NFL players kneeling during National Anthem

[Tgo01]

You should all write your senators to try and stop Ajit Pai from being reconfirmed. Fuck this distraction bullshit.

He's a Republican minority, that's good enough for me.

[Androidpk]

Someone sounds jealous he doesn't grab as much young pussy as a 70 year old man.

And you sound like someone that thinks sexual assault is funny.

[drauz]

He's a Republican minority, that's good enough for me.

You have low standards. He is a piece of shit that is purposely is stacking the deck to gut net neutrality.

[Androidpk]

You have low standards.

His fawning over Trump didn't give that away already?

[Fortybox]

I love playing football but I hate watching the NFL.

This whole topic is stupid.

[Tgo01]

And you sound like someone that thinks sexual assault is funny.

Oh you're one of those people? Wow.


You have low standards.

Well yeah, I'm apparently a right hard liner.


His fawning over Trump didn't give that away already?

Today I learned not bashing someone over literally everything and at the same time nothing means I'm "fawning" over them.

You try a little too hard to come off as center, pk. Might want to try getting some principles and sticking to them.

[Parkbandit]

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[Parkbandit]

You try a little too hard to come off as center, pk. Might want to try getting some principles and sticking to them.

Center? He's more like bi-polar.

He went from a Rand Paul fanboi to feeling the Bern in like 2 seconds.

[drauz]

Well yeah, I'm apparently a right hard liner.


Trump could still pick the nomination so not likely to be a democrat, you could have your cake and eat it too.

[Tgo01]

Trump could still pick the nomination so not likely to be a democrat, you could have your cake and eat it too.

But it's an Indian Republican! It's like a unicorn! You don't just replace unicorns with old white horses!

[Ashliana]

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[drauz]

But it's an Indian Republican! It's like a unicorn! You don't just replace unicorns with old white horses!

I mean besides Dinesh...

Ajit is more like:

https://m.popkey.co/a844df/rbeA8.gif

[Androidpk]

Oh you're one of those people? Wow.



Well yeah, I'm apparently a right hard liner.



Today I learned not bashing someone over literally everything and at the same time nothing means I'm "fawning" over them.

You try a little too hard to come off as center, pk. Might want to try getting some principles and sticking to them.

Says the person with no principles.

[Androidpk]

Center? He's more like bi-polar.

He went from a Rand Paul fanboi to feeling the Bern in like 2 seconds.

I like both of them as politicians, your point is invalid.

[drauz]

I like both of them as politicians, your point is invalid.

They are polar opposites of each other, I think that's the point. Thinking they are good people is different from thinking they are good politicians.

[Androidpk]

Thinking they are good people is different from thinking they are good politicians.

Again, I like both of them as politicians.

[Tgo01]

Again, I like both of them as politicians.

"I like extreme right politicians and extreme left politicians, therefore I'm in the center!"

How does this even work? Didn't Ron Paul (and Rand Paul) want to shrink the government so small it could fix into a shoe box and Bernie Sanders wanted to increase the government so much the federal government would be responsible for 51% of all jobs in the US?

Ron Paul/Rand Paul wanted to lower taxes and shrink social programs, Bernie Sanders wanted to tax the rich 99% of their income and expand social programs to the likes of which the entire universe has never seen before?

The Pauls want to outlaw all abortions, Bernie Sanders was so "liberal" he probably would fight for a 7 day post birth abortion bill.

[drauz]

Again, I like both of them as politicians.

https://i.imgur.com/INaJTzI.gif

[Methais]

So only people who join the military or vote love their country? Hmm. Interesting perspective you got going on there.

Especially this guy!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/27/west-point-grad-condemned-for-pro-communist-photos-messages.html

[Methais]

I only use a bidet now so I would find me a bidet on said stranded island.

Do you have it turned up to fire hose strength though?

[Tgo01]

Do you have it turned up to fire hose strength though?

No, that hurts my poor little brown starfish.

[Parkbandit]

I like both of them as politicians, your point is invalid.

They are literally the opposite of each other.

Like Bi-Polar opposites.................

[ClydeR]

"I have so many friends that are owners and they're in a box," Trump told Fox News. "I mean, I've spoken to a couple of them, and they say, 'We are in a situation where we need to do something.' I think they're afraid of their players, if you want to know the truth, and I think it's disgraceful."

More... (http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/donald-trump-nfl-owners-afraid-of-their-players-health-care/index.html)


Why would anybody be afraid of a football player? If I were there, I'd walk right up to them and tell them to stand up or else!

[Methais]

Why would anybody be afraid of a football player? If I were there, I'd walk right up to them and tell them to stand up or else!

Or else what though? That's the important part.

[Fortybox]

Why would anybody be afraid of a football player? If I were there, I'd walk right up to them and tell them to stand up or else!

Wat?

[Androidpk]

Louisiana high school will kick students off team if they don’t stand for national anthem

A high school in northwest Louisiana will punish students with suspensions or removal from sports teams if they demonstrate during the national anthem.
Principal Waylon Bates of Parkway High School in Bossier Parish called such demonstrations a “disruption” in a letter wrote Thursday to students and parents.

This is a lawsuit just waiting to happen. ACLU has already issued them a warning. Someone should tell the principal to read up on West Virginia State Board of Education VS Barnette.

[Gelston]

Louisiana high school will kick students off team if they don’t stand for national anthem

A high school in northwest Louisiana will punish students with suspensions or removal from sports teams if they demonstrate during the national anthem.
Principal Waylon Bates of Parkway High School in Bossier Parish called such demonstrations a “disruption” in a letter wrote Thursday to students and parents.

This is a lawsuit just waiting to happen. ACLU has already issued them a warning. Someone should tell the principal to read up on West Virginia State Board of Education VS Barnette.




Actually, the Bossier Parish School Board passed something requiring students to stand for the anthem or face punishment. Parkway is simply accepting the policy loudly. This is the Parish right across the river from me.

[Tgo01]

This is a lawsuit just waiting to happen.

The school would win.

[Androidpk]

The school would win.

Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue. The school would most certainly lose.

[Gelston]

The school would win.

No it wouldn't.

[Tgo01]

Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue. The school would most certainly lose.

This particular issue? Source?


No it wouldn't.

Yes it would. This is an optional after school event that does not pertain to the educational environment. The only punishment they risk is being kicked off the football team, they aren't being suspended from school. Furthermore from what I have read they aren't requiring the students to place their hand over their hearts or recite the anthem, they are merely being told they must stand. I don't know what their original reasoning was for this, but the school can now argue that with the national controversy swirling around about this that the students are representing the school and therefore can choose to nip this shit in the bud.

[Gelston]

This particular issue? Source?



Yes it would. This is an optional after school event that does not pertain to the educational environment. The only punishment they risk is being kicked off the football team, they aren't being suspended from school. Furthermore from what I have read they aren't requiring the students to place their hand over their hearts or recite the anthem, they are merely being told they must stand. I don't know what their original reasoning was for this, but the school can now argue that with the national controversy swirling around about this that the students are representing the school and therefore can choose to nip this shit in the bud.

No, it isn't. Per the Supreme Court, schools can not take disciplinary measures against students who refuse to participate in the Pledge of Allegiance or the National Anthem. The School is part of the Government. The 1st Amendment specifically provides you protection against the Government when exercising your right to speech. Stop thinking like "ZOMG SO OFFENDED" and start thinking logically.

Here is a direct quote from one of the court justices

“Love of country must spring from willing hearts and free minds, inspired by a fair administration of wise laws enacted by the people's elected representatives within the bounds of express constitutional prohibitions,” the 6-3 majority opinion in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette states. “These laws must, to be consistent with the First Amendment, permit the widest toleration of conflicting viewpoints consistent with a society of free men."

[Tgo01]

No, it isn't. Per the Supreme Court, schools can not take disciplinary measures against students who refuse to participate in the Pledge of Allegiance or the National Anthem. The School is part of the Government. The 1st Amendment specifically provides you protection against the Government when exercising your right to speech. Stop thinking like "ZOMG SO OFFENDED" and start thinking logically.

Here is a direct quote from one of the court justices

“Love of country must spring from willing hearts and free minds, inspired by a fair administration of wise laws enacted by the people's elected representatives within the bounds of express constitutional prohibitions,” the 6-3 majority opinion in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette states. “These laws must, to be consistent with the First Amendment, permit the widest toleration of conflicting viewpoints consistent with a society of free men."

That's a case about forcing students to recite the pledge of allegiance or face disciplinary action. Again it would be one thing if schools were forcing students to recite the national anthem or place their hands over their hearts, but the courts would see nothing wrong with requiring students to stand during the anthem in this particular case. It's not about forcing them to be patriotic, it's about the school not wanting all of the negative publicity and public backlash from these little shits causing a scene.

[Gelston]

That's a case about forcing students to recite the pledge of allegiance or face disciplinary action. Again it would be one thing if schools were forcing students to recite the national anthem or place their hands over their hearts, but the courts would see nothing wrong with requiring students to stand during the anthem in this particular case. It's not about forcing them to be patriotic, it's about the school not wanting all of the negative publicity and public backlash from these little shits causing a scene.

It is the EXACT same issue. It will be straight up argued that the Supreme Court already ruled on this and the school loses. This is the EXACT purpose of the bill of rights, to protect people against the Government when executing their rights. The school and the school board is part of the Government. It doesn't matter what the school wants, it what the Constitution says is the rights of those students.

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution protected students from being forced to salute the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance in school. The Court's 6–3 decision, delivered by Justice Robert H. Jackson, is remembered for its forceful defense of free speech and constitutional rights generally as being placed "beyond the reach of majorities and officials."

How much fucking power do you want to allow the Government to have over your freedoms?

[Androidpk]

Tgo doesn't need facts, just his feelings.

[Gelston]

And by the way, the school not "wanting negative attention or public backlash"? That shit is already coming because of this letter they sent out. A random High School in Bossier City, Louisiana has made national headlines.

[Tgo01]

It is the EXACT same issue. It will be straight up argued that the Supreme Court already ruled on this and the school loses. This is the EXACT purpose of the bill of rights, to protect people against the Government when executing their rights. The school and the school board is part of the Government. It doesn't matter what the school wants, it what the Constitution says is the rights of those students.

The school already has a let of leeway when it comes to silence a student's free speech. If a valedictorian tried this shit during their speech the school would quickly put an end to that shit, and the courts have already ruled the school can do so. The courts would likewise rule this particular issue is okay too. I agree that requiring them to sing or place their hands over their hearts is too much. But requiring them to stand? No.


West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States holding that the Free Speech Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution protected students from being forced to salute the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance in school. The Court's 6–3 decision, delivered by Justice Robert H. Jackson, is remembered for its forceful defense of free speech and constitutional rights generally as being placed "beyond the reach of majorities and officials."

How much fucking power do you want to allow the Government to have over your freedoms?

And no one is being forced to salute the American flag, they are merely being required to stand. If a school can literally censor a school newspaper and the world hasn't ended yet then I don't think asking athletes to stand during the anthem is going to cause us to turn in Nazi Germany overnight.

[Tgo01]

And by the way, the school not "wanting negative attention or public backlash"? That shit is already coming because of this letter they sent out. A random High School in Bossier City, Louisiana has made national headlines.

That would have happened whether they sent out a letter saying all students must stand or if they sent out a letter saying the students can do whatever they wanted. The school wants to come down on a position and nip this shit in the bud before it comes the media feeding frenzy the NFL has become.

[Gelston]

And no one is being forced to salute the American flag, they are merely being required to stand. If a school can literally censor a school newspaper and the world hasn't ended yet then I don't think asking athletes to stand during the anthem is going to cause us to turn in Nazi Germany overnight.

You realize forcing them to do one action is equivalent to forcing them to do another action, with respect to decorum towards the flag, right? When this shit is shut the fuck down Tgo, I'm going to laugh at you. A lot, because you are very, very quick to surrender your rights to the Government.

[Gelston]

That would have happened whether they sent out a letter saying all students must stand or if they sent out a letter saying the students can do whatever they wanted. The school wants to come down on a position and nip this shit in the bud before it comes the media feeding frenzy the NFL has become.

Incorrect, Caddo Parish sent out a letter saying they can do what they want in response to Bossier Parish's decision. No one is talking about the Caddo Parish School Board's decision. Did you know kneeling at local football games wasn't even a fucking thing here? I bet it will be now. I hope every single motherfucker in Bossier kneels. This shit is how tyranny starts.

[Tgo01]

You realize forcing them to do one action is equivalent to forcing them to do another action, with respect to decorum towards the flag, right?

What?


When this shit is shut the fuck down Tgo, I'm going to laugh at you. A lot, because you are very, very quick to surrender your rights to the Government.

I said the schools would win, I didn't necessarily say I agree with their decision. Which I do, but I never said it. And when the supreme court backs me up I fully expect you to come on the LNet Dreavening channel and say "Dreaven is always right" twice a day for a month.

[Tgo01]

No one is talking about the Caddo Parish School Board's decision.

How do you know about it if no one is talking about it? And how do I now know about it? Checkmate.

[Gelston]

How do you know about it if no one is talking about it? And how do I now know about it? Checkmate.

Because I live in Caddo Parish? No major news sources are discussing it nationally.

[Gelston]

What?



I said the schools would win, I didn't necessarily say I agree with their decision. Which I do, but I never said it. And when the supreme court backs me up I fully expect you to come on the LNet Dreavening channel and say "Dreaven is always right" twice a day for a month.

The schools aren't going to win because this is blatantly unconstitutional.

Saluting is rendering honors to the flag. Standing for the anthem is rendering honors to the flag. That said, forcing someone to stand is forcing them to render honors to the flag. It is forced patriotism. You want that, move to North Korea. No one ever kneels during their anthem.

[Tgo01]

The schools aren't going to win because this is blatantly unconstitutional.

They will.


Saluting is rendering honors to the flag. Standing for the anthem is rendering honors to the flag. That said, forcing someone to stand is forcing them to render honors to the flag. It is forced patriotism. You want that, move to North Korea. No one ever kneels during their anthem.

If you want government censorship in a school newspaper move to North Korea. Oh wait, it already happens here in the states because the courts have ruled that sometimes it's more important for the school to maintain control for the good of the school and the learning environment. The schools will win this in court. Well, the supreme court. At this point I wouldn't trust many lower courts with judges now openly being partisan hacks.

[Gelston]

They will.



If you want government censorship in a school newspaper move to North Korea. Oh wait, it already happens here in the states because the courts have ruled that sometimes it's more important for the school to maintain control for the good of the school and the learning environment. The schools will win this in court. Well, the supreme court. At this point I wouldn't trust many lower courts with judges now openly being partisan hacks.

Except they won't. It won't even make it past the first court.

Another sweet quote from the Supreme Court case in question...

"The case is made difficult not because the principles of its decision are obscure but because the flag involved is our own. Nevertheless, we apply the limitations of the Constitution with no fear that freedom to be intellectually and spiritually diverse or even contrary will disintegrate the social organization. To believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies are voluntary and spontaneous instead of a compulsory routine is to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our institutions to free minds. We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. When they are so harmless to others or to the State as those we deal with here, the price is not too great. But freedom to differ is not limited to things that do not matter much. That would be a mere shadow of freedom. The test of its substance is the right to differ as to things that touch the heart of the existing order.

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us."

Also, the only case I can find about censoring of school newspapers and media... the school only won because it WASN'T the school who censored it. It was the student editors.

See also Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District which states: "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate." and at issue in Tinker was "based upon an urgent wish to avoid the controversy which might result from the expression, even by the silent symbol of armbands, of opposition to this Nation's part in the conflagration in Vietnam." The Court held that for school officials to justify censoring speech, they "must be able to show that [their] action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint," that the conduct that would "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school." The Court found that the actions of the Tinkers in wearing armbands did not cause disruption and held that their activity represented constitutionally protected symbolic speech.

Gee, the Supreme Court said the Black Armbands, which was a form of student protest, was just dandy, and that school can't trounce on a student's 1st Amendment rights just because it might bring controversy and unpleasantness.

[Tgo01]

Except they won't. It won't even make it past the first court.

If the lower court sides with the school like they should then I agree.

[Fortybox]

So many experts in this thread.

[Gelston]

If the lower court sides with the school like they should then I agree.

I edited and added a bunch of shit to my post. Go ahead and look at all the cool new supreme court cases I linked that says you're full of shit! :D

[Gelston]

So far though, there are two Supreme Court cases there saying 1. A student can not be compelled by threat of punishment to render honors to the flag and 2. a student's 1st Amendment protections do not end at the school house door.

[Tgo01]

So many experts in this thread.

I graduated from Google University.

[Tgo01]

Looks like the Broncos already felt the hit to their wallet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK1I3YzUEAE9HLs.jpg:large

[Fortybox]

Looks like the Broncos already felt the hit to their wallet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK1I3YzUEAE9HLs.jpg:large

It's not good for business, especially with Denver's consumer base.

[Gelston]

The game last night, the Bears and the Packers all stood.

[Tgo01]

The game last night, the Bears and the Packers all stood.

Were they linking arms like a bunch of homos?

[Wrathbringer]

Were they linking arms like a bunch of homos?

Hate speech. Reported. @whirlin do your job!

[Brathwringer]

Hate speech. Reported. @whirlin do your job!

This is retarded.

[Amerek]

The NFL is transphobic until they allow transgender cheerleaders.

[Tgo01]

Hate speech. Reported. @whirlin do your job!

:(


The NFL is transphobic until they allow transgender cheerleaders.

The NFL is sexist until they have a female linebacker.

[Tgo01]

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/female-high-school-quarterback-throws-td-1st-pass/story?id=49564020


A 16-year-old high school junior became the first female quarterback from her school, and possibly in the state of Florida, to throw a touchdown pass in a game.

Holly Neher, of Hollywood Hills High School in South Florida, threw a 42-yard touchdown pass Thursday in the fourth quarter of her team’s 21-7 loss to Hallandale High School.

Longest-working therapy dog at Seattle hospital retires

“I started jumping up and down. My teammates started jumping on me,” Holly told ABC News of the reaction. “Coaches were screaming from the sidelines. Everyone started hitting me on the helmet.”

Holly, the only girl on her school’s 50-member varsity team, was playing in her first-ever varsity game and threw the touchdown on the first pass attempt.

A spokesman for the Florida High School Athletic Associate (FHSAA) told ABC News the organization is not able to confirm that Holly was the first female high school player in the state to throw a touchdown pass but “believes it could be” a first.

Holly is only the second girl in the 51-year history of her 2,000-student high school to play on the varsity football team, according to the school's assistant principal Erin Brown.

"When she made that pass the whole crowd went wild and you could see the support from her teammates," Brown told ABC News. "We couldn't be more proud of our students."

The 5-foot-2 quarterback played on Hollywood Hills’ girls’ flag football team for two years before making the jump to tackle football this season.

“I wanted to continue playing the sport so I tried out for the team,” Holly said. “I knew that I was capable.”

Hollywood Hills Varsity Football coach Brandon Graham described Holly as having the “it” factor he looks for in successful quarterbacks.

“Whether it’s a female or male quarterback or a ninth or twelfth grader, you want someone who isn’t afraid to make a mistake and who knows they’re going to get yelled at from time to time,” Graham told ABC News. “There is something about her that is so inspiring for her teammates. They want to follow her.”

Holly said she had to “tune everything out” to control her nerves in the moment. When it comes to her future in football, the teenager will take anything that comes her way “with open arms.”

The teen also had a message for other kids watching her break a gender barrier in football.

“I hope that they all see how small how I am and no matter what mindset or color, race, size, gender, you can do anything you want,” she said.

I bet she stands for the anthem.

[~Rocktar~]

More TDs than Colin Kaepernick in his first NFL season.

[Tgo01]

More TDs than Colin Kaepernick in his first NFL season.

I laughed. But then I remembered it's racist to make fun of a black person so then I frowned.

[subzero]

Louisiana high school will kick students off team if they don’t stand for national anthem

A high school in northwest Louisiana will punish students with suspensions or removal from sports teams if they demonstrate during the national anthem.
Principal Waylon Bates of Parkway High School in Bossier Parish called such demonstrations a “disruption” in a letter wrote Thursday to students and parents.

This is a lawsuit just waiting to happen. ACLU has already issued them a warning. Someone should tell the principal to read up on West Virginia State Board of Education VS Barnette.




Playing sports is not a right anyone has. If an organization doesn't want you doing something during their event, don't do it or face the consequences. You're familiar with how this works... if a place doesn't want you to smoke weed, they can and will refuse employment or fire you if it's discovered while you've been employed. At least with these people wanting to protest and demonstrate, they can do that outside of the event all they want.

[subzero]

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/female-high-school-quarterback-throws-td-1st-pass/story?id=49564020



I bet she stands for the anthem.

That's cute. They put her in down 21-0 in the fourth. Wonder if she starts/started the next week.

Also... “I hope that they all see how small how I am and no matter what mindset or color, race, size, gender, you can do anything you want,” she said. That's nice, but, uh, you really can't do anything you want. At 5'2, it's physically impossible to play quarterback as the people around you get larger. Hard to see where you're going to throw to and then actually make a throw when you're dealing with linemen, defensive ends, and linebackers in front of you that are 6' and taller.


holy shit... 42 yards. I can barely throw 40 yards and I'm a full grown man who can bench 300 lbs. That's insane, must be a lot more skill involved in throwing a football than I thought.

Doesn't mean it was 42 through the air. It could have been a five yard pass that the receiver took the rest of the way.

[drauz]

Doesn't mean it was 42 through the air. It could have been a five yard pass that the receiver took the rest of the way.

The pass is in the link. Look like its about 15 yards from the goal line so its roughly 25 yards through the air and 15 yard run to the goal line.

[Methais]

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/female-high-school-quarterback-throws-td-1st-pass/story?id=49564020



I bet she stands for the anthem.


Longest-working therapy dog at Seattle hospital retires

I wanna know more about the dog.



A beloved volunteer employee of Seattle Children's Hospital has made his last rounds.

Abe, the hospital's first-ever therapy dog, had been a weekly fixture for the last 11 years.

“I always said he was born to be a therapy dog,” said Judith Bonifaci, Abe’s owner and trusted handler. “From the moment I met him, I could tell he was an old soul who had a special purpose in life.”

While most golden retrievers are certified when they are between 3 and 4 years old, Abe was one of the youngest ever to receive his certificate, earning the distinction at just 14 months old, according to the Seattle Children's Hospital blog.

Nurse returns to work at hospital she was treated at as a child with cancer

Kids headed to surgery at Atlanta hospital show off their 'comfort items'

Abe has started to experience some health problems and is finally hanging up his badge to spend the rest of his years relaxing at home.

“Abe has been a wonderful partner throughout the years,” said Bonifaci. “I will always treasure the beautiful memories that we’ve shared seeing patients together.”

Bonifaci will continue her rounds at Seattle Children's Hospital with her 2-year-old therapy dog, Jackie Robinson.

http://pulse.seattlechildrens.org/wp-content/uploads/01_Puppy-Abe-edited-1-245x300.jpg
http://pulse.seattlechildrens.org/wp-content/uploads/04_Abe-portrait-edited-1.jpg
http://pulse.seattlechildrens.org/wp-content/uploads/09_Abe-with-rehab-patient-2-768x508.jpg
http://pulse.seattlechildrens.org/wp-content/uploads/10_Abe-and-Judith-768x1022.jpg

http://pulse.seattlechildrens.org/seattle-childrens-longest-working-therapy-dog-bids-furwell-for-retirement/

Abe > us because dog

[Androidpk]

Playing sports is not a right anyone has. If an organization doesn't want you doing something during their event, don't do it or face the consequences. You're familiar with how this works... if a place doesn't want you to smoke weed, they can and will refuse employment or fire you if it's discovered while you've been employed. At least with these people wanting to protest and demonstrate, they can do that outside of the event all they want.

lolyou'redumb

[Pin]

Playing sports is not a right anyone has. If an organization doesn't want you doing something during their event, don't do it or face the consequences. You're familiar with how this works... if a place doesn't want you to smoke weed, they can and will refuse employment or fire you if it's discovered while you've been employed. At least with these people wanting to protest and demonstrate, they can do that outside of the event all they want.

Unless the high school is a private school, this would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[subzero]

So now the whole kneeling thing is being done under the guise of prayer and they're standing during the anthem. Cute. Just play football, fellas.


Unless the high school is a private school, this would be a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Ok, so the kid stays on the team. Does the coach have to play him or does every kid have to get equal playing time? If he has to play, that's fine. I'll put him in for the last few snaps in the fourth quarter if the game's over. Maybe I'll put him in when we receive kicks or punts. There's always a way around things. Fuck your lawsuit!

[Gelston]

BTW, no one in Bossier kneeled. This was never an issue until some retard in Bossier decided to make it one. No one here was kneeling.

[Parkbandit]

So now the whole kneeling thing is being done under the guise of prayer and they're standing during the anthem. Cute. Just play football, fellas.


I honestly have no issue with that.

[Tgo01]

I honestly have no issue with that.

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Pretend to be kneeling for prayer (because suddenly they are all religious), when really they are kneeling for the same reason as before.

It's better that they aren't kneeling during the anthem itself, but it would be nice if they would just play the game without dragging politics into it.

[Gelston]

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Pretend to be kneeling for prayer (because suddenly they are all religious), when really they are kneeling for the same reason as before.

It's better that they aren't kneeling during the anthem itself, but it would be nice if they would just play the game without dragging politics into it.

I want to have my cake and eat yours too.

[Tgo01]

I want to have my cake and eat yours too.

Typical capitalist.

[Androidpk]

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Pretend to be kneeling for prayer (because suddenly they are all religious), when really they are kneeling for the same reason as before.

It's better that they aren't kneeling during the anthem itself, but it would be nice if they would just play the game without dragging politics into it.

Why do you care, you don't even watch football.

[Tgo01]

Why do you care, you don't even watch football.

Why do you care if I care? You're not even me.

[Androidpk]

Asking a question doesn't imply caring.

[Tgo01]

Asking a question doesn't imply caring.

Why do you care enough to ask the question? You're not even me.

[Androidpk]

Simpleton can't even answer a simple question.

[Tgo01]

Simpleton can't even answer a simple question.

Just what I was thinking. Maybe you are me.

[Methais]

Asking a question doesn't imply caring.

Is this exclusive to questions? Does having an opinion on anything and everything automatically require caring about the subject? If so, please explain why in your response that probably won't actually happen.

[Tisket]

Why do you care, you don't even watch football.

Stupidest question ever.

I don't eat children for breakfast. Should I not care if my neighbor does?

[Ardwen]

as long as they are legally acquired children stay out of their business of course. Doesn't everyone know that?

[Androidpk]

Stupidest question ever.

I don't eat children for breakfast. Should I not care if my neighbor does?

Stupidest analogy ever.

[Methais]

Stupidest analogy ever.

Is someone required to care about something in order to have an opinion on it?

[Tisket]

Stupidest analogy ever.

I understand your desire to deflect but come on, you must be used to being the biggest idiot in any conversation by now, no?

[Androidpk]

I understand your desire to deflect but come on, you must be used to being the biggest idiot in any conversation by now, no?

As long as you're still around I'm not concerned.

[Methais]

As long as you're still around I'm not concerned.

Is someone required to care about something in order to have an opinion on it? It seems that you keep ACCIDENTALLY forgetting to answer this very simple question.

[Gelston]

I love this back and forth. "You're stupid!" "No, I'm not, you're stupid!"

[Tisket]

I love this back and forth. "You're stupid!" "No, I'm not, you're stupid!"

The politics folder would dry up without it. I'm just doing my part to keep it alive. I'm a giver.

[Methais]

Why do you care, you don't even watch football.


Why do you care if I care? You're not even me.


Asking a question doesn't imply caring.


Why do you care enough to ask the question? You're not even me.


Simpleton can't even answer a simple question.


Is this exclusive to questions? Does having an opinion on anything and everything automatically require caring about the subject? If so, please explain why in your response that probably won't actually happen.

<crickets>


Is someone required to care about something in order to have an opinion on it?

<more crickets>


Is someone required to care about something in order to have an opinion on it? It seems that you keep ACCIDENTALLY forgetting to answer this very simple question.

<even more crickets>


Simpleton can't even answer a simple question.

http://www.pmslweb.com/the-blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/15-stop-it-get-some-help-gif.gif

[subzero]

as long as they are legally acquired children stay out of their business of course. Doesn't everyone know that?

Unless they're "undocumented". Then they're fair game.

[Latrinsorm]

So now the whole kneeling thing is being done under the guise of prayer and they're standing during the anthem. Cute. Just play football, fellas.If you want politics out of football, stop playing the national anthem before games.

[subzero]

If you want politics out of football, stop playing the national anthem before games.

Not a problem in my book.

[Tgo01]

If you want politics out of football, stop playing the national anthem before games.

Maybe the problem is we have allowed the left to make the national anthem "political" in the first place.

[Methais]

If you want politics out of football, stop playing the national anthem before games.

Don't you ever disrespect Frank Drebin again you fuck!


https://youtu.be/-q5jxQ_oGpc

[Latrinsorm]

Maybe the problem is we have allowed the left to make the national anthem "political" in the first place.Whew, Terry. You have had some swings and misses on this forum but this has gotta be in the top five.

[Methais]

Whew, Terry. You have had some swings and misses on this forum but this has gotta be in the top five.

Replace "political" with "SJW issue."

[Latrinsorm]

Replace "political" with "SJW issue."The rhetoric of "stop doing politics!" is a lot stronger than "stop doing politics I personally disagree with!", that's why these people say the former rather than the latter.

Don't worry, Sub and I are writing our Congresspersons to take care of the matter. No more anthem, no more kneeling during the anthem, it's a win-win-win.

[Tgo01]

Whew, Terry. You have had some swings and misses on this forum but this has gotta be in the top five.

Troll.

[Latrinsorm]

Troll.Brother, you're the one claiming the anthem of a polity was ever not political. One can only stand back and admire such backbreaking mental gymnastics.

[Gelston]

Brother, you're the one claiming the anthem of a polity was ever not political. One can only stand back and admire such backbreaking mental gymnastics.

The United States is not a political entity. Learn what words mean.

[Methais]

The rhetoric of "stop doing politics!" is a lot stronger than "stop doing politics I personally disagree with!", that's why these people say the former rather than the latter.

Don't worry, Sub and I are writing our Congresspersons to take care of the matter. No more anthem, no more kneeling during the anthem, it's a win-win-win.

No it really is just a bunch of crybaby bullshit.

[Ashliana]

Troll.

He's not trolling. He's accurately depicting you as ignorant.


The United States is not a political entity. Learn what words mean.

Quoted for posterity as one of the most comical, unironic statements of cringe-inducing ignorance to ever come out of one of the board conservatives' mouths.

All nation states are polities, or political entities, my insanely deluded friend, and that includes the United States.

What's actually being discussed is the hooh-rah, military-worshipping style of patriotism that is frequently invoked on the right -- where the notion of the flag itself is venerated, but not the underlying values the flag represents -- and it's also absolutely political.

[Gelston]

He's not trolling. He's accurately depicting you as ignorant.



Quoted for posterity as one of the most comical, unironic statements of cringe-inducing ignorance to ever come out of one of the board conservatives' mouths.

All nation states are polities, or political entities, my insanely deluded friend, and that includes the United States.

What's actually being discussed is the hooh-rah, military-worshipping style of patriotism that is frequently invoked on the right -- where the notion of the flag itself is venerated, but not the underlying values the flag represents -- and it's also absolutely political.

Quote all you want, the US isn't a political entity. The Parties that make up the Government are. The US itself isn't. Unless you consider the entire US to be the Republican party.

[Ashliana]

Quote all you want, the US isn't a political entity. The Parties that make up the Government are. The US itself isn't. Unless you consider the entire US to be the Republican party.

This just in: You're using your own layperson's colloquial understanding of the word "political." You don't understand what a political entity is, and you're simultaneously trying to call Latrin out for not knowing what "words mean."

All nation states are polities (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/polity), or political entities. Read Aristotle.

You are an imbecile. Absolutely nobody is surprised that you're a Trump supporter -- you actually believe your totally made-up assertions are somehow MADE into reality simply by virtue of you making them.

[Gelston]

You are an imbecile. Absolutely nobody is surprised that you're a Trump supporter -- you actually believe your totally made-up assertions are somehow MADE into reality simply by virtue of you making them.

This is how we know you lost.

[Ashliana]

This is how we know you lost.

https://i.imgur.com/phpuvny.jpg

[Gelston]

You went straight to a long line of name-calling in the very second post of our little back and forth, so your opinion means next to nothing to me. This high ground is fucking awesome.

[Ashliana]

You went straight to a long line of name-calling in the very second post of our little back and forth, so your opinion means next to nothing to me. This high ground is fucking awesome.

Okay, little pidgeon.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/pigeon.jpg

Indignantly claiming you've got the "high ground" doesn't change the reality, which is that you, without a shred of irony or shame, tried to call out Latrin -- when, in reality, you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you're talking about. Which is kind of a defining feature of Trump supporters.

[Wrathbringer]

lol @ your rep

[Ashliana]

lol @ your rep

What's that? Wrathbringer couldn't muster up a substantive reply for the 20th consecutive time? Even with his mighty Mensa-level IQ? Oh. Better luck next time.

[Gelston]

What's that? Wrathbringer couldn't muster up a substantive reply for the 20th consecutive time? Even with his mighty Mensa-level IQ? Oh. Better luck next time.

Probably because you aren't worth seriously talking to, because you apparently enjoy flying into whiney rages.

Also, lol @your rep.

[Ashliana]

Probably because you aren't worth seriously talking to, because you apparently enjoy flying into whiney rages.

Also, lol @your rep.

"You aren't worth talking to, even as I continue to talk to you!" -- another unironic gem from Gelston.

Look, we get it, Gelston. You thought you had an opportunity to call Latrin out, then fell flat on your face. Hard. Now you're embarrassed, and you've switched to the "You simultaneously corrected me and insulted me! That means the former didn't happen!" strategy.

Nope. You were still cringe-inducingly incorrect, and what's more is that you did it with smug, self-righteous satisfaction -- too bad it turned out to be completely hollow, much like the rest of your house of cards of a mind, an autumn breeze away from total collapse.

[ClydeR]

If Trump or Pence is somewhere you don't want them to be, all you have to do is get 20 people out of 70,000 to kneel during the national anthem.

[Methais]

A broken clock is still right twice a day.

http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Political_entity.html
http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/political.htm

This thread triggered memories of physical map vs. political map from school and if I was old enough to wanna bang my teacher at the time I would have wanted to bang her.

[Gelston]

A broken clock is still right twice a day.

http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Political_entity.html
http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/infopage/political.htm

This thread triggered memories of physical map vs. political map from school and if I was old enough to wanna bang my teacher at the time I would have wanted to bang her.

Yeah, I accept that I had that wrong. Ashliana coming in and being a massive faggot is why I didn't say "Oh, my bad."

[Methais]

Yeah, I accept that I had that wrong. Ashliana coming in and being a massive faggot is why I didn't say "Oh, my bad."

That's pretty much expected anytime he posts regardless of who's right or wrong.

[Taernath]

Breaking: Gelston pwned by Ashliana

[Androidpk]

Breaking: Gelston pwned by Ashliana

Bigly

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/lol.gif

[Methais]

Did you find that gif in 1990?

[Parkbandit]

You are an imbecile.

Irony.


Absolutely nobody is surprised that you're a Trump supporter -- you actually believe your totally made-up assertions are somehow MADE into reality simply by virtue of you making them.

Ironyx100 from a Hillary supporter.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, I accept that I had that wrong. Ashliana coming in and being a massive faggot is why I didn't say "Oh, my bad."


OMG YOU CAN'T MAKE FUN OF IT LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

[Ashliana]

Irony.

You're one of the most consistently wrong board conservatives with near-always badly reasoned arguments. Absolutely no one is surprised that you're butthurt your fellow board Trump apologist got embarrassed.


Ironyx100 from a Hillary supporter.

Hillary wasn't a great candidate, but the depths to which America -- including you -- has lost, by electing Trump, should be obvious even to someone as cluelessly deluded as you. Have you glanced at the news in the last week? Or are you sticking to a steady diet of Limbaugh's radio show and Breitbart per usual? Oh.

[Methais]

You're one of the most consistently wrong board conservatives with near-always badly reasoned arguments. Absolutely no one is surprised that you're butthurt your fellow board Trump apologist got embarrassed.



Hillary wasn't a great candidate, but the depths to which America -- including you -- has lost, by electing Trump, should be obvious even to someone as cluelessly deluded as you. Have you glanced at the news in the last week? Or are you sticking to a steady diet of Limbaugh's radio show and Breitbart per usual? Oh.

You really think we'd be better off with Hillary running the show?

[Parkbandit]

You're one of the most consistently wrong board conservatives with near-always badly reasoned arguments. Absolutely no one is surprised that you're butthurt your fellow board Trump apologist got embarrassed.

Pointing out your stupidity has nothing to do with Trump, how gay you are, the price of tea in China or anything else.

Sorry.


Hillary wasn't a great candidate, but the depths to which America -- including you -- has lost, by electing Trump, should be obvious even to someone as cluelessly deluded as you. Have you glanced at the news in the last week? Or are you sticking to a steady diet of Limbaugh's radio show and Breitbart per usual? Oh.

I haven't heard of anyone here calling Trump a great candidate. He was probably my 15th choice on the Republican side. But he is still 100352q14231241232313 x better than Hillary would be.

And what have I specifically lost because I voted for Trump? Be specific and don't respond with your typical "OMG U CALLED ME GAY" bullshit. Specifically, what have I lost because I voted for Trump?

[Wrathbringer]

WAAAA I LOST!!! WAAAAAA WAAAAA WAAAAAA SUBSTANTIVE WAAAA WAAAAA I LOST!!!.

Get over it already. Trump won. Your ideologies were firmly rejected this past election cycle. Time to get over it. lol @ your rep.

[Latrinsorm]

Specifically, what have I lost because I voted for Trump?Obamacare reform.
Oh no wait, I forgot you were attributing healthcare to the Senate now. Sorry: Pelosicare reform.
Tax reform.
Job growth.
Being able to watch an NFL game without hearing about protests for an hour.
International relations (i.e. NATO, immigration).
An effective government bureaucracy (i.e. FEMA).
Get over it already. Trump won. Your ideologies were firmly rejected this past election cycle. Time to get over it. lol @ your rep.Remember when Republicans lost seats in the Senate in the 2016 election, then repeatedly fell one vote short of passing various initiatives? For rejected ideologies they seem to be chugging along pretty well.

[Androidpk]

Specifically, what have I lost because I voted for Trump?

Your dignity.

[Parkbandit]

Your dignity.

That's hilarious, coming from you.

The "man" who complains that his girl roommate masturbates too loudly when he's sleeping on her couch for free.

Or the "man" that sleeps with a married woman and then steals her shit.

Serious question: Have you ever actually had dignity?

[Parkbandit]

Obamacare reform.
Oh no wait, I forgot you were attributing healthcare to the Senate now. Sorry: Pelosicare reform.
Tax reform.
Job growth.
Being able to watch an NFL game without hearing about protests for an hour.
International relations (i.e. NATO, immigration).
An effective government bureaucracy (i.e. FEMA).

I realize you are just a troll.. but I hope It's list is actually specific to what I lost.

[Androidpk]

Funny how these lies get bigger every time they're retold. You have so much in common with Trump.

lol at the salty rep from the snowflake :lol2:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/B_Oceander/Cry-Baby.gif

[Candor]

Being able to watch an NFL game without hearing about protests for an hour.

I consider that to be a benefit.

[Parkbandit]

Funny how these lies get bigger every time they're retold. You have so much in common with Trump.

Not really.


lol at the salty rep from the snowflake :lol2:


Almost as good as all the rep I used to get from you, prior to it being anonymous.

And suddenly, it stopped.

[Gelston]

Funny how these lies get bigger every time they're retold. You have so much in common with Trump.

lol at the salty rep from the snowflake :lol2:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx221/B_Oceander/Cry-Baby.gif

Lies or not, they don't seem to have grown from what the original accusations were.

[Androidpk]

Lies or not, they don't seem to have grown from what the original accusations were.

First time I've heard that I slept on her couch and didn't pay rent.

[Gelston]

First time I've heard that I slept on her couch and didn't pay rent.

Um,and you also complained about her masturbatory noises.

The sleeping with a married woman and stealing her GS shit was another person.

[Wrathbringer]

First time I've heard that I slept on her couch and didn't pay rent.

Why didn't you guys bang?

[Fortybox]

Um,and you also complained about her masturbatory noises.

The sleeping with a married woman and stealing her GS shit was another person.

I feel like I'm missing on some important context here...

[Androidpk]

Why didn't you guys bang?

She was saving herself for you.

[Gelston]

I feel like I'm missing on some important context here...

Pk used to live with another poster here and he complained about her masturbating noises through the wall or some shit. He later slept with another person that was on the forums, who was married, and then got into her GS account and jacked her shit. The first one I know is true, because Pk said it himself when he and her were having a back and forth on the boards, the second one, I don't have the full thing. I know the adultery occurred though.

And that is your catchup on as the PC turns.

[Androidpk]

I know the adultery occurred though.


Good thing this isn't the 1700's.

[Taernath]

I was gonna say, it was tagged but it looks like someone went through the tags and removed all the ones linking to forum drama.

[Fortybox]

Pk used to live with another poster here and he complained about her masturbating noises through the wall or some shit. He later slept with another person that was on the forums, who was married, and then got into her GS account and jacked her shit. The first one I know is true, because Pk said it himself when he and her were having a back and forth on the boards, the second one, I don't have the full thing. I know the adultery occurred though.

And that is your catchup on as the PC turns.

Sounds like a piece of garbage. Now I need forum links to the dramas.

[Gelston]

Good thing this isn't the 1700's.

Or the 1900s. It is actually still a felony is some states and I've seen people charged with it under the UCMJ. Usually isn't the main charge though.

[Parkbandit]

Good thing this isn't the 1700's.

Not against the law.

Still takes a piece of shit to do it though.

[Fortybox]

Not against the law.

Still takes a piece of shit to do it though.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/tGokBeqpHuSgE/giphy.gif

[Ashliana]

Pointing out your stupidity has nothing to do with Trump, how gay you are, the price of tea in China or anything else.

Sorry.

You didn't "point out" anything. You said "irony," and never backed it up with anything. That's kind of your shtick, and kind of the shtick of Trump supporters in general - the delusional belief that simply saying something somehow makes it true, in the face of mountains of evidence.

Sorry.


I haven't heard of anyone here calling Trump a great candidate. He was probably my 15th choice on the Republican side. But he is still 100352q14231241232313 x better than Hillary would be.

And what have I specifically lost because I voted for Trump? Be specific and don't respond with your typical "OMG U CALLED ME GAY" bullshit. Specifically, what have I lost because I voted for Trump?

Every American has lost. Trump's own cabinet, and own party, thinks he's an idiotic manchild who needs constant adult supervision. You put a president that casually threatens nuclear war and genocide on Twitter into office, who doesn't understand the bills his party is working on (or outright lies about them), who tells bald-faces lies -- especially to his Republican base -- on a near-daily basis. Who is constantly falling fat on his face with completely self-made controversies. Latrin's list is pretty on the nose.


Get over it already. Trump won. Your ideologies were firmly rejected this past election cycle. Time to get over it. lol @ your rep.

"Firmly rejected" by Trump's tremendous capture of 45.9% of the vote? Okay, buddy. And FYI, people are "getting over it" -- with apt criticism of your cheeto-in-chief. Election isn't the end game. But again, absolutely no one is surprised that a Trump supporter doesn't understand politics, much less civics.

[Fortybox]

You didn't "point out" anything. You said "irony," and never backed it up with anything. That's kind of your shtick, and kind of the shtick of Trump supporters in general - the delusional belief that simply saying something somehow makes it true, in the face of mountains of evidence.

Sorry.



Every American has lost. Trump's own cabinet, and own party, thinks he's an idiotic manchild who needs constant adult supervision. You put a president that casually threatens nuclear war and genocide on Twitter into office, who doesn't understand the bills his party is working on (or outright lies about them), who tells bald-faces lies -- especially to his Republican base -- on a near-daily basis. Who is constantly falling fat on his face with completely self-made controversies. Latrin's list is pretty on the nose.



"Firmly rejected" by Trump's tremendous capture of 45.9% of the vote? Okay, buddy. And FYI, people are "getting over it" -- with apt criticism of your cheeto-in-chief. Election isn't the end game. But again, absolutely no one is surprised that a Trump supporter doesn't understand politics, much less civics.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/s3HeuEH9Rrsis/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Specifically, what have I lost because I voted for Trump?


Every American has lost. Trump's own cabinet, and own party, thinks he's an idiotic manchild who needs constant adult supervision. You put a president that casually threatens nuclear war and genocide on Twitter into office, who doesn't understand the bills his party is working on (or outright lies about them), who tells bald-faces lies -- especially to his Republican base -- on a near-daily basis. Who is constantly falling fat on his face with completely self-made controversies. Latrin's list is pretty on the nose.

So, you can't name a single thing I have specifically lost.

Shocking.

Really.

[Androidpk]

Not against the law.

Still takes a piece of shit to do it though.

Says the raging bigot.

[Parkbandit]

I feel like I'm missing on some important context here...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?85551-Whither-msconstrew

Not sure where poor little Androidpk was complaining about Diethx masturbating too loudly or the one where Androidpk stole Msconstrew's GS account.. I'm sure someone can link them.

[Parkbandit]

Says the raging bigot.

That's a retarded opinion of yours based upon no facts and zero personal interaction.

You slept with a married woman by your own admission.

You have always been a piece of shit with no moral compass.

[Tgo01]

Says the raging bigot.

Androidpk just went full social justice warrior retard.

[Androidpk]

That's a retarded opinion of yours based upon no facts and zero personal interaction.

You slept with a married woman by your own admission.

You have always been a piece of shit with no moral compass.

No facts? Your posting history of racist/homophobic/transphobic comments and remarks speak for themselves.

[Fortybox]

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?85551-Whither-msconstrew

Not sure where poor little Androidpk was complaining about Diethx masturbating too loudly or the one where Androidpk stole Msconstrew's GS account.. I'm sure someone can link them.

Sweet. Can't wait to read.

[Methais]

Sounds like a piece of garbage. Now I need forum links to the dramas.

https://y.yarn.co/ffee5f54-a05f-4fe9-b1a3-5de6548cf153_text_hi.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx_wAYHiiD8

https://i.imgur.com/2PWF31j.gif

[Parkbandit]

No facts? Your posting history of racist/homophobic/transphobic comments and remarks speak for themselves.

When someone confronts you with something you want to shut down, call them something ending in "ist" or "ic".

You're conversion (for the time being) to full blown retarded liberal is now complete.

Please stay on that side of the political spectrum.. it's where you belong. Your dabble into Libertarianism wasn't believable.

[Ashliana]

You're conversion to



You're

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/screen-shot-2017-05-25-at-6-35-25-am-1495690657.png

[Androidpk]

When someone confronts you with something you want to shut down, call them something ending in "ist" or "ic".

You're conversion (for the time being) to full blown retarded liberal is now complete.

Please stay on that side of the political spectrum.. it's where you belong. Your dabble into Libertarianism wasn't believable.

Nice deflection.

[Parkbandit]

So, you can't name a single thing I have specifically lost.

Shocking.

Really.




https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/screen-shot-2017-05-25-at-6-35-25-am-1495690657.png

Not a shock.

At all.

[Parkbandit]

Nice deflection.

Thank you.

Nice job being a piece of shit human being.

[Tisket]

Nice deflection.

The irony of you accusing anyone else of this is blatantly ridiculous.

[Wrathbringer]

Thank you.

Nice job being a piece of shit human being.

Did you okay the usage of "piece of shit" from tgo? That's kind of his thing.

[Ashliana]

So, you can't name a single thing I have specifically lost.

Shocking.

Really.Not a shock.

At all.

Meanwhile, in reality:



Every American has lost. Trump's own cabinet, and own party, thinks he's an idiotic manchild who needs constant adult supervision. You put a president that casually threatens nuclear war and genocide on Twitter into office, who doesn't understand the bills his party is working on (or outright lies about them), who tells bald-faces lies -- especially to his Republican base -- on a near-daily basis. Who is constantly falling fat on his face with completely self-made controversies. Latrin's list is pretty on the nose.

What have I specifically lost because I voted for Trump? Be specific

... the depths to which America -- including you -- has lost, by electing Trump, should be obvious even to someone as cluelessly deluded as you.

You deliberately interpreted what I told you to mean that you must have "lost" something tangible, rather than intangible. Then, you ignored what I (and Latrin) subsequently told you. That's on you, my deluded friend.

You have a president who is currently in a war with his own secretary of state, demanding that they compare results from an IQ test, and who is in a war with the top Republican on the foreign relations committee, trying to denigrate him for being short.

You not understanding that you (and everyone) lost is comical, but seeing as how your lack of self-awareness is a defining aspect at this point, unsurprising.

[Wrathbringer]

Meanwhile, in reality:




You deliberately interpreted what I told you to mean that you must have "lost" something tangible, rather than intangible. Then, you ignored what I (and Latrin) subsequently told you. That's on you, my deluded friend.

You have a president who is currently in a war with his own secretary of state, demanding that they compare results from an IQ test, and who is in a war with the top Republican on the foreign relations committee, trying to denigrate him for being short.

You not understanding that you (and everyone) lost is comical, but seeing as how your lack of self-awareness is a defining aspect at this point, unsurprising.

WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH I LOST!!!!

[Ashliana]

WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH I LOST!!!!

You're losing harder than anyone else. :) The right is blowing their chance and demonstrating that they can't govern, even with control over all three branches of government. Meanwhile, demographics get less and less white with each passing year. Know what that means, don'tcha? That thing you fear most.

[Parkbandit]

Did you okay the usage of "piece of shit" from tgo? That's kind of his thing.

OK, I'm going to claim the term "human garbage".

[Gelston]

Looks like the NFL said no more kneeling. Lets see how this turns out.

[Parkbandit]

Meanwhile, in reality:

You deliberately interpreted what I told you to mean that you must have "lost" something tangible, rather than intangible. Then, you ignored what I (and Latrin) subsequently told you. That's on you, my deluded friend.

You have a president who is currently in a war with his own secretary of state, demanding that they compare results from an IQ test, and who is in a war with the top Republican on the foreign relations committee, trying to denigrate him for being short.

You not understanding that you (and everyone) lost is comical, but seeing as how your lack of self-awareness is a defining aspect at this point, unsurprising.

So, in your skewed view "reality".. I haven't lost anything.. except something a partisan dipshit like yourself wants to believe everyone lost.

If the election were held today, I would still HAPPILY cast my vote again for Trump. It's crazy fucks like you who made it even possible for him to become the 45th President of the United States.

From now on, I'm not going to tell you to stop crying, bitching, moaning, whining, complaining, flailing, etc... about the election results ELEVEN MONTHS LATER.. I'm simply going to thank you for getting him elected.

I thank you. Your nation thanks you. And more importantly, your President thanks you:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/4c/49/f44c49806fc26f78a706e6bbbf0ddfc0.gif

[Parkbandit]

Looks like the NFL said no more kneeling. Lets see how this turns out.

Money talks and bullshit walks.

[Parkbandit]

You're losing harder than anyone else. :) The right is blowing their chance and demonstrating that they can't govern, even with control over all three branches of government. Meanwhile, demographics get less and less white with each passing year. Know what that means, don'tcha? That thing you fear most.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/4c/49/f44c49806fc26f78a706e6bbbf0ddfc0.gif

[subzero]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000859541/article/goodell-issues-memo-to-teams-on-national-anthem

Goodell's memo to teams:


"We live in a country that can feel very divided. Sports, and especially the NFL, brings people together and lets them set aside those divisions, at least for a few hours. The current dispute over the National Anthem is threatening to erode the unifying power of our game, and is now dividing us, and our players, from many fans across the country.

"I'm very proud of our players and owners who have done the hard work over the past year to listen, understand and attempt to address the underlying issues within their communities. At our September committee meetings, we heard directly from several players about why these issues are so important to them and how we can support their work. And last week, we met with the leadership of the NFLPA and more players to advance the dialogue.

"Like many of our fans, we believe that everyone should stand for the National Anthem. It is an important moment in our game. We want to honor our flag and our country, and our fans expect that of us. We also care deeply about our players and respect their opinions and concerns about critical social issues. The controversy over the Anthem is a barrier to having honest conversations and making real progress on the underlying issues. We need to move past this controversy, and we want to do that together with our players.

"Building on many discussions with clubs and players, we have worked to develop a plan that we will review with you at next week's League meeting. This would include such elements as an in-season platform to promote the work of our players on these core issues, and that will help to promote positive change in our country. We want to ensure that any work at the League level is consistent with the work that each club is doing in its own community, and that we dedicate a platform that can enable these initiatives to succeed. Additionally, we will continue the unprecedented dialogue with our players.

"I expect and look forward to a full and open discussion of these issues when we meet next week in New York. Everyone involved in the game needs to come together on a path forward to continue to be a force for good within our communities, protect the game, and preserve our relationship with fans throughout the country. The NFL is at its best when we ourselves are unified. In that spirit, let's resolve that next week we will meet this challenge in a unified and positive way."

You might say, "Well, he's not forcing anyone to stand. They can still protest despite this 'memo'". And that's true. Sort of. For now. Players can be disciplined for conduct detrimental to the league and/or team. Looks like they're putting in the groundwork for that. I'm not sure how necessary that even is in order to make such a judgement, but there it is. Jerry Jones also said this week that he would bench players being 'disrespectful' to the flag.

Going forward, I think we can begin to expect to see players facing conduct discipline if this anthem stuff continues.

[Gelston]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000859541/article/goodell-issues-memo-to-teams-on-national-anthem

Goodell's memo to teams:



You might say, "Well, he's not forcing anyone to stand. They can still protest despite this 'memo'". And that's true. Sort of. For now. Players can be disciplined for conduct detrimental to the league and/or team. Looks like they're putting in the groundwork for that. I'm not sure how necessary that even is in order to make such a judgement, but there it is. Jerry Jones also said this week that he would bench players being 'disrespectful' to the flag.

Going forward, I think we can begin to expect to see players facing conduct discipline if this anthem stuff continues.

I'm curious what Jerry Jones would do if Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliot both knelt though.

[Parkbandit]

I'm curious what Jerry Jones would do if Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliot both knelt though.

As a NY Giant fan (as painful as that has been lately) I hope they do.. and Jerry follows through with his threats.

[subzero]

I'm curious what Jerry Jones would do if Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliot both knelt though.

He said it this Sunday. Not sure if it was before or after the game. I'd assume before, but I dunno. Also don't know who, if any, decided to take a knee, but both Dak and Zeke played.


As a NY Giant fan (as painful as that has been lately) I hope they do.. and Jerry follows through with his threats.

The Cowboys could play with their entire second and third string units and probably wipe out the receiver-less Giants this year.

[Gelston]

As a NY Giant fan (as painful as that has been lately) I hope they do.. and Jerry follows through with his threats.

Do the Giants even have any Wide Receivers left?

[subzero]

Do the Giants even have any Wide Receivers left?

They've got a couple ball boys and maybe can convert a TE or two?

[Candor]

I am not going to NFL games this year - I am expressing my views with my wallet. When these morons stop kneeling before the flag during the National Anthem, perhaps I'll start going to NFL games again. Maybe.

[Wrathbringer]

I am not going to NFL games this year - I am expressing my views with my wallet. When these morons stop kneeling before the flag during the National Anthem, perhaps I'll start going to NFL games again. Maybe.

Lol like you went to any anyway. Stay away, fascist. The nfl doesn't need you.

[Wrathbringer]

OK, I'm going to claim the term "human garbage".

LOL

[Androidpk]

Nice job being a piece of shit human being.

lol the irony

[Androidpk]

Looks like the NFL said no more kneeling. Lets see how this turns out.


https://i.redd.it/p3x14l3bf1rz.jpg

[Gelston]

https://i.redd.it/p3x14l3bf1rz.jpg

Except it is a company telling employees what to do, not the US Government forcing people to do something.

[Androidpk]

Except it is a company telling employees what to do, not the US Government forcing people to do something.

After Trump cried about it.

[Androidpk]

Former Bears star and coach Mike Ditka (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/mike-ditka-PESPT008495-topic.html), an adamant critic of National Football League (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/nfl-ORSPT000007-topic.html) players kneeling during the national anthem to protest racial discrimination, said Monday in a national radio interview that this country has been free of oppression for at least a century.“All of a sudden, it’s become a big deal now, about oppression,” Ditka told Jim Gray on Westwood One’s pregame show ahead of the Bears’ “Monday Night Football” loss to the Vikings (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/sports/football/minnesota-vikings-ORSPT000048-topic.html).

“There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of. Now maybe I’m not watching it as carefully as other people.”

[Tgo01]

After Trump cried about it.

I think your timeline of events is a bit skewed.

Trump "cried" about it, more players than ever before, and now coaches and owners, were kneeling alongside one another to protest Trump.

Then fans stopped watching, stopped attending games, burned their football memorabilia, stopped buying football merchandise, advertisers pulled out, THEN the NFL came out with this.

[subzero]

I think your timeline of events is a bit skewed.

Trump "cried" about it, more players than ever before, and now coaches and owners, were kneeling alongside one another to protest Trump.

Then fans stopped watching, stopped attending games, burned their football memorabilia, stopped buying football merchandise, advertisers pulled out, THEN the NFL came out with this.

You forgot to mention the loud boos the teams got from the people at the game when they did this, too.

[Methais]

Meanwhile, in reality:




You deliberately interpreted what I told you to mean that you must have "lost" something tangible, rather than intangible. Then, you ignored what I (and Latrin) subsequently told you. That's on you, my deluded friend.

You have a president who is currently in a war with his own secretary of state, demanding that they compare results from an IQ test, and who is in a war with the top Republican on the foreign relations committee, trying to denigrate him for being short.

You not understanding that you (and everyone) lost is comical, but seeing as how your lack of self-awareness is a defining aspect at this point, unsurprising.

I can't take any of your posts seriously without bolds, italics, underlines, and the word substantive.

Really thought you were better than this man. I thought I knew you.


You're losing harder than anyone else. :) The right is blowing their chance and demonstrating that they can't govern, even with control over all three branches of government. Meanwhile, demographics get less and less white with each passing year. Know what that means, don'tcha? That thing you fear most.

THE JUDEAN PEOPLE'S FRONT?!?!?!?!?

[Methais]

https://i.redd.it/p3x14l3bf1rz.jpg

That's the free market at work. Which is a pretty important part of this free country.


After Trump cried about it.

You mean after their ratings took a giant shit. NFL doesn't give a fuck about Trump nearly as much as it gives a fuck about money. Stop being so full of shit. Or at least get good at it.

[drauz]

https://i.redd.it/p3x14l3bf1rz.jpg

So you have a problem when people get fired for their tweets, right?

[Fortybox]

After Trump cried about it.

Oh the hypocrisy in that statement.

[Androidpk]

So you have a problem when people get fired for their tweets, right?

Trump hasn't been fired yet.

[drauz]

Trump hasn't been fired yet.

I'll take that as a no.

[Androidpk]

I'll take that as a no.

I'll take it as I'm not sure what you're trying to get at by comparing the two.

[drauz]

I'll take it as I'm not sure what you're trying to get at by comparing the two.

And you need that to answer the questions...because? Would your answer change if you knew the context?

[Androidpk]

Would your answer change if you knew the context?

Possibly, all depends on the situation.

[drauz]

Possibly, all depends on the situation.

It shouldn't. Never mind, theres no point.

[Androidpk]

It shouldn't. Never mind, theres no point.

Do YOU even know what you're trying to get at here?

[drauz]

Do YOU even know what you're trying to get at here?

Yes. Companies have the right to protect their image. Working for them is a privilege not a right. You want to protest on your own time, go for it.

[Androidpk]

Yes. Companies have the right to protect their image. Working for them is a privilege not a right. You want to protest on your own time, go for it.

You don't want them to protest, fine, I can understand that. Forcing them to stand for that national anthem isn't the answer though.

[drauz]

You don't want them to protest, fine, I can understand that. Forcing them to stand for that national anthem isn't the answer though.

They aren't forced to stand, they can quit. They have an option.

[Tgo01]

You don't want them to protest, fine, I can understand that. Forcing them to stand for that national anthem isn't the answer though.

Forcing employees to not talk about their religion to customers is wrong, they can't force someone to keep quiet about their religion.

[drauz]

Forcing employees to not talk about their religion to customers is wrong, they can't force someone to keep quiet about their religion.

A company can tell you exactly what you can and cannot talk about in the workplace.

[Tgo01]

A company can tell you exactly what you can and cannot talk about in the workplace.

You lie!

[Gelston]

A company can tell you exactly what you can and cannot talk about in the workplace.

Shit, they fire people for stupid shit said on twitter and FB.

[Fortybox]

You don't want them to protest, fine, I can understand that. Forcing them to stand for that national anthem isn't the answer though.

They aren't being forced. Are you really this dense? This is like time4fun dense.

I am assuming you have a job (BIG assumption). Go ahead and violate your workplace policy. See how that goes.

[Methais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUZ8jFw5vN4

I didn't know slaves were being paid millions of dollars. Maybe if they were paid billions instead they'd stop whining like little cunts.

[Wrathbringer]

bbbbbbbbbut WHITE PEOPLE!!!1111

[Gelston]

bbbbbbbbbut WHITE PEOPLE!!!1111

Get killed more by cops than any other race!

[Wrathbringer]

Get killed more by cops than any other race!

THAT'S RACIST!!!!!!!1111eleventy

[Tisket]

Get killed more by cops than any other race!

While that is a true statement by raw numbers, it's still a statistically dubious statement when you factor in the percentage of blacks vs whites in the US population. Blacks are killed at a disproportionate rate compared to whites.

Just saying.

[Tisket]

Listen, I get that people get tired of hearing about race issues and want to push back but come on, there has to come a point where one does not dismiss clear evidence just because that evidence points to something you'd rather not believe. We are not ostriches and acting like one only makes one look defensive.

[Tisket]

The problem Tisket is that you're thinking these people are trying come down with a fair judgement on the matter while what they are really doing is defending and extenuating the "good times" as far as it'll go.

I seriously believe Gelston is a closet homosexual, he may be married but the way he writes, the passive aggressive bitching, and how he's still dicking around with bullshit video games/man baby leads me to believe without a doubt that he would enjoy giving fellatio to another man.

Nobody gives a shit what you believe so fuck off.

[Methais]

While that is a true statement by raw numbers, it's still a statistically dubious statement when you factor in the percentage of blacks vs whites in the US population. Blacks are killed at a disproportionate rate compared to whites.

Just saying.

Just like their crime rate.

[Wrathbringer]

Nobody gives a shit what you believe so fuck off.

Lol this is correct.

[Gelston]

While that is a true statement by raw numbers, it's still a statistically dubious statement when you factor in the percentage of blacks vs whites in the US population. Blacks are killed at a disproportionate rate compared to whites.

Just saying.

They're killed more by blacks than anyone else.

And actually, they have a higher crime rate too, by statistics too. I think we should take race completely out of the numbers and look at the data by social class/income and then see how that comes out.

[Tisket]

They're killed more by blacks than anyone else.

And actually, they have a higher crime rate too, by statistics too. I think we should take race completely out of the numbers and look at the data by social class/income and then see how that comes out.

And you believe that race plays no role in income?

[Gelston]

And you believe that race plays no role in income?

I don't think black people are the only poor people in the United States.

[Tisket]

I don't think black people are the only poor people in the United States.

I'm not trying to change your, or anyone else's mind however, I fundamentally disagree with you and my other conservative friends on this issue.

Now I'm headed off to spend some money at the mall. Ciao!

[Methais]

No where near Italic Crime rates though. If they aren't pimping out their women to a bunch of MENA immigrants they're sure as heck disappointments in life still clinging to some bullshit video game.

https://i.redd.it/ros2mt6hrbay.jpg

What video game? GS isn't a video game.

At least your raging boner for me and your desire to get any dude you can here to have gay sex with you (with you being the bottom of course) makes you kind of entertaining. Like that fat slob kid that smelled really bad that everyone had in their class in elementary school. As well as the fact that you think "Italic" bothers me when it's basically the equivalent of a Bob Saget joke from when he hosted America's Funniest Home Videos on the creativity scale.

What a mook. We don't pay mooks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vw8t4O9JQM

[Taernath]

Now I'm headed off to spend some money at the mall. Ciao!

She's a tax and spend liberal!

[Gelston]

I'm not trying to change your, or anyone else's mind however, I fundamentally disagree with you and my other conservative friends on this issue.

Now I'm headed off to spend some money at the mall. Ciao!

I'm not trying to argue why or why someone is or isn't in a certain income level. I'm saying to judge crime by the income level first.

[Methais]

I'm not trying to argue why or why someone is or isn't in a certain income level. I'm saying to judge crime by the income level first.

I see rich people run red lights and coast through stop signs all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gelston]

I see rich people run red lights and coast through stop signs all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think traffic crime is probably universal. Well, except for those people so rich they don't drive. Well, and people so poor they don't drive. Those sons a bitches between those two extremes though, fuck them.

[Methais]

Would it bother you if I were an Italic too?

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/surprised-cat-gif-1.gif

Wouldn't matter, everyone knows you're a wingding.

[Methais]

Last I've been to Rome the centro storico were filled with slightly less than obvious prostitutes. This was 11'/12', Italy was still getting hammered under austerity measures. It's beautiful, especially the women, but it could seriously do with some proper management.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do9KXid5vT0&app=desktop

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/51279093/thats-a-cool-story-bro-but-let-me-get-an-expert-on-cool-stories-down-here-so-i-know-what-im-dealing-.jpg


And wtf is a wingding?

The answer is here, but you'll need to translate it to find out:

❄︎♒︎♓︎⬧︎ ♓︎⬧︎ ⬥︎♓︎■︎♑︎♎︎♓︎■︎♑︎

[Methais]

Methais, my olive skinned buddy pal, I just wish you were you a female I could quickly rectify this impasse then.

��︎♏︎⧫︎♒︎♋︎♓︎⬧︎ ♓︎⬧︎ ♋︎ ♍︎●︎□︎⬧︎♏︎⧫︎ ⧫︎❒︎♋︎■︎⬧︎♑︎♏︎■︎♎︎♏︎❒︎

I don't know who ??ethais is, but that sounds like some wishful thinking on your part.

According to Twitter, today is "National Coming Out Day." Which means today is a day for both Nickelback fans and you. Which I know is redundant but still.

[Latrinsorm]

I realize you are just a troll.. but I hope It's list is actually specific to what I lost.You would have gotten all of them with President Clinton, and you aren't getting them with President Trump. Hence, you lost them.
Almost as good as all the rep I used to get from you, prior to it being anonymous. And suddenly, it stopped.The best PB burns remain the PB self-burns.
I consider that to be a benefit.That's fine, I'm pro-BLM too. PB is definitely anti-BLM though, so it counts as something he lost.
Then fans stopped watching, stopped attending games, burned their football memorabilia, stopped buying football merchandise, advertisers pulled out, THEN the NFL came out with this.Which ones?
I'm not trying to argue why or why someone is or isn't in a certain income level. I'm saying to judge crime by the income level first.This analysis has been done (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-police-have-killed-americans-in-2015/), and there is evidence of institutional racism at all levels of income in the sample.

[Gelston]

This analysis has been done (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-police-have-killed-americans-in-2015/), and there is evidence of institutional racism at all levels of income in the sample.

What that list showed me is there are a lot of white people being killed by police in majority black neighborhoods.

[drauz]

I'm not trying to change your, or anyone else's mind however, I fundamentally disagree with you and my other conservative friends on this issue.

Now I'm headed off to spend some money at the mall. Ciao!

I think what Gelston is getting at is, disproportionate to what? If you just look at race then yes you could reach that conclusion. If you look at reported crimes then you would find that they are statistically under represented. 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murders in the US.

[drauz]

and there is evidence of institutional racism at all levels of income in the sample.

Where is the evidence? Is there also institutional sexism?

[Tgo01]

I think what Gelston is getting at is, disproportionate to what? If you just look at race then yes you could reach that conclusion. If you look at reported crimes then you would find that they are statistically under represented. 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murders in the US.

Not to mention 43% of cop killers are black, which means blacks are much more likely to attack a police officer and pull a weapon on them which might explain some of why percentage/population wise blacks are killed more than whites.

The problem with this argument is people just look at raw numbers and arrive to the conclusion that cops are racist murderous thugs engaging in genocide (and being terrible at it considering they only manage to kill about 200 black people per year, even assuming they were all perfect little angels.)

People don't want to look at the specifics, like which race the cop was or which race the civilian was, who is more likely to attack and kill a police officer, were those civilians shot and killed pointing a weapon at the officer, were they trying to run the officer over with their car, were they reaching for the officer's weapon.

Because if we look at the specifics of each case the whole narrative falls apart. We have to keep things as vague as possible and if you want to discuss details then you're racist.

[Tisket]

I think what Gelston is getting at is, disproportionate to what? If you just look at race then yes you could reach that conclusion. If you look at reported crimes then you would find that they are statistically under represented. 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murders in the US.

I honestly don't know what you intend to convey in your post but, I will say this: if you (or anyone else for that matter) believe blacks are treated fairly and equitably in the United States, whether economically or legally, then I laugh at your absurdity. I'm not invested in the argument enough to google shit and I'm not going to bother because you (general "you", not specifically you) will interpret results to suit your own beliefs and desires on the subject. Rest assured that I am probably laughing at you though.

[Tisket]

I kinda enjoy stirring the pot. With the recent liberal exodus, someone's got to take up the slack.

[Androidpk]

With the recent liberal exodus, someone's got to take up the slack.

There is no slack in that department.

[Tisket]

There is no slack in that department.

Really? I've only noticed Ashliana posting in politics. Haven't been paying much attention though.

[Fortybox]

I kinda enjoy stirring the pot. With the recent liberal exodus, someone's got to take up the slack.

PC is boring now. Kind of funny how most of us still here were accused of being the pot stirrers when it really was those who left.

[Fortybox]

There is no slack in that department.

You need to do a better job at fulfilling time4dumb's role. I give you like 2 stars out of 5.

[drauz]

I honestly don't know what you intend to convey in your post but, I will say this: if you (or anyone else for that matter) believe blacks are treated fairly and equitably in the United States, whether economically or legally, then I laugh at your absurdity. I'm not invested in the argument enough to google shit and I'm not going to bother because you (general "you", not specifically you) will interpret results to suit your own beliefs and desires on the subject. Rest assured that I am probably laughing at you though.

I'm asking what you are basing your assertion on. If I were a police officer I would probably be biased. I would know that I have a much higher chance of being killed if I was dealing with a black person over a white person. Since the vast majority of police deaths are involving armed subjects and a very small minority involving unarmed subjects I don't think you've really done anything but echo a talking point you heard.

[drauz]

Not to mention 43% of cop killers are black, which means blacks are much more likely to attack a police officer and pull a weapon on them which might explain some of why percentage/population wise blacks are killed more than whites.

The problem with this argument is people just look at raw numbers and arrive to the conclusion that cops are racist murderous thugs engaging in genocide (and being terrible at it considering they only manage to kill about 200 black people per year, even assuming they were all perfect little angels.)

People don't want to look at the specifics, like which race the cop was or which race the civilian was, who is more likely to attack and kill a police officer, were those civilians shot and killed pointing a weapon at the officer, were they trying to run the officer over with their car, were they reaching for the officer's weapon.

Because if we look at the specifics of each case the whole narrative falls apart. We have to keep things as vague as possible and if you want to discuss details then you're racist.

The problem is they only look at that statistic. Once you also look at crime statistics you get a much more complete view of the situation.

[Tisket]

I'm asking what you are basing your assertion on. If I were a police officer I would probably be biased. I would know that I have a much higher chance of being killed if I was dealing with a black person over a white person. Since the vast majority of police deaths are involving armed subjects and a very small minority involving unarmed subjects I don't think you've really done anything but echo a talking point you heard.

So your simply absurd belief is that blacks don't bear an uneven burden of harm at the hands of law enforcement?

[Tisket]

I don't believe that most police are more likely to shoot blacks simply because of their skin color however, cops pull over blacks at far greater frequency than whites so that alone increases a black person's risk of police violence.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=702

[Gelston]

I don't believe that most police are more likely to shoot blacks simply because of their skin color however, cops pull over blacks at far greater frequency than whites so that alone increases a black person's risk of police violence.

Tisk4fun

[Tisket]

Tisk4fun

lol

also: fuck you!!!

lol

[drauz]

So your simply absurd belief is that blacks don't bear an uneven burden of harm at the hands of law enforcement?

Correct. So you also believe that there is institutional sexism against males in the criminal justice system?

[drauz]

I don't believe that most police are more likely to shoot blacks simply because of their skin color however, cops pull over blacks at far greater frequency than whites so that alone increases a black person's risk of police violence.

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=702

So what do you believe? If more crimes are committed by black people it is no fault of the police that the offender happens to be black.

Here are the crime stats from 2013, the first available year I believe. Look at the percentages. Black people are over represented in just about everything compared to them being 13% of the US population.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JQpwWe-esI

[Tisket]

So what do you believe? If more crimes are committed by black people it is no fault of the police that the offender happens to be black.

Here are the crime stats from 2013, the first available year I believe. Look at the percentages. Black people are over represented in just about everything compared to them being 13% of the US population.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JQpwWe-esI

I've already lost interest in this debate but, let me ask you a question. You've posited that blacks are more prone to commit crimes (at least, that's what I think you are saying by posting crime statistics.) Why do you suppose that is? Do you believe it's genetic? Economic? You obviously don't believe it's the white man's fault so what do you think the underlying cause is? I'm genuinely curious.

[Tisket]

Correct. So you also believe that there is institutional sexism against males in the criminal justice system?

I don't entirely understand the question but I can say that I don't know the answer. Why do you ask?

[Fortybox]

I've already lost interest in this debate but, let me ask you a question. You've posited that blacks are more prone to commit crimes (at least, that's what I think you are saying by posting crime statistics.) Why do you suppose that is? Do you believe it's genetic? Economic? You obviously don't believe it's the white man's fault so what do you think the underlying cause is? I'm genuinely curious.

I blame Skittles. There just isn't enough difference in the colors/flavors. /rage