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    Oh he mad.

    I’ll give credit to Gavin Newsom that at least he is transparent about his position and seeks to implement his draconian firearm restrictions through the proper legal means of a constitutional amendment. It’s still questionable since the Bill of Rights recognizes inalienable rights given by God that predate government, but I respect that approach a lot more than Michelle Lujan Grisham attempting to suspend rights because of an executive declared health emergency.

    https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/stat...83651159298416
    BREAKING: California's high-capacity magazine ban was just STRUCK DOWN by Judge Benitez, an extremist, right-wing zealot with no regard to human life.

    Wake up, America.

    Our gun safety laws will continue to be thrown out by NRA-owned federal judges until we pass a Constitutional Amendment to protect our kids and end the gun violence epidemic in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Oh he mad.

    I’ll give credit to Gavin Newsom that at least he is transparent about his position and seeks to implement his draconian firearm restrictions through the proper legal means of a constitutional amendment. It’s still questionable since the Bill of Rights recognizes inalienable rights given by God that predate government, but I respect that approach a lot more than Michelle Lujan Grisham attempting to suspend rights because of an executive declared health emergency.

    https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/stat...83651159298416
    Gavin Newsom is a slimy little greaseball and has been groomed his entire life to suckle on the tit of Big Government.
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    Besides, Republicans also block abstinence and contraceptives anyway.
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    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

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    You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it. (This was the excuse he came up with when he was called out for a really stupid post)
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    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Gavin Newsom is a slimy little greaseball and has been groomed his entire life to suckle on the tit of Big Government.
    Oh I totally agree.

    I’m just saying at least he owns it and doesn’t hide behind “I support the 2nd amendment, but…”. Small distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Oh I totally agree.

    I’m just saying at least he owns it and doesn’t hide behind “I support the 2nd amendment, but…”. Small distinction.
    So he's not Soykerning it up... being a mealy-mouth little bitch.

    I can agree with that... He's still a scumbag slimeball though.
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    Besides, Republicans also block abstinence and contraceptives anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seran-the Current Retard Champion View Post
    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAFT View Post
    You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it. (This was the excuse he came up with when he was called out for a really stupid post)
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    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    I can agree with that... He's still a scumbag slimeball though.
    Isn't that sort of like saying water is wet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kutter View Post
    Isn't that sort of like saying water is wet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran-the Current Retard Champion View Post
    Besides, Republicans also block abstinence and contraceptives anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seran-the Current Retard Champion View Post
    Regulating firearms to keep them out of the hands of criminals, the unhinged, etc. meets the first test of the 2nd amendment, 'well-regulated'.

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAFT View Post
    You show me a video of me typing that and Ill admit it. (This was the excuse he came up with when he was called out for a really stupid post)
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    3 million more popular votes. I'd say the numbers speak for themselves. Gerrymandering won for Trump.

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    I totally take back that small compliment I paid to Newsom about pursuing his tyranny through the legal means of change vs openly attacking the U.S. Constitution he swore to uphold and protect. If California wasn’t oppressive enough for you already:

    Gov. Newsom Signs 11% Excise Tax on Guns, Describes It as a 'Sin Tax'
    https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendm...t-sin-tax/amp/

    Edit: Before Seran or some other retard asks me how this is defying our Constitution…. It’s very simple. You cannot tax a right. You want to pay a tax to express your free speech? How about paying for due process? Who is in favor to pay a tax to avoid cruel and unusual punishment by government? You get the idea.
    Last edited by Suppressed Poet; 09-26-2023 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Before Seran or some other retard asks me how this is defying our Constitution…. It’s very simple. You cannot tax a right. You want to pay a tax to express your free speech? How about paying for due process? Who is in favor to pay a tax to avoid cruel and unusual punishment by government? You get the idea.
    Seems in line with the exorbitant taxes heaped on tobacco products over the years supposedly in an attempt to make them less appealing. Or... taxes on alcohol, or even taxes applied to sex work in NV, or legal weed in Colorado. How is this one thing uniquely immune to such taxation you've not previously objected to? Do these other taxes not defy our constitution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaalizmo View Post
    Seems in line with the exorbitant taxes heaped on tobacco products over the years supposedly in an attempt to make them less appealing. Or... taxes on alcohol, or even taxes applied to sex work in NV, or legal weed in Colorado. How is this one thing uniquely immune to such taxation you've not previously objected to? Do these other taxes not defy our constitution?
    Do we have a specific constitutional right to keep and bear alcohol, weed, or prostitution?

    Edit: A good argument one could make is that the federal government currently taxes firearms & ammunition before this California state bill was passed, and has done so for roughly 100+ years. I would counter to say that it has yet to be challenged in the courts, but quite certain it would not pass muster for the standard of the Bruen decision. Perhaps a good thing that will come out of this law and subsequent legal challenge is that this will set legal precedent on that.
    Last edited by Suppressed Poet; 09-27-2023 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    I totally take back that small compliment I paid to Newsom about pursuing his tyranny through the legal means of change vs openly attacking the U.S. Constitution he swore to uphold and protect. If California wasn’t oppressive enough for you already:

    Gov. Newsom Signs 11% Excise Tax on Guns, Describes It as a 'Sin Tax'
    https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendm...t-sin-tax/amp/

    Edit: Before Seran or some other retard asks me how this is defying our Constitution…. It’s very simple. You cannot tax a right. You want to pay a tax to express your free speech? How about paying for due process? Who is in favor to pay a tax to avoid cruel and unusual punishment by government? You get the idea.
    That's dumb. Sales taxes, excise taxes, import fees, registration fees, etc., almost all of which have been in place long before you were born. Your argument is as unfounded as it is stupid. There is no caveat to the Constitution that lists an exception to taxation if someone views a product as a 'right'. Your examples don't even come close to being representative of a simple 11% tax on firearms to fund school protection. Stop being an ultra conservative sheep.

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