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    So far I’m really pleased with the Iran situation. Israel is kicking ass and taking names. It’s smart that we didn’t commit to direct involvement. Israel has really done the dirty work for us destroying their nuclear capabilities & eliminating key Iranian officials. I now agree the world is safer for it, and as PB and others mentioned…doesn’t appear China or Russia want any part of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    So far I’m really pleased with the Iran situation. Israel is kicking ass and taking names. It’s smart that we didn’t commit to direct involvement. Israel has really done the dirty work for us destroying their nuclear capabilities & eliminating key Iranian officials. I now agree the world is safer for it, and as PB and others mentioned…doesn’t appear China or Russia want any part of this.
    It's a very thin line for the US... personally I believe we are almost too involved.. giving intelligence, defending incoming rockets into Israel and moving tons of resources into place in the region.

    All it will take is Iran or one of it's proxies to underestimate the resolve of the US.. and fire upon a ship or a base.. and then we are fully committing to regime change again in Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    It's a very thin line for the US... personally I believe we are almost too involved.. giving intelligence, defending incoming rockets into Israel and moving tons of resources into place in the region.

    All it will take is Iran or one of it's proxies to underestimate the resolve of the US.. and fire upon a ship or a base.. and then we are fully committing to regime change again in Iran.
    True, but honestly I only see this ending one of two ways:

    1) Iran makes a peace deal with economic incentives to the US, and agrees to regulation to make sure they do not become a nuclear power.

    2) A war that ends in the death of their supreme leader and forces a regime change (be it with or without our direct involvement).

    My guess is Iran chooses option #1. If they attack our military bases or embassies, that option is off the table and we will join Israel in destroying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    doesn’t appear China or Russia want any part of this.
    Honestly it seems like no one really cares this is happening, which is really surprising to me.

    Yeah sure countries are putting out statements condemning Israel, but overall the response is very muted. I think most of the world is just sick of Iran's shit and their closer allies like Russia and China probably consider Iran to be a liability at this point.

    I'm sure Trump being president actually probably helps Israel in this situation too. Everyone in the world is too busy worrying about Trump somehow being a king to worry about Israel bombing Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Honestly it seems like no one really cares this is happening, which is really surprising to me.

    Yeah sure countries are putting out statements condemning Israel, but overall the response is very muted. I think most of the world is just sick of Iran's shit and their closer allies like Russia and China probably consider Iran to be a liability at this point.

    I'm sure Trump being president actually probably helps Israel in this situation too. Everyone in the world is too busy worrying about Trump somehow being a king to worry about Israel bombing Iran.
    Russia is too busy in a war that legitimately should have been over in a week or two.

    China is no doubt helping them with weapons and defense systems.. all under the radar with them saying "No, we're not helping them in any way"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Honestly it seems like no one really cares this is happening, which is really surprising to me.

    Yeah sure countries are putting out statements condemning Israel, but overall the response is very muted. I think most of the world is just sick of Iran's shit and their closer allies like Russia and China probably consider Iran to be a liability at this point.

    I'm sure Trump being president actually probably helps Israel in this situation too. Everyone in the world is too busy worrying about Trump somehow being a king to worry about Israel bombing Iran.
    For Russia, I think they are watching their weapons getting their shit kicked in and are very worried. Just like the shit in Ukraine, they are learning that their equipment isn't nearly as good as they thought it was, they can't field enough of it and that their tactics are shit and the west would in fact, despite the propaganda, kick their shit in with not much effort if they went at it with Europe or the US. It's hard to learn that you aren't really even a near peer power much less no longer a super power. Patton and MacArther were right, we likely should have gone after them a long time ago to save lives.

    For China, they are saving up for their own war and don't want to draw too much attention to themselves. I also think their analysts are looking at what a few hundred 4th and 5th generation western fighter bombers are doing with impunity. They don't have enough J-20 and J-35 to really be a threat to an American carrier group much less a real effort from America. They have missiles, sure, our air defense has shown that they aren't really as much of a threat as people thought they might be. Not to mention, they have never tracked a US sub and every one of their major ships is being tailed every time it puts to sea.

    Like the Gulf war, like the US shooting down a satellite for "safety reasons", like a lot of other things around the world, we are showing the rest of the world our old, out dated toys and the fact they can't even keep up with them so maybe, they should try talking rather than fighting.

    I agree that the whole world is tired of the Middle East bullshit. One of the best things the US can do to put an end to all that crap is to produce more oil and natural gas to sell to Europe and the rest of the world so the money in that part of the world dries up. Several of the countries there are moving off the petro-ecomony so they are prepared for less oil demand.

    I for one would LOVE to just start containment for the region. Don't buy anything from them, don't sell them anything remotely military, don't let anyone out for pretty much any reason and let them rot. It's my same opinion of most of Africa, Central America and so on. Make it so that if you attack an American, we kill you and anyone near you but cut off the rest of the world. We have our own minerals short of titanium, we should use those and tell the rest of the world to fuck off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    One of the best things the US can do to put an end to all that crap is to produce more oil and natural gas to sell to Europe and the rest of the world so the money in that part of the world dries up. Several of the countries there are moving off the petro-ecomony so they are prepared for less oil demand.
    Or we could move away from dirty energy that is polluting/harming our atmosphere/ecosystems/populations by investing in clean energy that is unlimited, cheaper, and less harmful to our planet to harvest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    Or we could move away from dirty energy that is polluting/harming our atmosphere/ecosystems/populations by investing in clean energy that is unlimited, cheaper, and less harmful to our planet to harvest.


    I know you still won't get it.. but spend the 3 minutes it takes to learn all about the "clean energy" you champion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    Or we could move away from dirty energy that is polluting/harming our atmosphere/ecosystems/populations by investing in clean energy that is unlimited, cheaper, and less harmful to our planet to harvest.
    Man, after Democrats told you then world was gonna end a couple of years ago you idiots are still pushing this "We're all gonna die unless we change our ways!!1!!" Do you ever get tired of being a useful idiot?

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