shit up about everyone arguments because it's a waste of my time. You, on the other hand won't research it and "prove" it because you can't, because you made it up.

Look at the guy calling everyone he disagrees with a racist based on nothing at all try to take the high road here.

You're pathetic, Bhaalizmo. The only people you impress are people just as pathetic as you such as Solkern.

[Parkbandit]

https://i.insider.com/5ed3fbe22618b93b3f3e7c45?width=600&format=jpeg&auto=webp

Patrick Henry, Betsy Ross and Alexander Hamilton.

[~Rocktar~]

I wouldn’t say it was successful, I guess not falling apart could be considered successful lol. China is a better example imo.
Maybe they haven’t lasted as long, but they are definitely fixing/not doing the mistakes the Russians did.

They aren't fixing anything other than their control/manipulation of complicit Western Leftists and companies seeking their money.

[Blazar]

Look at the guy calling everyone he disagrees with a racist based on nothing at all try to take the high road here.

You're pathetic, Bhaalizmo. The only people you impress are people just as pathetic as you such as Solkern.

LOL, you are a racist, and a fucking idiot. Funny guy too.

[Tgo01]

LOL, you are a racist, and a fucking idiot. Funny guy too.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/3o6ozvv0zsJskzOCbu/giphy.gif

[Blazar]

Sometimes the truth is absolutely hilarious.

[Bhaalizmo]

Look at the guy calling everyone he disagrees with a racist based on nothing at all try to take the high road here.

You're pathetic, Bhaalizmo. The only people you impress are people just as pathetic as you such as Solkern.

There you go again making stuff up. I do not call everyone I disagree with a racist. However, plenty of people here have called YOU racist because you display the close minded black & white thinking of one here for all to see. Every day. You know how I know you're racist? Because you think and debate like one.

[Candor]

I agree with points 2 and 3 but point 1 is slightly wrong. The local law enforcement hasn't failed, it's the Democrat leadership at every level in Oregon that has failed. The city of Portland, led by their worthless sack of shit mayor, has hamstrung the police's ability to do their job.

Rioters are literally released from jail within hours, sometimes within minutes, because Portland has made it so cheap and easy to post bail for violent criminals that the rioters are right back on the streets the very next night.

This is what happens people vote Democrat, criminals are placed above law abiding citizens.

You're right. I stand corrected.

[Bhaalizmo]

LOL, Tgo is a racist, and a fucking idiot. Funny guy too.

I can agree with two of these three points, but not the last.

[Solkern]

I can agree with two of these three points, but not the last.

I think tgo is fucking hilarious, watching him go, is 100% entertaining.

[Bhaalizmo]

I think tgo is fucking hilarious, watching him go, is 100% entertaining.

The PC itself doesn't seem to agree

https://i.imgur.com/P6GxOLd.png

[Tgo01]

https://i.imgur.com/fSB2tw4.png

Confirmed Bhaalizmo is a bigot who likes to huff sharts.

[Solkern]

Just wow.

https://i.imgur.com/Z390BYO.jpg

These forum boards think very highly of you! /end sarcasm

[Bhaalizmo]

Just wow.

https://i.imgur.com/Z390BYO.jpg

These forum boards think very highly of you! /end sarcasm

Lots of love there.

[Blazar]

I can agree with two of these three points, but not the last.

Come on man, if you can't laugh at idiots, you're doing it wrong. He's not funny intentionally, he just kind of... is funny. You know? It's not giving him any credit, but he is definitely amusing.

[FlayedAngel]

An interesting article with an on-the-ground view of the protests:

https://thebigsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/SeanDavis_032_IMG_1710-Copy.jpeg

https://thebigsmoke.com/2020/07/28/black-lives-matter-the-battle-of-lownsdale-square-portland-oregon

[FlayedAngel]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/115899700_4168221989916405_4393852056878390726_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=zw0xLTUrX2EAX-wCJrU&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=863431452498d754fef331048bbf9954&oe=5F472742

[Tgo01]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/115899700_4168221989916405_4393852056878390726_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=zw0xLTUrX2EAX-wCJrU&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=863431452498d754fef331048bbf9954&oe=5F472742

Don't the police have a point? Why are they bringing shields to these peaceful protests?

Maybe...just MAYBE...it's time we stop giving the largely peaceful protesters a pass for not holding the violent people among them accountable.

Maybe it's time people stop being silent about the aggressive and violent tactics of their fellow "protesters."

Let's end the thin communist line.

[Bhaalizmo]

Don't the police have a point? Why are they bringing shields to these peaceful protests?

Cause the police are brutally attacking civilians at the protest.


Maybe...just MAYBE...it's time we stop giving the largely peaceful protesters a pass for not holding the violent people among them accountable

Alternatively, maybe, just MAYBE it's about time we hold our police accountable and don't accept violent policing.

[Tgo01]

Alternatively, maybe, just MAYBE it's about time we hold our police accountable and don't accept violent policing.

Hey look at that, Bhaalizmo is capable of grasping the point after all. Baby steps, Bhaalizmo, baby steps!

[Tgo01]

Black conservative journalist stabbed by largely peaceful protester in Portland. (https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/man-knifed-in-back-at-portland-protest-i-was-stabbed-for-being-a-conservative-journalist.html)

Just curious; how much longer are you all going to keep downplaying this violence or pinning the blame on police? Just a simple question which requires a simple answer. Are any of you capable?

[Alfster]

I don't think anyone is saying there isn't violence - they're saying that the majority of protesters aren't violent. There's no reason to stab someone - and the stabber should be locked up. That doesn't make every protestor violent.

[Tgo01]

I don't think anyone is saying there isn't violence - they're saying that the majority of protesters aren't violent. There's no reason to stab someone - and the stabber should be locked up. That doesn't make every protestor violent.

One vote for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

[Gelston]

Portland should just throw in the towel. I think it would be an interesting experiment to have a city/municipality that is completely lawless. Will people work together and do the right thing? Will it devolve into terror?

[Bhaalizmo]

Hey look at that, Bhaalizmo is capable of grasping the point after all. Baby steps, Bhaalizmo, baby steps!

Aww. Don't care what you think. You're only barely undercover. Eat a bag of dicks!

[Bhaalizmo]

I don't think anyone is saying there isn't violence - they're saying that the majority of protesters aren't violent. There's no reason to stab someone - and the stabber should be locked up. That doesn't make every protestor violent.

This.

It's much like police departments. Just because there's one good cop in a precinct full of facist pigs, doesn't mean that the police department is as a whole good.

[Solkern]

This.

It's much like police departments. Just because there's one good cop in a precinct full of facist pigs, doesn't mean that the police department is as a whole good.

Tgo lacks the ability to see this. If one protestor is violent, they all are, no excuse.
Sadly, if the police are bad, he gives them more excuses than a child caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Any excuse that fits his narrative are ok, any excuse that doesn’t, he starts the whataboutisms, or starts the blame game, passing the buck, until your brain explodes and he thinks he wins.

[Bhaalizmo]

Tgo lacks the ability to see this. If one protestor is violent, they all are, no excuse.
Sadly, if the police are bad, he gives them more excuses than a child caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Any excuse that fits his narrative are ok, any excuse that doesn’t, he starts the whataboutisms, or starts the blame game, passing the buck, until your brain explodes and he thinks he wins.

I personally find the part where he makes up a bunch of stuff you think / do / believe in as if you just stated it in detail the most off-putting. That kills me every time. Like, wait... what? Just fabricating on the fly to suit his narrative. Fun stuff. He should write fiction.

For example: TGo replying to your post above.

"You believe that protesters are all soccer moms from Kansas and you can't prove I said what I just said. Provide links"

[Tgo01]

Will it devolve into terror?

This one.

[Tgo01]

This.

It's much like police departments. Just because there's one good cop in a precinct full of facist pigs, doesn't mean that the police department is as a whole good.

Two votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

You guys are doing great!

[Tgo01]

I personally find the part where he makes up a bunch of stuff you think / do / believe in as if you just stated it in detail the most off-putting. That kills me every time. Like, wait... what? Just fabricating on the fly to suit his narrative. Fun stuff. He should write fiction.

For example: TGo replying to your post above.

"You believe that protesters are all soccer moms from Kansas and you can't prove I said what I just said. Provide links"

You fantasize about me a lot. This isn't me making up shit you say/think, it's just a simple observation.

[Bhaalizmo]

Two votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

You guys are doing great!


https://youtu.be/c5fts7bj-so

[Bhaalizmo]

You fantasize about me a lot. This isn't me making up shit you say/think, it's just a simple observation.

Nah, that's not fantasy. It's actually what you do every day. Go look at your posts.

[Gelston]

This one.

Not necessarily. I honestly think they'd just create a new police force themselves but under a different name.

[FlayedAngel]

Don't the police have a point? Why are they bringing shields to these peaceful protests?

Maybe...just MAYBE...it's time we stop giving the largely peaceful protesters a pass for not holding the violent people among them accountable.

Maybe it's time people stop being silent about the aggressive and violent tactics of their fellow "protesters."

Let's end the thin communist line.
I get that you feel threatened by pool noodles, but come on.

[Bhaalizmo]

I get that you feel threatened by pool noodles, but come on.

Do you think it's the length, or the girth?

[FlayedAngel]

Portland should just throw in the towel. I think it would be an interesting experiment to have a city/municipality that is completely lawless. Will people work together and do the right thing? Will it devolve into terror?
It would an interesting experiment, sure, but I don't think abolishing laws and law enforcement is the common goal. This should be more about police reform and accountability, not abolishment -- that's a much more extreme end of the spectrum.

Utter lawlessness would be a nightmare, as laws are an important part of society... abuse of authority is not.

[Tgo01]

Not necessarily. I honestly think they'd just create a new police force themselves but under a different name.

I think the anarchists who punch people for being "Nazis" would be the ones running the police department so it would just be brown shirts on steroids.

Keep in mind I think such a scenario could work in theory. But if we are talking about Portland in particular I think it would be a huge clusterfuck.

[Tgo01]

I get that you feel threatened by pool noodles, but come on.

You can deny and deflect all you want but Jesus still watches you when you masturbate.

[FlayedAngel]

video of one guy getting stabbed by another guy (https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/07/man-knifed-in-back-at-portland-protest-i-was-stabbed-for-being-a-conservative-journalist.html)

Just curious; how much longer are you all going to keep downplaying this violence or pinning the blame on police? Just a simple question which requires a simple answer. Are any of you capable?


Tgo lacks the ability to see this. If one protestor is violent, they all are, no excuse.
Sadly, if the police are bad, he gives them more excuses than a child caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
Any excuse that fits his narrative are ok, any excuse that doesn’t, he starts the whataboutisms, or starts the blame game, passing the buck, until your brain explodes and he thinks he wins.


Two votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

You guys are doing great!
You continue ignoring the numerous times this has been answered, but yet again: I'm in no way downplaying the violence, I'm simply of the opinion that proactive violence is not representative of the larger movement. It is an unfortunately counterproductive byproduct of a few extremists, or (more long-term) an inappropriately combative approach to dealing with the protests. And -- yet again -- "pinning" the blame on police would imply that blame is being unfairly attributed.


(Spoiler: it's not)

By the logic you continue to adhere to, I know at least one conservative that's a racist asshole -- does that mean that all conservatives are racist assholes? Just a simple question which requires a simple answer, are you capable?

[Tgo01]

You continue ignoring the numerous times this has been answered, but yet again: I'm in no way downplaying the violence, I'm simply of the opinion that proactive violence is not representative of the larger movement. It is an unfortunately counterproductive byproduct of a few extremists, or (more long-term) an inappropriately combative approach to dealing with the protests. And -- yet again -- "pinning" the blame on police would imply that blame is being unfairly attributed.


(Spoiler: it's not)

By the logic you continue to adhere to, I know at least one conservative that's a racist asshole -- does that mean that all conservatives are racist assholes? Just a simple question which requires a simple answer, are you capable?

That's three votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

It's time to come to the realization that the Portland rioters are just that: rioters.

Image of largely peaceful protester hurling love bombs at police:

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/07/portland-riot-burning-trash-fire-getty-640x480.jpg

[drauz]

Not necessarily. I honestly think they'd just create a new police force themselves but under a different name.

I mean didn't they do a dry run with CHAZ/CHOP? And it failed spectacularly.

[Tgo01]

I mean didn't they do a dry run with CHAZ/CHOP? And it failed spectacularly.

Highest murder rate in the entire world.

[Voldemort]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRm987hqeQspbtsFUbCWO0tQ0wp4aC DDDrsFQ&usqp=CAU

[drauz]

That's three votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

It's time to come to the realization that the Portland rioters are just that: rioters.

Image of largely peaceful protester hurling love bombs at police:

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/07/portland-riot-burning-trash-fire-getty-640x480.jpg

Keep sticking your head in the sand.

Here are your largely violent protests.

https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_30/3399688/200724-portland-protest-se-507p_1e18768495b8b5ae9d86c33a7333b640.fit-2000w.jpg

https://www.incimages.com/uploaded_files/image/1920x1080/GettyImages-1227766277_437393.jpg

https://media.kgw.com/assets/KGW/images/d1239831-68ac-47b9-952b-83bb5192ce9a/d1239831-68ac-47b9-952b-83bb5192ce9a_750x422.jpg



But keep posting those one offs and acting like its the 99%.

[Tgo01]

Keep sticking your head in the sand.

Here are your largely violent protests.

But keep posting those one offs and acting like its the 99%.

That's four votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

You don't fix the problem by ignoring the bad people and focusing on just the good ones and saying "Look! 99% are good! That's good enough right?"

Isn't that like the EXACT thing these rioters are rioting about? You know, police accountability? Only difference is all people are saying is arrest the violent rioters and let the peaceful people protest all they want, while the rioters and protesters are saying "A few bad cops??!?!?! Get rid of all cops!!!"

Either have a consistent argument or don't have an argument at all.

/mic drop

Tgo01 OUT!

[FlayedAngel]

You can deny and deflect all you want but Jesus still watches you when you masturbate.
Again: you're not demonstrating a firm grasp of what words mean, or how to apply them.



That's three votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

It's time to come to the realization that the Portland rioters are just that: rioters.

Images of largely peaceful protester hurling love bombs at police:

https://www.wweek.com/resizer/nKbkle8mEEADUPkO-T9Y9SW-yRY=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/wweek/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/26183327/IMG_1372_1.jpg

https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2020_30/3399688/200724-portland-protest-se-507p_1e18768495b8b5ae9d86c33a7333b640.fit-2000w.jpg

https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2020%2F07%2F20%2F wall-of-moms.jpg&q=85

https://pamplinmedia.com/images/artimg/00003673980612-0651.jpg

Soooo riot, much death and destruction.

[Tgo01]

Keep denying and deflecting.

A few cops do bad things.
"ACAB!!!!!!"

A few rioters do bad things.

"So what? 99% are good. Feel the love!"

If it weren't for double standards far leftists wouldn't have any standards at all.

[Tgo01]

From now on whenever a cop does something bad I'm just going to reply with this image:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3uOsRZwZk34/maxresdefault.jpg

Along with this caption: "So what if a cop did something bad? Over 99% of cops are good people! Stop trying to tear this country apart by mentioning the bad ones and demanding we hold them accountable!!!!11"

Also the above image is an excellent Rorschach test.

What a normal person sees: a police officer saving the life of a choking baby.
What racists like Bhaalizmo sees: a police officer trying to choke a black baby.

[FlayedAngel]

That's four votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

You don't fix the problem by ignoring the bad people and focusing on just the good ones and saying "Look! 99% are good! That's good enough right?"

Isn't that like the EXACT thing these rioters are rioting about? You know, police accountability? Only difference is all people are saying is arrest the violent rioters and let the peaceful people protest all they want, while the rioters and protesters are saying "A few bad cops??!?!?! Get rid of all cops!!!"
Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's an idiotic and grossly simplistic argument that topples your own point -- try switching it around.

And you do realize that those things aren't even remotely comparable... right?



Either have a consistent argument or don't have an argument at all.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/e4ccc2e7a49c79b0c8e28a31955909bd/tenor.gif




/mic drop

Tgo01 OUT!
Yeah, I fully believe that.

https://i.imgur.com/kd7Qumk.gif

[drauz]

That's four votes for: continue to downplay/blame the police forever.

You don't fix the problem by ignoring the bad people and focusing on just the good ones and saying "Look! 99% are good! That's good enough right?"

Isn't that like the EXACT thing these rioters are rioting about? You know, police accountability? Only difference is all people are saying is arrest the violent rioters and let the peaceful people protest all they want, while the rioters and protesters are saying "A few bad cops??!?!?! Get rid of all cops!!!"

Either have a consistent argument or don't have an argument at all.

/mic drop

Tgo01 OUT!

My argument has been consistent, you just aren't able to understand anything with nuance. You just have a ridiculous black and white view, it seems to everything.

As has been brought up before though, which side has more authority and should be held to a higher standard. Only one side is being punished for their bad behavior. The police sure aren't. You just want these protesters punished and seem to care nothing about the police using excessive force.

Before you say, bUt I dO. You only focus on the protesters, you don't care about police brutality at all.

[Tgo01]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's an idiotic and grossly simplistic argument that topples your own point.

And you do realize that those things aren't even remotely comparable... right?



https://media1.tenor.com/images/e4ccc2e7a49c79b0c8e28a31955909bd/tenor.gif




Yeah, I fully believe that.

https://i.imgur.com/kd7Qumk.gif

You're really bad at arguing your point.

Literally every single one of your posts amounts to "You're wrong cause I say so!"

No actual counter arguments, no points to be had, no statistics, no real rebuttal. Just some variation of "you're an idiot", "that's not comparable", "that's not the same thing", "it's different when my side does it." And of course your ultimate weapon: deflect, deflect, deflect! Don't forget your penultimate weapon: "I know you are but what am I?"

"How DARE you compare calling out the few bad apples of the police to calling out the few bad apples of the rioters!!! The rioters and I agree!!11111!!!"

[drauz]

Keep denying and deflecting.

A few cops do bad things.
"ACAB!!!!!!"

A few rioters do bad things.

"So what? 99% are good. Feel the love!"

If it weren't for double standards far leftists wouldn't have any standards at all.

Something you'll never grasp, the police should be held to a higher standard.

[Tgo01]

You only focus on the protesters, you don't care about police brutality at all.

Well that's just absolute bullshit deranged people throw out when they know they can't argue the point when it comes to these riots.

"But...but you don't care about police brutality!!! WAAHHHHHHHHH!"

Like seriously, it's time to grow up already.

I think everyone is concerned about police brutality and wants it to stop.

But much like leftists have destroyed the meaning of the word "racist" they have destroyed the meaning of the word "police brutality."

The sonofbitches are considering using tear gas to be "police brutality" so if you think I'm going to call out the usage of tear gas against these rioters as "police brutality" then you are sorely mistaken, because I'm not a retard like your typical far leftist is.

[Tgo01]

Something you'll never grasp, the police should be held to a higher standard.

Um, no? What kind of dumb shit is this?

Police pepper sprays someone: "OMG!!! Police brutality!!!"

A rioter throws a Molotov cocktail at a federal courthouse: "Oh well, rioters will be rioters!"

Violence is violence and it should all be called out and dealt with.

[FlayedAngel]

You're really bad at arguing your point.

Literally every single one of your posts amounts to "You're wrong cause I say so!"
*You're wrong cause I try to demonstrate logical reasoning, make reasonable cases, and let people judge for themselves.

FTFY.



No actual counter arguments, no points to be had, no statistics, no real rebuttal. Just some variation of "you're an idiot", "that's not comparable", "that's not the same thing", "it's different when my side does it." And of course your ultimate weapon: deflect, deflect, deflect!

"How DARE you compare calling out the few bad apples of the police to calling out the few bad apples of the rioters!!! The rioters and I agree!!11111!!!"
Sure, dude... I thought you mic-dropped and were out?

[Tgo01]

*You're wrong cause I try to demonstrate logical reasoning, make reasonable cases, and let people judge for themselves.

Whatever makes you feel better about your terrible arguments.


Sure, dude... I thought you mic-dropped and were out?

Why so serious? Relax.

[Methais]

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000007247168/video-shows-police-beating-portland-protester.html

I need to see that guy’s gear.

[FlayedAngel]

Whatever makes you feel better about your terrible arguments.

Why so serious? Relax.
Project more, dude.

[Tgo01]

Project more, dude.


Don't forget your penultimate weapon: "I know you are but what am I?"

Tgo01 right-o-meter: Over 1 billion.

[drauz]

Well that's just absolute bullshit deranged people throw out when they know they can't argue the point when it comes to these riots.

"But...but you don't care about police brutality!!! WAAHHHHHHHHH!"

Like seriously, it's time to grow up already.

I think everyone is concerned about police brutality and wants it to stop.

But much like leftists have destroyed the meaning of the word "racist" they have destroyed the meaning of the word "police brutality."

The sonofbitches are considering using tear gas to be "police brutality" so if you think I'm going to call out the usage of tear gas against these rioters as "police brutality" then you are sorely mistaken, because I'm not a retard like your typical far leftist is.

iTs OnLy TeAr GaS bRo

Except the people taking rubber bullets to the head putting a hole in their face and fracturing their skulls.

You're a deluded retard if you think its just tear gas and pepper spray. Or you're just willfully ignoring things you don't want to hear.

[Tgo01]

Except the people taking rubber bullets to the head putting a hole in their face and fracturing their skulls.

Oh I see, so literally any use of force, justified or not, is now considered "police brutality."

Got it. The left ruins everything.

[Methais]

Speaking of....

Methais and PB aren't here in full force spreading their bullshit? Oh that's right, they were just attracted to the CHAZ thread because *I* needed attention. Plus, they prefer to bully women.

Flayed, you have the patience of a saint. Respect.

Sorry I’m late, but here’s that attention you ordered.

You seem to think you get “bullied” because you’re a woman.

In reality, you’re always the instigator, like you are here, and then you cry victim and sexism when you get called out for being an unhinged shameless attention whore who is severely lacking in self-awareness.

None of that has anything to do with you being a woman. The problem is that you’re just a bitter and mentally unstable batshit insane ginormous cunt, and everyone who isn’t you can see it clear as day.

Being a cunt has nothing to do with being a woman. Being a cunt has everything to do with being a cunt.

And you...you’re just a really huge cunt.

You’re probably a dude anyway.

[FlayedAngel]

/mic drop

Tgo01 OUT!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f0eb1d2132c2d0c3868f00c19a45a856/tenor.gif

[Bhaalizmo]

Sorry I’m late, but here’s that attention you ordered.

You seem to think you get “bullied” because you’re a woman.

In reality, you’re always the instigator, like you are here, and then you cry victim and sexism when you get called out for being an unhinged shameless attention whore who is severely lacking in self-awareness.

None of that has anything to do with you being a woman. The problem is that you’re just a bitter and mentally unstable batshit insane ginormous cunt, and everyone who isn’t you can see it clear as day.

Being a cunt has nothing to do with being a woman. Being a cunt has everything to do with being a cunt.

And you...you’re just a really huge cunt.

You’re probably a dude anyway.

Nah. You guys really do just attack women a good bit harder than you do the rest of us here opposing your BS. Own it.

[Tgo01]

Nah. You guys really do just attack women a good bit harder than you do the rest of us here opposing your BS. Own it.

Confirmation bias detected!

Scanning.

Confirmation bias confirmed!

[drauz]

Oh I see, so literally any use of force, justified or not, is now considered "police brutality."

Got it. The left ruins everything.

Cool, strawman you got there. Keep trying to put words I didn't say in my mouth.

[Bhaalizmo]

Confirmation bias detected!

Scanning.

Confirmation bias confirmed!

Bias. Something you are full of but know nothing about, you ignorant racist fuck.

[Tgo01]

Bias. Something you are full of but know nothing about, you ignorant racist fuck.

So touchy when facts are thrown your way.

[Solkern]

So touchy when facts are thrown your way.

You wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you in the face.

[Methais]

Nah. You guys really do just attack women a good bit harder than you do the rest of us here opposing your BS. Own it.

I know you’re just being a weak troll because you’re not good at anything, but other than time4fun, who gets attacked over her mega stupidity and for sniffing her own farts all day, plus there’s a high probability that she has a dick in real life and is a dude anyway, what other “women“ are you talking about again? Be specific.

In before crickets.

[Tgo01]

You wouldn’t know a fact if it hit you in the face.

So far you're doing terribly today. Was hoping you would earn a 4th reply today but at this rate you might lose one. SAD!

[Solkern]

So far you're doing terribly today. Was hoping you would earn a 4th reply today but at this rate you might lose one. SAD!

Oh that’s too bad Karen, I was hoping too! Oh wait, I don’t give a shit, because you’re an idiot.
Keep being an idiot and letting people put you in your place. Keep leaving those facts out or ignoring them!

[Tgo01]

Oh wait, I don’t give a shit

And yet you keep trying to get my attention. It's okay to admit you admire me.

Do better tomorrow.

[Solkern]

And yet you keep trying to get my attention. It's okay to admit you admire me.

Do better tomorrow.

It’s not admire, more like pity, I feel sorry for you, never knew someone could be as stupid and blind as you.

[FlayedAngel]

Another "mostly peaceful protester" here.


We came out here in t-shirts, they started gassing us. We came back with respirators, they started shooting us. We came back with vests, they started aiming for the head... And now they call us terrorists. Who’s escalating this? It’s not us.

https://twitter.com/its_willyu/status/1288679475366912000

[Bhaalizmo]

It’s not admire, more like pity, I feel sorry for you, never knew someone could be as stupid and blind as you.

Remember, every time you think this about Tgo, you're missing the point. It's not outright stupidity or blindness, both of which would be less dangerous than what it actually is. It's willful ignorance. Chosen.

[Tgo01]

Another "mostly peaceful protester" here.

Over 99% of police officers are good people who save lives on a regular basis. Why do you feel the need to focus on a few bad officers when you know over 99% of police officers are good people who save lives on a regular basis? What is the point of this? What are you trying to prove? We all know there are just a handful of so called "bad" police officers, so why keep bringing it up? It serves no purposes other than to detract from the fact that over 99% of police officers are good people who save lives.

Do better and stop being so negative and instead focus on the over 99% of police officers who are good people and save lives.

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/NkSU42smf5u0r0accYi0asO1cPI=/1400x0/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/2TEVJ5KDFN33FTNZKBUEUQGEQI.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YbCchkfjXAk/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9RcsfLA-hLk/hqdefault.jpg

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5_tdwfHJM_s/WabKvDMW4HI/AAAAAAAAJVA/CuxsyVh5sNoKsMFG1CSkAqnwMzpsil6UgCLcBGAs/s1600/Houston-Flood-Rescue-August-2017.jpg

[Tgo01]

More so called "racist" police officers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjXJ-ceXoAAhY3B.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M6AOidLSYLs/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/11/09/3626B8C200000578-3684161-image-a-34_1468227446108.jpg

https://cdn.abcotvs.com/dip/images/6226573_AP20153855510621.jpg

[Tgo01]

Remember, every time you think this about Tgo, you're missing the point. It's not outright stupidity or blindness, both of which would be less dangerous than what it actually is. It's willful ignorance. Chosen.

You wound me, Bhaalizmo. Oh wait, the opinion of a legit sexist who spouts communist propaganda means less than shit to me. Carry on then.

[Parkbandit]

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/c_fill,g_auto,w_1200,h_675,ar_16:9/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets %2F170817183959-antifa-unmasking-anti-facists-orig-nws-00003030.jpg

A closeup shot of Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, moments before sitting down with John Adams (not shown) to write the Declaration of Independence.

[Methais]

Oh that’s too bad Karen, I was hoping too! Oh wait, I don’t give a shit, because you’re an idiot.
Keep being an idiot and letting people put you in your place. Keep leaving those facts out or ignoring them!


https://i.imgur.com/43eOIIL.gif

[FlayedAngel]

Over 99% of police officers are good people who save lives on a regular basis. Why do you feel the need to focus on a few bad officers when you know over 99% of police officers are good people who save lives on a regular basis? What is the point of this? What are you trying to prove? We all know there are just a handful of so called "bad" police officers, so why keep bringing it up? It serves no purposes other than to detract from the fact that over 99% of police officers are good people who save lives.

Do better and stop being so negative and instead focus on the over 99% of police officers who are good people and save lives.

Over 99% of protesters are good people who care about the lives of their fellow human beings. Why do you feel the need to focus on a few bad protesters when you know over 99% of protesters are good people who care passionately about important causes? What is the point of this? What are you trying to prove? We all know there are just a handful of so called "bad" protesters, so why keep bringing it up? It serves no purposes other than to detract from the fact that over 99% of protesters are good people who have suffered terrible losses, as well as families and moms and vets who sympathize and care about other people.

Do better and stop being so negative and instead focus on the over 99% of protesters who are trying to do some good.

[Tgo01]

Over 99% of protesters are good people who care about the lives of their fellow human beings. Why do you feel the need to focus on a few bad protesters when you know over 99% of protesters are good people who care passionately about important causes? What is the point of this? What are you trying to prove? We all know there are just a handful of so called "bad" protesters, so why keep bringing it up? It serves no purposes other than to detract from the fact that over 99% of protesters are good people who have suffered terrible losses, as well as families and moms and vets who sympathize and care about other people.

Do better and stop being so negative and instead focus on the over 99% of protesters who are trying to do some good.

Wait a minute!!!

Are you saying it's dumb to excuse the behavior of a few bad apples simply because over 99% of the people in said group are good people? Are you also suggesting we should want to hold the bad apples accountable and by doing so we aren't saying all people in said group are bad and that's just a cheap deflection tactic to pull the focus off of the bad actors?

Are you saying it doesn't matter if over 99% of the people in a group are good people and that it makes sense to highlight the bad people whenever and wherever we might find these bad people?

Because if you're saying this I more than 99% agree, I 100% agree.

[FlayedAngel]

Wait a minute!!!

Are you saying it's dumb to excuse the behavior of a few bad apples simply because over 99% of the people in said group are good people? Are you also suggesting we should want to hold the bad apples accountable and by doing so we aren't saying all people in said group are bad and that's just a cheap deflection tactic to pull the focus off of the bad actors?

Are you saying it doesn't matter if over 99% of the people in a group are good people and that it makes sense to highlight the bad people whenever and wherever we might find these bad people?

Because if you're saying this I more than 99% agree, I 100% agree.
Absolutely, you fucking potato... that's the polar opposite of how I'd word it, but the previous is what I've been saying the entire time.

Did I say there weren't good cops out there who actually care about the community? No.
Did I say that every single person amongst the protesters were blameless? No.
Did I say we should abolish all police, everywhere? No.
Did I suggest that one common denominator of the movement when it began was the idea that there needs to be -- at the very least -- more accountability? Yes.

I'm glad we agree.

[Tgo01]

Absolutely, you fucking potato... that's the polar opposite of how I'd word it, but that's what I've been saying the entire time.

Did I say there weren't good cops out there who actually care about the community? No.
Did I say that every single person amongst the protesters were blameless? No.
Did I say we should abolish all police, everywhere? No.
Did I suggest that one common denominator of the movement when it began was the idea that there needs to be -- at the very least -- more accountability? Yes.

I'm glad we agree.

Okay so going forward whenever I call out the violent rioters you're going to stop saying "But not all!" or "But the police!" or "Look at these peaceful protesters!"

That was easy.

Speaking of rioters, last night they put a police officer's hat on a severed pig head and placed the pig head on top of an American flag and set both on fire, which can be seen as a direct threat to police officers.

https://thepostmillennial.com/content/images/size/w2000/2020/07/Pig-s-head.jpg

Bad people. Bad bad bad people. Peaceful protesters did not do this.

[The Ref]

https://i.imgur.com/43eOIIL.gif

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l2Je9pVmYSzg2Lp4Y/giphy.gif

[drauz]

Okay so going forward whenever I call out the violent rioters you're going to stop saying "But not all!" or "But the police!" or "Look at these peaceful protesters!"

That was easy.

Speaking of rioters, last night they put a police officer's hat on a severed pig head and placed the pig head on top of an American flag and set both on fire, which can be seen as a direct threat to police officers.

https://thepostmillennial.com/content/images/size/w2000/2020/07/Pig-s-head.jpg

Bad people. Bad bad bad people. Peaceful protesters did not do this.

I'm honestly surprised you didn't make excuses for why that police officer killed George Floyd.

[FlayedAngel]

Wait a minute!!!

Are you saying it's dumb to excuse the behavior of a few bad apples simply because over 99% of the people in said group are good people? Are you also suggesting we should want to hold the bad apples accountable and by doing so we aren't saying all people in said group are bad and that's just a cheap deflection tactic to pull the focus off of the bad actors?

Are you saying it doesn't matter if over 99% of the people in a group are good people and that it makes sense to highlight the bad people whenever and wherever we might find these bad people?

Because if you're saying this I more than 99% agree, I 100% agree.

Absolutely, you fucking potato... that's the polar opposite of how I'd word it, but that's what I've been saying the entire time.

Did I say there weren't good cops out there who actually care about the community? No.
Did I say that every single person amongst the protesters were blameless? No.
Did I say we should abolish all police, everywhere? No.
Did I suggest that one common denominator of the movement when it began was the idea that there needs to be -- at the very least -- more accountability? Yes.

I'm glad we agree.

Let me reiterate this again, for clarity:

I'm saying that monolithic organizations like law enforcement aren't comparable to a loose coalition of protesters, because there's vastly more authority behind law enforcement than said loose coalition; if a police officer detains someone, violently or otherwise, then they do so with the full weight of that institution behind them. They're also far less susceptible to infiltration and internal sabotage, incitement to sedition (valid or otherwise), and the like. When the people feel that injustices are being committed upon them by those in authority, protest -- peaceful or otherwise -- is their only recourse. The law is not an option when the law is an issue.

Both side should be held accountable, but there's also the matter of how that accountability is treated in terms of the weight behind those in a position of authority, in addition to other extenuating factors.

A small contingent of "protesters" does not fairly nor accurately represent the larger movement due to less internal cohesion, and are often rightly condemned by those inside the movement when they step out of line; those in authority, however, do represent the uniform they wear at all times. When there is undeniable evidence of repeated police brutality, it generates a call to hold those who committed these horrific acts responsible, in order to preserve the virtue represented by that badge -- otherwise, what it represents eventually becomes not only meaningless, but a symbol of tyranny.

[Tgo01]

I'm honestly surprised you didn't make excuses for why that police officer killed George Floyd.

Why would I do that? Cage the hate!

[Tgo01]

I'm saying that monolithic organizations like law enforcement aren't comparable to a loose coalition of protesters

And this is why you're Triple D.

[FlayedAngel]

Okay so going forward whenever I call out the violent rioters you're going to stop saying "But not all!" or "But the police!" or "Look at these peaceful protesters!"

That was easy.
If you stop holding them up in obvious and constant inference that all protesters are violent rioters, then sure.

You're right... that was easy.



Speaking of rioters, last night they put a police officer's hat on a severed pig head and placed the pig head on top of an American flag and set both on fire, which can be seen as a direct threat to police officers.

Bad people. Bad bad bad people. Peaceful protesters did not do this.
No shit -- bad, bad, bad people also teargassed and beat down large groups of non-violent protesters (as differentiated from violent or those inciting violence) without provocation, repeatedly.

Both are escalation tactics, not de-escalation tactics -- the difference is that one was committed en masse as per (presumably) authorized instruction, while the other was likely committed by a fringe minority.



KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) (http://https://www.kctv5.com/news/local_news/picture-surfaces-of-pigs-head-that-was-thrown-at-police/article_44b527ae-a760-11ea-bcf4-8fa9ba6ab48a.html) -- All of the protests have been a strain on police. Most have been stoic on the front lines, but some are opening up about the strain.

They’ve been hit with frozen water bottles, rocks, and even pig heads.

Officers have been screamed at on the front lines for days and it’s something the FOP has addressed with KCTV5, saying that obviously this kind of strain and stress affects you.

And, this will need to be addressed.

Yes, I can't imagine how the constant threat of harassment or murder because of a certain color would be stressful for anyone.



I'm saying that monolithic organizations like law enforcement aren't comparable to a loose coalition of protesters

And this is why you're Triple D.
According to who... you? We already covered this.

I stated that law enforcement is not comparable to a coalition of protesters -- one has the weight of the law behind them and one does not, feel free to demonstrate where I'm wrong.

[Tgo01]

Okay so going forward whenever I call out the violent rioters you're going to stop saying "But not all!" or "But the police!" or "Look at these peaceful protesters!"


No shit -- bad, bad, bad people also teargassed and beat down large groups of non-violent protesters (as differentiated from violent or those inciting violence) without provocation, repeatedly

Well that didn't last long.

[FlayedAngel]

Well that didn't last long.

If you stop holding them up in obvious and constant inference that all protesters are violent rioters, then sure.
Wait, are you suggesting that you're actually going to stop doing this?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/247103207a16970eea00be9722f79c44/tumblr_inline_mkjga5xXJR1qz4rgp.gif

[FlayedAngel]

I'm honestly surprised you didn't make excuses for why that police officer killed George Floyd.
I mean... he's done all but that.

The overwhelming majority of his posts in this thread have been pointing to anti-protest propaganda.


I have watched videos and seen pictures coming out of Portland on an almost nightly basis with Antifa and other goons setting shit on fire, attacking the police, trying to take over parts of the city like they did in Seattle, attacking the federal courthouse, and them attacking the police precinct.

I understand these rioters are on the left so you have a knee jerk reaction to downplay the violence, but come on, man. The videos, pictures, and arrest reports are out there, it just takes the mental fortitude to want to see the facts and reality to go out and find them.

[Tgo01]

I mean... he's done all but that.

You guys really want to make a monster out of me because I didn't take the cop's side in the George Floyd killing.

You guys need a new hobby. Maybe a MUD can occupy some of your time.

[FlayedAngel]

You guys really want to make a monster out of me because I didn't take the cop's side in the George Floyd killing.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/56/35/1a/56351a69c6ae41508af0569452a85304.gif



You guys need a new hobby. Maybe a MUD can occupy some of your time.
I have heard of this "Gems-stone" game.... are the graphics good?

[FlayedAngel]

https://opb-opb-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/HAU938PxHck0r955jRYkb4OiHA0=/767x0/smart/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/opb/X2GN23YG3FFKZJYCTSX2KJAB24.JPG

07/31 -- Portland Protesters Gather Peacefully Thursday as Federal Officers Depart. (https://www.opb.org/article/2020/07/31/portland-protesters-gather-peacefully-thursday-as-federal-officers-depart)

[Ashlander]

I have heard of this "Gems-stone" game.... are the graphics good?

I've heard they're so good people have literally dropped thousands on the game.

[Parkbandit]

I'm honestly surprised you didn't make excuses for why that police officer killed George Floyd.

I don't think anyone made any excuses for the police officer that killed George Floyd. It was quickly rebuked by everyone with a brain and he was quickly charged.

[Candor]

I've heard they're so good people have literally dropped thousands on the game.

Just the monthly fees I have paid since the game started launching from play.net add up to several thousand dollars. Add to that the pay events I have attended over the years, the fees before play.net, and the money I paid when GS III playtime was charged by the hour and...wow I don't even want to add it all up.

When GS III was charged by the hour, I had a gaming budget. This money was split between GS III and a game called Island of Kesmai (IoK) on Compuserve. IoK had ASCII graphics (a big deal for Internet gaming at the time), but eventually the richness of GS III won out for me.

[Parkbandit]

Just the monthly fees I have paid since the game started launching from play.net add up to several thousand dollars. Add to that the pay events I have attended over the years, the fees before play.net, and the money I paid when GS III playtime was charged by the hour and...wow I don't even want to add it all up.

When GS III was charged by the hour, I had a gaming budget. This money was split between GS III and a game called Island of Kesmai (IoK) on Compuserve. IoK had ASCII graphics (a big deal for Internet gaming at the time), but eventually the richness of GS III won out for me.

Thank you for the update.

[FlayedAngel]

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[Bhaalizmo]

There have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protest since dump's goons left Portland.

Yay

[Tgo01]

There have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protest since dump's goons left Portland.

Yay

So what you're saying is up until 3 days ago the protests weren't peaceful?

You really should see about keeping that foot of yours out of your mouth.

[Bhaalizmo]

So what you're saying is up until 3 days ago the protests weren't peaceful?

You really should see about keeping that foot of yours out of your mouth.

Nope. Good try though, you should really submit some of your fiction for publication.

[Tgo01]

Nope. Good try though, you should really submit some of your fiction for publication.

So why did you qualify your statement as 3 nights of peaceful protests since the feds left? They have always been peaceful right?

You're really bad at this, Bhaalizmo. Might want to just stick to white knighting for women you feel aren't capable of speaking for themselves.

[Solkern]

So why did you qualify your statement as 3 nights of peaceful protests since the feds left? They have always been peaceful right?

You're really bad at this, Bhaalizmo. Might want to just stick to white knighting for women you feel aren't capable of speaking for themselves.

No, you’re really bad at this if you can’t understand his meaning.

[FlayedAngel]

You're really bad at this, Bhaalizmo. Might want to just stick to white knighting for women you feel aren't capable of speaking for themselves.
Maybe you should stick to deflecting and cherry-picking.

[Tgo01]

Maybe you should stick to deflecting and cherry-picking.

Okay, Triple D.

[FlayedAngel]

So what you're saying is up until 3 days ago the protests weren't peaceful?
That's the worst semantic argument I've heard yet.

You're conflating peaceful protests with peaceful protesters, so yes... as far as I know, there have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protests and peaceful protesters.

[FlayedAngel]

Okay, Triple D.
Sure thing... racist.

[Bhaalizmo]

So why did you qualify your statement as 3 nights of peaceful protests since the feds left? They have always been peaceful right?

You're really bad at this, Bhaalizmo. Might want to just stick to white knighting for women you feel aren't capable of speaking for themselves.

You're a rather shitty human. It gets more obvious by the day.

[Tgo01]

That's the worst semantic argument I've heard yet.

You're conflating peaceful protests with peaceful protesters, so yes... as far as I know, there have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protests and peaceful protesters.

No you're just adding more context because Bhaalizmo had a Freudian slip.


There have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protest since dump's goons left Portland.

It's okay, Bhaalizmo, it happens.

[Tgo01]

You're a rather shitty human. It gets more obvious by the day.

At least I don't defend violent people on a daily basis by insisting they are peaceful, then let slip that they weren't so peaceful all along, only to engage in the worst instance of gaslighting I have ever seen to cover up the fact that I just fucked up and said the quiet part out loud.

But you do you, Bhaalizmo. You're doing great, pal!

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[FlayedAngel]

No you're just adding more context because Bhaalizmo had a Freudian slip.
You sure do make a lot of presumptuous statements.

Let me state something for future reference: I don't have much of a problem with a majority of the conservatives on this forum. I understand that in tiny mutual spaces such as this one, giving people a little leniency and treating one other with some modicum of mutual respect (even if it's done flippantly) is important... but that has to work both ways.

I may not agree with said conservatives on most political matters, but I can take valid criticism of my opinions or statements when such is justly applied. Any discussion that I pursue or take part in serves the goal of seeing beyond my own perspective, so as not to limit it to people who share only my views; sometimes, even people I disagree with make well-argued and valid points worth considering, and I think many here realize that as well. Dissecting the logic of something or calling into question the veracity of a statement that seems questionable is sometimes beneficial to conversation, but constantly nit-picking over stupid shit and being intellectually dishonest are little more than misplaced attempts at validation.

I don't care if you agree with me or not, but if you initiate -- or even come at -- every single conversation with "Dumb fucking Dems, look how stupid they are" or "Hur hur, Libtards are destroying our country" while whining about being called names, then you clearly have no actual interest in conversing with people... and you can fuck right off.

[~Rocktar~]

There have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protest since dump's goons left Portland.

Yay

Ummmm, no. Would you like to make up more lies, these are old.


No End: 150 Shots Fired, High-Powered Lasers Deployed By Portland Protesters As Feds Begin Withdrawal
By Emily Zanotti
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Aug 2, 2020 DailyWire.com
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PORTLAND, OR - AUGUST 2: A federal officer guards the interior of the Edith Green - Wendell Wyatt Federal Building early in the morning on August 2, 2020 in Portland, Oregon. Federal officers began a phased withdrawal from the city on Thursday while leaving behind personnel inside the two downtown federal buildings. (Photo by Nathan Howard/Getty Images)
Photo by Nathan Howard/Getty Images
Protesters in Portland, Oregon, continued to challenge law enforcement officials over the weekend, even though the Department of Homeland Security has begun drawing down its presence in the city.

“More than 150 rounds were fired and one woman was shot in Portland on Friday night while protesters on Saturday – some of whom appeared to impersonate press – threw glass bottles and shined lasers at city police officers sent to quell the nighttime unrest witnessed for more than two months straight,” Fox News reported.

Some members of the media seemed to tun out of the violence in Portland after DHS’s Wednesday decision to turn over the responsibility of protecting Portland’s federal courthouse to Oregon State Police and the Portland Police Department, insisting that tensions had calmed to the point where a law enforcement presence was no longer required.

The New York Times’ Nicholas Kristof claimed, Sunday that “peace” had broken out.

Saturday night, though, Portland Police’s blotter notes that demonstrators “shined bright lights at Portland police officers standing outside the building, directed lasers at the officers, and eventually began throwing glass bottles at them.”

Clashes also appeared to break out between “anti-fascist” rioters, intent on destabilizing the situation, and Black Lives Matter protesters, who chastised the black-clad demonstrators and, in some cases, drove them out of larger, peaceful protests. . .


https://www.dailywire.com/news/no-end-150-shots-fired-high-powered-lasers-deployed-by-portland-protesters-as-feds-begin-withdrawl

[FlayedAngel]

At least I don't defend violent people on a daily basis by insisting they are peaceful, then let slip that they weren't so peaceful all along, only to engage in the worst instance of gaslighting I have ever seen
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...to cover up the fact that I just fucked up and said the quiet part out loud.

Well... you got four honest words in, that's a start.

[Tgo01]

Portland records deadliest month in 30 years: report (https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-records-deadliest-month-30-years-report)


At least 15 people were killed in Portland during the month of July, which was the highest number of deadly shootings or stabbings in a single month since the 1980s, according to authorities.

So peaceful! I can't wait to hear Bhaalizmo's or FlayedAngel's insight on how this is Trump's fault!

[Methais]

Let me reiterate this again, for clarity:

I'm saying that monolithic organizations like law enforcement aren't comparable to a loose coalition of protesters, because there's vastly more authority behind law enforcement than said loose coalition; if a police officer detains someone, violently or otherwise, then they do so with the full weight of that institution behind them. They're also far less susceptible to infiltration and internal sabotage, incitement to sedition (valid or otherwise), and the like. When the people feel that injustices are being committed upon them by those in authority, protest -- peaceful or otherwise -- is their only recourse. The law is not an option when the law is an issue.

Both side should be held accountable, but there's also the matter of how that accountability is treated in terms of the weight behind those in a position of authority, in addition to other extenuating factors.

A small contingent of "protesters" does not fairly nor accurately represent the larger movement due to less internal cohesion, and are often rightly condemned by those inside the movement when they step out of line; those in authority, however, do represent the uniform they wear at all times. When there is undeniable evidence of repeated police brutality, it generates a call to hold those who committed these horrific acts responsible, in order to preserve the virtue represented by that badge -- otherwise, what it represents eventually becomes not only meaningless, but a symbol of tyranny.

I'd say the biggest difference right now is we have a coalition of rioters who are backed by local politicians ordering police to stand down and let said rioters destroy the city, at least until said local politicians are affected by it as well. Not every city, but enough of them.

Why aren't those people being held accountable?

[Tgo01]

Portland’s Wall of Moms crumbles amid online allegations by former partner, Don’t Shoot PDX (https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/portlands-wall-of-moms-crumbles-amid-online-allegations-by-former-partner-dont-shoot-pdx.html)

Too funny. The so called "Wall of Moms", which members claimed was created to protect BLM protesters, has been accused of anti-blackness by groups created by black people. Furthermore these groups allege that the "Wall of Moms" were just using BLM to further an agenda unrelated to BLM.

Gee where have we heard this one before? Oh right, with Antifa anarchists and rioters, a group composed of 99% white people, using the BLM movement to further their agenda.

Keep supporting racist groups that black people recognize as racist groups, you far leftists.

[drauz]

So why did you qualify your statement as 3 nights of peaceful protests since the feds left? They have always been peaceful right?

You're really bad at this, Bhaalizmo. Might want to just stick to white knighting for women you feel aren't capable of speaking for themselves.

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[Tgo01]

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"South Park" is on top of things as per usual.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm surprised South Park hasn't been hit by cancel culture yet.

[Tgo01]

I'm surprised South Park hasn't been hit by cancel culture yet.

They did the smart thing and refused to bow down years ago.

[FlayedAngel]

Portland records deadliest month in 30 years: report (https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-records-deadliest-month-30-years-report)
So peaceful! I can't wait to hear Bhaalizmo's or FlayedAngel's insight on how this is Trump's fault!
Thanks again, Fox News!! The article about the "150 round shooting (https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-protests-150-round-shooting-press-federal-pullout)" mentioned has already been under fire (pun intended) for falsely connecting it to the protests, even though the incident occurred on the other side of town (100 blocks east) and wasn't related -- again, that's just one example among many of how this is being misrepresented... but sure, keep buying into the bullshit without question.

[FlayedAngel]

"South Park" is on top of things as per usual.
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[FlayedAngel]

Portland’s Wall of Moms crumbles amid online allegations by former partner, Don’t Shoot PDX (https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/portlands-wall-of-moms-crumbles-amid-online-allegations-by-former-partner-dont-shoot-pdx.html)

Too funny. The so called "Wall of Moms", which members claimed was created to protect BLM protesters, has been accused of anti-blackness by groups created by black people. Furthermore these groups allege that the "Wall of Moms" were just using BLM to further an agenda unrelated to BLM.
Yup, heard about that -- such was largely the responsibility of one person (Bev Barnum, the founder) who did some shady shit, and is actually a good example of internal accountability in action. Here's hoping they reorganize and regroup with Don't Shoot PDX under Black leadership, and move on.



Gee where have we heard this one before? Oh right, with Antifa anarchists and rioters, a group composed of 99% white people, using the BLM movement to further their agenda.

Keep supporting racist groups that black people recognize as racist groups, you far leftists.
I know you love to generalize and shit on things... we get it. You forgot to mention Democrats explicitly, though.

[Tgo01]

I know you love to generalize and shit on things... we get it. You forgot to mention Democrats explicitly, though.

Naww, Antifa isn't really so much a Democrat thing, Democrats just cover for them.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Is it not factual that it's been the deadliest month in Portland in the last 30 years? Not sure what that has to do with Fox News (in bold plus two exclamation points).

Not that it's surprising. I'd expect a growth in most metrics relative to population over a long period of time.

[FlayedAngel]

Is it not factual that it's been the deadliest month in Portland in the last 30 years? Not sure what that has to do with Fox News (in bold plus two exclamation points).
Fox News has a reputation for yellow journalism, and honestly, examining their coverage of Portland during this (from what I've seen) has very much not dissuaded me of that opinion -- as someone who lives here, it's annoying.



Not that it's surprising. I'd expect a growth in most metrics relative to population over a long period of time.
I would as well, and I'm honestly not surprised given current events.

[Methais]

I'm surprised South Park hasn't been hit by cancel culture yet.

They're immune because they give zero fucks.

[Stolis]

They're immune because they give zero fucks.

Pretty much this. You make a mountain out of a mole hill, they just laugh and make you look even more foolish in the next episode.

[Bhaalizmo]

Naww, Antifa isn't really so much a Democrat thing, Democrats just cover for them.

Antifa. Nobody in Portland is saying Antifa, why must you?

[Tgo01]

Antifa. Nobody in Portland is saying Antifa, why must you?

Oh yeah, Antifa doesn't exist.

[leifastagsweed]

Hey, PB and Methais, I apologize profusely for wandering into your sandbox. I'm not following the threads and it's totally your safe space again. Stop the rapid neg rep cycling and focus on harrassing those here and who invite it (?). Your hidden man rage attacks are so 2013.

FLUFFY BUNNIES AND SUNSHINE!

[Bhaalizmo]

Hey, PB and Methais, I apologize profusely for wandering into your sandbox. I'm not following the threads and it's totally your safe space again. Stop the rapid neg rep cycling and focus on harrassing those here and who invite it (?). Your hidden man rage attacks are so 2013.

FLUFFY BUNNIES AND SUNSHINE!

Aww, are they being 2x as abusive in their rep commentary as they are here in Politics? Don't worry, they'll get tired of the game sooner or later.

[leifastagsweed]

Aww, are they being 2x as abusive in their rep commentary as they are here in Politics? Don't worry, they'll get tired of the game sooner or later.

I've posted screenshots before and their usual fan club went silent. The words are not fit to say to another human. I suppose I could again, but it's really just easier to not engage and all I ask is that they disengage.

[Bhaalizmo]

I've posted screenshots before and their usual fan club went silent. The words are not fit to say to another human. I suppose I could again, but it's really just easier to not engage and all I ask is that they disengage.

I considered doing the same thing, but honestly I feel like it would just encourage them. They do tend to like to go in harder on the rep comment than they do publicly on a thread though, and considering how much more abusive they are to women than they are to men in this corner of the forum, I understand your sentiment.

[drauz]

I considered doing the same thing, but honestly I feel like it would just encourage them. They do tend to like to go in harder on the rep comment than they do publicly on a thread though, and considering how much more abusive they are to women than they are to men in this corner of the forum, I understand your sentiment.

To be fair any slight against her she attributes to some crap about man vs. woman. If you disagree with her its because shes a woman, at least thats what she thinks.

[Parkbandit]

Hey, PB and Methais, I apologize profusely for wandering into your sandbox. I'm not following the threads and it's totally your safe space again. Stop the rapid neg rep cycling and focus on harrassing those here and who invite it (?). Your hidden man rage attacks are so 2013.

FLUFFY BUNNIES AND SUNSHINE!

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[Parkbandit]

I considered doing the same thing, but honestly I feel like it would just encourage them. They do tend to like to go in harder on the rep comment than they do publicly on a thread though, and considering how much more abusive they are to women than they are to men in this corner of the forum, I understand your sentiment.

If only we could follow Bhaalismo's example of posting degrading pics of women for over 9 years.. and proclaim ourselves the champion of woman's virtues like him...

And I'm far more abusive to you than almost anyone... wait.... are you saying what I think you are saying???

I just thought you were a raging fag..

[Bhaalizmo]

If only we could follow Bhaalismo's example of posting degrading pics of women for over 9 years.. and proclaim ourselves the champion of woman's virtues like him...

And I'm far more abusive to you than almost anyone... wait.... are you saying what I think you are saying???

I just thought you were a raging fag..

Pictures of women who model for a living are not degrading, you mouth breathing incel.

You think about gay stuff alot. Check your posts. Just sayin.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1291616742863564800?s=20

Peaceful protesters in Portland are now harassing people in their homes, vandalizing their property, trying to blind them with lasers, and harassing them at late hours of the night, because you know they are a bunch of cowards.

How did you get to be so useless, Bhaalizmo, where you call shit like this "peaceful"? In what world is this peaceful? Why are you such a sorry sack of shit? Do you have anything besides gay slurs to share with the class?

[Bhaalizmo]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1291616742863564800?s=20

Peaceful protesters in Portland are now harassing people in their homes, vandalizing their property, trying to blind them with lasers, and harassing them at late hours of the night, because you know they are a bunch of cowards.

The peaceful protesters of Portland and elsewhere, are not the people you describe above. Finding examples of non peaceful protest does not invalidate or negate the massive largely peaceful protests of Portland. I wouldn't expect that to sink in because you enjoy painting whole groups of people with a single brush in typical racist manner.


How did you get to be so useless, Bhaalizmo, where you call shit like this "peaceful"? In what world is this peaceful? Why are you such a sorry sack of shit? Do you have anything besides gay slurs to share with the class?

See above. When you stop saying all ____ people are ____ you'll stop being a racist idiot. You attempt to turn the words peaceful protesters against me, but it only works because you drop the descriptor in front of it.

When did you become so dumb, and so racist? were you always that way?

Have you ever been able to conceive that a group of people may be stereotyped as a thing, that there will always be exceptions to that rule?

Do you just prefer the black and white of saying all those people are ___?

You're wrong. Just dead wrong. Die in a fire.

[Tgo01]

The peaceful protesters of Portland and elsewhere, are not the people you describe above. Finding examples of non peaceful protest does not invalidate or negate the massive largely peaceful protests of Portland. I wouldn't expect that to sink in because you enjoy painting whole groups of people with a single brush in typical racist manner.

So when you said they've been peaceful since the feds left you specifically meant, what, one group of people? Do you even hear how dumb you sound right about now?

"All of the peaceful protesters have been peaceful since the feds left!"

You actually think you sound smart don't you? This is some second grader thinking right here.

Keep on deflecting and downplaying while the violent rioters in Portland are now attacking people minding their own business in their homes.

[Bhaalizmo]

There have been 3 straight nights of peaceful protest since dump's goons left Portland.

See how that works, you just scroll back in the thread and you can read what was actually said instead of the BS you make up.


So when you said they've been peaceful since the feds left you specifically meant, what, one group of people? Do you even hear how dumb you sound right about now?

"All of the peaceful protesters have been peaceful since the feds left!"

You actually think you sound smart don't you? This is some second grader thinking right here.

Keep on deflecting and downplaying while the violent rioters in Portland are now attacking people minding their own business in their homes.

Notice how the bolded part that you put in double quotes as if I said it, is not in fact what I said? Seriously man, you're like a non-stop fiction writer.

[Methais]

Hey, PB and Methais, I apologize profusely for wandering into your sandbox. I'm not following the threads and it's totally your safe space again. Stop the rapid neg rep cycling and focus on harrassing those here and who invite it (?). Your hidden man rage attacks are so 2013.

FLUFFY BUNNIES AND SUNSHINE!

https://media1.giphy.com/media/81Ja1qE3lfmG4/giphy.gif

I know this will be very disappointing to you, but I forgot you existed (again) since last time you were making posts begging for my attention, but nice try.

Thanks for the reminder though. I'll be sure to neg rep you next time it cycles around again since you're wanting some attention. Which should be tomorrow, since I haven't left you rep in at least a week or 2, and I've cycled through some other idiots multiple times since then. But not you, because again, you're an extremely forgettable person, despite your entertaining mental instability. So forgettable that there's a good chance I'll forget to rep you tomorrow unless you're actively attention whoring some more.

You really should get that mental illness checked into though.

Or just keep doing you and getting laughed at for being a psychopath. That would be the more entertaining option for me anyway.

Retard.

I hope one day you'll at least realize what a shameless attention whore you are if nothing else.

[Methais]

I've posted screenshots before and their usual fan club went silent. The words are not fit to say to another human. I suppose I could again, but it's really just easier to not engage and all I ask is that they disengage.

Post it again. I don't say anything to you in rep that I don't say to you in an actual post, despite your mentally ill delusions and ridiculous addiction to attention whoring.

[Methais]

I considered doing the same thing, but honestly I feel like it would just encourage them. They do tend to like to go in harder on the rep comment than they do publicly on a thread though, and considering how much more abusive they are to women than they are to men in this corner of the forum, I understand your sentiment.

The rep you get from me is me returning the rep you gave me, with the same "Nah" that you leave in mine. I'm not surprised that you haven't figured that out yet though, because you're an idiot.

I'm guessing still haven't realized that rep isn't anonymous anymore either. Good job.

Stop being such a try hard.

[Ashlander]

The rep you get from me is me returning the rep you gave me, with the same "Nah" that you leave in mine. I'm not surprised that you haven't figured that out yet though, because you're an idiot.

I'm guessing still haven't realized that rep isn't anonymous anymore either. Good job.

Stop being such a try hard.

Aw and here I thought I was the only one he was sending those to.

[Tgo01]

Aw and here I thought I was the only one he was sending those to.

Me too. I thought I was special :(

[Methais]

Ballsackzmo isn't very smart. He doesn't understand that rep isn't anonymous.

He's just a big ball of unhinged anger and fail.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1291827855576498176?s=20

Peaceful protesters in Portland scream in an old woman's face, harass her, and throw paint on her.

I especially love the harpy towards the end, "Put your mask on, bitch!" Yes because this old woman standing there far away from everyone else is the problem, it's not the rioters getting right in her face to yell and scream at her. What a bunch of useless cretins.

These are the people Bhaalizmo and FlayedAngel can't defend hard enough.

I hope one of them tries to pin the blame on this on the police somehow.

"She was probably an informant! She had it coming!!!"

[Parkbandit]

Aw and here I thought I was the only one he was sending those to.

Hey, me too!

To be honest, his current meltdown has been entertaining.

[Parkbandit]

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1291827855576498176?s=20

Peaceful protesters in Portland scream in an old woman's face, harass her, and throw paint on her.

I especially love the harpy towards the end, "Put your mask on, bitch!" Yes because this old woman standing there far away from everyone else is the problem, it's not the rioters getting right in her face to yell and scream at her. What a bunch of useless cretins.

These are the people Bhaalizmo and FlayedAngel can't defend hard enough.

I hope one of them tries to pin the blame on this on the police somehow.

"She was probably an informant! She had it coming!!!"

"OUR BLACK FRIENDS ARE DYING!"

How did I know that dumb cunt was a white Karen...

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1291827855576498176?s=20

Peaceful protesters in Portland scream in an old woman's face, harass her, and throw paint on her.

I especially love the harpy towards the end, "Put your mask on, bitch!" Yes because this old woman standing there far away from everyone else is the problem, it's not the rioters getting right in her face to yell and scream at her. What a bunch of useless cretins.

These are the people Bhaalizmo and FlayedAngel can't defend hard enough.

I hope one of them tries to pin the blame on this on the police somehow.

"She was probably an informant! She had it coming!!!"

The woman covered in paint being harried by the mob is the bravest person in that video.

Just let Portland burn to the ground people, I think we are all on the same page here. Pull out LEOs and let it burn.

[Ashlander]

The woman covered in paint being harried by the mob is the bravest person in that video.

Just let Portland burn to the ground people, I think we are all on the same page here. Pull out LEOs and let it burn.

Clearly if the LEOs pull out there will be nothing left for them to protest and utopia will be achieved, right?

[FlayedAngel]

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1291827855576498176?s=20

Peaceful protesters in Portland scream in an old woman's face, harass her, and throw paint on her.

I especially love the harpy towards the end, "Put your mask on, bitch!" Yes because this old woman standing there far away from everyone else is the problem, it's not the rioters getting right in her face to yell and scream at her. What a bunch of useless cretins.

These are the people Bhaalizmo and FlayedAngel can't defend hard enough.

I hope one of them tries to pin the blame on this on the police somehow.

"She was probably an informant! She had it coming!!!"
Boy, that didn't take long.

The people in that video are being total assholes; shockingly, I don't disagree with you (or anyone else) on that basic premise... because it's actually evident.

I've pointed out offshoots of varying degrees of (sometimes harmfully) misguided effort or rank opportunism myself, and I've never stated that the protesters are collectively some kind of "hive-mind" or in any way faultless on an individual level; you're the one that keeps insisting upon the same clearly fallacious arguments in a vain -- and quite frankly, seemingly compulsive -- attempt to justify these kinda shitty generalizations.

You do a lot for the community at large, and I respect that... given that you otherwise seem pretty genuinely civic-minded, it baffles me why you keep wasting your time on such egregious arguments.

[Tgo01]

it baffles me why you keep wasting your time on such egregious arguments.

You mean like constantly saying things like "The peaceful protesters are peaceful"?

This is like your counter argument every time I point out rioters being rioters: "but this group is peaceful" or "but the cops started it!"

Aren't we supposed to call out the bad actors? Aren't we supposed to want the peaceful protesters to call out the rioters? You know how we want police officers to call out the police officers? How do we solve anything by saying "Yeah but these people are good!"

[FlayedAngel]

Clearly if the LEOs pull out there will be nothing left for them to protest and utopia will be achieved, right?
The primary point of protests is to raise as much awareness as possible about a given cause, especially an overlooked or denigrated one; given that non-violent protests are rarely covered as much, the feds pulling out doesn't actually help... even though I imagine it would be preferable.

It's the Catch-22 of protesting.

[FlayedAngel]

You mean like constantly saying things like "The peaceful protesters are peaceful"?

This is like your counter argument every time I point out rioters being rioters: "but this group is peaceful" or "but the cops started it!"

Aren't we supposed to call out the bad actors? Aren't we supposed to want the peaceful protesters to call out the rioters? You know how we want police officers to call out the police officers? How do we solve anything by saying "Yeah but these people are good!"
There's a big difference between pointing out the bad actors, and using those same individuals as perceived leverage to condemn an aggregate as a whole through gross generalization... which is what you do often.

[Tgo01]

There's a big difference between pointing out the bad actors, and using those same individuals as perceived leverage to condemn an aggregate as a whole through gross generalization... which is what you do often.

Just remember: over 99% of cops are good people who save lives so therefore it's wrong of you to point out any of the bad ones. Thank you and God bless.

[FlayedAngel]

Just remember: over 99% of cops are good people who save lives so therefore it's wrong of you to point out any of the bad ones. Thank you and God bless.
We've already had this conversation, and again... simply "flipping it around" is a pretty disingenuous comparison.

An institution like law enforcement is a collective entity that should be held to a single common standard, both by purpose and design -- cops should only have the collective authority and power of that institution behind them if they abide by its laws and standards. In the most literal sense, I don't actually believe that all cops are bastards (https://www.mic.com/p/the-story-behind-acab-the-anti-police-tag-youre-seeing-everywhere-22992554) (there are some legit good people in the force, as you illustrated earlier), but I rather doubt those percentages are accurate; the sheer number of recorded instances of abuse are indicative of potential flaws or biases in the system. "Cops" aren't directly comparable to an aggregation of protesters, as the latter can contain several disparate agendas (sometimes even in conflict) within itself, and lack any of the weight of the former's collective authority.

What the people are asking for with these protests varies wildly; it ranges from more accountability, to systemic reform, all the way to straight-up abolishment, but the common element is a widespread observation that the law -- in some debatable capacity -- has failed to hold itself to its own standards at the cost of human lives.

[FlayedAngel]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/116799222_3555181151160048_567973520986738570_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Oviwy7si9esAX9UbITw&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=e989404c24fdffb7ad15c3e814e94a8b&oe=5F53988E

All hail Death Elk, the ersatz (but way more metal) substitute for the Elk statue while it's in storage.

[Methais]

Speaking of cops who are cunts, here are some cops shooting a guy in the back for answering his door after a noise complaint over playing video games because he had a gun when he answered the door, which he was clearly complying and putting it down before getting shot 3 times in the back:

WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game (https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA)


I wonder if this is getting any coverage on TV, with the dude being white and all. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess no.

[Ashlander]

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/116799222_3555181151160048_567973520986738570_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Oviwy7si9esAX9UbITw&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=e989404c24fdffb7ad15c3e814e94a8b&oe=5F53988E

All hail Death Elk, the ersatz (but way more metal) substitute for the Elk statue while it's in storage.

That's a decepticon.

[Ashlander]

Speaking of cops who are cunts, here are some cops shooting a guy in the back for answering his door after a noise complaint over playing video games because he had a gun when he answered the door, which he was clearly complying and putting it down before getting shot 3 times in the back:

WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game (https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/watch-phoenix-cops-kill-man-after-responding-to-noise-complaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA)


I wonder if this is getting any coverage on TV, with the dude being white and all. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess no.

Fake news everyone knows whites don't get killed by police.

[Tgo01]

Even the most useless mayor in the history of the world Ted Wheeler of Portland, is recognizing that the protests are violent riots. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/portland-mayor-pleads-with-rioters-to-stop-the-violence-you-will-be-used-in-ads-nationally-to-help-donald-trump)


“Last night, 200-300 people went to East Precinct intent on violence. The purpose was to attack the East Precinct facility and the people therein,” Wheeler said, later adding, “Exits were blocked; they were barricaded shut with cars and with two-by-fours. Security cameras were disabled, and accelerants were used to set and grow fires. The attack was immediate, it was intentional, and it was planned. It was intended to cause serious injury or death, and it very well could have.”

“When you commit arson with an accelerant in an attempt to burn down a building that is occupied by people that you have intentionally trapped inside, you are not demonstrating; you are attempting to commit murder,” Wheeler said.

“This is not peaceful protest. This is not advocacy to advance reforms or transform any system,” Wheeler continued.


Wheeler said that city officials expected the attacks on city buildings, police, and residential neighborhoods to continue:

We anticipate additional planned attacks on occupied buildings over the next few days. I want to put a message out to the people of this city: if you are a nonviolent demonstrator and you don’t want to be part of intentional violence, please stay away from these areas. Our community must say that this violence is not Portland, that these actions do not reflect our values, and these crimes are distracting from reform, not advancing it. And they’re keeping our police officers from responding to historic levels of violence in our community. Right now, Portland is experiencing record gun violence and our police bureau, its leadership, its detectives, its frontline officers, its support staff need to be focused on responding to that, not on responding to arson at our own police precincts.

If Bhaalizmo had any shame he would be pretty embarrassed right now for falling for the media lies that the protests have been peaceful since the feds left. There have been violent riots going on in Portland for the past 2 months; before the feds showed up, during the feds' presence, and after the feds left. The violent riots have never stopped and you are nothing but a tool for the Democrat party because you are incapable of thinking for yourself.

Now we just need the usual dumb comment from someone stating "But we are saying the peaceful protesters are being peaceful! We aren't talking about the violent ones! And by pointing out the violent rioters you are trying to say ALL of the protesters are violent! And oh yeah it's the fault of the police anyways. And don't bother saying over 99% of police are good people who save lives because it's not a good comparison because it completely destroys the idiotic narrative I am crafting here."

[Parkbandit]

Even the most useless mayor in the history of the world Ted Wheeler of Portland, is recognizing that the protests are violent riots. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/portland-mayor-pleads-with-rioters-to-stop-the-violence-you-will-be-used-in-ads-nationally-to-help-donald-trump)

If Bhaalizmo had any shame he would be pretty embarrassed right now for falling for the media lies that the protests have been peaceful since the feds left. There have been violent riots going on in Portland for the past 2 months; before the feds showed up, during the feds' presence, and after the feds left. The violent riots have never stopped and you are nothing but a tool for the Democrat party because you are incapable of thinking for yourself.

Now we just need the usual dumb comment from someone stating "But we are saying the peaceful protesters are being peaceful! We aren't talking about the violent ones! And by pointing out the violent rioters you are trying to say ALL of the protesters are violent! And oh yeah it's the fault of the police anyways. And don't bother saying over 99% of police are good people who save lives because it's not a good comparison because it completely destroys the idiotic narrative I am crafting here."

What a racist this Ted Wheeler must be. Riot is a dog whistle for black people.

[FlayedAngel]

What a racist this Ted Wheeler must be. Riot is a dog whistle for black people.
Ted Wheeler sucks, no argument there.

[Nathala Crane]

Hey, PB and Methais, I apologize profusely for wandering into your sandbox. I'm not following the threads and it's totally your safe space again. Stop the rapid neg rep cycling and focus on harrassing those here and who invite it (?). Your hidden man rage attacks are so 2013.

FLUFFY BUNNIES AND SUNSHINE!

I wouldn't worry about it. Nobody here cares or pays attention to rep except the Far-Right Goon Squad who use it to measure e-peen.

[Parkbandit]

I wouldn't worry about it. Nobody here cares or pays attention to rep except the Far-Right Goon Squad who use it to measure e-peen.

Half of your posts in this thread are about you claiming you don't care about rep.

Are you trying to convince us.. or yourself.. that you don't care about rep this much?

[Methais]

I wouldn't worry about it. Nobody here cares or pays attention to rep except the Far-Right Goon Squad who use it to measure e-peen.

None of us at the top care about it either unless you count the entertainment value of watching people like Leifa, and also people who care so little about rep that they feel the need to remind everyone constantly that they care so little, while crying about rep they received that they didn’t like. Because they don’t care.

[Parkbandit]

Had to edit that one, eh? Few of us care about rep (I do not), besides Parkbandit and some of the circle jerk crew (You kind of lean that way a lot, but not quite.). They have alt-accounts to boost themselves back to green.

This was a Parkbandit response actually, but you commented.

Keep telling us how much you don't care about rep... after copy/pasting the rep you get and crying that this isn't fair. I like how you worded it though.. "Few of us care about rep (I do not)". LOLOL... Freud could write a novel on how broken your brain is.

Also, who's all my alt-accounts? And don't you have 2-3 of them here?

Oh wait.. they are all red. :(

[RichardCranium]

Keep telling us how much you don't care about rep... after copy/pasting the rep you get and crying that this isn't fair. I like how you worded it though.. "Few of us care about rep (I do not)". LOLOL... Freud could write a novel on how broken your brain is.

Also, who's all my alt-accounts? And don't you have 2-3 of them here?

Oh wait.. they are all red. :(

ClydeR

Inspire

MacGuyver

LolBrielus

[~Rocktar~]

ClydeR

Inspire

MacGuyver

LolBrielus

You think those are all PB?

[Jeril]

You think those are all PB?

Depends, do any of them have a degree in tub installation?

[Neveragain]

Looks like we may need a new thread for Chicago. Sounds like protesters and police have exchanged fire, looks like they are shutting down access to downtown Chicago.


All CTA Bus & Train Service Downtown is shut down. All bridges over the Chicago River are up to prevent looters from moving. Dump trucks are now blocking exits off of expressway to downtown streets. Heavy police presence blocking many streets. Police exchanged Gun fire near Lake St & Michigan with looters.

**Eastbound 80/94 near state line / Burnham Ave is going to be down to minimal lanes for the double fatal police chase.

[RichardCranium]

You think those are all PB?

I forgot HarmNone.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Looks like we may need a new thread for Chicago. Sounds like protesters and police have exchanged fire, looks like they are shutting down access to downtown Chicago.

Did someone attack Jussie again?

[Ashlander]

Did someone attack Jussie again?

Besides Jussie?

[Methais]

Had to edit that one, eh? Few of us care about rep (I do not), besides Parkbandit and some of the circle jerk crew (You kind of lean that way a lot, but not quite.). They have alt-accounts to boost themselves back to green.

This was a Parkbandit response actually, but you commented.

OH NOES AN EDIT!!!!!!

Please tell me what specifically you think I edited in/out.

This should be good. Hurry the fuck up loser.

[Methais]

Had to edit that one, eh? Few of us care about rep (I do not), besides Parkbandit and some of the circle jerk crew (You kind of lean that way a lot, but not quite.). They have alt-accounts to boost themselves back to green.

This was a Parkbandit response actually, but you commented.

https://i.imgur.com/MsBRG8B.png


It's time for you to get big mad again.

[Methais]

You think those are all PB?

https://i.imgur.com/BAVKjDc.png

[Tgo01]

Looks like we may need a new thread for Chicago. Sounds like protesters and police have exchanged fire, looks like they are shutting down access to downtown Chicago.

Peaceful looters.

[Tgo01]

I didn't know where to put this image because it fits so many topics so here is as good as any:

https://i.redd.it/2p9yq4qms6g51.png

[Candor]

Looks like we may need a new thread for Chicago. Sounds like protesters and police have exchanged fire, looks like they are shutting down access to downtown Chicago.

It is way overdue for Federal troops to respond to violent protestors with overwhelming force. Once violent protestors understand that violence will result in their arrests or being shot, the violence issue will diminish significantly.

[Methais]

Peaceful looters.

People are also yelling I CAN'T BREATHE while running into stores to go loot and destroy.

I'm too lazy to find it right now, but I doubt it's hard to find.

I decided to be less lazy. Scroll down to the 6:50 update.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/08/10/live-updates-looting-unrest-overnight-across-downtown-chicago-the-loop-shut-down/

[Tgo01]

People are also yelling I CAN'T BREATHE while running into stores to go loot and destroy.

I'm too lazy to find it right now, but I doubt it's hard to find.

I decided to be less lazy. Scroll down to the 6:50 update.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/08/10/live-updates-looting-unrest-overnight-across-downtown-chicago-the-loop-shut-down/

What a mess. Another Democrat shit hole burning to the ground because Democrats would rather people suffer than admit Trump is right about something.

[Solkern]

I decided to be less lazy. Scroll down to the 6:50 update.


I’m surprised!! :D

[drauz]

It is way overdue for Federal troops to respond to violent protestors with overwhelming force. Once violent protestors understand that violence will result in their arrests or being shot, the violence issue will diminish significantly.

Holy fuck that's just a terrible idea. Do you even understand what you're asking for?

[Tgo01]

Holy fuck that's just a terrible idea. Do you even understand what you're asking for?

Yeah enforcing the law in Chicago. That is pretty crazy.

[Taernath]

Holy fuck that's just a terrible idea. Do you even understand what you're asking for?

Fascists gonna fasc

[Methais]

Holy fuck that's just a terrible idea. Do you even understand what you're asking for?

What do you suggest? Send out some social workers to talk to them?

[Taernath]

What do you suggest? Send out some social workers to talk to them?

I'd suggest something in between 'do nothing' and 'send in federal troops to crush protesters'.

[RichardCranium]

Yeah enforcing the law in Chicago. That is pretty crazy.

By local and state authorities, sure. Fuck having the federal government step into any of these situations across the country.

[drauz]

Yeah enforcing the law in Chicago. That is pretty crazy.

For Federal Troops to enforce local laws, yes it fucking is.

[Alashir]

I'd suggest something in between 'do nothing' and 'send in federal troops to crush protesters'.

Lol - it's sad but I mean, funny at the same time that you have to spell it out

[Tgo01]

I'd suggest something in between 'do nothing' and 'send in federal troops to crush protesters'.

Pretty sure Candor and Methais were talking about looters, not protesters.


By local and state authorities, sure. Fuck having the federal government step into any of these situations across the country.

I'm all for local and state authorities handling this, only problem is it seems like the local and state authorities don't want to handle it. They have hamstrung the police's ability to handle situations like this.

I'm torn between saying let these cities burn to the ground and thinking the federal government has a duty to help American citizens when states refuse to help.

Just like when schools were desegregated and the governor of Arkansas called in the state national guard to prevent black students from going to an all white school, so the president nationalized the guard and ordered them along with members of the military to escort the students and protect them from harm. That is a perfect example of the federal government stepping in when the state government isn't doing their job.

But like I said part of me just wants to say let these Democrat cities burn down if that's what people voted for.

[Tgo01]

For Federal Troops to enforce local laws, yes it fucking is.

I'm sure these people are breaking plenty of federal laws.

[drauz]

Pretty sure Candor and Methais were talking about looters, not protesters.

So... now they are different?

[Taernath]

Pretty sure Candor and Methais were talking about looters, not protesters.

The entire thread has been you and others trying to paint all protesters as violent antifa supersoldiers.

If you can't make the distinction, I doubt federal troops will be able to either.

[drauz]

I'm all for local and state authorities handling this, only problem is it seems like the local and state authorities don't want to handle it. They have hamstrung the police's ability to handle situations like this.

I'm torn between saying let these cities burn to the ground and thinking the federal government has a duty to help American citizens when states refuse to help.

Just like when schools were desegregated and the governor of Arkansas called in the state national guard to prevent black students from going to an all white school, so the president nationalized the guard and ordered them along with members of the military to escort the students and protect them from harm. That is a perfect example of the federal government stepping in when the state government isn't doing their job.

But like I said part of me just wants to say let these Democrat cities burn down if that's what people voted for.

They aren't the same. That was a state not recognizing a federal law. It wasn't Arkansas refusing to arrest someone who broke a state law so we sent in the national guard to arrest them for Arkansas.

[Tgo01]

So... now they are different?

I thought they were always different? Democrats seem to be the ones using the terms "rioters/looters" and "protesters" interchangeably.


The entire thread has been you and others trying to paint all protesters as violent antifa supersoldiers.

I don't remember doing that but okay.

[drauz]

I thought they were always different? Democrats seem to be the ones using the terms "rioters/looters" and "protesters" interchangeably.



I don't remember doing that but okay.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/46/5e/71/465e71330f04c1c3188f22ec26e7b6e9.gif

[Tgo01]

They aren't the same. That was a state not recognizing a federal law.

No, it was a state trying to enforce state laws that were deemed unconstitutional by the supreme court.


It wasn't Arkansas refusing to arrest someone who broke a state law so we sent in the national guard to arrest them for Arkansas.

No one is suggesting feds arrest people for breaking state laws. There are plenty of federal laws these people are probably breaking. Unless you think there aren't federal rioting and arson laws on the books.

It is also being suggested that the feds and national guard assist local police, not take over their duties.

What is up with people acting like this is something new? Like this has never been done before? It's only controversial now because Democrats have somehow made law enforcement a fucking political issue, which is all kinds of mind boggling.

[Tgo01]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/46/5e/71/465e71330f04c1c3188f22ec26e7b6e9.gif

So never? Much like FlayedAngel you just say words without backing up what you say.

[Methais]

I'd suggest something in between 'do nothing' and 'send in federal troops to crush protesters'.

Looters and rioters, yeah. People who are protesting and not fucking shit up, they're fine. Dumb, but still ok.

What would be an example of your suggestion though? Especially if we're considering the mayor and/or other local/state authorities insisting on doing nothing at all? Or did something change with that?

[FlayedAngel]

By local and state authorities, sure. Fuck having the federal government step into any of these situations across the country.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/QMZpnb79N5BN0wsSM3/giphy.gif




The entire thread has been you and others trying to paint all protesters as violent antifa supersoldiers.

I don't remember doing that but okay.
Bitch please, you've been doing that non-stop throughout... don't suddenly pretend you haven't.

[drauz]

So never? Much like FlayedAngel you just say words without backing up what you say.

If you don't think that's exactly what you've been trying to portray then that explains a lot.

[Methais]

The entire thread has been you and others trying to paint all protesters as violent antifa supersoldiers.

If you can't make the distinction, I doubt federal troops will be able to either.

While I'm too lazy to go post searching, I'm pretty sure there's been a distinction made between "protesters" and "looters/rioters."

Except for on the news, where they want you to think the rioters and looters are also peaceful protesters. Maybe sometimes going out on a limb and referring to them as "mostly peaceful," because that makes it ok I guess.

[Tgo01]

Bitch please, you've been doing that non-stop throughout... don't suddenly pretend you haven't.

I never have. I have always pointed out the violent fuckers looting, rioting, beating people up, destroying private property, etc, then dipshits like you and Bhaalizmo would come along and say "Yeah but over 99% are peaceful protesters! Why do you keep trying to inflate the two!!!"

The only people who have ever inflated the two groups are people like you because, as per usual, your arguments are so piss poor the only way you can argue the point is to pretend people like me are saying people standing on a street corner screeching like a banshee are the same as the people throwing molotov cocktail into police cars. Do better, I know you can do it!

[Solkern]

While I'm too lazy to go post searching, I'm pretty sure there's been a distinction made between "protesters" and "looters/rioters."

Except for on the news, where they want you to think the rioters and looters are also peaceful protesters. Maybe sometimes going out on a limb and referring to them as "mostly peaceful," because that makes it ok I guess.


I bet you couldn’t find a a single tg01 post regarding this. He’s called the entire protest a democrat antifa movement or whatever that is against Trump.

[Methais]

I bet you couldn’t find a a single tg01 post regarding this.

If I'm too lazy to even bother, then yes of course I'm not going to find one.

[Tgo01]

If you don't think that's exactly what you've been trying to portray then that explains a lot.

Nope, you read what you want to read.

You see post after post after post of me pointing out the people rioting and you say "Huh, he's saying all protesters are violent rioters."

Maybe it's time you stopped getting CNN "news" beamed directly into your brain.

[drauz]

Nope, you read what you want to read.

You see post after post after post of me pointing out the people rioting and you say "Huh, he's saying all protesters are violent rioters."

Maybe it's time you stopped getting CNN "news" beamed directly into your brain.

Nice try on the wild accusations, but I don't watch them.

You should maybe stop watching Faux News though.

[FlayedAngel]

If I'm too lazy to even bother, then yes of course I'm not going to find one.
By me and other people in response to Tgo01 posts, yeah... very much not by Tgo01 himself, because it benefits his arguments to lump them together.