More Obamacare fuckups

[waywardgs]

Is that somehow better? Either way it's making me wonder why I bother being responsible.

I want a big sign-up sheet. If I sign my name to this sheet, I will be removed from availability for ACA, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, WIC, EBT, free phones (yeah, it's not "technically" tax-payer money...but you still pay for the universal service charge on your phone, so it still comes out of your pocket), and every other Federal program that I'll never use....but I'll also be removed from having to pay for it.

Let's make this shit optional and see how sustainable it is.

I'm talking about your own personal use of social safety nets to get your life back on track... Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing I guess.

Ps no one is forcing you to remain a us citizen... That's kinda like the sign-up sheet...

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That's not surprising at all. I wouldn't have health insurance if I wasn't forced to...I'm 33 in great health. The likelihood of me getting as much money out of it as I put in is very, very slim.

Just like Social Security, it's a big scam to get responsible young adults to pay for irresponsible older adults.

Sounds like you are operating under an adolescent mentality of invincibility. It's like car insurance. Yeah, we pay a lot of money betting that we don't get into accidents, but we eventually do. The fact that we all pay makes the cost lower for everyone. God forbid something drastic happens but if it does we're covered. Plus... its a normal person who gets themselves checked every once in a while.

I'd like to add here that while I may not need coverage as much as older people do I am happy to pay in to help my older friends and family members be able to afford it. Heck, I'm happy to pay in to help anyone who needs it.

[cwolff]

Isn't this why Ayn Rand sucking off the government tit comes up? She was all about individual effort stand on your own two feet bullshit but she ended up on Social Security and Medicare because she smoked herself into lung cancer?

[Warriorbird]

Isn't this why Ayn Rand sucking off the government tit comes up? She was all about individual effort stand on your own two feet bullshit but she ended up on Social Security and Medicare because she smoked herself into lung cancer?

Paul Ryan too.

[Thondalar]

I'm talking about your own personal use of social safety nets to get your life back on track... Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing I guess.

I used Food Stamps and housing subsidies for a very brief period, and I've said many times that there should be some amount of assistance available for just such scenarios. However, it should be a hell of a lot more restrictive than it is.

I don't plan on seeing a dime back of what I've paid into Social Security or Medicaid.

Ps no one is forcing you to remain a us citizen... That's kinda like the sign-up sheet...

lol...what?

[cwolff]

I used Food Stamps and housing subsidies for a very brief period, and I've said many times that there should be some amount of assistance available for just such scenarios. However, it should be a hell of a lot more restrictive than it is.

I don't plan on seeing a dime back of what I've paid into Social Security or Medicaid.



lol...what?

Wait a minute. You sucked the government tit too? Now you're all about "Let me opt-out, I don't need that shit and won't be using it." Good Grief.

[Thondalar]

Sounds like you are operating under an adolescent mentality of invincibility. It's like car insurance. Yeah, we pay a lot of money betting that we don't get into accidents, but we eventually do. The fact that we all pay makes the cost lower for everyone. God forbid something drastic happens but if it does we're covered. Plus... its a normal person who gets themselves checked every once in a while.

I'm operating under the mentality of I can take care of myself. If something happens that I need to pay for it, I have money to pay for it. I don't live paycheck to paycheck and drive the newest leased vehicles and wear the hottest new designer clothes and eat out at fancy restaurants every day and go "oh, it's cool if I get cancer, my medical bills will be paid for!"

I see a doctor regularly, I see a dentist regularly. I get my vision checked once a year. I would gladly pay 100% out of pocket for these services, because I'M the one using them.

I'd like to add here that while I may not need coverage as much as older people do I am happy to pay in to help my older friends and family members be able to afford it. Heck, I'm happy to pay in to help anyone who needs it.

I'd most certainly help my friends and family pay for unexpected medical expenses. That's what friends and family are for. I'm not friends and family with the entire population of the US.

[Wrathbringer]

Sounds like you are operating under an adolescent mentality of invincibility. It's like car insurance. Yeah, we pay a lot of money betting that we don't get into accidents, but we eventually do. The fact that we all pay makes the cost lower for everyone. God forbid something drastic happens but if it does we're covered. Plus... its a normal person who gets themselves checked every once in a while.

I'd like to add here that while I may not need coverage as much as older people do I am happy to pay in to help my older friends and family members be able to afford it. Heck, I'm happy to pay in to help anyone who needs it.

Speak for yourself. YOU pay a lot... Some of us have figured out that we don't have to have car/health insurance. If you and the other sheeple are happy to pay for others, then go right ahead. That doesn't mean I should have to as well.

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I'm not friends and family with the entire population of the US.

Obviously.

[Thondalar]

Isn't this why Ayn Rand sucking off the government tit comes up? She was all about individual effort stand on your own two feet bullshit but she ended up on Social Security and Medicare because she smoked herself into lung cancer?

"...the victims, who opposed such laws, have a clear right to any refund of their own money—and they would not advance the cause of freedom if they left their money unclaimed, for the benefit of the welfare-state administration."

-Ayn Rand