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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A22SN

    Posts on social media say former U.S. President Donald Trump was “the first president in modern history” who “did not start a new war.” There have, however, been other U.S. presidents in modern history who did not enter the country into a new war. While defining military interventions can be difficult, Trump is not the only president not to start a new war during his administration.

    If we consider the Koran War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the war in Afghanistan and the Iraq War, Trump joins Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy and Dwight D. Eisenhower in not having officially brought the United States into a new war since 1945.

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    False. Just four of the 13 presidents in office between 1945 and 2020 -- Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush – officially brought the country into new full-scale wars (Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan, Iraq). If we also consider other military interventions, Carter and Ford join Trump in not starting or escalating existing foreign conflicts with U.S. military involvement.
    Trump significantly reduced troop presence in existing hotspots & set forth plans to withdraw, plus he did little to fund/aide/participate in foreign conflicts. You can say Reagan was peaceful through power, but that is discounting his aiding of anybody fighting communists. You can say Clinton was peaceful through decreasing military spending, but that would be discounting his orders to carpet bomb places like Baghdad & our involvement in hotspots like Bosnia & Somalia. Both the Bush presidents are out for obvious reasons. Obama increased our troop presence & operation in the GWOT zones. Biden has Ukraine. Carter had his own doctrine with aiding Afghanistan and the infamous Operation Eagle Claw.

    While it may be difficult to objectively quantify, I agree with the statement of Trump being the most peaceful president since Ford.

    Also…Biden is the dumbest president we have had since Gerald Ford, and that’s not counting his dementia & cognitive decline. George W Bush is third dumbest.
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