So let's clarify political affiliations. Anyone game?
(Everyone gets tacos because if that were a singular option all of you fuckers would opt for tacos.)
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So let's clarify political affiliations. Anyone game?
(Everyone gets tacos because if that were a singular option all of you fuckers would opt for tacos.)
Sure, you go first.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Start it off. We already have Jarvan. He's a registered democrat, identifies independent, votes both sides and wishes for a dictator.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Put me down for a big R.
Fuck. I made the damn thing anonymous. This isn't clarifying anything.
I would call myself a fiscal conservative but a social liberal.
I'm in favor of gay rights, I'm pro choice, I'm in favor of some stricter gun regulations but not some of the crazy ass shit some Democrats have been suggesting. I believe in universal healthcare. I believe in capital punishment, I think we should be doing more to save the planet, I think we should drill for more oil. I think we should legalize marijuana and focus more on treatment/rehabilitation for prisoners instead of punishment. I think we really need to focus on reducing our deficit. I think we should be more involved in shit like Iraq, Ukraine, Syria.
I don't like tacos.Quote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
Damn fucking skippy.. and when our evil alien overlords come. I will have you drawn and quartered while I help them conquer our world.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I am pro Gun control, Anti abortion but pro choice.. since ~I~ am not having the baby.. I really don't have any rights in the matter at all. I am for gay rights.. they deserve to have 50% of their shit taken from them too. I am also for Polygamy, whats good for one and all that crap. I think corporations have to have some rights.. but are not REALLY people. But our government is to fucking stupid to fix our shit. (same with marriage... get the fuck out of the marriage business and consider all of them civil unions.. let churches do marriages)
I am for a safety net for those that need it, and LONG ass jail time for those that abuse it... (with manual labor). I wouldn't mind universal health care.. if we actually cured things and didn't cost tens of thousands of dollars to just find out you have a hang nail. (yes some hyperbole)
I think we should tell the UN to fuck off. I think there should be Term limits. I think there should be strict limits on campaign spending. Airways are public... make the price of using them free airtime equally to both parties. (limited airtime) I don't think we have the right to just invade another country... unless there is a potential threat to us. I also don't think we can ever second guess shit. (If Clinton had done his job there may not have been a 9/11 for example.. also if we had finished the Gulf war.. there wouldn't have been an Iraq war)
I think people should get paid a reasonable wage for reasonable work. I do not think the government can dictate how much that rate is. I think we need to stop spending money like it's water. We are running out of both.
I also think that both parties are fucked up in the head. Dems want to spend money like it's no tomorrow on social programs.. and have repeatedly said that the deficit and debt don't matter at all... yet they want to tax the job creators more and more. Which makes no sense at all. if the deficit doesn't matter.. Republicans want to spend more and more money on the War machine... but don't want to pay for it. They cry about the deficit and debt.. but are not willing to do hat needs to be done to resolve it.
As for the War machine... we need it. We need MORE of it. China is catching up.. Russia can still destroy the world 5 times over.... and nuke Mars. Iran supposedly copied our drone tech. Iran is about to have nukes.. North Korea has nukes.. and is getting close to a missile that can reach us territories. Russia is looking to reform it's empire. And you just KNOW Germany is itching to start something again. The world hates us.. there are a lot of reasons why. The reasons don't matter. If we don't maintain a "Fuck with us and we will destroy you" attitude and ability.. we are doomed.
Also.. Cwolff is a dick.
Fuck off, it was my first poll! hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
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Originally Posted by Jarvan
But how do I vote for tacos?
Basically the same except I don't believe capital punishment is effective (though I still support it in certain circumstances), and we shouldn't be involved the Middle East or directly involved in Ukraine. :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Read my above edit.. and I voted Other.
So.. what did Cwolff and Wayward vote?
Hey! You either agree with everything I believe in or you don't!Quote:
Originally Posted by Taernath
Independent. I don't know why wayward said this was an anonymous poll, I can see how people are voting :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Crunchy ground beef tacos!
Topless pics are a vote for tacos.Quote:
Originally Posted by leifastagsweed
Jarvan's Other. I think he really does favor a dictatorship! HAHA
I voted Independent, though registered as a Libertarian I've voted for both Democrats and Republicans in the past. I've thought about registering as one or the other just to vote in Primaries, but I can't bring myself to do it.
We currently elect our dictators.Quote:
Originally Posted by cwolff
I would just prefer a Dictator for life, saves money and controversy. That being said... if I worked FOR the dictator, I would likely usurp him. never understood how evil people stay in power... I mean.. your lackeys are EVIL.
You mean, everyone except you, Tg, and everyone else too lazy to vote, yet are the biggest whiners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Most people who claim they are "Independent" or "Other" generally vote either all Democrat or all Republican.
This poll is a farce and the tacos are stale.
I plugged myself as Independent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delcry
Usually vote Republican, but there are times that I vote Dem if I prefer the candidate/promises, and for state/local measures/bills that would be 'liberal'-ish.
I dunno, I think at the very least it shows that despite the bickering and conflicting views it shows a lot of folks here aren't very happy with the two main parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delcry
And the tacos... The tacos are on point.
I wonder how many dead people and children are voting in this poll.
Aren't we all just dead children on the inside?Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
Hard to do both those things....fighting wars costs quite a bit of money (I say this as a long term military person)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Now you see why I don't vote when I don't like the people running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Unless you are now claiming that I HAVE to vote. Besides, you bitch about climate change, and you don't do anything about it.
I don't necessarily mean being involved with troops on the ground. We must have millions of missiles here somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by caelric
We've got a couple of missiles, but....firing missiles around the world tends to get other nations upset. Other nations that have nukes, that is. Plus, in the history of modern warfare, exactly one war has been won via air power alone (and missiles are essentially air power), and that was the Bosnian conflict, and even that wasn't much of a win.
Kind off far off topic, so to bring it back on, I am for a strong military, and at the same time, I'm relatively libertarian in my views. Socially liberal (perfectly fine with sex, drugs, and rock and roll of all types, just not all of them are for me personnally), as the saying goes, and fiscally conservative. Too bad neither of the major parties is anywhere even close to that. The Republicans are socially conservative and fiscally liberal, while the democrats are socially liberal (as long as you are liberal according to their terms, god forbid you should want to own a firearm) and fiscally completely and totally wacko off the deep end of liberal.
I have tended not to vote lately, as I can't bring myself to vote for the lesser of two evils (and in this case, lesser is only relative, as I think both parties are pretty evil). Voted for McCain in the republican primaries a while back, and voted for him in the national election, but I knew he was likely not to win, and I didn't agree with him on a lot of the issues, although I disagreed more with Obama. Couldn't choke back the bile enough to vote for Romney, and certainly wasn't going to vote for Obama's second term. So, yeah, I am one of those folks that feel disenfranchised by the rigid two party system we have here in the US.
Much as I love my country (as evidenced by 25 years of military service and counting), I strongly dislike the current political system. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution.
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Originally Posted by Back
Do not bother ... Back is the queen of hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
If only there were some kind of ID requirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
This is basically me, minus the foreign wars part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
This is by far the most racist thing I've ever read in my life!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Also here: the body of Methais who is lying down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
EDIT: Just kidding. I'm too 1337 to get pwned
EDIT EDIT: Since today is poll day, vote here too or be a (non-homosexual) fag forever:
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...h-Parties-Suck
Wayward, you did not specify what type of tacos.... what type of democratic scheme are you trying to pull on me?
Tacos are racist because now everyone thinks we're all Mexicans.
If today is pole day, where are all the strippers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Oh I get it now, he is trying to buy the Hispanic vote... Go figure, independent my ass WAYWARD!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Call me Senor Enrique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I've never thought this about you before, but that's such a dumb move. Voluntary disenfranchisement is the epitome of cutting off your nose to spite your face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
It's all about realistic expectations. Could you as a third party candidate go run for President and win? No chance. Could you go run for some local office and win? Absolutely. Every journey starts with one step. Take over the local scene, then you can work on state, then you can work on federal. Swing for the fences and you'll just strike out.Quote:
Originally Posted by caelric
One key thing to realize is that most people aren't that dissatisfied with the two party system, because both parties are centrist. Their messages thus resonate with the juicy middle of the normal distribution. You can race out to either fringe a la the Tea Party, but doing so necessarily alienates the other fringe, not to mention a big chunk of the normals: any success won't be sustainable.
I demand votes for good ole American apple pie.
I am reliably anti-incumbent. I see little real difference in politicians - they all say what they think you want to hear to get re-elected.
In Virginia, we get a new Governor every four years and I've voted for more Dems (6) than Republicans (4).
LawledQuote:
Originally Posted by waywardgs
I chose other because other could be Tacos too!
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Originally Posted by Ardwen
I am a Democrat since y'all asked.
Well, I Do hate the HUMAN race, so call me a racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Interesting. Can you elaborate?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
And how do you feel about your mother?
You live in MA, we already knew that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobmuhthol
Well, if I am going to be racist, I just want to be the best racist I can be. Therefor I hate the entire human race. You all are smelly, ugly, funny looking, do stupid things, will believe anything, pick on each other, kill each other, rape each other, shit on the planet.. literally in some cases, and are all around disgusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
My mother is an angel for putting up with me for the 6 months I was Colicky.
Feel you, bro. Another question though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
Do you think you have psychic powers?
Er...ok? If there isn't a Libertarian candidate running for a certain position, I vote between the people who are running. This is almost always either a Democrat or a Republican, and since I have no allegiance to either party, I vote for the individual I like the best. Sometimes that's a Republican, and sometimes it's a Democrat. I'm sorry if you think that's dumb. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Nope. But the human mind is a lot more powerful then we understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Yet you seem to despise humans. You are human. Do you despise yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
LOL. You are seriously trying hard, aren't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Am I? Are you reading my mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarvan
The not registering to vote in primaries part; hence, voluntary disenfranchisement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
That would require me to register either Democrat or Republican. I can't bring myself to do that, because I'm neither of those things. Although there are times I would like to vote in a closed Primary, I can't simply switch parties on a whim. It would be at least dishonest, to myself most of all. It's not "disenfranchising" in the least. It would be no different than saying all Democrats are voluntarily disenfranchising themselves for not registering Republican, because they can't vote in the Republican Primary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Politics is all about dishonesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
I'd vote for a purple monkey if they would spend less than they took in.
~Zz
Well said. This is correct. Although it is fun to register democrat and vote against the more liberal idiots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Wouldn't listing oneself as an independent while simultaneously declaring themselves "anti-<insert party>" be you know...a total contradiction?
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You spelled douchebag wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Douchebag.
Let's talk about dumbass voters for a second.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw8WIia47WE
Vote for Hillary because it would be cool mannnnnn!
I wonder what cwolff's thoughts are on my previous post.
I predict he will completely ignore it.
Didn't they do the exact same thing with Obama? lol
I think my favorite response was "Oh...wow! I can't possibly answer what her greatest accomplishment was because there's just been so many. I mean wow! I'm overwhelmed at all that she's done!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
I paraphrased her answer slightly.
I also like the one who said we should elect Hilary because it would set an example for the entire world. Like, what? Isn't the US decades behind on electing female leaders?
Well, you just nailed why Obama was elected ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
So very sad it is about Hillary being a woman, or first female president, and zip on *merits* (again, just like how it happened for Obama).
Anyone with a microphone and camera can make people seem any way they want through editing. FOX does it all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
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Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Back
I can buy the argument that these types of videos usually just show the people that look stupid and ignore the ones where people were actually able to give good answers but...what?
That's not what you're saying...at least that's now what you typed. You're saying with just a camera and a microphone that anyone can make anyone look any way they want with "editing"? Like...we can edit footage in such a way as to...what are you saying?
You should stick to making your arguments on Youtube videos if that were the case, Back, then you could edit the videos in a way so it looks like you make sense.
Tolerance does not mean tolerating intolerance. It's intolerance that does not tolerate tolerance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
They get to vote in a primary. You get to vote in none. Standing on principle can be commendable, but that's not what this is. Democrat is literally defined as those people who are registered with the party. You don't get a lobotomy, you don't get sent to a re-education camp, you aren't compelled to support them in any way. It costs you nothing and doubles the impact of your vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Perhaps this will be my new quintessential example for rationalism vs. empiricism. It is inconceivable to me why you are crippling your voice this way.Obama was a Senator, Hilary was a Senator and Administrative Assistant of State. We're not talking about Robin Williams here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atlanteax
I think Latrin just admitted that him supposedly being a registered Republican doesn't mean jack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
It used to be a very common criticism of the Daily Show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
It means I get to vote twice every election. Party registration has never been identically correlated with ideology, for electors or electees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Sure if you're taking their comments out of context or if you're showing a clip of what someone said yesterday then a clip of what they said 20 years ago so it looks like they contradicted themselves but that's not what's happening in this video. Not even close. Not even in the same ballpark, heck not even on the same planet! Dare I say not even in the same galaxy? I dare say it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
That is another criticism of the Daily Show, but I'm referring specifically to editing interviews (including splicing in footage not recorded at the time) to make the target look bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
So are you saying that the people in that video really did know what Hillary's accomplishments were, but thanks to clever editing it made like they didn't have a clue, and also that only Fox does this editing you speak of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Who are some of these intolerant people you speak of? White people and Christians, but only if they're not liberals, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Daily Show criticism aside I'd like to hear how you think these interviews were edited in such a way to make these people look stupid. I'd also like to hear you explain that armed with just a camera, microphone and editing software one can make anyone seem any way they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
And...GO!
Anyone who doesn't agree with him. Duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
See above picture. lulzQuote:
Originally Posted by caelric
Actually, that's exactly what it means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
Take 10 hours of video asking people questions and edit out all the people who answer your questions intelligently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I'm sure that happened with this video. I'm just wondering how one would make the people they showed look stupid. They made themselves look stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkbandit
The key is to cut between the question you ask and the answer you're given. Modern one-on-one interviews always have two camera angles (one per person) so this doesn't look suspicious. It's even easier in mass interviews like these, where the questions are usually not shown on camera at all. Take the first person: how do you know she was asked what Secretary Clinton's accomplishments were? How do you know she wasn't asked if Secretary Clinton could become President?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
That's why the only video that can't be corrupted is universal surveillance: no cuts. All you need to do to see the context is press rewind. Let yourself see it one more time. Play. Come on, DJ, play that surveillance tape. You know that it turns me on.
I doubt you do. You take 100 adults, filter out the 70% that are normal.. another 25% that don't answer in a manner that is idiotic.. and boom.. you have your video showing how dumb every American is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
Except, like, sometimes they showed the interviewer asking the question with no cut between the question and the person looking dumbfounded and confused. Other times the person in their answer referenced the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I suppose it's true in the other cases you could say they used selective editing but that seems kind of silly to lie when they have so much entertainment value from the ones where no editing was required.
Believe what you want, bubbala.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tgo01
I will!Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Good. That's exactly what I want you to do. :)
A likely story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
I'm sorry you think honesty is such a trivial thing. For sake of argument, let's say I did decide to go one way or the other...which should I do? Whichever one I pick, there will still be a primary I can't vote in. Unless you're saying any net gain is good, regardless...which would be a fair point. Let's just say I'm too indecisive to pick a side so I'm happy sitting on the fence, and call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
All the editing in the world can't change that fat guy at the end saying Hillary did an exceptional job handling Benghazi.
Flip a coin! That's what I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thondalar
Got something against fences? Too good to sit on one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Latrinsorm
Too good by half!Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Five
Fat guy? Obesist!Quote:
Originally Posted by Methais
Wow. Who knew Methais was a weightist. I'm offended, and deeply disappointed to find out he's obviously a democrat and supporter of Mayor Doomberg's 16 oz cola rule, and by extension, Obama. Mind. Blown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Back
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Originally Posted by Wrathbringer