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    Obamacare’s exchanges only enrolled 1.4 million previously uninsured individuals.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/oba...y-finds-n74976

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...d-individuals/

    http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014...hanges/360392/

    I love Obamacare.
    "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it." - Thomas Paine.

    Lightning has killed more Americans in the last forty years than terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjasLeadTheWay View Post
    I do too. I'm so glad at least one politician finally got off his ass to get the ball rolling on healthcare reform. ACA's a great start and I'm looking to see how it develops over the years. Still rooting for socialized health care, but that might not be possible here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    I'm so glad at least one politician finally got off his ass to get the ball rolling on healthcare reform.
    You mean when Bush and Nixon were pushing for healthcare reform but the Democrats in Congress at the respective times said no way?

    Yeah. I liked that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You mean when Bush and Nixon were pushing for healthcare reform but the Democrats in Congress at the respective times said no way?

    Yeah. I liked that too.
    Where do you think we got this plan? You should be stoked to finally see it implemented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Where do you think we got this plan? You should be stoked to finally see it implemented.
    You should be pissed that Democrats didn't want to pass healthcare reform unless it was "their" president doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    I do too. I'm so glad at least one politician finally got off his ass to get the ball rolling on healthcare reform. ACA's a great start and I'm looking to see how it develops over the years. Still rooting for socialized health care, but that might not be possible here.
    Socialized healthcare is terrible for the simple fact that not everyone deserve the same quality of healthcare. Some deserve great, some deserve good, some deserve adequate, others deserve minimal, and scumbags do not deserve it at all (ie serial criminals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You should be pissed that Democrats didn't want to pass healthcare reform unless it was "their" president doing it.
    Once again you're just bitching to bitch. This has been coming for a long time. It took Barack Obama's Presidency to get it done.

    I don't get why you have to always make this some tit-for-tat bullshit. As if the GOP's been leading the health care reform debate and were stymied at every turn by those evil Democrats. You don't have to be partisan all the time. Criticize the dems all you want but you're barking up the wrong tree trying to blame them for not having comprehensive health care reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Once again you're just bitching to bitch. This has been coming for a long time. It took Barack Obama's Presidency to get it done.

    I don't get why you have to always make this some tit-for-tat bullshit. As if the GOP's been leading the health care reform debate and were stymied at every turn by those evil Democrats. You don't have to be partisan all the time. Criticize the dems all you want but you're barking up the wrong tree trying to blame them for not having comprehensive health care reform.
    Is it your position the Democrats have delivered comprehensive healthcare reform? Because I'm pretty sure that we had an uninsured population of 50 million in 2008, and that 6 million people got cancelled policies, and that 7 million people added a plan to their shopping cart on healthcare.gov. Meanwhile I don't think quality of care has increased, wait times or ease of access have not gotten better, insurance rates have not gone down, nor has medical cost inflation (the true actual disease from which all the other symptoms arise) abated.

    So after spending a trillion we have a net gain of 1 million insured people, why didn't we just write all of them a check? Would have been simpler.

    Our country does really need comprehensive healthcare reform. I hope one day we get it, it hasn't happened yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Once again you're just bitching to bitch. This has been coming for a long time. It took Barack Obama's Presidency to get it done.

    I don't get why you have to always make this some tit-for-tat bullshit. As if the GOP's been leading the health care reform debate and were stymied at every turn by those evil Democrats. You don't have to be partisan all the time. Criticize the dems all you want but you're barking up the wrong tree trying to blame them for not having comprehensive health care reform.
    Do you not remember what posted a few hours ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    I'm so glad at least one politician finally got off his ass to get the ball rolling on healthcare reform.
    You're the one making it partisan and you're still making it partisan. Both Republican and Democratic presidents have been trying to push healthcare reform over the past few decades but usually the the other party controlled all of or half of Congress and they stopped it because they wanted their party to be the one to push it through. It's just especially ironic because it was just a couple of years before Obama took office that Democrats killed Bush's healthcare plan in Congress, they wouldn't even discuss it or bring it up for a vote then 2 years later Democrats push through their own shitty healthcare plan and Democrats suddenly act like they are the only ones who care about the healthcare of Americans?

    Seriously what the fuck? Only someone with the largest blinders in the world on would buy into this absolute garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crb View Post
    Is it your position the Democrats have delivered comprehensive healthcare reform? Because I'm pretty sure that we had an uninsured population of 50 million in 2008, and that 6 million people got cancelled policies, and that 7 million people added a plan to their shopping cart on healthcare.gov. Meanwhile I don't think quality of care has increased, wait times or ease of access have not gotten better, insurance rates have not gone down, nor has medical cost inflation (the true actual disease from which all the other symptoms arise) abated.

    So after spending a trillion we have a net gain of 1 million insured people, why didn't we just write all of them a check? Would have been simpler.

    Our country does really need comprehensive healthcare reform. I hope one day we get it, it hasn't happened yet.
    We've just finished it's first enrollment period. ACA isn't a magic wand where you wave it on Jan. 1st and *POOF* the uninsured disappear. The fact that you guys seem to be judging it that way tells me that you don't understand it.

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