Portland.

[FlayedAngel]

I could say the same thing about you in this thread where you are actively downplaying the violence in Portland and keep saying "media spin" when all I've ever talked about was the raw video footage I've seen and police reports I've read.

"Actively downplayed" is inaccurate, more like warned against false representation of the severity (or lack thereof) of the situation; that's more of a zero-sum situation at best, so we're even. I remarked on factors behind the escalation of violence without denying the occurrence of violence, and the way it's being portrayed in some cases -- as I said -- is a flat-out lie.

I actually live here. The protest area itself is an incredibly small part of the city and the protests have remained largely peaceful, so the narrative of a "city on fire" and "gripped by violence" is a blatant exaggeration (see above).

Once again: You can do whatever you want with that information.

See what I mean about you having an "unhealthy and unproductive extremes, or an intractable inability to critically examine one's own viewpoint or the viewpoints of others."

Is this the response equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?"

Extreme biases are bad and something to be avoided, that's just a fact. If you want to disagree with that point and be proud of having flagrant biases, well... go ahead, I guess.

Huh?

RE: Did the mayor of Seattle care when rioters took over parts of the city? Nope. She even referred to it as the Summer of Love. She didn't have it dismantled until they protested outside her house.

Did the governor of Washington state care about this? Nope. Days after they took over parts of the city he claimed he wasn't even aware of what was going on.

Has the mayor of Portland done really anything to stop all of the rioting going on in his city? Nope. He has hamstrung the police and hardly made a peep about any of it.

Did any Democrat politicians care when people were being murdered in CHAZ? Not really, in fact some even tried to blame Trump and claimed it was all just Republican hype.

Did Nancy Pelosi recognize that a federal courthouse in Portland was being attacked several nights in a row which is probably what prompted Trump to take action? Nope. She didn't even mention it and instead claimed Trump was disappearing "peaceful protesters" who were just expressing their freedom of speech.

Time and time again Democrats look the other way when violent leftists engage in violence. Literally the minute Trump wants to try to restore law and order he's the bad guy who is quashing freedom of speech.

I was remarking that your chain of logic was fallacious due to attacking (or presuming) motive in all cases; you assume the worst of all Democrats, and decry those assuming the worst of Trump, which is not terribly shocking. Neither are perfect entities, and MISTAKES WERE MADE seems to be shaping up to be the theme of the year all around.

No, I don't consider the federal government enforcing federal laws to lead to an "authoritarian dystopia."

You should cut back on the Nancy Pelosi tweets who heavily implied federal officers and the military are comparable to Nazi Germany stormtroopers.

I don't follow Nancy Pelosi, but sure... undesignated feds dragging citizens into unmarked civilian vehicles without evidence or probable cause is totally constitutional, and has absolutely no parallels to anything else in history.