Exhausting Court Proceedings on the Horizon

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The judge was very kind to give Trump time to compose his stump speech for the trial. He'll definitely spend some serious thought on how best to attack all involved while limping around on the golf course.

I love the free airtime from all the Trump hating "journalists". Trump is the master of unpaid media. Thank you, TDS sufferers, for getting him re-elected.

[Seran]

I love the free airtime from all the Trump hating "journalists". Trump is the master of unpaid media. Thank you, TDS sufferers, for getting him re-elected.

Also the master of being indicted and failing to get re-elected, so there's that too.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Also the master of being indicted and failing to get re-elected, so there's that too.

I mean, if you count dead people and illegals, sure.

[Alfster]

I mean, if you count dead people and illegals, sure.Or you know. The legitimate legal count.

Yelling that everyone else has TDS, but look in the mirror. Haha.

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[ClydeR]

While in New York for his sexual assault defamation trial, Trump waved to a cameras. A doctor on the platform formerly known as Twitter says it looks like Trump could have Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. With all the traveling he does for campaigning, he probably got bit by a tick. It surely has nothing to do with the multiple sexual assault allegations against him.



https://i.imgur.com/YOjydd9.png
https://twitter.com/bone00afide/status/1747757676551962722

[Seran]

Syphilis makes sense given his neurological conditions too.

[Parkbandit]

Syphilis makes sense given his neurological conditions too.

Only the dumbest people on the planet would fall for it.. YET AGAIN!

I already told you what it was, retard.

Golfing blisters. Everyone who plays golf gets them from time to time.

Stop being the dumbest person in every room that falls for the latest media gotcha on Trump.

[Methais]

I don't understand that reference.

That's because you're stupid.

[Methais]

Also the master of being indicted and failing to get re-elected, so there's that too.

^ This is almost Ashliana level cringe.

[ClydeR]

Golfing blisters.

That could be it! Trump must be debilitatingly distracted by worry about going to jail, if he is allowing his highly highly practiced golf technique to suffer so.

[Parkbandit]

That could be it! Trump must be debilitatingly distracted by worry about going to jail, if he is allowing his highly highly practiced golf technique to suffer so.

Everyone gets golfing blisters from time to time.

Stop being such a fucking pussy.

[Seran]

That could be it! Trump must be debilitatingly distracted by worry about going to jail, if he is allowing his highly highly practiced golf technique to suffer so.

He must be a real pro, able to get blisters through his golfing gloves. Or it could just be syphilis. Yeah syphilis makes more sense from Jersey guy

[Parkbandit]

He must be a real pro, able to get blisters through his golfing gloves. Or it could just be syphilis. Yeah syphilis makes more sense from Jersey guy

Stop being the dumbest person in every thread.

Trump golfs right handed, so his golf glove would be on his left hand.

We get it: You don't know a single thing about golf or any sport or Hell.. pretty much anything.

Fucking retard.

[Methais]

Seran is coping so hard this week :rofl:

[ClydeR]

Lawyers for E. Jean Carroll plan to call former Elle editor-in-chief Robbie Myers on Monday morning as their final witness, after which Trump’s attorneys plan to call Trump to the stand, followed by Carol Martin, a former television newswoman with whom Carroll confided about Trump’s alleged assault.

More... (https://1310kfka.com/abc-news/u-s-news/01/e-jean-carroll-defamation-case-trump-expected-to-attend-trial-possibly-testify-monday/)


How many times before has Trump said he plans to testify at his trials, just to chicken out at the last minute?

[Suppressed Poet]

How many times before has Trump said he plans to testify at his trials, just to chicken out at the last minute?

How many times have you said “things are really heating up now!” regarding Trump, only to be duped when absolutely nothing happens.

[Seran]

How many times before has Trump said he plans to testify at his trials, just to chicken out at the last minute?

As many times as it takes for him to successfully land the false claim he's being forced to testify against himself in violation of the Constitution and somehow blame Democrats for his own decisions.

[~Rocktar~]

As many times as it takes for him to successfully land the false claim he's being forced to testify against himself in violation of the Constitution and somehow blame Democrats for his own decisions.

How many Jews have you advocated to be killed, raped and/or dismembered this week?

[Parkbandit]

How many times have you said “things are really heating up now!” regarding Trump, only to be duped when absolutely nothing happens.


As many times as it takes

...

[ClydeR]

Trump's lawyer appeared in court today without a mask to tell the judge that she had dinner with her parents and then they tested positive for COVID and she has fever. If you needed a lawyer, would you rely on a recommendation from Trump?

[Parkbandit]

Trump's lawyer appeared in court today without a mask to tell the judge that she had dinner with her parents and then they tested positive for COVID and she has fever. If you needed a lawyer, would you rely on a recommendation from Trump?

WITHOUT A MASK!?

Are you going to be ok, Cupcake?

[Seran]

Trump's lawyer appeared in court today without a mask to tell the judge that she had dinner with her parents and then they tested positive for COVID and she has fever. If you needed a lawyer, would you rely on a recommendation from Trump?

What an unexpected attempt at getting a continuance. I'm sure the judge immediately invited her to appear by video.

[ClydeR]

WITHOUT A MASK!?

Are you going to be ok, Cupcake?


I'm okay. Thanks for asking. But I'm worried about Trump, who was seen exchanging a whispered conversation with his ill attorney. Why would anybody engage in close conversations like that with someone he knows carries a COVID risk? Even though I think Trump will be a disastrous nominee for Republicans, I don't want him to be sick.

[Parkbandit]

I'm okay. Thanks for asking. But I'm worried about Trump, who was seen exchanging a whispered conversation with his ill attorney. Why would anybody engage in close conversations like that with someone he knows carries a COVID risk? Even though I think Trump will be a disastrous nominee for Republicans, I don't want him to be sick.

I'm sure you have your vaccine and the 6-7 boosters you are supposed to have by now.

Why are you so worried about Covid if you have all your up to date shots?

[Neveragain]

I'm sure you have your vaccine and the 6-7 boosters you are supposed to have by now.

Why are you so worried about Covid if you have all your up to date shots?

I have gotten 47 boosters and wear 5 masks, it's why I'm not dead.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'm okay. Thanks for asking. But I'm worried about Trump, who was seen exchanging a whispered conversation with his ill attorney. Why would anybody engage in close conversations like that with someone he knows carries a COVID risk? Even though I think Trump will be a disastrous nominee for Republicans, I don't want him to be sick.

I’m sure Trump appreciates and values your concern…

[Methais]

According to Latrin's mom, ClydeR wears a mask over his butthole.

And nothing else.

[Neveragain]

According to Latrin's mom, ClydeR wears a mask over his butthole.

And nothing else.

Latrins immune system has been so protected that he would die from a summer cold.

[Alfster]

What an unexpected attempt at getting a continuance. I'm sure the judge immediately invited her to appear by video.You know it's freely available what actually happened even at the time of your posting.

Ignorance is strong in you.

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[ClydeR]

What an unexpected attempt at getting a continuance. I'm sure the judge immediately invited her to appear by video.



Donald Trump’s attorney, Alina Habba, was spotted rubbing elbows with Republicans in New Hampshire on Tuesday, just the day after asking for a delay in the ex-president’s defamation trial because she was feeling under the weather.

More... (https://news.yahoo.com/alina-habba-spotted-trump-victory-200921344.html)


A Trump supporter at the party posted a photo of Habba. He was promptly kicked out of the party.

[ClydeR]

Closing arguments from Carroll's attorney..


Trump believes that “He gets to lie. He gets to threaten. He gets to ignore a jury verdict. He gets to defy the law and the rules of this courtroom," Crowley said. "You saw how he behaved through this trial. Rules don’t apply to Donald Trump."

“Ladies and gentleman, this isn’t a campaign rally. It’s not a press event. It’s a court of law and Miss Carroll’s life,” Crowley said. “Donald Trump sexually assaulted her. He defamed her. He is not the victim.”

More... (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-trial-e-jean-carroll-01-26-24/index.html)


The above closing arguments were made after Trump returned to the courtroom after storming out during an earlier part of the closing arguments. Trump's loud talking during proceedings, entering and exiting during the trial, and generally disrespectful behavior are not likely to win him any approval from the jury.

[Methais]

I wish Trump would dildo me relentlessly.

We know, ClydeRetard.

[Seran]

A Trump supporter at the party posted a photo of Habba. He was promptly kicked out of the party.

Completely unsurprised. Really shows how shitty the representation is when your delay tactics are so blatantly transparent

[Seran]

83.3 million dollar judgment payable by Trump to E. Jean Carroll. <3

[beldannon5]

I hear that lady is batshit crazy. Not saying she is because I don't have 83m. Just saying I heard jt

[Parkbandit]

83.3 million dollar judgment payable by Trump to E. Jean Carroll. <3

He will still have more money than you will ever have.

[ClydeR]

I hear that lady is batshit crazy. Not saying she is because I don't have 83m. Just saying I heard jt


That doesn't make it okay to sexually assault her.

[beldannon5]

That doesn't make it okay to sexually assault her.

I am not so sure it happened(whther or not the case was judged that way in the past) if it did she deserved the money she got years ago. As for defamation 83m that's a money hungry person taking advantage because some people are mean on the big internet thing.

[Alfster]

Amazing how you guys are okay with him being proven in court to have sexually assaulted herm

Then, he continues to lie about it...has a second trial where all he does is whine and cry on social media about how it's so unfair.

This is Republicans alpha male. A fucking Karen who sexually assaulted woman.

This is the party of "family values".


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[ClydeR]

Here is what the first jury heard when they found that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll..

Carroll testified that it happened.


Two people she told at the time of the assault testified about what she told them.


What Carroll testified and what the witnesses testified matched the Access Hollywood tape shown to the jury. Carroll did not know about the Access Hollywood tape at the time when Carroll described the incident to the two witnesses.


In the Access Hollywood tape, Trump confessed to doing with his hands what Carroll told the witnesses he had done to her years earlier.


Despite having ample opportunity to do so, Trump never denied any of it in the trial. His denials were made out of court, which the jury was supposed to ignore in reaching their decision. The jury's decision was based on testimony given in court, under oath, and subject to cross examination.

In my opinion, voters in the general election will not elect Trump because of the two jury verdicts in the Carroll cases. Republicans are making a yuge mistake in rushing to nominate him.

[Parkbandit]

Amazing how you guys are okay with him being proven in court to have sexually assaulted herm

Then, he continues to lie about it...has a second trial where all he does is whine and cry on social media about how it's so unfair.

This is Republicans alpha male. A fucking Karen who sexually assaulted woman.

This is the party of "family values".


It was a he said/she said in New York. Jury believed her because they hate him.

He will appeal it.

[Suppressed Poet]

Here is what the first jury heard when they found that Trump sexually assaulted Carroll..

Carroll testified that it happened.


Two people she told at the time of the assault testified about what she told them.


What Carroll testified and what the witnesses testified matched the Access Hollywood tape shown to the jury. Carroll did not know about the Access Hollywood tape at the time when Carroll described the incident to the two witnesses.


In the Access Hollywood tape, Trump confessed to doing with his hands what Carroll told the witnesses he had done to her years earlier.


Despite having ample opportunity to do so, Trump never denied any of it in the trial. His denials were made out of court, which the jury was supposed to ignore in reaching their decision. The jury's decision was based on testimony given in court, under oath, and subject to cross examination.

In my opinion, voters in the general election will not elect Trump because of the two jury verdicts in the Carroll cases. Republicans are making a yuge mistake in rushing to nominate him.

Nobody gives a shit about this case except people like you that hate Trump. It won’t dissuade anyone to vote for Trump that wasn’t already planning to or even on the fence about it. She is a money grubbing whore being encouraged by Trump’s political opponents, and got a payday.

https://media.tenor.com/AkjjDfqlGcoAAAAM/and-thats-the-bottom-line-because-i-said-so.gif

[~Rocktar~]

It was a he said/she said in New York. Jury believed her because they hate him.

He will appeal it.

Yeah, the next 6-10 years will be appeals and continuances and so on and she won't see much of anything unless there is a settlement that will have an NDA and if the NDA is broken or anything is leaked, it will be void and she gets nothing.

[ClydeR]

It was a he said/she said in New York. Jury believed her because they hate him.

He will appeal it.

There was no "he said." Despite ample opportunity to do so, Trump did not deny the accusations. The jury heard from Carroll, from her two contemporaneous witnesses and from the leaked videotape in which Trump bragged about having done exactly what she accused him of. Any jury anywhere would have reached the same result.

[Parkbandit]

There was no "he said." Despite ample opportunity to do so, Trump did not deny the accusations. The jury heard from Carroll, from her two contemporaneous witnesses and from the leaked videotape in which Trump bragged about having done exactly what she accused him of. Any jury anywhere would have reached the same result.

Bullshit. New York temporarily allowed the statute of limitations to be forgotten just so they could get this to court.

This is nothing but political and everyone except you, Seran and Alfster knows it.

3 peas in a pod of stupidity.

Wallow in it.

[Suppressed Poet]

There was no "he said." Despite ample opportunity to do so, Trump did not deny the accusations. The jury heard from Carroll, from her two contemporaneous witnesses and from the leaked videotape in which Trump bragged about having done exactly what she accused him of. Any jury anywhere would have reached the same result.

Try that in a small town.

[SHAFT]

Amazing how you guys are okay with him being proven in court to have sexually assaulted herm

Then, he continues to lie about it...has a second trial where all he does is whine and cry on social media about how it's so unfair.

This is Republicans alpha male. A fucking Karen who sexually assaulted woman.

This is the party of "family values".


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Obama broke their brains.

[~Rocktar~]

Obama broke their brains.

Enter player 3

You fucks don't give a shit about what people do unless you think you can use it as a way to tamper with elections or prevent SCOTUS appointments.

Enter the following into evidence:

https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/422841766_391973520180887_141774063620935829_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=111&cb=99be929b-b574a898&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=c42490&_nc_ohc=FXc6avj2HXkAX_jgrXm&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-2.xx&oh=00_AfDlfQ8RwYraHUYwI3hf_YsYTw4Rkf_fz2t7QyVLR0GG cA&oe=65BC2B54

[Parkbandit]

Obama broke their brains.

If you had one previously, I would say Trump broke yours.

But there is zero evidence of you having a brain to begin with.

[ClydeR]

Posting in this thread only because the hand lesions were previously discussed here..


Former President Donald Trump joked on Wednesday afternoon about a recent photo showing red spots on his hand, telling a Fox News correspondent, "Maybe it's AI."

Trump sounded confused when Mark Meredith asked, "How's your hands?" The former president held up both to show that they were clean. Trump fielded questions from the press after meeting with Teamsters union leaders and members in Washington, D.C.

More... (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-breaks-silence-red-spotted-hand-rumors-ai-washington-1865841)


Sounds suspicious. How could he not remember that?

[ClydeR]

“Do you plan to try to use campaign funds or PAC money to try to pay some of the penalties in the New York defamation and fraud cases?” a reporter asked.

After Trump said he didn’t understand, the reporter said again, “Are you thinking of potentially trying to use campaign money to pay some of those penalties you incurred?”

“What penalties?” Trump replied, seemingly unaware that a New York jury didn’t order him to pay writer E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million just last week.

“In the New York fraud case and the defamation case,” the reporter said again.

Trump’s response was especially detached from reality.

“I didn’t do anything wrong. I mean, that’s been proven as far as I’m concerned. And actually, we won in the Court of Appeals. You probably saw that. That case has been largely won in the Court of Appeals,” he insisted, though nothing like that has happened in either case.

More... (https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-falsely-suggests-he-won-new-york-court-battle)


Trump recently called Haley "delusional."

[Parkbandit]

the daily beast..... I would feel bad for you, but at this point.. it's all you have.

Wallow in it.

[Seran]

Trump recently called Haley "delusional."

Considering Trump has been fundraising and paying his family for campaigning and his legal bills for roughly a year and a half, I fully expect the FEC to get involved and potentially the DOJ regarding misappropriation of campaign funds. Remember Trump has been arguing for sometime he deserves immunity as a political candidate, goes in hand that funds he raises for his candidacy would be subject to full FEC filing disclosures, limits, and federal law.

[Methais]

the daily beast..... I would feel bad for you, but at this point.. it's all you have.

Wallow in it.

Retards like ClydeR and Seran when any article from any non-fringe left source is posted: OMG FAUX NEWS

Also retards like ClydeR and Seran: tHe DaIlY bEa'St I's a LeGiTiMaTe TrU'sTwOrThY aNd UnBiA'sEd NeW's SoUrCe!i!i!i!i!I!I!I!i! just before shitting their pants uncontrollably.

[Parkbandit]

Considering Trump has been fundraising and paying his family for campaigning and his legal bills for roughly a year and a half, I fully expect the FEC to get involved and potentially the DOJ regarding misappropriation of campaign funds. Remember Trump has been arguing for sometime he deserves immunity as a political candidate, goes in hand that funds he raises for his candidacy would be subject to full FEC filing disclosures, limits, and federal law.

Oh, I expect the Ruling Class to go on full offensive against Trump being elected again and doing anything and everything they can to do it because the ends justify the means with that crowd.

Just look what they've put him through already... and he's still standing.

[Anebriated]

Oh, I expect the Ruling Class to go on full offensive against Trump being elected again and doing anything and everything they can to do it because the ends justify the means with that crowd.

Just look what they've put him through already... and he's still standing.

No you dont understand. They are finally going to pin him down because he misused campaign funds! they finally got him this time!

[Parkbandit]

No you dont understand. They are finally going to pin him down because he misused campaign funds! they finally got him this time!

THI'S I'S IT!!!!!! THI'S TIME ITS' GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!-s'ErAn

[ClydeR]

No you dont understand. They are finally going to pin him down because he misused campaign funds! they finally got him this time!

As long as Trump disclosed it in advance, then I don't see the problem. If you want your money going to lawyers to defend someone in rape cases, porn star payoff cases, insurrection cases and concealing of classified documents cases, then it's your money. You worked hard for it. Pick your favored causes. Unless, of course, you inherited it, in which case I'm sure your parents and grandparents would be proud of how you chose to spend the product of their hard work.

[Suppressed Poet]

As long as Trump disclosed it in advance, then I don't see the problem. If you want your money going to lawyers to defend someone in rape cases, porn star payoff cases, insurrection cases and concealing of classified documents cases, then it's your money. You worked hard for it. Pick your favored causes. Unless, of course, you inherited it, in which case I'm sure your parents and grandparents would be proud of how you chose to spend the product of their hard work.

You sound rather jaded. Did you donate to the Clinton Foundation back in the day believing that money was going to help Haiti? :rofl:

[ClydeR]

You sound rather jaded. Did you donate to the Clinton Foundation back in the day believing that money was going to help Haiti? :rofl:

I'm smart enough not to donate to any politician. There is no honest politician. Not even George Washington. Fortunately, most of them are several levels of virtue above rapist and whoremonger.

[ClydeR]

The verdict in Donald Trump’s $370m fraud trial will be coming later than expected, with a decision expected in early to mid-February, a New York court spokesperson said on Thursday.

The New York judge Arthur Engoron had initially said he would aim to deliver a verdict on the potential $370m fine by 31 January. “I will do my best” to meet the deadline, he said on 11 January after the trial’s closing arguments.

More... (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/01/trump-fraud-trial-verdict-delayed)


Earlier this week, the court removed the online docket entries for this case from the trial court's website to the statewide court website (https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=FX5LeuzFvFRaeD3C6Ob/SA==&PageNum=23&narrow=), probably because people were refreshing their browsers every 30 seconds.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'm smart enough not to donate to any politician. There is no honest politician. Not even George Washington. Fortunately, most of them are several levels of virtue above rapist and whoremonger.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but people don’t donate money to campaign funds because of a politician’s virtues & good behavior.

[ClydeR]

Earlier this week, the court removed the online docket entries for this case from the trial court's website to the statewide court website (https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=FX5LeuzFvFRaeD3C6Ob/SA==&PageNum=23&narrow=), probably because people were refreshing their browsers every 30 seconds.


Possibly coincidentally to the delay of the fraud trial ruling..


Allen H. Weisselberg, a longtime lieutenant to Donald J. Trump, is negotiating a deal with Manhattan prosecutors that would require him to plead guilty to perjury, people with knowledge of the matter said.

As part of the potential agreement with the Manhattan district attorney's office, Mr. Weisselberg would have to admit that he lied on the witness stand in Mr. Trump's recent civil fraud trial, the people said.

More... (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/01/nyregion/weisselberg-perjury-trump-fraud.html)


To be clear the article says Weisselberg would plead guilty to lying during the fraud trial for which we're still waiting on the ruling.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I'm smart enough not to donate to any politician. There is no honest politician. Not even George Washington. Fortunately, most of them are several levels of virtue above rapist and whoremonger.

You talking about Clinton or Biden?

[Methais]

I'm smart enough not to donate to any politician. There is no honest politician. Not even George Washington. Fortunately, most of them are several levels of virtue above rapist and whoremonger.

Remember when your gimmick used to be pretending to be a republican like some cheap ripoff wannabe Colbert, but somehow managing to be even less funny and more cringe, and then Trump broke your mind and you've been in full TDS butthurt mode ever since?

Good times.

[ClydeR]

I haven't changed.
I am big. It's the pictures that got small.

[Methais]

I haven't changed. My underwear, that is.
I am big butthurt.

This is correct.

[Seran]

Pretty laughable that one of the Georgia elections conspiracy defendants is attempting to have his case dismissed due to two consenting adults having a personal relationship. Perhaps the dumb ass thinks that is what spurred him to committing multiple felonies, but that's not how things work in real life.

[Methais]

Pretty laughable that one of the Georgia elections conspiracy defendants is attempting to have his case dismissed due to two consenting adults having a personal relationship. Perhaps the dumb ass thinks that is what spurred him to committing multiple felonies, but that's not how things work in real life.

Only you could possibly be this dumb and gullible.

But we get it, Fani's in the process of getting pwned, and you're very upset over it because you're a massive gaping blue waffle.

[Parkbandit]

Pretty laughable that one of the Georgia elections conspiracy defendants is attempting to have his case dismissed due to two consenting adults having a personal relationship. Perhaps the dumb ass thinks that is what spurred him to committing multiple felonies, but that's not how things work in real life.

Please stop getting all your news from tiktok.

[Parkbandit]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/02/donald-trump-federal-trial-delayed/72448799007/

Sorry to our TDS infected losers... they are probably having a difficult time today.

Ok, not sorry.. but I really feel badly I am not sorry.

Ok, maybe I don't feel that badly.

Get fucked, retards.

[Methais]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/02/donald-trump-federal-trial-delayed/72448799007/

Sorry to our TDS infected losers... they are probably having a difficult time today.

Ok, not sorry.. but I really feel badly I am not sorry.

Ok, maybe I don't feel that badly.

Get fucked, retards.



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In before this.

[Seran]

They confirmed what anyone who has read the Constitution understands: there is no criminal immunity imparted to the President, much less for a former President who is demented enough to think trying to stage a coup was part of his duties of office. Good start to the day.


“For the purpose of this criminal case, former President Trump has become citizen Trump, with all of the defenses of any other criminal defendant. But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution,” the court wrote.

[Methais]

They confirmed what anyone who has read the Constitution understands: there is no criminal immunity imparted to the President, much less for a former President who is demented enough to think trying to stage a coup was part of his duties of office. Good start to the day.

Most people start the day with a shower.

[Suppressed Poet]

They confirmed what anyone who has read the Constitution understands: there is no criminal immunity imparted to the President, much less for a former President who is demented enough to think trying to stage a coup was part of his duties of office. Good start to the day.

Since this came from the federal appeals court & not SCOTUS, it means absolutely dick. The real litigation begins Thursday. But hey, if that’s what you call a good start to your day keep celebrating the little victories…

[Methais]

Since this came from the federal appeals court & not SCOTUS, it means absolutely dick. The real litigation begins Thursday. But hey, if that’s what you call a good start to your day keep celebrating the little victories…

WE REALLY GOT HIM THI'S TIME GUY'S ITS SUPER DUPER REALLY HAPPENING THI'S TIME THE OTHER 8493078329423 TIME'S WERE JU'ST PRETEND BUT THI'S TIME ITS FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Parkbandit]

Most people start the day with a shower.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/UAynAquzjogAAAAC/spit-take.gif

[Seran]

Since this came from the federal appeals court & not SCOTUS, it means absolutely dick. The real litigation begins Thursday. But hey, if that’s what you call a good start to your day keep celebrating the little victories…

That's nice that you think that, but bear in mind the Supreme Court only takes a fraction of cases which parties file requests for reconsideration on. So while you may think that court orders have no force and effect because the Supreme Court exists, I'll remind you that you're wrong and a court order is still a legal judgment until/unless it is overturned.

[Solkern]

Since this came from the federal appeals court & not SCOTUS, it means absolutely dick. The real litigation begins Thursday. But hey, if that’s what you call a good start to your day keep celebrating the little victories…

And how would you feel if they decline to even take it?

[Suppressed Poet]

And how would you feel if they decline to even take it?

Sure they could. That would be unfortunate, but I’d get over it. They will take the case though.

Speaking of SCOTUS, how do you feel about Colorado & the 14th Amendment case?

[Seran]

Seems SP is getting ahead of herself a second time. First assuming an appeals court judgment didn't matter because a nonexistent Supreme Court ruling overturning it, now assuming Trump being on the ballot in Colorado is a decided issue after only opening remarks. Lol.

[Parkbandit]

Seems SP is getting ahead of herself a second time. First assuming an appeals court judgment didn't matter because a nonexistent Supreme Court ruling overturning it, now assuming Trump being on the ballot in Colorado is a decided issue after only opening remarks. Lol.

Care to wager your next EBT card load?

[Suppressed Poet]

Seems SP is getting ahead of herself a second time. First assuming an appeals court judgment didn't matter because a nonexistent Supreme Court ruling overturning it, now assuming Trump being on the ballot in Colorado is a decided issue after only opening remarks. Lol.

Did you just intentionally misgender me Seran? I thought we were friends?? :rofl:

SCOTUS could decide not to take the case on Presidential immunity. My opinion is they will.

You have to be the dumbest motherfucker to ever post on the PC to believe SCOTUS won’t be overturning the 14th Amendment case after seeing what happened today. Oh wait…

[Solkern]

Sure they could. That would be unfortunate, but I’d get over it. They will take the case though.

Speaking of SCOTUS, how do you feel about Colorado & the 14th Amendment case?


I just looked at the opening questions regarding it. It looks like even the liberal judges don’t agree with it.

I haven’t really been following it, as we’ve been in holiday for 2 months in Thailand kind of detoxing from everything.

[Neveragain]

in holiday for 2 months in Thailand kind of detoxing from everything.

My god, you are the epitome of the white liberal voter.

[Seran]

I just looked at the opening questions regarding it. It looks like even the liberal judges don’t agree with it.

I haven’t really been following it, as we’ve been in holiday for 2 months in Thailand kind of detoxing from everything.

I suspect they'll make a ruling on whether the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing as prior Supreme Court rulings have determined, but whether the Conservatives will decide that is an other decided issue to overturn is anyone's guess.

[Suppressed Poet]

I suspect they'll make a ruling on whether the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing as prior Supreme Court rulings have determined, but whether the Conservatives will decide that is an other decided issue to overturn is anyone's guess.

https://y.yarn.co/9860e882-c4d7-4e26-88e5-b6baed14a7cd_text.gif

[Parkbandit]

I suspect they'll make a ruling on whether the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing as prior Supreme Court rulings have determined, but whether the Conservatives will decide that is an other decided issue to overturn is anyone's guess.

My offer of a wager still stands.

[Methais]

I suspect they'll make a ruling on whether the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing as prior Supreme Court rulings have determined, but whether the Conservatives will decide that is an other decided issue to overturn is anyone's guess.

It's gonna be 8-1 at worst, possibly 9-0. Who will you blame then?


My offer of a wager still stands.

As if Seran would make good on his bet, and that's ignoring the part where he has nothing to bet unless EBT is on the table.

[Methais]

https://y.yarn.co/9860e882-c4d7-4e26-88e5-b6baed14a7cd_text.gif

This is what happens when Seran tries to use his own words instead of repeating verbatim what someone else told him to think.

[Seran]

I suspect they'll make a ruling on whether the Fourteenth Amendment is self-executing as prior Supreme Court rulings have determined, but whether the Conservatives will decide that is an other decided issue to overturn is anyone's guess.
https://y.yarn.co/9860e882-c4d7-4e26-88e5-b6baed14a7cd_text.gif

Predictable.


https://youtu.be/FK4RHzNHZXY?si=vC7cyjkbohqUYwqe

[Methais]

Predictable.


https://youtu.be/FK4RHzNHZXY?si=vC7cyjkbohqUYwqe

You might have a point if 100% of your posts didn't read like someone wiped their ass with a keyboard and then clicked the post button.

[ClydeR]

I listened to the whole thing. What most surprised me is that a majority seemed to believe the determination should be made after the election, as Trump argued, and not before, based on the reasoning that the Constitution specifically gives Congress the power by a 2/3rds vote to forgive an insurrectionist and make him eligible, and you would need to wait until the moment of counting votes on January 6 to see if Congress exercises that power. Only then could you know if the candidate is eligible at the time the votes are counted. I think that is poor -- not to mention highly impractical -- reasoning, but they seemed to buy it.

Remember that it will be the newly elected and newly sworn Congress that will count the votes on January 6, or whatever day it falls on in 2025.

I have to believe the court will not ultimately decide that way.


No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

[Methais]

I listened to the whole thing. What most surprised me is that a majority seemed to believe the determination should be made after the election, as Trump argued, and not before, based on the reasoning that the Constitution specifically gives Congress the power by a 2/3rds vote to forgive an insurrectionist and make him eligible, and you would need to wait until the moment of counting votes on January 6 to see if Congress exercises that power. Only then could you know if the candidate is eligible at the time the votes are counted. I think that is poor -- not to mention highly impractical -- reasoning, but they seemed to buy it.

Remember that it will be the newly elected and newly sworn Congress that will count the votes on January 6, or whatever day it falls on in 2025.

I have to believe the court will not ultimately decide that way.

Trump wouldn't be eligible for that regardless.

If you're confused as to why, which there's a 100% chance you are, then feel free to tell me when Trump was convicted of, or even charged with, insurrection, and we'll go from there.

[ClydeR]

Trump wouldn't be eligible for that regardless.

If you're confused as to why, which there's a 100% chance you are, then feel free to tell me when Trump was convicted of, or even charged with, insurrection, and we'll go from there.

The Colorado Supreme Court concluded that he engaged in insurrection. The more important point is that Congress, by a majority vote, might agree on January 6, 2025.

I did not get the impression that any of the judges believed a criminal conviction was necessary to disqualify a candidate. The drafters of the 14th Amendment did not intend for a criminal conviction to be necessary to disqualify a candidate. That is clear.

[Parkbandit]

I think that is poor -- not to mention highly impractical -- reasoning, but they seemed to buy it.

I'm sure each and every Justice on the Supreme Court is very distraught that you, an Internet coward, is unhappy with their legal reasoning.

[Parkbandit]

The Colorado Supreme Court concluded that he engaged in insurrection. The more important point is that Congress, by a majority vote, might agree on January 6, 2025.

I did not get the impression that any of the judges believed a criminal conviction was necessary to disqualify a candidate. The drafters of the 14th Amendment did not intend for a criminal conviction to be necessary to disqualify a candidate. That is clear.

You didn't?

Justice Kavanaugh literally said "President Trump has not been charged with that [insurrection]"

You only hear what you want to hear... maybe take a good look at the entire thing next time.. you won't look so ignorant and stupid.

I'm sure Justice Kavanaugh is not too impressed with your legal reasoning... oh wait, he doesn't even know you exist.

[ClydeR]

You didn't?

Justice Kavanaugh literally said "President Trump has not been charged with that [insurrection]"

You only hear what you want to hear... maybe take a good look at the entire thing next time.. you won't look so ignorant and stupid.

I'm sure Justice Kavanaugh is not too impressed with your legal reasoning... oh wait, he doesn't even know you exist.


I heard it and reread it before I posted. I believe Kavanaugh concluded that criminal prosecution is not necessary. And I will also point out that the exchange with Kavanaugh ended on a funny note about Trump's immunity claim. Trump, on one hand, claims he is immune from criminal prosecution for the insurrection and, on the other hand, claims he is eligible to run because he has not been convicted of insurrection.

[Methais]

The Colorado Supreme Court concluded that he engaged in insurrection. The more important point is that Congress, by a majority vote, might agree on January 6, 2025.

I did not get the impression that any of the judges believed a criminal conviction was necessary to disqualify a candidate. The drafters of the 14th Amendment did not intend for a criminal conviction to be necessary to disqualify a candidate. That is clear.

So in other words, "No, Trump has not been convicted of or even charged with insurrection." right? Correct me if I'm wrong, and be specific as to what makes it incorrect.

I know you're super mad that SCOTUS is going to shit all over this case 8-1 or 9-0 and cause you and Seran even more butthurt, but just try to stop being a little bitch for just one day, because things aren't about to get any better for you retards.


Here is actual footage of you and Seran for the forseeable future:

https://media.tenor.com/KBCX5BsM05YAAAAM/tantrum-kid.gif

[Parkbandit]

I heard it and reread it before I posted. I believe Kavanaugh concluded that criminal prosecution is not necessary. And I will also point out that the exchange with Kavanaugh ended on a funny note about Trump's immunity claim. Trump, on one hand, claims he is immune from criminal prosecution for the insurrection and, on the other hand, claims he is eligible to run because he has not been convicted of insurrection.

So you heard the question... and you are still under the impression that "I did not get the impression that any of the judges believed a criminal conviction was necessary to disqualify a candidate."

So you are just being willfully ignorant because of TDS.

Fantastic.

Judges ruling 8-1 that Trump will be on the "ballet" come November... only because Sonia is probably just as infected with TDS as you are.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Judges ruling 8-1 that Trump will be on the "ballet" come November... only because Sonia is probably just as infected with TDS as you are.

I'm hedging my bets because I don't think Sonia will have the brass to stand alone. It'll either be 7-2 (extra diversity hire lady, khajita something something), or 9-0.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

claims he is immune from criminal prosecution for the insurrection and... claims he is eligible to run because he has not been convicted of insurrection.

Both can be true.

[Suppressed Poet]

The Colorado Supreme Court concluded that he engaged in insurrection. The more important point is that Congress, by a majority vote, might agree on January 6, 2025.

I did not get the impression that any of the judges believed a criminal conviction was necessary to disqualify a candidate. The drafters of the 14th Amendment did not intend for a criminal conviction to be necessary to disqualify a candidate. That is clear.

Dude, you are nuts. Good luck with getting 2/3rds of Congress to vote that Trump is ineligible after the election…

[ClydeR]

So you heard the question... and you are still under the impression that "I did not get the impression that any of the judges believed a criminal conviction was necessary to disqualify a candidate."

You could be correct, but I don't think you can conclude that Kavanaugh agreed with a position just because he asked about it.

[ClydeR]

Dude, you are nuts. Good luck with getting 2/3rds of Congress to vote that Trump is ineligible after the election…

It only takes a majority to make him ineligible. It takes 2/3rds to make him eligible.

[ClydeR]

So in other words, "No, Trump has not been convicted of or even charged with insurrection." right? Correct me if I'm wrong, and be specific as to what makes it incorrect.

I don't have to play by your rules. I prefer not to correct you when you err, and sometimes I enjoy being nonspecific.

[Suppressed Poet]

It only takes a majority to make him ineligible. It takes 2/3rds to make him eligible.

Ahh, I see. I still think you are nuts and are talking out of your ass. We’ll see what SCOTUS has to say.

[Methais]

I enjoy being nonspecific because it allows me to twist things later on in an attempt to make myself right, but I still fail at it every time because I'm stupid as fuck and have a destroyed flaccid asshole.

This is correct.

[Parkbandit]

You could be correct, but I don't think you can conclude that Kavanaugh agreed with a position just because he asked about it.

But your conclusion was that not a single Justice cared about insurrection.

We will see how the Justices rule... if you are correct, I'll post an apology for being so wrong about everything.

I expect you to do the same.

[~Rocktar~]

I expect you to do the same.

Don't hold your breath.

[Parkbandit]

Don't hold your breath.

Oh, I know.

Never trust a coward to do the right thing.

Ever.

[ClydeR]

We will see how the Justices rule... if you are correct, I'll post an apology for being so wrong about everything.

I expect you to do the same.

Why would you apologize for making an incorrect, but reasonable, prediction? If you were polite and respectful in expressing your opinion, then there is no need to apologize. Being wrong is not a sin.

[Parkbandit]

Why would you apologize for making an incorrect, but reasonable, prediction? If you were polite and respectful in expressing your opinion, then there is no need to apologize.

Fuck you, loser.


Being wrong is not a sin.

Only losers believe that... and it's because you are more wrong than right.

[~Rocktar~]

Being wrong is not a sin.

No, it isn't, however you, Seran and some others participate like it's your national sport.

[ClydeR]

Are you exhausted yet?


A New York judge denied former President Donald Trump's request to dismiss criminal charges related to a "hush money" payment and said his trial would proceed as scheduled on March 25, delivering a blow to Trump's efforts to delay what would be the first trial of any former president in U.S. history.

More... (https://news.yahoo.com/trump-expected-appear-hearing-manhattan-110006034.html)



What is Trump accused of?

Trump is accused of participating in a scheme to falsify records to hide a series of payments to his former "fixer" and lawyer Michael Cohen. The payments, prosecutors allege, were reimbursements for a hush money payment to Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford. She has alleged she had an affair with Trump, and agreed to keep quiet in exchange for $130,000 shortly before the 2016 election.

Trump's lawyers have denied the payments to Cohen were part of a cover-up, saying Trump was reimbursing the former lawyer for legal expenses.

[Suppressed Poet]

Are you exhausted yet?

It is a shame Trump had to be in New York and was unable to attend the Fanni Willis hearing in Georgia today.

I’m not exhausted and find all of this to be mildly entertaining. I’m not watching the trials daily but just catching the updates. Politics aside, the OJ Simpson trials ain’t got shit on the drama that is the Trump trials.

[Seran]

It is a shame Trump had to be in New York and was unable to attend the Fanni Willis hearing in Georgia today.

I’m not exhausted and find all of this to be mildly entertaining. I’m not watching the trials daily but just catching the updates. Politics aside, the OJ Simpson trials ain’t got shit on the drama that is the Trump trials.

tldr; Quantity over Quality is your preference.

[Methais]

tldr; Quantity over Quality is your preference.

Sit down welfare boy.

[Suppressed Poet]

tldr; Quantity over Quality is your preference.

Yep. Just like your mom.

[Parkbandit]

Are you exhausted yet?

Clutch the pearls, simpleton.

I'm surprised you came back so soon after being soundly shut down in the other attention whore thread you made.

Good to know you don't let a simple thing like self respect get in your way of being a textbook case of histrionic personality disorder.

[Methais]

Clutch the pearls, simpleton.

I'm surprised you came back so soon after being soundly shut down in the other attention whore thread you made.

Good to know you don't let a simple thing like self respect get in your way of being a textbook case of histrionic personality disorder.

I still think he's Latrin. Or at least one of Latrin's other personalities.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Are you exhausted yet?

Only you go full retard.

[Seran]

Yep. Just like your mom.

She did have an awful lot of children for a Christian woman..

[Parkbandit]

She did have an awful lot of children for a Christian woman..

Any of them a useful member of society with an IQ above 12?

[Parkbandit]

I still think he's Latrin. Or at least one of Latrin's other personalities.

I used to believe that.. then it was Fallen and then I don't even remember.

He's a complete loser though.. so does it really matter? 20+ years of pretending to be someone else.. because he was way too sensitive to be himself.

[~Rocktar~]

Any of them a useful member of society with an IQ above 12?

Did any of them live?

[Suppressed Poet]

I guess it really must be exhausting prosecuting Trump, seeing how Fani Willis & Nathan Wade felt the need to take several exotic fuck festival vacations over a 5 month period of time.

[Seran]

If you say so.

[Parkbandit]

I guess it really must be exhausting prosecuting Trump, seeing how Fani Willis & Nathan Wade felt the need to take several exotic fuck festival vacations over a 5 month period of time.

I hope today is as entertaining as yesterday.

[ClydeR]

Here is the summary from the first page of the decision released today in the New York fraud trial -- not the criminal fraud trial about the porn star hush money, but the civil trial about financial statements..


Donald Trump and entities he controls own many valuable properties, including office buildings, hotels, and golf courses. Acquiring and developing such properties required huge amounts of cash. Accordingly, the entities borrowed from banks and other lenders. The lenders required personal guarantees from Donald Trump, which were based on statements of financial condition compiled by accountants that Donald Trump engaged. The accountants created these "compilations" based on data submitted by the Trump entities. In order to borrow more and at lower rates, defendants submitted blatantly false financial data to the accountants, resulting in fraudulent financial statements. When confronted at trial with the statements, defendants' fact and expert witnesses simply denied reality, and defendants failed to accept responsibility or to impose internal controls to prevent future recurrences. As detailed herein, this Court now finds defendants liable, continues the appointment of an Independent Monitor, orders the installation of an Independent Director of Compliance, and limits defendants' right to conduct business in New York for a few years.

I do not have a link to view it online. You can download it from the court's website at this link.. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=CJKA2EOIiTRatUAYz6FyeA==

[ClydeR]

Here is a link for reading it online..

https://www.scribd.com/document/706231478/452564-2022-People-of-the-State-of-v-People-of-the-State-of-Decision-After-Trial-1688#1fullscreen=1

[Methais]

Here is the summary from the first page of the decision released today in the New York fraud trial -- not the criminal fraud trial about the porn star hush money, but the civil trial about financial statements..



I do not have a link to view it online. You can download it from the court's website at this link.. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=CJKA2EOIiTRatUAYz6FyeA==

Do you think Mar-a-lago is only worth $18 million dollars? Asking for Seran's dad who's still waiting in line at the store to get some Newports.

[Seran]

Here is the summary from the first page of the decision released today in the New York fraud trial -- not the criminal fraud trial about the porn star hush money, but the civil trial about financial statements..

I do not have a link to view it online. You can download it from the court's website at this link.. https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=CJKA2EOIiTRatUAYz6FyeA==

Bahaha. Won't be using campaign cash to be paying off this one! $325M in total fines, the highlight totals below are the best. Ms Habba will surely be force fed sand tonight.

"Of the three theories advanced by plaintiff, the first is by far the strongest; but all three, viewed collectively, support disgorgement of the profits defendants received from the sale of the Old Post Office as ill-gotten gains. Accordingly, Donald Trump, the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, the Trump Organization, Inc., Trump Organization LLC, and the Trump Old Post Office LLC are jointly and severally liable, in the amount of $126,828,600, for the ill-gotten profits Donald Trump netted from the sale of the Old Post Office.

Eric Trump is liable, in the amount of $4,013,024, for the profit distribution he individually received from the sale of the Old Post Office.

Donald Trump, Jr. is liable, in the amount of $4,013,024, for the profit distribution he individually received from the sale of the Old Post Office."

[Parkbandit]

It will be appealed and reversed. Obviously the Judge is a leftist lunatic, just like the DA.

This is the type of stuff you see in a banana republic.

And sErAn is just cheering like he found a free extra dollar on his EBT card.

[Alfster]

It will be appealed and reversed. Obviously the Judge is a leftist lunatic, just like the DA.

This is the type of stuff you see in a banana republic.

And sErAn is just cheering like he found a free extra dollar on his EBT card.He's gotta put up the dough to appeal lol

So this dude's been found to have sexually assaulted a lady, fraudulent gains ..and it's somehow the judge and DA...

Or. maybe. your messiah is simply a piece of shit sexual assaulting fraudster.

Nah. Clearly he's the victim.

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[ClydeR]

So this dude's been found to have sexually assaulted a lady, fraudulent gains ..and it's somehow the judge and DA...


And scamming average people out of thousands of dollars of their savings for a fake university..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvaaeHP9xtQ




Or claiming that money donated to his foundation would go to charitable purposes but instead spending it on himself..


President Trump admitted to misusing nonprofit funds and was ordered to personally pay $2 million to an array of charities as part of a settlement to a lawsuit that accused his now-defunct foundation of illegally helping his 2016 campaign for the White House.

More... (https://www.wsj.com/articles/state-judge-orders-trump-to-personally-pay-2-million-to-settle-new-york-suit-11573153976)



There is nobody he won't grab by the pocketbook, including each of you reading this forum, if you give him the chance. Republicans are almost out of time to save themselves from disaster.

[Parkbandit]

He's gotta put up the dough to appeal lol

So this dude's been found to have sexually assaulted a lady, fraudulent gains ..and it's somehow the judge and DA...

I would talk about how business is done.. how loans are given and approved.. but clearly it would be way over your head. It's unprecedented and when it's overturned by an actual court of law.. you will cry and say it's not fair. This will only provide more ammunition that this is nothing but a political hit job.


Or. maybe. your messiah is simply a piece of shit sexual assaulting fraudster.

Nah. Clearly he's the victim.



Full blown TDS.

Hope it's not fatal.. just really, really painful for you come November.

[Parkbandit]

Republicans are almost out of time to save themselves from disaster.

Hopefully, we can rectify that come November and save the country.

You're welcome, coward.

[Solkern]

Do you think Mar-a-lago is only worth $18 million dollars? Asking for Seran's dad who's still waiting in line at the store to get some Newports.

That’s really tricky, the deed for Mar-a-lago is fucking awful for anyone who owns it, and really limits its value.

You literally can’t do anything with the property except keep it as a country club, which limits and possibly lowers the value of said property, since it has zero possibility of ever being developed.

[Solkern]

He's gotta put up the dough to appeal lol

So this dude's been found to have sexually assaulted a lady, fraudulent gains ..and it's somehow the judge and DA...

Or. maybe. your messiah is simply a piece of shit sexual assaulting fraudster.

Nah. Clearly he's the victim.

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Bench verdicts are rarely overturned. I doubt he will appeal, I think he knows he will either lose, or he just doesn’t have the liquid cash to do an appeal.

[Seran]

What folks tend to do in over thinking an ability to appeal is the court considering the ruling has to find error. The citations, careful consideration of the testimony, all flawless. Trumpies thinking they can just appeal to a more 'favorable' judicial officer doesn't change the weakness of the defense.

[Neveragain]

What folks tend to do in over thinking

As apposed to not thinking at all.

[Methais]

And scamming average people out of thousands of dollars of their savings for a fake university..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvaaeHP9xtQ




Or claiming that money donated to his foundation would go to charitable purposes but instead spending it on himself..





There is nobody he won't grab by the pocketbook, including each of you reading this forum, if you give him the chance. Republicans are almost out of time to save themselves from disaster.

https://i.redd.it/eqreoxiz4p5a1.gif

[Methais]

He's gotta put up the dough to appeal lol

So this dude's been found to have sexually assaulted a lady, fraudulent gains ..and it's somehow the judge and DA...

Or. maybe. your messiah is simply a piece of shit sexual assaulting fraudster.

Nah. Clearly he's the victim.

Sent from my motorola one 5G ace using Tapatalk

https://i.imgur.com/Ivm9WYO.png

https://i.imgur.com/wp1R6TP.png
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-sec-approval-dwac-merger-truth-social-billion-stake-1870406

https://i.imgur.com/2MvRXbE.png

[~Rocktar~]

He's gotta put up the dough to appeal lol

So this dude's been found to have sexually assaulted a lady, fraudulent gains ..and it's somehow the judge and DA...

Or. maybe. your messiah is simply a piece of shit sexual assaulting fraudster.

Nah. Clearly he's the victim.

Sent from my motorola one 5G ace using Tapatalk

No you don't. All it takes is paperwork to do an appeal. Stop trying to out retard Seran.

[Parkbandit]

That’s really tricky, the deed for Mar-a-lago is fucking awful for anyone who owns it, and really limits its value.

You literally can’t do anything with the property except keep it as a country club, which limits and possibly lowers the value of said property, since it has zero possibility of ever being developed.

So THAT'S why it's only valued at 18 million dollars and all the surrounding areas are hundreds of millions of dollars.

Thanks for clearing that up, Solkern! YOU FUCKING SOLVED IT!

"That property is so bad you can only keep it as a money generating property, bringing in 20+ million per year!" -Solkern 2024

[Parkbandit]

What folks tend to do in over thinking an ability to appeal is the court considering the ruling has to find error. The citations, careful consideration of the testimony, all flawless. Trumpies thinking they can just appeal to a more 'favorable' judicial officer doesn't change the weakness of the defense.

If there was a crime, there requires a victim in said crime.

There wasn't any.

Every.single.real.estate.transaction.works.in.the. same.manner.

I have never once decided to take out a business loan and said "You know what, I believe I have over estimated the value of my properties.. I would like to drop it by 5%"

It is up to the bank that gives the loan to do their own due diligence.. that is not the responsibility of the person asking for the loan.

This is what happens when you elect people who have zero real life experience in anything except academia.

[ClydeR]

If there was a crime, there requires a victim in said crime.


Somebody should explain that to cops who give speeding tickets.

[ClydeR]

So THAT'S why it's only valued at 18 million dollars and all the surrounding areas are hundreds of millions of dollars.

At no point did the court value Mar-a-Lago at $18 million. That is something Trump made up and keeps repeating.

[ClydeR]

From The Art of the Deal..


The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It's an innocent form of exaggeration, and a very effective form of promotion.


..wrote the man who has been found to have inflated his financial statements.

[Methais]

At no point did the court value Mar-a-Lago at $18 million. That is something Trump made up and keeps repeating.

I was asking you though, not the court.

EDIT: Actually that was Seran from another thread. I'm sure you can see how it's easy to confuse you both.


But anyway...

Judge at Trump civil fraud trial implores media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18M (https://nypost.com/2023/10/02/judge-implores-media-to-stop-saying-he-valued-mar-a-lago-at-18m/)



Real estate insiders question how Trump fraud judge valued Mar-a-Lago (https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/business/trump-fraud-judge-mar-a-lago/index.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CFrom%202011%2D2021%2C% 20the,Engoron%20wrote%20in%20his%20ruling.)
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/business/trump-fraud-judge-mar-a-lago/index.html#:~:text=%E2%80%9CFrom%202011%2D2021%2C% 20the,Engoron%20wrote%20in%20his%20ruling.


Are you and Engoron saying that the press, the same press you worship, like CNN, lies?

[Parkbandit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80RZs9Fhz3Y

[Parkbandit]

He's gotta put up the dough to appeal lol

Oh no....

Trump Media's merger with DWAC gets regulatory nod. Trump could get a stake worth $4 billion.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-media-dwac-sec-approval-spac/#:~:text=If%20the%20merger%20is%20completed,DWAC's %20stock%20price%20on%20Thursday.

Wonder how you are going to TDS rage about this news....

[~Rocktar~]

Anyone want to bet on how long it is before NYC runs out of food?



https://youtu.be/9kj8HqQv9YY?si=bBJouzulDZ-_ssYU

Oh, and you Leftst, terrorist supporting pieces of shit, consider this, even without strike, Trump is never going to pay 300+ million in fines. All you have done, assuming this verdict and possibly law are not overturned is make sure that pretty much all real-estate development leaves New York. Who would take the risk of developing there with such a farcical sword of Damocles hanging over their head? The state doesn't like you completely consensual agreement with a bank and despite living up to the agreement by both sides, the state will prosecute you. So much for those good construction jobs and all the support. Trump moves out of the state, others move out, there is already a metric shit ton of empty buildings in NYC, there will be a lot more.

All because of a politically motivated sham of a prosecution. San Francisco and elsewhere in Commiefornia, Chicago, now New York, you would think maybe you would have learned with Detroit but no, you haven't. How many more people have to suffer because of your shit policies?

[Parkbandit]

Hochul tells NY businesses not to fear about Trump verdict: ‘Nothing to worry about’

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4474774-hochul-tells-ny-businesses-not-to-fear-about-trump-verdict-nothing-to-worry-about/

I mean sure.. every single real estate developer does the exact same thing Trump did.. but have no fear, you aren't running for President as a Republican.. so just stay in your lane and you have nothing to worry about!

[Methais]

Hochul tells NY businesses not to fear about Trump verdict: ‘Nothing to worry about’

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4474774-hochul-tells-ny-businesses-not-to-fear-about-trump-verdict-nothing-to-worry-about/

I mean sure.. every single real estate developer does the exact same thing Trump did.. but have no fear, you aren't running for President as a Republican.. so just stay in your lane and you have nothing to worry about!

Everyone knows that Disney villains never lie.

[ClydeR]

The Trump case was not a matter of optimistic valuation or good salesmanship. It was the intentional, knowing, gross and repeated misrepresentation of facts to secure a financial benefit. They assured lenders that their valuations were based on outside appraisals. That was not the case. For some properties, they listed an appraiser who had nothing to do with valuing the property. Imagine how surprised he was when called to testify! For others, the values were just numbers derived internally, using deceptive methods. Other properties listed on the financial statements had not yet been built. Values were assigned to licensing deals that had not been signed. Even cash balances were overstated by many multiples. How hard is it to value cash?

Trump claims to have $400 million in the bank and a net worth of $10 billion. If so, he should have no trouble posting his bond for this appeal. Let's wait and see if he overvalued his current bank balance.

[Suppressed Poet]

The Trump case was not a matter of optimistic valuation or good salesmanship. It was the intentional, knowing, gross and repeated misrepresentation of facts to secure a financial benefit. They assured lenders that their valuations were based on outside appraisals. That was not the case. For some properties, they listed an appraiser who had nothing to do with valuing the property. Imagine how surprised he was when called to testify! For others, the values were just numbers derived internally, using deceptive methods. Other properties listed on the financial statements had not yet been built. Values were assigned to licensing deals that had not been signed. Even cash balances were overstated by many multiples. How hard is it to value cash?

Trump claims to have $400 million in the bank and a net worth of $10 billion. If so, he should have no trouble posting his bond for this appeal. Let's wait and see if he overvalued his current bank balance.

As someone who works for a bank, I appreciate you looking out for the benefit of mega financial institutions & absolving them of all sins of poor underwriting. Thanks big government. We know you have our *best interest* at heart. Somebody has to look out for the mega rich white guys.

[Seran]

The Trump case was not a matter of optimistic valuation or good salesmanship. It was the intentional, knowing, gross and repeated misrepresentation of facts to secure a financial benefit. They assured lenders that their valuations were based on outside appraisals. That was not the case. For some properties, they listed an appraiser who had nothing to do with valuing the property. Imagine how surprised he was when called to testify! For others, the values were just numbers derived internally, using deceptive methods. Other properties listed on the financial statements had not yet been built. Values were assigned to licensing deals that had not been signed. Even cash balances were overstated by many multiples. How hard is it to value cash?

Trump claims to have $400 million in the bank and a net worth of $10 billion. If so, he should have no trouble posting his bond for this appeal. Let's wait and see if he overvalued his current bank balance.

No worries there, another grifter from the Church of Scientology has created a GoFundMe to 'pay' for Dump's legal fees. Even money the funds will disappear along with the fake identity that created the page.

[Parkbandit]

The Trump case was not a matter of optimistic valuation or good salesmanship. It was the intentional, knowing, gross and repeated misrepresentation of facts to secure a financial benefit. They assured lenders that their valuations were based on outside appraisals. That was not the case. For some properties, they listed an appraiser who had nothing to do with valuing the property. Imagine how surprised he was when called to testify! For others, the values were just numbers derived internally, using deceptive methods. Other properties listed on the financial statements had not yet been built. Values were assigned to licensing deals that had not been signed. Even cash balances were overstated by many multiples. How hard is it to value cash?

How dare Trump overstate his bank balance to the bank! They have no way of knowing what he has or doesn't have! THE POOR BANK WAS DUPED!

Literally the dumbest thing you have posted here today.


Trump claims to have $400 million in the bank and a net worth of $10 billion. If so, he should have no trouble posting his bond for this appeal. Let's wait and see if he overvalued his current bank balance.

He won't. He can just leverage his holdings on Truth Social and get whatever he wants... it's not the point.

This was purely done because he is Trump and he is running for President. There is no other reason since every.single.real.estate.company. does the same exact thing.

You were duped. It's ok, at this point, you should be used to being used.

[Parkbandit]

No worries there, another grifter from the Church of Scientology has created a GoFundMe to 'pay' for Dump's legal fees. Even money the funds will disappear along with the fake identity that created the page.

Trump has so much money.. 400 million isn't much to him.

It will be appealed and a normal Court will overturn it.

Thanks for bringing the gofundme to everyone's attention. Here's the link to Stand With Trump: https://gofund.me/a7caf0af

[Parkbandit]

As someone who works for a bank, I appreciate you looking out for the benefit of mega financial institutions & absolving them of all sins of poor underwriting. Thanks big government. We know you have our *best interest* at heart. Somebody has to look out for the mega rich white guys.

For real. First time I can remember when the alt-lefties are sticking up for Big Bank.

[Suppressed Poet]

No worries there, another grifter from the Church of Scientology has created a GoFundMe to 'pay' for Dump's legal fees. Even money the funds will disappear along with the fake identity that created the page.

Nah. Trump just introduced his own shoe line “Never Surrender” to pay those legal fees. You can’t afford them, hater.

https://i.yourimageshare.com/I3bh3LZJLx.webp

[Neveragain]

The Trump case was not a matter of optimistic valuation or good salesmanship. It was the intentional, knowing, gross and repeated misrepresentation of facts to secure a financial benefit. They assured lenders that their valuations were based on outside appraisals. That was not the case. For some properties, they listed an appraiser who had nothing to do with valuing the property. Imagine how surprised he was when called to testify! For others, the values were just numbers derived internally, using deceptive methods. Other properties listed on the financial statements had not yet been built. Values were assigned to licensing deals that had not been signed. Even cash balances were overstated by many multiples. How hard is it to value cash?

Trump claims to have $400 million in the bank and a net worth of $10 billion. If so, he should have no trouble posting his bond for this appeal. Let's wait and see if he overvalued his current bank balance.

That's a lot of words for saying "The banks didn't do their job."

Like any other transaction, the seller sets a price, the buyer either agrees to the price or offers a counteroffer. It's not the duty of the seller to counteroffer their own price.

The normal prole get's a rectal exam from the banks for a used car loan. Why wouldn't they do the same for a loan worth 10's of millions, unless they had never had problems with the customer in past dealings?

You're no better than Putin at this point.

[Seran]

Nah. Trump just introduced his own shoe line “Never Surrender” to pay those legal fees. You can’t afford them, hater.

https://i.yourimageshare.com/I3bh3LZJLx.webp

LOL. Patriot sneakers huh.. Enjoy them!

[Neveragain]

LOL. Patriot sneakers huh.. Enjoy them!

They're already reselling at 500% markup...

Nobody is going to be wearing these.

Future Trump shoe styles: Locker Ups, J6's, Pocahontas platforms, Sleepyhead Slippers...

[kutter]

Trump moves out of the state, others move out, there is already a metric shit ton of empty buildings in NYC, there will be a lot more.

New York should be happy about that, now that sanctuary city can welcome even more illegal migrants and house them in the empty buildings. Its a WIN-WIN! Until they run out of money that is.

[ClydeR]

You're no better than Putin at this point.

That is hilarious!

[Neveragain]

That is hilarious!

Supporting imprisoning political opponents is hilarious.

[Neveragain]

New York should be happy about that, now that sanctuary city can welcome even more illegal migrants and house them in the empty buildings. Its a WIN-WIN! Until they run out of money that is.

They will just declare a state of emergency, the feds will give them money and the proles will be on the hook, again.

It's a fixed game and there's only one way out.

https://media.tenor.com/BQMFa0M7VM4AAAAM/thomasjefferson-smiling.gif

[kutter]

[QUOTE=Neveragain;2302893]It's a fixed game and there's only one way out.

And that is why I am buying more reloading supplies.

[Orthin]

Nah. Trump just introduced his own shoe line “Never Surrender” to pay those legal fees. You can’t afford them, hater.

https://i.yourimageshare.com/I3bh3LZJLx.webp

Like him or not…that’s a dope set of kicks. As someone not keen on him I’d still rock his shoes. I did look at his low tops and they were underwhelming but man those high tops are nice

[Seran]

Like him or not…that’s a dope set of kicks. As someone not keen on him I’d still rock his shoes. I did look at his low tops and they were underwhelming but man those high tops are nice

Now every Republican man can have a pair of kicks just like Wonder Woman.

[Parkbandit]

Now every Republican man can have a pair of kicks just like Wonder Woman.

And you never will.. because Trump doesn't take EBT.

Sorry.

[Suppressed Poet]

Like him or not…that’s a dope set of kicks. As someone not keen on him I’d still rock his shoes. I did look at his low tops and they were underwhelming but man those high tops are nice

I agree. Politics aside, somebody was on their A-game designing those high tops.

[Neveragain]

Now every Republican man can have a pair of kicks just like Wonder Woman.

They must have some form of superpower, because, you keep crying.

[Methais]

The Trump case was not a matter of optimistic valuation or good salesmanship. It was the intentional, knowing, gross and repeated misrepresentation of facts to secure a financial benefit. They assured lenders that their valuations were based on outside appraisals. That was not the case. For some properties, they listed an appraiser who had nothing to do with valuing the property. Imagine how surprised he was when called to testify! For others, the values were just numbers derived internally, using deceptive methods. Other properties listed on the financial statements had not yet been built. Values were assigned to licensing deals that had not been signed. Even cash balances were overstated by many multiples. How hard is it to value cash?

Trump claims to have $400 million in the bank and a net worth of $10 billion. If so, he should have no trouble posting his bond for this appeal. Let's wait and see if he overvalued his current bank balance.

How are you this monumentally retarded?

Please answer. And be specific.

[Methais]

For real. First time I can remember when the alt-lefties are sticking up for Big Bank.

Far leftists like Seran now openly cheer for Nazis, terrorists, anti-semites, big pharma, big banks, big corporations in general, racists, rapists, sexists, violence against women, pedophiles, child abuse, blatant corruption, authoritarians, mass shooters who aren't straight white Christian males, etc.

I'm sure there's more but that's just off the top of my head.

[Methais]

Now every Republican man can have a pair of kicks just like Wonder Woman.

Don't be mad because you can't afford even velcro shoes from Walmart.

https://i.imgur.com/mC0HH4c.png

[Solkern]

Like him or not…that’s a dope set of kicks. As someone not keen on him I’d still rock his shoes. I did look at his low tops and they were underwhelming but man those high tops are nice

And it’s probably going to be another lawsuit lol

[Methais]

And it’s probably going to be another lawsuit lol

Based on what?

[Suppressed Poet]

Based on what?

Louboutin has a trademark on red soles.

They would be stupid to bring a lawsuit. Republicans buy their products. We’ve seen what happened to Anheuser Bush. Never Surrender is an appropriate name for the sneakers. FAFO

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Now every Republican man can have a pair of kicks just like Wonder Woman.

Or any famous/rich/or shoe collector who likes hightops like these Chanel gold hightops my old boss had.

https://www.grailed.com/listings/56817720-chanel-men-s-logo-high-top-sneakers-crocodile-embossed-leather-none?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=googleshopping&utm_term=sem_nonbranded&utm_content=%20%7C%20sandals&srsltid=AfmBOorDxwe5Vr4wLzN5FZ7qtP_l950O04_4pfAniX pyfFpSaf34D461gEI

[Neveragain]

Louboutin has a trademark on red soles.

Trademarks on color have to be a specific color match registered by the owner. Examples: John Deere green, Principal blue...etc. Every trademark color has it's own specific mix of pigmentation ratios.

The soles of those shoes are not Louboutin red.

https://premiertablelinens.com/cdn/shop/products/square-pms-color-matched-wedding-tablecloth-1_530x@2x.png?v=1699305071

https://img.ssensemedia.com/images/231813M237019_1/red-louis-junior-spikes-orlato-sneakers.jpg

[Suppressed Poet]

Trademarks on color have to be a specific color match registered by the owner. Examples: John Deere green, Principal blue...etc. Every trademark color has it's own specific mix of pigmentation ratios.

The soles of those shoes are not Louboutin red.

https://premiertablelinens.com/cdn/shop/products/square-pms-color-matched-wedding-tablecloth-1_530x@2x.png?v=1699305071

https://img.ssensemedia.com/images/231813M237019_1/red-louis-junior-spikes-orlato-sneakers.jpg

Makes sense.

Clearly this shade on the sole is “His Majesty’s Redcoat Tyrant Blood” as these shoes were made to ass-kick those who would seek to subjugate the American people.

[Parkbandit]

Based on what?

"OMG BECAUSE TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!" - What every unhinged liberal with a raging case of TDS will say and agree.

[Seran]

Trump is definetly going to post bond for 300M+ judgment by selling 20 pairs of shitty high tops at $399 a pop. That is if you're using Trump math where $7,980 equals millions of dollars.

[Methais]

Trump is definetly going to post bond for 300M+ judgment by selling 20 pairs of shitty high tops at $399 a pop. That is if you're using Trump math where $7,980 equals millions of dollars.

I guess he'll have to fall back on that $4b from the Truth Social deal.

Cope and seethe some more, greasy loser.

[Parkbandit]

Trump is definetly going to post bond for 300M+ judgment by selling 20 pairs of shitty high tops at $399 a pop. That is if you're using Trump math where $7,980 equals millions of dollars.

Who said he was "definetly" going to make the 300M by selling sneakers?

How are you this retarded every day and continue to spit in the face of Charles Darwin?

[Neveragain]

Makes sense.

Clearly this shade on the sole is “His Majesty’s Redcoat Tyrant Blood” as these shoes were made to ass-kick those who would seek to subjugate the American people.

Trademark colors are a pain in the ass to work with. We would have to use their ink manufacturer, which meant their ink would run differently with our water chemistry. Roller train would have to either be completely swapped out or torn down and stripped of any glaze. Most long contract places buy machinery that only runs the customers product. Principal blue was always the worst.

[ClydeR]

NEW YORK (AP) — Wayne LaPierre misspent millions of dollars of the National Rifle Association’s money during his decades leading the powerful gun lobby, using the funds to pay for an extravagant lifestyle that included exotic getaways and trips on private planes and superyachts, a New York jury determined Friday.

The jury ordered LaPierre, 74, to repay the group he led for three decades $4,351,231. It also ordered the NRA’s retired finance chief, Wilson Phillips, to pay back the group $2 million. Jurors also found that the NRA omitted or misrepresented information in its tax filings and violated New York law by failing to adopt a whistleblower policy.

More... (https://apnews.com/article/nra-wayne-lapierre-trial-ruling-d4d9b950ee2cbd63380826eb2bf210e6)


The jury verdict requiring an NRA official to repay the NRA for funds spent for the official's personal expenses should alarm Trump. The RNC is spending its money on Trump's personal legal bills, instead of the RNC's legitimate purposes. Don't be surprised if Trump is required to repay that money in the future.

[Suppressed Poet]

The jury verdict requiring an NRA official to repay the NRA for funds spent for the official's personal expenses should alarm Trump. The RNC is spending its money on Trump's personal legal bills, instead of the RNC's legitimate purposes. Don't be surprised if Trump is required to repay that money in the future.

Fuck Wayne LaPierre. He ruined the NRA. Ask any gun nut and they will tell you the same.

Also, you have no idea what you are talking about trying to relate this case to Trump. Just stop.

[Seran]

Trump's daughter in law just said at a campaign that the RNC should fund all of Dumps personal legal expenses, so yeah it's pretty related.

[Parkbandit]

Trump's daughter in law just said at a campaign that the RNC should fund all of Dumps personal legal expenses, so yeah it's pretty related.

President Trump is selling sneakers, so he will "definetly" make 300M.

[Methais]

President Trump is selling sneakers, so he will "definetly" make 300M.

The $4b from the Truth Social merger should help slightly too.

[ClydeR]

The $4b from the Truth Social merger should help slightly too.

Yes, that will certainly make it hard for Trump to get out of paying his debts by declaring bankruptcy.

[Methais]

Yes, that will certainly make it even harder for me to control my TDS.

This is correct.

[~Rocktar~]

Yes, that will certainly make it hard for Trump to get out of paying his debts by declaring bankruptcy.

Court judgements and student loans are immune from forgiveness by bankruptcy. Take the Biden soiled underpants off your head and stop licking the window.

[Parkbandit]

Yes, that will certainly make it hard for Trump to get out of paying his debts by declaring bankruptcy.

Tell us specifically how Trump could declare bankruptcy to get out of a court ordered fine.

You should send sErAn a thank you card for being the biggest retard on this forum.

[ClydeR]

Court judgements and student loans are immune from forgiveness by bankruptcy. Take the Biden soiled underpants off your head and stop licking the window.

You're jumping to the end of the bankruptcy case, and you may be correct about what would be the outcome at that time. However, it would take months to get to that point. During that delay, there would be an automatic "stay" of all court proceedings, including a stay of Trump's obligation to put up money to file an appeal. By the time it is over, Trump would hope to be President. While he is President, he would argue that he is immune to any court proceeding against him. The main concern would be how declaring bankruptcy would affect public perception of him and, thus, his chances of becoming President.

Would Trump be justified in declaring bankruptcy? If paying half a billion dollars relating to the sexual assault, defamation and financial fraud judgments would imperil Trump's or his business' ability to pay debts that were owed before Trump's recent court losses, then that could be a valid reason for declaring bankruptcy and letting a court decide which creditors should be paid first.

Multiple Trump businesses have filed bankruptcy in the past, in order to pressure creditors to accept less than the full amount owed. Trump has never filed a personal bankruptcy. Here is a fair summary of Trump's history with bankruptcy laws.. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/

[~Rocktar~]

You're jumping to the end of the bankruptcy case, and you may be correct about what would be the outcome at that time. However, it would take months to get to that point. During that delay, there would be an automatic "stay" of all court proceedings, including a stay of Trump's obligation to put up money to file an appeal. By the time it is over, Trump would hope to be President. While he is President, he would argue that he is immune to any court proceeding against him. The main concern would be how declaring bankruptcy would affect public perception of him and, thus, his chances of becoming President.

Would Trump be justified in declaring bankruptcy? If paying half a billion dollars relating to the sexual assault, defamation and financial fraud judgments would imperil Trump's or his business' ability to pay debts that were owed before Trump's recent court losses, then that could be a valid reason for declaring bankruptcy and letting a court decide which creditors should be paid first.

Multiple Trump businesses have filed bankruptcy in the past, in order to pressure creditors to accept less than the full amount owed. Trump has never filed a personal bankruptcy. Here is a fair summary of Trump's history with bankruptcy laws.. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/

You don't, in any way, understand any of this. At no point is a student loan or court ordered judgement included anywhere in any decision making of any kind regarding bankruptcy from the court's perspective. You can file all you want and they will do a review and toss it. And in the mean time, there is no impediment to the timeframe of court collection. Period.

What will happen quickly is this farsical trial and judgement by a clearly biased (as shown in video and statements made before, during and after the trial) judge will be tossed on appeal or greatly reduced. And it will happen in short order since now governor Dumbfuck Cunt of New York and mayor Illegal Giveaway of NYC are feeling the pain of businesses leaving in short order along with the trucking strike.

[Parkbandit]

You're jumping to the end of the bankruptcy case, and you may be correct about what would be the outcome at that time. However, it would take months to get to that point. During that delay, there would be an automatic "stay" of all court proceedings, including a stay of Trump's obligation to put up money to file an appeal. By the time it is over, Trump would hope to be President. While he is President, he would argue that he is immune to any court proceeding against him. The main concern would be how declaring bankruptcy would affect public perception of him and, thus, his chances of becoming President.

Would Trump be justified in declaring bankruptcy? If paying half a billion dollars relating to the sexual assault, defamation and financial fraud judgments would imperil Trump's or his business' ability to pay debts that were owed before Trump's recent court losses, then that could be a valid reason for declaring bankruptcy and letting a court decide which creditors should be paid first.

Multiple Trump businesses have filed bankruptcy in the past, in order to pressure creditors to accept less than the full amount owed. Trump has never filed a personal bankruptcy. Here is a fair summary of Trump's history with bankruptcy laws.. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/

Doubling down on stupidity... awesome. I haven't seen you double down on something so wrong since you tried to tie the open border to Trump.. then got shit on by actual numbers.

Doubling down on something dumb isn't new.. sErAn does it almost every day. His personal best is an extremely rare septuple.

If you want to prove your worthiness as a contender.. we're going to need you to get to at least a quad.

[Seran]

You're jumping to the end of the bankruptcy case, and you may be correct about what would be the outcome at that time. However, it would take months to get to that point. During that delay, there would be an automatic "stay" of all court proceedings, including a stay of Trump's obligation to put up money to file an appeal. By the time it is over, Trump would hope to be President. While he is President, he would argue that he is immune to any court proceeding against him. The main concern would be how declaring bankruptcy would affect public perception of him and, thus, his chances of becoming President.

Would Trump be justified in declaring bankruptcy? If paying half a billion dollars relating to the sexual assault, defamation and financial fraud judgments would imperil Trump's or his business' ability to pay debts that were owed before Trump's recent court losses, then that could be a valid reason for declaring bankruptcy and letting a court decide which creditors should be paid first.

Multiple Trump businesses have filed bankruptcy in the past, in order to pressure creditors to accept less than the full amount owed. Trump has never filed a personal bankruptcy. Here is a fair summary of Trump's history with bankruptcy laws.. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/sep/21/carly-fiorina/trumps-four-bankruptcies/

A civil monetary judgment is dischargable in a bankruptcy /unless/ it was the result of an act of fraud, which is why Dump's 400+ million interest bearing judgment is non dischargeable.

[ClydeR]

You don't, in any way, understand any of this. At no point is a student loan or court ordered judgement included anywhere in any decision making of any kind regarding bankruptcy from the court's perspective. You can file all you want and they will do a review and toss it. And in the mean time, there is no impediment to the timeframe of court collection. Period.

If you Google it, you will conclude that a bankruptcy filing automatically stops the collection of all debts, including those that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, until the court makes a ruling.. https://www.google.com/search?q=Does+the+bankruptcy+automatic+stay+apply+ to+nondischargeable+debts. Child support is one of the very few exceptions to that rule.

That makes sense. Suppose a debtor who already owes money to a bank is found by a jury to owe money to the debtor's sexual assault victim. It would be unfair to the bank if all of the debtor's money goes to the sexual assault victim. If the debtor does not have enough money to pay both the bank and the sexual assault victim on time, then a bankruptcy proceeding would allow a judge to be sure that the debtor's assets are paid in the proper order. After the bankruptcy proceeding, the debtor would still owe the sexual assault victim, but the debtor would have less money left for the sexual assault victim if the court determined that the bank should be paid first.

Trump's purpose in making a filing would be to delay having to pay any money for as long as possible. If the is elected President before having to pay, then the rules will change in his favor. To be clear, I do not believe Trump will try to file bankruptcy, because it would reduce his chances of being elected.



What will happen quickly is this farsical trial and judgement by a clearly biased (as shown in video and statements made before, during and after the trial) judge will be tossed on appeal or greatly reduced. And it will happen in short order since now governor Dumbfuck Cunt of New York and mayor Illegal Giveaway of NYC are feeling the pain of businesses leaving in short order along with the trucking strike.

I hope the courts will act quickly. That does not seem likely. On May 11, 2023, Trump appealed the first Carroll verdict. The appeals court has not yet heard the appeal.

[~Rocktar~]

If you Google it, you will conclude that a bankruptcy filing automatically stops the collection of all debts, including those that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, until the court makes a ruling.. https://www.google.com/search?q=Does+the+bankruptcy+automatic+stay+apply+ to+nondischargeable+debts. Child support is one of the very few exceptions to that rule.

That makes sense. Suppose a debtor who already owes money to a bank is found by a jury to owe money to the debtor's sexual assault victim. It would be unfair to the bank if all of the debtor's money goes to the sexual assault victim. If the debtor does not have enough money to pay both the bank and the sexual assault victim on time, then a bankruptcy proceeding would allow a judge to be sure that the debtor's assets are paid in the proper order. After the bankruptcy proceeding, the debtor would still owe the sexual assault victim, but the debtor would have less money left for the sexual assault victim if the court determined that the bank should be paid first.

Trump's purpose in making a filing would be to delay having to pay any money for as long as possible. If the is elected President before having to pay, then the rules will change in his favor. To be clear, I do not believe Trump will try to file bankruptcy, because it would reduce his chances of being elected.




I hope the courts will act quickly. That does not seem likely. On May 11, 2023, Trump appealed the first Carroll verdict. The appeals court has not yet heard the appeal.


Umm, just no. It won't stop any collections in the court judgement. And the primary issue is the fraudulent NY case that was just decided, even Seran knows that bankruptcy won't help.

Also, given the state of the country and the impending war with Russia and China thanks to Biden and Obama, nothing will really affect Trump being elected. He could almost eat a live baby on camera and still get elected.

[Parkbandit]

If you Google it, you will conclude that a bankruptcy filing automatically stops the collection of all debts, including those that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy, until the court makes a ruling.. https://www.google.com/search?q=Does+the+bankruptcy+automatic+stay+apply+ to+nondischargeable+debts. Child support is one of the very few exceptions to that rule.

That makes sense. Suppose a debtor who already owes money to a bank is found by a jury to owe money to the debtor's sexual assault victim. It would be unfair to the bank if all of the debtor's money goes to the sexual assault victim. If the debtor does not have enough money to pay both the bank and the sexual assault victim on time, then a bankruptcy proceeding would allow a judge to be sure that the debtor's assets are paid in the proper order. After the bankruptcy proceeding, the debtor would still owe the sexual assault victim, but the debtor would have less money left for the sexual assault victim if the court determined that the bank should be paid first.

Trump's purpose in making a filing would be to delay having to pay any money for as long as possible. If the is elected President before having to pay, then the rules will change in his favor. To be clear, I do not believe Trump will try to file bankruptcy, because it would reduce his chances of being elected.

I hope the courts will act quickly. That does not seem likely. On May 11, 2023, Trump appealed the first Carroll verdict. The appeals court has not yet heard the appeal.

WE HAVE A TRIPLE!

Prove your worth for once ClydeR... give us what we need.. a quad.

[ClydeR]

Get ready for Stormy Daniels! That trial starts March 25. In the below quoted article from last year, Trump denied having an affair with Daniels. In the very unlikely event that Trump testifies, it will be interesting to see how he explains his past false statements and how that affects his credibility when he testifies that he did not falsify his financial statements to cover up the affair.


Trump denies the affair with Daniels, whom he publicly refers to as “horseface,” and has rejected multiple allegations related to the scheme, which legal experts suggest could lead to charges of falsifying business records against the former president.

“I did absolutely nothing wrong, I never had an affair with Stormy Daniels, nor would I have wanted to have an affair with Stormy Daniels,” he said in a statement on Thursday.

More... (https://fox5sandiego.com/hill-politics/5-key-figures-in-the-manhattan-das-trump-probe/amp/)

[ClydeR]

Trump asked the judge in his upcoming criminal trial to deny the prosecution the right to call Stormy Daniels to testify. The case is, in part, about whether or not Trump misstated his financial statements to hide hush money payments to Stormy Daniels. Trump denies having an affair with Daniels. Don't you think her testimony about whether or not they had an affair is relevant to show whether or not Trump had a reason to pay her $130,000 and then disguise the payment as something else?


Trump attorney Todd Blanche moved to block testimony from Michael Cohen, Trump’s ex-fixer, and two women he paid to stay quiet about affairs they alleged with Trump: Porn actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal.

Trump’s reimbursements to Cohen are the thrust of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s (D) prosecution of Trump, who denies the affairs and pleaded not guilty to his 34 charges of falsifying business records.

The 47-page motion attacks the witnesses’ credibility at length, casting Cohen as a “liar” and suggesting Daniels would offer “false” and “salacious” testimony.

More... (https://thehill.com/homenews/4490109-trump-block-stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-ny-hush-money-trial/)

[ClydeR]

Shifting focus back to the New York civil financial fraud trial that Trump recently lost..



Donald Trump's lawyers told a New York appellate court Wednesday that he's prepared to post a $100 million bond to halt collection of his staggering civil fraud penalty, arguing that provisions of the verdict make it impossible for the former president to secure a bond for the full amount.

Trump's lawyers floated the offer in court papers asking the state's mid-level appeals court for an order preventing New York Attorney General Letitia James' office from enforcing the $454 million judgment while his appeal plays out. Trump would have to post the full amount to pause collection automatically.

The appeals court heard arguments at an emergency hearing Wednesday, and a judge could issue a decision by the end of the day.

More... (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fraud-appeal-bond-new-york/)

If the appellate court declines to allow Trump to post a bond of less than the judgment amount, then I predict Trump will file for bankruptcy. In many states, legislatures have placed a cap on the amount of an appeals bond, to avoid extreme situations like this. New York's legislature has not.

[ClydeR]

There's an update from the same source..


A New York appellate judge on Wednesday refused to halt collection of Donald Trump's $454 million civil fraud penalty while he appeals, rejecting the former president's request that he be allowed to post a bond covering just a fraction of what he owes.

Judge Anil Singh of the state's mid-level appeals court ruled that Trump must post a bond covering the full amount in order to stop enforcement of the judgment. Singh did grant some of Trump's requests, including pausing a three-year ban on him seeking loans from New York banks — which could help him secure the necessary bond.

[Parkbandit]

When it's overturned on appeal, I hope he can recoup the Bidinterest on the loan to NY.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

What they are doing to Trump should disgust every single person who believes in the rule of law. I can't wait until he's President and goes after all these DAs and out of control litigators. Payback should be a bitch.

[ClydeR]

What they are doing to Trump should disgust every single person who believes in the rule of law.

If they didn't prosecute Trump for his crimes, then every single person who believes in the rule of law would be disgusted.

[~Rocktar~]

If they didn't prosecute Trump for his crimes, then every single person who believes in the rule of law would be disgusted.

If those doing the prosecuting weren't so disgustingly partisan and corrupt in their prosecutions of fake crimes while excusing the blatant and gross corruption, your sentiment might have some value. As it stands, based on your own gross corruption and that of your party it bears less value than used single ply, Dollar General toilet paper in a rain storm.

[Solkern]

Trump just said he had 400m in liquid cash, now he’s asking for a reduction because he will have trouble raising cash… lol

[Neveragain]

If they didn't prosecute Trump for his crimes, then every single person who believes in the rule of law would be disgusted.

Still waiting for the customers of Ghislaine Maxwell, who's is sitting in prison, to stand before a judge.

Still waiting on the presidents son, who illegally purchased a firearm, solicited prostitutes and possessed controlled substances, to stand before a judge.


You're just as bad as Putin.

[Neveragain]

Trump just said he had 400m in liquid cash, now he’s asking for a reduction because he will have trouble raising cash… lol

Tell us more about sneaker lawsuits... lol.

Aren't you married to a red Sparrow and worked with Russian banks?

(It would be that easy to destroy you financially)

[Solkern]

Tell us more about sneaker lawsuits... lol.

Aren't you married to a red Sparrow and worked with Russian banks?

(It would be that easy to destroy you financially)


Tell us more about that Twitter news story. You should make another thread for it.

[Neveragain]

Tell us more about that Twitter news story. You should make another thread for it.

I think we should dig further into your banking relations with Russia and marrying a Red Sparrow. If it was good enough for Russia, Russia, Russia it's certainly good enough for you. The precedence has been set and you have cheered it on the whole way, because, Trump.

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about the Tucker Carlson assassination attempt.

[Seran]

Trump just said he had 400m in liquid cash, now he’s asking for a reduction because he will have trouble raising cash… lol

Shocker, Trump lied about his ability to pay a bond for a massive fine for having lied about his wealth.

[Parkbandit]

Trump just said he had 400m in liquid cash, now he’s asking for a reduction because he will have trouble raising cash… lol

What's so funny about that? He has 30 days to put the money up... wouldn't you do everything legally possible to get that amount to be lower?

How does Trump make people so fucking retarded?

[Parkbandit]

Shocker, Trump lied about his ability to pay a bond for a massive fine for having lied about his wealth.

Another case in point... although sErAn was retarded far longer than Trump became a Republican.

[Parkbandit]

If they didn't prosecute Trump for his crimes, then every single person who believes in the rule of law would be disgusted.

They are applying the law differently in the case of Trump. The Governor of New York even stated as much.

It's ok.. he will win on appeal.

[Methais]

If they didn't prosecute Trump for his crimes, then every single person who believes in the rule of law would be disgusted.

Should Obama be charged with murder for assassinating a 16 year old American?

You know, something that was an actual crime, unlike the case with Trump.

[Suppressed Poet]

That's nice that you think that, but bear in mind the Supreme Court only takes a fraction of cases which parties file requests for reconsideration on. So while you may think that court orders have no force and effect because the Supreme Court exists, I'll remind you that you're wrong and a court order is still a legal judgment until/unless it is overturned.

In case you missed it, SCOTUS has agreed to take the case in regards to presidential immunity.

[Methais]

In case you missed it, SCOTUS has agreed to take the case in regards to presidential immunity.

Seran has never made a post that aged well.

[Seran]

In case you missed it, SCOTUS has agreed to take the case in regards to presidential immunity.

Annd.. what about it? They're reviewing the case, let me know if something substantial actually happens.

[Suppressed Poet]

Annd.. what about it? They're reviewing the case, let me know if something substantial actually happens.

It’s ok Seran. You are who you are. Jesus still loves you.

https://i.yourimageshare.com/303i3Yxc2Y.jpeg

[Parkbandit]

Seran has never made a post that aged well.

sErAn didn't age well either.

Most people get smarter as they age... he's done the opposite.

[Seran]

Jesus loves Texas too, by setting it on fire.

[Parkbandit]

Jesus loves Texas too, by setting it on fire.

derp derp...

I would say you are a piece of shit, but you probably don't even understand what you are saying.. so I'll just say this:


https://y.yarn.co/683fbf4b-df64-4b89-9ef3-2c66f4797404_text.gif

[Methais]

Annd.. what about it? They're reviewing the case, let me know if something substantial actually happens.

i.e. You're already coping and seething

[Methais]

Jesus loves Texas too, by setting it on fire.

He must really love California then.

Retard.

[Suppressed Poet]

Jesus loves Texas too, by setting it on fire.

Is that what you think? I pity you.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Is that what you think? I pity you.

It's just a piece of shit dude. All it's "arguments" have been soundly defeated so it resorts to trolling.

[Solkern]

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about the Tucker Carlson assassination attempt.


LOL ok got it, let’s use your logic shall we?

I read on Twitter that Trump admitted to having sexual fantasies about his daughter wearing a panda outfit, and he masturbates to her, using just his left hand.

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about this, so it must be true!



You’re a fucking idiot.

[Suppressed Poet]

It's just a piece of shit dude. All it's "arguments" have been soundly defeated so it resorts to trolling.

Yeah he has done this a few times where he celebrates the death of innocents via natural disaster. What a miserable person Seran must be.

[Parkbandit]

LOL ok got it, let’s use your logic shall we?

I read on Twitter that Trump admitted to having sexual fantasies about his daughter wearing a panda outfit, and he masturbates to her, using just his left hand.

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about this, so it must be true!

You’re a fucking idiot.

First sErAn and now Soykern...

Sounds like this story is more and more true, given their history of being retardly wrong about E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G.

[~Rocktar~]

Yeah he has done this a few times where he celebrates the death of innocents via natural disaster. What a miserable person Seran must be.

Along with the mass murder, rape and mutilation/beheading/dismemberment of Jewish men, women and infants.

[Neveragain]

LOL ok got it, let’s use your logic shall we?

I read on Twitter that Trump admitted to having sexual fantasies about his daughter wearing a panda outfit, and he masturbates to her, using just his left hand.

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about this, so it must be true!



You’re a fucking idiot.

When you need a strawman because you can't refute the evidence.

Is this like the Russian space nukes that we suddenly found out about, that we knew about a long time ago? Because Ukraine is getting wrecked and they want to send another 100 billion dollars in US tax payer money while doing nothing about our own border?

The only fucking idiots are the people that are denying what's happening because Trump makes you cry.

[Methais]

LOL ok got it, let’s use your logic shall we?

I read on Twitter that Trump admitted to having sexual fantasies about his daughter wearing a panda outfit, and he masturbates to her, using just his left hand.

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about this, so it must be true!



You’re a fucking idiot.

https://i.imgur.com/KzdyhZD.png

[Seran]

LOL ok got it, let’s use your logic shall we?

I read on Twitter that Trump admitted to having sexual fantasies about his daughter wearing a panda outfit, and he masturbates to her, using just his left hand.

I have yet to see anything that disproves anything about this, so it must be true!



You’re a fucking idiot.

I mean, we know for a fact he lusts after his daughter, he's said as much in interviews. The rest, minus the panda outfit, likely isn't that much of an extrapolation. In lieu of the panda outfit, I'm pretty sure he fantasizes more about a Putin-esque outfit.

[Parkbandit]

I mean, we know for a fact he lusts after his daughter, he's said as much in interviews. The rest, minus the panda outfit, likely isn't that much of an extrapolation. In lieu of the panda outfit, I'm pretty sure he fantasizes more about a Putin-esque outfit.

I haven't heard he showered with his teenage daughter though.. to the point she was so disgusted with her father that she would rather be unhygienic than to risk him entering while she was showering.

Oh wait, that was Joe Biden.

Now, I know you can relate.. given you simply don't shower and you just say that icestuous pedophilia is just an example of you can't help who you love.....

[Solkern]

https://i.imgur.com/KzdyhZD.png

I’m sorry, using Neveragain’s logic, since I have yet to see any evidence to disprove it, it must be true.

[Seran]

Schrodinger's Cheeto.

[Neveragain]

I’m sorry, using Neveragain’s logic, since I have yet to see any evidence to disprove it, it must be true.

I inherited that logic from Democrats, since Trump was elected in 2017, it's been the standard.

This is the standard set by your people, it's how YOU want things to be. I certainly know you have a hell of a lot more to lose than I.

Worked with Russian banks, married a Red Sparrow...You better hope some journalist doesn't get a wild hair up their ass.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/mKG9pUQ2i8cSPwS7mY/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952fblf9blz4g7aoosvcyd8292m767rf sjz67aa7z7n&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[Neveragain]

It can only be true if it comes from the American media:

"But is it preposterous?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpVd7k1Uw6A

Solkern and Serans most trusted news network.

[Solkern]

I inherited that logic from Democrats, since Trump was elected in 2017, it's been the standard.

This is the standard set by your people, it's how YOU want things to be. I certainly know you have a hell of a lot more to lose than I.

Worked with Russian banks, married a Red Sparrow...You better hope some journalist doesn't get a wild hair up their ass.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/mKG9pUQ2i8cSPwS7mY/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952fblf9blz4g7aoosvcyd8292m767rf sjz67aa7z7n&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

What’s funny is, you actually think HSBC is a Russian bank. Shows how little you know.
But go ahead and move those goalpost, from working in/with Russian banks, to working for a bank that has an office in Russia.

But if you want, keep thinking that it is, I’m sure if you keep staring in the mirror while repeating it, it’s bound to become true!

[Neveragain]

What’s funny is, you actually think HSBC is a Russian bank. Shows how little you know.
But go ahead and move those goalpost, from working in/with Russian banks, to working for a bank that has an office in Russia.

But if you want, keep thinking that it is, I’m sure if you keep staring in the mirror while repeating it, it’s bound to become true!

"But is it preposterous?"

Kind of like your sneaker lawsuit?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/15/63/fd/1563fdcdd1a1be8d806575f2b7950c11.gif

[Parkbandit]

What’s funny is, you actually think HSBC is a Russian bank. Shows how little you know.
But go ahead and move those goalpost, from working in/with Russian banks, to working for a bank that has an office in Russia.

But if you want, keep thinking that it is, I’m sure if you keep staring in the mirror while repeating it, it’s bound to become true!

He probably doesn't believe your stories that you work for a bank, given how you didn't know the difference between debt and deficit.