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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Trump is the one that set up the withdrawal deal with the Taliban. Wouldn't he be the one that begged them?
    He had a conditions based withdrawal plan, which resulted in 18+ months of tenuous stability. And I fully concede it was tenuous, but it was stable.

    Biden came in and scrapped Trump's negotiated deals, the exit plan, and did his own. Biden's administration also halted talks with the Taliban, as I linked from the July news article. That's why I really hope there is a FOIA release of information to figure out what/how occurred.

    Also our politicians being so beholden to "Party" instead of the "People" is why we are in this mess.... I'll give you an example:

    https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/111720-0 - Pelosi's statement in NOV 2020 when Trump announced the planned withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpta-RdOak - Pelosi's statement in past 2 days on Biden's decision and execution of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

    The fact we let our elected officials behave like this is asinine and a detriment to us all, regardless of which side you lean. It's been corrupted so thoroughly, that our commitment and resolve as a Nation is being demolished. It's sad to watch.
    Last edited by Shaps; 08-19-2021 at 01:08 PM.

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