Terrorists break into US Capitol Building

[Parkbandit]

[Latrinsorm]

Since you asked nicely.. I'll point it out.. I do not care who violence is conducted against, I believe that it is bad either way. The only reason so many "leaders" are "upset" about this, is because the violence which they don't care about when done to civilians suddenly was directed towards them.

I have to stop you here - I didn't ask why you thought the two were the same though, or why you thought someone else thought they were different. I asked what you would have to see for YOU to think they were different. Surely you can admit that there have been times in your life where you came to a conclusion that later turned out to miss the mark, right? I'm asking you to imagine that happening this time, and what piece of evidence or testimony would have gotten you from now to then.

To reiterate - I am not asking you whether you think someone else is a hypocrite, or blind, or a sheep. I've heard all that from you already, in great detail. I am asking you whether it's possible for YOU to imagine reconsidering YOUR conclusion.

[Shaps]

I have to stop you here - I didn't ask why you thought the two were the same though, or why you thought someone else thought they were different. I asked what you would have to see for YOU to think they were different. Surely you can admit that there have been times in your life where you came to a conclusion that later turned out to miss the mark, right? I'm asking you to imagine that happening this time, and what piece of evidence or testimony would have gotten you from now to then.

To reiterate - I am not asking you whether you think someone else is a hypocrite, or blind, or a sheep. I've heard all that from you already, in great detail. I am asking you whether it's possible for YOU to imagine reconsidering YOUR conclusion.

My position is that violence is not good.

I've maintained that the whole time.

I'm just okay with violence if that is the ruleset people want to live under. Simple terms: If you do violence to me, I will return the violence. That doesn't mean I like it. It doesn't mean I want to. It doesn't mean I'll start it. But it does mean, if those are the rules you wish to engage under, then I will do so as well.

My issue is the feigned outrage over one instance of violence as compared to another. If violence is okay under certain circumstances, then it is under others. If not, then not. I lean towards wanting a world where violence is condemned regardless, but others like to pick and choose. I'm just okay if that's the direction they want to go. Just don't complain when it comes back on you.

And to directly answer your question: I am always open to reconsider my conclusions or thoughts. So long as the rules/laws/auspices under which we are engaging are clear and adhered to.

Edit: For some reason people try to read what I say and think I somehow think what occurred at the Capitol is okay. It's not and I've said as much. I'm just not surprised. I dislike the current outrage, when for months normal citizens have lived under threat of violence and rioting for months - and OUR elected officials downplayed it or made excuses. When normal citizens are subjected to such violence, don't all of a sudden - as an elected official - get all "law and order" or achieve "moral clarity" when it comes to you. They should have been protecting YOU and me, and every normal constituent they govern. Not picking sides on who's allowed to do violence and who's not.

[Keller]

Says the man who openly admitted he stalked PB's underage daughter for years "just to see how she would turn out."

There is a kernal of truth to this that continues to metastasize into libel.

Years ago (circa 2007 or 2008) I told PB he is a negligent parent and his daughters would wind up with daddy issues because of it. He got super triggered and has been obsessed with me since then.

I stopped posting on the PC and forgot PB existed.

I returned the the PC and PB continued to be obsessed with me.

I knew his trigger so decided to see if my prediction was correct. I knew his name (which I've never disclosed to anyone, despite claims that I have "dox'd" him) and easily found his oldest daughter's public facebook profile. She was a college student (not a minor) and appeared to be well adjusted.

Unable to claim I was right, I did the next best thing and congratulated him on having a well-adjusted daughter despite his negligent parenting. He got triggered again and has led this weird crusade to get the gang of miscreants to allege I am at best a stalker and at worst a child molester.

With the wisdom of age, I've decided to just block PB and have one less unredeemable asshole in my life. It's imperfect since reputation comments are not blocked, but it's good enough for now.

[Shaps]

There is a kernal of truth to this that continues to metastasize into libel.

Years ago (circa 2007 or 2008) I told PB he is a negligent parent and his daughters would wind up with daddy issues because of it. He got super triggered and has been obsessed with me since then.

I stopped posting on the PC and forgot PB existed.

I returned the the PC and PB continued to be obsessed with me.

I knew his trigger so decided to see if my prediction was correct. I knew his name (which I've never disclosed to anyone, despite claims that I have "dox'd" him) and easily found his oldest daughter's public facebook profile. She was a college student (not a minor) and appeared to be well adjusted.

Unable to claim I was right, I did the next best thing and congratulated him on having a well-adjusted daughter despite his negligent parenting. He got triggered again and has led this weird crusade to get the gang of miscreants to allege I am at best a stalker and at worst a child molester.

With the wisdom of age, I've decided to just block PB and have one less unredeemable asshole in my life. It's imperfect since reputation comments are not blocked, but it's good enough for now.

I don't know the full details, so won't comment on the specifics - but tracking down anyone from any online forum should not be the status quo in my opinion. Sure we have heated discussions and talk trash to each other on here, but to impose on someone's actual personal life - regardless who does it - should not happen.

Edit: That's my opinion. I'm sure some might view it differently.

[Keller]

I don't know the full details, so won't comment on the specifics - but tracking down anyone from any online forum should not be the status quo in my opinion. Sure we have heated discussions and talk trash to each other on here, but to impose on someone's actual personal life - regardless who does it - should not happen.

I would definitely have just blocked PB back in 2008 if I had been more mature, but I wasn't. I regret that.

I didn't impose on anyone's personal life other than to troll PB.

[Shaps]

I would definitely have just blocked PB back in 2008 if I had been more mature, but I wasn't. I regret that.

I didn't impose on anyone's personal life other than to troll PB.

As said, I don't know the specifics so won't comment either way. That's between you and him. I was making a general statement. We all do things we regret and later atone for hopefully. None of us are above that.

I just hope the talks we have on here, even though they do get contentious - and yes I egg it on quite a bit when I'm in the mood, so I am not above the insanity - are just talks and ideas going back and forth. Discussion and debate online should not carry over to a persons real life - all was trying to say.

[Parkbandit]

There is a kernal of truth to this that continues to metastasize into libel.

Years ago (circa 2007 or 2008) I told PB he is a jerk for not letting me back into a World of Warcraft guild that I left because the grass was greener somewhere else. He told me no one wanted him back, so I swore I would get revenge one day. I obsessively gained as much information about him and stalked him over the Internet. I saw he had an underage daughter on social media and decided to obsess over her.

I stopped posting on the PC because everyone found out what a pathetic piece of shit I really was and was determined to write my new story! People forget and I will patiently wait them out!

I returned the the PC to post, although I was always lurking in the shadows with my zipper down like the pedo I am.

I knew his trigger so decided to post how I had been obsessing over PB and his underage daughter for the past 13 years. I knew his name, address, company name, facebook page, twitter, etc.. (which posted on this forum, but it was deleted because Kranar took it down when PB reported it, ruining my fun.) and used that information to tell the world that yes, I was a pedophile, but I've never been convicted of it.. so I can take the high road!

Unable to admit the truth about my creepy behavior, I did the next best thing and made up some story that I was so mad at PB for making fun of TheE not having a job so THAT is why I stalked him and his underage daughter for over a decade.. but that didn't turn out like I thought it would in my head and people called me out for being a child molester.... so this will be the THIRD time I'm changing the actual story in a pathetic hope that people will forget what a scumbag I am.

Because he is right and I'm just a scumbag, I've decided to just block PB and have one less person in my life for calling me out for my creepy behavior. I might have to leave the PC for a few months for this to all die back down again and hope people forget what a creepy pedophile I am.. but if I play my cards right, I can return without people knowing who I really am. Maybe someone will befriend me who has underage daughters and I can perv on them because PB's daughter is way too old for me now.

FTFY.

Can't help but notice you changed the reason you decided to stalk my underage daughter's social media... did it finally not make any sense to you as well?

Better luck next time, scumbag.

[Parkbandit]

I don't know the full details, so won't comment on the specifics - but tracking down anyone from any online forum should not be the status quo in my opinion. Sure we have heated discussions and talk trash to each other on here, but to impose on someone's actual personal life - regardless who does it - should not happen.

Edit: That's my opinion. I'm sure some might view it differently.

Normal people know this.

Normal people know that it's wrong to dox someone you politically disagree with.

Normal people know that it's wrong to dox someone's underage daughter because you disagree with him.

Normal people know this. But Keller isn't normal. He's a scumbag.

He needs to be on a registry so people with underage children can avoid him.

[time4fun]

There is a kernal of truth to this that continues to metastasize into libel.

Years ago (circa 2007 or 2008) I told PB he is a negligent parent and his daughters would wind up with daddy issues because of it. He got super triggered and has been obsessed with me since then.

I stopped posting on the PC and forgot PB existed.

I returned the the PC and PB continued to be obsessed with me.

I knew his trigger so decided to see if my prediction was correct. I knew his name (which I've never disclosed to anyone, despite claims that I have "dox'd" him) and easily found his oldest daughter's public facebook profile. She was a college student (not a minor) and appeared to be well adjusted.

Unable to claim I was right, I did the next best thing and congratulated him on having a well-adjusted daughter despite his negligent parenting. He got triggered again and has led this weird crusade to get the gang of miscreants to allege I am at best a stalker and at worst a child molester.

With the wisdom of age, I've decided to just block PB and have one less unredeemable asshole in my life. It's imperfect since reputation comments are not blocked, but it's good enough for now.

Yeah they do this a lot. It's the go-to strategy to change the subject from politics when they know they're backed in a corner.