Taliban taking over Afghanistan

[Tgo01]

Trump is the one that set up the withdrawal deal with the Taliban. Wouldn't he be the one that begged them?

And Biden made a new deal. This is all Biden's fuck up now. You can't say Trump made a deal to withdraw troops by April and this is somehow still Trump's deal when Biden set a deadline of the end of August. This is Biden's deal. Biden's fuckups. He owns 100% of this.

[Shaps]

Trump is the one that set up the withdrawal deal with the Taliban. Wouldn't he be the one that begged them?

He had a conditions based withdrawal plan, which resulted in 18+ months of tenuous stability. And I fully concede it was tenuous, but it was stable.

Biden came in and scrapped Trump's negotiated deals, the exit plan, and did his own. Biden's administration also halted talks with the Taliban, as I linked from the July news article. That's why I really hope there is a FOIA release of information to figure out what/how occurred.

Also our politicians being so beholden to "Party" instead of the "People" is why we are in this mess.... I'll give you an example:

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/111720-0 - Pelosi's statement in NOV 2020 when Trump announced the planned withdrawal from Afghanistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpta-RdOak - Pelosi's statement in past 2 days on Biden's decision and execution of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The fact we let our elected officials behave like this is asinine and a detriment to us all, regardless of which side you lean. It's been corrupted so thoroughly, that our commitment and resolve as a Nation is being demolished. It's sad to watch.

[Gelston]

And Biden made a new deal. This is all Biden's fuck up now. You can't say Trump made a deal to withdraw troops by April and this is somehow still Trump's deal when Biden set a deadline of the end of August. This is Biden's deal. Biden's fuckups. He owns 100% of this.

rofl, Biden doesn't own 100% of this.

[Solkern]

And Biden made a new deal. This is all Biden's fuck up now. You can't say Trump made a deal to withdraw troops by April and this is somehow still Trump's deal when Biden set a deadline of the end of August. This is Biden's deal. Biden's fuckups. He owns 100% of this.

Can you provide a link of the new deal Biden made with the Taliban?

[Gelston]

He had a conditions based withdrawal plan, which resulted in 18+ months of tenuous stability. And I fully concede it was tenuous, but it was stable.

Biden came in and scrapped Trump's negotiated deals, the exit plan, and did his own. Biden's administration also halted talks with the Taliban, as I linked from the July news article. That's why I really hope there is a FOIA release of information to figure out what/how occurred.

Also our politicians being so beholden to "Party" instead of the "People" is why we are in this mess.... I'll give you an example:

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/111720-0 - Pelosi's statement in NOV 2020 when Trump announced the plan withdrawal from Afghanistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIpta-RdOak - Pelosi's statement in past 2 days on Biden's decision and execution of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The fact we let our elected officials behave like this is asinine and a detriment to us all, regardless of which side you lean. It's been corrupted so thoroughly, that our commitment and resolve as a Nation is being demolished. It's sad to watch.

And is it only begging when Biden makes a deal with the Taliban or not?

[Tgo01]

rofl, Biden doesn't own 100% of this.

Okay, fine, Biden's administration owns 100% this, I'm sure plenty of people around him had a hand in this fuck up. Why would this be literally anyone else's fault? You can blame the past 3 presidents for us still being in Afghanistan, you can say it was inevitable that the Taliban would have taken control of the country eventually, but the withdraw and every fuck up that has happened during this is withdraw is 100% on Biden's administration. Who else would we blame?

[Solkern]

Oh wow, that was your point? Yeah well, the Pentagon has already come out and said they need to make a new deal with the Taliban if they want to stay there past the end of the month, so now, Biden was 100% wrong when he said we will simply stay there as long as needed. Do you ever tire of being wrong literally all of the time?

My point is quite simple. You made a point that was not correct according to reports. I refuted that point. It’s really not that difficult to understand, is it?

[Tgo01]

Can you provide a link of the new deal Biden made with the Taliban?

Because you've proven you so desperately want to have an honest discussion. Fuck you. Remember fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...you can't be fooled again.

And yeah say whatever dumb shit like "LOL! That's what I thought." You win da internetz!

[Gelston]

Okay, fine, Biden's administration owns 100% this, I'm sure plenty of people around him had a hand in this fuck up. Why would this be literally anyone else's fault? You can blame the past 3 presidents for us still being in Afghanistan, you can say it was inevitable that the Taliban would have taken control of the country eventually, but the withdraw and every fuck up that has happened during this is withdraw is 100% on Biden's administration. Who else would we blame?

Nope. Every Admin from Bush to now has a piece of the pie.

[Tgo01]

My point is quite simple. You made a point that was not correct according to reports. I refuted that point. It’s really not that difficult to understand, is it?

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