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Yes, actually, because Germany and Japan negotiated surrender. That's how it works since we didn't just go in and kill everyone in the upper command and so on.

Yeah, no for Germany, and not really for Japan as their ONLY condition was purely symbolic and would have probably surrendered anyways if the allies said fuck no.

Germany did not negotiate peace terms.
The Allies (United States, United Kingdom, Soviet Union, and others) demanded unconditional surrender — meaning Germany had no bargaining power.
Adolf Hitler committed suicide on April 30, 1945.
Germany surrendered unconditionally on May 7–8, 1945.
The surrender documents were signed in Reims, France, and then again in Berlin for the Soviets.

So, Germany’s end came by military defeat and unconditional surrender, not through a negotiated settlement.


The Allies insisted on no negotiation whatsoever.
The German government tried to arrange a separate peace with the Western Allies while continuing to fight the Soviets — but the Allies refused.
In the end, Germany was forced into total, unconditional surrender. There was no middle ground, no negotiated terms.

The Allies deliberately avoided any kind of negotiated settlement because of World War I, they believed that deal had allowed Germany to claim it wasn’t truly defeated and had contributed to World War II.

Japan’s situation was similar: the Allies demanded unconditional surrender in the Potsdam Declaration.
After the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, plus the Soviet Union’s declaration of war against Japan, Japan agreed to surrender.
Japan requested one condition — that the Emperor could remain as a symbolic leader. The Allies accepted this interpretation.
Japan’s surrender was formally signed on September 2, 1945, aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo.