Of course you are! $1400 more free money and a huge raise to $15 an hour! This is your time!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Of course you are! $1400 more free money and a huge raise to $15 an hour! This is your time!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Honestly though, you wouldn't be. First of all, you're just not that smart to realize you've been lied to and the media certainly wouldn't tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You would continue to vote Democrat in hopes to get some free shit...
Are you saying the GOP doesn't give people or corporations free stuff?
You know he won't be able to answer this question, too, right? Stop asking such hard questions, we're going to melt down this poor old fucker's brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardwen
Something tells me you're the ignorant cunt here, which is absolutely not surprising. I have you ignored, yet I can still see your posts if I choose to. Just depends on how much stupidity I feel like subjecting myself to by reading what you write.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You see, when you have someone on ignore, their posts still show up and they're basically just collapsed. You can then choose to click "view post" and it will show you what they posted. Amazing, right? I know, this technology stuff is hard for you old timers. Perhaps you should try something more your speed, like walking uphill in the snow both ways to the old folks home.
Are you saying that the GOP's platform is as generous for handout programs as the DNC's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardwen
Let's look at the DNC's platform: https://democrats.org/where-we-stand...airer-economy/
Raise min wage to $15.00
Mandatory sick leave
Mandatory family leave
Mandatory medical leave
Childcare credits
Increase in Pre-K programs
Free broadband service
Increases in Affordable Housing programs
Tuition forgiveness
Free community college
Healthcare for all (in some form) including illegal aliens
That's the first few pages... I was tired and trying to watch the Bucs.
As usual, you offer nothing but wrong answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
Try again, retard. One day you will actually have something intelligent to say... but we both know it'll be on a complete fluke.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
So you have me "ignored"... let me guess, you close your eyes when you see my post?
Fucking retard does retarded things.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA OMG how the fuck is tgo calling that idiots death a murder? HAHAHAHAHAHAH
Holy shit. Shes not even a fucking martyr for the cause she believed in. you stupid broke brained fucking morons immediately turned around and slandered her as a secret undercover antifa super soldier. hahahhahahha holy fuck you are fantastically broken.
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GOP gave the richest Americans and Corporations a trillion dollars in tax breaks, Trump just gave farmers more then 100 billion in bailouts. 40 percent of all money made by farms this year was bailouts. GOP routinely gives massive tax breaks to profitable companies. You personally pay more in taxes then at least half the 100 largest corporations in the country.
Would you rather:
Be the chud who tasered himself in the balls and died?
OR
Be the chud trampled to death while carrying the Gadsden flag?
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Has Tgo posted any pics of himself at the capital the other day?
So the only difference is that the free shit they give out appeals to you. Got it. The above things don't appeal to you because you're a shit stain of a human being and don't believe in humanitarianism. We understand that. Everyone for themselves. Greed is king. Gimme gimme gimme. You do realize that even before COVID, with a Republican president and a Republican congress, that the debt was still growing and was at its highest point ever, in spite of Trump's promises to reduce the debt? Where did that money go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Anecdotally, as someone who worked jobs when I was younger with no sick leave and a wage of $7-$8 per hour, you can go fuck yourself. My daughter was born when I was 20 and I was working construction for $8/hour (working for a shit head, probably someone just like you). They didn't give sick leave. I was at work the next day even though there were complications, she was born at 3:00 AM, all because I couldn't afford to miss a day and possibly lose my job. Of course, I make plenty of money now, have a job with unlimited sick leave, and I'm at almost 15 years in so that's 4 weeks of PTO plus company holidays. But I can still relate to the times I struggled, and realize that sometimes people need a little help, and no one's lining up to give it out, I promise. You're so out of touch with caring about people, and thinking that needing help is a sign of weakness, that you really are a piece of shit. Thought you should know. I know you won't care, because you're a piece of shit, and it won't change your mind, but yeah, you're still a giant steaming pile of shit.
And yes, I have you on ignore because I was testing it out one day and wanted to see what it did and honestly, most of the time I'd prefer not to see your posts because you offer literally nothing to anything, but sometimes it's fun to tell you how stupid and old you are. See, I'm not an ignorant piece of shit like you and don't speak about things I know nothing about... which you just so easily proved you do. Because you're an ignorant geriatric piece of shit. I also see your posts when I'm not logged in, because you know... user settings and such. Maybe some day you'll figure out this new fangled internet, dinosaur. Until then, kindly go fuck yourself with your own fist.
You personally will pay more in income taxes this year than all of my companies have paid in the past 15 years... combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardwen
Don't fall for the clickbait.
I know, I know.. you have me on ignore.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
Like everything else, you're bad at simple forum features too.
PS - Your sob story was so inspiring. I believe we should make mandatory $500 / hour, unlimited sick/PTO/Family leave. If you don't agree with me, then you must hate people and children.
Why do you hate the children?
You're so easily used. It's because you don't have a functioning brain.
Joe Biden 2020: "Vote for me or you ain't black, Jack!"Quote:
"Now they starting 1965 out the same way, talking about "The Great Society" you know, anti-poverty."
"If you tell them now what's in store for 1965, they think you crazy. But 1965 will be the longest, and the hottest and the bloodiest year of them all."
"And it has to be. Not because you want it to be or I want it to be or we want it to be."
"But because of the conditions that created these explosions in 1963 are still here."
"The conditions that created the explosions in 1964, are still here."
"You can't say that there's not going to be an explosion and leave the condition. The ingredients are still here."
"As long as those ingredients remain you're always going to have the potential for an explosion on your hands." ~ MalcomX
Democrats: "Ride'n with Biden! Everything is fine now. First order of business, gender pronouns."
So if Dems are the racist ones and the GOP is the party fighting against racism, why do white nationalist groups all align with the Republicans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Why are they Trump supporters and not Biden/Harris supporters?
Umm...like the biggest white nationalist there is backed Biden this election, remember?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
For posterity sake. It probably had less to do with black people and more to do with Bernie Sanders being Jewish. That's when you could really smell the Clinton stench on Biden.
Why do Black hate groups like BLM align with Democrats? Why do so many blacks vote for Democrats that enact policies that make them into economic slaves, why do they vote Democrat, the party endorsing genocide against black babies?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Why are black people not Trump supporters because Trump's policies got more black people employed and off welfare than ever in the history of the US?
If Biden and the Democrats are serious about change for the poor, minorities and day 1 changes, Federal decriminalization should be the very first action. The impact our drug laws have on families across all spectrums are inhumane as fuck.
So Future Biden should get rid of the legislation that Past Biden made possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
You have to be a genuinely twisted person to think BLM is a hate group.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
And your second question makes it sound like you're implying black people are just too stupid to understand what's best for them.
Also, you completely failed to answer my question. You avoided it by whataboutisms to try to change the subject.
So grow a spine and answer the question: if Democrats are the party of racists, why do white nationalist groups support the GOP and Trump?
Yes. Drugs won, time to end the war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Fuck yeah they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOUSE
Hah! These two got me chucklinQuote:
Originally Posted by AnOrdim
I should have avoided responding to your "what about racism?" with "racists vote for you too!" it was stupid of me to have taken the race baiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
I really have been on the fence about what happened at the capitol, Portland..etc. On one hand I know it's wrong to handle these things with violence and on the other hand knowing it's not a matter of right or wrong but rather how long can a population endure 40+ years of inept leadership.
What I do know, as MalcomX clearly points out, black or white, what happened at capitol hill ain't shit if the delivering promise is some fucking gender pronouns and a $600 check. Uhuh, it's going to get fucking ugly.
ITT rabid chuds beat to death one of their own bastards:
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Solid content on this page. Thanks PB for the rep to bring me back to this thread.
Your obsession with me is sociopathic, but at least this time I got a laugh out of it.
Co-signQuote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Drugs took the war out back and put two in its head.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOUSE
Quit being fucking retarded. BLM is a racist hate group and anyone with a brain knows it. Their rhetoric is all about attack whitey, stealing is fine and burn down the government so we can have a Marxist utopia.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
And they don't embrace the Democrats because the Democrats embrace/manipulate blacks and the alphabet groups. Most white nationalists don't like that kind of thing and most people know that. You, however, continue to be 'tarded.
Now answer my fucking questions hypocrite bitch.
Yes, yes... if it weren't for the red rep, you wouldn't have even come back!Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
I would point out your complete lack of self awareness.. given your 15 years of stalking my underage daughter on social media... but I know you would come back with "BUT HE WAS MEAN TO SOMEONE ONCE! I HAD TO GET EVEN!"Quote:
Your obsession with me is sociopathic, but at least this time I got a laugh out of it.
Get registered with the state of Michigan. Do it for your neighbors. Also, seek a group.. like AA, but for people who are obsessed with underage children. I'm sure Joe Biden can give you a decent reference.
FBI Warns Of ‘Armed Protests’ At All 50 State Capitols In Lead-Up To Inauguration Day
A bulletin warns they could start across the country on Jan. 16, stoking fears of more bloodshed after last week’s deadly siege on the U.S. Capitol.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI is warning of plans for armed protests at all 50 state capitals and in Washington in the days leading up to President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration, stoking fears of more bloodshed after last week’s deadly siege at the U.S. Capitol.
An internal FBI bulletin warned that, as of Sunday, the nationwide protests may start later this week and extend through Biden’s Jan. 20 inauguration, according to two law enforcement officials who read details of the memo to The Associated Press. Investigators believe some of the people are members of some extremist groups, the officials said. The bulletin was first reported by ABC.
“Armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols from 16 January through at least 20 January, and at the U.S. Capitol from 17 January through 20 January,” the bulletin said, according to one official. The officials were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.
This is what happens when you downplay the seriousness of the white supremacist problem in this country.
You mean like the past 9 months? Seems par for the course. How come you're so upset now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Odd how scared you seem to get when the same tactics you didn't denounce are all of a sudden used by what you consider the "other side". Just sit down and take it. You had your four years. Don't start whining now.
Ignorant hypocrite.
I hope anyone arrested applies for legal aid from the funds set up by Kamala. The irony would make me chuckle - and the fear in your posts makes me laugh.
How did you turn this into a race thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
One.Trick.Retard.
Maybe you should put your virtue signaling #RESISTWHITESUPREMACY in your signature again...
I'm just glad you didn't have any kids.. your "white privilege" and racism dies with you.
He supports Black supremacy didn't you know? Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of those ignorant jackasses that kneeled when told to on the street to his overlords. Nothing like the subjugation of a person or peoples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And before you ignorant numbskulls do a #racist or some shit - subjugation of ANYONE by anyone else is wrong. I don't base it on color, I base it on humanity. You don't understand the difference, but what's new.
You and your ilk will have segregation by any means (current attempts based on "safe spaces" and "for their well being") - fact you racist pieces of shit don't see how racist you really are is astounding. But hey - I'm sure your hearts in the right place.
He supports Black supremacy didn't you know? Wouldn't surprise me if he was one of those ignorant jackasses that kneeled when told to on the street to his overlords. Nothing like the subjugation of a person or peoples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
And before you ignorant numbskulls do a #racist or some shit - subjugation of ANYONE by anyone else is wrong. I don't base it on color, I base it on humanity. You don't understand the difference, but what's new.
You and your ilk will have segregation by any means (current attempts based on "safe spaces" and "for their well being") - fact you racist pieces of shit don't see how racist you really are is astounding. But hey - I'm sure your hearts in the right place.
Yeah, people who take up arms against their government are the ones who are afraid. So I ask you. What are you afraid of? $15 minimum wage? Affordable healthcare for everyone? People having the freedom to be and marry who they want?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
What is it exactly that makes you want to kill your fellow Americans?
LOL.. your idiocy truly brings me joy. They must pass out some type of pamphlet or something at your "how to be a free thinking, caring communist" get togethers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Do you really think deflection and asking questions to avoid answering is a valid tactic? So simplistic and naïve. This what they teaching you? "How to win arguments when you can't win on merit?" LOL.
Your sudden concern and fear about violence makes me all warm inside LOL.
You're really stuck on that $15/hour min wage, aren't you? How exciting for you to finally get a raise! In 2 years, after the market fixes the artificially inflated minimum wage, you'll be crying for $25 because you are in the same financial shape you are in today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
And affordable healthcare? I don't think there's anyone out there clamoring for more expensive healthcare. Obamacare did NOTHING to make healthcare affordable.. in fact, it made matters so much worse.
And who can't marry whom currently? You do realize that it's been the law of the lands since 2015 that gay people can get married right? Or are you onto your next thing.. where you want adults to be able to marry kids or pets or inanimate objects?
I hope your sneakers have velcro.. I highly doubt you could tie them up by yourself.
What question did you ask, exactly, that he is avoiding answering? Helps to have an IQ over 10 if you're going to call people out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
And no, deflection isn't a tactic, except one used by trump fanboys. I'm still waiting for a rational answer to those 3 questions I posted about the whole Russia thing. Would you care to try?
If there was no Russia collusion (or whatever you want to call it):
1. Why did the Trump campaign not disclose contacts with foreign Government officials?
2. Once discovered, why did those same officials lie about said contacts?
3. Why did Trump obstruct at every chance he got to keep from testifying?
Or will you deflect because your low IQ keeps you from actually thinking critically?
Maybe I am just not understanding your jumbled way of asking questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
If you are asking me why I was not upset about the riots over the summer... I was very much against the violence. As has been stated over and over no one condoned the violence of those riots. No one in the democratic party or in any position of power encouraged those riots.
There were white supremacist agents involved in those riots who have been arrested that were trying to accelerate the civil war they are so eager to fight. One of them shot and killed a police deputy in cold blood.
People keep pointing at the criminal violence over the summer as some kind of justification for what happened at the US Capitol on Jan 6th. These could not be more different situations. Criminal activity springing out of large demonstrations is not the same as planning to storm the US Capitol in order to disrupt the counting of electoral votes based on American's votes confirming Joe Biden as the legitimate president of the United States. Not even close!
I believe what happened at the US Capitol on Jan 6th is directly tied to Trump's courting the white supremacist elements of this country for 4+ years. And for 4+ years people like yourself and PB and others on this board tried to downplay the warnings. You've all tried to distract from the reality that white supremacists have not only been on the rise in a public way but that they have been getting more organized and mobilized waiting for the call to arms that came on Jan 6th and for whatever you keep saying is happening next. And you're still doing it.
Oh you're getting in on it now too? LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
Keep trying little sheep. Keep trying. Next four years going to be fun to watch as you all get what you want. LOL.
Again your idiocy is astounding. All those donations set up must have been for church groups then. LOL. Keep trying. It's cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Fun part is, I don't have to go in depth. I just call you on your bullshit and you keep trying. It's cute.
"There were white supremacist agents involved in those riots"
"It was ANTIFA agents that caused the violence at the Capitol"
Weird.
I didn't turn this into a race thing. Trump did. And you downplayed all the warnings for years. GG. Blow yourself. You deserve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Hey buddy! - you go stand in your safe space and make sure all the POC's are in their assigned safe spaces. ROFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You actually believe you're not racist. Get out of here LOL.
So 0 out of 4 questions answered, and you talk about others deflecting? At least I can form my own thoughts. Perhaps Fox will publish some talking points on these things some day so you can parrot them.
You are talking about donations to a group in Minnesota who helps cash poor people make bail. I'm curious what you think happened there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Would it surprise you to learn that judges decide who is eligible for bail?
Or that all but three of the 170 people arrested during the protests between May 26 and June 2 were released from jail within a week. Of the 167 released, only 10 had to put up a monetary bond to be released; in most cases, the amounts were nominal, such as $78 or $100. In fact, 92 percent of those arrested had to pay no bail — and 29 percent of those arrested did not face charges?
Aside from all of that, how in any way does that justify Trump encouraging racist thugs to break into and ransack the US Capitol while democratically elected congresspeople, their aids, the press, and the cops guarding them all, were there to verify the electoral votes tabulated by the votes of the American people to confirm the legitimate win of Joe Biden as the president of the United States?
No, that's 100% on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
YOU literally turned it into race thing.
Also, I don't have to blow myself.. I've been married for going on 29 years.
And your dick is too small (according to Beth), so maybe just jerk yourself off with a pair of tweezers?
GG. Maybe with your new raise, you can buy yourself a cheap whore for a night?
LOL. Look at you trying. Bah bah little sheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
https://media2.giphy.com/media/81Ja1qE3lfmG4/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
LOL. Your attempts at insults make me chuckle. You keep on being you. Kneel down. Take it. Cause it's coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
Trust me, I'm going to have fun watching the next few years.
1% of the time, you make sense 100% of the time....Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
LOLOLOL. I don't care about attention. I just want you to answer the damn questions Mr. Painfully Obvious. I think along with the Parler ban, we should ban anyone over the age of 200 from the internet in general. Sorry PB, you're out, it's just too much for you to handle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Also, with 52k posts, I'm pretty sure you're the biggest attention whore here, but whatever you say.
ROFL. You're trying so hard. This is fun. Enjoy what's to come. You deserve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
Trying so hard? I'm typing words on a keyboard. Thinking isn't hard for some of us, unlike you. All you do is spout some incoherent, racist gibberish based in some fantasy land that isn't reality or Gemstone, so I have no fucking clue where your head is.... ah, wait, it's up your rectum per usual. Got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Seriously, answer the damn questions. It really shouldn't be that hard if "you're so smart". LOL.
ROFL. Look at you trying to fall back on the "racist" thing. LOL. Find a new playbook. That one is worn out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
And look at you trying to act all tough. HAHA. I love ignorant people that don't realize what's occurring. To easy.
Looks like Shaps has gone full Rocktard, its a shame he used to be one of the reasonable ones.
I'll be reasonable with reasonable people. I'm just done trying to be with unreasonable ones. More fun to just call them on their bullshit. The universe is inside us all and we can be many things, while still being ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
This is you in denial. Just like so many others. And that denial has allowed this to occur.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I have never denied you are a racist. The worst type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
You actually believe that minorities can only get through life from help by someone such as yourself, telling them what they need to do.
In the meanwhile, your life is a dumpster fire.
But you're a liberal... so you know what's best for them...
You know how I know you don't have a legitimate argument? You jump right into personal attacks. No one gives a fuck what you say about me on this message board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You could not be more off point. But you aren't known for your comprehension skills. You're a joke.
When I posted about resisting white supremacy Jan 6th is exactly why. Dipshits like you consistantly deflected, downplayed, ignored, and really just straight up lied to cover for them while Trump welcomed them for for their incredible amount of ass kissing attention.
Republicans have always shied away from accepting support from that block of white votes for years since they had the wealthy and white middle class. But as times change even that wasn't enough so here comes Trump to make a deal with the white devil in a shameless powergrab right in front of god and everyone.
Turning a blind eye to it has given America a black eye.
There was an actual terrorist attack on the US Capitol where people died, bombs were placed, and people ran around with plastic restraints hunting for Congresspeople. And they were sent there by the sitting President of the United States to attack another branch of government in order to stop them from certifying the election he lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
Why the hell are you still talking about BLM?
Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2...-lives-matter/
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said on a conference call with members Monday that there is "undisputedly" no evidence that people linked to Antifa participated in last week's deadly siege on the Capitol
https://www.axios.com/mccarthy-antif...0fa927137.html
An officer was gunned down. The killer was a ‘boogaloo boy’ using nearby peaceful protests as cover, feds say.
Quote:
As protests gripped Oakland on May 29, a white van pulled up outside a federal courthouse. A door slid open, and a man peppered the two security officers outside with bullets, killing one and wounding the other.
For a little over a week, the crime was a mystery. Was it tied to the protests just blocks away? Even after the suspected killer was dramatically caught in the nearby mountains eight days later, his motive was murky.
Now, federal authorities say the man, identified as Air Force Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was an adherent of the “boogaloo boys,” a growing online extremist movement that has sought to use peaceful protests against police brutality to spread fringe views and ignite a race war. Federal investigators allege that’s exactly what Carrillo was trying to do last month.
I do wonder. Those who keep standing behind Trump and keep claiming he's done nothing wrong or who keep deflecting so they can talk about literally anyone or anything else.
I wonder if there was ever a point in their lives where they could have imagined that one day they'd be defending a President who incited a mob to attack Congress in the United States Capitol building, and, while they were hunting the halls placing bombs, killing police offers, and trying to find Congresspeople to hurt or kill, told them he loved them, and that they were patriots.
And sent a tweet out to the world saying "This is what you get".
I wonder if they could ever have imagined that one day they'd look at a man like that and think- here's the one trying to save our country. People are way too hard on him.
I wonder if you have 2 functioning brain cells to rub together since you support Socialism and totalitarian censorship, the murder of the unborn, racism, sexism and the destruction of the very country that allowed you to hide your felonious family member for decades?Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
After 5 years, I still have yet to see you use the word "socialism" or "censorship" correctly in a sentence. But I'll also point out that you just pulled the distraction card again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
You can't even bring yourself to condemn Trump after he incited a fucking terrorist attack on Congress and his own Vice President to try to force them to stop certifying the election results. Even though he told the terrorists how special they were. Even though he was tweeting against his own VP while the mob was roaming the halls of the US Capitol building chanting "Hang Mike Pence!". Even though he told them they were patriots while they were killing cops. Even though he refused to activate the national guard for a few hours after the attack. Even though he was calling Congresspeople while they were cowering behind barricaded doors trying to figure out if they were going to die....to tell them they should push the certification back.
He never bothered asking if anyone was okay. He never bothered checking in on Mike Pence. The entire Presidential line of succession was in that building, and he could not have cared less.
He has yet to express a drop of regret for what happened. For the 6 Americans who are dead now because of it. He can't even say "I'm so sorry this happened".
You are so lost right now. You'll never realize it, but the rest of us are looking at you and feeling really sorry for you and everything you've traded in for this man.
You are one of the most pathetic creatures playing the most pathetic mind games with yourself that I've ever witnessed.
Says the man who openly admitted he stalked PB's underage daughter for years "just to see how she would turn out."Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Well argued point. Your hyperbole about what I presume is a year's past altercation surely makes you superior in every conversation. Right? Or it just makes you one note and boring. Maybe we should ask your last sexual encounter; was he one note? Was he able to satisfy your needs, or was he so obsessed about that thing you did a decade ago that he couldn't get hard. I'm guessing the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
See this is why Democrats are the absolute scum of the earth. They'll defend someone literally stalking an underage girl as long as they "vote blue no matter who!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Keller being a sexual predator who stalks underage girls should follow him until the day he dies. And if you were a decent person you would remind him on a daily basis of just how fucked up he is, but he's a Democrat and you're a piece of shit so you give a pass because "too much time" has passed.
I'm telling you. You're making a mistake trying to be reasonable with unreasonable hypocrites. Just call them on their bullshit and move on. They'll make excuses for everything and then acted offended and righteous when it suits them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
It's an old psychological ploy to get people to join their insanity. Just call them what they are and move on.
I'm telling you. You're making a mistake trying to be reasonable with unreasonable hypocrites. Just call them on their bullshit and move on. They'll make excuses for everything and then acted offended and righteous when it suits them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
It's an old psychological ploy to get people to join their insanity. Just call them what they are and move on.
Nice try. I think the "victim card" ploy is on page 12 of the handbook. Stop acting self-righteous all of a sudden. Hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Oh come on.. it was just a 1 time thing... over and over and over and over again for 15 years....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Nobody was talking about Richmond, asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Amazing, thoughtful rebuttal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
That must have taken you all night.
I know right? The election is over now, so democrats won't need them until at least the 2022 midterms.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Dude has one answer for everything, "socialism is the devil!". Lost your job, socialism. Stub your toe, socialism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
I was speaking on hypocrites there, but you think what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
i was speaking about the person you were talking to, I could have been more clear about that, my badQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
No worries. Found a nice montage of which I speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Maybe you hypocrites on here can defend it somehow. Especially around the 1:15 mark. ROFL. Bunch of batshit crazy ignorant sycophant's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDHbNEgZ1_Y
(no idea how to link actual vids to play in panel so added YouTube link)
Okay, are you disputing the people walking around with Confederate flags and Nazi paraphernalia were white supremacists?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
It could be that President Bush, Senator Romney, Representative Kinzinger, the FBI, and the DOJ are all hypocritical crazy ignorant sycophant's [sic].Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Or it could be that you overestimate your ability to distinguish between these two events.
LOL.. first excuse and deflection. So predictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
And then they get super mad over you not taking the bait it and decide that it means they're victorious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Then they stay super mad. Forever. Because deep down they hate themselves as a person.
Fun part is the next four years. All Dems - so going to be hilarious watching it unfold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Riiiiight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
So let's be really candid here- it's VERY clear that most of you loons get your news from exclusively right wing sources.
So if suddenly you're hearing a lot less about BLM after the election- then it's coming from your news sources.
It's kind of like that caravan of asylum seekers that was coming to attack America until literally the after the 2018 election.
What actually happened is Trump stopped talking about these things, so right wing media didn't feel the need to echo it anymore.
You can't run around telling everyone you refuse to read CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and the rest of the "lamestream" media and then pretend like you have any idea what is and isn't being covered in the real world.
They don't represent the peaceful protestors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
ROFL. As said, next four years going to be so much fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
It's not an excuse to point out the enormously broad coalition condemning the recent insurrection and President Trump's incitement of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
It's not a deflection to point out those condemnations came without qualification or "but what about..."s.
You clearly get a lot of pleasure out of thinking yourself above the partisan fray, but there simply isn't one here.
Stretch your mind out a little beyond your preconceived notions. You'll like the way it feels.
You're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
But they were the ones Trump was egging on while they attacked the US Capitol and roamed the halls hunting for Congresspeople.
They're the ones he refused to denounce for 30 hours.
So let's talk about those people. Seems pretty relevant.
LOL. I love how blind hypocrites are of their own hypocrisy. This is going to be a fun four years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Ha.. haha.. hahahaha. ROFL. We got another one, another one (shout out to DJ Khaled!). Hypocrite alert! Currently assuming the "caring about law and order support stance".Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
So looking forward to the next four years.
People do crazy things when some of the same people condemning them are pretty much guilty of dereliction of duty, organized crime, war crimes and general crimes against humanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
How many righteous men and women could you find in congress?
"DOJ says they are looking at “significant felony cases tied to sedition and conspiracy.""
https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/stat...90211695915011
I bet you think its the woman's fault she gets abused at home too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
"How could I be expected not to hit her?! She said things to me!"
You and the socialists here are frauds. You use the poor just like the minorities, the moment you should have their backs you turn on them like snakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Do you enjoy eating nasty Nancy's cunt as she eats $600 ice cream and rolls around in her 100's of millions?
The last thing I am concerned about is rebel jim bob and his flag. FFS. Don't be so fucking simple.
Could you even name one thing to support these claims? I doubt you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
You enjoy sucking Trump's dick? You know, the guy who is an actual billionaire?
In before the "I don't like Trump, but I do support almost everything he does. But I don't like him." "Just look at me try to distract from this major event by trying to point at things that happened months ago and are completely unrelated"
You're all fired. Pack your shit and wait for security to escort you out.
Finally!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
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You have got to be dumb if you don't think there are equally wealthy people in the GOP, not even including Trump. Seriously, how can you be this dumb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
This is a minor event, Trump is a symptom. I can't blame desperate people, for making desperate decisions after living under 30+ years of disparity that these people have governed over.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
You can get as pissy with me all you want, it won't change the reality of the situation.
I'm confused as to why anyone is talking D and R anymore, but continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
^Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Never gets it.
I don't know anything about Kizinger, but according to democrats, Bush was crazy and racist and all that from at least 2001-2009 and shouldn't be listened to by anybody, and Romney was crazy and racist and all that during at least the 2012 election cycle and also shouldn't be listened to by anybody.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Did democrats change their minds again? Please advise.
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Originally Posted by time4fun
Where are the BLM protests happening then? Oh wait, the election is over, that's right. Nevermind.
But please tell me where you're so convinced that I get my news from. Name like 3 sources so I can laugh at how wrong and stupid you are. Thank you in advance.
While we're on the topic of refusing to denounce things, it's so weird how not one democrat has denounced any of the riots that you idiots call "mostly peaceful protests" over the summer while small businesses went up in flames everywhere, including plenty of black owned ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
What's your opinion on that?
Just about everyone disagrees that this was a minor event, but continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
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Originally Posted by Methais
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Sept 7, 2020 - Asked by reporter Barbara Barr, “Do you condemn Antifa?” Biden responded, “Yes I do—violence no matter who it is.”
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May 25, 2020, Joe Biden wrote on his blog, “Protesting such brutality is right and necessary. It’s an utterly American response. But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not.”
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June 2, he said, “There’s no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses […] we need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction”
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Aug 20, 2020 which said, “The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable […] as a country we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight”
Go on.Quote:
Sept. 29 in Cleveland, Ohio, Biden reiterated his stance on violence and looting. At the 1:03:44 timecode here , the former vice president says, “I’ve made it clear in my public statements that violence should be prosecuted.”
How should I know what people from the other party are up to? Sheesh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
These people are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Desperate to advance white supremacy.
Desperate to keep their avatar in office despite his broad (and self-inflicted) unpopularity.
Desperate to go back to a(n imagined) time where they'd be praised for their spite and their hate.
And the reality of the situation is they will lose, as their bigotry always has.
The only question is how many more people have to die before that point.
The policies you openly support have killed more people of color than Jim Bob and his flag ever did. These people bombed more people of color than Jim Bob and his flag ever did. But hey, it's easy for you to blame Jim Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
You are truly, remarkably, a special brand of stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Jim Bob probably doesn't call him whatever pronoun du jour he wants to be called at this moment... you can't blame Latrinsorm for hating that! Correct pronoun usage is important to not hurt fee fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
What we do know is that if Jim Bob is a woman then Neveragain thinks less of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I think the same about people that support the extermination of black people by the tens of thousands every year and then call Jim Bob a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazar
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Originally Posted by drauz
It's pretty hard to take the moral high ground while thinking women are less than men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Correct pronoun usage is far more important than the middle class lining up at food pantries across the nation. There's no way the mob would storm capitol for that, never. Starvation among the masses has always lead to the support of their leaders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I don't think they are any less than men, I just don't confuse the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Thinking they are less capable mentally to do a task is the definition of thinking less of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
It's to late to backtrack now though, you've already said it and we've all seen it. Just like the racist comments that made you change your last PC name.
Just take it easy Anakin, you only think you have the high ground.
That's not what I believe at all, Drauz, you are more than welcome to go on believing men can breast feed. It doesn't change that the policies the Democrats support will kill more black lives this year than the KKK ever did, or Jim Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
What? I don't think men can actually breast feed... You however do think that women aren't fit to hold leadership positions, as you have said before. And then doubled down on these sentiments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
ROFL. Whew.. who knew you cared so much. LOL. I'm loving all of this sudden care and concern for your fellow citizens that's being displayed. Reminds me of the Portland Mayor's sudden sincere concern for his constituents. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
No, let's get this perfectly correct as to what I think. I think MOST women make poor leaders. There's exceptions, like, I would have voted for Tulsi Gabbard in a heartbeat. I think AOC has good leadership qualities, I just don't agree with her politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
https://media1.giphy.com/media/q3ZBNmc4uNNXq/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Given how much insanity you're willing to pretend you believe, the least I can do is pretend to believe myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
So maybe I am being way too hard on Trump and blowing this whole situation up.
Can you name one other time when it would have been appropriate for a sitting President of the United States to say to domestic terrorists "I love you, you're special, and you're patriots" and to the rest of the country "This terrorism is what you get (i.e. deserve)" during their terrorist attack?
Note- just to be fair, the terrorism should be in a building of equivalent importance to the Capitol building of the United States of America. And the Presidential line of succession needs to be at risk. And it should be serious enough that active bombs were left around (or some equivalently dangerous weapon), people should have been hunting down people as important as our Vice President to murder them, oh and the mob should have been there solely at the behest of said President.
Because if the rest of us are overreacting- then presumably you should easily be able to come up with another, equivalent domestic terrorism event that is as serious as the one described above, where it would have been okay for a US President to egg them on and tell them how amazing they were
And if you can't come up with something- you're a fucking delusional piece of shit with no moral center who thinks his manufactured rage is more important than our country.
But I'm sure that's not the case, right?
In before "BUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN TRUMP AND THE TERRORIST ATTACK!"
Men do breastfeed (cultural phenomenon) (i.e. the Aka)Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Men are capable of lactating (i.e....all of humanity, but not enough to, say, nourish a baby)
And Neveragain, who is enraged when you suggest he's a sexist piece of garbage, actually thinks women don't make great leaders. I guess he read that in the International Journal of Breibart.
LOL.. you just don't get it. All that blah blah blah to defend your position of "moral righteousness" when you're a blatant hypocrite. I never said what it was or wasn't. Let me spell out what I've been saying...Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
I am mocking you and your hypocritical bullshit about this event compared to others. You're full of shit, I know it, you know it.. and you seem to think you can act all concerned and pretend to actually care all of a sudden. It's pathetic watching you try and be concerned about the rule of law.
I'm going to enjoy watching you do logic flips for the next four years. As I said in earlier posts, the fact you don't see your own hypocrisy just makes me chuckle. It will be fun watching you defend shit which for the past four years you have condemned. What's worse, you think this is about Trump. LOL. Just move along little sheep, move along.
3 red reps for this truth comment. Democrats really are the worst of the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
"Don't pick on Keller! That child stalker is a saint!"
Fuck all y'all.
https://allears.net/wp-content/uploa...cepalm-gif.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
https://beta.documentcloud.org/docum...orce-jan-12-21Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Another organization to add to the list. Military leaders, political leaders, business leaders, the friggin' Pope have all said this event is substantially different.
They're all convinced, you're not. Okay, so what would you have to see for YOU to think this event is not comparable to BLM protests? Is there any piece of evidence you can imagine that would cause you to reconsider?
https://media1.tenor.com/images/dcdb...itemid=5875102Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
Since you asked nicely.. I'll point it out.. I do not care who violence is conducted against, I believe that it is bad either way. The only reason so many "leaders" are "upset" about this, is because the violence which they don't care about when done to civilians suddenly was directed towards them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
If a group is allowed to run free and terrorize the citizens of a Nation freely - as has been done over the past year - and the elected leaders dismiss it for political gain - that is WRONG.
Suddenly violence is directed towards the elected leaders - and oh no! - it's horrible - how could our citizens turn on us!!!
It's hypocrisy and bullshit. One version of violence cannot be tolerated and the other dismissed. If one type of violence is going to be allowed, then so should the other. Don't complain when it finally turns in your direction, if you ignored it previously.
The "leaders" are just scared shitless because all of a sudden the violence that everyday citizens have had to live with for the past year got directed towards them for one day. Bunch of bitches. Now they act all morally superior and talk about the rule of law - while they ignored it while it served their purposes.
You do understand it's all done so the "leaders" can maintain their power, status, and wealth. So long as they are not subjected to what the citizenry must endure on a day to day basis, they will ignore it. If their power is infringed upon - you see how they suddenly are fearful and spout moral platitudes about "unity" and "law and order". Hypocrites - all of them.
If you take the time to think of it from a humanitarian perspective as opposed to a political party affiliation perspective - it becomes pretty clear. It's not R vs D - or Trump vs Biden - or Conservative vs Liberal - or White vs Black.... it's about those with, and afforded power, subjugating the rest of us for their personal gain as opposed to serving the people.
Does that logic help you to "reconsider"?
Edit: Here's a little glimpse into the hypocrisy of which I speak - https://www.blackenterprise.com/blac...ting-requests/
Now tell me how important BLM is to Democrat leaders? There are plenty of examples of Republican leaders doing the same shit. LOL. Citizens and movements used as tools for the "leaders" to obtain and retain their positions, and people just buy into it. Sad to watch happen, but humorous also to see people so blindly led around by their own noses.
Please stop being so fucking stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
I'm begging you.
Just stop.
Finally, some honesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
To be fair, they're probably red repping you for the content of the majority of your posts rather than the content of that one in particular. Just sayin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Oh and Fuck you too.
You first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
No you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
No you.
I know you are but what am I.
No, I know YOU are but what am I.
etc. etc.
We ever find this missing post? It's certainly not in the thread where we discussed Russian collusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archigeek
Looks like someone is claiming something that never actually happened in an effort to look blatantly biased.
Maybe I'm wrong though.. maybe it's in some other thread... but it's not in the Russian collusion thread where you made your opinion known (and it wasn't an eye roll towards the Democrats either...)
Shut up Parkbandit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Shut up Doyle Hargraves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
LOL. Good to have some levity in discussions such as these. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Shut up Longshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://i.imgur.com/z4Wf6pa.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
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Originally Posted by Methais
I have to stop you here - I didn't ask why you thought the two were the same though, or why you thought someone else thought they were different. I asked what you would have to see for YOU to think they were different. Surely you can admit that there have been times in your life where you came to a conclusion that later turned out to miss the mark, right? I'm asking you to imagine that happening this time, and what piece of evidence or testimony would have gotten you from now to then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
To reiterate - I am not asking you whether you think someone else is a hypocrite, or blind, or a sheep. I've heard all that from you already, in great detail. I am asking you whether it's possible for YOU to imagine reconsidering YOUR conclusion.
My position is that violence is not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I've maintained that the whole time.
I'm just okay with violence if that is the ruleset people want to live under. Simple terms: If you do violence to me, I will return the violence. That doesn't mean I like it. It doesn't mean I want to. It doesn't mean I'll start it. But it does mean, if those are the rules you wish to engage under, then I will do so as well.
My issue is the feigned outrage over one instance of violence as compared to another. If violence is okay under certain circumstances, then it is under others. If not, then not. I lean towards wanting a world where violence is condemned regardless, but others like to pick and choose. I'm just okay if that's the direction they want to go. Just don't complain when it comes back on you.
And to directly answer your question: I am always open to reconsider my conclusions or thoughts. So long as the rules/laws/auspices under which we are engaging are clear and adhered to.
Edit: For some reason people try to read what I say and think I somehow think what occurred at the Capitol is okay. It's not and I've said as much. I'm just not surprised. I dislike the current outrage, when for months normal citizens have lived under threat of violence and rioting for months - and OUR elected officials downplayed it or made excuses. When normal citizens are subjected to such violence, don't all of a sudden - as an elected official - get all "law and order" or achieve "moral clarity" when it comes to you. They should have been protecting YOU and me, and every normal constituent they govern. Not picking sides on who's allowed to do violence and who's not.
There is a kernal of truth to this that continues to metastasize into libel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Years ago (circa 2007 or 2008) I told PB he is a negligent parent and his daughters would wind up with daddy issues because of it. He got super triggered and has been obsessed with me since then.
I stopped posting on the PC and forgot PB existed.
I returned the the PC and PB continued to be obsessed with me.
I knew his trigger so decided to see if my prediction was correct. I knew his name (which I've never disclosed to anyone, despite claims that I have "dox'd" him) and easily found his oldest daughter's public facebook profile. She was a college student (not a minor) and appeared to be well adjusted.
Unable to claim I was right, I did the next best thing and congratulated him on having a well-adjusted daughter despite his negligent parenting. He got triggered again and has led this weird crusade to get the gang of miscreants to allege I am at best a stalker and at worst a child molester.
With the wisdom of age, I've decided to just block PB and have one less unredeemable asshole in my life. It's imperfect since reputation comments are not blocked, but it's good enough for now.
I don't know the full details, so won't comment on the specifics - but tracking down anyone from any online forum should not be the status quo in my opinion. Sure we have heated discussions and talk trash to each other on here, but to impose on someone's actual personal life - regardless who does it - should not happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Edit: That's my opinion. I'm sure some might view it differently.
I would definitely have just blocked PB back in 2008 if I had been more mature, but I wasn't. I regret that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
I didn't impose on anyone's personal life other than to troll PB.
As said, I don't know the specifics so won't comment either way. That's between you and him. I was making a general statement. We all do things we regret and later atone for hopefully. None of us are above that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
I just hope the talks we have on here, even though they do get contentious - and yes I egg it on quite a bit when I'm in the mood, so I am not above the insanity - are just talks and ideas going back and forth. Discussion and debate online should not carry over to a persons real life - all was trying to say.
FTFY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
Can't help but notice you changed the reason you decided to stalk my underage daughter's social media... did it finally not make any sense to you as well?
Better luck next time, scumbag.
Normal people know this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Normal people know that it's wrong to dox someone you politically disagree with.
Normal people know that it's wrong to dox someone's underage daughter because you disagree with him.
Normal people know this. But Keller isn't normal. He's a scumbag.
He needs to be on a registry so people with underage children can avoid him.
Yeah they do this a lot. It's the go-to strategy to change the subject from politics when they know they're backed in a corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
I'm not surprised you would side with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
You pretend to take the high road, but when it comes down to it.. as long as they agree with you politically, you let their bad behavior slide.
Case in point: Androidpk. You flip flopped on him as soon as he changed from alt-right to alt-left.
You're so easy to manipulate... because when it comes down to it, you have no moral compass.. you just have the liberal mentality of politics above all else.
What are you thinking doxxing means in this exchange?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Did I miss a part where he gave out your personal info as well?
Does anyone else remember the years the GOP spent holding dozens of investigations into Benghazi? They were ready to hang Clinton for having been Sec of State while a terrorist attack on the other side of the world killed 4 Americans.
Now 6 people are dead from a domestic terrorist attack on the US Capitol Building that was an attempt to stop the election from being certified. And they were gathered, incited, and pointed to the Capitol by a sitting Republican President who told them he loved them, that they were patriots, that they were special, and that this is what people get when they try to "steal an election" (which is ironic) while they were roaming the halls looking for Congresspeople to murder.
And now they're wondering why everyone is being so mean to him and started telling us we should really stop talking about this less than week after it happened so we can "heal as a country" and "unite".
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised. They wanted to hang Clinton for having a private email server when there was no evidence she was doing it to hide anything, but they haven't said a word at the rampant private email server use among Trump's family and by Mike Pence himself.
They howled about corruption when Obama spoke to Lynch on a tarmac for 10 minutes but have been completely silent as Trump has been directing Barr to stop the prosecution of his friends, attack his political enemies, and after he relentlessly attacked Sessions for following protocols to recuse himself from am investigation into a campaign he was a part of.
They kept claiming they were the "Law and Order" party while the US Government was sending military assets in to use force against BLM Protesters fighting for racial justice but shrugged their shoulders over the attack on the Capitol by Trump supporters trying to stop our democratic process and to kill members of Congress. Bonus points for not saying a single word about Trump using Pardons to get his friends off the hook as an obvious bargain to get them to stay quiet during the Russia investigation.
And after months of screaming about a "stolen election"- they cheered Trump on while he was calling Georgian election officials demanding they change their vote tallies so he could win and called Republicans in Congress who were systematically voting to overturn the electoral count for every swing state where Trump lost.
They've been having mental break downs over "totalitarian" violations of "free speech" by private entities booting a customer off for failing to follow its terms of service and for playing a role in helping people plan for a domestic terrorism attack while sitting back and doing nothing, and now want the US Government to try to force private companies to host speech that promotes violence and terrorism just because it's conservative speech (which is an actual violation of free speech).
And they run around like scared little children screaming about "fake news" from any outlet that isn't strictly hard right and then spend all of their time getting news from these hyper conservatives outlets who have been spreading dangerous conspiracy theories about our election, about COVID, about the terrorist attack, etc.
One of the benefits of having a political ideology that's based on paranoia ("everyone who isn't us is out to get us!"), is it lets you justify anything.
"One of the benefits of having a political ideology that's based on paranoia ("everyone who isn't us is out to get us!"), is it lets you justify anything."
I've never seen someone so aptly describe themselves. Of course you'll say "No you are!", but that's the insanity of it.
You really don't understand how controlled you are. You actually believe you are right on all things, and all things are black and white.
One the few times I'll actually address something with my past, but one of those incidents you listed I was personally involved with and another an ancillary part of. I know what happened. What people are told is told through a political lens and absorbed. It's absurd to think just because what "your side" or "their side" tells you is either wrong or right - because people like you will take what they want, regardless of the fact - and make it what you want it to be.
Yes. He posted my information as well as my company information on this forum. Granted, much of it was wrong, but this was back in 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
I reported it and Kranar deleted it.
Well, thats a pretty shitty thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
OH and the foundation! Remember how Clinton was a horrible person who was using a public foundation with her name on it as a "pay to play"/"slush fund" scheme despite no actual evidence of it?
And then remember how it turns out Trump's private foundation actually was being used as a pay to play/slush fund scheme and got shut down?
Not a peep from Republicans.
There have just been so many of these situations, it's really hard to keep track of them all.
As said - you'll see what you want to see, because you're so adherent in the idea of your righteousness. Regardless of what's presented to you. That's the sad part of it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
He will have an excuse for it... "He made fun of TheE not having a job!" or "PB is obsessed with me!" or "He deserves it because he's a TROLL!"Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
But whatever excuse he makes up, it's not on the same level as his actions.
This alllllllllllll comes from him not being invited back into a World of Warcraft guilt... which is fucking mentally ill crazy. 15 years later...
It's also not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
The most I did was begin referring to him by his first name, which is a very common name for an American male.
He wants so badly to be a victim that he exaggerates and or lies.
Like I said, he is a sociopath.
I forgot his go to excuse: "I never did that!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
I'm sure Kranar can look back at the history and see.
I remember it because Keller did a google search on how much my company made the previous year and posted it.. which was magnitudes off.
Keep on being a scumbag though. You'll never, ever change because it is literally who you are.
Armed guards in the US Capitol, 8 foot fencing with razor wire, metal detectors at the doors to our democratic institutions. Whoever wanted tears are getting them. This fucking sucks.
Should have always been armed guards in the US Capitol as well as metal detectors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So you just saying "I was sort of, kind of involved in or two things I won't actually identify, and so you're wrong" is an argument without an actual argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Controlled is being in a state where you refuse to consume any news that doesn't come from hyper partisan, far right sources because they've told you that all sources that *aren't* hyper partisan and far right are secretly trying to trick you. That's what being controlled looks like.
And let's be blunt here: any time someone tells a conservative they're wrong or tells them no, there's immediately some grand conspiracy theory about how someone, some thing, some organization, some industry is secretly out to get conservatives. Can you give me an example of Trump being criticized or conservative ideology being questioned where there wasn't some corresponding paranoid conspiracy theory making conservatives out to be innocent victims?
Let's look at just some of the stuff floating around right now:
1) A global pandemic comes to town that threatens hundreds of thousands of lives and our entire medical infrastructure. Everyone else is trying to keep us safe, and Republicans decide it's a "democratic hoax", and the WHO is part of the hoax (and apparently literally every government and medical organization in the world is in on it), and the CDC is making up numbers because hospitals are secretly out to get more money, oh and the vaccines will rewrite your DNA or have microchips or whatever insane thing they're running with today.
2) Non-partisan Fact Checkers tell Conservatives they're wrong sometimes. But Conservatives can't be wrong obviously, so those fact checkers are part of a secret liberal plot to trick you and make conservatives look bad!
3) Ditto on all non-partisan media, which doesn't really exist apparently because all journalists are secretly liberals with liberal agendas that are more important than being journalists I guess?
4) Social Media platforms finally start removing accounts and Pages that spread misinformation and promote violence....BUT ACTUALLY that's just a cover for their coordinated Silicon Valley attack on conservatives!
5) Parler gets booted by several vendors as the next step in the Silicon Valley fascist attack on conservatives and not, for example, because it refused to follow its ToS with them and allowed people to plan terrorist activity on the platform with no attempts to remove the content...which turned into an actual domestic terrorist insurrection.
6) Trump lost the election, so there must have been the largest and most complex massive voter fraud campaign in American history that included cooperation from every single Democratic alive, every county election official, every Republican election official in states Trump lost, Dominion, and almost 90 Judges (roughly half of which were appointed by Republicans, several by Trump himself). Yeah, sure, Republicans on every level (Including Trump) all massively outperformed the polling, but c'mon...it's so obvious what happened, right?
7) Trump incites his supporters to violence on the same day and at exact time that Congress is certifying the election he lost, then he points them to the Capitol and tells them this is their last chance to save their country. BUT obviously the real attack was a false flag operation by Antifa. Or BLM. Or Communists or whatever. Worst part is the FBI came out and said "Actually no, it was Trump supporters". So obviously the government was in on this too.
8) The DoJ refuses to prosecute Clinton and other political opponents of Trump? Then it has the nerve to ACTUALLY investigate a campaign with dozens of contacts with the foreign enemy who had run the largest election interference campaign in US history to get that campaign elected?? Well obviously there's a massive deep state cabal in the government out to get Trump!
9) BLM is secretly a Marxist operation to attack America!!11!. I mean come on, someone uncovered footage of 3 people who helped start it saying they were "Trained Marxists" in some unknown context. Okay yeah, none of them are involved anymore, and BLM doesn't really have centralized leadership. Oh and Marx is fundamentally incompatible with the beliefs of BLM. BUT...BUT...COMMUNISTS PEOPLE!
10) Oh, and Democrats are part of a secret Satanic cult of cannibals who prey on children. Clinton herself was a big part of it because...there's a pizza shop somewhere out there I guess?
11) Sandy Hook obviously wasn't a real shooting. And clearly the families and friends of the people who died and were otherwise terrorized couldn't be THAT mad. Any idiot can see they hired protesters to pretend they were mad.
12) Russia definitely didn't hack our elections oh and over 250 government agencies. The entire State Department, the FBI, the CIA, every private security firm looking into this, and every major Academic researcher looking into this are all just trying to make Trump look bad (somehow?), and it was OBVIOUSLY China.
13) Democrats trying to give people health care? NO. They're trying to turn us into a communist country and will be killing people off (mostly conservatives) with death panels! Sure there's nothing in the ACA about death panels deciding people can't get care, and yeah the core concept of the ACA is what the Heritage Foundation recommended. But still. COMMUNISM. DEATH PANELS.
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Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I was rather surprised by how insecure the Capitol building was in this day and age. I would imagine that the objection to securing it may be centered around preserving the buildings history and whatnot, but I'm not sure that holds up at this point. Screw historical significance, we need some safe rooms, guard posts, and 100 other security measures in place there.
Part of the insecurity of it was simply the right people standing down, or failing to give orders to the right teams, essentially opening the gates. But a lot could be done to harden the building, outside of dealing with that personnel problem.
It's not metal detectors at the entrance to the building, they put them at the entrance to the floor of the house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Seems stupid, pointless, and just something to provoke stupid republicans. Gives zero actual protection for House members.
T4F,
That wall of text, for a simple statement about how you'll do anything to protect your ability to be correct is proof enough. I was pointing out how you believe what you want, regardless of what information is presented, and you will continue to do so. That was all I said.
As for saying what I have or have not done, I don't fall back on that, or try not to, in most discussions. It just so happened that two examples you gave in that list... one I was personally involved in and another ancillary to it. I said "I know what happened" and explained what you see, and choose to believe, wouldn't change if I were to go into it.
I don't disagree with anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Like I said when this story first broke.. it was either complete incompetence to the people who's job it was (and they should at the very least lose their jobs).. or it was done in a concerted effort to have the events play out like they did.
Either way, people should be held accountable and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Ah, that's true. I thought that is what Backlash was talking about... at the entrances.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Thats whats so sad about all this. We lived in a country where our democratic landmarks were safe. The atmosphere of freedom in our country has now changed. The atmosphere of safety and peace are falling away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
This affects you, me, PB, Shaps, T4F, everyone here regardless of political ideology or no political ideology. We've lost our peace, safety, and freedom.
Trump managed to shatter all of it with his lies.
Easy does it, Drama Queen. It doesn't affect anyone who doesn't actually work at the Capitol. You're going to be ok. Dry those tears up, Cupcake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Most of the security items you mentioned should have been in place since 9-12-01 and frankly, I'm surprised they weren't.
As far as our "Democrat landmarks were safe", I don't remember you bemoaning when the Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial and countless other landmarks were defaced and vandalized. So weird.
Sad that you blame it on Trump, not everyone who is ultimately responsible for him being there in the first place. Which is, us, the American people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
I think we should go the other way with it. Require all house members to be proficient with a firearm, have a CCP, and carry on the floor of the House.Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Lets be clear, Trump attaining the presidency (which is the only thing he's ever done or said that surprised me) was not solely the fault of the American people. Let's not forget Russian & Chinese intelligence (among others), Republican efforts to suppress votes, and I'm sure we can come up with a few other things that are now well documented as having influenced the 2016 electoral result. It was not simply the will of the American people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
I disagree. While I do hold members of the republican party who went along with Trump's rape and abuse of our highest office the voters could not have known it would come to this. And what I mean by "this" is our democratic institutions falling because Trump will not let go of the lie that the election was rigged against him. Trump is not fighting for the voters, or America, he is fighting for Trump, and taking everything down with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
Exhibit A: Russia made me do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Exhibit B: Only they do evil things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
So when some lunatic who managed to get elected to congress starts the firefight they can all have a shoot out? You know the story of how Caesar died?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Capitol police, yes. Everyone else? No way.
Exhibit C: People are incapable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Alright, let's talk about the laws under which we are engaging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
In the US Code we have laws against assault with the following penalties (18 USC 113):
-assault with intent to murder, up to 20 years
-assault with intent to commit a non-murder felony, up to 10 years
-assault resulting in serious bodily injury to a partner or someone younger than 17, up to 5 years
-assault without those or other specified* intents or results, up to 1 year
We also have laws against murder, with the following penalties (18 USC 1111):
-murder in the second degree, up to life
-murder in the first degree, up to death
We agree these are all violence.
We agree these are all not good.
While we may disagree on any particular penalty here, surely we agree that different penalties are appropriate for these different violences, right?
Okay. Now look again - intent, to a. We have an extremely detailed and well-settled hierarchy that often depends on to whom the violence is done, why the person is doing the violence. This has been true long before Donald J. Trump or any of us was born, it'll be true long after we're dead. We have also since the very beginning of our country decided that violence against the government is especially heinous - it's literally the only crime defined in the Constitution! This isn't some post facto justification, these are the clear rules we've all been perfectly happy to adhere to our whole lives. Which brings me back to my asterisk:
*18 USC 111 specifies that if there is an assault that against a normal citizen like you or me would only carry a penalty up to 1 year, but is instead an assault against a member of the government, the penalty goes up to 8 years. If the assault against a normal citizen like you or me would only carry a penalty up to 10 years, against a member of the government the penalty goes up to 20 years.
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But maybe you don't agree with any of that.
Maybe you think we should Rubicon III it and any act of violence should carry the same penalty.
And I'm not telling you what you should or shouldn't believe.
All I'm telling you is that the definition of hypocrite isn't someone not believing what you believe.
And almost all Americans and absolutely all of our law don't believe as you propose.
They can completely coherently have one response to BLM and another to insurrection.
Because they wrote all the rules down long before any of this happened, and that's what the rules unambiguously say.
Use the laws when convenient, ignore them when they are not. Our politicians do it very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Edit: Also I'm speaking more from the perspective of.. I would never initiate such violence, but if it were attempted on myself.. then I'm okay meeting violence with violence to defend myself. Or if people are committing violent acts against an innocent, I'm fine with violence as a deterrent also. The thing I hate is when people create rationales for certain types of violence, then say "wait you can't commit violence back"!
I wouldn't trust most House members to operate a pocket calculator, let alone a firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Given that the law explicitly says that violence against politicians is worse than violence against normal citizens, it would seem it is you who are ignoring laws when convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Oh well. I tried.
No, I just don't have any compunctions about titles. I agree to adhere to the laws of the land. If those laws are being broken by those in power, then they abdicate the afforded title and position they hold. They're citizens, just like we are. Not above us. I feel that way on many issues and the way politicians create laws which they exempt themselves from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
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Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
At least if capitol police is compromised, and if every other security force involved is told to stand down, congresspersons would be able to defend themselves with something more than ball-point pens.
On a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the creepiest, how creeped out by you do you think PB's daughter would be if she knew about all that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keller
To be fair, she needed someone to stress test her industrial sized cactus dildo collection on, and pk needed a couch to crash on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
I'm too lazy to do it, mainly because you're an amoeba, but perhaps someone else will dig up and repost your plethora of "I'm so scared" posts that you'd barf out anytime Trump took a dump, going all the way back to right after he beat Hillary in 2016 when you said, "I've never been more scared politically in my life."Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
gg accidentally showing your cards, retard.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01...res-are-opened
It just keeps getting more ridiculous. Apparently there’s strong evidence that Republican congressmen helped the insurrectionists in advance.
Well I mean, the activities at the Capitol would be what I'd expect and in much larger numbers if an election was actually stolen.
So these people believe, truly believe it was stolen, even tho there's no evidence. Wtf do you do with that kind of stupidity?