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[Parkbandit]

President Trump was the most peaceful time president since Gerald Ford.

[Suppressed Poet]

President Trump was the most peaceful time president since Gerald Ford.

Largely agree, but under his presidency he did continue the plan of annihilating the Islamic State & approved the operation that took out Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. That was a justifiable & good use of military force.

[Parkbandit]

Largely agree, but under his presidency he did continue the plan of annihilating the Islamic State & approved the operation that took out Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. That was a justifiable & good use of military force.

It's not a statement of an opinion.. it's a statement of fact.

Unless you have another President since Gerald Ford that was more peaceful?

[Parkbandit]

This is when Ashliana would chime in "BUT TEH DOOOOMSDAY CLOCK MOVED CLOSER TO MIDNIGHT WHICH MEANS HE WASN'T PEACEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and everyone with an IQ above 12 would laugh at him.

[~Rocktar~]

This is when Ashliana would chime in "BUT TEH DOOOOMSDAY CLOCK MOVED CLOSER TO MIDNIGHT WHICH MEANS HE WASN'T PEACEFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and everyone with an IQ above 12 would laugh at him.

^^ this is correct

[Suppressed Poet]

It's not a statement of an opinion.. it's a statement of fact.

Unless you have another President since Gerald Ford that was more peaceful?

Word. Not sure how peaceful is objectively quantified but I won’t argue against that statement.

[ClydeR]

President Trump was the most peaceful time president since Gerald Ford.

How do you define "peaceful"? If peaceful means not starting any new armed conflicts, then Trump was a peaceful president, as was Carter. It is easier to meet that definition of peaceful when a president is in office for just one term. If peaceful means not being involved in military conflicts, then Trump was not peaceful. Trump left office with the U.S. having boots on the ground in conflict zones in Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan. He did not remove the US from any of those conflicts while in office.

[Solkern]

Word. Not sure how peaceful is objectively quantified but I won’t argue against that statement.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A22SN

Posts on social media say former U.S. President Donald Trump was “the first president in modern history” who “did not start a new war.” There have, however, been other U.S. presidents in modern history who did not enter the country into a new war. While defining military interventions can be difficult, Trump is not the only president not to start a new war during his administration.

If we consider the Koran War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the war in Afghanistan and the Iraq War, Trump joins Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy and Dwight D. Eisenhower in not having officially brought the United States into a new war since 1945.

VERDICT
False. Just four of the 13 presidents in office between 1945 and 2020 -- Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush – officially brought the country into new full-scale wars (Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan, Iraq). If we also consider other military interventions, Carter and Ford join Trump in not starting or escalating existing foreign conflicts with U.S. military involvement.

[Suppressed Poet]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A22SN

Posts on social media say former U.S. President Donald Trump was “the first president in modern history” who “did not start a new war.” There have, however, been other U.S. presidents in modern history who did not enter the country into a new war. While defining military interventions can be difficult, Trump is not the only president not to start a new war during his administration.

If we consider the Koran War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the war in Afghanistan and the Iraq War, Trump joins Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy and Dwight D. Eisenhower in not having officially brought the United States into a new war since 1945.

VERDICT
False. Just four of the 13 presidents in office between 1945 and 2020 -- Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush – officially brought the country into new full-scale wars (Korea, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, Afghanistan, Iraq). If we also consider other military interventions, Carter and Ford join Trump in not starting or escalating existing foreign conflicts with U.S. military involvement.

Trump significantly reduced troop presence in existing hotspots & set forth plans to withdraw, plus he did little to fund/aide/participate in foreign conflicts. You can say Reagan was peaceful through power, but that is discounting his aiding of anybody fighting communists. You can say Clinton was peaceful through decreasing military spending, but that would be discounting his orders to carpet bomb places like Baghdad & our involvement in hotspots like Bosnia & Somalia. Both the Bush presidents are out for obvious reasons. Obama increased our troop presence & operation in the GWOT zones. Biden has Ukraine. Carter had his own doctrine with aiding Afghanistan and the infamous Operation Eagle Claw.

While it may be difficult to objectively quantify, I agree with the statement of Trump being the most peaceful president since Ford.

Also…Biden is the dumbest president we have had since Gerald Ford, and that’s not counting his dementia & cognitive decline. George W Bush is third dumbest.

[Solkern]

Trump significantly reduced troop presence in existing hotspots & set forth plans to withdraw, plus he did little to fund/aide/participate in foreign conflicts. You can say Reagan was peaceful through power, but that is discounting his aiding of anybody fighting communists. You can say Clinton was peaceful through decreasing military spending, but that would be discounting his orders to carpet bomb places like Baghdad & our involvement in hotspots like Bosnia & Somalia. Both the Bush presidents are out for obvious reasons. Obama increased our troop presence & operation in the GWOT zones. Biden has Ukraine. Carter had his own doctrine with aiding Afghanistan and the infamous Operation Eagle Claw.

While it may be difficult to objectively quantify, I agree with the statement of Trump being the most peaceful president since Ford.

Also…Biden is the dumbest president we have had since Gerald Ford, and that’s not counting his dementia & cognitive decline. George W Bush is third dumbest.

He escalated things in Syria multiple times and what not, or do those not count? He also brought Iran and America to the brink of war, that was only avoided due to secret communications behind Trump’s back, begging Iran not to respond. Does that not count?