Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
Let me clarify a bit, you don’t need to give a “direct order” to tell someone to attack. Let’s imagine I’m the leader of an armed biker gang, and I go up my crew at the bar and say, Yo, these fuckers disrespected me, let’s go talk to them. You know damn well, my biker gang would roll up, heavily armed and ready for war. Now, let’s imagine there was a shooting, I didn’t tell them to grab their guns, or we are going to fight, but my intention was clear to them but maybe to someone outside of the gang, who heard me say that, they didn’t think this would happen based on my words, nor did I ever tell them to directly do what I wanted them to do.

An angry group of armed men, who have undying support for Trump, believe every word he says and take things to extreme, and in some cases believe him to be their god, (this would be his gang) when Trump says let’s meet up and let’s head to the Capitol, we need to take back our country, and fight like hell or whatever, much like my biker gang, those people are going to arm up and prepare to “take back our country” and “fight like hell” in whichever way they are fit, and they will take it to an extreme.

Trump has a history of extremely fiery speech, that can be taken in any number of ways, such as telling the proud boys, “Stand back, and stand by” or whatever he said.

You aren’t an undying loyal Trump supporter that believes everything he says, or think he’s some sort of god, like the ones who stormed the Capitol. What they heard Trump say, and what you heard Trump say have two completely different interpretations.

So once again, you have people, who stormed the Capitol, telling us, Trump told us to do it. Why shouldn’t we believe them?

Do you think when the biker dude is in court for murder, and he says my boss told us to do it, that the judge is going to believe me when I said “no I didn’t your honor, I said “let’s go talk to them.””. I really meant just talk to them? Of course not. I’ll be also charged with murder.
Yes I agree you don’t have to explicitly say take up arms and storm the Capitol, and let me reveal my elaborate evil plot in a speech like some Bond villain giving a monelague. However, saying we’re going down there and fight like hell (paraphrasing) isn’t even implying any of that in my eyes.

On your question of why shouldn’t we believe them?, a couple things…. In this country a defendant is presumed innocent. It needs to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt otherwise so that testimony can and should be scrutinized. There is also the matter of a constitutional right to free speech. If I hear my daughters’ elementary school is teaching lesbian dance theory, and I get on the PTA board to tell other fathers we are going down to the PTA meeting and fight like hell…would you assume that means to get violent? If some other dad idiot breaks into the meeting and gets violent, would you assume that my words were responsible for inciting a riot? The answer should be fuck no.