Rant ripped off from Dennis Leary who stole it from someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
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Rant ripped off from Dennis Leary who stole it from someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
I am very confident that there are scientists in Zimbabwe who know more about practically everything to do with science than you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You lie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Oh, also, it's not my argument. It's the argument of almost every climate scientist and scientific organization on the planet.
I made that up in about 2 minutes... appreciate the comparison to Dennis Leary though. Think I have a chance in comedy then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
You're trying to use rational arguments on just the sort of people who are immune to them. Reasoning with morons who live with their heads buried in their sand-filled asses and look shit up in their gut is a pointless exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
These things have a way of working themselves out, if we will just stay out of it and let nature correct itself. I'm not worried, and you shouldn't be either.Quote:
More than a million homes and businesses along the nation’s coasts could flood repeatedly before ultimately being destroyed. Entire states in the Southeast and the Corn Belt may lose much of their agriculture as farming shifts northward in a warming world. Heat and humidity will probably grow so intense that spending time outside will become physically dangerous, throwing industries like construction and tourism into turmoil.
That is a picture of what may happen to the United States economy in a world of unchecked global warming, according to a major new report released Tuesday by a coalition of senior political and economic figures from the left, right and center, including three Treasury secretaries stretching back to the Nixon administration.
More...
Who's worried? I'm not worried. Are you worried?
Staying inside just means more time to Internets.
Right, right. "Manipulating the data." Must be the colluding liberal influence of NOAA, NASA (and the UN)... under both Republican and Democratic administrations. Guess they've got LONG-TERM conspirators in there! Oh, and it flies right in the face of your already-debunked, ignorant, fallacious claims that "warming has suspended, therefore it's called climate change, and not global warming" (wrong).Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Why are you even engaging ParkFuckWit on this sort of issue? ParkFuckWit thinks that Jesus has told him that global warming is bullshit. You simply can't reason with shitstains like him. He hates science because (i) Money, and (ii) The Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
PB doesn't believe in Jesus, just Reagan and freedom!
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...52/840/d73.jpg
I have that up in my classroom.
Whoa.. who said I don't believe in Jesus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Did you know that it snowed in Montana this week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
Uhhh....you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Being an Athiest doesn't mean you don't believe there was a man named Jesus born in 0 AD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
It means I don't believe this man was God's son... or that there is a God.
That's fascinating. Do you also believe there was a man named Steve born in 1973?
You fatuous fucker.
It's not a shock that what I post went well above your understanding. Let me simplify it for you:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
I believe there was a man named Jesus that created the belief in many people that he was the son of God.
I believe the man was real, but that his claim wasn't... given that I don't believe in God to begin with.
Does that help you?
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/people_are_stupid.png
I just felt like posting today's XKCD in a still-active political thread.
What happened to cwolff? He's been AWOL for a couple weeks now. I kind of miss his stupid in a weird way.
He said he was going off the grid. Personally I think he's the Unabomber.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Oh no, I understood completely. You decided to act like "believe in Jesus" is not a common phrase with a common usage, and instead try to play the asinine word games that you seem to enjoy so much because when it really comes down to it you don't really have much to offer beyond empty words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Which is why you are a fatuous fucker.
I see, so in other words he's either about to come back under a new account, or is gonna start posting more on his main account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I think he started posting under a new account before he left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Uh huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Sorry I hurt your feelings so much this morning. I hope you have a better day.
Try not to get so easily upset.. some people might take advantage of it just for their own entertainment.
http://collegetimes.com/wp-content/u...if-Exactly.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Ahh, the old that can't be my new account because it existed before I left trick!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
What a smooth criminal.
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shot...ls-special.gif
Does it make you feel better to think that you might be able to upset people on the internet? I have some bad news for you. Nobody cares, and you don't affect anybody in even the smallest way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I've already apologized for upsetting you because that wasn't my intention. You took a post of mine in the wrong way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
You sure are spending a great deal of time on this for someone who doesn't care...Quote:
I have some bad news for you. Nobody cares, and you don't affect anybody in even the smallest way.
I honestly hope your day gets better. It got off to such a bad start!
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Fuck you asshole. Oh, hey, don't take that the wrong way. Don't be a sensitive little girl about it. Fuck head.
... Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I'm not upset. It's just an example of when someone is intentionally being offensive then turns it around on the offended person by calling them overly sensitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whirlin
Re-read the side conversation again. I was not being offensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Or, just keep herpin' and derpin' as usual.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pr-xzajQo0Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
My day got off to a wonderful start, actually. Outside of the roughly three minutes that involved you I have done some cleaning, had a delicious omelet, visited my grandma, and spent an hour and a half at the gym. I assure you, you do not have a spot on any list of shit that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Besides, if the mere act of posting means somebody is upset, you have gotten upset almost 37,000 times now. You must be a very sensitive person. Probably explains why it's so important for you to think that you have some impact on somebody's day.
I first read that as "had a delicious mullet" and was like...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
http://display.didioffendyou.com/1/5...4238618c8d.jpg
Just how often do you eat mullets?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
So, you were upset. How awful :sad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
It pains me greatly knowing I caused you such emotional distress for those 3 minutes.
No one has made that jump that posting means somebody is upset... except you. Most adults here are generally stable.Quote:
Besides, if the mere act of posting means somebody is upset, you have gotten upset almost 37,000 times now. You must be a very sensitive person. Probably explains why it's so important for you to think that you have some impact on somebody's day.
I hope you get well soon.
Really? Seems like most people here are more coocoo then cocopuffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Used to back in my day.....
Climate changed four times a year.... we called them seasons.
Dad jokes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Used to back in my day....Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
I'd backhand you for talking sass boy! :)
Really sad trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You, stable? I realize that if all you do is hang around with unstable morons and folks with sub-average IQ's, you might begin to think you're normal. So that's one explanation for your odd self-assessment. Another explanation is that you're just so fucking retarded that you can't tell that you're one of the idiots in the room. I'm 50/50 as to which explanation is the better one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Did you not get the memo? We still call them seasons. I know this is above your conservatard pay grade, but you might try the following image:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Attachment 6711
Liberal propaganda. Everyone knows there's only one earth and it's in the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
Thanks for this. Seriously. That was good for a very solid laugh. Props. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
As long as republicans claim that their fellow Americans are the enemy I will never vote for them. Republicans tend to label "liberals" as the bad guy. What they are missing is that that is a construct of their own imagination currently. America is the best place in the world to live. When republicans rail against the best government in the world, and the best people in the world, I consider them equal to religious extremists.
Wow, dude. You didn't just drink the kool-aid.. You gave yourself an enema with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Wow. You are one hell of a stupid fuckidiot. Please, describe to me how it feels to be as fucking retarded as you are. Exactly how does being a fucking idiot make you feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You don't think America is the best place to live? Last time I went to the store there were no suicide bombers. Though I worry about gun right psychos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
Sorry, but when you point your fingers at other Americans as being an enemy I can't help but feel the finger pointers are the real problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Like when Obama says Republicans are the reason nothing is getting done in DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Thats true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You mean like Obama authorizing the illegal assassination of American citizens without due process? Or how about DHS labeling veterans of the Iraqi/Afghanistan war as well as those who look strongly upon the constitution as potential domestic terrorists? Yeah sure, only republicans label right? And what exactly makes us the greatest country in the world? It sure as he'll isn't our healthcare or education system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You don't think America is the best place to be despite your criticisms?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
That's true as in it's true that Obama said that therefore you think he's an asshole or that's true as in Obama is speaking the truth therefore it's okay when he engages in the same behavior you just said you despise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I did not read your post because I know you are an idiot. You are bringing the whole human race down, dude. Just stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Rrriiiggghhhttt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Gotcha.
wink wink
You can't even do that right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
http://blog.chron.com/tubular/files/...hat-i-mean.gif
I realize this wasn't directed at me, but no, America is not the best place to be. You'd be better off being born elsewhere, currently. That said, it's not a BAD place to be. There are many WORSE places. But only a dumbass thinks that it's the best place to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
If I want to seek political advice, I think the first person I'd look to is some fagass moron who is busy scripting his way to Lich Room #2352359 (or somesuch). This country is dying because little cumstains like you get to vote in between your cybersessions in Silvergate Manor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
So keep cybering?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seizer
Don't respond to him. It validates his sad existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seizer
Yet you have no problem railing against Republicans, and comparing the Tea Party to terrorists. Gotcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
http://www.hdgif.com/home/data/media/7/1282106539.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Back
Packlash want's to ban fingers. But only those on right wingers.. because everyone knows left winger fingers don't point in a derogatory fashion... and Packlash is ALL about fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Do you think that most countries in the world have to deal with suicide bombers every time they go out of the house? Because no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Australia, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark...there are many places which have a higher general quality of life than the US. Most lists the US doesn't even make it into the top 10.
Exactly this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
I don't understand the thought process of people staying in a place they don't particularly like. Life is too short to be miserable. I disliked New York, Connecticut and Richmond, VA.. so I moved away.
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Originally Posted by Back
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Lol @ Backlash being Backlash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
He can't move. His grandmother likes her house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Honestly, in New York I'd imagine you'd be in more danger from gangs than gun rights advocates.
I would love to move back to Washington, but I can't just drop my lease, education and job to go do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
Lease is what, a year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
Education is what, 2-3 years left?
Job? Come now..
I'm not saying people should up and leave without a plan.. I sure didn't... but if you are honestly miserable in the city/state/country you live in, why isn't your happiness your #1 priority at this stage in your life?
Eh, it's really hard to make grand comparisons like that. I can't imagine my quality of life being any better in any of those countries...but I'm not living in Detroit, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Are you basing this on experience and/or research involving those other countries or just your imagination?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
If his imagination wasn't powerful, then GS wouldn't be the best game in the world, but it is, so you must be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Back
A large part of the reason for this is those places don't have massive populations of braindead conservatards fucking everything up. The QoL in the US will improve massively once we exterminate the conservative zealots who are fed, human centipede style, by Rupert Murdoch's asshole, to which their lips are permanently locked. Right wing conservatism is a social disease and the pariahs who have it need to be committed and treated for having a mental disorder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
I'm so glad I was eating a chocolate cookie when I read this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
http://www.slate.com/articles/techno...zing_iraq.html
It's not Obama's fault what's happening in Iraq.. it's caused by man made global warming.
It can't be Obama's fault anyway because the path to troop withdrawal was Bush's victory, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Bush gave the date where all troops would be removed from Iraq? I always thought the plan was to leave troops there like we do in Japan, Germany, etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
Ahhh, yeah. Its called the Status of Forces Agreement, though its full official name was: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq. Bush signed it just before Obama took office, so the Obama administration had no control over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
President Obama negotiated with the Iraqi government to change the SOFA to allow for troops to stay past the Dec. 31, 2011 deadline but they refused to change it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...111801118.html
From the article:
The first is a status-of-forces agreement, called a SOFA, which would codify legal protections for U.S. military personnel and property in Iraq. Such agreements already govern U.S. military conduct in other long-term deployment zones-including Germany, Japan, and South Korea-and the administration has characterized talks for a SOFA in Iraq as a hopeful step toward stability. A draft of that agreement (PDF) from October 2008 shows significant concessions from the U.S. side. For instance, the Bush administration agreed to a total withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011. The agreement would also place additional restrictions on how U.S. troops conducted missions, and require a pullout from Iraqi urban areas by July 2009.
Antarctica sets yet another record for sea ice area since tracking began in the 70's.
I thought global warming was causing the ice caps to melt and in 2 years Florida would be completely under water? What's happening here?!
Look up the "soft underbelly". Think of it like a massive Jenga. Having more pieces on the bottom is in general better, but not if the missing pieces are all concentrated in a specific area: that destabilizes the entire structure. If 100% coverage looks like this:
Then this:Code:XXXXX
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isn't as bad as this:Code:XOXXX
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even though the second one has a higher area covered.Code:OXXXX
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And that's why you must vote for acquittal.
Perhaps, if you were the slightest bit intellectually curious, you could have found out the reality after only moments of searching: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...rctic-ice.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Instead, you're content to go "Herpaderp! This confirms my ignorant layperson's understanding and must surely mean that the science behind climate change is a fraud and/or suspect!"
Try again.
Latrin, a simple "I have no idea how to explain this" would have sufficed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I'm not at all that interested in enough to read that article; can you give me the summary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
Imagine you're a perfect sphere, and then I break your fucking legs. Get it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Ice is melting faster at the north pole than it's expanding at the south pole. Antarctica has had about 193,000 additional square miles of ice past averages for the past 30 years, but the north pole is about 1,320,000 square miles below averages. As a whole, the planet is losing more and more ice, and Antarctica's small gains don't nearly make up for the loss as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Where the north pole is, but should be, and what the south pole was, and is:
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/6...rctic-2012.jpg
My favorite part:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Wasn't this the same guy that was using shrinking ice deposits as an example of global warming a few years ago? And now that global sea ice area is up over a million square kilometers it's "not informative or useful".Quote:
Originally Posted by quacktard
As long as we continue to allow things like this to be politicized, and based on grants and funding from people with an agenda, we're gonna head further in the wrong direction.
This is completely false. GLOBAL ice is up over a million square kilometers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
So you explain that the south pole is gaining ice by saying that the north pole is losing ice and this somehow...proves...what again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
He was using regional sea ice area, not global. (Specifically, the Arctic.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
As long as you continue to allow yourself to be led around by the nose by your biases, you're gonna head further in the wrong direction.
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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Check and mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
Never play chess against the master unless you're prepared to lose.
So using shrinking ice as legitimate evidence of global warming is ok, but using growing ice as legitimate evidence to the contrary isn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Only one of us does that on a consistent basis, and it ain't me.Quote:
As long as you continue to allow yourself to be led around by the nose by your biases, you're gonna head further in the wrong direction.
The article says that the ice is growing, and therefore global warming isn't happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
The facts are that global ice values are decreasing, so the argument is inherently flawed on the most fundamental basis.
Furthermore... is it just me, or is Area a shitty measurement to use in the first place? I mean shit... by area, there's been no difference in snowfall between this last winter, and the last 5 before that.
By all means, dazzle us with your citation for that claim. And even if ice is up at this particular instant, we're losing critical bodies of ice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
There's a difference between sea ice and land ice; the sea ice in Antarctica melts and forms yearly, and does not affect sea levels. The land ice mass on Antarctica is thousands of years old (or more), and is being lost, even as sea ice in Antarctica has expanded a little.
http://climate.nasa.gov/news/242/
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2014/06/1...acier-melting/
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2006-028
Reading comprehension failure #59575 on your part, Tgo.. The north pole's ice averages are way, way below averages. The south pole's averages are slightly above averages. The planet, as a whole, is losing ice--especially the critical, sea-level-rising variety--regardless of Thondalar's fact-free assertion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Did you read my link, Ashliana?
Yes, I did. Did you read what I wrote about the difference between sea ice and land ice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
"Three years of observations by ESA’s (the European Space Agency) CryoSat satellite show that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet is losing over 150 cubic kilometres of ice each year – considerably more than when last surveyed."
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Ob...ss_on_the_rise
Land ice continues to be lost, including in Antarctica:
http://i.imgur.com/Cw1OgMw.png
Sea levels continue to rise:
http://i.imgur.com/CMTqK52.png
To my knowledge, Dr. Meier does not post here as Ashliana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I don't know why ice loss in the Arctic means one thing and ice gain in the Anarctic means another. I'm not a climatologist. I'm merely pointing out that with absolutely no evidence, you believed Dr. Meier to be a hypocrite. Can you remember any times when you had a similar reaction to anti-climate change scientists?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
NCVS. :)Quote:
Only one of us does that on a consistent basis, and it ain't me.
Terrence, you just moved your bishop in a horizontal line and yelled "king me!". Time to sit a few plays out.
Boy this climate change thing gets more and more complicated doesn't it?
"The polar ice caps are melting! Sea levels are rising!"
"But, like, there is more ice in the arctic than there was in the past 30 years..."
"That's SEA ice you noob! Land ice is all that matters!"
Sort of like how scientists had to come up with a reason for why seasons were getting colder in the era when it was still called global "warming."
They nipped that one in the bud by renaming it climate change.
Well... yes, science is complicated. What made you think it wasn't? Care to dust off the old report cards?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
This is why it's totally pointless to argue with conservatives, especially the ones on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
How many times have you been called out for incorrectly claiming that "scientists changed 'global warming' to 'climate change' to explain cooling"? That claim is false, and I've pointed you to NASA's statement on the subject--NASA under the Bush administration.
This is at least correction #3 or 4. http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...ther_name.html
You're either willfully ignorant (BINGBINGBINGBINGBING) and/or so politically jaded, you're totally uninterested in reality (double BINGBINGBINGBINGBING!) because you've been told what to think by totally scientifically illiterate pundits.
That's right, Tgo. There's no need to think critically about humanity's impact on the planet or how the global community of scientists have come to the conclusion that we're having an impact on it--you can just dismiss their claims out of hand by inventing profit motives, while listening to to the unscientific opinions of people directly financed by oil companies, whose profit motives you don't question.
Retard.
I don't know, I've lost track. So why did they change the term from "global warming" to "climate change"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fea...ther_name.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Enjoy.
Or he's just fucking with you... and getting an amazing rise out of you in the process.
I thought ED drugs were the other thread. Mod?Quote:
Originally Posted by Whirlin
Warming made it seem like the only issue is stuff getting a little hotter. Climate Change is more inclusive of other phenomena that is observed as a result of the increasing temperatures, such as more severe weather patterns, raising sea levels, longer growing seasons, increased pollen production, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Are you flirting with me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I'm curious about your use of the term "layperson" in this post. Is it due to...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
- Your liberal conscience compelling you to be as politically correct as possible even when you know the person's gender?
- Your confusion about Tgo's gender?
- Your confusion about your own gender?
It proves that the south pole is an evil capitalist that is getting rich off the back of the poor north pole and leaving it in ruins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I use neutral terms whenever possible. Humanity vs. Mankind. Congressperson vs Congressman/woman, etc. I don't like making assumptions about other people's gender, especially when I only know them as a name on a forum. As you can probably guess, I don't place much importance on the preservation of the status quo for its own sake. And to answer your question from the other day, no, I am not a "Brony," and I'm not sure what your basis for suspecting I'd enjoy a children's show would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
He rode the short bus. Tgo01 wasn't "in school". He was in a "program" for lobotomized rejects. They don't give report cards out for these kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I should probably use more neutral terms at times but I don't use those terms too frequently that I can think of. The Brony thing is a poke at your sexual orientation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashliana
For that matter, "lay" has Catholic overtones!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Surface area of earth: 510m km^2Quote:
It proves that the south pole is an evil capitalist that is getting rich off the back of the poor north pole and leaving it in ruins.
Surface area of Antarctica: 14m km^2
Therefore Antarctica is a 2.5%er, not 1%er, so they are okay (like Al Gore).
A tragic victim of global warming:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
Uh...from the entry you linked that seems to be a tragic victim of poorly planned Soviet irrigation canals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
Pretty sure that was his point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
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Originally Posted by Atlanteax
A perfect example of man's impact on the environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
^ gets a cookieQuote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
So what exactly was the point of posting that? To point out that things happen on the planet that aren't caused by climate change, as if that was somehow in dispute?
So... because man fucked up the Aral Sea... that means... climate change isn't real? Is that what you're getting at Atlanteax?
Looks like he's finally seen the light. Man does have an impact on the environment!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
Earth itself was responsible for the climate change.
Dinosaurs were responsible for the last climate change.
Earth decided to mess with the climate some more.
Wait that's wrong.
It's all the humans fault that the climate changes. That's right.
Therefore it's only logical that humans were around at the formation of the earth, since the climate has been changing for the past 5+ million years... and since humans are the cause of climate change, then humans must be 5 million years old. It's only logical.
The incredible dump I took this morning more than proved that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You're forgetting that republicans didn't exist back then, therefore making it impossible for humans to affect climate change at that point in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Why can't it be both?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Because dinosaur factories and power plants haven't been found yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Unless that's really where volcanoes came from.
Well actually... since aliens created humans... I guess it would be the aliens fault for all the climate change since the formation of the earth. Fucking aliens.... I love getting my revenge on them commanding my XCOM forces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Where did you go to school to study climatology, again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Fred Flintstone would disagree with you sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
You know the reason dinosaurs never had an impact on the climate was because they didn't have a globe-spanning society, right? Dinotopia was just a fantasy book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Dwwar studied COSMETOLOGY, not CLIMATOLOGY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
That's why it's logical that the humans living back then did. A=B=C therefore A=C.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
Humans hurt climate=climate changes=for 5 million years... therefore... Humans hurt climate=for 5 million years. See? Latrin!! Get on the exact mathematics involved in this!
Now I want to play XCOM, bastard. Snipers with overwatch FTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Technically speaking, you don't HAVE to go to school to study climatology. Climatology is the study of the climate, just like a climatologist is someone who studies it. There are "Climatologists" whose major was non science related fields.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
So he could study his local climate, and call himself a climatologist, technically.
I just got it this week. So still learning the game... but really enjoying it. I like the strategy involved. It seems I'm to careful with my movements/overwatch positions to get all of the cube things, but getting slightly better. If anyone wants to play multi-player let me know, haven't done that yet. (on PC)Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
It was also a key thread in Chrono Cross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
When climate change brings the dinosaurs back to life we can just ask them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
I didn't even know it had multiplayer. As far as the single player game though my final squad consisted of 2 snipers, 2 assault (one being a medic) and 1 heavy weapons expert. The two most lethal on the squad were a pair of russian chicks, one a sniper and the other a shotgun toting grenadier. The weakest was the heavy weapons dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Never played that one. Was it as good as its predecessor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
I don't think anyone can/does dispute this. The argument seems to be exactly what the impact is, and what should be done about it, if anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I liked it more, a lot liked it less. I think you can get it on the Playstation store for like 4 bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Technically speaking I can call myself an astrophysicist too, that doesn't mean I'm in a position to refute something that practically everybody who is one agrees with based on abso-fucking-lutely nothing beyond hyperbole and gut feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
WRONG!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
If you don't agree with it 100%, then you are a flat Earther.
And probably a racist.
40 years ago these same scientists were telling us to get ready for an Ice Age. Excuse me for being skeptical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenlaar
My point is that our understanding of things is fundamentally flawed because humans. There is simply too much we don't know, and may never know, about our Earth, our Universe, and our place in them.
There's a guy who went to school for 12 years to study fish, and has spent the last 25 years studying Cichlids in Africa...small, fresh water fish...and he still doesn't know everything about them. Over generations our body of knowledge expands, but there are always factors we don't consider...some because we don't understand the importance of them and so discount them, some because we don't even know they exist.
To err is human. This is nowhere so evident as in the world of science. Allowing our hubris to get ahead of our common sense does more harm than good.
I tried to take the standard deviation but my calculator kept spitting out "drink your ovaltine".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Not possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Can you cite one? Which is to say: one scientist who 40 years (or so) ago predicted global cooling and now predicts global warming. If you do (ha! ha!), I will cite one scientist who predicted warming in both eras, and we can continue until one of us is stumped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Whoa, whoa, whoa... that was all part of "Global Climate CHANGE" and therefore scientific fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Think of it this way. Do you need to know anything about the hyperfine structure of the atom to understand the mechanics of a curveball? No. Do you need to know anything about the human genome to treat a broken leg? No. Do you need to map California down to tenths of an inch to know the way to San Jose? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
You don't need to know everything about everything to know something about something.
I didn't mean exact same, I meant the same kind of scientists. The people who make a living studying these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Sounds good to me. So I don't need to know everything about climate change to know scientists are full of shit when they say we are going to kill ourselves in a few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cNodIDkiTw
I give you animated bears to dispute all of you flat earthers! And I mean flat earthers in the historical sense that... back in the day 99% of people thought the earth was flat... and 1% thought it round... guess who was right??
Because likening your anti science stance to people who were subjected to an anti science stance is hip and cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
We're not talking about curve balls and broken legs. We're talking about the Earth's climate and whether or not we should fundamentally change how mankind interacts with the globe. When you make statements like this it seriously undermines your credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
The video is 12 minutes long! No way you watched it! Now show them bears some respect!Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I'm quite familiar with xtranormal and have both seen and made all sorts of uses of it. You're not that original.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
You really don't get my sarcasm do you....Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I could say you're not that original either... but that would be rude, so I will not say you are not original.
These guys have it right. Rolling coal, it's called- converting your truck or whatever to burn excessive fuel so you can blow the exhaust on priuses and goddamn environmentalists. And mascots, I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbAhfThNoco
That does make more sense... but can you cite any studies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Does the earth move in a straight line through space? No. Therefore it's a curve ball, or at least a slider. Why else would God slack off after six days? His elbow hurt from all the curveballs. There's no verse in the Bible that suggests otherwise.Quote:
We're not talking about curve balls and broken legs. We're talking about the Earth's climate and whether or not we should fundamentally change how mankind interacts with the globe. When you make statements like this it seriously undermines your credibility.
Dismiss the comparison if you like, but do you know the mechanics of a curve ball from casual inspection? (And no, "because of the spin" does not count.) If not, why would you think you knew the mechanics of the Earth's climate from the same?Obviously we're not going to kill ourselves, Obama is going to kill us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I accused Dwaar of studying cosmetology, and I got this reputation comment:
If I had a retarded sense of humor, I might have found it funny.Quote:
You've apparently studied buttholeology and poopology. Well done, Dr.
You were trying to be funny. I got it. I'm just not going to watch conservative agitprop that I've seen before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
Your inferential skills are improving. Good work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Yeah, someone is obsessed with poop, ass, butt, and anus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
Why the hell not? It's even got some sciency-sounding words in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
Listen... no matter what subject it's on... talking bears are awesome and funny (sorry bears, but monkeys doing anything win out). It's damn right un-American to think otherwise. Probably racist and sexist too. And I know you are none of those things! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Warriorbird
I once watched a monkey finger bang his own ass. He then proceeded to give me the middle finger. I wasn't even mad, I was impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
HAHA... you have got to be making that up! I'm still laughing at the visual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
True story. It was at the Cleveland Zoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwaar
That's where the conservatives hang out right? They are on display in the cages?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Was it on Monkey Island?Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Planet of the Apes?
http://img.pandawhale.com/77789-kram...n-gif-vynA.gif
By which you mean Planet Earth, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
He was on Earth the whole time?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you! God damn you all to hell!
As low budget as the old Planet of the Apes movies seem... they were spot on with societal commentary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elantari
No Man! I mean THE monkey island.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
http://www.clueintocleveland.com/wp-...d-postcard.jpg
C'mon man, this is 2014. We've got it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb4eZ7Z5yk8
Latrin, what do you mean it's not possible?
Only one to two per cent of the world’s population has red hair but in Scotland the figure is about 13 per cent, or 650,000 people.
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However, the figure could fall dramatically – and even see redheads die out completely in a few centuries – if predictions that the country’s climate is set to become much sunnier are true.
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Dr Alistair Moffat, boss of genetic testing company ScotlandsDNA, said: “We think red hair in Scotland, Ireland and the north of England is adaptation to the climate. We do not get enough sun and have to get all the vitamin D we can.
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“If it was to get less cloudy and there was more sun, there would be fewer people carrying the gene.”
THIS SHIT JUST GOT REAL!
http://i40.tinypic.com/2dtniw9.jpg
At least the military's not denying climate change. Too bad the political chickenhawks don't follow their lead.
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While some in Congress call it a "hoax" or a "chicken-little scheme," the Pentagon continues to plan, with strategy documents outlining everything from how receding sea ice will open up new challenges in the Arctic to listing bases that will be affected by increased storms.
"The climate is changing," Titley writes in the closing of his Op-Ed. "We can do something about it. For the sake of our nation and the world, we must act."
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Originally Posted by cwolff
It's no wonder that the public at large look so favorably upon the armed forces while congress sits at 7% approval rating.
It helps that that Military generally operates under the guidelines of pragmatism and realism vs Congress adhering to idealism and self-enrichment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Congress is brimming with unchecked corruption and ignorance. Look at the recent case of members of the House declaring that congress has immunity from the SEC's investigation on inside trading, and that is just one such case amongst many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
They also have a plan for a Zombie apocalypse, and an Invasion by aliens. They likely have a plan for an attack by the Blob, Godzilla, giant robots, and Wizards and Witches.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
It's the Pentagon, they have to have a plan for everything. The pentagon's plan tho has nothing to do with fixing it, or stopping it, it's a "if this happens, this is what we will do".
How come you're so wrong all the time? Doesn't that ever bother you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Yeah.. cause you know.. the Pentagon is the epitome of straight forwardness and honesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
I mean.. they wouldn't spend tens of billions on a project NO ONE wants, would they? Not to mention the fact that most of the people that get to decide if we SHOULD build a specific weapon or platform, end up working for the people that get the contracts... no.. no corruption there.
Are you saying you're a zombie apocalypse denier? Because that's racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
So you are saying the Pentagon has a plan to stop global Warming and fix the problem???!!!??? Wow, that's fucking amazing. What is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I pointed out the pentagon has to make plans for EVERY eventuality. That's simply pragmatic. Not sure how exactly that makes me wrong.
But keep talking stupid, you are good at it. We actually missed your level of Stupidity, we were left with just Back's.
They're going to shoot it, duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...-tornadoes.jpg
Not the sacred fallback of the Republican party? They've been corrupted by the liberal scientists!Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
Explain how he's wrong and you are right in your assumption... because I believe reality is closer towards Jarvan in this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
It's the military-industrial complex our Fathers warned us about. Were those guys good or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
I'm not going to say they aren't above reproach or that the revolving door policy isn't an issue, because it is. But it isn't the Pentagon that has the final word on what gets funded and what doesn't. There are a number of recent cases where the Pentagon has informed congress that it doesn't need something but congress goes ahead with it anyways, because hey, that's more money and votes for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
This is an organization that has a Plan in case yellow Stone Erupts. They likely have a plan somewhere in case Mexico invades us and Squid people rise out of the Ocean to wage war on us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
The pentagon having a plan in case of Global Warming doesn't mean much.
Bradly. Fighting. Vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Androidpk
Enough said.
You fucking asshole, you're not supposed to talk about the Squidwards!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
If I recall correctly the reason they decided to keep the Bradley was because of the sequestration. It would have been cheaper to upgrade that than to continue working on a replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
You're an idiot. They're not planning for it in some thought experiment war-games type of way. They are actively dealing with it and the changes that the globe is experiencing because of it now. What you missed from the article is that this isn't a theoretical "what-if" for the USN. It's real, it's happening and they are adjusting missions and preparedness accordingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan