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Looks like Liz Cheney is fucked for re-election.
I think almost all the Republican traitors either are gonna lose their primary, retired, or are being drawn out of their district.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Sometimes good things do happen.
The irony is lost on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Kevin McCarthy is doing his best impression of Wormtail to Trump's Valdamort praising his master, lol. Fox News has been desperately pushing its the only truthful source on January 6th. Laughably sad.
Democrats are broken up over Cheney's fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
It is now a matter of Congressional Record, public record for the first time in our history a u.s. president tried to overthrow a government and Stage a violent coup
Reminder: A far left terrorist, under indirect (or direct in some cases) orders from Democrat politicians, planned to murder a sitting US supreme court justice, and was arrested near his home armed with several weapons and other tactical gear.
This far left insurrectionist terrorist joins other far left terrorists such as the Bernie Sanders supporters who shot several Republican congressmen during a charity baseball game.
Settle down, Sparky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
The only thing I have learned thus far is that a buck ten Barbie has no business playing security guard.
You are so brokenQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
The fact the Proud Boys were not only given an after hours tour by a member of the Republican caucus to confirm the layout, but the fact 250-300 of them were already setup and on site to breach the Capital before Trump's speech even started is the critical piece of evidence that'll be the organizers downfall.
I'm just saying it how it is. Barbie couldn't stop a terrorist let alone stand up in a windstorm.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Remember back in 2017 when Democrats started rioting and torching business's in DC, during the inauguration. If you recall, I said that was the end of the "Peaceful transfer of power."Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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All Democrats in 2020 - "Most safe and secure election ever!"
Democrats in 2022/24 - "The upcoming elections could be illegitimate unless we federalize elections!"
Fucking morons, and morons following them.
It seems hard for some "people" to understand that if it had been an actual attempted coup there would have been hundreds of thousands of deaths. I have never seen a coup attempt where technically 1 person(yes i know supposedly 9) died. Coups are bloody and awful. So no, there was no attempted coup.
Already making shit up huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
That's what the Democrats don't seem to understand, they are overplaying their hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
Even tonight's presentation was terrible. The first 15 minutes was drivel that probably lost viewership because of boredom.
Uh huh. You mean a planned conspiracy to cause a rejection of the January 6th certification ballot by breach of the capital by violent white nationalists who assaulted officers, led to several deaths and tens of millions in damage, followed by a planned a declaration of marshal law, seizure of voting machines to corrupt evidence, followed by your party then forcing Congress to supercede the electoral college to keep you in power isn't a coup? You're an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
The only one having a seizure here is you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Look, you can call it whatever you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
But can you at least bring yourself to acknowledge that Trump and a big chunk of the Republican party tried to overthrow our democracy and stay in power despite the election results?
And is there any particular reason why you wouldn't take that seriously?
Actually, no you can't. That's not how words, language or communication works.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
It's ok for you to choose to live in your deranged world of imagination, however, you can't demand that people join in your delusions.
Perhaps I am an idiot, however I am not delusional like you. Also you make me laugh. BLM and all the leftist damage that was done to cities over was it 2019-2020 or whever was 10 to 100 times more damage. Also I need to not talk to you as you are obviously insaneQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I can't acknowledge that. I believe if Trump and the Republicans were truly trying to overthrow the government, we would be talking about a lot more then one January 6th. I can acknowledge that people did stupid things on January 6th, but people do stupid things all the time. Part of the reason America is so messed up right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Even Ivanka Trump said there was no voter fraud. To all those that claim there was some sort of mass voter fraud… or is she also a traitor and a secret democrat?
I don't make things up... your jackass leaders do...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Biden: "Oh, 2022. I mean, imagine if those attempts to say that the count was not legit. You have to recount it and we're not going to count -- we're going to discard the following votes. I mean, sure, but -- I'm not going to say it's going to be legit. It's -- the increase and the prospect of being illegitimate is in direct proportion to us not being able to get these -- these reforms passed."
He's essentially saying... "if we can't rig it and win, then it's illegitimate"... that's why they don't want people to show an ID to vote, when you literally have to have an ID for everything else in life.
Actually, that's not what happened. (But you know that, don't you)Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
What had happened was, she asked if they could agree that BLANK occurred, while removing a potentially incendiary label for BLANK in order to encourage civil discourse. It's like if I called your mom a whore for fucking Benny the pimp, and we got into an argument about it. And then I attempted to get you back into the realm of civil discourse by removing the whore label from your mom, while trying to get your agreement that her fucking Benny the Pimp was a dick move. It's not at all what you said. Demanding that people join you in your delusions. It's rather far from a demand. It's rather polite actually, even if your mother is a whore.
Reminder: A far left terrorist, under indirect (or direct in some cases) orders from Democrat politicians, planned to murder a sitting US supreme court justice, and was arrested near his home armed with several weapons and other tactical gear.
This far left insurrectionist terrorist joins other far left terrorists such as the Bernie Sanders supporters who shot several Republican congressmen during a charity baseball game.
You should probably actually prove your assertion before continuing to spam it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Reminder: The Democrats and the media spent 4 years trying to make people believe that the Russians overturned an election and buried information that showed their candidate inserted bogus evidence in an attempt to overturn an election.
Like we were supposed to take the Russian collusion seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Like we were supposed to take the Ukraine call seriously?
Like we were supposed to take "Jim Crow 2.0" voting bill in Georgia seriously?
Don't you ever get tired of being a useful idiot for the Democrat Party? Is there a single thing you questioned coming from the Democrats ever?
You are missed around here. You should post more and demand a title match with Seran.
Do you think Trump told people to go riot at the Capitol though? Asking for Seran's mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Actually, using hyperbole is Time4newspeak's modus operandi. She is quite willing to vilify anyone that doesn't accept her insanity as reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Just one, of many, examples is her insistence that men can breastfeed and if you don't believe in this insanity you are literally Hitler incarnate.
Wrong. Your dog whistling to this issue is pretty disgusting. You're equating protests or riots, some of them for progressive causes which caused thousands in damage and out of roughly 9,000 mostly peaceful protests after the George Floyd murder, to a criminal conspiracy to obstruct the Constitutional transfer of power in the United States by invading the capital and attempting to assault members of Congress.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
The twats in the Right are foaming at the mouth calling for police to protect Supreme Court Justices, after some loser reported he had bad thoughts. Fine. But Republicans are fucking silent after people /died/ during an attempted coup led by a Donald Trump.
lol drama queenQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Emphasis on queen.
"Proud Boys were already set up and ready to go before Trump's speech!" -SeranQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
"The riot happened because Trump told them to storm the Capitol during his speech!" -Also Seran
The problem with these democrats is that they really believe literally everyone is an extremely retarded and gullible NPC like Seran is and that Twitter is representative of real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Right, because going in unarmed is totally how you overthrow governments.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Stop being so retarded all the time.
Meanwhile, as this prime time debacle is blasted around the world, further damaging the reputation of the United States globally: inflation numbers came in hotter than expected today, all but guaranteeing a recession, and consumer sentiment came in a staggering 8 points below expectation. Markets are crashing and costs are skyrocketing, glad we have politicians in makeup to watch on TV to make us forget these things!
Priorities, right?
Stop trying to detract from the fact that a far left terrorist, under indirect (or direct in some cases) orders from Democrat politicians, planned to murder a sitting US supreme court justice, and was arrested near his home armed with several weapons and other tactical gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Kavanaugh should just invest in bulletproof backpacks and doors, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Darn Trump! Ruining our lives 2 years after leaving office!Quote:
Originally Posted by Furryrat
Only Seran would use the term "mostly peaceful protests" unironically. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You're literally the most brain dead person who has ever posted here. And that's really saying something.
It's funny that people think this is some kind of "gotcha!" moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
No one, and I feel the need to repeat this for the slow people, NO ONE, has ever suggested we beef up security in schools then if there is a credible threat or an active shooting we do nothing about it and let the school fend for themselves.
We (well Republicans, not so much Democrats these days) still believe in good police work to arrest dangerous people BEFORE they can commit heinous crimes, suggesting we make schools more secure doesn't mean we stop arresting evil people before they can do evil.
Stop trying to be dumber than Seran, it ain't gonna happen.
Great police work is defined by arresting parents trying to get to their kidsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Hey I'm not defending the Ulvalde police department in this situation. Like I said, GOOD police work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Liz Cheney Reads Trump Tweet From January 6, Skips "Go Home With Love And In Peace"
She also selectively edited a video of a witness' testimony because the omitted testimony was actually favorable to Trump and provided context.Quote:
Rep. Liz Cheney read out a Trump tweet from the afternoon of January 6 where the president said: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long."
Next, she continued, skipping when the president wrote: "Go home with love & peace. Remember this day forever!"
These sham hearings are a joke. They aren't actually questioning witnesses live on the air or provided whole pieces of evidence, instead they are just selecting the parts of testimony and evidence that they like and broadcasting that. What a complete joke that only idiots such as Seran and time4fun would fall for.
In other news: A far left terrorist, under indirect (or direct in some cases) orders from Democrat politicians, planned to murder a sitting US supreme court justice, and was arrested near his home armed with several weapons and other tactical gear.
Private business owner: Why did you burn down my car dealership?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Seran: Because a black recidivist was killed while resisting arrest.
Private business owner:
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Yeah, didn't think so. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
My thoughts and prayers are with Kavanaugh and his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
These are really sleek tho:
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I highly doubt that. You would probably be laughing if Kavanaugh and his family were murdered. You're that disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
This is how stupid Shaft's argument is: it's a shame that fire drills, smoke detectors, and fire extinguishers are a thing. We should just outlaw anything combustible.
I was wondering why I barely heard any news about the protester who was tackled by police after they charged into Biden's motorcade. I kept thinking "Okay...where are all of the headlines screeching how this person is a dangerous far right extremist who put Biden's life in danger?"
Well wonder no more! It turns out the reason the media is burying this story is because the protester is a far leftist who was protesting for more abortions.
Add this one to the growing list of violent left wing terrorist insurrectionists.
No, I’m glad they caught the guy. I don’t wish harm upon anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I think kavanaugh lied to Congress during his confirmation hearing about multiple things but he shouldn’t be harmed for it.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
The day Republicans get this upset over dead school kids is the day the country may be getting somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Found the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
Stop lying on this forum.
I'm very upset at children being killed at school, I'm also very upset at Democrats who refuse to do anything to make schools safer because they would rather see dead kids so they can push for more gun control. You're this type of person.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
Also, can't wait to hear the names of the Republican members of Congress that asked for presidential pardons.
Since you mentioned armor…do you think banning civilian access to body armor is a good idea? They just did it in New York State.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
Let’s make our people easier to kill and take away means to passively defend from being shot. Makes total sense to me and that kind of control will ABSOLUTELY prevent the next mass shooting. Am I right? What’s next…we gonna ban Band-Aides so the next mass shooter can’t use them?
I couldn’t give a shit to be honest. I’ve never thought to myself “I need body armor”. Anyone who has thought this or currently thinks this is likely a fucking psycho who shouldn’t have guns to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Well I have to work and do business in some pretty rough neighborhoods as a landlord, and sometimes I wear iiia (soft) body armor concealed under a shirt. And I also conceal carry. You haven’t seen what I’ve seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
That’s a pretty narrow and dare I say privileged view you have that because you don’t see of experience crime/violence in your life that anyone just trying to protect themselves is a psycho… I’m supposed to just be defenseless because you say so? You don’t know me man…
How did Democrats convince their base that body armor, you know a defensive tool, somehow made you a lunatic?
Then again, Democrats also convinced their base that police using tear gas launchers were really "grenade launchers", and that police using APCs were really "tanks", so I guess this is par for their course for their far left base.
Tell you what Shaft… If you can afford the gas, take a drive into the roughest part of the inner city of any major top 10 populated city that is closest to you. Then get out of your car and spend the whole day or night walking around in those public areas. If and when you come back alive, then tell us again how anybody who might want ti wear armor and/or carry a weapon for self defense is likely a psycho.
So the 40mm launchers couldn't shoot grenades instead? I honestly don't know the answer but I saw a couple mentions that they could but it wasn't from any real authority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Fresh out of high school I did door to door sales in southeast DC, so like 2000-2002. In a suit, literally walking around the entire day. Nothing happened after months of this and this is the worst part of DC by far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Shaft is likely talking about full tactical gear, not you "soft" body armor. I don't know though, that seemed to be what he was implying.
Do you really think police are using grenade launchers?Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
But thanks for proving my point. I suppose the APCs are also really tanks right?
They work kinda similar to those tee shirt launchers you see at sporting events. It’s what is in the launcher that counts. Grenades, tear gas canisters, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Remember when you said that the authorities were "disappearing" people?Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
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Full tactical gear, however that is defined, the core point remains the same. Who are you to tell what a free citizen needs or doesn’t need to stay alive in whatever it is they are legally doing? Just because you may not need it or can’t think of a good reason, doesn’t mean that a good reason doesn’t exist for someone else. That’s what we call tyrannical.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
I asked a legitimate question and you continue to show your ass. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
But they could be used as small scale nuclear tactical weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
So you believe citizens should be allowed to own literally anything, is that your argument?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Remember when you said women were less than men?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
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It was a dumb ass question.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Fertilizer can be used to build a bomb, I suppose you think a legitimate question to ask is whether or not a police station is building a bomb because they ordered fertilizer?
Uh-oh! Mixing bleach and ammonia can create a dangerous gas, I sure hope the Democrats are auditing every police department to make sure they aren't building chemical weapons when they order this stuff to clean their bathrooms!
I believe that people have a natural right to be able to effectively defend themselves from violence. That right is not bestowed to us by government. Our nation’s founding fathers simply acknowledged that natural God-given right exists.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Tgo is as batshit crazy as they comeQuote:
Originally Posted by drauz
I remember saying that women don't make for good leadership and this current administration is proving my theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Remember when you made up the story about patriot prayer assaulting people.
Can you even define what a woman is anymore? Answer carefully as the LBGTQ+ community is watching.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Ok Captain Strawman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I am talking about women who are born as females in this case. Neveragain has literally stated that he believes them less capable than men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
In a broader sense I don't really care what sex people call themselves. The only time I think it actually becomes a problem is when it comes to men transitioning to women in sports.
That's one thing about the left. Nobody can ever be left enough for the left. Which is why they're slowly but steadily eating their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Not that I can could possibly figure out what goes on in the head of an alt-leftist "mind", but I imagine the reason why they don't want civilians to have body armor was so mass shooters have a more difficult time attaining it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Originally Posted by drauz
You seem to think other people need some sort of body armor though:Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
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Originally Posted by SHAFT
They think an AR-15 (and I guess a glock now too) hits like a BFG 9000 too, so there's also that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
It's because they're really really stupid.
Exhibit A: Seran
So can you say that men (aka those born with a dick) on average are naturally more capable than women (aka those born with a vagina) in athletic performance? Meaning a man is genetically predisposed to be stronger, faster, tougher, etc. than a woman?Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Hint…if you answer yes than you just contradicted yourself, and if you answer no you are rejecting science.
Sorry I forget you are newly returned, this was strictly speaking about mental capabilities. Like women aren't as smart as men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Actually in some ways women are smarter than men. The sexes are in no way equal. Can’t fight biology.
But when I really want to piss off my wife…I tell her she can’t do something because she was born with tiny hollow bones and that I have to mansplain things to her.
I think it's safe to say that society 20 years ago is nothing at all like it is today.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
In other news, you didn't need to lock your doors in the 1950s and you didn't need a key to start a lot of cars.
Southeast DC was pretty bad 20 years ago... It's been gentrified a lot now, still not great though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Ahh yes. Back when men started cars by poping the hood and turning the crank. Key ignition was invented for women and originally shunned as unnecessary by what we refer today as “toxic masculinity”. How things have changed.,Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
When men "transition" into women, do they enter into a chrysalis stage?
Most places are probably 984732094327x worse today than 20 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
The world really took a giant shit once social media went mainstream and got integrated into everything and every retard on the planet got their own soapbox to spread their retardedness everywhere.
It was invented because Bryon Carter was killed from the results of a hand crank accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Carter's death allegedly made Leland decide that Cadillac would rid its cars of the hand starter crank. So he called on Charles Kettering and Dayton Engineering Laboratories Co., or DELCO, which had already developed a high-energy spark ignition for Cadillac that debuted in 1910. DELCO was able to build the electric starter device and prepare it for introduction in Cadillac's 1912 models.
A big part of the issue is nearly all the anti-gunners I have ever met have next to zero knowledge or experience with firearms. To justify the reasons they want “assault weapons” banned (that term alone is immediately a dead giveaway you don’t know shit…like calling a magazine a clip) they start talking about something they can’t even define let alone know how it performs. Outside of the rare Fudd, the gun control debate is people who have at least basic knowledge about firearms vs those who are completely ignorant on the subject. People fear what they don’t understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
What a homophobe you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Just a reminder:
Using CDC data: Less than 20k murders committed with a firearm
US Population: Over 350m+
Every death is tragic, but rescinding the rights of 350m+ people due to 20k deaths - is not how you effectively govern.
Enforce the laws already on the books, and Lefty DA's should stop letting criminals back onto the streets.
I grew up in flint Mi. I lived near MLK and Pasadena for 6 years. I was the only white kid for miles. We didn’t wear body armor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Sorry man, but perhaps you’re a lunatic too?
Good for you growing up hard. Quite frankly I don’t give a damn what you think of me. I’m coming home to my family at the end of the day, and if I choose to wear armor it’s none of your business.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
So can you not just leave law abiding people alone instead of dictating what safety precautions a person chooses?
You shouldn’t take everything so seriously. Give yourself a heart attack getting so upset about shit posts on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You know Bitcoin…there is simply too much risk of tax evasion and lacks monetary control by our federal government. I’ve never had any interest in trading in it, but those that do seem weird like they are into money laundering. Since that is my life experience I think I’ll write to my representative & senator how we need to follow China’s lead and ban Bitcoin. I’ll be an activist and encourage all my friends and family to do the same.
You cool with that Shaft?…our government banning digital currency / blockchain because it could be a threat to the US dollar & traded by criminals? It’s simply too dangerous.
(If it’s not obvious, that’s not my real position but an analogy for you that hopefully you can comprehend.)
You're so tough...Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
But your posts tell a different story.
An outgoing President who spent 4 years in office destroying our reputation globally, managed to out do himself where no other thought possible: he organized a coup to violently overthrow the government in order to install himself as President for the next four years, investigating the circumstances of the ONLY NON-PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER IN UNITED STATES HISTORY and publicly releasing the evidence goes towards leaps and bounds to restoring the credibility of the reputation of the United States. Just because you and Fox News can't stand it, doesn't mean the other 99.998% of the country doesn't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Furryrat
Funny how Trump isn’t in jail right now or was even charged with a crime, isn’t it? I seem to recall something about a report the FBI released last August how they found no evidence of a coordinated attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Given we live in a land of due process, would you have preferred if we skipped the Constitution, investigation and grand jury to speed things along for you? Would the hundreds of witnesses for the January 6th committee have been better served just by Trump being subpoenaed, stonewalling and no other witnesses or evidence examined? Go awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
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Originally Posted by Seran
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...trump-polling/Quote:
As notably, the number who say Trump is “solely” responsible has declined from 28 percent in January 2021 to 17 percent today. And the overall decline spans Republicans, Democrats and independents, all of whose numbers blaming Trump declined by at least a couple points.
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I’m all for due process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
So now that Congress has spent a considerable time and millions in funding on this special committee, did they clearly connect the dots that Trump organized this “coup”? When will he be charged with insurrection? Ohh that’s right…never. Because there is no evidence.
You are just as bat shit crazy as those Qanon people saying JFK Jr. is still alive and Trump is coming back into the Whitehouse after X new date/event.
This coming from the guy who champions the party still talking about Benghazi investigations a decade later. A party who creamed their pants at millions being wasted by Durham, who has struck out twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
The Mueller Investigation, legitimate and multiple convictions were handed down, Trump's too had Bill Bahr not misinterpreted a legal memo. January 6th investigation, a fuel year and a half off evidence gathering and SEVERAL convictions from shared evidence given to the DOJ. Not to mention the recent charges of seditious conspiracy against the Proud Boys who setup around the capital building before Trump's speech, knowledge made public solely as a result of the January 6th committee.
The subject of the primary subject of a investigation is always the last one called, Trump's charges are coming.
creamed their pants wow you are quite something (also show us where Trump touched you on the doll i mean seriously man)!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I don't see anyone ever taking away your title. Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
When are the actual criminal charges coming from this against President Trump? Give me a date so I can laugh at you more when that day comes and goes. Or maybe you would like to make a wager like Shaft did and just pay me for your stupidity?
By the time November rolls around the American electorate is going to be wishing that a coup actually took place on Jan. 6th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The non-cable networks typically have 20 million viewers combined for their evening news broadcasts, which DO NOT air during prime time. These sham hearings were broadcast during prime time and combined they barely broke 11 million viewers.
Clearly the far left cares about these hearings, but everyone else is worrying about how they will feed themselves next week, and if they aren't that bad off yet they are worrying if they will be that bad off next week.
While all that is fair.. nobody watches news we all just read it. If i need weather, my phone. If i need sports my phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I’m honestly surprised people even still watch the news on TV. Getting anything from the TV seems completely outdated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
I don’t even remember the last time I turned on a TV. I use my phone and computer to get everything I need, regarding news, movies or shows.
Yeah but that's why the comparison is news to news. Well I suppose that's not fair, these hearings are anything but "news", so I guess it's comparing news to theater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realk
Prepare to be shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Wait, what happened to "gender is a social construct and is different than sex?"Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Project a little harder. You've been having butthurt fueled meltdowns on here for 5-6+ years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SHAFT
But anyway, please elaborate on how I'm having a heart attack over your "I was only pretending to be retarded" post.
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LOOK AT ALL THOSE DEMOCRAT WHITE SUPREMACISTS OMG OGM OMG OMG OMGQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
So if they haven't connected all of the "dots" 1/6th of the way through making their case, then it must mean that there is no case to be made?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
So not only did they present some very clear evidence already, but this was the first session of six with half of it devoted to describing the evidence they plan on showing over the next 5 sessions. Coming to the conclusion that there's "no evidence" that Trump was as the center of this not only demonstrates an astounding level of ignorance of the available information in the public domain but also an unsettling desire to come to conclusions that are in direct contradiction to the reality of the first hearing.
Finally, Congress doesn't get to charge anyone with a crime, and the DoJs investigation (as well as the investigation in Georgia) is still ongoing. So I'm not really clear on what point you're trying to make here.
Would you say that things are heating up? Like for super duper extra cereal this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Remember when you got fooled by Hillary's "ZOMG HE'S COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA!" and you bought it, hook, line and sinker?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Remember when you got fooled by "He was blackmailing Ukraine to get info on Biden!" and you fell for it like a retard?
Remember when you got fooled by how MSNBC told you that Trump would be arrested any day now, and you held onto that for 6 years?
Remember how Joe Biden called the Georgia voting law "Jim Crow 2.0" and you were there, shaking your head in agreement?
Remember how all the bullshit stories about Covid came out and were later proven incorrect but you still carried that water"
This forum is littered with stupid stuff that the Democrats peddled out and you swallowed it like it was your job.
Please have someone think for you for a change... since you are incapable.
This reality TV show you are defending may just serve to only increase Trump's popularity, bringing him right back into the spotlight.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Could it actually do that? This certainly suggests that it could: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/11/polit...ate/index.html
I'm starting to believe that this pseudo hearing will damage the Democrat party even more.
The Dem's are showing that they have a complete lack of understanding for the reason why Trump was elected in the first place. Michael Moore was 100% right in his explanation of why Trump got elected, it was a giant "fuck you!" to the political class. The same political class that has failed, miserably, to keep in check the things that are the most important concerns to the people that just told the political class to fuck off.
Nobody is filling their tank and thinking to themselves "Fuck Jan. 6th!", they are screaming in their heads "Fuck Joe Biden!"
The Federal Reserve will be raising the interest rate by 3/4's of a percent over the next few days. This will continue until we get interest rates above the rate of inflation. A 30 year mortgage was still around 13.5 percent in 1984 and that was to achieve a 4.75 inflation rate. The average inflation rate between 1984 and 2022 is around 2.75 percent. People that have unfixed debt (balloon loans) are going to get hammered over the coming years, our consumer debt is 7 times greater than it was in 1984.
It really shouldn't be that surprising. We decided to put great, great, grandpa at the wheel when the car was going at the speed of light.
The economic indicators pretty much spell out a downturn worse than the 70's and early 80's. Nobody is going to be thinking about Jan. 6th come November 8th, voters will be thinking "Fuck Joe Biden!"
My point is the prime-time televised presentation from this January 6th committee is nothing more than propaganda specifically targeted to useful idiots to the Democratic Party. They know from the last election that nothing energizes their base to vote for them quite like the fear & hatred of Orange Man. Enjoy your Two Minutes Hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
And at the same time, his ass got voted out of office, for the exact opposite reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Nevertheleft is pretty confused why consumer non-mortgage debt is ballooning, why the middle class was destroyed by a realignment of wealth to the richest 1% a the cost of nationwide occupational growth and wealth. He is confused that every ten years, boom and bust has occurred since numbers have been tracked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Nevertheleft thinks that just because he doesn't understand history, economic data and can't be bothered to /not/ avoid common sense like the plague to trash Biden, that this is never before seen inflation.
the middle class is being destroyed because of the democrats and biden. I was doing well with Trump(Trump was an ass but he was trying)
. I know your lips are glued to Biden so that's okay.
Attachment 9935
I’m doing exactly the same under Biden as I was under Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
https://media0.giphy.com/media/6JB4v4xPTAQFi/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
You are absolutely full of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I thought you had to flee Russia like some sort of spy novel and you weren’t sure if your wife would be allowed to leave Russia. Now you’re supposedly living in the US with sky high inflation and energy prices and you’re doing just as well now?
Does your job automatically give you a pay increase every time Biden’s economy causes inflation to go up! Since no job does that, that means you are full of shit.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
The price increase doesn’t effect me at all, sorry to burst your bubble.
On top of that, I’m making 15ish% more here than I was in Russia, coupled with a much lower cost of living… so yeah, I’m doing just as well.
Edited: Also my perks and benefits also apply here in the states as my contract stipulates it.
So until you know my situation, don’t make assumptions.
Attachment 9936Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I understand you are struggling, not all people are in your situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
I don’t pay housing, my $2400 housing allowance covers that, and I have a full time driver. So yeah I’m good.
Are you just a pathological liar or what? Everything you post seems so fantastical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
First you were living in Russia and doing great because you were paid in American dollars and the ruble was crashing. You weren't concerned at all about the war in Ukraine because you had already secured a private extraction team for you and your family. Then apparently that extraction team fell apart, credit card companies stopped doing business in Russia which fucked you over, and you had to flee the country, and it looked like Russia wasn't going to let your wife leave, but they did in the end.
Now you're living in the US, making MORE money than you were in Russia (which is amazing because you said with the value of the dollar compared to the ruble you were practically living like a king.) Why were you even living in Russia to begin with? I thought the whole point of the Russian job was you were making more money, but by some miracle your job decided to pay you an extra 15% after you moved back to the states?
Everything you post is suspect. And "suspect" is my nice way of saying "full of shit."
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Dude get the fuck out already!
"I'm doing great in Russia! I pay for my own rent and expenses but it's all in ruble which is worth nothing and I get paid in dollars! LOL!!!"
"Oh shit now I live in the states! Uhh uhh...I get 2400 dollars a month housing allowance AND my own driver! Next week I might take a trip to the ISS. I dunno though, depends on how pretty I feel."
It’s ok to be a little jelly, I can understand. Maybe if you knew anything about working abroad in highly skilled positions, you might know something or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
It’s typical for contracts to include housing and a driver. Working for them for 10+ years I was able to get my perks and benefits to float with me if I would take a position in a different country. Sadly they are only good for the next 2 years, afterwards I would need to renegotiate my contract.
I was making $92k a year in Russia, now I’m making around $108k. So yeah I’m good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
It’s all good buddy, I can understand you are jelly and can’t fathom someone you don’t like is doing better than you.
Okay dude. Stop wasting time here and go buy your new solid gold toilet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Don’t worry, I'm sure you’ll be ok, I have faith!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I understand in your opinion, if YOU are struggling, everyone else has to be too!
If you are making stories up.. you should have used a number more than $2400. My daughter just got out of an apartment that increased the price of a 1 bedroom from $2200 to $3000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I'm sure you can get some tips from time4fun on how to make up stories to be an authority on every subject.. just don't use "I have a PhD in that field" like she did.. that's her schtick.
Be better.
Cost of living in Russia is on average 22% lower than living in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
If your story is to be believed, you are only making 15% more in the US.
It's stuff like this that just blows holes in your believability. Be better.. do a simple google search before you just start spouting numbers.
I'm not entertained at all.
That depends on what you buy. I don’t buy Russian products, I buy foreign products, which are much more expensive than they are in the states.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
For example, pop-tarts cost roughly $12 for a small box, a can of root beer is $4, or American cereal can cost up to $15 a box.
My housing allowance doesn’t change, it says the same as what I had in Russia, which was 160,000 rubles, which when I signed my contract was $2400.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I’m glad your daughter got out of an apartment. What exactly does that have to do with the contract I signed in Russia and the amount that I agreed upon?
Did I say it was a alot? It’s not, but it covers our housing situation and all bills.
8.6% inflation says you are doing worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
https://c.tenor.com/XKn8KJEUDzYAAAAC...me-soyjak.gif1Quote:
Originally Posted by Soyran
Tell us more about guns with high capacity clips.
You are trying to make yourself sound bigger than you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
$2400 a month for housing is literally nothing in this economy President Biden has created.
The number of people who are better off under a Biden Administration than a Trump Administration is infinitesimally small.
Especially if you are only making $108K a year in the banking industry.
I own my own home, that $2400 goes to taxes, utilities etc etc. i have no car payment, don’t pay gas, or worry about insurance, I took less for these added perks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
So all in all, inflation hasn’t really changed anything for me.
There are more holes in this story than my high school Silvertabs.
Someone is comfortable financially and aren't bitching about inflation, they must be lying!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Furryrat
People who brag on a public internet forum what they make in income are either liars or douchebags. There are always people that make more or less than you, and quite frankly nobody gives a flying eff.
Ain't about what they aren't doing, it's about what they ARE doing. And when. And why. That leaves holes wider than... well, you can finish that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
My silvertabs always wound up with a hole in the groin first. I put my pants on like everyone else, one leg at a time, but that shit's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Furryrat
Still have 1 pair left from 92 that fits and didn't blow out anywhere major. Thumb sized hole in the groin.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
I feel the same way about people who post just about any detailed information about themselves online. Salary. Business earnings. Real Estate values. Family information. Quantities and types of guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Its bad opsec, if nothing else.
But also, what you said.
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Originally Posted by Furryrat
His stories usually do... they aren't very well thought out.
Everyone who doesn’t fit their narrative is always lying!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You have won the day. Good show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Inflation affects everyone, moron. What would Solkern prefer: a supposed 15% raise when inflation is 2%, or a supposed 15% raise when inflation is nearing 9%?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
What makes Solkern's stories so obviously full of shit is no matter what everything works out for him.
First Biden's shitty economy doesn't affect him because he's living in Russia and taking advantage of the shitty Russian economy, then when he's forced to flee Russia (for the second time in less than 2 years no less) he suddenly and magically gets a 15% raise that so far offsets Biden's inflation. Oh yeah and he's getting a housing bonus and a personal driver, because why not!
Just because you vote for a party that lies to you all the time doesn't mean we have to get sucked into your warped world where we believe everything people say.
And if someone's income, expenditures and lifestyle allow them to live within their means comfortably and they choose not to be swept into the Conservashit, the sky is falling mantra, they're somehow either lying or simply the enemy. Naw, things don't work that way. People can be affected, or not and live life however they want. Just because your little indoctrination festival isn't succeeding means nothing but you need to move onto more important topics. Like gun violence, anticompetitive corporate practices as espoused by Big Oil and the Pharmaceutical industry as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
LOL at you being retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Inflation does affect everyone. It hits the rich a lot less than the poor. Of course, you only pretend to care about poor people, like the rest of your shitty party. At least the Republicans don't even pretend they give a fuck. They are the honest party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
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Originally Posted by Gelston
I’m aware that inflation also effects me and everyone else, I never said it didn’t, but my lifestyle, what I buy and what I do, hasn’t changed at all. I’m living the same way I did before the inflation spike.
It wasn't that you could afford Biden's economy. It was that he was financially unaffected by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Which is just bullshit.
FLASHBACK 1 DAY IN TIME:Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Either you are really stupid, really bad at communication, or you are doing what you always do when you are called out: change your story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
In your defense: I'm going with all 3.
https://youtu.be/v2o_EAeW4m0Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Far left insurrectionists demanding more abortions have shut down the streets outside of the US supreme court. They should thank their lucky stars they didn't enter the capitol building or else they would have been arrested and tried with sedition.
LOL. Oh who am I kidding. They could literally burn down the capitol building and Democrats would still find a way to blame it on Republicans.
When did I say I was financially unaffected by it? I said I’m doing the same now as I was before. Inflation hasn’t had an effect on my life or my spending habits..I make more here and spend less. I know it might be difficult for you to understand, English is hard for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
It’s ok, I understand you are confused, much like you were about how jet lag works, did you ever figure that out? I’m guessing probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And that is the issue. Your life should always be getting better, not staying the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Didn't they already riot at the Capitol at some point under Trump? I'm too lazy to look it up, but I seem to remember some bullshit happening. Don't remember if it was during Kavanaugh hearings or what it was about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You are absolutely correct by that, but I’m also quite content on where I am, I could be saving even more without the spike in inflation, that’s about it. The dip in my monthly savings isn’t really a OH MY GOD IM FUCKED dip, it’s not that significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
They rioted during Trump's inauguration and burned cars and buildings. They also rioted during Kavanaugh's inauguration, although to be fair I don't think they burned anything down that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
But none of that matters because we almost lost our democracy to a bunch of unarmed people roaming the halls of congress because they smashed windows! And they had zipties! ZIPTIES!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Methais
Didn’t some crazy leftist try to kill the dude?
While that may seem insignificant to you, why would they even bring zip ties? What was the purpose of bringing zip ties into congress? That does signal bad intent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Edited: malicious was the wrong word to use.
My issue is conformity, if a small group of them actually went to far, it could have snowballed out of control and a lot more people could have been hurt or killed, thankfully the capitol police were able to stop it before it got to far.
Okay so zipties = malicious intent, literally burning down buildings, setting cars on fire, and brutalizing/murdering people in the street for months = "eh."Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Also the ONE person who had zipties found them after police left them laying around, so no one "brought" zipties, but the leftwing media sure as shit has spent the last year lying to you and telling you otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Tgo01
You’re the one who said they had zip ties… I was going by your words.
I’m also not trying to minimize what happened during that Black Lives Matter shit, or when Trump became President, what was being done was wrong and they should all be punished for it.
With an as of yet undisclosed number of FBI agents in the crowd agitating for riot and insurrection. That weasel Merrick Garland ddoging that question every time just makes me so happy we don't have that POS in the SCOTUS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Because it's always fun mocking people who think zipties mean anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
All of their lies about the largely peaceful protest has been thoroughly debunked and yet idiots are still repeating them 1.5 years later.
Anyone other than a peaceful protester was murdered that day? LIE!
They brought zipties? LIE!
They were heavily armed! VERY VERY BIG ONE LIE!
They were mostly "armed" with baseball bats, FLAGPOLES (LOL!), and pepper spray.
The media is still pushing the lie that three people were charged with carrying a gun that day. ONE person was arrested and charged with carrying a gun while on the grounds of the Capitol. They found guns in the truck of another person after he was arrested (so he didn't have the guns on him while he was on the grounds of the Capitol.) And the third person was arrested for making threats to Nancy Pelosi and they found guns in his home after they arrested him days after the largely peaceful protest.
So the "heavily armed" "militia" consisted mostly of flagpoles and peppery spray and ONE pistol, and this ragtag team of misfits almost became the new federal government that day. This is what leftists have fed you for the past 1.5 years.
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-st...a6568bc-23.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
^ TERRORIST!!!!!
That was like a week ago. But yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
As of yet made up number of FBI agents.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
January 6th 2021 hearings resume this morning, establishing Trump had knowledge that his efforts claiming fraud, the false electors he and his campaign employed were a deliberate and willful effort to circumvent a legal, Constitutional proceeding.
You posted "I’m doing exactly the same under Biden as I was under Trump." This LITERALLY means you are financially unaffected by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Please go on and on and on about how it's everyone else's fault and not yours that you can't communicate effectively.
Fucking retard.
2020 wasn't the first time Trump claimed to be cheated out of an election. Remember this from 2016?
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Wednesday accused rival Ted Cruz of stealing a victory in the Iowa caucuses and called for another vote or nullification of Cruz’s win.
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“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he stole it,” Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted. “That is why all of the polls were so wrong and why he got far more votes than anticipated. Bad!”
Several social media users tweeted screengrabs of an alleged deleted tweet from Trump’s official account, in which he said Cruz “illegally” stolen the vote.
“Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,” Trump wrote.
That was pointed out by the commentators today, Trump also claimed to have been cheated by a corrupt election system during vote tallies with Hillary Clinton. Until he won, then there there was no irregularities! Lying to get his way is just the Trump MO.Quote:
Originally Posted by ClydeR
Just like how the Conservashits in this board post ridiculous shit they know is false and try and guess how they're going to be called out. Trying too set expectations so they can get away with being asshats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQesfLIycJw
Weird... seems Clinton did the same thing. What oh what is the difference, and why isn't she being called up to Capitol Hill also for her spurious claims?
Oh, did Hillary also personally enlist a group of white supremacists and arrange for them to overturn an election by force? I must have missed when Hillary reached out to multiple secretaries of state to "find votes".Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Also, you may not have noticed this article was about Hillary calling Trump illegitimate given his impeachable crimes blackmailing Ukraine, and has nothing to do with an election. Soooo yeah.. You should listen to or read your sources before you blindly offer them.
Will you be shocked when this changes nothing in the November election? People are wise to the partisan produced show Pelosi is putting on. Even my very liberal niece has tuned out of this shit and keeps telling me she's lost faith in the democrats. A couple more years of Biden, and I'll have her voting Republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clint...160716779.html
"Hillary Clinton Maintains 2016 Election ‘Was Not On the Level’: ‘We Still Don’t Know What Really Happened"
"Hillary Clinton is sticking with her conviction that the 2016 presidential election was not conducted legitimately, saying the details surrounding her loss are still unclear. “There was a widespread understanding that this election [in 2016] was not on the level,” Clinton said during an interview for the latest episode of The Atlantic’s politics podcast, The Ticket. “We still don’t know what really happened.”
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/polit...fbi/index.html
"Hillary Clinton personally approved plan to share Trump-Russia allegation with the press in 2016, campaign manager says"
"Hillary Clinton personally approved her campaign’s plans in fall 2016 to share information with a reporter about an uncorroborated alleged server backchannel between Donald Trump and a top Russian bank, her former campaign manager testified Friday in federal court."
https://nypost.com/2021/11/04/the-re...utely-nothing/
"The real ‘collusion’ was the creation of ‘RussiaGate’ out of absolutely nothing"
"To be clear: The FBI never found the least confirmation of any of it. Neither did special counsel Bob Mueller’s vast team. The bureau interviewed Danchenko just days after Trump’s inauguration and learned how utterly baseless the gossip truly was — yet it was years before that was made public."
I would say what the Democrat Party did, was much more subversive and treasonous... than a rally that got out of hand, and the rioters were arrested.
You're a partisan shill though, so your dumbass can't handle the actual truth.
WHEN DID YOUR NIECE BECOME A WHITE SUPREMACIST WHO WANTS CHILDREN TO BE MURDERED!?!?!?!? -Seran, probablyQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Keep trying to deflect, it's alright the bad men at the DOJ will take your Orange savior into custody soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
You Lefties might want to read up on this stuff... you might wake up if you do, and realize you're getting played like a 2 dollar hooker in Vegas... that's to say, rough...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...e-ignore-facts
"Why People Ignore Facts - When it comes to reasoning, identity trumps truth."
"If most of reasoning is for social cohesion instead of truth-seeking, then belonging to a particular political party should distort our reasoning and make us pretty bad at finding the truth."
BTW, the bolded part is you in a nutshell. You should take some time to reflect on some things.
https://youtu.be/v2o_EAeW4m0Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Is that what CNN and MSNBC told you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
SPOILER: They said the same exact thing about the made up lie "Russian collusion!" and this is no different.
When is Trump going to be arrested?
That dude is never going to see the inside of a jail cell. You are as delusional as the people that thought Hillary was going to jail. I bet you made fun of them too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You realize the lengths you go to in order to avoid having to actually address what Trump and the GOP did?Quote:
Originally Posted by beldannon5
All of you do it actually- it's kind of astounding. You talk in circles and change the subject because none of you wants to be in the position of having to actually defend what he did.
Our Capitol was under attack by at least two violent white nationalist extremist groups who were there to stop the certification of the election and who were searching for the Vice President of the United States of America and Congress chanting things like "Hang Mike Pence". And Trump refused to tell them to stop. He made absolutely no move to defend our Capitol, Congress, or his own VP. And when he was finally forced to make a statement hours later, he told the armed militia groups who were hunting down the VP and members of Congress and killing cops in the process that they were great people and that he loved them.
Oh, and did I mention they were only in DC because he told them to come? And that members of his campaign were in talks with these violent white nationalist extremist groups? AND that Trump pointed them to the Capitol building at exactly the time when they were certifying the election results and told them this was their last chance to take back their country and to fight like hell. And he knew for a fact that violent white nationalist extremist militia groups were in the crowd.
And you all will do *anything* to avoid having to acknowledge that and actually say "That seems like exactly what a sitting US President should be doing".
You're very likely right here on the jail issue. The logistics alone- keeping a former US President in prison and ensuring he had proper security (like former US President level security) would be almost impossible. Plus, we don't generally put older, wealthy white men in prison. And putting him in prison would be the one thing that could arguably be worse for the country than not putting him in prison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Trump will presumably run for office in order to insulate himself from being charged. One way or the other, it would likely be years before he's charged by DoJ- if at all.
Georgia, on the other hand, may be a very different story.
Unless there are important incriminating facts known by the committee or DOJ that have not been released to the public, then it's hard to see how Trump could be convicted of a crime relating to his phone call to Georgia or his actions regarding January 6. And if there were important incriminating facts, those would have been leaked by now. His only punishment will be to his legacy. Fifty years from now when elementary schoolchildren learn one thing about each President, what they'll learn about Trump will be "sore loser," which is a lot worse than being a mere "loser."
I will not be at all surprised if someday somebody goes to jail over the handling of the money Trump raised from his small supporters to challenge the election..
How much of that money has been spent challenging the election, and how much has been paid to Trump properties and family members?Quote:
Former President Donald Trump’s advisor Kimberly Guilfoyle—also the fiancée of his son, Donald Trump Jr.—was paid $60,000 for a brief speech at a Trump rally on the morning of January 6, 2021, according to a member of the House panel investigating the Capitol riot, part of what the committee cast as a scheme by Trump’s campaign to raise money off false voter fraud claims.
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Trump’s PAC collected $75 million this year, but so far the group has not put money into pushing for the 2020 ballot reviews he touts
By Josh Dawsey and Rosalind S. Helderman
July 22, 2021 at 6:05 p.m. EDT
Former president Donald Trump’s political PAC raised about $75 million in the first half of this year as he trumpeted the false notion that the 2020 election was stolen from him, but the group has not devoted funds to help finance the ongoing ballot review in Arizona or to push for similar endeavors in other states, according to people familiar with the finances.
Instead, the Save America leadership PAC — which has few limits on how it can spend its money — has paid for some of the former president’s travel, legal costs and staff, along with other expenses, according to the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the group’s inner workings. The PAC has held onto much of its cash.
Even as he assiduously tracks attempts by his allies to cast doubt on the integrity of last year’s election, Trump has been uninterested in personally bankrolling the efforts, relying on other entities and supporters to fund the endeavors, they said.
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Trump is guilty of bad behavior, no doubt. There is absolutely not a shred of evidence that connects him to a coup. It was a “mostly peaceful protest”. Not even a fiery one. Don’t act like it’s only the right who has extremist groups… Those people who violently assaulted the Capitol police and stormed in should be held accountable. But please, spare me your self righteous partisan BS that the greatest threat to our democracy is the Republican party and the 74.2 million people that voted for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
I selfishly hope something legally happens that prevents Trump from running or he loses the primary. DeSantis would dominate in the general election against anything the Dems could throw at him. He is MUCH more of a conservative than Trump ever was. Perhaps a bit more so than I personally care for, but would gladly vote for him over Biden. He is the president that “Orange Man bad” leftists like you & Seran deserve.
Did you actually watch the hearings? I highly recommend you watch today's at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
As for your "not even a fiery" "mostly peaceful protest" (and yes I caught the snark there): the crowd was full of white nationalist extremist militia groups (who had been in contact with the Trump White House days before the event, according to the FBI) who were carrying a noose and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" while searching the building for him, Nancy Pelosi, and the rest of Congress. And that's after killing several police officers and permanently disabling several more. And they were doing it for one sole purpose: to stop a free and fair election from being certified. Oh and they left bombs in front of the DNC. So please stop pretending like it was no big deal. It was a huge deal and unprecedented in American history.
But more to the point, you keep saying there's no evidence, and I'm absolutely flummoxed here. Can you do me a favor and please describe the events leading up to January 6th and the events that occurred during and Trump's role in it? I'm genuinely curious here as to what your understanding of the situation is.