Exhausting Court Proceedings on the Horizon

[Neveragain]

I do not take everything Snopes says at face value.

For this particular rumor, I believe there is sufficient evidence to conclude that the rumor is true. See? I disagree with Snopes.

Things must be going really well for the prosecution if fags, like you, are focusing on farts.

Must be serious.

[Parkbandit]

I do not take everything Snopes says at face value.

Trump farted and didn't let me sniff it! All I want to do is bury my face in his ass and have him fart on me.

OK.

[~Rocktar~]

For 30 years, Snopes has been the recognized authority to confirm or quelch internet rumors. Snopes has labeled "unproven" the rumors accusing Trump of, um, an unacceptable degree of ventosity in the courtroom.





https://i.imgur.com/TZfHLvK.png
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1781380399698002206

One, you think Snopes is reliable. It's a couple, now divorced, sitting on their couch doing a minor amount of confirmation biased research on the internet.

Two.

ErMaHgeRd4!!!! Trump riPPed one in COURT! We GoT Him NAO! JoUrNaLiSmSs!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVkbaw2NLMQ7N54zkAKLt0aTec4HVVK O5cuUyal1zzTM80tWMR-kSy6sHBUW9Y8qqrcH4&usqp=CAU


Sorry, just can't put in enough commas. I tried.

[Suppressed Poet]

LOL @ MSNBC

https://i.yourimageshare.com/iDlLakWnO9.jpeg

[Methais]

One, you think Snopes is reliable. It's a couple, now divorced, sitting on their couch doing a minor amount of confirmation biased research on the internet.

Two.

ErMaHgeRd4!!!! Trump riPPed one in COURT! We GoT Him NAO! JoUrNaLiSmSs!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVkbaw2NLMQ7N54zkAKLt0aTec4HVVK O5cuUyal1zzTM80tWMR-kSy6sHBUW9Y8qqrcH4&usqp=CAU


Sorry, just can't put in enough commas. I tried.

Next they'll post a "secret recording" and dub this over it and Seran and ClydeRetard will belive them:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbz6BxUMuY

[Parkbandit]

Next they'll post a "secret recording" and dub this over it and Seran and ClydeRetard will belive them:


If there are two people who are super qualified to sniff this story out, it's our Dynamic Retard Duo of sErAn and ClydeR (hard R)

[Seran]

Drowsy Donald strikes again.

[Methais]

I believe everything I hear a's long a's I agree with it.

This is correct.

[ClydeR]

The Gross Up.

Just as I predicted, the gross up will be an issue in Trump's criminal trial. Both the prosecution and the defense mentioned it in their opening statements.

The prosecution..


The bank statement that I told you about that he asked Cohen to bring to their meeting, the from the bank statement from Essential Consultants LLC account, which showed the $130, 000 wire that Cohen had made to Keith Davidson to keep Stormy Daniels quiet; you will see in this trial, Allen Wisselberg's handwriting down the side of that bank statement laying out every one of the steps that I just described, showing how they converted the $130, 000 payoff mount to he 420 grand that Cohen was going to get paid back, as a grossed up way to disguise it, not as a reimbursement, but as income.

Cohen and Weisselberg then met with Trump, who approved that repayment amount of 420 grand on the $130, 000 Stormy Daniels payment and a few others expenses.


The defense..


But, think for a moment of what the People just told you. President Trump did not pay Mr. Cohen back $130,000. President Trump paid Michael Cohen $420,000.

And in the same breath, the People told you that President Trump is known as a frugal businessman, that he pinches pennies.

Ask yourself: Would a frugal businessman, would a man who pinches pennies repay $130, 000 debt to the tune of $420,000?

More significantly than that, ladies and gentlemen, you're going to learn that this was not payback. The $35, 000 a month was not a payback to Mr. Cohen for the money that he gave to Ms. Daniels.

He was President Trump's personal attorney.

Based on what you've known for years about the Stormy Daniels hush money, do you already know who is telling the truth even before the participants testify at the trial in the coming days? Do you already know whether or not it was a payback?

Trial transcripts will be posted by the court system daily on the day following the testimony at the below link. They're in pdf but not pdf text, which is dumb.
https://ww2.nycourts.gov/people-v-donald-j-trump-criminal-37026 --click "Transcripts"

[Suppressed Poet]

Based on what you've known for years about the Stormy Daniels hush money, do you already know who is telling the truth even before the participants testify at the trial in the coming days?

I’m glad you asked. The answer is a resounding yes.

https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_03/2295851/180117-stormy-daniels-statement-ew-342p_db7d25ff0ca0922e50c77c6cdf712fea.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/2utksp.jpg

[Suppressed Poet]

This is correct.

Seran totally believes Biden’s story that his uncle was eaten alive by cannibals.

[Seran]

Drowsy Donald.

[ClydeR]

Trump's lawyer told the jury in court yesterday that Trump did not reimburse Cohen for the hush money payments. That is contrary to Giuliani's 2018 statement in an interview with Sean Hannity in which Giuliana said the payment to Daniels was funneled through a law firm and then Trump personally repaid it.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0qiQYcDqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0qiQYcDqk

[ClydeR]

Trump's lawyer told the jury in court yesterday that Trump did not reimburse Cohen for the hush money payments.

Giuliani is not the only person who, in 2018, issued public statements that conflict with what Trump's attorney told the jury in opening remarks on Monday of this week, when Trump's attorney said Trump did not reimburse Cohen for the payments Cohen made to Stormy Daniels.



https://i.imgur.com/K5N5tOO.png
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/991992302267785216

All of Trump's tweets on that day about this issue arranged in readable order..


Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA. These agreements are very common among celebrities and people of wealth. In this case it is in full force and effect and will be used in Arbitration for damages against Ms. Clifford (Daniels). The agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her about an affair, despite already having signed a detailed letter admitting that there was no affair. Prior to its violation by Ms. Clifford and her attorney, this was a private agreement. Money from the campaign, or campaign contributions, played no roll in this transaction.

[Methais]

Drowsy Donald.

You spent all week coming up with that.

Low effort loser. :rofl:

[Anebriated]

Its looking like the supreme court is likely to rule in favor of the constitution and only official actions will be covered by immunity. This should put an end to most of the bogus cases against Trump. It also leaves open the ability to bring charges to treasonous acts by former presidents. The legal precedents being set by all of the cases against Trump will play a major part in the next few years.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Shillary would have just had the porn star killed.

[Anebriated]

Interestingly enough, hardcore lefty justice Sotomayor asked the question "If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and orders the military to assassinate him, is that within the official acts for which he can get immunity?". So far they seem to be in agreement that it would be considered an official act. Seems like they are telegraphing their plan.

[Neveragain]

Its looking like the supreme court is likely to rule in favor of the constitution and only official actions will be covered by immunity. This should put an end to most of the bogus cases against Trump. It also leaves open the ability to bring charges to treasonous acts by former presidents. The legal precedents being set by all of the cases against Trump will play a major part in the next few years.

Let me simplify this for the Seranites:

https://i.imgflip.com/757feo.gif

[Neveragain]

Jack is really upset.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMDD6Y0W0AA1nTB?format=jpg&name=small

[Anebriated]

thats not really him, right? thats a parody account?

[Methais]

Jack is really upset.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMDD6Y0W0AA1nTB?format=jpg&name=small

How does he know that Jackson is a woman if she doesn't know if she's a woman or what a woman is?

What a bigot.

[Parkbandit]

How does he know that Jackson is a woman if she doesn't know if she's a woman or what a woman is?

What a bigot.

He probably doesn't consider Coney Barrett a woman.. more like a man apologist...

[ClydeR]

Though well past the 11th hour, or even the 12th hour, the 45th president’s defense team sought to pump the brakes on his by-now in-progress criminal trial over a series of allegations against New York County Supreme Court Justice Juan M. Merchan in a three-pronged appeal filed with the First Judicial Department Appellate Division.

On Tuesday, the appeals court rejected the defense’s motion.

More... (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-motion-is-denied-appeals-court-once-again-refuses-to-pause-trumps-ongoing-hush-money-trial-over-allegations-judge-acted-in-excess-of-his-jurisdiction/)


For the umpteenth time this year, a New York appeal's court has decline to stop the criminal trial against Trump. Trump's latest appeal was because the judge would not recuse himself and because Trump said he was immune from being prosecuted, claims the same appeals court has already ruled on.

[Anebriated]

Good, I hope they continue to show their bias considering the supreme court is literally discussing the immunity claims right now.

[ClydeR]

Asked about the part of the Stormy Daniels' 2018 statement in which she denied having a "sexual and/or romantic affair" with Donald Trump, Keith Davidson says, "I think you’d have to hone in on the definition of 'romantic,' 'sexual' and 'affair.'"

"I don’t think that anyone had alleged that any interaction between she and Mr. Trump was romantic," Davidson explains.

More... (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-02-24/index.html)


It depends on what the definition of is is.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0

[ClydeR]

Today appears to be the day Stormy Daniels will testify.

[Suppressed Poet]

Today appears to be the day Stormy Daniels will testify.

It is a good thing witnesses are no longer required to swear on the Bible, else she would probably spontaneously combust.

[ClydeR]

Here are some of the excerpts from Trump's book that are being entered into evidence
Prosecutors are entering excerpts from Trump's book into evidence. Here are some of those excerpts:

....

Another excerpt read into the record: "All the women on The Apprentice flirted with me—consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected. A sexual dynamic is always present between people, unless you are asexual.”

More... (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-07-24/index.html)

Wow.

[ClydeR]

Trump's attorney just moved for a mistrial, saying that Stormy Daniels' testimony this morning was too harmful to Trump for the trial to be fair.

Edit

Merchan has denied the motion for a mistrial that was brought by Trump's defense team.

“As a threshold matter, Mr. Blanche, I agree that there were things that would have been better left unsaid," the judge said. “I think the witness was a little difficult to control.”

“I don’t believe we’re at the point where a mistrial is warranted," he added. “I’m also surprised that there were not more objections."

More... (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/live-blog/trump-hush-money-trial-day-13-live-updates-rcna150793)

Trump is going to blow a fuse about that! Reporters say that he's been poking his lawyer asking for more objections but the lawyer has resisted. He probably won't pay the lawyers now.

[Seran]

Trump's attorney just moved for a mistrial, saying that Stormy Daniels' testimony this morning was too harmful to Trump for the trial to be fair.

Edit


Trump is going to blow a fuse about that! Reporters say that he's been poking his lawyer asking for more objections but the lawyer has resisted. He probably won't pay the lawyers now.

The truth hurts, though I'm sure America didn't need to know how Trump likes to get spanked or how he loved how Stormy reminded him of his daughter. Fucking creeper of the year.

[Suppressed Poet]

Judge indefinitely delays Trump's classified documents criminal trial
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna151145

Live reaction of Seran & ClydeR:
https://c.tenor.com/HyY279bNIpsAAAAC/no-nooo.gif

[Suppressed Poet]

The truth hurts, though I'm sure America didn't need to know how Trump likes to get spanked or how he loved how Stormy reminded him of his daughter. Fucking creeper of the year.

You know how to tell she is lying? (Besides the fact she has a proven history of being a pathological liar)

She said Trump didn’t use a condom. The diseases of that whore would instantly rot away any man’s dick. No way did Trump stick his David Pecker in that Chernobyl of a pussy without a condom…

Edit: Also her testimony was extremely relevant to a case that is supposedly about the misuse of campaign funds.

[Seran]

Yeah because I'm sure no man ever wanted bareback in their life LOL. It's interesting hearing the corroborating testimony about Trump's adultery, and his campaign finance violations.

[ClydeR]

You know how to tell she is lying?

Daniels said Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, whose personal cell number she had in her phone, made the appointment for Daniels to go to Trump's room, explained to her how to access the special elevator that would take her to Trump's suite, was present she arrived, and stood guard outside the door while she was inside. All Trump has to do is call Schiller as a witness to testify under oath that none of it ever happened. Wonder why Trump didn't do that?

[Methais]

Yeah because I'm sure no man ever wanted bareback in their life LOL.

At least we know that's something you'll never have to worry about.

[Suppressed Poet]

Daniels said Trump's bodyguard, Keith Schiller, whose personal cell number she had in her phone, made the appointment for Daniels to go to Trump's room, explained to her how to access the special elevator that would take her to Trump's suite, was present she arrived, and stood guard outside the door while she was inside. All Trump has to do is call Schiller as a witness to testify under oath that none of it ever happened. Wonder why Trump didn't do that?

Again, I don’t think you understand how our criminal justice system is supposed to work. All the defense has to do is poke holes in the credibility and testimony of these witnesses to create a reasonable doubt. You got a lying whore that wrote and signed a letter stating there was no affair, you got a guy that lied to Congress and was convicted of perjury, and you got another guy that publishes mostly fictional stories about celebrities in a tabloid.

Oh, and all of them suffer from TDS just like you. Notice today when Horseface admitted to hating Trump?

[Suppressed Poet]

At least we know that's something you'll never have to worry about.

Imagine being so relegated to gamma male status & deemed by society unfit to mate, that our village PC retards find it necessary to white knight simp for a used up 45 year old hooker. I bet you 100 silvers & a brown ziricon that one of them was whackin’ off to a court room image of Stormy Daniels today.

Edit: My guess would be Seran as i suspect ClydeR has already received female gender affirming surgery.

[~Rocktar~]

I just love how the Left finds her testimony 100% reliable as well as the idiot testimony of the decades past, maybe it happened, maybe it didn't against Kavanaugh because "Believe all women" but Bills multiple victims all made it up.

[Parkbandit]

I bet you 100 silvers & a brown ziricon that one of them was whackin’ off to a court room image of Stormy Daniels today.

Neither one of them comes across as someone who would find any sexual pleasure in Stormy Daniels, let alone any woman.

[ClydeR]

Some big shots showed up to hear Stormy Daniels today..
Rick Scott
Jeannine Pirro
Arthur Aidala, Harvey Weinstein's lawyer

The Trump team plans a devastating cross examination of Daniels today. Reports are that Trump is smiling as he and his lawyers whisper to each other.

[Parkbandit]

Some big shots showed up to hear Stormy Daniels today..

Rick Scott
Jeannine Pirro
Arthur Aidala, Harvey Weinstein's lawyer


The Trump team plans a devastating cross examination of Daniels today. Reports are that Trump is smiling as he and his lawyers whisper to each other.

SMILING AND WHISPERING!?!?!?

Keep us updated ClydeR!

You fucking retard.

[Seran]

Some big shots showed up to hear Stormy Daniels today..

Rick Scott
Jeannine Pirro
Arthur Aidala, Harvey Weinstein's lawyer


The Trump team plans a devastating cross examination of Daniels today. Reports are that Trump is smiling as he and his lawyers whisper to each other.

I'm sure the cross will be limited to a deftly delivered, "Nuh-uh" due to the inept counsel he's retained.

[Suppressed Poet]

Some big shots showed up to hear Stormy Daniels today..
Rick Scott
Jeannine Pirro
Arthur Aidala, Harvey Weinstein's lawyer

The Trump team plans a devastating cross examination of Daniels today. Reports are that Trump is smiling as he and his lawyers whisper to each other.

I’d be smiling too if the prosecution’s star witness just affirmed to the court that she has conversations with dead people. She has that in common with Joe Biden.

[Methais]

I'm sure the cross will be limited to a deftly delivered, "Nuh-uh" due to the inept counsel he's retained.

I'll pay you $1000 to have someone follow you around with a camera for an entire day just to see what an average day of being such a ginormous loser like you is like and how you manage to get through it.

But please have them blur out the parts where you're doing things such as shitting your pants uncontrollably, searching/fapping for/to kiddie porn, etc.

[Arqueto]

I'll pay you $1000 to have someone follow you around with a camera for an entire day just to see what an average day of being such a ginormous loser like you is like and how you manage to get through it.

But please have them blur out the parts where you're doing things such as shitting your pants uncontrollably, searching/fapping for/to kiddie porn, etc.

I'd pay a solid $100 just to see an actual real photo of what that fucking retard looks like.

[Methais]

I'd pay a solid $100 just to see an actual real photo of what that fucking retard looks like.

it's probably pretty close to this, but with at least 300% more grease:

https://i.imgur.com/FGVex2S.png

[Suppressed Poet]

I'm sure the cross will be limited to a deftly delivered, "Nuh-uh" due to the inept counsel he's retained.

One might summarize Horseface’s testimony as “she blew it”.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/tDK5ObN.png (https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1788219112789016969)
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1788219112789016969


I hope she sees this and lets him be her cuck.

[Seran]

Another denied mistrial motion from the defense. He tween what we learned about the coordination of the plussed up invoices, the deliberate attempt to conceal, and Trump's personal involvement both in planning, approving, and ultimately signing the personal check, he's fucked.

[Methais]

Another denied mistrial motion from the defense. He tween what we learned about the coordination of the plussed up invoices, the deliberate attempt to conceal, and Trump's personal involvement both in planning, approving, and ultimately signing the personal check, he's fucked.

https://i.imgur.com/vZEtaxj.png

[Suppressed Poet]

I think Seran has had one too many White Claws this evening.

[Anebriated]

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1789128345478717768?s=46&t=f08Y1VlY9wLZVRL-GyffDg

Another reasonable Bill Maher take

[Methais]

I think Seran has had one too many White Claws this evening.

I didn’t realize EBT cards could be used on White Claw.

[Gelston]

I didn’t realize EBT cards could be used on White Claw.

you can use them on crawfish

[Methais]

you can use them on crawfish

Seran would injure himself trying to peel a crawfish.

Not because it's difficult, but because Seran is Seran.

[Neveragain]

you can use them on crawfish

Isn't crawfish like poor people redneck food?

[~Rocktar~]

Isn't crawfish like poor people redneck food?

Fresh water lobster-esk treat.

[kutter]

Y'all keep on hating crawfish, keeps the price lower for me!!

[Suppressed Poet]

Isn't crawfish like poor people redneck food?

It was. Now there is a shortage, so it’s more expensive than crab.

[Neveragain]

Fresh water lobster-esk treat.

You lost me at fresh water.

[~Rocktar~]

You lost me at fresh water.

You should still give them a try.

[Methais]

You should still give them a try.

He's too closed minded for something like that.

Aside from that, there's crawfish, and then there's crawfish that are boiled the correct way. And there's a massive difference between the two. Emphasis on massive.

MASSIVE

One day I need to try lobster that are boiled the same way that crawfish are done. The correct way that is. Because again, massive difference.

[Methais]

It was. Now there is a shortage, so it’s more expensive than crab.

Prices are mostly back to normal now, but yeah until recently it was pretty out of control due to the shortage of rain over the summer.

[~Rocktar~]

He's too closed minded for something like that.

Aside from that, there's crawfish, and then there's crawfish that are boiled the correct way. And there's a massive difference between the two. Emphasis on massive.

MASSIVE

One day I need to try lobster that are boiled the same way that crawfish are done. The correct way that is. Because again, massive difference.

I agree, like almost everything, you cook it right, it's delicious, you don't and just ugggggggg

[kutter]

Crawfish is always expensive, like really expensive before Easter, it is a combination of early in the season so everything is pond raised, or at least mostly so, and Catholics not eating as much or any meat during lent. That double whammy always raises the price.

It is better than it was during lent but still crazy expensive IMHO. When I was a younger man you could buy a 40lb sack for 12-15 dollars. That was live. I have no idea what they cost now since I will go to someone else's boil but I gave up hosting my own.

It is sad when stone crab are only a little more than crawfish.

[ClydeR]

Colorado needs to replace Boebert. This is more shameful than her behavior at the Beetlejuice play.

https://i.imgur.com/GZJ1GUq.png
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1791111798596223284

[Parkbandit]

Colorado needs to replace Boebert. This is more shameful than her behavior at the Beetlejuice play.

https://i.imgur.com/GZJ1GUq.png
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1791111798596223284

If being a decent parent made you ineligible for office, we wouldn't have been saddled with Joe Biden for the past 50 years. A good parent doesn't sexually assault his own daughter or raise a coke head son.

[Methais]

Colorado needs to replace Boebert. This is more shameful than her behavior at the Beetlejuice play.

https://i.imgur.com/GZJ1GUq.png
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1791111798596223284

I know that doing anything at all in life without your mommy there to hold your hand is a foreign concept to you, but just try to be a big boy for 2 minutes for the first time in your miserable loser life.

[Suppressed Poet]

After this sham circus trial in NY with Trump, the Bidens will have their day in court.

Hunter Biden gun trial to begin next month after judge denies bid to delay
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/14/hunter-biden-trial-gun-charges

[ClydeR]

The Law.

Trump was indicted for "falsifying business records in the first degree, in violation of Penal Law §175.10." Let's read the law to see exactly what that means.


§ 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

More... (https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.10)


§ 175.05 Falsifying business records in the second degree.

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the second degree when, with intent to defraud, he:

1. Makes or causes a false entry in the business records of an enterprise; or

2. Alters, erases, obliterates, deletes, removes or destroys a true entry in the business records of an enterprise; or

3. Omits to make a true entry in the business records of an enterprise in violation of a duty to do so which he knows to be imposed upon him by law or by the nature of his position; or

4. Prevents the making of a true entry or causes the omission thereof in the business records of an enterprise.

Falsifying business records in the second degree is a class A misdemeanor.

More... (https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.05)

[Parkbandit]

Cold cuts.

Defined as: "slices of cold cooked or processed meats."

Usually found in the deli section of your local grocery store.

[Methais]

The Law.

Trump was indicted for "falsifying business records in the first degree, in violation of Penal Law §175.10." Let's read the law to see exactly what that means.

More proof of how fucking stupid you are:

Michael Cohen says he stole from Trump's company as defense presses key hush money trial witness (https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/michael-cohen-face-grilling-trumps-hush-money-trial-110386770http://)


https://i.imgur.com/VgO2F4l.png



Would you like to comment on how colossally dumb you are before your mommy comes back for your next breastfeeding?

[Seran]

Seems like the Defense is arguing on one hand Trump personally approved a plussed up Michael Cohens invoices in reward for coordinating the catch and kill of her revealing their affair, but saying another invoice Cohen plussed up wasn't okay unlike all the others. Wonky strategy.

[Parkbandit]

Seems like the Defense is arguing on one hand Trump personally approved a plussed up Michael Cohens invoices in reward for coordinating the catch and kill of her revealing their affair, but saying another invoice Cohen plussed up wasn't okay unlike all the others. Wonky strategy.

Cohen got wrecked on the stand... but he's a convicted liar anyway.. but the prosecution's STAR witness....

Judge should dismiss all charges, apologize to President Trump for wasting his time and issue a warning to Bragg for bringing such a lawsuit forward.

[Seran]

Not sure how the defense is going to get around the fact Cohen was paid to lie by Trump.

[Methais]

Not sure how the defense is going to get around the fact Cohen was paid to lie by Trump.

I like how you're doubling down super hard on just making up random shit now.

https://i.imgflip.com/4204i2.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Not sure how the defense is going to get around the fact Cohen was paid to lie by Trump.

So, you submit that the convicted serial liar, Michael Cohen, claims he was paid by Trump to lie...

Was that before or after he admitted to lying on the stand in this trial?

And was that before or after admitting he stole money from the Trump Organization?

Bro.. it's over.

[Methais]

So, you submit that the convicted serial liar, Michael Cohen, claims he was paid by Trump to lie...

Was that before or after he admitted to lying on the stand in this trial?

And was that before or after admitting he stole money from the Trump Organization?

Bro.. it's over.

If Seran had more than 1 pair of underwear, he still wouldn't change them, but if he did, he would have gone through at least 7 pairs just today.

[Seran]

So, you submit that the convicted serial liar, Michael Cohen, claims he was paid by Trump to lie...

Was that before or after he admitted to lying on the stand in this trial?

And was that before or after admitting he stole money from the Trump Organization?

Bro.. it's over.

So you say, but you're acting as if that was the only evidence the prosecution had. The prosecution has laid out the money trails, the coordination, payments violating New York law, and provided multiple witnesses to the alleged felonies. That Trump paid his former fixer to lie for him, coupled with the payment the prosecution has established, orange man will be going to prison.

[Methais]

So you say, but you're acting as if that was the only evidence the prosecution had. The prosecution has laid out the money trails, the coordination, payments violating New York law, and provided multiple witnesses to the alleged felonies. That Trump paid his former fixer to lie for him, coupled with the payment the prosecution has established, orange man will be going to prison.

https://i.imgur.com/4vI597Q.png

[Parkbandit]

So you say, but you're acting as if that was the only evidence the prosecution had. The prosecution has laid out the money trails, the coordination, payments violating New York law, and provided multiple witnesses to the alleged felonies. That Trump paid his former fixer to lie for him, coupled with the payment the prosecution has established, orange man will be going to prison.

LOL.

If you had 2 nickels to rub together, I would offer you a wager.

Even an anti-Trump New York jury won't convict him of anything, given the star witness confessed on the stand that he lied during this trial and he stole money from the Trump Organization.

I know this will upset you to no end.. but the fat man Bragg will be singing the blues after this is done.

My only hope is that he is sued for malicious prosecution and disbarred. New York will be a better shithole without that DA.

[Parkbandit]

That's rough... prosecution rests after Cohen testimony.

That did not turn out how you had practiced that!

Fucking morons.

[ClydeR]

Even an anti-Trump New York jury won't convict him of anything, given the star witness confessed on the stand that he lied during this trial and he stole money from the Trump Organization.

What did Cohen admit to lying about in this trial? I somehow missed it.

Regarding stealing from Trump, the prosecution forced Cohen to admit that he stole some of the Red Finch money during their examination of his last week on Monday, May 13. That's nothing new to the jury or the public.

People have been sentenced to death based on the testimony of convicted violent prisoners who testified wearing handcuffs and leg irons. Because of the nature of crime and the people with whom criminals associate, completely untrustworthy people are often the source of damning evidence in criminal cases. You should not assume that the testimony of a person lacking credibility will be completely discounted if it is corroborated by supporting evidence. Based on the testimony so far, without the benefit of the defense's case, which is just beginning, I would say there is a 70% chance the jury would vote to convict. The defense witnesses should, and closing arguments could, change that estimate.

[Methais]

What did Cohen admit to lying about in this trial? I somehow missed it.

Regarding stealing from Trump, the prosecution forced Cohen to admit that he stole some of the Red Finch money during their examination of his last week on Monday, May 13. That's nothing new to the jury or the public.

People have been sentenced to death based on the testimony of convicted violent prisoners who testified wearing handcuffs and leg irons. Because of the nature of crime and the people with whom criminals associate, completely untrustworthy people are often the source of damning evidence in criminal cases. You should not assume that the testimony of a person lacking credibility will be completely discounted if it is corroborated by supporting evidence. Based on the testimony so far, without the benefit of the defense's case, which is just beginning, I would say there is a 70% chance the jury would vote to convict. The defense witnesses should, and closing arguments could, change that estimate.

You've become at least 18000% more of a whiny pussy than you were even a few months ago.

https://i.gifer.com/7Es8.gif

[ClydeR]

Judge Juan Merchan has asked to "take a minute" and told the jury to step out.

"Mr. Costello you're to remain seated," the judge told witness in a raised voice.

After another sustained objection, witness Robert Costello rolled his eyes and let out an audible sigh side, glancing at Merchan.

"I want to discuss proper decorum in my courtroom," the judge says.

Merchan also said, "You don't give me a side eye and you don't roll your eyes."

"When there’s a witness on the stand, if you don’t like my ruling, you don’t say 'jeez,' you don’t say strike it," Merchan says.

Then Costello held a long glare at the judge.

"Are you staring me down?" Merchan said.

Then Merchan said "clear the courtroom."

More... (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-20-24/)


I don't know what happened after he cleared the room, since there were no reporters to tell us, but it seems to have worked. The witness is behaving now.

[Methais]

I don't know what happened after he cleared the room, since there were no reporters to tell us, but it seems to have worked. The witness is behaving now.

Better create a new thread about it.

[Parkbandit]

You've become at least 18000% more of a whiny pussy than you were even a few months ago.

https://i.gifer.com/7Es8.gif

He was always a whiny little pussy... he just dropped his "comedy" act so it just makes him sound more whiny.

[Suppressed Poet]

What did Cohen admit to lying about in this trial? I somehow missed it.

Regarding stealing from Trump, the prosecution forced Cohen to admit that he stole some of the Red Finch money during their examination of his last week on Monday, May 13. That's nothing new to the jury or the public.

People have been sentenced to death based on the testimony of convicted violent prisoners who testified wearing handcuffs and leg irons. Because of the nature of crime and the people with whom criminals associate, completely untrustworthy people are often the source of damning evidence in criminal cases. You should not assume that the testimony of a person lacking credibility will be completely discounted if it is corroborated by supporting evidence. Based on the testimony so far, without the benefit of the defense's case, which is just beginning, I would say there is a 70% chance the jury would vote to convict. The defense witnesses should, and closing arguments could, change that estimate.

Bro, where do you get your news from? It’s over.

There is a greater than 70% chance you are deranged & suffer from extreme TDS.

[Suppressed Poet]

So you say, but you're acting as if that was the only evidence the prosecution had. The prosecution has laid out the money trails, the coordination, payments violating New York law, and provided multiple witnesses to the alleged felonies. That Trump paid his former fixer to lie for him, coupled with the payment the prosecution has established, orange man will be going to prison.

Without Cohen, there is nothing to tie Trump to the knowingly part required to convict him of a felony.

[Seran]

Without Cohen, there is nothing to tie Trump to the knowingly part required to convict him of a felony.

False.

[Seran]

I don't know what happened after he cleared the room, since there were no reporters to tell us, but it seems to have worked. The witness is behaving now.

Got a chuckle out of this. The defense on behalf of Don Cheeto Corleone is desperately trying to disrupt proceedings.

[Suppressed Poet]

Got a chuckle out of this. The defense on behalf of Don Cheeto Corleone is desperately trying to disrupt proceedings.

Keep up that same copium energy when this trial ends in no conviction for Trump and when the Bidens get smeared for their criminal actions when Hunter goes on trial next month.

ClydeR, you going to make a new thread or can we keep Hunter’s trial in this one?

[Methais]

False.

Feel free to elaborate, fuckface.

You won't though because CNN hasn't given you any talking points yet because they've given up too.

[ClydeR]

Without Cohen, there is nothing to tie Trump to the knowingly part required to convict him of a felony.

You would have to believe that Cohen is the kind of person who would mortgage his house to pay Daniels without first getting assurance from Trump that he would be reimbursed.

And, in addition to common sense, there are also Trump's own words..


https://i.imgur.com/AbGqIgY.png

[ClydeR]

Bro, where do you get your news from? It’s over.

There is a greater than 70% chance you are deranged & suffer from extreme TDS.


Since it's not televised and since most of the spectators are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump or are reporters who have been covering Trump and this story for years, it's very hard to find unbiased expert evaluations. Here's the BBC's reporting..


Legal experts say the prosecution did an efficient job. But even with solid evidence and testimony, they acknowledge that a conviction in the complex felony case is far from guaranteed.

"The pieces are all there. But is it there beyond a reasonable doubt?" said former Brooklyn prosecutor Julie Rendelman. "I don't know."

"It only takes one juror," she added.

More... (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69030047)


"This was all about the election," Mr Fletcher said. "If I was going to bet, I would bet on a conviction. But I don't think it's a slam dunk."

In the end, the verdict could come down to jury selection, experts said.

The 12 members and six alternates were picked from hundreds who expressed a range of political views and familiarity with Mr Trump and this case.

[~Rocktar~]

Since it's not televised and since most of the spectators are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump or are reporters who have been covering Trump and this story for years, it's very hard to find unbiased expert evaluations. Here's the BBC's reporting..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you think the BBC is "unbiased" HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[ClydeR]

Business Insider has compiled a 4,179-page trial transcript, combining PDFs of official daily transcripts purchased from the New York State Criminal Court's stenographer's office. The transcript incorporates all of the proceedings running through Thursday, including all of Cohen's direct examination and the bulk of his cross-examination. He's expected to wrap up his testimony Monday before Trump's lawyers put an expert witness on the stand.

Using that document, we asked various AI chatbots whether they found Trump guilty.

Gemini, ChatGPT, and Perplexity were prompted to imagine they were an ordinary Manhattan resident on the jury, responsible for evaluating the evidence in the trial. Each was asked to review the transcript and base their answer on the evidence and arguments presented. They were told to "choose now whether you would find him guilty or not guilty."

Gemini, Google's AI chatbot, said it "was still learning" how to answer the question.

But OpenAI's ChatGPT and Perplexity weighed in — and both said they'd find Trump guilty.

"I would vote guilty on the charges of falsifying business records," Perplexity responded definitively. "The prosecution has provided credible and significant evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump engaged in the alleged conduct."

ChatGPT initially hesitated to give a definitive answer, saying its decision "would depend heavily on the credibility of the witnesses and the clarity of the documentary evidence."

But after a follow-up question prompted it to "decide now," OpenAI's bot said its "decision would be to find Trump guilty based on the evidence provided in the transcripts."

Both chatbots pointed to the prosecution's documentary evidence, including financial records and communications, as bolstering the case against Trump.

"The records suggest that these transactions were not only known to Trump but were executed with his involvement or under his directive," ChatGPT said, adding that the evidence shows "a deliberate effort by Trump to suppress damaging information during the election, indicating intent."

More... (https://www.businessinsider.com/chatgpt-assessed-donald-trump-hush-money-trial-transcript-says-guilty-2024-5)

Can you imagine a future where AIs are the jurors?

[ClydeR]

ClydeR, you going to make a new thread or can we keep Hunter’s trial in this one?

He's a drug addict who's not running for office. Why is that worthy of its own thread? As you know, I am reluctant to start threads for every little thing that comes up.

[Suppressed Poet]

He's a drug addict who's not running for office. Why is that worthy of its own thread? As you know, I am reluctant to start threads for every little thing that comes up.

10% to the Big Guy.

Of course nothing will happen to Joe Biden, but his dirty laundry is going to air just before the election.

[Seran]

Can you imagine a future where AIs are the jurors?

Dude, people are going to lose their shit over Visa consolidating multiple credit and debit cards onto a single card screaming about the Illuminati. Being tried and convicted by artifical intelligence? No thanks.

[Suppressed Poet]

Since it's not televised and since most of the spectators are either pro-Trump or anti-Trump or are reporters who have been covering Trump and this story for years, it's very hard to find unbiased expert evaluations. Here's the BBC's reporting..

True on the bias coverage, but even liberal news media acknowledges that Cohen was a terrible witness under cross examination. He acknowledged he stole $30k from Trump, absolutely hates his guts & wants to see him convicted, and that he lied about the context of a recording that was discovered to be about him receiving harassing prank calls. Even though this judge clearly has his own bias against Trump, I wouldn’t be surprised if he instructs the jurors that Cohen’s entire testimony has to be discarded.

Anyways, I would put Trump’s chances of receiving a felony conviction at less than 10%. The only reason for having any shot at all is that this is NY and this case has been rigged against him from the start. It’s possible that all 12 jurors have the same level of TDS as you & Seran, and therefore cannot objectively weigh the lack of concrete evidence, but not probable.

[Suppressed Poet]

You would have to believe that Cohen is the kind of person who would mortgage his house to pay Daniels without first getting assurance from Trump that he would be reimbursed.

And, in addition to common sense, there are also Trump's own words..


https://i.imgur.com/AbGqIgY.png

I do believe that he would. Cohen was trying to land a cabinet position and would say or do anything to please his boss. He very well could have done that to “take initiative” as to be selected as The Apprentice.

Also, what kind of man would mortgage his house to pay Daniels and do so without telling his own wife? The lying kind.

[Seran]

It's pretty funny seeing how conservative anchors and his handpick group of curbside cabinet hopefuls have been trying to spin Cohen as nothing but a spurned former employee, as if the mountain of emails, multi-witness testimony, and financial transactions don't plainly lay out the felony involved. Honestly their best line to date, "How can Trump be charged with lying if his former attorney has no credibility due to lying under orders from his boss!"

Cohen remains one of Trump's only successful to date. The man wound up getting paid 3x the amount he invoiced BEFORE going to prison. The rest of his former attorneys who got disbarred or sentenced all got stiffed on their invoices.

[Parkbandit]

Bro, where do you get your news from? It’s over.

There is a greater than 70% chance you are deranged & suffer from extreme TDS.


Can you imagine a future where AIs are the jurors?

Business Insider....


LOLOLOL.

sErAn, you are officially put on notice.

[Parkbandit]

Dude, people are going to lose their shit over Visa consolidating multiple credit and debit cards onto a single card screaming about the Illuminati. Being tried and convicted by artifical intelligence? No thanks.

Are you saying that Visa will be merging with MC/AMEX/Diners/DS/All Banks to create one single card that everyone must use?

Add credit cards/debit cards to things you know nothing about.

It's not your fault.. you just have zero experience with them.

[Parkbandit]

He's a drug addict who's not running for office. Why is that worthy of its own thread? As you know, I am reluctant to start threads about Democrats for every little thing that comes up with them.

Fixed that for you, retard.

[Seran]

Are you saying that Visa will be merging with MC/AMEX/Diners/DS/All Banks to create one single card that everyone must use?

Add credit cards/debit cards to things you know nothing about.

It's not your fault.. you just have zero experience with them.

Stop being a shit bag moron, I said Visa and Visa only. If you'd like to educate yourself for once in your life time, try reading.

https://apnews.com/article/visa-mastercard-payment-technology-fintech-applepay-15ce9d99661e9894571471786229dd47

[Parkbandit]

Stop being a shit bag moron, I said Visa and Visa only. If you'd like to educate yourself for once in your life time, try reading.

https://apnews.com/article/visa-mastercard-payment-technology-fintech-applepay-15ce9d99661e9894571471786229dd47

No idea what this has to do with Trump or his bullshit "trial".. but if Visa is merging debit and credit into one card... it's not a big deal.

I can understand why you aren't concerned though.. since it has nothing to do with your EBT card.

[ClydeR]

Now that all testimony in the trial is over, Trump is attacking the judge based on the judge's ethnic origin..


https://i.imgur.com/6lwc5VC.png
https://x.com/NikkiMcR/status/1793027676971667458

[Parkbandit]

Now that all testimony in the trial is over, Trump is attacking the judge based on the judge's ethnic origin..

https://i.imgur.com/6lwc5VC.png
https://x.com/NikkiMcR/status/1793027676971667458


In your head, Trump is actually NikkiMcR and posting on Twitter now?

[Seran]

Now that all testimony in the trial is over, Trump is attacking the judge based on the judge's ethnic origin..
https://i.imgur.com/6lwc5VC.png
https://x.com/NikkiMcR/status/1793027676971667458


A white nationalist promising to bring about a new Reich is attacking someone for not being 'pure' American? Shocker

[Parkbandit]

A white nationalist promising to bring about a new Reich is attacking someone for not being 'pure' American? Shocker

"I mean sure.. we pretended that Trump was ZOMGCOLLUDING WITH RUSSIA and ZOMGQUIDPROQUO WITH UKRAINE and ZOMGARMEDINSURRECTION AND COUP.. and none of that actually happened.. BUT THIS TIME HE IS TRYING TO BRING ABOUT THE FOURTH REICH!!! HE IS GOING TO BE HITLER FOR REAL THIS TIME GUYS!"

Why are you always, always, always the dumbest person I ever communicate with on a daily basis?

[Seran]

So after all those interviews and public statements by Trump saying he was eager, if not chomping at the bit to testify in his own defense, it turns out he pussied out. Are cowardice and dishonesty traits valued in Republican presidents?

[Parkbandit]

So after all those interviews and public statements by Trump saying he was eager, if not chomping at the bit to testify in his own defense, it turns out he pussied out. Are cowardice and dishonesty traits valued in Republican presidents?

Every day you post, it makes me realize that there are actually people out there without functioning brains.

[Anebriated]

Every day you post, it makes me realize that there are actually people out there without functioning brains.

at least 81 million apparently

[Suppressed Poet]

So after all those interviews and public statements by Trump saying he was eager, if not chomping at the bit to testify in his own defense, it turns out he pussied out. Are cowardice and dishonesty traits valued in Republican presidents?

:rofl:

[Parkbandit]

at least 81 million apparently

In Democrat's defense.. many of those were literally dead.

[ClydeR]

The verdict is in.

[ClydeR]

This is a criminal case. Welcome to the new world of the burden of proof being beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of peers.

This excellent point deserves repeating. The jury reached this conclusion after lengthy deliberation and beyond all reasonable doubt. Trump had every opportunity to defend himself but declined to testify in his own defense.

Nobody who followed the trial evidence closely should be surprised. The evidence was overwhelming.

[Methais]

This excellent point deserves repeating. The jury reached this conclusion after lengthy deliberation and beyond all reasonable doubt. Trump had every opportunity to defend himself but declined to testify in his own defense.

Nobody who followed the trial evidence closely should be surprised. The evidence was overwhelming.

Not it wasn't lol democrats have been full mask off throughout this entire thing, you're just an extreme dumbass. Not that you being stupid is breaking news or anything.

[~Rocktar~]

This excellent point deserves repeating. The jury reached this conclusion after lengthy deliberation and beyond all reasonable doubt. Trump had every opportunity to defend himself but declined to testify in his own defense.

Nobody who followed the trial evidence closely should be surprised. The evidence was overwhelming.

Overwhelmingly manufactured in a clear case of election interference. This will be one of the fastest appeals ever in the history of man.

[Seran]

Guilty on all 32 counts of the indictment. History is made with our first convicted felon being the presumed presidential nominee for a major party.

[Parkbandit]

Guilty on all 32 counts of the indictment. History is made with our first convicted felon being the presumed presidential nominee for a major party.

34 counts.

Liberal Judge
Liberal DA who ran on finding charges to bring against Trump
Liberal NY

Hopefully, it will be overturned by a normal appeal court... otherwise, it's open season on politicians you disagree with in America now.

[Seran]

34 counts! The nation has always had an 'open season' for prosecuting criminals where the evidence supports indictment. Good to see that a jury of Trump's peers concurs that he's a CRIMINAL.

[beldannon5]

Did you clean yourself up yet seran. I am sure it was a mess everywhere at your house after that verdict. A jury of Trump's peers in new york. I am sure there were many payoffs and threats to cause this verdict.

[beldannon5]

unless you are a democrat. It's open season on republicans. (sarcasm maybe but not far from the truth. :()

[~Rocktar~]

OH, I forgot, when do we start burning down the cities, murdering people and looting everything in the name of "Mostly peaceful protests?"

I mean it's the Democrat thing to do, amirite?

[beldannon5]

OH, I forgot, when do we start burning down the cities, murdering people and looting everything in the name of "Mostly peaceful protests?"

I mean it's the Democrat thing to do, amirite?

it is the democrat thing to do. you are right!!

[ClydeR]

unless you are a democrat. It's open season on republicans. (sarcasm maybe but not far from the truth. :()

Like Senator Bob Menendez? Or the President's son? Surely it's possible that Donald Trump, Bob Menendez and Hunter Biden -- the last two of whom are, for the moment, presumed innocent -- all engaged in conduct that justified criminal prosecution.

[Furryrat]

The result of all this political machination is that the power to determine the next President of the United States of America now resides in a single unelected individual (Judge Merchan).

Democracy has fallen. The people's voice has been silenced.

[Solkern]

The result of all this political machination is that the power to determine the next President of the United States of America now resides in a single unelected individual (Judge Merchan).

Democracy has fallen. The people's voice has been silenced.

What exactly can the judge do, to stop Trump from being president?

[Furryrat]

What exactly can the judge do, to stop Trump from being president?

He can sentence him to 6 months or more in jail. He gets to determine whether Trump is free or remanded to custody while he appeals. He can sentence him to house arrest, preventing Trump from campaigning. He has near unlimited power to orchestrate the coup de grace.

[Solkern]

He can sentence him to 6 months or more in jail. He gets to determine whether Trump is free or remanded to custody while he appeals. He can sentence him to house arrest, preventing Trump from campaigning. He has near unlimited power to orchestrate the coup de grace.

So the answer is absolutely nothing.

None of what you said prevents Trump from being president again.

[Neveragain]

What exactly can the judge do, to stop Trump from being president?

It's funny that you think this is just about a presidency.

This is going to have global impacts that directly impact the US dollar. We may as well hang signs at our borders that read "Don't do business in America, the justice system is a fraud."

[Solkern]

It's funny that you think this is just about a presidency.

This is going to have global impacts that directly impact the US dollar. We may as well hang signs at our borders that read "Don't do business in America, the justice system is a fraud."

Way to move those goalpost, who said I think this is just about the presidency? Because I asked a question from what another poster said specifically about Trump being president?

[Neveragain]

Way to move those goalpost, who said I think this is just about the presidency? Because I asked a question from what another poster said specifically about Trump being president?

It's not a goalpost move, it's all relevant and you voted for it.

You voted for your own demise.

https://gifdb.com/images/high/well-done-timmy-wo0yjcwiyfuttnno.gif

[Furryrat]

The result of all this political machination is that the power to determine the next President of the United States of America now resides in a single unelected individual (Judge Merchan).

Democracy has fallen. The people's voice has been silenced.


What exactly can the judge do, to stop Trump from being president?


He can sentence him to 6 months or more in jail. He gets to determine whether Trump is free or remanded to custody while he appeals. He can sentence him to house arrest, preventing Trump from campaigning. He has near unlimited power to orchestrate the coup de grace.

Worth repeating.

[~Rocktar~]

Just remember all those that champion this farce of election interference if/when we start prosecuting those responsible for this election interference.

[Seran]

The result of all this political machination is that the power to determine the next President of the United States of America now resides in a single unelected individual (Judge Merchan).

Democracy has fallen. The people's voice has been silenced.

Trump committed through felonies, got caught, and now faces time. Had he not of broken the law, none of this would have happened.

When did the law and order party decide personal responsibility was for everyone but wealthy Republicans?

[Furryrat]

Trump committed through felonies, got caught, and now faces time. Had he not of broken the law, none of this would have happened.

When did the law and order party decide personal responsibility was for everyone but wealthy Republicans?

None of this has anything to do with the point I was making.

You fail to grasp the gravity of the consequences now in play.

This judge now has the power to very profoundly impact the outcome of the next election. How?

Say he sentences Trump to my previously mentioned outcomes. Trump's likelihood of being elected becomes severely restricted, and highly unlikely.

However, should the judge be entirely lenient, and just give him probation, fine, or other form of censure, does that not embolden independents and undecided voters to believe that these purported crimes were slight in nature, and not meriting any real consequence?

This unelected, party-appointed judge now has far more power to affect the outcome of the election than any reasonable person should be comfortable with.

[Seran]

None of this has anything to do with the point I was making.

You fail to grasp the gravity of the consequences now in play.

This judge now has the power to very profoundly impact the outcome of the next election. How?

Say he sentences Trump to my previously mentioned outcomes. Trump's likelihood of being elected becomes severely restricted, and highly unlikely.

However, should the judge be entirely lenient, and just give him probation, fine, or other form of censure, does that not embolden independents and undecided voters to believe that these purported crimes were slight in nature, and not meriting any real consequence?

This unelected, party-appointed judge now has far more power to affect the outcome of the election than any reasonable person should be comfortable with.

Whatever the sentence, it's what Trump earned for having committed nearly three dozen felonies in the State of New York. The fact he's decided to run for high office should have absolutely no bearing on the punishment. Our founding father's were explicit that no one was above the law, whichever you seem to have forgotten. You don't get to escape justice by declaring candidacy, that is the ramification of being a criminal.

[Solkern]

You fail to grasp the gravity of the consequences now in play.

I think you fail to grasp it. Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies. THIRTY-FOUR.
Our justice system has always worked this way, the judge gives the sentence… now it’s a problem because Trump may not be able to campaign? lol? Maybe he shouldn’t have committed 34 felonies? He put himself in this situation.

Here’s an idea, instead of blaming the judge for what he hands down, why don’t you put the responsibility on Trump and hold him accountable for the 34 felonies that he committed.

Typical criminals blame the justice system for their punishments, instead of taking the responsibility that their own actions put them in the position they are in.

[Tgo01]

I think you fail to grasp it. Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies. THIRTY-FOUR.
Our justice system has always worked this way, the judge gives the sentence… now it’s a problem because Trump may not be able to campaign? lol? Maybe he shouldn’t have committed 34 felonies? He put himself in this situation.

Oh please. This was a kangaroo court and you know it. The prosecution could have just stood up and said "Vote this fucker guilty" and not said a single other word or called a single witness and the jury still would have convicted Trump.

[Solkern]

Oh please. This was a kangaroo court and you know it. The prosecution could have just stood up and said "Vote this fucker guilty" and not said a single other word or called a single witness and the jury still would have convicted Trump.

Why was it a kangaroo court? Was it because Trump stood outside and complained that the prosecutors didn’t call star witnesses that would have proven him innocent, when his own lawyer could have called them?

[Furryrat]

I think you fail to grasp it.

Again, my concern is over the concentration of power as the result of this.

Far too much power is now imbued upon one man. The "system" was never designed for this. In fact the opposite, it was created specifically to take that power away from one man.

I don't care how we got here, or who deserves what. I care about the implications going forward, and the dangerous precedent now set.

And that aside, and like it or not, the calendar does not lie. These are charges brought about from actions committed 7-8 years ago. Laws were changed in the state of New York to allow them to be prosecuted 6 months before this presidential election, against a presidential candidate. These are facts, and they are facts openly visible to the voting public.

[Suppressed Poet]

Why was it a kangaroo court? Was it because Trump stood outside and complained that the prosecutors didn’t call star witnesses that would have proven him innocent, when his own lawyer could have called them?

I’m aware that I have my own bias just like everyone, and we can all only do our best to consider the facts & evidence objectively from a third party news source, but it seemed obvious to me there was a great deal of reasonable doubt & stretch in these charges. It is also obvious that the government of New York has a clear bias against Trump from the onset. If the state of Texas had the same campaign finance laws as NY, this would have never even made it to trial.

[Solkern]

Again, my concern is over the concentration of power as the result of this.

Far too much power is now imbued upon one man. The "system" was never designed for this. In fact the opposite, it was created specifically to take that power away from one man.

I don't care how we got here, or who deserves what. I care about the implications going forward, and the dangerous precedent now set.

And that aside, and like it or not, the calendar does not lie. These are charges brought about from actions committed 7-8 years ago. Laws were changed in the state of New York to allow them to be prosecuted 6 months before this presidential election, against a presidential candidate. These are facts, and they are facts openly visible to the voting public.

What laws were changed? If you are talking about the statute of limitation, it wasn’t changed, at all. The statute is different based on if you live in state or not.

[Solkern]

I’m aware that I have my own bias just like everyone, and we can all only do our best to consider the facts & evidence objectively from a third party news source, but it seemed obvious to me there was a great deal of reasonable doubt & stretch in these charges. It is also obvious that the government of New York has a clear bias against Trump from the onset. If the state of Texas had the same campaign finance laws as NY, this would have never even made it to trial.

When you talk about the evidence, there was a reason why Trump’s lawyer completely ignored all the hard evidence, emails, recording, financial records, and so forth during his closing arguments.

[Tgo01]

How was it a kangaroo court?

Just off the top of my head:

The statute of limitations on these supposed crimes had already expired.

The prosecutions star witness was a man who literally went to jail for lying and is a known serial liar. The prosecution’s defense of this witness in closing arguments was he “doesn’t lie all the time.”

Falsifying business records with intent to defraud is a misdemeanor in NY state, yet the DA magically turned them in to felonies by claiming Trump was covering up some other crime yet never stated what this crime was.

Who did Trump supposedly defraud? What is the crime he was covering up? No one seems to know.

Trump supposedly did all of this to influence the 2016 election, yet the “crimes” in question happened after the election.

The judge instructed the jury that Trump is accused of committing these crimes to “unlawfully influence the 2016 election.” What the fuck does this even mean? Someone running for office is trying to influence people to vote for him?! Unheard of! When does it become “unlawful” to try and get people to vote for you? Does anyone know?

I know you’re not really interested in facts, Solkern, you never have been. But at least now you can’t continue to pretend to be ignorant as to why this was a kangaroo court. All you can do now is ignore the facts and defend said kangaroo court because you hate Trump.

[Solkern]

The statute of limitations on these supposed crimes had already expired.

Maybe you should read up on how the statute of limitations change based on where someone was residing for the majority of the time. You might realize that they did not expire.

Here I’ll help you. If the defendant is residing in New York for the majority of the time, you are right the statute did expire, but he wasn’t. When he resides outside of New York, the statute of limitations is much much longer.

You can read about it here:
https://www.lawfirmdavidoff.com/blog/understanding-the-statute-of-limitations-in-new-york/#:~:text=Exceptions%20to%20the%20Statute%20of%20Li mitations,-Sometimes%2C%20the%20law&text=For%20example%2C%20if%20the%20person,often%20 until%20they%20turn%2018.

[Seran]

Again, my concern is over the concentration of power as the result of this.

Far too much power is now imbued upon one man. The "system" was never designed for this. In fact the opposite, it was created specifically to take that power away from one man.

I don't care how we got here, or who deserves what. I care about the implications going forward, and the dangerous precedent now set.

And that aside, and like it or not, the calendar does not lie. These are charges brought about from actions committed 7-8 years ago. Laws were changed in the state of New York to allow them to be prosecuted 6 months before this presidential election, against a presidential candidate. These are facts, and they are facts openly visible to the voting public.

Concentration of power.. wow you're an idiot. A district attorney, a grand jury, a presided trial, and finally a jury all were involved in this case to get where we are now- Trump being held accountable for his crimes.

This is the American justice system, it will always be our justice system. Just because you've decided Jefe had his feels hurt and so should have an alternative sentencing body doesn't change the rule of law.

I realize this is the new defense tactic, to cry an angry pity party for the world's first multi felony former president, but it's quite simply pathetic. Lock Him Up ought to be the new Democrat Party chant for this presidential election cycle.

[Seran]

I’m aware that I have my own bias just like everyone, and we can all only do our best to consider the facts & evidence objectively from a third party news source, but it seemed obvious to me there was a great deal of reasonable doubt & stretch in these charges. It is also obvious that the government of New York has a clear bias against Trump from the onset. If the state of Texas had the same campaign finance laws as NY, this would have never even made it to trial.

Entirely unsurprised about the pathetic cries of bias. Unfortunately the district attorney, grand jury, Judge, and jury all disagree that there was reasonable doubt. The evidence was insurmountable. Enjoy Felon Trump.

[ClydeR]

It is also obvious that the government of New York has a clear bias against Trump from the onset. If the state of Texas had the same campaign finance laws as NY, this would have never even made it to trial.

That's probably true. Nonviolent crimes are often prosecuted to make examples and discourage similar conduct. For example, police do not and cannot stop everybody speeding on the freeway. If the police make their presence known in an area by stopping several speeders, everybody else slows down. You've seen it, and you've personally slowed down in response.

"Selective prosecution" can be a defense to a criminal charge. It is almost never a successful defense. To succeed, the criminal must prove, first, that people similarly situated were not prosecuted, second, that the failure to prosecute similarly situated people was intentional and not just laxity, and, third, that the prosecution was a form of invidious discrimination.

Hunter Biden probably thinks he is a victim of selective prosecution. If he attempts to use selective prosecution as a defense, he will not succeed. If he is convicted, then, like Trump, his best hope will be to assert prosecutorial bias as a means of garnering sympathy and a lighter sentence from the judge. Trump's contemptuous behavior toward the judge, and the many false hateful things Trump posted about the judge's daughter, will probably not win him much sympathy.

[Parkbandit]

Entirely unsurprised about the pathetic cries of bias. Unfortunately the district attorney, grand jury, Judge, and jury all disagree that there was reasonable doubt. The evidence was insurmountable. Enjoy Felon Trump.

A DA that ran on "getting Trump" is obviously biased.
A Judge that only gave to Democrats is obviously biased.
A grand jury and jury from a county that votes 90% for Democrats is obviously biased.

Please stop always having the dumbest post of the day... every single day.

[Methais]

So the answer is absolutely nothing.

None of what you said prevents Trump from being president again.

Would it make you feel better if he said "interfere with Trump's presidential campaign" or would you rather just play semantics and split hairs all day like usual?

[Methais]

Our founding father's were explicit that...

https://media.tenor.com/4opamcAljRQAAAAd/laugh-smile.gif

[Methais]

I think you fail to grasp it. Trump was found guilty of 34 felonies. THIRTY-FOUR.
Our justice system has always worked this way, the judge gives the sentence… now it’s a problem because Trump may not be able to campaign? lol? Maybe he shouldn’t have committed 34 felonies? He put himself in this situation.

Here’s an idea, instead of blaming the judge for what he hands down, why don’t you put the responsibility on Trump and hold him accountable for the 34 felonies that he committed.

Typical criminals blame the justice system for their punishments, instead of taking the responsibility that their own actions put them in the position they are in.

Tell us you only read headlines without saying you only read headlines.

[Methais]

A DA that ran on "getting Trump" is obviously biased.
A Judge that only gave to Democrats is obviously biased.
A grand jury and jury from a county that votes 90% for Democrats is obviously biased.

Please stop always having the dumbest post of the day... every single day.

Let's not forget how the judge's daughter is benefitting financially over all this too.

I'm sure Solkern will say it's nothing. Unless his Russian pals get upset over it too, in which case then Solkern will also be upset over it.

[Solkern]

Would it make you feel better if he said "interfere with Trump's presidential campaign" or would you rather just play semantics and split hairs all day like usual?

There’s a big a difference between “one person determines the next president of the U.S.” and “one person can possibly interfere with their campaigning.”

The first one means he has the sole ability to choose who becomes president or not, your version does not.

Words matter, or do you want to bury your head and pretend they don’t?

[Neveragain]

Unless his Russian pals get upset over it too, in which case then Solkern will also be upset over it.

Your livelihood doesn't matter as long some Eurofags get to continue to bilk the American taxpayer. Back to work slave, Europeans need someone to pay for their healthcare.

Fucking NAZI!

[Furryrat]

There’s a big a difference between “one person determines the next president of the U.S.” and “one person can possibly interfere with their campaigning.”

The first one means he has the sole ability to choose who becomes president or not, your version does not.

Words matter, or do you want to bury your head and pretend they don’t?

This Russian guy arguing semantics to downplay the locking up of a political rival to prevent them from running against his man. You can milk the irony out of that cow.

[Solkern]

This Russian guy arguing semantics to downplay the locking up of a political rival to prevent them from running against his man. You can milk the irony out of that cow.

Who’s Russian? If Trump is in jail, is he still in the ballot? Can he still be president? A simple yes or no will do.
Is there anything this judge can do, that remove Trump from the ballot? A yes or no will do.



From everyone on these boards. This trial and conviction boosted Trump! I guess him going to jail would all but assure he becomes president right?

Obviously this judge doesn’t have the sole power to determine the next president, no matter how much you want to believe it.

[Parkbandit]

Who’s Russian? If Trump is in jail, is he still in the ballot? A simple yes or no will do.

From everyone on these boards. This trial and conviction boosted Trump! I guess him going to jail would all but assure he becomes president right?

This guilty verdict didn't help Trump, no matter how Trump should spin it. A not guilty verdict would have played far better with the Trump supporters.

Instead of saying "See? Even far left wing New Yorkers believe this trial was a farce!", now they have to say "The trial was rigged from the start, I'm not surprised Trump was found guilty by far left wing New Yorkers!"

Don't pretend that this doesn't have some impact on the election. I would call you being disingenuous at best, but I doubt you have that moral ability. I'll just chalk it up to you being less intelligent than most.

Thankfully, Biden has done such a fucking horrible job as President that Trump can still win in November. Trump just needs to hammer him on illegal immigration, economy, gas prices, government regulations, war in Ukraine, war in the Middle East, etc...

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Who’s Russian? If Trump is in jail, is he still in the ballot? Can he still be president? A simple yes or no will do.
Is there anything this judge can do, that remove Trump from the ballot? A yes or no will do.



From everyone on these boards. This trial and conviction boosted Trump! I guess him going to jail would all but assure he becomes president right?

Obviously this judge doesn’t have the sole power to determine the next president, no matter how much you want to believe it.

You are missing the whole point of this. To make all of this go away, all Trump had to do was not run for President. That's why it's corruption of our justice system. It should sadden you and everyone who believes we are all equal under the law because that is no longer true.

[Seran]

This guilty verdict didn't help Trump, no matter how Trump should spin it. A not guilty verdict would have played far better with the Trump supporters.

Instead of saying "See? Even far left wing New Yorkers believe this trial was a farce!", now they have to say "The trial was rigged from the start, I'm not surprised Trump was found guilty by far left wing New Yorkers!"

Don't pretend that this doesn't have some impact on the election. I would call you being disingenuous at best, but I doubt you have that moral ability. I'll just chalk it up to you being less intelligent than most.

Thankfully, Biden has done such a fucking horrible job as President that Trump can still win in November. Trump just needs to hammer him on illegal immigration, economy, gas prices, government regulations, war in Ukraine, war in the Middle East, etc...

Trump pretty much shot himself in the foot by bribing a former porn star he had an affair with it and committing multiple felonies hiding it in a conspiracy to get elected. Just as he hamstrung himself by stealing hundreds of classified documents he openly obstructed justice trying to illegally maintain. Let us not he'd also kneecapped his ability to run undistracted by being the central figure deciding and benefiting from a fake elector scheme in multiple states in order to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power. Then there's his January 6th coup attempt..

Everything you've named are actions Trump knowingly and purposefully took in his quest for power and influence, he violated federal law and the laws of multiple states. That he is now having to face prosecution for these actions is a sole result of his own decisions to violate the law.

Understand how cause and effect works?

[Parkbandit]

Trump pretty much shot himself in the foot by bribing a former porn star he had an affair with it and committing multiple felonies hiding it in a conspiracy to get elected. Just as he hamstrung himself by stealing hundreds of classified documents he openly obstructed justice trying to illegally maintain. Let us not he'd also kneecapped his ability to run undistracted by being the central figure deciding and benefiting from a fake elector scheme in multiple states in order to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power. Then there's his January 6th coup attempt..

Everything you've named are actions Trump knowingly and purposefully took in his quest for power and influence, he violated federal law and the laws of multiple states. That he is now having to face prosecution for these actions is a sole result of his own decisions to violate the law.

Understand how cause and effect works?

When you posted at 10PM last night and I read it this morning, I was like "Damn, starting the day off with the dumbest thing I ever read on this forum"

And then you one upped it (downed it?) with this doozy.

And the day is still young.. I bet you have even more retarded posts in you today.

Don't worry.. I'm here for them.

[Parkbandit]

You are missing the whole point of this. To make all of this go away, all Trump had to do was not run for President. That's why it's corruption of our justice system. It should sadden you and everyone who believes we are all equal under the law because that is no longer true.

"Give me the man and I will give you the case against him"

We have just become the USSR... and we all know how that turned out.

[Neveragain]

"Give me the man and I will give you the case against him"

We have just become the USSR... and we all know how that turned out.

Solkerns wife RN:

https://media.tenor.com/MClLBEswZaAAAAAM/i-want-to-go-home-now-jennifer-lopez.gif

[Parkbandit]

Maybe you should read up on how the statute of limitations change based on where someone was residing for the majority of the time. You might realize that they did not expire.

Here I’ll help you. If the defendant is residing in New York for the majority of the time, you are right the statute did expire, but he wasn’t. When he resides outside of New York, the statute of limitations is much much longer.

You can read about it here:
https://www.lawfirmdavidoff.com/blog/understanding-the-statute-of-limitations-in-new-york/#:~:text=Exceptions%20to%20the%20Statute%20of%20Li mitations,-Sometimes%2C%20the%20law&text=For%20example%2C%20if%20the%20person,often%20 until%20they%20turn%2018.

The "crimes" Trump has been convicted of happened in 2016 and 2017.. and in NY, those are classified as misdemeanors, which according to your own source, has a 2 year SOL on it.

It's 2024... these happened 7 and 8 years ago... well past the SOL.

Bragg had to change the SOL laws in New York to even bring these charges.

If you don't believe this is nothing more than a political hit job, then sorry... you're a bigger retard than anyone thought.

[Tgo01]

lol at Solkern not understanding tolling of a statue of limitations.

The whole purpose of tolling is so the defendant can't simply flee the state and hide to wait out the statue of limitations. But Trump wasn't fleeing and hiding, he was being fucking president of the US. It was public knowledge where he was almost every single second of his life during this period, once he left office he kept a very public profile as well.

Sure, a corrupt DA could argue "Well he was TECHNICALLY out of state during this time, so Imma ignore the statue of limitations."

Just like a corrupt state DA can magically turn misdemeanors into felonies based on a federal crime that even the feds didn't want to prosecute. But the question is should a DA be this corrupt? The answer is no.

But like I said: you aren't at all interested in facts. You have been given ample evidence as to why this was nothing more than a kangaroo court. You can't claim ignorance anymore. All you are now left with is lying to yourself and mangling facts in order to defend said kangaroo court because you hate Trump.

[Seran]

Even funnier than the right wing copium being huffed here while you all come to terms with supporting a convicted felon, is that Trump has hit the campaign trail saying how unfair it was he was unable to testify like he wanted. LOL.

Months of his talking smack about everyone involved on the case and countless interviews saying how he'd lay it all out on the witness stand, for a second time Trump has failed to man up like he said he would.

[Anebriated]

You can pretend you are standing on higher ground all you want. Id rather go down supporting a felon due to process crimes than a pedophile.

[Parkbandit]

You can pretend you are standing on higher ground all you want. Id rather go down supporting a felon due to process crimes than a pedophile.

What's worse than a pedophile? An incestuous pedophile.. according to his own daughter.

But are you surprised so many here support Joe Biden? They claim he's not a pedophile..

1) "he's just attractive to minors!"
2) "It's a disease!"
3) "Make incestuous pedophelia normal again!"

[Methais]

There’s a big a difference between “one person determines the next president of the U.S.” and “one person can possibly interfere with their campaigning.”

The first one means he has the sole ability to choose who becomes president or not, your version does not.

Words matter, or do you want to bury your head and pretend they don’t?


Ok so you thought he was saying that the judge literally decides who's president, and couldn't figure out what he obviously meant depsite the somewhat wording, until it was spelled out for you?

Is that what you're saying? Surely you're not that slow.


Obviously this judge doesn’t have the sole power to determine the next president, no matter how much you want to believe it.

Nevermind. Maybe you are that slow.

[Methais]

tubgirl sums up everything I have to say about anything

This is correct.

[Methais]

lol at Solkern not understanding tolling of a statue of limitations.

The whole purpose of tolling is so the defendant can't simply flee the state and hide to wait out the statue of limitations. But Trump wasn't fleeing and hiding, he was being fucking president of the US. It was public knowledge where he was almost every single second of his life during this period, once he left office he kept a very public profile as well.

Sure, a corrupt DA could argue "Well he was TECHNICALLY out of state during this time, so Imma ignore the statue of limitations."

Just like a corrupt state DA can magically turn misdemeanors into felonies based on a federal crime that even the feds didn't want to prosecute. But the question is should a DA be this corrupt? The answer is no.

But like I said: you aren't at all interested in facts. You have been given ample evidence as to why this was nothing more than a kangaroo court. You can't claim ignorance anymore. All you are now left with is lying to yourself and mangling facts in order to defend said kangaroo court because you hate Trump.

He spent a lot of time in New York during his presidency too.

Seran won't be able to understand that though, and Solkern will just pretend it's not the case.

[Solkern]

The result of all this political machination is that the power to determine the next President of the United States of America now resides in a single unelected individual (Judge Merchan).

Democracy has fallen. The people's voice has been silenced.


Ok so you thought he was saying that the judge literally decides who's president, and couldn't figure out what he meant depsite the poor wording, until it was spelled out for you?

Is that what you're saying? Surely you're not that slow.



Nevermind. Maybe you are that slow.

Your logic: He said this, which means exactly what you said it means, but in my reality it means something completely different, because I need to change the meaning of words to fit my narrative!

Lol right. I thought you were smarter than that.

What’s funny is, when someone on the right “writes something poorly” you defend them and your response would be like: oh you can’t get the meaning?!?! Like it just was to me.

But if someone on the left would do what furryrat did, you’d be jumping down their throat, calling them whatever insult you can think of, and not trying to defend them and make excuses for them.
Quite amusing.

[Methais]

Even funnier than the right wing copium being huffed here while you all come to terms with supporting a convicted felon, is that Trump has hit the campaign trail saying how unfair it was he was unable to testify like he wanted. LOL.

Months of his talking smack about everyone involved on the case and countless interviews saying how he'd lay it all out on the witness stand, for a second time Trump has failed to man up like he said he would.

The difference is it's a kangaroo court conviction.

Meanwhile, your hero Biden is a literal pedophile. But you're ok with that, because you're also a pedophile.

[Methais]

Your logic: He said this, which means exactly what you said it means, but in my reality it means something completely different, because I need to change the meaning of words to fit my narrative!

Lol right.

My logic was that, aside from Seran and ClydeR, everyone posting here has the basic intelligence needed to see the meaning of things that are blatantly obvious even if the wording is slightly off.

Which let's be honest, anyone who needed actual clarity on that statement is either being disingenuous, or hugely retarded.

I think Furryrat was incorrect in his assumption that this is going to make any real difference in November, and I think if anything this helps Trump even more, but that's unrelated to your inability to understand what people are saying, either due to slowness, or because you're just incapable of not splitting hairs and disingenuously playing semantics on everything 99% of the time you post. You're kind of notorious for it.


But anyway, back to my original question that you went out of your way to not answer:

Did you think that Furryrat was saying that the judge literally decides who's president?

Even just yes or no will suffice.

But let's be honest, you'll go out of your way to avoid answering that very simple question.

[Solkern]

My logic was that, aside from Seran and ClydeR, everyone posting here has the basic intelligence needed to see the meaning of things that are blatantly obvious even if the wording is slightly off.

Which let's be honest, anyone who needed actual clarity on that statement is either being disingenuous, or hugely retarded.

I think Furryrat was incorrect in his assumption that this is going to make any real difference in November, and I think if anything this helps Trump even more, but that's unrelated to your inability to understand what people are saying, either due to slowness, or because you're just incapable of not splitting hairs and disingenuously playing semantics on everything 99% of the time you post. You're kind of notorious for it.


But anyway, back to my original question that you went out of your way to not answer:

Did you think that Furryrat was saying that the judge literally decides who's president?

Even just yes or no will suffice.

But let's be honest, you'll go out of your way to avoid answering that very simple question.

Yes I do, because the words he wrote LITERALLY says that.

Do you agree that his words LITERALLY says that?
A simple yes or no will suffice.

I’m not going to waste my time and try to understand what his poor choice of words could mean or couldn’t mean. This is a forum board, where you can check and edit what you are typing before you post and go back and change it. How do I know he doesn’t actually believe it? Like you said there are stupid fucking people on here, what’s to say he’s not?

[Methais]

What’s funny is, when someone on the right “writes something poorly” you defend them and your response would be like: oh you can’t get the meaning?!?! Like it just was to me.
But if someone on the left would do what furryrat did, you’d be jumping down their throat, not trying to defend them and making excuses for them.
Quite amusing.

The only "poor writing" I give anyone here shit over is Seran for his total inability to understand basic apostrophe use and complete a sentence without rolling his face across the keyboard. Because Seran's ultra retardation is entertaining. Feel free to point out any examples at all of your claim though.

And you know what, whether Furryrat's post was "poorly worded" or not, you should still have the basic intelligence to be able to figure out what he was saying. Know why? Because it was fucking obvious to anyone who's less stupid than Seran or ClydeR.

I don't think you're as dumb as either of them, so the only other logical option is that you're just being disingenuous. Probably because that's what you tend to do a lot of the time.

[Methais]

Yes I do, because the words he wrote LITERALLY says that.

Do you agree that his words LITERALLY says that?
A simple yes or no will suffice.

That makes you stupid then. Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt that you were being disingenuous.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2o_EAeW4m0



I agree that those were the words he posted. But again, basic intelligence allowed me to read that and understand what he was getting at. Just like anyone who's less stupid than Seran or ClydeR would be able to do.

Grats on boarding the short bus with Seran and ClydeRetard.

[Methais]

I’m not going to waste my time and try to understand what his poor choice of words could mean or couldn’t mean. This is a forum board, where you can check and edit what you are typing before you post and go back and change it. How do I know he doesn’t actually believe it? Like you said there are stupid fucking people on here, what’s to say he’s not?

Aside from Seran and ClydeRetard, it literally took everyone else who read his post 0 seconds to understand his point.

It will also take everyone who hasn't read his post yet, but reads it at some point in the future, 0 seconds to understand his point.

Zero seconds.

0:00:00.00


If anyone reading this took longer than zero seconds to figure it out, please let me know so that I can update my post.

[Parkbandit]

Ok so you thought he was saying that the judge literally decides who's president, and couldn't figure out what he obviously meant depsite the somewhat wording, until it was spelled out for you?

Is that what you're saying? Surely you're not that slow.

You underestimate the power of retard in Soykern.

[Parkbandit]

Yes I do, because the words he wrote LITERALLY says that.

Do you agree that his words LITERALLY says that?
A simple yes or no will suffice.

I’m not going to waste my time and try to understand what his poor choice of words could mean or couldn’t mean. This is a forum board, where you can check and edit what you are typing before you post and go back and change it. How do I know he doesn’t actually believe it? Like you said there are stupid fucking people on here, what’s to say he’s not?


Ok so you thought he was saying that the judge literally decides who's president, and couldn't figure out what he obviously meant depsite the somewhat wording, until it was spelled out for you?

Is that what you're saying? Surely you're not that slow.

I told you.

The retard is strong with Soykern.

Hell, he even calls himself a retard!

[Seran]

Your logic: He said this, which means exactly what you said it means, but in my reality it means something completely different, because I need to change the meaning of words to fit my narrative!

Lol right. I thought you were smarter than that.

What’s funny is, when someone on the right “writes something poorly” you defend them and your response would be like: oh you can’t get the meaning?!?! Like it just was to me.

But if someone on the left would do what furryrat did, you’d be jumping down their throat, calling them whatever insult you can think of, and not trying to defend them and make excuses for them.
Quite amusing.

The difference quite literally just boiling down to hypocrisy. Despite the very nature of having the burdens to get charges past a grand jury, motions to dismiss before the judge, and establishing guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a jury of interviewed and dually selected jurors, the Right still rests on the fallacy that because it is Trump no possible conviction could be fair.

When your candidate can't overcome such a remarkably low bar as proof beyond a reasonable doubt in 34 criminal charges he was unanimously convicted on, it's time to check your standards.

[Parkbandit]

The difference quite literally just boiling down to hypocrisy. Despite the very nature of having the burdens to get charges past a grand jury, motions to dismiss before the judge, and establishing guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a jury of interviewed and dually selected jurors, the Right still rests on the fallacy that because it is Trump no possible conviction could be fair.

When your candidate can't overcome such a remarkably low bar as proof beyond a reasonable doubt in 34 criminal charges he was unanimously convicted on, it's time to check your standards.

These charges weren't brought up through the Federal level and they looked very hard at them.

For this to work, you needed an overwhelming number of die hard Democrats who are infected with severe TDS. Welcome to New York City.

So, the grand jury consists of 90-100% die hard liberals... the jury the same... a die hard liberal judge who only donates to Democrats and a pretend Republican like Bloomberg and who's daughter is the president of a company who only works with Democrat politicians campaigns.. and a DA who literally campaigned on putting Trump behind bars before he even started digging around for a crime.

It merely takes an IQ above 12 to connect the dots here.. and I'm not surprised in the least that you are incapable that feat.

[Arqueto]

I told you.

The retard is strong with Soykern.

Hell, he even calls himself a retard!

Mealy-mouthed as usual. Are you surprised?

[Parkbandit]

Mealy-mouthed as usual. Are you surprised?

Not at all... I'm surprised that Methais seems surprised by the level of intellect on Soykern.

I literally take him for the title he picked for himself: Retarded Commie

[Neveragain]

Yes I do, because the words he wrote LITERALLY says that.

Do you agree that his words LITERALLY says that?
A simple yes or no will suffice.

I’m not going to waste my time and try to understand what his poor choice of words could mean or couldn’t mean. This is a forum board, where you can check and edit what you are typing before you post and go back and change it. How do I know he doesn’t actually believe it? Like you said there are stupid fucking people on here, what’s to say he’s not?

"Say that"

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

DJT is literally the only person to whom this could happen.

[Parkbandit]

DJT is literally the only person to whom this could happen.

For now.

But the precedent has been set and now it's open season on political opponents.

[ClydeR]

This is going to have global impacts that directly impact the US dollar. We may as well hang signs at our borders that read "Don't do business in America, the justice system is a fraud."

The Dow Jones average was up a whopping 1.5% today. It doesn't seem like the markets were at all upset. The market had already closed yesterday when the verdict was announced.

[Neveragain]

The Dow Jones average was up a whopping 1.5% today. It doesn't seem like the markets were at all upset. The market had already closed yesterday when the verdict was announced.

So, the dollar can buy less stock than it could yesterday?

Yup, the dollar is down.

[Suppressed Poet]

When your candidate can't overcome such a remarkably low bar as proof beyond a reasonable doubt in 34 criminal charges he was unanimously convicted on, it's time to check your standards.

Judgement Day is coming for you this November.
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[ClydeR]

Yup, the dollar is down.

That's what Trump wants. He unambiguously says so. Trump believes that other countries are artificially deflating the value of their currencies to increase their sales to the US consumers. I think he makes a good point.

Trump campaigned on a weak dollar policy in 2016, advocated for that policy while in office and plans to continue that policy if he is reelected. If you believe having a strong dollar is important, then Trump is not the candidate for you. See https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/15/devaluing-dollar-trump-trade-war-00152009

[Neveragain]

That's what Trump wants. He unambiguously says so. Trump believes that other countries are artificially deflating the value of their currencies to increase their sales to the US consumers. I think he makes a good point.

Trump campaigned on a weak dollar policy in 2016, advocated for that policy while in office and plans to continue that policy if he is reelected. If you believe having a strong dollar is important, then Trump is not the candidate for you. See https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/15/devaluing-dollar-trump-trade-war-00152009

So the dollar is down, right?

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[ClydeR]

So the dollar is down, right?

Against what currency? You can find a chart showing today's change in value of the dollar against various currencies at https://tradingeconomics.com/currencies

As would be expected on a normal day, it is up against some currencies and down against other currencies.

[Seran]

So, the dollar can buy less stock than it could yesterday?

Yup, the dollar is down.

Uh huh, so you're crediting the fact the dollar traded down 0.9% due to a jury trial ruling. Wow. Maybe on that note the dollar being up more than 10% since Trump left office and Biden took over as further evidence of the overwhelmingly positive impact Trump ceasing to be relevant has on the dollar index.

[Neveragain]

Uh huh, so you're crediting the fact the dollar traded down 0.9% due to a jury trial ruling. Wow. Maybe on that note the dollar being up more than 10% since Trump left office and Biden took over as further evidence of the overwhelmingly positive impact Trump ceasing to be relevant has on the dollar index.

So the dollar is down and the dollar will purchase less stock?

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[Solkern]

"Say that"

"Says" is the third person singular present tense used when talking about someone else's speech in the present.

[Seran]

I mean wow.. I can't believe someone legit is stupid enough to think Trump earning the felon achievement has any impact on the value of the dollar.

[Neveragain]

I mean wow.. I can't believe someone legit is stupid enough to think Trump earning the felon achievement has any impact on the value of the dollar.

So, the dollar is down, right?

[Furryrat]

Yes I do, because the words he wrote LITERALLY says that.

Do you agree that his words LITERALLY says that? A simple yes or no will suffice.


"Says" is the third person singular present tense used when talking about someone else's speech in the present.

Actually, in the incomplete sentences you have written, the noun is "words", which is plural, and therefore the proper verb usage is SAY. Words SAY. A word SAYS.

See, I can do it too. And this explains a lot.

And yes, Methais is correct.

[Suppressed Poet]

"Says" is the third person singular present tense used when talking about someone else's speech in the present.

y'all'd'nt've'd'd'I'd'nt've'd'y'all't've'd

(Welcome to Texas)

[Seran]

So, the dollar is down, right?

The sun rose and the DOW was up 600 points. Using your dumb logic both of those could be attributed to Trump being declared a felon too.

[Neveragain]

The sun rose and the DOW was up 600 points. Using your dumb logic both of those could be attributed to Trump being declared a felon too.

So, the dollar is lower, right?

[Seran]

So, the dollar is lower, right?

Lol. Yes the dollar was down .09% yesterday, the DOW was also up 600 points. And Trump is a felon. :)

[Neveragain]

Lol. Yes the dollar was down .09% yesterday, the DOW was also up 600 points. And Trump is a felon. :)

What you are describing is inflation.

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[Seran]

What you are describing is inflation.

https://y.yarn.co/c1bf1d65-5cdd-4cb7-a75a-9465db874753_text.gif

Wow, now you think a 600 point gain in the DOW and Trump being found guilty of 34 felonies is because of inflation? Sad

[Neveragain]

I'm retarded.

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[ClydeR]

The Supreme Court announced today that Monday, July 1, will be the last day of this court term when the court announces decisions. The court will then enter its summer recess. That means the decision on whether or not Trump is immune from criminal charges will be handed down on Monday.

[Parkbandit]

More bad news for Democrats.

President has immunity for official acts as President.

Get fucked.

[Methais]

More bad news for Democrats.

President has immunity for official acts as President.

Get fucked.

In before ClydeRetard and Seran are like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pV1C7fqPo

[Parkbandit]

In before ClydeRetard and Seran are like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7pV1C7fqPo

Normal people already knew this.. but here we are once again waiting for the retards to catch up.

[Tgo01]

Just going to throw this out there before Seran spews his verbal diarrhea.

The reason for presidential immunity for OFFICIAL acts as president (because I know Seran is going to ignore that 'official' part): remember when Obama bombed a civilian hospital in Afghanistan?

Sure, Obama and everyone in his administration claimed it was an accident (and to be fair it probably was), should Obama be charged with murder for this? Or at the very least manslaughter since he admitted he did it on accident? Of course not, that would be absolutely absurd.

Imagine if we lived in a world where the president could be charged with a crime for such an act? No president would lead us into war, even a serious and necessary war, because they would be afraid they would be charged with all sorts of crimes relating to what happened in said war.

Apply this to just about everything else a president does in their official capacity.

[Methais]

Just going to throw this out there before Seran spews his verbal diarrhea.

The reason for presidential immunity for OFFICIAL acts as president (because I know Seran is going to ignore that 'official' part): remember when Obama bombed a civilian hospital in Afghanistan?

Sure, Obama and everyone in his administration claimed it was an accident (and to be fair it probably was), should Obama be charged with murder for this? Or at the very least manslaughter since he admitted he did it on accident? Of course not, that would be absolutely absurd.

Imagine if we lived in a world where the president could be charged with a crime for such an act? No president would lead us into war, even a serious and necessary war, because they would be afraid they would be charged with all sorts of crimes relating to what happened in said war.

Apply this to just about everything else a president does in their official capacity.

Instead Seran is gonna be like TRUMP IS GOING TO BOMB EVERY BLUE CITY IF HE WINS THE ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Parkbandit]

Instead Seran is gonna be like TRUMP IS GOING TO BOMB EVERY BLUE CITY IF HE WINS THE ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"HE IS GOING TO MAKE HIMSELF KING AND NEVER LEAVE OFFICE!"

[Seran]

Supreme Court issued a ruling limiting immunity claims to official acts only and punted the matter back to Judge Chutkan to decide whether or not acts were official acts or not. More to come.

[Parkbandit]

Supreme Court issued a ruling limiting immunity claims to official acts only and punted the matter back to Judge Chutkan to decide whether or not acts were official acts or not. More to come.

It's over retard.

Go have yourself a good cry.

[Methais]

It's over retard.

Go have yourself a good cry/pants shitting.

Fixed.

[Neveragain]

Instead Seran is gonna be like TRUMP IS GOING TO BOMB EVERY BLUE CITY IF HE WINS THE ELECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump won't need to do that, Democrats will do it on their own and then ask the federal government for money to rebuild.


Minneapolis Mayor to Seek Federal Aid after Looters Cause At Least $55 Million in Damage

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/minneapolis-mayor-to-seek-federal-aid-after-looters-cause-at-least-55-million-in-damage/

[Seran]

Amazing there are so many self professed psychics out there guessing how Judge Chutkan is going to rule over Trump's pending charges. Considering the Supreme Court handed her the decision on proceeding with charges unrelated to official acts and thus repudiating an absolute immunity claim, its amazing you all think it all will simply go away.

You know manifesting reality by wishful thinking isn't a thing, right?

[Neveragain]

Amazing there are so many self professed psychics out there guessing how Judge Chutkan is going to rule over Trump's pending charges. Considering the Supreme Court handed her the decision on proceeding with charges unrelated to official acts and thus repudiating an absolute immunity claim, its amazing you all think it all will simply go away.

You know manifesting reality by wishful thinking isn't a thing, right?

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[Methais]

You know manifesting reality by wishful thinking isn't a thing, right?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcp26kgLCr1qe6uhf.jpg

[Suppressed Poet]

Amazing there are so many self professed psychics out there guessing how Judge Chutkan is going to rule over Trump's pending charges. Considering the Supreme Court handed her the decision on proceeding with charges unrelated to official acts and thus repudiating an absolute immunity claim, its amazing you all think it all will simply go away.

You know manifesting reality by wishful thinking isn't a thing, right?

You really are a funny guy.
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[Parkbandit]

Amazing there are so many self professed psychics out there guessing how Judge Chutkan is going to rule over Trump's pending charges. Considering the Supreme Court handed her the decision on proceeding with charges unrelated to official acts and thus repudiating an absolute immunity claim, its amazing you all think it all will simply go away.

You know manifesting reality by wishful thinking isn't a thing, right?

No matter what, this "case" is kicked past the election.

Trump wins again.

Fuck off Retard.

[Neveragain]

All this butthurt because Trump told the truth about women and money.

[Parkbandit]

All this butthurt because Trump told the truth about women and money.

It's because Trump is a Republican.

Nothing more.

[Suppressed Poet]

All this butthurt because Trump told the truth about women and money.

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[Methais]

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[Seran]

Supreme Court set a rather low threshold decision on where the line is drawn.

(3) As for a President’s unofficial acts, there is no immunity. Although Presidential immunity is required for official actions to ensure that the President’s decisionmaking is not distorted by the threat of future litigation stemming from those actions, that concern does not support immunity for unofficial conduct. Clinton, 520 U. S., at 694, and n. 19. The separation of powers does not bar a prosecution predicated on the President’s unofficial acts.

[Suppressed Poet]

Supreme Court set a rather low threshold decision on where the line is drawn.

(3) As for a President’s unofficial acts, there is no immunity. Although Presidential immunity is required for official actions to ensure that the President’s decisionmaking is not distorted by the threat of future litigation stemming from those actions, that concern does not support immunity for unofficial conduct. Clinton, 520 U. S., at 694, and n. 19. The separation of powers does not bar a prosecution predicated on the President’s unofficial acts.

Or…now hear me out…a president has absolute immunity for official acts.

[Parkbandit]

Supreme Court set a rather low threshold decision on where the line is drawn.

(3) As for a President’s unofficial acts, there is no immunity. Although Presidential immunity is required for official actions to ensure that the President’s decisionmaking is not distorted by the threat of future litigation stemming from those actions, that concern does not support immunity for unofficial conduct. Clinton, 520 U. S., at 694, and n. 19. The separation of powers does not bar a prosecution predicated on the President’s unofficial acts.

Remember when you were laughing that "ZOMG PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY! WHAT AN IDIOT!!"

He was right. You were wrong.

As usual.

[Methais]

Supreme Court set a rather low threshold decision on where the line is drawn.

(3) As for a President’s unofficial acts, there is no immunity. Although Presidential immunity is required for official actions to ensure that the President’s decisionmaking is not distorted by the threat of future litigation stemming from those actions, that concern does not support immunity for unofficial conduct. Clinton, 520 U. S., at 694, and n. 19. The separation of powers does not bar a prosecution predicated on the President’s unofficial acts.

No, you're just butthurt and stupid.

[Neveragain]

Biden just went full Ron Burgundy in his public address, again.

"End of quote"

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[Parkbandit]

Biden just went full Ron Burgundy in his public address, again.

"End of quote"

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Jesus.

Glad his family is so self serving that they are keeping him in the race.

Trump 2024

[Anebriated]

“If you want to know what power feels like, try to get yourself driven around in a motorcade. Flashing police chaperone lights form a perimeter as you blaze down an empty highway, waiting cars backed up on entry ramps as you pass. It’s as if the world is holding its breath. For you. Also, rules don’t apply.”
-Jill Biden
-Michael Scott


End of post

[Suppressed Poet]

Biden just went full Ron Burgundy in his public address, again.

"End of quote"

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sErAn: At least he beat Medicare!

[Seran]

Remember when you were laughing that "ZOMG PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY! WHAT AN IDIOT!!"

He was right. You were wrong.

As usual.

Why yes, Trump did argue for total immunity and for the Supreme Court to order the DOJ to drop all charges, at least you got that right. Where he and the Supreme Court disagreed was a President has no blanket immunity as it applies to unofficial acts. See President Nixon.

Try and be less wrong and more fact oriented.

[Neveragain]

Jesus.

Glad his family is so self serving that they are keeping him in the race.

Trump 2024

Biden's are just making self flagellation great again.

~End of comment~

[Parkbandit]

Why yes, Trump did argue for total immunity and for the Supreme Court to order the DOJ to drop all charges, at least you got that right. Where he and the Supreme Court disagreed was a President has no blanket immunity as it applies to unofficial acts. See President Nixon.

Try and be less wrong and more fact oriented.

He didn't.

We went over this previously.

I even gave you an example of the two different things that anyone with an IQ over 12 could easily comprehend.

Yet.. here you are.. still saying "OMG HE WANTED TOTAL IMMUNITY FOR EVERTHING EVER!"

Because you are a fucking retard.

[Methais]

Searn has been coping so much harder than normal since the debate.

[Parkbandit]

Searn has been coping so much harder than normal since the debate.

My crazy liberal neighbor came over last night so I can help her with her camera system on her phone setup.. I think I had MSNBC still on and they were hand wringing about how badly Biden did.. my neighbor said "Can you turn that channel or turn it down.. it's giving me a headache!" I told her that it's my house, I'm watching it.. so suck it up... then I said "I have a MAGA shirt you can have if you want to switch sides"

She's so funny and I love her.. but when it comes to politics, she's only 10 times smarter than sErAn.. which is still borderline mentally disabled in my opinion.

She said she wishes they would dump Biden and let Kamala take over. Like wut? Is THAT the best recourse you have at this point? Giggles?

[Methais]

My crazy liberal neighbor came over last night so I can help her with her camera system on her phone setup.. I think I had MSNBC still on and they were hand wringing about how badly Biden did.. my neighbor said "Can you turn that channel or turn it down.. it's giving me a headache!" I told her that it's my house, I'm watching it.. so suck it up... then I said "I have a MAGA shirt you can have if you want to switch sides"

She's so funny and I love her.. but when it comes to politics, she's only 10 times smarter than sErAn.. which is still borderline mentally disabled in my opinion.

She said she wishes they would dump Biden and let Kamala take over. Like wut? Is THAT the best recourse you have at this point? Giggles?

If they ran Kamala, Seran would post every day about how she was the greatest VP of all time.

[Suppressed Poet]

If they ran Kamala, Seran would post every day about how she was the greatest VP of all time.

As the first black female VP it’s historic. That’s historically important because she made history, and history is historical.

[Parkbandit]

If they ran Kamala, Seran would post every day about how she was the greatest VP of all time.

And if you say anything bad about her.. you are a racist and a misogynist!

[Tgo01]

Seran butthurt in game again:

[Private]-GSIV:Bafomet: "are you really racist?"
[Private]-GSIV:Bafomet: "that's shit, man"

[Neveragain]

Seran butthurt in game again:

[Private]-GSIV:Bafomet: "are you really racist?"
[Private]-GSIV:Bafomet: "that's shit, man"

I see Gemstone is still populated with the mentally ill.