I wonder how long democrats will consider Hispanics from Virginia as white supremacists after getting pwned in that election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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I wonder how long democrats will consider Hispanics from Virginia as white supremacists after getting pwned in that election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Hispanics have always been considered white on the census.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
The census is gay. Not as gay as democrats, but still pretty gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://i.imgur.com/JeabHfB.png
To me it depends on their ancestry. IF they have more Spanish they are white, if they have more NAtive American they are Native American, etc, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
What if they have more Native American ancestry, but they voted for a republican?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://i.imgur.com/jgeppoZ.gif
Then they are a smart Native American.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Racists such as Seran and time4fun: My party is the party POC choose! POC such as Hispanics, blacks, and Asians! Therefore we can't be racist!!!
Also racists such as Seran and time4fun after a majority of Hispanics vote Republican: Hispanics are all just a bunch of white supremacists anyways!!!
I hope some day a majority of Asians vote for the Republican candidate so racist Democrats will also call Asians white supremacists.
According to racist Democrats white supremacy is more diverse than almost any other institution.
Inflation is 6.2% higher now than it was a year ago.
To put that into perspective, if someone is earning 2400 dollars a month that income is effectively only worth 2250 dollars today than it was compared to a year ago. Basically Joe Biden is costing this person 150 dollars a year. Not through tax increases (although that's coming too), but no, just the simple fact that he's such a shit president that your money is now worth much less today than it was a year ago.
150 bucks a month is 1800 dollars a year. Middle income and low income people can do a lot with 1800 dollars. But hey, as long as he's not Orange man right?
Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention that this is the highest increase to inflation since 1981. Yes even during the economic boom of Bush W's last years in office when gas prices were increasing because of the booming global economy the inflation still never even came close to what Biden managed to fuck up in under a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
So, Seran and everyone else who fucked up by voting for this ghoul, when are you going to make this right and start giving people money that you literally robbed them of because of your vote? I'm sure that's right after you make things right with the hundreds of Afghans that Biden got murdered and injured and the dozens of US military members that he got killed and injured.
Sounds like people just need to get a 2nd job to support our President.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Oh right, who could forget Alfster's suggestion to people complaining about higher prices under Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
https://media2.giphy.com/media/SUheU...BnLizG/200.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
https://www.yahoo.com/news/riot-decl...125938952.html
"Riot declared in Portland as protesters and police clash after Kyle Rittenhouse's acquittal"
"Chris Liedle with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office told KOIN TV that "hostile" protesters threw "urine, alcoholic beverages, water bottles, and batteries" at police."
Election season coming up! Have to get those riots going again.
"PEACEFUL PROTESTS!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
https://www.yahoo.com/news/massachus...025431231.html
"Massachusetts university hosts segregated 'processing' spaces for responding to Rittenhouse verdict"
"The four "processing" spaces include a "Students of Color Processing Space," "White Student Ally Processing Space," "Faculty and Staff of Color Processing Space," and a "White Faculty and Staff Ally Processing Space"
Racism - alive and well apparently.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/remote-le...143532040.html
"Remote schooling led to catastrophic learning loss, new study finds"
I mean.. who could have predicted this?? Am I right?
Amazing how stupid the general populous is becoming with partisan media hacks filling their heads with nonsense 24/7. We've lost all sense (isn't common no more).
I blame Seran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Good job Seran.
“So it's easy to criticize [me], but they're really criticizing science because I represent science,” Fauci said.
The Democrat party is such a mess. First they defended the murderer governor of NY because they hated Trump so much and they defend Fauci so much that he gets a lot of air time to inflate his already huge ego to the point where he says he is science. Maybe in a year or two Democrats will finally fully pull their heads out of their asses and Fauci will be facing prison time too like he deserves.
Context matters. Here's what he said before that quote:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
He's saying that they want to criticize science but can't, so they target him instead. This isn't some Star-Wars-ian I AM THE SENATE moment, and if you'd posted the full context that would be VERY evident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deddy Fauci
Also, what crimes do you think they'll be jailing Fauci for?
Okay, Macguyver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
Thanks for the "context" of Fauci's ego being so fucking huge that he actually unironically refers to himself in the third person.
I feel like anyone with children already should have known this. We took our kid out of remote and went homeschool last year because a 1st grader cannot stay engaged to what was essentially a telecon. What our school considered "remote learning" was a half hour check in every day with occasional story time and no formal teaching. All "lessons" were just youtube videos of how to do math or how to read but very little to no formal instruction from the teachers themselves. There work sheets were all adobe PDF or similar type documents and despite the technology shift most 1st graders are not versed in using a laptop and programs within it. I don't fault the teachers since it was thrust upon them but our school had no capacity to handle this transition and it did not seem like they wanted to attempt to solve the problem. I would imagine most schools were the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Sounds like a huge clusterfuck. I have a feeling a lot of parents who never would have considered home schooling are now going to home school their children.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orthin
Yeah we are homeschooling again this year and then going back to school brick and mortar style next year because of how clusterfuckerly? it was last year. This year was in flux with what was going to happen and homeschool went fine last year. But we live in a rural area and socialization is minimal so we want them back in school (though this year there are actually like art classes, gym classes and activities that didn't exist last year making socialization better).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
The virtual learning was fucking stupid. I watched the kindergarten zoom stuff and it was really just an hour of the teacher saying hi and then reading a book for 10 minutes and then saying bye. Regular school reopened for the next year, so yeah, I put them right the fuck back in there. My wife and I don't have time to homeschool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orthin
Democrat politicians:Quote:
Originally Posted by Orthin
https://c.tenor.com/_g1W6jVhbPsAAAAM...ng-talking.gif
When the fuck did you have kids?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Reported.
JUST BECAUSE I'D DON'T POST OBNOXIOUS KID PICS ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA DOESN'T MEAN THEY AREN'T THEREQuote:
Originally Posted by Methais
THANK YOU FOR NOT POSTING OBNOXIOUS KID PICS ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA LIKE SOME FAT CHICK WHO'S ON THE HOA BOARD IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATEDQuote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
One of my best data visualization analysts spawned his second child back in September. I gave him paid time off... 12 weeks for paternity leave (which is such a complete fucking joke his wife was back at work after 6 weeks). That aside, he's good people, but young. First 3 meetings I have with him coming back, literally grind to a halt in all three.
Why you ask? Because he two dreamkillers, Mika and Samson, his 3 month old and 2 year old, are going apeshit in the background. I had to have a meeting with him on the fourth day, and be like "bro I get it, you are 27 and have two new "bundles of joy". I don't GAF about that though, so can you come to meetings prepared, without children, so we can all work together for what I'm paying you 120k to do? If I hear a baby screaming in my sprint review, I'm going to loose my shit. I just expect him to be able to work during his scheduled work hours.
I'm a monster, I know. I also told the dude who's father just died that it'd been two weeks, corp policy is 5 days bereavement. I gave him two weeks. And he missed his first day back without any communication, other than at 3AM the day after that baby had a bad day. I told him fine, here's the deal - I'm a major advocate for work life balance... but for that to work, you have to communicate to me the days you need off and I will unequivocally give them to you. But you have to plan.
So sick of the feels. Father is dead in the ground two weeks, you can come back to work and not need your ass wiped every 3 minutes. Real life interferes, your fucking amazing boss said just let me know in advance and I'll clear the runway for you. But if you don't, you are fucking everyone in the equation.
Lots of employers, including my own make you sign a contract for teleworking that you'll have a work environment free of distraction. I think you're perfect reasonable for calling him to task.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
An actual headline from Associated Press:
Biden's new German shepherd draws attention from pup-arazzi
But remember the media is being more harsh on Biden than they were on Trump and this has to change!
If Trump had a German shepherd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
"THE ONLY REASON TRUMP HAS A GERMAN SHEPHERD IS BECAUSE GERMAN = NAZI = TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!"
Lol at conservatives who seem to believe they're always the victims. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
lol at alt-leftists who bend over backwards to defend the absolute nonsensical bullshit the media pumps out on a minutely basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
The deep, rich irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
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Originally Posted by Alfster
It's just an extension of this factor. They're the best at everything, except when they lose and then it's the evil leftists/democrat's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Umby
Can't what you quoted be applied to both parties? I always find it sad and amusing that people think getting the larger number of idiots to agree with them somehow actually means they were right in some fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
^ Imagine lacking self awareness this hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flap
Life is only about likes and retweets, didn't you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeril
I'LL RETWEET YOUR FACE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-calif...082937489.html
"Here’s Why California Is Losing Population for the First Time"
A look into the future of the United States if people keep acting like dumbasses... California - the practical example of insanity and decline of such policies.
Stop moving to Red States and voting the way you did in the liberal hell holes... you'll just make more of them.
This is just fucking disgusting...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/californi...004345264.html
"Bonta said that under his legal interpretation of California's murder statute, a pregnant woman cannot be prosecuted for the murder of an unborn fetus based on the outcome of her pregnancy. He said lesser included charges such as manslaughter also do not apply in such cases."
Do meth, kill your unborn baby, no charges...
I guess anyone that kills a woman now, and her unborn baby, can only be charged with the mother's then? Or is it only a mother that can kill their own baby without recourse...
These people are fucking sick. Our country should be ashamed.
That's how it is in NY now. A man can literally beat a pregnant woman's stomach with a baseball bat and kill her unborn child and the only crime he will be charged with is assaulting the woman. Because you know, NY cares about women having a choice in whether or not they want to give birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
There has already been at least one case like I described above in NY since Democrats in the state changed the law in regards to killing unborn children.
Please God, please run Hillary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
From my understanding, US Today posted an opinion piece that had a supportive opinion on pedophiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
https://c.tenor.com/vrWvO_GbsM8AAAAM/do-it-come-on.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Leftists love pedos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Hillary Clinton is the only person that existed that could have lost to Donald Trump. I hope she runs again, then whatever rando Republican will win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The way things are going, doesn't matter who is running. The Republicans going to win.
Got to get the country back on track somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
President Biden can't do it.
Republicans are top tier at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Their ability to fuck up a wet dream is nothing to underestimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
If Dems are smart, they'll ask him to not run for reelection and do primaries again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Of course, Bernie Sanders will probably turn back into a Democrat again for them.
Who's going to be a halfway decent candidate though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Not Clinton
Not Harris
Not Buttigieg
Not Sparticus
Not Bloomberg
Not O'Rourke
Not Swalwell
Not Sanders
Not De Blasio
Not Yang
Maybe Gabbard... she would be the only one with the support of normal people with a brain.
Which is why she has no chance and she knows it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
My bet is they will try Hillary again or something. That is IF we aren't in a war with China or worse.
I doubt Hillary will run again. She wants it and her ego is so bruised from 2008 and 2016.. but even she has more self awareness than to try a 3rd time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~
The only people who like her are people like time4fun..
There are always unknowns that pop out. See Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Obama wasn't really an unknown. He was expected to run in 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Beating the Clinton Machine wasn't expected though.
I don't know anyone outside of people in Illinois who had ever heard of Obama prior to his run. There are a ton of articles that speak to the fact that he as unknown by almost everyone prior to his run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
You did call it in 2004 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
But if you go through that thread, a lot of people were saying they don't know shit about him.
He was the keynote speaker at the 2004 Democrat Convention. He wasn't an unknown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Just because some people here are ignorant doesn't mean we all are.Quote:
You did call it in 2004 though.
But if you go through that thread, a lot of people were saying they don't know shit about him.
Does "relatively unknown" sound better to you? Most of America didn't have a damn clue who he was until he began campaigning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Also, that thread is kinda funny reading over it well after the fact. They all thought McCain would absolutely destroy Obama because he was.. Well, unknown and unexperienced.
McCain had a big problem because Conservatives didn't like him... then he selected Palin who had her own baggage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Obama, after he shut his wife up, ran on "hope and change" with no specifics and just a positive message.
Nothing made me facepalm more than when Palin started talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Yeah, both parties have fallen victim to "lets add a woman to the ticket because woke" and gotten a turd VP candidate and turd VP out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
I mean, top two positions in the nation have been filled by shitbags for 20 years. This is the best we have in America?
Politicians, by nature, are shitbags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I didn't realize you were a politician, I had heard you were a tub repairman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
"NOU!" -Bhaalizmo since 2010Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
"I fear change and hate what I don't understand" PB since birthQuote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
"I hate what I don't understand.. and that's pretty much everything" - Bhaalizmo aka the failed abortionQuote:
Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Biden hosts Manchin and Sinema at White House to push for voting rights reform
https://www.axios.com/biden-manchin-...4189f93e5.html
I wonder how that meeting was set up. "Hey, can you racist segregationist please come down and not be a racist segregationist and vote on my bill?"
I'm betting there was a sweet lunch service involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Let me guess...their idea of voting rights is to let literally everyone vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
He literally called them (and anyone against his voting reform bill) racists when he went to Atlanta and raged. He's a moron to ask them to the whitehouse a day later to try and strongarm them after he literally called them racists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Republican governor's are basically trying to give our country it's very own Apartheid by adding restrictions to voting. Voter identification, in-person voting requirements where voting centers are hours long drives away, absentee voting restrictions. People of color are much more likely to have suspended licenses due to fines or criminal penalties, preventing renewal of a valid ID for voting. Same goes with forcing inner city precincts to be far away from population centers and understaffed to prevent votes from being cast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
That isn't racist at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Because there is no such thing as non-license ID's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Also, let those racist Democrat roots shine.
I'll forgive your ignorance on the subject, but most states won't allow a driver's license OR identification card if you have court ordered suspension or owe past due child support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Which is why removing a remuneration component from driving privilege is such a big push by some groups. Here's the facts, in case you'd actually like to the see numbers behind your sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
https://www.acslaw.org/issue_brief/b...nsion-schemes/
Bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Here's a fun fact, drivers licenses aren't the only form of ID.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://www.ncsl.org/research/human-...d-support.aspxQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
No, don't see any blocked state issued ID cards on this list for child support. the entire purpose of the ID card is for when you can't have a license. Don't be dense.
Basically, the Democrats have fucked up so badly, all they have left is lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
You should just respond to everything with "But racism!" and save time typing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Give me two examples of voting centers being hours long drives away.
Sounds rural. Who lives in these rural Republican states? Remind me what color they predominately are?
Are you not for vaccine mandates? I mean, if you can bring your vaccine card with you, seems like voter ID is FAR fucking simpler.
And inner city precincts, by definition are population centers... they aren't far away from shit.
Short of rush hour traffic, there is nowhere in the continental United States that you can't reach the county seat, which must be a voting center, in under 2 hours. The only place that I know it might be possible to not reach a county seat in under 2 hours MIGHT be Alaska. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
The rest of Seran's asinine assertion is equally wrong. Too bad he is simply to far indoctrinated in this farce to back out now.
Someone has no idea what he is talking about again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'm shocked.
Stop being the most useful idiot in any thread.
I'm not even sure Backlash was this fucking ignorant.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-voting-rightsQuote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Right at the top: This article is more than 6 years oldQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I understand you believe that the "10,000 people" this effected 6 years ago might be a huge problem for you to base your entire point upon.. but given that this country has 330 million people... it's an extremely tiny percentage of the population.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I hear those inner cities of Alaska are rough.Quote:
The only place that I know it might be possible to not reach a county seat in under 2 hours MIGHT be Alaska.
Nnngh, your link fails to meet my standards of qualification because it's right.
Your link failed because you linked a failed link you fucking failed human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Cool opinion piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Remember when Androidpk started posting opinion pieces as fact during his final meltdown?
It's also funny because in that 6 year old opinion piece, he makes the argument not to trust mail in voting. Almost like someone didn't read it after being called out for a BS argument. Oh yeah, it also talks about how the US Govt mail service is terrible and these people are (English) illiterate.
But, racism. Just stick to that homey.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-pri...ns-11642507485
Haven't seen oil prices this high since Joe Biden was the VP....
Seems like just yesterday Seran was telling all of us we had to personally thank Biden because oil prices dropped a whole 1%. I wonder if he'll come along now and tell us we need to personally thank Biden for increasing gas prices to levels not seen since 2014. Of course not. He'll find a way to blame this on Trump or Republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
It's amazing really how Democrats can actually look at their life and finances and realize they are way worse off now than they were 2 years ago under Trump but they'll still insist Biden is the best president ever.
7% inflation in one year? Poor people earning 30k a year effectively lost 2100 dollars since Biden has been president and will continue to lose that 2100 dollars a year for the rest of their lives. But hey, Biden and the Democrats gave us all a one time only 1200 dollar stimulus check so it all evens out! Then there is the matter of Biden killing 3 times as many people as Trump did with his failure of handling the China virus.
Don't think I've seen many Democrats praising him, in polls or online forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
But you. You must see it everywhere. Lol
Dude, you haven't even said a single bad thing about Biden. Whenever something is posted about what a failure Biden is your response is always "LOL BUT TRUMP!" or "LOL BUT REPUBLICANS!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
The Oil Industry loves it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
So in your mind, if I'm not pissing and moaning about someone it means I support them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
You live in a strange bubble of your own insecurities.
They've been backing moronic POTUSes since the days of Bush Jr. They have to pretend that their leaders are competent, ethical people so it surprises them when we don't pretend that about people we grudgingly voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
https://miamistandard.news/2022/01/1...ks-away-video/Quote:
Pelosi’s Top Pick For Chairwoman of the Transportation Committee Repeatedly Crashes Her Car Into Parked Vehicle, Walks Away
"Transportation Committee"
https://media1.giphy.com/media/y7LLt6Cmv62Lm/200.gif
Is she the woman from fried green tomatoes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Where precisely are you getting your numbers from? Core inflation at the end is of the year 2021 sat at 5.5% year over year, high and nearly triple what the Fed see's as healthy long term inflation. Yet this isn't a record, not since the double digit inflation seen in 1979 and 1980.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Real wages for the most of working America is up, up a staggering amount and its outpacing inflation.
Retail: 8.4%
Food service, administration: 18.4%
So while your Republican spin doctors might be screaming doom and gloom, the average worker is making more than they were before with inflation indexed. With unemployment sitting under 4%, an American seeking a job can find one as job openings far exceed available workers.
Workers who cannot work, or choose not to work are suffering that is true. Inflation against a fixed income or welfare only benefits hurts, but since when have Republicans cared about that? Build Back Better was set to rollout new safety net programs, which have been derailed by two democrats and all of senate Republicans. So while you may want to land the poor suffering on Biden, it's in fact Republicans which are preventing their relief.
Afster, have you met Seran yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Republicans are digging holes in the road to a more equitable recovery, then telling everyone it's the Democrats fault for being powerless to stop them from doing it.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
^ lol SeranQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
^ lol Seran againQuote:
Originally Posted by Seran
https://bizmktg.com//wp-content/uplo...04/dd5uns1.jpg
Remind me who has the majority in the house and senate? Who's in the Whitehouse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
And if you reread my post you'll see exactly where the problem is 50 Republicans and 2 Democrats stalling any progress whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Democracy in action.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You pissed and moaned 24/7 about Trump when he was president, but now all you can do is deflect and defend Biden, so yeah, it sure seems like you support him. Again you aren’t that deep, you aren’t difficult to figure out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfster
Seran: zomg! We need to save our democracy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
Also Seran: zomg! Democracy is the worst when it doesn’t work my way!
You should take a Civics for Dummies class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The Senate is working as intended.
And because of that, now the Democrats want to change it.
Suck it up, buttercup. You're going to be ok without the government spending another 4 trillion dollars it doesn't have.
So, the filibuster was originally used prior to the Civil War to allow the minority party to voice their grievances in the Senate. That is fair and I think thoughtful debate /is/ a lost art and in the halls of power in our country. But even then it was universally understood that only an active speaker or speakers, so long as they held the floor could keep the filibuster alive. The talking filibuster was the greatest expression of minority appeal, putting objectors on the spot to air their grievances with legislation. Yet that was done away with, stupidly enough by a Democrat, in a brain dead attempt to prevent minority from stalling the Senate entirely. Now a senator need only give notice they intend to object, adding an unconstitutional threshold to overcome a simple piece of paper and superimposing a 3/5ths rule to invoke cloture. Nowhere in our constitution exists a requirement for supermajority to pass legislation. And yet here we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
52 vs 48 doesn't need a filibuster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
You keep using the word "unconstitutional" when you clearly have no idea what the word means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
A) Only a simple majority is required to pass legislation in the Senate, 60 votes is required for ending debate.
B) Just because filibuster and cloture isn't discussed in the constitution doesn't mean the Senate rules are unconstitutional.
C) What IS in the constitution is that both the House and the Senate can make their own rules of how they conduct business.
D) At one point a filibuster in the Senate could theoretically last forever, then this rule was changed to require 66 votes to end debate, then the rule was changed again to only require 60 votes to end debate.
Does this mean the Senate could just as easily change their own rules to do away with filibusters altogether and rely on a simple majority for all legislation? Absolutely. Is it "unconstitutional" if they decide to leave things the way they are? Absolutely not. Stop being a dumbass and stop spreading constitutional misinformation, you are literally murdering people with your words.
Sounds like the Democrats are divided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
June 10, 1964Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
At 9:51 on the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert C. Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier. The subject was the pending Civil Rights Act of 1964, a measure that occupied the Senate for 60 working days, including seven Saturdays. A day earlier, Senate whips Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) and Thomas Kuchel (R-CA), the bill's floor managers, concluded they had the 67 votes required at that time to end the debate.
The Civil Rights Act provided protection of voting rights; banned discrimination in public facilities—including private businesses offering public services—such as lunch counters, hotels, and theaters; and established equal employment opportunity as the law of the land.
As Senator Byrd took his seat, House members, former senators, and others—150 of them—vied for limited standing space at the back of the chamber. With all gallery seats taken, hundreds waited outside in hopelessly extended lines.
Georgia Democrat Richard Russell offered the final arguments in opposition. Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, who had enlisted the Republican votes that made cloture a realistic option, spoke for the proponents with his customary eloquence. Noting that the day marked the 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln's nomination to a second term, the Illinois Republican proclaimed, in the words of Victor Hugo, "Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come." He continued, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!"
Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only five times in the 47 years since the cloture rule was established had the Senate agreed to cloture for any measure.
The clerk proceeded to call the roll. When he reached "Mr. Engle," there was no response. A brain tumor had robbed California's mortally ill Clair Engle of his ability to speak. Slowly lifting a crippled arm, he pointed to his eye, thereby signaling his affirmative vote. Few of those who witnessed this heroic gesture ever forgot it. When Delaware's John Williams provided the decisive 67th vote, Majority Leader Mike Mansfield exclaimed, "That's it!"; Richard Russell slumped; and Hubert Humphrey beamed. With six wavering senators providing a four-vote victory margin, the final tally stood at 71 to 29. Nine days later the Senate approved the act itself—producing one of the 20th century's towering legislative achievements.
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-...ster-ended.htm
So 52% of the peoples representatives are against the bill. Sounds like it's working exactly as intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
There is bipartisan rejection of this legislation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I really dislike how Schumer keeps saying "2 people" are stopping the legislations. It's 52 people (52%), you fucking partisan douche.
I really don't understand why Manchin doesn't just ditch the Democrat party. He doesn't even have to become a Republican, he could just become an independent and not caucus with either party. Like why subject yourself to this sort of hateful rhetoric from your own party?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
It doesn't make as much sense for Sinema to leave the Democrat party because so many far left Democrats from California have flooded into Arizona lately that they have turned the state purple, but West Virginia is solidly red so he might even do himself a favor politically by leaving the Democrat party. What is even in it for Manchin anymore to remain a Democrat?
I bet McConnell would bend over backwards to appease Manchin if he left the party.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-rep...011959466.html
"Texas Rep Cuellar vows cooperation with FBI investigation as agents descend on Laredo neighborhood"
Wow... He (a Democrat) speaks out against the President's handling of the border crisis... and suddenly the FBI shows up... hmmmmm...
I'm sure nothing fishy going on there.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/californi...050023607.html
"California kids 12 and older could receive COVID-19 vaccine without parent's OK"
The State is now the Parent (at least trying to be)... and they no longer care about being blatant about it. Medical procedures on minors, without parental consent... Go big Government.
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Originally Posted by Seran
https://www.wbay.com/2022/01/20/thed...orker-dispute/
“Cease the hiring of the individuals referenced until ThedaCare has hired adequate staff to replace the departing IRC team members.”
So if they don't come to an agreement, the people will literally not be allowed to start their new job and either be forced to work for their former employer or be unemployed.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1484934474190053376
When I first saw this ad, I thought it was an anti-Biden ad.
But it's not. It's literally a pro-Biden ad.
Like what?
I actually like it... smart way to approach the whole "Let's Go Brandon" thing... instead of acting like word nazi's, whining, and censoring people for saying it... have fun with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Wish stuff like this was the standard response, not the censorship that is occurring today.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/truckers-...093000457.html
"Business Insider - Truckers say an electronic device that measures the hours they drive each day sometimes leaves them stranded just 30 minutes from home"
Remember those articles I posted awhile back about that bullshit electronic "drunk driving" monitoring chip - and they snuck into the last "infrastructure bill" requiring all cars to have it installed by 2027?
This is what they're leading everyone towards... full tracking/control/fines of movement by citizens.
Are you trying to defend their right to break the law and that they have this system in place because the old paper logs were wildly abused?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
You really can't think long term can you...Quote:
Originally Posted by drauz
Maybe you'll figure it out when the Government decides you can only drive 200 miles a day (or whatever arbitrary number they come up with)... and fines you if you go over.
Sounds like the time tracker is doing exactly what it is supposed to do, stop truckers from breaking the law and driving when they aren't legally allowed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
If they are stranded 30 minutes from home they have shit poor planning. Also, you're allowed to turn it off for home conveyance, so long as you aren't performing in a commercial capacity.
Again.. missing the point. I'm talking about what's coming with every person having their vehicle tracked by the upcoming device/software in a few years.
You realize Hours of Service has been around for decades right? It only concerns commercial driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Started in the 1920s or 30s if I remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
You realize they just snuck into the "infrastructure bill" that all cars manufactured after 2026 must have a chip that monitors your driving installed right? They just sold it under the auspice of "drunk driving".Quote:
Originally Posted by Gelston
If you think that won't lead to what these truckers are experiencing, or worse on individual freedom of movement... not sure what to tell you.
Nope, I think you're overreacting. Also, just have it removed if you're so worried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Yeah it will suck having to follow the law while driving, no more speeding =(.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
LMAO. Sorry for the late reply, but I happened to see this scintillating gem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
You do realize it doesn't hurt anyone's feeling when you say this, or when you say "Fuck Joe Biden", right? People who aren't a member of your moron club just think you're stupid.
You can say "Fuck Joe Biden" all day long in most places and most people won't care. The only people that think Let's Go Brandon is in any way funny or clever people with voids inside their skull like you.
Also, FUCK JOE BIDEN :)
"I'm Joe Brandon and I approve this message."Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
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Originally Posted by drauz
Sometimes speeding is necessary...
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Since the regular facepalm thread never gets used anymore I'm putting this here.
Brawl breaks out at Golden Corral over alleged steak shortage (Video)
Democrats: Businesses can do whatever they want!! Free speech just means the government can't shut down your right to free speech!!1!!!1!
Also Democrats: White House urges Spotify to take further action on Joe Rogan: ‘More can be done’
Democrats such as Seran: I wonder how much farther I can shove my head down this hole?
It’s been a long time since I’ve been to one, but if you are ever feeling really down in life just visit a Golden Corral & people watch.
What a clusterfuck of stupidity. First off, the D's are mocking you for your gay wedding cake tantrums. Deal with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Secondly, there's a PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE between Biden's crusty old centrist demented ass "urging" something, and making laws about it. The bully pulpit is a tool that gets used by both sides, so go moisten your klan hood with tears like your crybaby lame duck ex-Prez.
I've gotta imagine it's lookin real red, real big, and real sad in there these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Is there something political about all you can eat buffets?
They hate the Chinese???? Those bastards!Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
I mean... if you made a list of a bunch of American stereotypes, and sorted em all on a list of political leaning left / right, I betcha burritos the list on the right goes to more buffets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
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Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo
Looks pretty blue to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8sn4t_Dook
Wow... just wow...
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Originally Posted by Shaps
What a fucking idiot.
100% chance that Seran watched that video and was like...
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She's melting...
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Why does the ATF sound pathetic and weak when liberals are in the White House?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6XMj1oq8c
Lefty logic in a nutshell.
Too much hypocrisy, stop being so clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9puyMm6NPg
Remember - never forget - people that have been saying this shit for 2+ years were demonized and ostracized by the fucking loony tunes leftists... fuck them now coming around.
Literally when Trump was saying this shit about keeping the country open - the left ridiculed him and derided him... seems another thing he was right about... that of course the jackasses on here and around the world will still "Orange man bad" him...
2 things of note: John Hopkins comprehensive study where they concluded isolating, masks, and shutdowns had no impact on the spread or effects... and 2... Bill Gates saying just the other week at a forum - actually admitting what sane people already knew - that the virus acted as a vaccine through natural immunity and had a larger effect on lower cases than actual vaccines... that piece of shit stating the obvious that people were blacklisted for saying for the past 2 years.
Fucking sad how people are sheep.
https://i.imgur.com/oPoWCiZ.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Shaps
Seems as if another Trump darling is stepping to the plate in taking Russia's side. Apparently Zelensky is a thug for not immediately surrendering to Russia when it began its invasion.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/polit...nts/index.htmlQuote:
North Carolina Republican Rep. Madison Cawthorn recently called Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky a "thug" and the Ukrainian government "incredibly evil," criticizing the country and its leader as Russia invades it.
Zelensky is a criminal just like every other politician in that region of the world, the Pandora papers have proven as such. Picking a side in the Ukraine is like deciding between the Corleone's or the Barzini's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
I'd take Zelensky over Putin any day, given a choice between the two. You can say what you will about the corruption of the region, but if we've only got enough oxygen to save one of em, I'm picking Zelensky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Seran thinks someone calling Putin's actions "disgusting" is "taking Putin's side."
Newsflash, asshole! You can think both Putin AND Zelenskyy are thugs. But you fascist alt-leftists are treating this the exact same way you treated the China virus: "You either accept everything we shove down your throat or you're a Nazi who wants people to die!!!"
Notice the Republican Madison Cuckthorn didn't call Putin a thug or call Russia's government corrupt, he specifically focused on Zelensky calling him a thug in charge of a corrupt and evil government pushing woke ideologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Where is /your/ outrage that this uninformed twat is attacking the leader of a country whose being violently assaulted by an unprovoked aggressor. Where is your support for the hundreds or thousands of innocents being murdered?
Well you ARE kinda reinforcing his statement of you being a radical antifa zealous idiot with your whole absurd “silence is violence” response…Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
So if we all don’t assemble and shout loud profanities at Putin at the same time every day, will you be reporting that crime to the MSNBC thought police?
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I’m sure you have facts, evidence and data to support your claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Zelenskyy actually gives a shit about Ukraine, it’s people, and his country’s future, how many politicians can you actually say that about? if he was in fact corrupt as all other politicians, he would have accepted Trump’s offer.
He’s still in Kyiv, rallying his people and giving them hope, he’s survived multiple assassination attempts, rejected America’s offer to get the fuck out of there, while every other politician would run in his situation. He’s shown time and time again, he’s not like other corrupt politicians.
He’s loved by pretty much all Ukrainian citizens, his intentions are and were never about personal wealth, enriching his friends, or doing anything that would harm his country.
Nice deflection. Another Putin sympathizer I imagine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
So it's true that Zelensky is named in the Pandora papers but what comrade is forgetting to mention is his offshore Investments predated any connection with politics. Zelensky was a comedian and actor prior to running for president and assuming office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
There’s nothing wrong with having money in off shore accounts/investments, I mean I even have some, and I’m sure quite a few other people on these forums have offshore accounts and investments. But like you said it was well before he became a politician or even got involved in politics. He was a successful actor and comedian. With all the corruption that was happening in Ukraine, it’s no wonder why he moved his money out of Ukraine and into offshore accounts/investments, to protect his own money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
Way to prove him right without a shred of self awareness, dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
The Ukraine has been ran by mafia style organizations since the fall of the USSR. You don't reach presidential status in a country like the Ukraine (or any other country) without being corrupt to the core. Pretending otherwise is just ignoring how the world works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
There is no good side in the war in Ukraine. The only good side are the people being forced to stay there until their eventual slaughter.
1984 has never been more relevant.
I doubt that statement to be factual…Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
While I agree that there is nothing inherently wrong with having offshore accounts and investments, as a politician at that level I can see how it may bring into public questions of conflicting interests. Many countries have it built into their laws / constitution that elected officials cannot own foreign assets. I’m no expert but pretty sure I heard Russia is one of those countries just as the first wave of sanctions were happening. No idea on Ukraine.
Side note…how the heck do you have those and work for HSBC (assuming you are a US employee)? Regulation requires me to disclose any and all investments with my employer, I have to receive pre-clearance to make any trades, have to hold onto any shares I buy for a minimum of 30 days, etc. Outside of retirement accounts I invest in real estate partially to avoid all of that regulatory headache as they don’t track or seem to care about that.
It’s all through my wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
At my place they track all of her stuff too. When I first had to start annual personal investment disclosures we forgot about some small measly 401k she had from a place she worked at in her early 20s and never rolled over. They found it for us and asked about it…Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
My wife isn’t a U.S. citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Senate just passed another 1.5T spending bill during the highest inflation in 40 years.
Ahh. That makes sense now. Cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
Umm, our country has to have a budget and the funds have to be allocated by congress to spending programs? This isn't a stimulus program, this is an everyday appropriations bill. Unless you're bothered they didn't cut federal spending?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Seran if the exact same bill was passed under Trump: OMG TRUMP IS GOING TO BANKRUPT US WITH ALL THIS RECKLESS SPENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seran
In 1982 inflation was at 5% so the Federal reserve lowered the interest rate down to 9%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
We are currently at a .25% interest rate with 7.9% inflation. Investors are predicting 6 quarter point increases this year which would place interest rates at 1.75%.
In reality it's not just going to be 1.5 trillion but rather 3 trillion dollars by the end of the year. This will more likely be higher considering the likelihood of the US getting sucked into this war with the push for a no-fly zone.Quote:
The vote both avoids the prospect of government shutdowns through the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30
This going to be a disaster.
My humble amateur assessment for the causes of our current inflation problem are three folded: (edit to add I’m in no way claiming I solely came to this conclusion on my own, but this is the assessment of the causes for rapid significant increases to our inflation rate by several respected economists who have formed a general consensus.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
1) supply chain issues that began with the epidemic
2) fiscal policy with the Federal Reserve (interest rates are way too low and increasing them is absolutely beyond necessary at this point)
3) government overspending
#1 will get better over time and the whole world is facing that right now. #2 the Feds are starting to finally do something about and we will see frequent rate hikes this year. #3 is the most painful and the one that’s going to continue to get us in trouble. The Biden administration seems to lack the most basic understanding of economics, and went so far as to publicly say the solution to this inflation issue is MORE government spending.
And more bad news, the logical next thing to result from this inflation and failed efforts to get this under control is going to be economic stagnation. I think we will see years of limited GDP growth 1-3% as a natural consequence. That’s exactly how it went down for Japan in the “lost decade”.
MORE government spending, for companies to not raise their prices, that some inflation is actually great for the economy and it's Russia's fault has been the cornerstone of this Administrations inflation solutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
Also notice how the media and Dems keep calling the gas pump increase the “Putin hike”. Sorry folks…nothing we can do about it. It’s all Putin’s fault. And while yes Putin absolutely does have a lot to do with the most recent increase in price of crude oil, he completely ignores the fact that they were already high BEFORE the invasion. Biden’s domestic energy policies by executive order when he first took office have absolutely contributed to the steady increase in our fuel costs. But of course instead of taking accountability or considering easing up on the energy industry regulations, let’s just blame it all on Putin and make a half hearted attempt to get more oil from friendly nations like Venezuela, Iran, and Saudi Arabia. When they tell us to go eff ourselves, Biden can say he tried but this is all Putin’s fault…
There's going to be heavy resistance to increasing interest rates. Your investment class is going to be against it because they know if things go to shit they will just receive a bailout. Government will be against it because it will cost more to spend. Consumers will be against it because everyone is living off barrowed money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
People will shit themselves if buying a home costs 500k and comes with a 16% interest rate.
I agree. Higher interest rates have very negative consequences to economic growth, but I think the Fed finally realizes the dire nature of the situation and risk of hyperinflation if they don’t. They have made it clear there will be several increases of 25bps (maybe even 50bps at certain intervals) this year. To not do so would be fiscally irresponsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Biden should consider himself lucky that people who are as stupid as Seran exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
He never would have been elected if not for that huge liberal voting block.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
He was only elected because people hated Trump. He didn't even gain the majority of Republican votes in some areas.
It was that way in Wisconsin for sure.
it's a global increase in gas prices. Yes there are some things we can do. And we're doing them, but they don't happen overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet
This is a really silly point to be making right now.
No we're not. Remove these dumb drilling bans in areas where we know there is a shitton of oil. Open up more areas for drilling. Give out more explorations leases. Approve more drilling permits and faster. Give tax breaks to energy companies if they increase their production by a certain amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
You can argue you care about the local wildlife more than you care about Americans suffering, or that you don't think energy companies should be given tax breaks, but don't straight up lie and claim we're doing everything we can to lower the price of gas.
I’m sure you have facts, evidence and data to support your claim that zelenskyy is corrupt? You specifically said he is a corrupt politician, can you prove it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
Yeah, Ukraine was corrupt and probably still is, that doesn’t mean zelenskyy is. Have you ever thought that maybe the people want a change? Maybe he wants to actually do things for the betterment of his country, his people and their future?
Bringing up that Ukraine was already corrupt, and you think will always be corrupt isn’t evidence, data or facts that zelenskyy is also corrupt.
You know his entry into the race was crowd funded by the public that was completely transparent? Part of how Ukraine maintained corruption was by making a presidential entry expensive as fuck.
The Pandora papers and the criminal state of the Ukraine is plenty of evidence for me. You're free to believe in Captain Ukraine, just don't call for American blood to be spilled over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
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Originally Posted by time4fun
I can think of 640 million acres of things we can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
That was all well before he became president or even got into politics, it was his own wealth from being an actor and comedian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
So how does him having offshore count and business dealings before he even became a president or getting into politics make him a corrupt politician?
It’s common practice for people of Eastern European countries that have any sort of money to move their money out of the country because of the corruption. You are aware of this right?
You said he’s a corrupt politician, so can you show me evidence, data or facts that prove it?
Him having legitimate wealth outside of the country does not mean he’s corrupt.
On top of that, he doesn’t even have a lot of money. Shit, I have a higher net worth than him.
If I had a nickel for every time you've come in here blindly repeating Russian propaganda with absolutely no awareness whatsoever over the years, I would be able to put a down payment on a Bay Area house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neveragain
It's tragic, disturbing, and (unbeknownst to you) humiliating.
This is a really silly point to be making right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
it's true, and sad. I briefly found it morbidly amusing, but now it's just sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by time4fun
I've given my reasons as to why I don't support either side, you may not like it and that's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solkern
I don't believe it's possible to reach the higher ranks of the political class without being corrupt, in the Ukraine especially.