Last edited by Parkbandit; 04-10-2018 at 04:16 PM.
This was a totally reasonable and substantive post. I agree- the evidence needs to have been incontrovertible.
Clarification though remember that Mueller's team made a criminal referral- they played no part in the warrant request process. (Rosenstein did though, apparently)
But your point about having a lot of evidence is a totally reasonable thing to expect. In this instance, the sheer number of DoJ officials (SDNY State Attorney, Wrey, Rosenstein, etc) who had to sign off on this plus the fact that a Federal Judge had to sign off on it tells us that there was a lot of damning evidence.
Under the circumstances, none of these people would have taken such an extreme approach without a really good reason- they understand the political implications of what just happened. A lot of people risked decades-long careers yesterday.
Re: FISA- I think FISA Courts are a terrible idea. BUT Carter Page had been under strong suspicion of being a Russian asset for years. Remember he was recruited by Russian spies, notified of that fact by the FBI, and then shortly afterwards was meeting with Russian government officials and giving anti-US/pro-Russian speeches. If there were ever a justification for a FISA Court, Carter Page would be it.
But he was also a part of an active US Presidential campaign- so the standard for a FISA warrant (which IS a high standard) would have been much higher than would typically be true of someone heavily suspected of being a Russian spy. FISA warrants also have to be renewed every 90 days- and you have to provide evidence from the previous 90 days of wiretapping to demonstrate probable cause for a renewal. You can't just keep submitting the same original evidence over and over again. Page's FISA warrant was renewed at least twice- which means there was good reason to wiretap him.
Last edited by time4fun; 04-10-2018 at 04:17 PM.