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Did DeSantis ruin his presidential aspirations, by fighting with Disney? A fight he’s going to lose and lose badly?
I don’t understand why he even went after Disney. I thought he was pro first amendment and pro-business. Looks like he’s neither. Not to mention personally targeting disney and admitting to it because they don’t agree with him…. Looks really bad.
He is pro First Amendment. He is anti child grooming, tax evasion, corruption and covering up crimes.
DeSantis just wants what the rest of us want. We want to make sure your 6 year old son has a healthy, wet puss and your 8 year old daughter has a nice cock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's important to all of us.
even knowing what you mean, yuck..Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
What's wrong with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
You don't want your son to have a healthy intestine vagina?
Why's it yucky? Whenever I get into convo's with people about things like this.. I make sure to make it as blatant as possible if they're talking nonsense...Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
"They just want to transition, and explore their sexuality! You're just a transphobic bastard! Blah, blah, blah..."
"So you just like seeing children with their dicks chopped off and fake holes put in them? Huh... interesting. Tell me.. why is that?"
The fact that we, as a society/country, even have to have this conversation is batshit insane. Once a person is an adult, sure... do whatever you want to yourself... trying to tell parents they must support mutilating their child before they have even matured is fucking sadistic and evil... yet somehow... here we are...
With the fucking logic people use to support this nonsense... there should be no smoking age limit, no drinking age limit, no driving age limit, no sexual age limit... ohhhhhh... see what's happening? You fucking PEDO MAPs....
People are fucking morons.
i just saw the thread with the pod cast on it..I don't have time to listen to all of it to make out the context, but preteen puss or boots.. doesn't need to be referred to sexually at all.
@Shaps some would argue that's what having a circumcison on males is. and almost 80 percent of american males had that done before they made a choice. Apples and Oranges, just a thought though.
a side note, i dont have a source, but some random news article I was reading today was citing people more likely to come down with this cancer, and it felt the need to add the need the gender you were born as... in part of it's statistics. that's sorry that has to be spelled out.
So Disney using its first amendment right, and DeSantis targeting Disney for doing that, is pro first amendment? While you may not agree with what Disney said, targeting a company for using its first amendment right, is not pro first amendment.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Yeah, no. Targeting a company that is intentionally supporting and covering up child grooming, sexual assault among other crimes is not a violation of First Amendment. But you keep believing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I don't disagree... circumcision is an unwarranted operation, but it is not the same as full castration...Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
You know... I've had to observe the unwanted results of Female Genital Mutilation in some countries that did this shit previously... You know what the WHO said about that?
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-s...tal-mutilation
"FGM is a violation of the human rights of girls and women." <----SEE THIS???? INTERNATIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION... But we got people on Dr. Phil talking about how their fucking 8 year old just needed the surgery to "feel like their authentic self"... FUCKING MORONS.
"WHO strongly urges health care providers not to perform FGM and has developed a global strategy and specific materials to support health care providers against medicalization."
"Female genital mutilation is classified into 4 major types:
Type 1: This is the partial or total removal of the clitoral glans (the external and visible part of the clitoris, which is a sensitive part of the female genitals), and/or the prepuce/clitoral hood (the fold of skin surrounding the clitoral glans).
Type 2: This is the partial or total removal of the clitoral glans and the labia minora (the inner folds of the vulva), with or without removal of the labia majora (the outer folds of skin of the vulva).
Type 3: Also known as infibulation, this is the narrowing of the vaginal opening through the creation of a covering seal. The seal is formed by cutting and repositioning the labia minora, or labia majora, sometimes through stitching, with or without removal of the clitoral prepuce/clitoral hood and glans.
Type 4: This includes all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, e.g., pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterizing the genital area."
So you want to explain to me, why people pushing for the mutilation of children is okay? People are fucking hypocrites... all there is...
If that person, once they reach adulthood want to chop their own shit off... I could care less...
Doing it to them while they are still a child? Fucking sick.
People are literally promoting something that we tried to eradicate... all in the name of... you guessed it... "diversity, equity, and inclusion"... You fools are getting played.. and people are fucking morons.
And this is why words, and definitions, matter...
Abortion = killing a baby... but people get upset if you say that.
Transitioning a child = genital mutilation... but people get upset and change the terminology.
Safe space = segregation... but people bought into the lie.
Fucking idiots. If you support it... call it what it is... but they won't, because they know deep down it's fucked up, so they have to use different language, softer language, nice sounding language (ie. lies)... and somehow, through messaging, they are getting people to accept what was previously abhorrent.
Having to point this out to supposed adults is fucking frustrating.
You think they're telling all those patients and parents this shit?
"No health benefits, only harm"
"FGM has no health benefits, and it harms girls and women in many ways. It involves removing and damaging healthy and normal female genital tissue, and it interferes with the natural functions of girls' and women's bodies. Although all forms of FGM are associated with increased risk of health complications, the risk is greater with more severe forms of FGM.
Immediate complications of FGM can include:
severe pain
excessive bleeding (haemorrhage)
genital tissue swelling
fever
infections e.g., tetanus
urinary problems
wound healing problems
injury to surrounding genital tissue
shock
death.
Long-term complications can include:
urinary problems (painful urination, urinary tract infections);
vaginal problems (discharge, itching, bacterial vaginosis and other infections);
menstrual problems (painful menstruations, difficulty in passing menstrual blood, etc.);
scar tissue and keloid;
sexual problems (pain during intercourse, decreased satisfaction, etc.);
increased risk of childbirth complications (difficult delivery, excessive bleeding, caesarean section, need to resuscitate the baby, etc.) and newborn deaths;
need for later surgeries: for example, the sealing or narrowing of the vaginal opening (type 3) may lead to the practice of cutting open the sealed vagina later to allow for sexual intercourse and childbirth (deinfibulation). Sometimes genital tissue is stitched again several times, including after childbirth, hence the woman goes through repeated opening and closing procedures, further increasing both immediate and long-term risks; and
psychological problems (depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, low self-esteem, etc.)."
But hey sure... go ahead and fuck your 8 year old up... How have people become so fucking STUPID.
https://www.un.org/en/observances/fe...mutilation-day
"International Day of Zero Tolerance for Female Genital Mutilation, 6 February"
"Ending Female Genital Mutilation by 2030"
Female genital mutilation (FGM) comprises all procedures that involve altering or injuring the female genitalia for non-medical reasons and is recognized internationally as a violation of the human rights, the health and the integrity of girls and women."
Isn't it awesome? While the UN in New York calls for the ending of genital mutilation...
We've got parents in the US, and right down the street from the UN in NY, legally castrating their children... both male and female.
They should be shamed and the people that support this bullshit... are on the wrong side of history... and sadly we can't provide them with the same services they demand for their children.
Fucking pathetic.
Wake the fuck up, you fucking morons.
Uh, yeah it is? Retaliatory action by a state government against a private company for its protected speech, is breaking the first amendment and a violation of free speech. If you think otherwise, then you don’t even know what the first amendment is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
The First Amendment protects free speech and bars the government from retaliating in response to protected activity. Those protections extend beyond basic rights, like the right to protest, and into privileges: A government may not revoke a privilege in response to First Amendment-protected criticism.
DeSantis in his memoir stated clearly he went after Disney because they criticized his bill.
That is illegal and a violation of the first amendment
It doesn’t matter if you agree to what Disney said or not.
Setting all the Disney pedo shit aside for a moment, even though I can't imagine why you're siding with a pedo corporation to begin with, but anyway...convince me as to why Disney should have its own special government and tax status and all that retarded special treatment shit in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
By all means it destroyed his chances. The publicity of his culture war has always been vile, but then he used his position as governor to attack a corporation that has been nothing but great for his state. A corporation mind you with a hundred times his resources, intelligence, and media contacts. People realized his culture war was fake and worse, he took on a foe in Disney and lost, repeatedly. Trying to passing the Trump crowd and being a pussy when the orange man was attacking him was also a major mistake, he lost his opportunity to be Trump's replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
He's a father.. he's just doing what any normal father would do when a person or company is against protecting your children from grooming and pedophelia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
The real question should be: You're supposedly a father.. why are you upset that in Florida, teachers can no longer groom the ELEMENTARY kids in their classroom with frank discussions about sex and sexual situations? Why is it so important for you that teachers be allowed to do this?
See, I get why Seran is against it. He's made his opinion quite clear when it comes to grooming elementary children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I just don't understand when someone who is a father stands with pedophelia.
I think they had a contract with the state of FL which is why they had all those special accesses and the recent board made a decision which was not done properly according to the contract which is why Disney is fighting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Dupe post and it won’t let me delete
You really need to stop living in your pedo bubble of retardedness and failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I would rather DeSantis wins the Republican nomination and becomes the next President.
Or Haley.
Or Ramaswamy.
Or Hutchinson.
Or Sununu.
Or Scott.
Or Youngkin.
But the only thing that will ruin DeSantis' chances is Trump. He has an amazing base that will vote for him no matter what... so it's Trump's nomination to lose.
The only solace I will gain is the fact that the meltdown in 2024 will be 10x more than in 2016.
You do know, it’s not just Disney that has this special agreement right? Quite a few other companies have something similar. It was an agreement made that was beneficial to both Florida and Disney. It was a win win situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
It's cool and all you're virtue signaling on behalf of DeSantis, but you do realize he's a sexual predator? Pictures of him grooming his underaged students with booze at parties were all over the news. Hell, Trump himself posted them. This is another sick fuck of a Republican trying to legislate to distract and deflect attention from his deviant interests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
What does this have to do with anything I am talking about? I’m specifically talking about DeSantis and his actions that are a direct violation of the first amendment, freedom of speech and it’s not pro-business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I am no lawyer and have no skin in this game, but… My understanding of the First Amendment is that it protects speech from the government taking action of censorship and prosecution for said speech. It doesn’t mean you can say whatever you want without any consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Broad example: Let us say your employer has a financial contract with the state, and then you as a representative of your company go on Twitter saying that governor is a poo-poo head. If they RFP once the contract expires and a government admits that your Tweets factored into their decision to seek another FI, I don’t believe the 1st Amendment is going to offer you any protection for the government choosing to seek a different provider.
Another one: If you yell profanity in front of a school, while such speech is legal and protected, people are going to react towards you with hostility. The government can’t arrest you for saying bad words, but it doesn’t protect you from the consequences of your actions.
DeSantis went after Disney when it spoke out in opposition to the Don't Say Gay bill and stopped funding Florida Republicans. Taking executive and legislative action against a company that spoke out against you? That's most certainly retaliation against free speech rights by a state government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Direct retaliatory actions by the US government against a company exercising it’s free speech under the first amendment is illegal. Why didn’t DeSantis go after the other many companies that also made similar remarks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Next DeSantis has said he’s going after Disney because they disagreed with a law that was passed, they didn’t attack, make threats, name call or do anything that would warrant any type of action.
Regarding your first scenario, that isn’t the US government coming after you over your freedom of speech. Them choosing not to renew a contract with you is far different than them going out of their way to do a retaliatory attack trying to take control of your company, because of what was said.
Regarding your second scenario. Imagine the government did come after you? Because that’s what DeSantis is doing to Disney. He specifically stated in his memoir that he is going after Disney because they voiced their disagreement over the law.
Could Disney suffer consequences from the remarks, by a public outcry people not coming to the park, boycotts and things like that? Of course. But having the governor of your state, do direct retaliatory actions because of that, is illegal.
Imagine you own a company and you tweet that you disagree with a law that was passed, and in response the government comes through and tries to take control of your company. I’m 100% sure you’d be screaming first amendment violations! Government overreach and whatnot.
Now if the government did nothing and at the end of your contract with them, chose not to renew it based on your comments? That’s 100% different, that’s a business agreement, not a law.
Ok then, convince me why any of them should have it. But especially the pedo corporation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
You still believe the Russian piss hooker story along with the 958932749023 other debunked Trump conspiracies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's funny that you think anything you say is credible though, especially while you're projecting your pedophilia in every Disney/DeSantis/Florida post you make, because teachers not being able to groom elementary school kids upsets you so much.
^ Exhibit A of you proving how gullible you are by still calling it the "Don't Say Gay" bill, despite the bill having nothing at all to do with gay anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You're gullible and stupid as fuck beyond belief. The only person who is unaware of this is you.
Sorry buddy I’m not a Florida resident nor do I have an understanding of the full benefits of the special agreements that were made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I can throw it back at you, convince me why they shouldn’t?
We both know it’s not important to this topic. So it’s a waste of time to debate the merits of this law.
Honestly I think Disney would have just kept their public outcry just that, but once that board i think violated the contract rules that’s really why Disney went out this way. They cite first amendment speech as part of it but I think their real argument against desantis comes from the contract concern. I also think when this goes to court that is going to be what holds more water than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
But I can say this. I’m 99% sure any state would make this agreement with Disney in a heart beat. Knowing the revenue, tourism and the jobs they give and provide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
It’s definitely case of Florida needs Disney, not the other way around.
I know Virginia also has rules for incentives to attract businesses, that’s why NOVA is getting buried in data centers. So I don’t think it’s that out of bounds this exists. I would both the money hungry corporations and the states themselves bear equal blame in these spots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Not to mention, he specifically states in his memoir that he attacked and went after Disney because they used their first amendment right and voiced their opposition. Clear violation of the constitutionQuote:
Originally Posted by Orthin
I'm literally speaking about the Florida Law that makes it illegal for "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I get why you are still upset over this bill.. it literally makes grooming elementary kids illegal in Florida.
You might have to stick with California to get your children now, pedo.
So you can't tell me why they deserve special treatment, but you're upset that their special treatment is being taken away? Weak copout like usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
They shouldn't have it because special treatment by the government on a scale like that shouldn't be a thing for anyone.Quote:
I can throw it back at you, convince me why they shouldn’t?
And also because Disney in particular are a bunch of pedos and are for the most part open about it now.
Sure it is, and any other organizations that are getting special treatment like this, which I'm sure you'll be more than happy to tell me who these other companies are since you brought it up, should have it taken away as well. Because it shouldn't exist.Quote:
We both know it’s not important to this topic. So it’s a waste of time to debate the merits of this law.
But sure let's ignore all that so people can stay hyperfocused focus on how butthurt they and Disney both are over teachers not being allowed to groom elementary school kids.
You posted this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I explained it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Now, why don't you tell us why you are so upset that grooming elementary children in Florida is illegal?
In Seran's defense... he equates anything as sex as gay.. it's the way his "brain" "thinks".Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I could care less if it’s taken away. I care about DeSantis blatant disregard for the first amendment, and using the US government for a retaliatory attack against a business that disagrees with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
A clear violation of the US Constitution and US law.
No matter what you think of Disney or any other company, Republicans are a party of law, DeSantis is clearly violating the law and the constitution, you should care about that.
I just want to know if men can get pregnant or not, but Seran won't tell me. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I don't believe any company should have a special district where they act as the county government. That's the.. county government's responsibility and should be directed by the State.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It was in the 1960's when Florida was trying to attract Disney to come here. They've gotten their 60+ years of value from that deal.
It will be a blue state, because, the red states are kind of not willing to sacrifice the innocents of children at the altar of pedophiles for riches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
But, this is the hill Democrats have decided to die on. Pedophilia, killing babies and exchanging reality for delusion.
I’m pretty sure one of the Carolinas, I think south, already offered to take Disney in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Classic PB deflection, ignore the reality of a pedo governor and then claim everyone else is the problem. You do understand DeSantis expanded "Don't Say Gay" to all levels of schooling through the end of high school? So those same girls and boys he was pictured grooming with alcohol would be prevented from talking to their school officials about be preyed upon by DeSantis. The goal of protecting children was exposed as a mirage that in fact shielded victimizers like the Governor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I honestly have no opinion about that, as I don’t know enough about this topic at hand. I’m focused on DeSantis violating the US Constitution’s first amendment by using the US government for retaliatory attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
So Democrats are not the party of law?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Is this your standard?
Were you this outraged about the 1st amendment when the government was silencing Republicans on social networks?
I mean it's the "progressives" that are wanting to bastardize free speech. So, here we are.
Seran: "IT'S NOT FAIR WE CAN'T GROOM ELEMENTARY CHILDREN!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Bro, I don't care. Normal people are against pedophelia and grooming elementary children. I know you aren't, but then again, no one has ever claimed you are normal.
Stick to picking up little boys in California.
Why are you so upset about Florida doing this.. are you afraid normal people across the country will finally wake up to the grooming?
The government never silenced anyone on social media. A private company isn’t the U.S. government, and they can do as they please. You agreed to those TOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
I made the remark about the Republicans are a party of law, because it’s something they pride themselves on for as long as I can remember and love to keep bringing it up and over and over again.
And DeSantis is focused on not allowing children to mutilate themselves. Disney decided that talking to 3rd graders about this shit is a good thing, I don't care about Disney at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
LMAO, now the 1st amendment doesn't matter to Solkern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
A true piece of shit.
So you don’t care that he violated the constitution, violated the first amendment, and broke the law? Just because you don’t like Disney, and the stance they took?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
The first amendment protects people from the US government not from private companies. You do know this, right? I hope you do. But this comment obviously shows that you don’t understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Setting aside your desperate butthurt fueled reaching for a moment, there was no "Don't Say Gay" bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Can men get pregnant though?
You have to either be one of the most naive people alive or one the dumbest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Which one is it?
So, you believe that the "Twitter Files" were all made up.. that multiple government officials and departments didn't have their hands and money all over Twitter?
Republicans are the Party of Law... we let the court of law decide the case.Quote:
I made the remark about the Republicans are a party of law, because it’s something they pride themselves on for as long as I can remember and love to keep bringing it up and over and over again.
The government was telling them to silence people. I know you have to pretend they didn't so the 2020 election appears legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
And no, I don't give a fuck about Disneys 1st amendment rights. They support pedophilia.
Solkern doesn't care about the first amendment. He only cares that his son can get a pussy at age 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Are you just pretending you've been in the dark about what's been happening on social media that's been exposed so far? Or are you living under an actual rock?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
They only pedophile is DeSantis in that discussion, there is photo evidence. The Don't Say Gay bill prevents children from being able to report crimes to their counselors who are mandatory reporters. Your ilk are endangering children and claiming anyone who opposes it has nefarious intentions, when its proven DeSantis is a habitual groomer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Honestly and respectfully, it’s not clear to me that this is a first amendment violation. I get where you are coming from, but I don’t know if that protection is afforded in respect to retaliation by revoking a special government contract / privilege. I’m not up to date on all the latest actions on this particular topic, but if Disney believes their constitutionally protected rights were violated there is a legal process for that they can pursue. Until it’s decided in a court of law, we are merely talking about opinions here in which we don’t know all the facts & legalities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
There is no Don't Say Gay bill and there never was. Stop being an NPC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The previous sentence was rhetorical, because you're incapable of being anything but an NPC.
Can men get pregnant though?
So weird how you're so unwilling to enlighten me with your gender expertise...
And yet he signed it into law that you can't groom children... and you've been outraged about it ever since.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Seems to me there is one groomer pedo in this... and it's not DeSantis.
Why don't you tell us why you are still so upset by this legislation? It's not like you import little boys from Florida, is it?
After the first set of Files was published, many technology journalists wrote that the reported evidence did not demonstrate much more than Twitter's policy team having a difficult time making a tough call but resolving the matter swiftly, while right-wing voices said the documents confirmed Twitter's liberal bias. According to Rolling Stone, while a significant portion of the Twitter files were devoted to Twitter's handling of takedown requests by Democrats and federal officials, Republican officials also "routinely asked Twitter to take down posts they objected to".Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
An internal study Twitter conducted in 2018 found its algorithms favored the political right.Wired and Slate described the policy by which moderators were unable to act on high-profile conservative accounts without first escalating to high-level management as "preferential treatment",
Musk claimed that Twitter's content moderation violated the First Amendment. However, legal experts refuted the idea that content moderation by a private company violates the First Amendment, as it only restricts government actors. David Loy, legal director for the First Amendment Coalition, said that Twitter is legally able to choose what speech is allowed on their site, noting that both the Biden campaign, which was not part of the government, and the Trump White House could request specific content moderation actions.
Looks like both Democrats and Republicans asked Twitter to remove some tweets, sometimes Twitter complied if I violated their terms of service, and sometimes they didn’t. So what’s the big deal?
Looks like Republicans were getting favoritism and preferential treatment.
I saw nothing of the government coming in and forcing Twitter to do anything.
I don’t use any social media, and don’t really pay attention to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
This is my favorite part of that entire post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
100% concur, they have filed a lawsuit, it’s time to see where it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Seran strokes his own sausage to videos of Biden sniffing & inappropriately touching children. His opinion about a Trump campaign released photo showing DeSantis at a party hanging out with high school kids back when he was a teacher is beyond irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Literally 2 minutes later...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
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Originally Posted by Solkern
Because I literally just looked it up for the first time because PB asked me about the Twitter files.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Both of those women say that photo was after their graduation and they are legal adults.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I know it's hard for pedophiles, like you, to tell the difference between adult women and children. That's kind of the point of the mental illness, not knowing the difference.
You're an expert now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
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Most of us were on actual social media watching it happen in real time. But you read a Rolling Stone article, which is the pinnacle of unbiased reporting, so you'd know better.
Stating information I find, doesn’t make me an expert. He stated that the government was censoring people on social media. The Twitter files show nothing of the sort, care to show me otherwise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
How did posting info about Hunters laptop break Twitter policy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
You really just pleaded ignorance? How convenient for the pro-butchering 8 year old children supporters.
Ok? So show me where the US government forced Twitter to remove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Twitter refuted the claims that it was coordinating with the US government, and told the House committee it was a mistake to remove it.
Vijaya Gadde, Twitter's former chief legal officer, echoed Roth by saying that Twitter admitted that "its initial action was wrong" and changed its policy within 24 hours.
"The New York Post chose not to delete its original tweets, so Twitter made an exception after two weeks to retroactively apply the new policy to the Post's tweets," Gadde said. "In hindsight, Twitter should have reinstated the Post account immediately."
They put it back up.
So show me proof that the US government censored the story
The part where government employees are telling twitter to block certain users.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's OK, Solkern. As long as it didn't disrupt your need to replace your sons dick with a shiny new pussy at age 8.
For real... and he used Rolling Stone as his "source."Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Yikes.
Telling and asking, are different, you know that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
You are just fucking with us at this point... right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
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Originally Posted by Solkern
What’s really funny, is that just because I’m a liberal, you think I disagree with DeSantis’s law. I actually agree with it. I don’t want my child learning any of that shit in school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Like when the connected Italian guy walks into a new shop and is like "It would sure be a shame if this place somehow got burned to the ground. Are you interested in protection?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
That's also just "asking," right?
Forcing a company to do something and asking a company to do something are completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Here’s a hint, telling means they don’t have a choice, while asking means they do.
So please tell me where the US government FORCED, Twitter to censor anyone and gave them no choice. Because both parties asked Twitter to censor and ban accounts and Twitter didn’t comply most of the time.
So show me where the Us government, issued veiled threats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You can make all of these accusations and assumptions, yet none of you have shown any proof that the US government forced Twitter to remove post or accounts.
If the US government did, in fact, force Twitter to remove accounts or ban people, can you show me a lawsuit someone has filed against the US government? Can you show me anything?
You are just fucking with us at this point... right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Thousands of accounts were silenced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Just admit you're ok with silencing the people you disagree with. The ignorance game is unbecoming of someone that wants to be considered an adult.
We know the Biden laptop articles were falsely silenced under the fake Russia bullshit. We know had it not been silenced it would have changed the outcome of the election.
Your TDS has poisoned any part of you that may have resembled a real liberal. Now you are attached at the hip with pedophiles.
So in your eyes, anything short of "We are the US government and we're totally documenting it in text that if you don't do our bidding we'll fuck you up!!!!!" = "the government didn't do anything wrong" over an issue that until you read a Rolling Stone (lol) piece like a half hour ago you somehow knew nothing about and were never on social media, primarily when people were seeing it happen in real time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Does that sounds about right?
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You could be right with DeSantis publicly stating that Disney’s outspoken objections to the so-called Don’t Say Gay bill was the motivation behind his actions. Not sure really and we’ll see how that civil suit you mentioned plays out, but legally it may have been unwise for DeSantis to state that as a motivating factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I will also say it’s unwise on the part of Disney (even though it’s perfectly legal) to take a firm position on a highly divisive political matter. It used to be understood in this country that business doesn’t mix well with politics & religion. It’s better for the bottom line to not talk about such things & pissing off half the country. Disney is not the first or only company to do that (looking at you Anheuser-Busch) but they are starting to learn this lesson as made obvious by their change in leadership awhile back. Get woke, go broke & all that…
To get back to your original question though...
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
https://eqfl.org/marriott-hilton-ame...ose-anti-lgbtqQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Over 150+ companies have spoken out against the Florida bill and other bills.
Disney faced retaliatory strikes because they are based in Florida and DeSantis has his war on woke.
AB faced backlash both on the political and public side, but none of the other companies have. I don’t see companies having any problems except when they get targeted.
But I agree, Disney should have just shut the fuck up, but they were also facing internal pressure, and this war with DeSantis is not going to hurt Disney’s bottom line.
What’s the issue? Can’t find proof? There is direct proof DeSantis did it, found it easily, it was plastered all over the media. I mean if he’s fucking stupid enough to admit it himself and put it in his memoir, all the while you and everyone else on the right say all Democratic politicians are stupid as fuck, I don’t see why you are having such a hard time finding anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
But for some reason, you and everyone else can’t seem find a single shred of evidence that definitively links, the US government silencing people on social media? Seems strange in this day and age, almost like it doesn’t exist. Not a single conservative politician, or employee at these social media companies came forward, not one democrat slipped up. Not a single one. Absolutely nothing. Not even one single anonymous, disgruntled or conservative employee saying “I feel like the US government forced us to censor the right”
You saw it play out in real time? You saw the inner workings of Twitter and other social media companies, and how they go about censoring content? You work for Twitter? Facebook?
Twitter said the government never forced them to censor anything, there is no proof, not one single piece of evidence, but because the right thinks it’s happening, it must be true? Twitter must be lying… because? They are a leftist woke company? Is that your reasoning?
You make some grand accusations because it appears to you and others on the right, that the right is being censored. Perception is a powerful tool that’s easily manipulated. And because you think that, everyone else who doesn’t think that, is 100% wrong! So how do we solve this? It’s simple, evidence, which you and everyone else on the right seem to lack.
You are the ones that are making these accusations, it’s your job to prove it, which you can’t do at all except for what you think “appears” to have happened.
How can you be so obtuse?
Love how not one response to the International Laws against genital mutilation... and how politicians, and grown adults, are pushing for it openly in the United States...
It's hard, isn't it you freaks?... When you have to actually face the fact you're about as sane as a butcher slicing genitalia off with razor blades in third world countries.
[QUOTE=Solkern;2285122 and this war with DeSantis is not going to hurt Disney’s bottom line.[/QUOTE]
Uhmm, Disney's stock in March of 21 was at $198, today it is at $101, so please tell me again how it has not impacted their bottom line?
Some friends recently went to Disneyworld for a week and they said they had never seen it so slow, and they are Florida residents so they used to go a fair amount. They say they will not be back but wanted to bring their grandkids once before they got to old. They now have season passes to Universal and Legoland. So if you think that the bottom line has not been impacted, you very mistaken.
When they ran out the previous CEO, whoever it was, and brought back Bob Iger, I thought maybe Disney would offer an olive branch to Florida and find a way to fix this riff, but instead they doubled down. As far as the lawsuit, we will see what happens, but if the Florida Legislature decides to strip Disney of all of its special provisions, which is squarely within their right to do so, then Disney will have no one to blame but themselves. It is not as if Disney is going to close up shop in Florida and move, despite what some of the idiotic talking heads have said. Disney is stuck there, it is like Crapgame said, they should have made a deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFRczUhjhU4
They just had to lay off 7000 workers.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I took the family to Disney World in December of 2019. My wife had never been, and it was a good age to take the girls. To say it politely that place is a giant money trap special level of hell.
The food sucked (themed dinner experiences do not make up for poor quality food), the lines for the rides were ridiculously long as compared to say Six Flags in my home city, and the Animal Kingdom hotel we stayed at reeked of zebra shit. We could have all went to a really nice Caribbean all-inclusive resort for less than Disney World, but what my baby wants my baby gets…
You seem to think I'm invested in this enough to spend all day googling shit just to get you to wrap your head around what most people already know. I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
And you know all this from just reading one Rolling Stone article? Impressive. Try reading the actual Twitter files instead.Quote:
But for some reason, you and everyone else can’t seem find a single shred of evidence that definitively links, the US government silencing people on social media? Seems strange in this day and age, almost like it doesn’t exist. Not a single conservative politician, or employee at these social media companies came forward, not one democrat slipped up. Not a single one. Absolutely nothing. Not even one single anonymous, disgruntled or conservative employee saying “I feel like the US government forced us to censor the right”
When you see people on the right being banned for XYZ when leftists are getting away with the same XYZ shit and worse on the same platforms, it really only requires having a pulse to see what's happening, especially when it's common knowledge that the people running said platforms lean left as it is and their entire existences have been consumed by Trump butthurt. You didn't have to work at Twitter in 2020 to see the obvious. It's not all that much different from "It's ok to go out in public during the lockdowns as long as you're protesting Trump, but if you're fishing on the beach by yourself, you go to jail." You're just parsing every syllable in a literal sense and thinking you're making some sort of point. "dO yOu WoRk FoR tWiTtEr???"Quote:
You saw it play out in real time? You saw the inner workings of Twitter and other social media companies, and how they go about censoring content? You work for Twitter? Facebook?
Granted, a lot of Twitter's selective moderation is a result of Twitter being run by cucklords at the time and not necessarily doing the government's bidding. That part hasn't been lost on me at all. Things like the Hunter laptop though, not so much, which is mainly what I'm referring to in my posts.
Oh ok. If Twitter said it, then it's gospel. Biden also said he's never been involved in Hunter's business dealings either. Does that mean Biden's never been involved in Hunter's business dealings, simply because he said so? I'd actually like to hear your answer to that specific question. You're aware that the FBI effectively had a Bat-phone with Twitter on the other end of the line, right? Or did Rolling stone "forget" to include that part?Quote:
Twitter said the government never forced them to censor anything, there is no proof, not one single piece of evidence, but because the right thinks it’s happening, it must be true? Twitter must be lying… because? They are a leftist woke company? Is that your reasoning?
The Twitter files indicate it pretty clearly. Try reading the actual Twitter files instead of summaries from shit rags like Rolling Stone. That's like reading an article about how to work for a living that Seran wrote and then taking it seriously.Quote:
You make some grand accusations because it appears to you and others on the right, that the right is being censored. Perception is a powerful tool that’s easily manipulated. And because you think that, everyone else who doesn’t think that, is 100% wrong! So how do we solve this? It’s simple, evidence, which you and everyone else on the right seem to lack.
Let's see what's happening over at Facebook...Quote:
You are the ones that are making these accusations, it’s your job to prove it, which you can’t do at all except for what you think “appears” to have happened.
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg this week told popular podcaster Joe Rogan that Facebook did limit stories on the news feed related to the New York Post story about President Biden’s son Hunter Biden and his laptop after warnings from the FBI, but defended the law enforcement agency as a “legitimate institution.
https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...e-institution/
Let's see what else is happening...
Twitter files 7.0 show FBI pressured social media platforms to ‘discredit’ Hunter Biden laptop story
https://www.wionews.com/technology/t...to-know-544882
Let me guess though...this is a "They 'asked' but didn't force!" thing?
And that's just in regards to the Hunter laptop and not even touching on Covid or whatever else, which nearly everything about the entire Covid narrative has been debunked and proven to be total bullshit too, even if Latrin is still hiding under his bed from the big mean virus.
Try reading the Twitter files instead of Rolling Stone. And instead of the links I posted too.
I would recommend starting here:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
https://i.imgur.com/n6t1cnJ.png
And for the record, I think both republicans and democrats are stupid as fuck and are overall pieces of shit. But only one side is trying to normalize things like grooming kids and chopping off dicks and tits, and that side is the worse side.
No one wants to touch your insanity, maybe you should do some self reflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Are you stating that Disney has cause for damages against the State of Florida for the loss of consortium as a result of Governor DeSantis's attempts to harm, penalize or restrict Disney's lawful ability to be do business?Quote:
Originally Posted by kutter
Yea... finally... You hate having to actually read the words of what is occurring... it's not in those nice terms you like to delude yourself with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
So now you support genital mutilation openly (your own words) in contrast to International Law, along with grooming underage children (again your own words)... as said... a fucking freak.
How's it feel to be supporting Human Rights violations?
I'm sure someone admires your rabid, deluded thought processes, but I don't buy into your attempts to misconstrue what I typed. I am worried that your fragmented view of reality might be contagious seeing some of the postings of your Conservative friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
I was there with my wife and kids January of 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
The kids enjoyed stuff, but a lot of things changed since the wife and I had been there in 2006 (I think that was the year) and even more so since I went when I was little back in '88.
When I was 8, the one thing I really remember was dinner with the characters. The wife thought I was silly and thought it was stupid, but when we went there in '06 or so, she surprised me with letting me know she booked a dinner with the characters for us. She thought it was going to be dumb, but she really enjoyed it. The characters had banter between each other, they interacted with all the guests (mostly the kids), did silly antics and made the atmosphere very enjoyable. The food was really good, too. It was at a high rated restaurant and it was a 5 course meal. The wife enjoyed it more than she thought she would have and we were both excited to take the our kids when we went as a family.
Dinner with the characters is no longer in a quality sit down restaurant, they're only held in a buffet style place. The food sucked, you can get better food at Kwik Trip gas stations. The characters only walked around and did pictures with the kids, they didn't interact with each other doing silly antics....just meandered around between tables, took a lot of pictures and vanished. It was a huge disappointment to my wife and me, but my kids only being 5 and 9 at the time, they thought it was great.
One park we got some beverages at a food stand, a soft pretzel and some other snack - cost was almost $60. I'm glad I got my kids out there so they could experience things, but with how fucking expensive it was that was a one time thing. I'll never be back, especially since I've learned they dropped the Fast Pass (when we went we could setup times to use the Fast Pass for a handful of rides a day) and picked up some other program where you pay extra to book "Fast Pass" type slots. Already paying to get into the park, now you can pay more to bypass lines....that's just greedy as fuck.
My brother is on the fence about dropping Disney+ due to all this shit going on. I told him he should since there's not much on there worth watching.
I was like 8 (would have been 91) when I was there last and don’t remember much on the character dinners. Our dinner experiences were exactly as you described though. My kids did love it but I thought it sucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by drumpel
What we did, pro tip, and I’ll admit this is a morally questionable…my kids are legit diagnosed with ADHD. They get it from me. You can talk to park services and say your kid has a medical condition where they are unable to wait in long lines. They give you something like a Fast Pass for that. I wasn’t lying when i said the lines were ridiculously long but we did avoid that part. The park was just so crowded, the service sucked, and everything was super expensive for to me what was a subpar experience. I never want to go back. It’s for the kids, and my wife wanted to go. I’m just a dad trying to give the kids a good childhood and what I guess my wife missed out when she was a child…but fuck that place is such a rip off.
It's baseball season, so MLB TV is where my streaming money goes.. (well i still do netflix) but, I liked paramount+ and will probably go to that again in the fall since I can find most football games already.Quote:
Originally Posted by drumpel
Just stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
DeSantis and the republicans are at it again, breaking the law.
Ron DeSantis is expected to sign a bill that would void Walt Disney World’s development agreement with a special district overseeing the theme parks and resorts, the latest move in a bitter battle between the company and the governor.
The state House of Representatives on Wednesday passed a land use bill, in a 75-34 vote, that would essentially invalidate Disney’s agreement with the Reedy Creek Improvement District in February, when the special district was still under the company’s control. The bill will have a final Senate before going to DeSantis for his signature.
This is unconstitutional. Article 1 Section 10. "No State shall ... pass any ... Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts." To make matters worse for the GOP, this is a contract between Disney and Reedy Creek, not Disney and the State of Florida.
Government has no business interfering with a legal contract between 2 private parties.
If this passes, it’ll be destroyed in court.
Hardly surprised, Florida has literally thrown the entirety of the First Amendment out the window. When their attempt to legislate a 'redo' of their attempt to assert a tribunal over the administration of Walt Disney World gets challenged in court, and it will, they'll have to show a legitimate public purpose to overcome the Contracts Clause of the First Amendment. DeSantis is going to fall flat when his team tries to argue political retribution as an execution of the public charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Sounds like you know you won’t find anything. The government violating the first amendment is a pretty big deal and evidence should be easily found.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You keep mentioning this rolling stone’s article. I posted one thing they said, that was a part of Twitter and politics article I read, going into detail about what was in the Twitter files.Quote:
And you know all this from just reading one Rolling Stone article? Impressive. Try reading the actual Twitter files instead.
I never read their article.
LolQuote:
When you see people on the right being banned for XYZ when leftists are getting away with the same XYZ shit and worse on the same platforms, it really only requires having a pulse to see what's happening, especially when it's common knowledge that the people running said platforms lean left as it is and their entire existences have been consumed by Trump butthurt. You didn't have to work at Twitter in 2020 to see the obvious. It's not all that much different from "It's ok to go out in public during the lockdowns as long as you're protesting Trump, but if you're fishing on the beach by yourself, you go to jail." You're just parsing every syllable in a literal sense and thinking you're making some sort of point. "dO yOu WoRk FoR tWiTtEr???"
Obviously it is lost on you, because you keep ignoring this fact and spouting nonsense about it has to be political! The right is being censored!Quote:
Granted, a lot of Twitter's selective moderation is a result of Twitter being run by cucklords at the time and not necessarily doing the government's bidding. That part hasn't been lost on me at all. Things like the Hunter laptop though, not so much, which is mainly what I'm referring to in my posts.
If anyone on the right says it, it’s seems to be gospel for you? I’d rather take direct information from Twitter during an oversight committee than random people on the news and random people screaming CENSOR!Quote:
Oh ok. If Twitter said it, then it's gospel. Biden also said he's never been involved in Hunter's business dealings either. Does that mean Biden's never been involved in Hunter's business dealings, simply because he said so? I'd actually like to hear your answer to that specific question. You're aware that the FBI effectively had a Bat-phone with Twitter on the other end of the line, right? Or did Rolling stone "forget" to include that part?
Once again you keep mentioning this Rolling Stones article when the post I posted provided one thing they said. If you actually really my post, you would have realized it wasn’t a Rolling Stones article at all.Quote:
The Twitter files indicate it pretty clearly. Try reading the actual Twitter files instead of summaries from shit rags like Rolling Stone. That's like reading an article about how to work for a living that Seran wrote and then taking it seriously.
So now it’s the FBI controlled by the government, censoring free speech, when the fbi, Twitter, and Facebook all under oath or the threat of perjury(I believe), refuted this claim, that they were forced in any way to censor this story. But of course they are lying right? Everyone is lying right? Everyone that doesn’t fit your conspiracy theory is lying! Because that is what you are saying.Quote:
Let's see what's happening over at Facebook...
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg this week told popular podcaster Joe Rogan that Facebook did limit stories on the news feed related to the New York Post story about President Biden’s son Hunter Biden and his laptop after warnings from the FBI, but defended the law enforcement agency as a “legitimate institution.
The FBI already went on record regarding this, and it’s nothing like you said they didn’t force, or pressure anyone to do anything, Twitter also went on record.Quote:
Let's see what else is happening...
Twitter files 7.0 show FBI pressured social media platforms to ‘discredit’ Hunter Biden laptop story
Let me guess though...this is a "They 'asked' but didn't force!" thing?
But let me guess, they are ALL lying right?
That seems to be a consistent thing from you, everyone is lying that doesn’t follow the narrative that you believe happened.
FBI disputes it? LIARS! Twitter, Facebook dispute it? LIARS! The oversight committee found nothing? LIARS!
Some random dude sitting is his basement screaming I was censored? TRUTH!
Like seriously, it doesn’t matter what evidence, they have, it doesn’t matter who says it, they will be lying.
For example, if every single Republican on the planet, and Twitter and Facebook and everyone else gave you full access to everything, and they said there was no censorship and after you go through everything and find nothing, you would still be shouting censorship!
And only one side based on indisputable evidence and fact is violating the first amendment over and over again, and that would be DeSantis and the republicans.Quote:
And for the record, I think both republicans and democrats are stupid as fuck and are overall pieces of shit. But only one side is trying to normalize things like grooming kids and chopping off dicks and tits, and that side is the worse side.
But keep believing there was a massive censorship going on, your choice my friend.
Do you even know what Reedy Creek is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Disney has been pulling some shady shit for decades with this special zone. It's about time the State steps in and rights the wrongs of SIX DECADES ago.
It's long overdue.
Just quoting that for when this "INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE AND FACT" is found to be a load of trash and the State of Florida wins in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
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Originally Posted by Solkern
TLDR: "If some guy mugs me, it's not really a mugging as long as he ASKS me for my wallet!"
I DGAF what happens here. I like Disney movies, hate Disney Land and World.
"Some random dude sitting in his basement"Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Except it was thousands of people that were silenced. It was mainstream journalists that were silenced. It was researchers and doctors that were silenced.
Solkern: "They're all lying, the government never lies. Trust your government!"
You probably should have stayed in Russia, it's a government that aligns with your style of thought process.
Some heavy lifting you've done here to expose the Constitutional violations by the DeSantis government in Florida, but you should be aware you're just jumping through hoops to satisfy the unquenchable thirst those idiots have for wasting your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Your arrogance over how smart and enlightened you think you are when you're literally the dumbest person to ever post on the PC and have been wrong 100% of the time you post about anything is pretty great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
It's like if time4fun had a legitimately retarded and completely uneducated little brother who spent 3/4 of his life trying to suck his own dick.
https://media.tenor.com/DKB4fw7EACwA...ue-correct.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You spent a great deal of time on that MacGayver...
But it's true: Leftists can't meme.
https://i.imgur.com/sclczXf.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Reference a comedian who describes himself as a cum pig, that likes cock in his mouth, and the pedophiles on PC come out of the woodwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
That's a weird thing to say, bro. You think about a lot of weird stuff TBHQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
DeSantis in his own memoir stated he retaliated against Disney because they spoke out against his law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
That’s called admitting to violating the first amendment. You know this right?
Even when they first introduced the bill, the dude said this bill is directed at Disney and only Disney.
There are over 1800 special districts in Florida just like Disney, including the Daytona speed way. DeSantis really wants to change these special districts huh? Yet he only targets one specific company that spoke out against him, and not any other one. And has brought it up multiple times in interviews and during his campaigning that he specifically is targeting Disney and only Disney.
DeSantis: I targeted Disney when did retaliatory actions against them and only them because they spoke in opposition to my bill.
PB: DeSantis admitting himself that his actions against Disney are violating the first amendment is not enough evidence. I NEED MORE!!
I’ve always wanted to go to Disney world, never had a chance. Went to California, it was decent, Hong Kong was a dumpster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Waiting till my little one is 5-6, and planning a nice week in Disney world with the family.
My wife saw the wedding photos in front of Cinderella’s castle, and she’s like we should have a wedding in America!
I get that you have issues with knowing what "debt" is and what "deficit" is.. but I thought you at least knew how to quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
SPOILER: My post you quoted had absolutely nothing to do with DeSantis, you retard.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Sorry, I flew from NYC to Raleigh this morning, you know that jet lag? You know, flying north to south in the same time zone? It’s killing me.
And I was on that page reading, and didn’t feel like going back to find your post to quote you. Call it lazy and suffering from jet lag.
Is that why someone who claims he is in the "financial sector" has such confusion with simple concepts like "debt" and "deficit"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Also, I just call it lazy from being a retard.
SPOILER: Being the janitor at the bank doesn't mean you are employed in the "financial sector"...
Oh so I misspoke, wow you got me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Tell me again about all this jet lag people get from flying in the same time zone. I’m still interested in that.
Still fucking hilarious, claiming trump suffered from jet lag while flying in the same time zone, how fucking stupid do you have to be to not even understand the basic concept of jet lag.
Anyone who is really in the financial sector and has been for years, would not be that lax with words like debt and deficit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Someone who has no idea what they are would.. not someone who works in finance for a living.
So either you're full of shit.. or you are so bad at your job you just throw terms around you don't understand.
Either way.. I laughed at your retardation and bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Of course! I know it’s completely foreign to you, but people don’t these forums seriously, something that you seem to do.
I’m still waiting, can you tell me more about jet lag? I mean someone who is “successful” like you claim to be, shouldn’t be stupid enough to not know the basic concepts of jet lag, or have an issue with the usage of “you’re” and “your” that you can’t seem to grasp or understand the differences between the two.
It’s quite funny that you call people stupid when you don’t even know what jet lag is or the differences between “you’re” and “your”.
All this silly banter... while people on these forums, grown ass adults, and politicians in this country continue to break International Law by cutting off kids genitals.
Not surprising no one wants to really address it... hard to get that image out of your head isn't it... truth hurts. It's not "transitioning"... it's mutilating children.
Just say it... you support cutting off kids dicks and sewing up little girls. What's so hard about saying what's actually happening, if you support it? You can't say it, because you know it's wrong. You fucking freaks.
Keep ignoring it... you know you're in the wrong and supporting Human Right's Violations...
Every one of you should be exposed for the shit you espouse... fucking can't stand people like you.
My daughter is starting her transition tomorrow! I’m super excited for her! She likes to play with trucks and cars. She’s obviously really a boy inside, so I’m going to continue to push this path that she has chosen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Today we are taking her shopping and we’re going to buy a bunch of boy clothing and more boy toys so I can say that I’m a good father and I’m encouraging her to be what she really wants to be!
I fully believe that a three year old is old enough to make that decision!
That's awesome! Everything except the transition part. Once she hits 18, and can legally consent as an adult to it, go for it I say!Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
But that's cool if she enjoys and leans towards boy stuff now, and that you support it.
No, we are doing it now, she’s 3, she’s 100% old enough to understand what she really wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Fuckkk... you got me. Good one lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Dude, honestly speaking, Democrats and Republicans do not want to mutilate their children. Maybe some crazy ultra ultra super left crazy fucking people who belong in a mental hospital do, but the vast majority are against it, in both parties.
I fully agree... only it's not the majority that is making these decisions. It's a small minority wielding power in positions of Government supporting it. And that is the fucked up part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
The silencing, pushback, and antagonizing of people that vocally oppose such things is extremely tough... when the ones controlling the levers tighten them down.
Examples - From the FUCKING WHITE HOUSE - March 31, 2023:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...der-americans/
"Reinforcing federal protections for transgender kids. The Justice Department announced today that it has issued a letter to all state attorneys general reminding them of federal constitutional and statutory provisions that protect transgender youth against discrimination, including when those youth seek gender-affirming care."
So you tell me? If our Government is supporting it... am I the crazy one? Or everyone else thinking it's so batshit crazy... it could never happen.
The morons out there support this shit... and all the good, normal people are busy working not paying attention... and in the interim, it's getting normalized.
But hey... everything's fine.
But that has nothing to do with supporting mutilation of children? It’s about protecting children against discrimination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
I personally agree with DeSantis. I don’t think sexual orientation should be taught in school. It’s my job as a parent to teach my child this. It’s also my job as a parent to understand that children don’t have a fucking clue about anything.
I sure as hell don’t want a teacher to push their views on my child, that’s not their fucking job.
Children are exceptionally impressionable.
Are you missing the mutilation of children part that I highlighted????Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
This is how they get people like you... using nice words... see that term "gender-affirming care"? What do you think that means?
Because what it means is letting children get their dicks chopped off and sewing up a little girls vagina... that's exactly what it is... not some sweet, little catch phrase.
Yes, I saw it and all they said was do not discriminate against these children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Also... you think your concerns as a parent matter?
https://nypost.com/2023/04/17/washin...ental-consent/
"Washington bill to allow medical transgender interventions on minors without parental consent"
"A Washington State bill that would strip parents’ rights to intervene on their kids medical care in certain circumstances passed the House Wednesday, clearing its pathway to being signed by Gov. Jay Inslee."
They're going to cut your kid up whether you like it or not... you need to stop trying to rationalize this, or think it's something it's not... You should really open your eyes to what's going on.
Edit: And it even says in the article... "For minors, “affirming care” typically included puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones and surgeries. It was unclear which services would be approved under the bill."
So see? The White House supports mutilating your child without your consent... You get it yet?
No.. they said they "SUPPORT GENDER-AFFIRMING CARE"... that means... they support CHOPPING YOUR KIDS NUTS OFF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Look man.. I'm showing you exactly what they're doing... you, along with the rest who think it can't happen because it's so insane... and buy into these nice sounding phrases... well... the rest of us paying attention get to live in the insanity being created.
Yay us!
It’s right there in your own post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Do not discriminate against them, I’m not sure how you misunderstood what they said?
It’s pretty clear. “Don’t discriminate against transgender children, or those that are seeking gender affirming care.”.
You... are about to enter Seran levels of idiocy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Dude it literally says protect kids from discrimination. Including those that are seeking gender, affirming care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
It does not say they support kids going to gender affirming care, they are saying DON’T DISCRIMINATE.
Except trying to get them back into reality is probably considered "discrimination" because...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Those ultra ultra super left crazy fucking people who belong in a mental hospital have for the most part hijacked the democrat party though. Any sane ones that might be left will be dealt with by the mental illness crowd accordingly over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
That reminds me of this and how I've never been so disappointed to see a video not end with violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BRubqbt1Kg
Only non-commentary version I could find was a short, which don't embed here. Because shorts are stupid and retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aLsLH4QFeBk
"Confirming that gender-affirming care is trauma-informed care. The National Child Traumatic Stress Network (NCTSN), which is administered by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, is releasing new information for providers confirming that providing gender-affirming care is neither child maltreatment nor malpractice."
There you go... in black and white... against International Law... the White House is openly supporting "gender-affirming care"... which is a nicely worded genital mutilation of a child.
You really are close to Seran levels here... please just stop... thinking people out there are as blind and stubborn as you are is fucking disheartening.
Was that information in your original post, of the information you posted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
"Confirming the positive impact of gender affirming care on youth mental health. The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) has posted LGBTQI+ Youth – Like All Americans, They Deserve Evidence-Based Care, in which Miriam Delphin-Rittmon, Ph.D., HHS Assistant Secretary for Mental Health and Substance Use and the leader of SAMHSA, shares how to engage LGBTQI+ youth, the evidence behind the positive effects of gender affirming care, and available resources for LGBTQI+ youth, their families, providers, community organizations, and government agencies."
Lying! This is such a new phenomenon... because for time immemorial cutting children up was seen as abhorrent... there are absolutely ZERO long term studies on the effects of mass mutilation of children... but here they are... sounding all nice...
People are fucking insane... and the fact this bullshit is occurring speaks to that.
READ THE WHITE HOUSE LETTER I SUPPLIED YOU!Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
It's not a surprise I link stuff and people don't read the insanity. I'm not going to copy + paste everything.. but apparently that's what people need these days...
Fucking social media corrupted brains and the attention span of fucking gnats.
People are so overly sensitive these days. Fucking cry babies everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I’m sick of this whole transgender shit, it’s literally a waste of time and we have more important things to do for our country than to satisfy a bunch of bitchesQuote:
Those ultra ultra super left crazy fucking people who belong in a mental hospital have for the most part hijacked the democrat party though. Any sane ones that might be left will be dealt with by the mental illness crowd accordingly over time.
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That reminds me of this and how I've never been so disappointed to see a video not end with violence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BRubqbt1Kg
Only non-commentary version I could find was a short, which don't embed here. Because shorts are stupid and retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aLsLH4QFeBk
Just what the fuck? It would’ve taken everything in me not to hit the guy in the face.
I’m at work and I don’t have time to read a full blown article, you copy and pasted what you thought was the most important part, did you not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Read it yourself if you want... done hand holding. I've given you the information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Hopefully your kid at 10 doesn't get a hairbrained idea... go without you knowing and get cut up by some Doctor in a State that's allowing this insanity... because you know what? You won't have any recourse to contest it... because they made it legal.
I really feel for the families this is going to affect.
Dude, listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
You posted a link, claiming that the government supports gender mutilation. OK got it.
Then you copy and pasted something from that article that supposedly supports your claim. But what you copied and pasted didn’t support your claim at all…as it was talking about protecting against discrimination.
Can you see the issue here? You copy and pasted the wrong thing.
Then you expect me to go through this entire wall of text to find what you were talking about when you could’ve just copy and pasted it in the first place.
No... I copied the correct thing.. and told you what "gender-affirming care" is... and you thought you knew better because it sounds nice... and that's how they get this insanity through...Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Because people listen to the nice words... instead of actually paying attention to what those words stand for.
Not my fault you don't understand what "gender-affirming care" is... and once again... FYI... it means "supporting mutilation of your kids without parental consent"...
But hey... get hung up on what I linked... even though what I linked was the actual White House documentation... not sure how much more easy I can make it for you.
Also... done responding... read it for yourself... not going to get sidetracked by some meaningless point... when the point is the freaks out there supporting this insanity.
Why do all the liberals here fight tooth and nail to allow pedophilia in our schools? I just don't get it.
Dude should have knocked him out and then pressed charges for felony theft worth over $500.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Unless he's some cheap asshole and bought the ring from QVC or some shit.
The guy got permission from Disney beforehand to do it on that stage too.
Gender affirming care does not mean supporting, in the way you think it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Gender affirming care means providing emotional support or whatever to someone who is already going through a gender, change or whatever
Supporting gender affirming care, means what you think it means.
Words matter.
Just FYI gender-affirming care is a pretty broad term, it can mean a lot of things. For example, this is technically gender-affirming care:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOAXuNp8M0o
I wonder how Disney hook them up for this shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Last time saying anything... because I can't believe you're this fucking dumb... you are part of the millions of morons out there if that's what you got from the direct quotes and comments released by the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
This country deserves what's coming to it. Thank god I'll be dead before it goes through the full fall. I got to live during the best iteration of any Country ever in the history of the world... I'll take solace in that.
Your own post dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
It has nothing to do with the White House supporting and encouraging children, to go to gender affirming care.
You specifically posted that the White House is making sure that people do not discriminate against children that are going to gender affirming care.
Words matter.
All I found was that Disney apologized and "offered to make it right."Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Dude most likely got fired over it for being a little bitch, even by Disney's standards.
https://i.imgur.com/ndxoz1e.pngQuote:
The video, posted on Reddit's "I Am a Total Piece of S**t" forum, has been upvoted over 85,000 times. It is titled, "POS destroyed my best friend's moment. He asked for permission beforehand."
https://www.newsweek.com/internet-sl...oposal-1712658
https://media.tenor.com/kYBbjTE953sA...take-drink.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I hope his ass did get fired, and his ass kicked in the parking lot after workQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://i.imgur.com/lVy5hsN.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Hey, isn’t this that men’s seminar you were talking about a few years back that you got “free” tickets for after receiving your 10,000th shot for your low T problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
??? Is this directed at me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
No. It was directed at the other cuck commie who advocates for the mutilation of children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
Yes.
Edit: Welcome back to the politics thread buddy.
You ok bud? You got some meds you need to take? None of what you're saying is remotely related to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I’m good man. Bro you’re making me look like a chump & acting like we don’t know each other…Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
It’s been awhile, but didn’t we use to argue/debate back in the day? Are you not that cuck commie that talked about your low T problem and admitted some other dude was banging your wife & you love to watch? You stopped posting in politics out of embarrassment. I sent you some rep months ago (green I think) where you posted in the game threads saying something like “it’s cool bro come back to politics.”. It has been a year or two, but I do remember…
Either that or I really got to lay off the peyote.
Not quite Chappelle Show but reminds me of:
https://y.yarn.co/a0ada4f4-a8dd-4319...bb23b_text.gif
You definitely have me confused with someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
If you actually have a connection for peyote, would you be so kind as to hit me up in a PM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
You want to get really really high and have that great feeling last? You gotta love Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
But seriously now I’m worried…. My dad legit died of dementia last year and it could be genetic. Didn’t Flap use to post all the time in the politics thread, has stopped now for about a year(ish), and isn’t he both a leftist & a cuckold?
I don't post about my sex life anymore because it's upsetting to SHM, but I'll say you're partially correct in this post :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
No, I have just had a fascination with psychedelic's since I first read Koolaid Acid Test in high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Peyote is the one psychedelic that has always remained out of reach. It's also the most interesting case study in the Koolaid Acid test.
If it was about getting high, I'm very capable of manufacturing my own LSD.
https://youtu.be/0waUmU3dd0E
Got to love Samson calling it like it is.
Gotta love, all the republicans saying, it’s about time DeSantis stands up to Disney!
Not even two years ago…
DeSantis helped Disney before he decided to fight the company
But here’s the problem for DeSantis: as governor, he was also a purveyor of indefensible corporate welfare to Disney itself. In 2021, DeSantis signed a political anti-discrimination statute that penalized companies for engaging in viewpoint-based censorship on the internet. This was a signature piece of legislation in his anti-woke crusade, but the law specifically exempts companies in Florida that own a theme park larger than 25 acres. Disney’s internet properties and streaming services were exempted from a statute that was designed to stem corporate "wokeness" in Florida.
DeSantis’ own director of legislative affairs lobbied for the Disney loophole. DeSantis’ chief budget officer, policy chief and his then-general counsel also worked behind the curtain to change the terms of the bill to create the special carveout for Disney. Several lawmakers who voted in favor of that law had received campaign contributions from Disney.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ron-desan...091326349.html
DeSantis: we need to stop all these special privileges that Disney has gotten, even though I helped disney get them because they donated to me!
The hypocrisy is off the charts.
You sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
Sounds exactly what a beta cuck would say...Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
Flap = macgyver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
IIRC, it was the last time he showed up here again for a few days that he randomly decided he was never macgyver, despite actually being macgyver and acknowledging being a cuck who makes gay porn or whatever stupid shit.
He's still 948723943290472034x less retarded than Seran though. Mainly because he's trolling, whereas Seran is dead serious with every retarded thing he posts.
Actually, he said his dream job was to break into gay porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Pretty sure he said at some point that he achieved his dream. And then something about buying a house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oz8x...VFtu/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
He was unable to break into his dream job and therefore was forced to rent in California.
I will accept your forthcoming apology because I am as gracious as I am humble.
Don't make me tap the sign.
https://i.imgur.com/sclczXf.png
Also tapping this sign for most of this thread:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqM8jKdacAAlx_W.jpg
"I'm totally not macgyver guys! The fact that I act exactly like him is just a coincidence, I don't even know who macgyver is!!!" -macgyver
Wow did he say that? Huge if true TBHQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Alright. It’s tough keeping up with all the alts, but at least I know I’m not crazy… Flap used to post in here & then stopped.
Glad to have you back!
It's really not, this is legit the only PC account I've ever had but whoever MacGuyer is earned a permanent dwelling in these fools' brains. Must've been a powerful poster!Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I’m more inclined to believe them since you already lied about being that cuck commie with the low T problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
https://media4.giphy.com/media/4npJY4piIW7Nm/giphy.gif
As the resident commie here, I take offense to that, we got standards, low but we got them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I do use the term commie in a very broad encompassing way to include so called progressives, but I find you to be neither a commie nor retarded as your tag line implies. You seem to be what I consider a left leaning liberal. Still misguided for sure, but we can find about as much stuff that we generally agree on as we do disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I'm a moderate, middle of the road kind of guy. I tend to vote based on the platform, rather than the party.
Democrats have done some great good, and republicans have done some great good. And both parties have done some seriously fucked up shit, so its a tossup right now who I would vote for president, or even governor.
Personally, I think Disney is being wrongheaded about their policies, but I think Desantis is a rabid ass-licker, too, so I'm torn on the issue at hand.
You've been here since 2014.. but you don't know who MacGuyver is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
OK, MacGuyver... whatever you say.
Pretending that that's really the case for a minute, that should be cause for you to do some self reflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
In no more than 5 years, which is me being generous, Solkern will be considered an alt-right extremist Nazi bigot by the left. Not because he moved right, but because the left will have moved so much further left by then that anything to the right of Mao will be considered extreme right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Still sounds like you're confusing me with some other guy. IDK what to tell ya hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I've been known to take long breaks, both from both Gemstone and PC. You should try it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Dear MacGuyver;Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
I've been on an extended break from Gemstone IV since 2005. Went back a couple of times, but that lasted maybe a week or two at the most.
Thank you for your concern.
Same story but 2012 for me. I’ve tried but it just doesn’t hold the same appeal even with the nostalgia. The game has changed and I have too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
2005 was the perfect storm of really bad decisions by Simutronics. War of Nations pissed off a lot of veterans just as World of Warcraft took over the entire MMO market and SIMU was a day late and a dollar short on Heroes Journey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
"A day late and a dollar short" should be Simu's slogan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain