
Originally Posted by
Parkbandit
Obama wasn't really an unknown. He was expected to run in 2008.
Beating the Clinton Machine wasn't expected though.
I don't know anyone outside of people in Illinois who had ever heard of Obama prior to his run. There are a ton of articles that speak to the fact that he as unknown by almost everyone prior to his run.

Originally Posted by
Parkbandit
Now that this election is behind us.. who do you think the players will be in 4 years?
I think for the Republicans, it's clearly John McCain's nomination to lose.
For the Democrats though.. might be a little tougher. I think Hillary will try, but will have trouble being a Liberal female. I think Barack Obama has a chance but will be hurt by the ignorance of many because he is black.
Discuss:
You did call it in 2004 though.
But if you go through that thread, a lot of people were saying they don't know shit about him.
Last edited by Gelston; 01-13-2022 at 11:35 AM.
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