Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

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Thread: Terrorists break into US Capitol Building
Look at you, asking someone else to be less emotional. Zero Self Awareness.

So to be clear, you're comparing me being emotional about hundreds of thousands of needless deaths to Tgo01 being emotional about someone being banned from posting on a website...

...and I'm the one with zero self awareness?

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Business Insider: growing evidence of inside partipation in riot. Some foreign law enforcement calling it a coup attempt.

I'm sure none of you remember me rolling my eyes when the Hillary camp claimed Russian interference. I posted that meme of the guy sticking a pipe in his own front spokes and blaming Russia. Call it what you want, but there was obvious tacit approval by some insiders. The truth will come out, and some people in positions of police and government authority will be going down.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-police-2021-1

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Business Insider: growing evidence of inside partipation in riot. Some foreign law enforcement calling it a coup attempt.

I'm sure none of you remember me rolling my eyes when the Hillary camp claimed Russian interference. I posted that meme of the guy sticking a pipe in his own front spokes and blaming Russia. Call it what you want, but there was obvious tacit approval by some insiders. The truth will come out, and some people in positions of police and government authority will be going down.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-police-2021-1

In before lol derp anonymous sources derp derp derp

[time4fun]

Oh hey look. The dumb cunt who can’t answer the tough questions I ask of her and claims she has me on ignore and only sees my posts when someone else quotes then is once again responding to a post of mine in which someone else didn’t previously quote it.

Honestly Tgo, if "dumb cunt" is how you open then you really don't have much to offer.

I will give you this though. I didn't catch any questions you had for me, and yes you are on ignore. And yes I have, over the last few days, looked at some of your messages as a way to get more insight into people like you.

But go ahead and politely ask me whatever it is you feel like I ducked, and I will give you an earnest answer.

[time4fun]

I just did a thought exercise in another thread, and I'm going to put the other thought exercise here as it's specifically relevant to this.

There are clearly people who feel like Democrats/liberals are taking this entire situation out of context and are overreacting. They deserve a chance to explain. And it's incumbent on the rest of us to take their earnest answers seriously.

The rules of the exercise are this: No whataboutism. No "BUT DEMOCRATS!" No "BUT REPUBLICANS!". This is about the specific situations in the thought exercise.

Exercise

Imagine that Hillary Clinton had won the 2016 election and had lost the 2020 election.

Now imagine she had been devoting a significant amount of her energy to convincing her supporters that the election had been stolen from them. Imagine that hand recounts hadn't found any significant irregularities, 5 dozen Court cases on the subject had failed, and that every county and State in the country had certified their results. Now imagine the Electoral College had already voted for President Elect Donald Trump.

Imagine that Clinton spends two months after the election throwing out endless conspiracy theories, which had been thoroughly debunked by both non-partisan and conservative news outlets and fact checkers. Imagine she then started trying to convince her fellow Democrats in Congress to vote to overturn the election results of the states she lost, and that she started telling people that her Vice President, who was soon going to preside over the Congressional certification session, had the authority to overturn the results himself, despite having access to the best legal minds in the country and knowing for a fact it wasn't true.

Now imagine that Clinton decided to gather as many of her supporters as possible in DC on the same day and at the same time Congress was going to be certifying the results of the election- within very easy walking distance from the Capitol building where the session was being held. Imagine that during this "Save America" march she holds, she and several top allies tell the crowd that the election has been stolen, that their democracy needs to be saved, that they need to show strength and never give up, that today was their last chance to stop Congress from stealing the election, and that her Vice President had the authority to stop the steal but had chosen not to. Imagine others tell them "We're coming for you Congress!" and "Today is trial by combat!" while at the same time knowing that there were armed Antifa groups in attendance.

Now imagine she points that massive crowd of angry and armed supporters to the Capitol building while Congress was in there voting to certify the election results.

Fast forward an hour, and they've overpowered police and have started to overtake the Capitol. Congress is barricaded and hiding from the violence, and it's reported by both conservative and non-partisan media that Clinton is actually excited about what's happening. Imagine she fails to condemn the violence that's going on and for 90 minutes refuses to give the National Guard authorization to mobilize and help quell the riot. Imagine President Clinton finally comes out with a statement and a video asking the people occupying the Capitol building and terrorizing Congress (Also chanting about hanging her Vice President) to go home, but at the same time she's telling them the election was stolen from them, they're patriots, she loves them, and that they're special. Imagine she sends out a tweet saying 'this is what you get for stealing an election from us!" during it.

Imagine that while this was going on, Clinton is calling key Democratic Senators (who were still behind barricaded doors or hidden in secure locations while the riot was going on) and asking them to push off the certification without a word to their safety. Imagine she doesn't even check in on the safety of her Vice President. Imagine it takes her about 30 hours before she finally-, some of which are activ under pressure from her own staff- puts out a video condemning the violence.

Imagine they found pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and semi-automatic weapons in the area, brought by her supporters, some of which are known, active Antifa members. Imagine 5 people died. Imagine she never once showed any concern or regret for the people hurt and killed or the fact that the US Capitol Building was attacked for the first time in 200 years.

Q1: Did she do anything wrong? Is she dangerous? Should she continue to have the powers of the Presidency in her hands? Is your answer different from your answer for Trump? Why or why not?

Q2: Imagine that Clinton's supporters and liberal news outlets are starting to tell people that the riot was actually started by white nationalists looking to cause problems. Imagine that non-partisan and conservative media have fact checked this and stated there's no evidence of it. Imagine the FBI comes out and also says there's no evidence of this. How credible would you find these claims about white nationalists? How is that answer the same or different from your response to claims that Antifa was behind the attack on the Capitol? Why or why not?

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You know... if someone I looked up to and trusted turned out to be lying to me for 4 years I'd be super pissed. If someone I held in high regard made promises to me for 4 years and never delivered I'd be furious. If this same person asked me for money for all these things, repeatedly, then delivered nothing I'd be raging. So in that sense I have some amount of sympathy for people who feel that way. In the end, we all got the bad end of the deal.

[Tgo01]

You know... if someone I looked up to and trusted turned out to be lying to me for 4 years I'd be super pissed. If someone I held in high regard made promises to me for 4 years and never delivered I'd be furious. If this same person asked me for money for all these things, repeatedly, then delivered nothing I'd be raging. So in that sense I have some amount of sympathy for people who feel that way. In the end, we all got the bad end of the deal.

You're a lying sack of shit because Democrats have been fucking you over in these ways your entire life yet you still vote blue no matter who.

[Parkbandit]

I'm sure none of you remember me rolling my eyes when the Hillary camp claimed Russian interference. I posted that meme of the guy sticking a pipe in his own front spokes and blaming Russia.

You're right.. I don't remember that. I remember you posting 11 times in the Russian collusion heating up thread.. sure didn't read like you were rolling your eyes at it...

Maybe you posted it in another thread?

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You're a lying sack of shit because Democrats have been fucking you over in these ways your entire life yet you still vote blue no matter who.

I know this is a tough time for you. Try to take it easy. I'm plenty happy with my votes and don't feel as though I've been lied to thank you very much.

[Parkbandit]

Honestly Tgo, if "dumb cunt" is how you open then you really don't have much to offer.

I will give you this though. I didn't catch any questions you had for me, and yes you are on ignore. And yes I have, over the last few days, looked at some of your messages as a way to get more insight into people like you.

But go ahead and politely ask me whatever it is you feel like I ducked, and I will give you an earnest answer.

I don't think you understand how the ignore feature works on this forum..... Are you really that fucking stupid?

What a dumb cunt.