Trump Will Totally Fix North Korea

[cwolff]

Mattis is a billion times better than you'll ever be.

You boys love to be followers of that strong male personality type. I think you all must have Daddy issues.

P.S. - Fuck Mattis for going along with this shit. He's received the benefit of the doubt but that benefits not eternal. There's an expiration date and he'll have to stand one way or the other.

[Wrathbringer]

You boys love to be followers of that strong male personality type. I think you all must have Daddy issues.

P.S. - Fuck Mattis for going along with this shit. He's received the benefit of the doubt but that benefits not eternal. There's an expiration date and he'll have to stand one way or the other.

You're retarded.

[RichardCranium]

You boys love to be followers of that strong male personality type. I think you all must have Daddy issues.

P.S. - Fuck Mattis for going along with this shit. He's received the benefit of the doubt but that benefits not eternal. There's an expiration date and he'll have to stand one way or the other.

I'm sure Mattis cares how a gaping vagina like yourself believes he should do his job.

[cwolff]

I'm sure Mattis cares how a gaping vagina like yourself believes he should do his job.

Another manboy crushing on the father figure. Look how personally you take it. At least you can still type while sucking bigger men's cocks.

[Parkbandit]

You boys love to be followers of that strong male personality type. I think you all must have Daddy issues.

P.S. - Fuck Mattis for going along with this shit. He's received the benefit of the doubt but that benefits not eternal. There's an expiration date and he'll have to stand one way or the other.

Jesus.....

I'd suggest you've lost it... but honestly, you never had it.

[RichardCranium]

Another manboy crushing on the father figure. Look how personally you take it. At least you can still type while sucking bigger men's cocks.

This isn't personal girlfriend. I'm just tired of you bleeding all over every fucking thread.

[Parkbandit]

Another manboy crushing on the father figure. Look how personally you take it. At least you can still type while sucking bigger men's cocks.

Why does everything have to be of a homosexual nature with you.. and in such a demeaning context?

[cwolff]

This isn't personal girlfriend. I'm just tired of you bleeding all over every fucking thread.

Block me then. Quit reading. Don't respond. Look somewhere other than three or four threads in the Politics folder. You have remedies to fix your situation

[RichardCranium]

Block me then. Quit reading. Don't respond. Look somewhere other than three or four threads in the Politics folder. You have remedies to fix your situation

Or I could just respond accordingly and watch you scream homophobic slurs at the sky.

[Wrathbringer]

This isn't personal girlfriend. I'm just tired of you bleeding all over every fucking thread.

This is correct.

[Gelston]

Another manboy crushing on the father figure. Look how personally you take it. At least you can still type while sucking bigger men's cocks.

Your only response is basically "lol ur gay!", I'd have thought you'd have moved on past grade school level insults, but apparently that isn't the case here.

It isn't a "manboy crush" it is facts. Look at everything General Mattis has accomplished and then compare it to yourself. You get triggered on the politics section for an internet forum for 30 year old text based RPG.

Mattis is more informed about the situation than you can ever hope to be.

[cwolff]

Your only response is basically "lol ur gay!", I'd have thought you'd have moved on past grade school level insults, but apparently that isn't the case here.

It isn't a "manboy crush" it is facts. Look at everything General Mattis has accomplished and then compare it to yourself. You get triggered on the politics section for an internet forum for 30 year old text based RPG.

Mattis is more informed about the situation than you can ever hope to be.

There was nothing to respond too Gelly and you know that. You're the one I responded too. All you could do was sling an insult my way because I'm critical of Mattis. Now you're beginning to speak some sense. Yes I am not as informed as he is. Perhaps there's a grand strategy or he just loves his job so much he won't quit it. Maybe he believes in trump and what donnie's doing. I'm willing to be he comes out of this looking diminished and with a stain on his previous impeccable reputation. Everyone else does.

BTW: Isn't that "30 year old video game....trigger blah blah blah" getting cliché even for you? Come up with some new material

[cwolff]

Or I could just respond accordingly and watch you scream homophobic slurs at the sky.

Express a little more honesty there Richard. You started with the gaping vagina bullshit. Don't get all lawyered up and offended now.

[Gelston]

There was nothing to respond too Gelly and you know that. You're the one I responded too. All you could do was sling an insult my way because I'm critical of Mattis. Now you're beginning to speak some sense. Yes I am not as informed as he is. Perhaps there's a grand strategy or he just loves his job so much he won't quit it. Maybe he believes in trump and what donnie's doing. I'm willing to be he comes out of this looking diminished and with a stain on his previous impeccable reputation. Everyone else does.

BTW: Isn't that "30 year old video game....trigger blah blah blah" getting cliché even for you? Come up with some new material

I mean, everything I've said is a fact, and all you have is homophobic slurs. Look, I get it, you hate gay people and you're a raging liberal, so your head is very confused. If being a massive crybaby on a text based game forum is how you make it through your life, then that is okay.

[cwolff]

I mean, everything I've said is a fact, and all you have is homophobic slurs. Look, I get it, you hate gay people and you're a raging liberal, so your head is very confused. If being a massive crybaby on a text based game forum is how you make it through your life, then that is okay.

This is about the time where you cut and paste a definition from the dictionary and pretend like you've been righteous all along. It's shameful how you twist and spin. Don't you ever just come out and make a damn straight up point? My theory is that you're afraid to make a declaration because then you'd have to defend it and that opens you to ridicule.

[Parkbandit]

I mean, everything I've said is a fact, and all you have is homophobic slurs. Look, I get it, you hate gay people and you're a raging liberal, so your head is very confused. If being a massive crybaby on a text based game forum is how you make it through your life, then that is okay.

Hey now.. he might be fighting some inner demons and just lashing out.

Would it really surprise you that he's gay? He has all the traits.

No one was more surprised than me to find out he was a guy.. and he is married to a girl.

[Parkbandit]

Or I could just respond accordingly and watch you scream homophobic slurs at the sky.

It's not homophobic if you are a liberal.

You're dumb.

[RichardCranium]

This is about the time where you cut and paste a definition from the dictionary and pretend like you've been righteous all along. It's shameful how you twist and spin. Don't you ever just come out and make a damn straight up point? My theory is that you're afraid to make a declaration because then you'd have to defend it and that opens you to ridicule.

If he does cut and paste a definition it should be for projection.

[Gelston]

This is about the time where you cut and paste a definition from the dictionary and pretend like you've been righteous all along. It's shameful how you twist and spin. Don't you ever just come out and make a damn straight up point? My theory is that you're afraid to make a declaration because then you'd have to defend it and that opens you to ridicule.

I paste a definition and you then argue the dictionary is wrong.

[Parkbandit]

I paste a definition and you then argue the dictionary is wrong.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/8a4a99d3bd67ba8d9a025c36edf4a624/tenor.gif?itemid=6220235

[Archigeek]

But it did nothing substantial to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons.. which is the problem we've had for the past 40 years.



Really? So each President has set up a face to face meeting with the NK leader? News to me.

With the South Korean backing as well as China's?

You might want to take your fingers out of your ears. I realize you dislike President Trump.. but what you are trying to say makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Not really. "Set up a meeting" means nothing. It's been set up, un-set up, and now it's set-up again. What is this, a WWF title fight, or an Epic Rap Battle of History? Wake me when it happens.

I'm all for it, and Trump is right about one thing, this should have been taken care of a long time ago. Every single president since Carter has had some sort of a plan and none of them has amounted to much. Including Trump's so far.

[Parkbandit]

Not really. "Set up a meeting" means nothing. It's been set up, un-set up, and now it's set-up again. What is this, a WWF title fight, or an Epic Rap Battle of History? Wake me when it happens.

I'm all for it, and Trump is right about one thing, this should have been taken care of a long time ago. Every single president since Carter has had some sort of a plan and none of them has amounted to much. Including Trump's so far.

You can't simply dismiss the progress so far though. South Korea and North Korea meeting, China getting involved in the negotiations on our side, a North Korean leader coming to Washington to speak with the President, etc...

As far as the on again and off again meeting.. that's all part of President Trump's negotiating. He's not one to bow down to Kim like our previous Presidents did just to get a deal, any deal, no matter what. President Trump is coming from a place of power.. not capitulation and Kim isn't used to US Presidents dealing with him in that manner.

This is farther along than any other President.

[Ardwen]

Assad meeting with Un too, they sold the Syrians a reactor once, think they won't do it again? Meetings mean nothing, results do.

[Parkbandit]

Assad meeting with Un too, they sold the Syrians a reactor once, think they won't do it again? Meetings mean nothing, results do.

True. But it's most certainly a step in the right direction, no?

A year ago, North Korea wouldn't even consider giving up their nuclear weapons. Today, they are going to a summit where that is the main point.

[Archigeek]

True. But it's most certainly a step in the right direction, no?

A year ago, North Korea wouldn't even consider giving up their nuclear weapons. Today, they are going to a summit where that is the main point.

A year ago sure, but they've been a roller-coaster for decades. I agree though, that we shouldn't dismiss it. Just like we're all much better off without the absurd relationship that we had with Cuba for decades, we'd be better off without this other hold over from the cold war.

[Methais]

You boys love to be followers of that strong male personality type. I think you all must have Daddy issues.

P.S. - Fuck Mattis for going along with this shit. He's received the benefit of the doubt but that benefits not eternal. There's an expiration date and he'll have to stand one way or the other.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/310/457/37b.jpg

[Methais]

There was nothing to respond too Gelly and you know that. You're the one I responded too. All you could do was sling an insult my way because I'm critical of Mattis. Now you're beginning to speak some sense. Yes I am not as informed as he is. Perhaps there's a grand strategy or he just loves his job so much he won't quit it. Maybe he believes in trump and what donnie's doing. I'm willing to be he comes out of this looking diminished and with a stain on his previous impeccable reputation. Everyone else does.

BTW: Isn't that "30 year old video game....trigger blah blah blah" getting cliché even for you? Come up with some new material

It would be nice if you could come up with some new material other than WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[Wrathbringer]

It would be nice if you could come up with some new material other than WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

This is fucking correct.

[Methais]

This is fucking correct.

Speaking of fucking...


https://youtu.be/OrLMLFE5Eec

[Parkbandit]

Speaking of fucking...


https://youtu.be/OrLMLFE5Eec

They should be allowed to marry. Why are we standing in the way of progress!?!?

[Gelston]

They should be allowed to marry. Why are we standing in the way of progress!?!?

At least no one would be forced to bake a wedding cake for them if it goes against their religious beliefs.

[Parkbandit]

At least no one would be forced to bake a wedding cake for them if it goes against their religious beliefs.

No one is forced to bake a wedding cake.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/justices-side-colorado-baker-same-sex-wedding-cake-142744589--politics.html

[Gelston]

No one is forced to bake a wedding cake.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/justices-side-colorado-baker-same-sex-wedding-cake-142744589--politics.html

... You just like... Said the exact same thing I did...

[Parkbandit]

... You just like... Said the exact same thing I did...

Oh... my b.

I read your post as no one SHOULD be forced.

Sorry :(

[cwolff]

NBA star turned Kim Jong Un soulmate Dennis Rodman will be in Singapore during President Trump’s summit with the North Korean dictator next week, The Post has learned.

“The Worm” will arrive in the country a day before the June 12 sitdown — and sources said he could even play some sort of role in the negotiations.

It just keeps getting better

https://nypost.com/2018/06/05/dennis-rodman-will-be-in-singapore-for-trump-kim-summit/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Taernath]

It just keeps getting better

https://nypost.com/2018/06/05/dennis-rodman-will-be-in-singapore-for-trump-kim-summit/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

This is all just a build up for the announcement of the next season of Celebrity Apprentice, starring Kim Jong-Un.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmbbXKJT3aw

[Androidpk]

Trump Tower Pyongyang coming rsn.

[Neveragain]

Trump Tower Pyongyang coming rsn.

Are you going to be this butt hurt when the Korean war comes to a close under a Trump administration?

[Androidpk]

Are you going to be this butt hurt when the Korean war comes to a close under a Trump administration?

Are you going to be butt hurt when Trump gets impeached?

[Neveragain]

Are you going to be butt hurt when Trump gets impeached?

Fucking lol. You are one hard up bitch.

[Androidpk]

I'll take that as a yes.

[Taernath]

Are you going to be butt hurt when Trump gets impeached?

With this congress? lol

[Neveragain]

With this congress? lol

He's too fucking stupid to understand. He's a butt hurt socialist that can't accept his ideology has been wholly rejected. Because of this he will carry Democrat water even though the Democrats are the ones fucking him up the ass. He needs to listen to what Malcolm X had to say about the KKK...... Democrat party.

[Androidpk]

I'm registered as a Republican and have voted for far more Republicans than Democrats but don't let facts stop you from shaking with rage over my comments. Or are you just shaking?

[Parkbandit]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/029c26620ce36ad270469abea1895b76/tenor.gif?itemid=5678766

[Androidpk]

​wife beater

[Ardwen]

Good News PB, the great diplomat Dennis Rodman is attending the summit, good luck with that!

[Parkbandit]

Good News PB, the great diplomat Dennis Rodman is attending the summit, good luck with that!

Hell yes!

Dennis Rodman got further with NK than your boy President Obama. :(

[Wrathbringer]

Are you going to be butt hurt when Trump gets impeached?

Lol you're retarded. Quoted for when trump doesn't get impeached.

[Neveragain]

I'm registered as a Republican and have voted for far more Republicans than Democrats but don't let facts stop you from shaking with rage over my comments. Or are you just shaking?

I'm shaking with rage?

I have no control over the Parkinson's disease, you on the other hand are capable of not stealing from people, you choose to be a thief.

Why do you continue to choose this route when there really is nobody on these forums that have degraded themselves to your level. It's like you enjoy being kicked in the dick.

[Neveragain]

​wife beater

??????????

[Androidpk]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/491/153/5a1.gif

[Neveragain]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/491/153/5a1.gif

Does this mean it's open season on fags, tranny's, niggers, kikes, chinks and Pollock's?

[Androidpk]

Does this mean it's open season on fags, tranny's, niggers, kikes, chinks and Pollock's?

You've never asked for permission before for discussing your neo nazi fantasies, don't start now.

[Back]

Does this mean it's open season on fags, tranny's, niggers, kikes, chinks and Pollock's?

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.

[Neveragain]

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.

But the Parkinson's knock is totally acceptable, isn't that right fag?

[Neveragain]

You've never asked for permission before for discussing your neo nazi fantasies, don't start now.

Explain the difference PK. We do know you're a thief. Fags, tranny's, niggers, kikes and Pollock's have nothing on your chosen label.

[Back]

Please go away.

[Neveragain]

Please go away.

No.

Please quit sucking dicks.

[~Rocktar~]

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.


https://youtu.be/79DijItQXMM

[Androidpk]

Explain the difference PK. We do know you're a thief. Fags, tranny's, niggers, kikes and Pollock's have nothing on your chosen label.

You're the self-avowed neo nazi, why don't you tell us, captain shakes.

[cwolff]

Is NA a PB pc alt? Is that what we've got going on here?

[Androidpk]

Is NA a PB pc alt? Is that what we've got going on here?

Some people think so.

[Neveragain]

Some people think so.

That's fucking awesome.

[Neveragain]

You're the self-avowed neo nazi, why don't you tell us, captain shakes.

Totally cool, I have Parkinson's. You're a thief.

I'm totally cool with this.

[Neveragain]

Is NA a PB pc alt? Is that what we've got going on here?

Yes.

[Androidpk]

Totally cool, I have Parkinson's. You're a thief.

I'm totally cool with this.

I've been accused of theft. Once, in my entire life. You are a self-avowed neo nazi.

I'm totally cool with this.

[Neveragain]

I've been accused of theft. Once, in my entire life. You are a self-avowed neo nazi.

I'm totally cool with this.

I'll play devils advocate. What makes you any better than a neo-nazi when you use a persons disease to degrade them?

You're a thieving nigger. (Notice how your skin color plays no role in you being a nigger.)

[Androidpk]

I'll play devils advocate. What makes you any better than a neo-nazi when you use a persons disease to degrade them?

You're a thieving nigger. (Notice how your skin color plays no role in you being a nigger.)

What makes your disease a shield to protect you against trolling when you dish it out every day? If you can't handle the heat of the PC then GTFO.


https://media.giphy.com/media/BLrw2S6cfAyI/giphy.gif

[Neveragain]

What makes your disease a shield to protect you against trolling when you dish it out every day? If you can't handle the heat of the PC then GTFO.


https://media.giphy.com/media/BLrw2S6cfAyI/giphy.gif

So we are totally cool with this m I'm really happy about this. I get to call fags, fags, niggers, niggers, all the rainbow is acceptable now. I'm feeling a sense of victory at the moment.

P.S. All my milkshakes bring the girls to the yard.

[Androidpk]

So we are totally cool with this m I'm really happy about this. I get to call fags, fags, niggers, niggers, all the rainbow is acceptable now. I'm feeling a sense of victory at the moment.

P.S. All my milkshakes bring the girls to the yard.

Like I said before, no one has stopped you from being you. Let the real you shine!

[Neveragain]

Like I said before, no one has stopped you from being you. Let the real you shine!

I will. I can freely express my hate for nigger thievs, you can express your hate for Parkinson's sufferers and women that masturbate too loudly.

We truly have entered the age of Aquarius!

[Androidpk]

If you think you're offending me you're not :/

[Wrathbringer]

You're the self-avowed neo nazi, why don't you tell us, captain shakes.

You're a dick.

[Neveragain]

If you think you're offending me you're not :/

You felt the need to tell me this, why?

[Parkbandit]

I've been accused of theft. Once, in my entire life.

https://media.giphy.com/media/zaZzhHg7asba8/giphy.gif

[Neveragain]

https://media.giphy.com/media/zaZzhHg7asba8/giphy.gif

I do such a fine job of posting gifs. :Pats his PB account on the back:

[Back]

You're a dick.

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.

[Neveragain]

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.

How weird, you won't call out PK for being a theiving nigger but totally go balls deep over some neg rep.

Please go away.

[Parkbandit]

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.

Right back at you.

BTW: It's not Tuesday... just thought someone should let you know.

[Methais]

Are you going to be butt hurt when Trump gets impeached?

Are you going to be butthurt when he doesn't?

[Methais]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/491/153/5a1.gif

Quoted for when pk eventually cries about Trump "mocking a reporter's disability." in a future meltdown.

Which there's probably posts from him crying about it already, but I can't bring myself to waste more than 17 seconds at a time with this loser.

In b4 useless rep pic.

[Methais]

Right back at you.

BTW: It's not Tuesday... just thought someone should let you know.

He probably pulled an all nighter, crying uncontrollably about the election the entire time.

[Wrathbringer]

Thanks for making the PC such a shithole.

What did I do? I called pk a dick for making fun of someone's condition.

[Methais]

What did I do? I called pk a dick for making fun of someone's condition.

You didn't vote for Hillary.

[Back]

What did I do? I called pk a dick for making fun of someone's condition.

When someone says thank you, you're supposed to say you're welcome. Douche.

[Androidpk]

Quoted for when pk eventually cries about Trump "mocking a reporter's disability." in a future meltdown.

Which there's probably posts from him crying about it already, but I can't bring myself to waste more than 17 seconds at a time with this loser.

In b4 useless rep pic.

oh noes, I'm making fun of a neo nazi..

[Androidpk]

Found an actual gif of Neveragain

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/donald-trump-mocking-disabled-reporter-gif-1.gif

[Wrathbringer]

When someone says thank you, you're supposed to say you're welcome. Douche.

What? No one said thank you to me. Thanks for proving you're retarded yet again.

[Neveragain]

Found an actual gif of Neveragain

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/donald-trump-mocking-disabled-reporter-gif-1.gif

And yet this is completely innocent when measured against your nigger theivery.

And the theif said " you are a terrible person for saying bad things, why can't you be like me and steal, leach and fuck the married woman"

You're right PK you're a winner.

[Androidpk]

<-- still not a neo nazi

how's the dementia coming along?

[Neveragain]

<-- still not a neo nazi

how's the dementia coming along?

Cool, you're not a neo-nazi, but you are a theif.

When you were fucking another man's wife did it cross your mind that maybe you're a terrible human being?

[Androidpk]

Cool, you're not a neo-nazi, but you are a theif.

You keep spelling that word wrong, poor dear.. are you having an episode? :lol:

[Androidpk]

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/triggered-gif-16.gif

[Neveragain]

You keep spelling that word wrong, poor dear.. are you having an episode? :lol:

I just suck at the English language,but a harmless personal flaw.

Who are you going to steal from next, nigger?

[Androidpk]

I just suck at the English language,but a harmless personal flaw.

Who are you going to steal from next, nigger?


http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/triggered-gif-16.gif

[Methais]

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/triggered-gif-16.gif

At least use a gif that doesn't look like it was made when GS3 was still happening.

I know you're lazy as fuck though, so I did the work for you. Don't forget to thank me so I can say you're welcome or else Backlash might get....

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LateRipeDunnart-size_restricted.gif

[Androidpk]

I'm lazy? You still won't search for a single quote of someone saying Trump's take down is imminent.

[Neveragain]

http://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/triggered-gif-16.gif

Honestly dude, my youngest daughter calls me Shakes McGee.

You just pretty much fail at everything, don't you?

[Androidpk]

Honestly dude, my youngest daughter calls me Shakes McGee.

You just pretty much fail at everything, don't you?

Does she know you're a neo nazi? I bet that's gonna be an awkward conversation..

[Neveragain]

I'm lazy? You still won't search for a single quote of someone saying Trump's take down is imminent.

Just yesterday you said Trump is going to be impeached.

If you're so insistent on digging up quotes, can you please find where I say I'm a neo-nazi? Or are you just going to make that demand of others?

[Neveragain]

Does she know you're a neo nazi? I bet that's gonna be an awkward conversation..

She calls Mexicans "poop", it's funny as hell.

[Androidpk]

Just yesterday you said Trump is going to be impeached.

If you're so insistent on digging up quotes, can you please find where I say I'm a neo-nazi? Or are you just going to make that demand of others?

Emphasis on the word imminent. I know you lack a simple grade school education but do try and keep up with the adults.

[Neveragain]

Emphasis on the word imminent. I know you lack a simple grade school education but do try and keep up with the adults.

The adults keep asking you questions and you revert to your status quo of "insert personal attack on stupid shit like masturbating too loudly"

Nevermind you didn't use the word imminent. I think it went like this" are you going to be butt hurt when Trump is impeached?"

[Androidpk]

are you going to be butt hurt when Trump is impeached?

nope

[Neveragain]

nope

Dude, that's exactly what you said yesterday. You're totally like the child who says they didn't take the cookies while your hand is in the jar. Do we get to add habitual lier to your resume now?

[Androidpk]

Dude, that's exactly what you said yesterday. You're totally like the child who says they didn't take the cookies while your hand is in the jar. Do we get to add habitual lier to your resume now?

So you can't spell and can't read. Shocker.

[Neveragain]

Are you going to be butt hurt when Trump gets impeached?

You can't tell the truth, shocker.

[Neveragain]

So you can't spell and can't read. Shocker.

Now find that quote where I say I'm a neo-nazi.

In before personal insult over my masturbation noises.

[cwolff]

Kim Jong Un Begged for Summit ‘on His Hands and Knees,’ Giuliani Says Kim Jong Un Begged for Summit ‘on His Hands and Knees,’ Giuliani Says
With the summit plans back in place, the U.S. has the upper hand, President Trump’s lawyer said
By Felicia Schwartz
June 6, 2018 9:57 a.m. ET

TEL AVIV—President Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said North Korean leader Kim Jong Un got “on his hands and knees and begged” for their summit to be held after Mr. Trump canceled it last month.
With the summit plans back in place, the U.S. has the upper hand, President Trump’s lawyer said

Rudy seems to be gunning for Pompeo's job as top diplomat.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/kim-jong-un-begged-for-summit-on-his-hands-and-knees-giuliani-says-1528293476

[Androidpk]

Now find that quote where I say I'm a neo-nazi.

In before personal insult over my masturbation noises.

How is your dementia coming along?

[Methais]

I'm lazy? You still won't search for a single quote of someone saying Trump's take down is imminent.

I say I'm lazy all the time. In your case though it's not totally out of laziness, since you've gone out of your way to show how much it triggers you so badly that you can never stop talking about it.

Meanwhile you act like you climb Mr. Everest 6 times before breakfast when you probably haven't done more than walk between the fridge, couch, and shitter for who knows how long.

Keep being triggered because I won't sort through thousands of posts to find a quote for you though, it's great. Especially with how extra triggered you, cwolff, and Back have been this week. I guess your menstrual cycles finally lined up with each other and you're all on your period this week.

[Neveragain]

Is there a vulnerable woman I can take advantage of? I need a place to stay, I don't have any money but my chicken is delicious. No loud masturbating please, I don't like that sound when I'm creeping outside your bedroom door.

Creepy fucker.

[Methais]

Rudy seems to be gunning for Pompeo's job as top diplomat.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/kim-jong-un-begged-for-summit-on-his-hands-and-knees-giuliani-says-1528293476

Shut up, we're busy talking about what a loser you are.

[Parkbandit]

Good News PB, the great diplomat Dennis Rodman is attending the summit, good luck with that!

Also, you can relax. Dennis Rodman said he doesn't want "all the credit" for this NK/US Summit.

[cwolff]

Trump on his preps for Singapore summit with Kim Jong Un: “I don’t think I have to prepare very much. It’s about the attitude.” Via WH pool


https://youtu.be/4WzyxybYEGM?t=5

[cwolff]

Pompeo posted this today.

The only outcome U.S. will accept is the complete, verifiable, and irreversible denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

[Methais]

Pompeo posted this today.

The only outcome U.S. will accept is the complete, verifiable, and irreversible denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/070/812/Oh-noes.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Pompeo posted this today.

The only outcome U.S. will accept is the complete, verifiable, and irreversible denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Isn't that the entire point of this summit?

https://pics.me.me/thanks-captain-obvious-30321283.png

[Methais]

Isn't that the entire point of this summit?

https://pics.me.me/thanks-captain-obvious-30321283.png

I can't tell if cwolff is complaining about that or not. I'm just going to assume yes, because Trump.

[cwolff]

Donald Trump on Saturday said his summit with Kim Jong-un in Singapore would be a “one-time shot”. Speaking to reporters at the G7 summit in La Malbaie, Canada, the US president projected confidence over the prospects for a deal on denuclearization, stating: “I think within the first minute, I’ll know.”

“Just my touch, my feel, that’s what I do,” he said. “How long will it take to figure out if they’re serious? You know, the way they say you know if you’re going to like somebody in the first five seconds, you ever hear that one? I think very quickly I’ll know whether or not something good is going to happen.”

As comical as this quote is it highlights the mindset of trump. It's all about him personally and whether they become "friends" or not. Nothing like winging it and counting on his personal feelings of friendship to get what the USA wants/needs from Kim and North Korea.

[Methais]

As comical as this quote is it highlights the mindset of trump. It's all about him personally and whether they become "friends" or not. Nothing like winging it and counting on his personal feelings of friendship to get what the USA wants/needs from Kim and North Korea.

If it were an Obama quote instead of a Trump quote you'd be like YEAH THAT'S RIGHT!!! OBAMA'S SO SMART HE HAS A SIXTH SENSE FOR THINGS LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!11

Also:
https://media.giphy.com/media/MedY19R13SECc/giphy.gif

[cwolff]

This isn't addressed enough. Indeed, it's been totally lost in the trump kim meeting news. Part of the issue is that trump has already removed any sense of humanity or human rights from his "deals" with other countries. America First mean Fuck You to much of the world that used to look up to us.


Mr Song defected to South Korea in 2002, having survived for years in a gulag where torture was a daily routine.

"Being in a North Korean prison camp was so tough," he recalls, in between deep breaths. "You'd hear birds singing and see blue skies and it would make you want to die. So you can imagine how shocked I am to see Kim Jong-un being shown in a positive light.

These memories are particularly difficult for Mr Song, as he sees Kim Jong-un become the new darling of the diplomatic scene, as a result of his highly-anticipated June meeting with US President Donald Trump.
Leaders from several countries are rushing to have their moment with the man once shunned because of his nuclear weapons programme and dire human rights record.
"So many have died at the hands of his regime yet people can say he is now humane," he says. "They are romanticising a dictator and glamorising his regime. This is all very wrong."

In a sleepy part of Seoul's lively Gangnam district, lives another defector artist Choi Seong-guk.

In his previous life, the Pyongyang native worked on state-commissioned cartoons about Western spies.
"As someone who actually comes from North Korea, hearing praise about Kim Jong-un makes me really angry," he says.
"The people who say these things have never actually seen North Koreans like me and my family, who have been tormented and beaten. [So they know nothing about] how miserable our lives have been."

Now in his 30s and living in Seoul, Mr Choi was exiled from the prestigious North Korean capital and sent to a prison camp after being found guilty of selling duplicated copies of South Korean films. He made the decision to flee the country with his family in 2012.

Like many other North Koreans abroad, he will be closely watching the Trump-Kim meeting.
"What will make me angry will be seeing pictures of Kim parading around with global leaders. This will only fortify his image back in North Korea and will brainwash many people," he says.

[cwolff]

This is worth watching out for in Kim/trump Summit. A lot of blah blah blah then trump declaring victory to fly home with no real progress.


None of this is hypothetical. On one measure, Trump’s handling of talks with Pyongyang has already been a disaster. For he has given away one of the most valuable bargaining chips the US holds – a meeting on equal terms with an American president – and got nothing in return. This is worth stressing, especially to those crediting Trump’s aggressive tweeting with bullying Kim to the table. The North Koreans have yearned for a summit, and the legitimacy it confers, for a quarter of a century. Clinton, Bush or Obama could all have got the “win” of a summit with Kim or his father in a heartbeat. They chose not to because they decided Pyongyang was not offering enough in return. As the Korea analyst Robert E Kelly tweeted, in Trump-style capitals: “TRUMP IS GIVING STUFF AWAY, not wheeling and dealing his way into some great achievement.”

The same will be true if Trump announces a peace treaty between the North and South Korea on Tuesday, and his media amplifiers trumpet it as a historic breakthrough even if it comes without a serious concession on Kim’s part. That isn’t negotiation: it’s just giving Kim a prize. It’s not the art of the deal: it’s the art of the giveaway. (Trump did the same with recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. He gave that away, too, winning no Israeli concessions in return.)

The dangers are clear. The North Koreans will play Trump. They’ve reportedly studied The Art of the Deal, learning how to manipulate him and his ego: witness the oversized, gameshow-style envelope in which they delivered Kim’s latest letter to the president. Unwilling to listen to aides, refusing to prepare (“I don’t think I have to,” he said on Thursday. “It’s about the attitude”) and with no eye for detail, he is liable to concede something vital and not even realise he has done it.

Which brings us to perhaps the most crucial problem. Let’s say Kim refuses to budge meaningfully. Can anyone imagine Trump, craving a win before November’s midterm elections, emerging from the meeting in Singapore and candidly admitting, “We tried our best but I’m afraid we fell short”? The reality TV star has already storyboarded the pictures: handshakes and signatures, followed by talk of a historic breakthrough and a Nobel peace prize.
In other words, even if he doesn’t get enough from Kim, he’ll say he has. He’ll do what he always has, even back in his Manhattan real-estate days: he’ll spin failure as success. It makes Kim the winner on Tuesday even before they start, his acquisition of nuclear weapons rewarded – thereby incentivising other dictators to follow his lead.

Trump is not a master negotiator: he’s a conman. We need to be on our guard – for it’s the world that risks being suckered.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/08/trump-master-negotiator-meeting-kim-jong-un-art-of-deal?CMP=fb_gu

[Androidpk]

Finally some honesty from Fox news:

https://twitter.com/adamcbest/status/1005825231041323008

[Ardwen]

Trump is planning to meet Kim with no aides just translators, I hope no one liked Alaska or Hawaii much.

[cwolff]

Trump is planning to meet Kim with no aides just translators, I hope no one liked Alaska or Hawaii much.

It's a scary thought. He's got no education on the subject, no deep understanding of related issues, no expertise. If he was an expert he'd take aides with him who carry reams of data at their fingertips so he can make sound decisions. I'm assuming that some of the translators will be ours but he has used Russian translators to talk to Putin and Pence has used Turks to talk to Erdogan. For this summit, State must surely have our own translators in the room at least.

CNN is doing reporting like this: "In what many are calling the Summit of the Century...." Kim's already won. He's a little shit, two bit hereditary dictator and he's getting top billing like a heavyweight prize fighter. He must be in hog heaven over there. All his plans are coming to fruition. China's plans too I suspect.

I'd say it's 50/50 we leave this summit with plans of withdrawing all U.S. troops from the peninsula.

[Back]

It's a scary thought. He's got no education on the subject, no deep understanding of related issues, no expertise. If he was an expert he'd take aides with him who carry reams of data at their fingertips so he can make sound decisions. I'm assuming that some of the translators will be ours but he has used Russian translators to talk to Putin and Pence has used Turks to talk to Erdogan. For this summit, State must surely have our own translators in the room at least.

CNN is doing reporting like this: "In what many are calling the Summit of the Century...." Kim's already won. He's a little shit, two bit hereditary dictator and he's getting top billing like a heavyweight prize fighter. He must be in hog heaven over there. All his plans are coming to fruition. China's plans too I suspect.

I'd say it's 50/50 we leave this summit with plans of withdrawing all U.S. troops from the peninsula.

I wouldn't trust either of them with tying their own shoes let alone anything that affects global relations.

[cwolff]

I wouldn't trust either of them with tying their own shoes let alone anything that affects global relations.

Think about that for a second. "I wouldn't trust either of them..."

We are already discussing them as equals. We probably have to right? Kim's forced his way onto the big stage and used trump as a step stool to get there.

[Fortybox]

Calling it before it happens:

Summit will happen, deal will be fixed...

and Dennis Rodman will get the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Parkbandit]

I wouldn't trust either of them with tying their own shoes let alone anything that affects global relations.

Amazing how Trump was able to build a billion dollar empire..

You're living in your motherjones/MSNBC bubble. Come on out and join us in reality, won't you?

[Parkbandit]

It's a scary thought. He's got no education on the subject, no deep understanding of related issues, no expertise. If he was an expert he'd take aides with him who carry reams of data at their fingertips so he can make sound decisions. I'm assuming that some of the translators will be ours but he has used Russian translators to talk to Putin and Pence has used Turks to talk to Erdogan. For this summit, State must surely have our own translators in the room at least.

CNN is doing reporting like this: "In what many are calling the Summit of the Century...." Kim's already won. He's a little shit, two bit hereditary dictator and he's getting top billing like a heavyweight prize fighter. He must be in hog heaven over there. All his plans are coming to fruition. China's plans too I suspect.

I'd say it's 50/50 we leave this summit with plans of withdrawing all U.S. troops from the peninsula.

https://www.cwcycles.co.za/sites/default/files/styles/product_main_image/public/images/product/A%2ABODY%20OILS%20-%20CREAM%2ABOASSMA%2AASS%20MAGIC%2ACHAMOIS%20CREAM %2A%5E%2A200G%2A%5E%2A%5E%2A%5E_1.jpg?itok=Fu6yhMh V

This is sports cream.. but I imagine it still works for injuries sustained during girls field hockey..

[Back]

Amazing how Trump was able to build a billion dollar empire..

You're living in your motherjones/MSNBC bubble. Come on out and join us in reality, won't you?

Yeah, you're the last person to cast stones in that naive glass house of Trump you live in. Once Trump and Kim kiss and make up they'll fly over to Russia together and celebrate with Putin.

[cwolff]

Calling it before it happens:

Summit will happen, deal will be fixed...

and Dennis Rodman will get the Nobel Peace Prize.

LOL. Could you even imagine. trump gets snubbed on the Peace Prize for Rodman. It'd almost be worth it to see the tantrum

[Wrathbringer]

Yeah, you're the last person to cast stones in that naive glass house of Trump you live in. Once Trump and Kim kiss and make up they'll fly over to Russia together and celebrate with Putin.

you're retarded.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, you're the last person to cast stones in that naive glass house of Trump you live in. Once Trump and Kim kiss and make up they'll fly over to Russia together and celebrate with Putin.

It's like you want to make sense.. but just don't quite have the intelligence to.

[Parkbandit]

LOL. Could you even imagine. trump gets snubbed on the Peace Prize for Rodman. It'd almost be worth it to see the tantrum

It would still be less than the epic meltdown you've been having, cupcake.

[Fortybox]

LOL. Could you even imagine. trump gets snubbed on the Peace Prize for Rodman. It'd almost be worth it to see the tantrum

The only tantrum happening here is the left's constant crying about Trump. You're evidence of that.

[Androidpk]

Unlike Republicans who totally didn't throw tantrums for 8 years over Obama. :lol:

[cwolff]

Unlike Republicans who totally didn't throw tantrums for 8 years over Obama. :lol:

They're still having that tantrum. It clouds their vision to the point that they forget they're Americans first and put all their hopes into the basket case that is trump.

[Back]

They're still having that tantrum. It clouds their vision to the point that they forget they're Americans first and put all their hopes into the basket case that is trump.

They are having that tantrum so bad they elected Trump just to piss everyone off.

[Neveragain]

They are having that tantrum so bad they elected Trump just to piss everyone off.

Why wouldn't you support Trump at this point, he just told Europe to fuck off. Europe is the home of the white supremacy you are resisting.

http://climatechange-theneweconomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/G7-Canada-1040x630.jpg

This pretty much sums it up. Stand up Back, resist!

[Parkbandit]

Unlike Republicans who totally didn't throw tantrums for 8 years over Obama. :lol:

On this forum? Links that shows anyone having what you, time4fun or cwolff is experiencing?

Or.. just deflect as usual.

[Parkbandit]

They are having that tantrum so bad they elected Trump just to piss everyone off.

Glad you finally admit you are upset by the election results.

Let it out, Cupcake.

[Methais]

Calling it before it happens:

Summit will happen, deal will be fixed...

and Dennis Rodman will get the Nobel Peace Prize.

And Back and cwolff's butthurt will be taken to levels never before seen.

[Methais]

LOL. Could you even imagine. trump gets snubbed on the Peace Prize for Rodman. It'd almost be worth it to see the tantrum

Still won't be as glorious as the tantrum you and Back throw if something good happens with NK.

You two special needs individuals are probably on the Bill Maher "I hope the economy crashes because Trump!" train too.


It's like you want to make sense.. but just don't quite have the intelligence to.

But he's trying really really hard! That should be good for something, shouldn't it?

http://97x.com/files/2015/11/You-Tried-Trophy.jpg?w=630&h=1120&q=75

[Methais]

Unlike Republicans who totally didn't throw tantrums for 8 years over Obama. :lol:

Remember when republicans were rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit during Obama's inauguration? Remember all those other times republicans rioted in the streets and did other stupid violent shit because they were butthurt over Obama being elected as opposed to doing shit like dressing up as George Washington and looking dumb but being otherwise harmless?

Me either.

[Back]

Remember when republicans were rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit during Obama's inauguration? Remember all those other times republicans rioted in the streets and did other stupid violent shit because they were butthurt over Obama being elected as opposed to doing shit like dressing up as George Washington and looking dumb but being otherwise harmless?

Me either.

Over exaggerate much, Mrs. Drama? A few kids in black knocking over a trashcan does not equate to "rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit". LOL.

[Gelston]

Over exaggerate much, Mrs. Drama? A few kids in black knocking over a trashcan does not equate to "rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit". LOL.

Wut?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/22/politics/trump-inauguration-protesters-indictment/index.html

"They assaulted a limousine driver, smashed windows of local businesses, destroyed a government vehicle and committed "violent and destructive acts," according to the indictment."

I mean, that was just DC. 260 arrests. 214 FELONY rioting charges. But yeah, just a few kids knocking over a trashcan.

[RichardCranium]

Wut?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/22/politics/trump-inauguration-protesters-indictment/index.html

"They assaulted a limousine driver, smashed windows of local businesses, destroyed a government vehicle and committed "violent and destructive acts," according to the indictment."

I mean, that was just DC. 260 arrests. 214 FELONY rioting charges. But yeah, just a few kids knocking over a trashcan.

They started a conversation.

[~Rocktar~]

They started a conversation.

Yeah, about how to more quickly and effectively end riots and protect private property everywhere except the west coast.

[Methais]

Over exaggerate much, Mrs. Drama? A few kids in black knocking over a trashcan does not equate to "rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit". LOL.

Downplay much? And you try to say other people are full of shit. :lol:


Wut?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/02/22/politics/trump-inauguration-protesters-indictment/index.html

"They assaulted a limousine driver, smashed windows of local businesses, destroyed a government vehicle and committed "violent and destructive acts," according to the indictment."

I mean, that was just DC. 260 arrests. 214 FELONY rioting charges. But yeah, just a few kids knocking over a trashcan.

^
The right acted retarded, but there was little to no violence, no riots, no shitting in public, etc. It was more like "Look at these dorks dressing up like George Washington" retarded.

Anyone who even tries to claim that the right was nearly as unhinged under Obama as the left has been under Trump is lying to themselves, knows they're lying to themselves, yet is so stupid they still believe it.

Right Back?

[Back]

LOL. Most of the charges are being dropped. You can't lump a few people who protested together with anyone you disagree with. Lets face it, out of over half the population of the US who voted, about 200 were corralled and unfairly arrested for the actions of a fraction of that number.

This is Methais overblowing shit.

[Wrathbringer]

LOL. Most of the charges are being dropped. You can't lump a few people who protested together with anyone you disagree with. Lets face it, out of over half the population of the US who voted, about 200 were corralled and unfairly arrested for the actions of a fraction of that number.

This is Methais overblowing shit.

How many of those who voted cried? Because that's hilarious.

[Methais]

Over exaggerate much, Mrs. Drama? A few kids in black knocking over a trashcan does not equate to "rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit". LOL.


LOL. Most of the charges are being dropped. You can't lump a few people who protested together with anyone you disagree with. Lets face it, out of over half the population of the US who voted, about 200 were corralled and unfairly arrested for the actions of a fraction of that number.

This is Methais overblowing shit.

Right, that's why everyone saw it live as it was happening on inauguration day right?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUyM8HSYYuM

Just a couple kids knocking over trash cans, right Cracklash?

Seriously what is wrong with your brain?

[Back]

I'm not condoning it but you are over reacting when you try to lump everyone together with those who actually caused the damage which are a tiny tiny fraction of that protest, sensational Youtube video notwithstanding.

[Methais]

I'm not condoning it but you are over reacting when you try to lump everyone together with those who actually caused the damage which are a tiny tiny fraction of that protest, sensational Youtube video notwithstanding.

Remember like an hour ago when you said this?


Over exaggerate much, Mrs. Drama? A few kids in black knocking over a trashcan does not equate to "rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit". LOL.

Is that video just a few kids in black knocking over a trash can like you claim is all that happened?

You already know you're going to avoid answering that. You also know exactly why.

[Back]

Hey, I realize its not Congress obstructing a president just because of who he is, but its also not "setting cities on fire" and was not everyone you disagree with.

[Methais]

Hey, I realize its not Congress obstructing a president just because of who he is, but its also not "setting cities on fire" and was not everyone you disagree with.

Can you explain all those things that are being set on fire in the video then? I'm sure it was just someone being careless with a cigarette or something.

Go ahead and address all those local business that got smashed up too, as it's under the same umbrella of you trying to downplay a riot as a few kids in black knocking over a trash can.

And while you're at it, I'm going to need a more straight answer about said trash cans.

Is the footage I posted just some kids in black knocking over a trash can like you tried to claim is all that happened on inauguration day?

If not, then what exactly are these events that are happening? We're not worried about "why" either, so go ahead and delete your (probably) half typed sentence saying some stupid shit like, "What's happening is a bunch of concerned citizens are resisting LITERALLY HITLER!!!!!"

[Back]

Can you explain all those things that are being set on fire in the video then? I'm sure it was just someone being careless with a cigarette or something.

Its not "burning cities" like your original overblown claim.


Go ahead and address all those local business that got smashed up too, as it's under the same umbrella of you trying to downplay a riot as a few kids in black knocking over a trash can.

I've already said I don't condone any of it. All I've done is counter your claim that democrats burned cities and shit after the election. A few people with hammers and matches in DC is all you've shown.


And while you're at it, I'm going to need a more straight answer about said trash cans.

Is the footage I posted just some kids in black knocking over a trash can like you tried to claim is all that happened on inauguration day?

You have no right to demand anything from me. But I'm feeling generous. You posted a sensational clip. I'm not disputing that. My comment never claimed that knocking down a trashcan was all that happened.


If not, then what exactly are these events that are happening? We're not worried about "why" either, so go ahead and delete your (probably) half typed sentence saying some stupid shit like, "What's happening is a bunch of concerned citizens are resisting LITERALLY HITLER!!!!!"

I've already stated what I thought it was. You are flipping your shit.

[Methais]

Its not "burning cities" like your original overblown claim.



I've already said I don't condone any of it. All I've done is counter your claim that democrats burned cities and shit after the election. A few people with hammers and matches in DC is all you've shown.



You have no right to demand anything from me. But I'm feeling generous. You posted a sensational clip. I'm not disputing that. My comment never claimed that knocking down a trashcan was all that happened.



I've already stated what I thought it was. You are flipping your shit.

You need to level up that backpedaling game:


Over exaggerate much, Mrs. Drama? A few kids in black knocking over a trashcan does not equate to "rioting in the street setting cities on fire and shit". LOL.

.

[Parkbandit]

Who is your avatar, Methais?

[Methais]

Who is your avatar, Methais?

https://media.giphy.com/media/KUOPgSNoKVcuQ/giphy.gif

(I'm hiding from pk and his lawyer)

/BLOCKPKFROMSEEINGTHISPOST

[Parkbandit]

Hey, I realize its not Congress obstructing a president just because of who he is, but its also not "setting cities on fire" and was not everyone you disagree with.

Are you talking about the Republicans obstructing President Obama or the Democrats obstructing President Trump?

[cwolff]

In trump world it's all about him, personally. There's no idea of service to the nation or establishing a legacy for future generations. It's all me, me, me and now, now, now. A talking head said today that we're not even going to bring up human rights when talking to Kim and that this is a mistake because America stands for the defense of human rights. He's wrong of course. We used to be about that. As recently as two years ago these values were important to U.S. policies. Today, we're no longer that country.


.@POTUS says he hopes he and Kim Jung Un “like” each other.
He’s meeting with a brutal dictator who has threatened to nuke the U.S—the world’s leading human rights abuser—and he describes it like a first date on http://Match.com !

https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1005966996796837889

[RichardCranium]

Is this the part where you begin to set up the summit as a failure no matter what because muh human rights?

[cwolff]

Is this the part where you begin to set up the summit as a failure no matter what because muh human rights?

We'll see what happens. Mostly I think the summit is already a failure for the USA but a real success for N. Korea, China and other countries. As for the human rights issue, that goes way beyond this summit. It's a failure of Americans to remember what our country's supposed to be about. It's the end of the conservative movement built on responsibility, strength and decency.

BTW: This is off the subject but something I think about a lot. I wonder if Kim is actually in control of N. Korea. He's a wet behind the ears 30 something and there are old school communists there who built the nation with his grandfather. I can't believe that they will take a backseat to this third generation spoiled kid. We may not be talking to the decision makers anyway.

[RichardCranium]

We'll see what happens. Mostly I think the summit is already a failure for the USA but a real success for N. Korea, China and other countries. As for the human rights issue, that goes way beyond this summit. It's a failure of Americans to remember what our country's supposed to be about. It's the end of the conservative movement built on responsibility, strength and decency.

These things don't happen in a vacuum. If the focus is denuclearization for now then so be it.

[cwolff]

These things don't happen in a vacuum. If the focus is denuclearization for now then so be it.

That would be great. It's a hell of a long shot. The handshake agreement is easy and we'll get some nice photo ops out of this summit but we don't even have the experts there to offer advice on how to verify denuclearization. We're watching a big dog and pony show.

[~Rocktar~]

Maybe some real verification not the bullshit in the Iran deal. No more of that declaring it a military site to block access, no 24 day delay, no advance notice, no blocking of "technical means" none of that "If you like your centrifuges you can keep your centrifuges" bullshit. Seriously, Iran made a whole site, buildings, all the equipment and 6 feet of topsoil disappear between notification and inspection. And people wonder why we called it a bad deal?

[cwolff]

Maybe some real verification not the bullshit in the Iran deal. No more of that declaring it a military site to block access, no 24 day delay, no advance notice, no blocking of "technical means" none of that "If you like your centrifuges you can keep your centrifuges" bullshit. Seriously, Iran made a whole site, buildings, all the equipment and 6 feet of topsoil disappear between notification and inspection. And people wonder why we called it a bad deal?

That's all your conspiracy bullshit. Trump doesn't even have a coherent strategy for this meeting. No resolute goals. One day he says one thing and the next he says another. Go ahead and critique Obama but also take a step back and apply the same lens to what trump is up to.

[Wrathbringer]

That's all your conspiracy bullshit. Trump doesn't even have a coherent strategy for this meeting. No resolute goals. One day he says one thing and the next he says another. Go ahead and critique Obama but also take a step back and apply the same lens to what trump is up to.

Stfu already

[cwolff]

Mattis keeps making statements like this that he can't back it up. Pompeo too for that matter. At best its wishful thinking. We all know that a late night trump Twitter rampage is what counts. Not some well thought out consistent diplomatic position.


Task & Purpose

When President Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un meet in Singapore on Tuesday, Kim is almost certain to press the United States to withdraw its troops from South Korea. But that is not an issue for North Korea to decide, said Defense Secretary James Mattis.


“That would be a discussion between two democracies: The Republic of Korea and the United States,” Mattis told reporters on Monday. “It’s a relationship between our leaders and those two countries. That is not something that other countries would have – I would say – initial domain over a discussion with us. We’re the only ones who make up our mind on this.”

[Methais]

That's all your conspiracy bullshit. Trump doesn't even have a coherent strategy for this meeting. No resolute goals. One day he says one thing and the next he says another. Go ahead and critique Obama but also take a step back and apply the same lens to what trump is up to.

WAAAAAAHHHHHHH WAAAAAHHHHH is all I’m hearing here.

[~Rocktar~]

That's all your conspiracy bullshit. Trump doesn't even have a coherent strategy for this meeting. No resolute goals. One day he says one thing and the next he says another. Go ahead and critique Obama but also take a step back and apply the same lens to what trump is up to.

Except that it actually happened and is in fact the description of the verification from the deal.

[cwolff]

Otto Warmbier died a year ago this month. Think trump will bring it up? He got killed for stealing some political paraphernalia? Is that right? A poster or something?

That's the kind of country Kim leads. Today that country appeared on stage side by side with the USA. Flags displayed in line as equals while our president gives the dude a thumbs up. He hopes Kim likes him. They can golf together.

The whole thing is pretty crazy

[Gelston]

Otto Warmbier died a year ago this month. Think trump will bring it up? He got killed for stealing some political paraphernalia? Is that right? A poster or something?

That's the kind of country Kim leads. Today that country appeared on stage side by side with the USA. Flags displayed in line as equals while our president gives the dude a thumbs up. He hopes Kim likes him. They can golf together.

The whole thing is pretty crazy

What do you think is more important, a denuclearized North Korea that is now officially at peace with the South, or Otto Warmbier?

Sure, in the long term Otto should be addressed, but it won't be addressed as long as we have a nuclear armed N. Korea on a war footing.

[cwolff]

In that scenario Ottos not that important.

[Tgo01]

Otto Warmbier died a year ago this month. Think trump will bring it up? He got killed for stealing some political paraphernalia? Is that right? A poster or something?

That's the kind of country Kim leads. Today that country appeared on stage side by side with the USA. Flags displayed in line as equals while our president gives the dude a thumbs up. He hopes Kim likes him. They can golf together.

The whole thing is pretty crazy

It sucks what happened to Otto Warmbier but a couple of questions.

One, why didn't you whine nearly this much when Warmbier was detained on Obama's watch? Because the president had a D after his name?

Two, what do you think Trump should do? Treat Kim like shit and refuse to even speak to him? What good does that do? I get it, it sucks that Trump has done more in less than 2 years than Obama did in 8, but maybe it's time to put your partisan politics aside and say maybe, just MAYBE, Trump did something right.

[Gelston]

In that scenario Ottos not that important.

He isn't, and this is the exact scenario they are trying to achieve. Trump may or may not mention him, but it isn't the goal for these talks... And if it would cause some sort of impasse, I'd prefer he didn't. I think peace is what leads to talking about past misdeeds, to do it prior is just talk.

[cwolff]

Maybe he did. I swear I'll be shocked if trump solves this problem of North Korea but Ill give credit if he does.

What are the metrics that equal success here?

[Gelston]

Maybe he did. I swear I'll be shocked if trump solves this problem of North Korea but Ill give credit if he does.

What are the metrics that equal success here?

Denuclearization and ratification of a peace treaty to end the Korean War would be nice. One without the other is a massive step either way.

[Tgo01]

Denuclearization and ratification of a peace treaty to end the Korean War would be nice. One without the other is a massive step either way.

I agree. Anything short of this seems like a complete waste of time here. I could live without a peace treaty, but that would be a nice bonus.

I also don't expect any of this to happen after this meeting, so for now if he can keep the lines of communication open and keep things civil that would be great.

[Gelston]

I agree. Anything short of this seems like a complete waste of time here. I could live without a peace treaty, but that would be a nice bonus.

I think a peace treaty by itself would ease the tensions enough that North Korea would probably abandon their Nuclear testing regardless. It is a money pit and word on the street is their testing center is fucked.

[Gelston]

President Donald J. Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un signed a document on Tuesday stating that Pyongyang would work toward "complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula"— a historic concession, which was one of the requirements the U.S. sought at the summit in Singapore.at the end of their historic summit.

The words "work toward" ring out there.

[Tgo01]

The words "work toward" ring out there.

Yeah. So far I give Trump credit for willing to have an open dialogue, keeping things civil, and getting Kim to agree to this goal. But I'll refrain from giving Trump too much of a pat on the back until I see some actual results.

[cwolff]

That was it? Is this Summit just a signing ceremony? Promises to work towards doing stuff later?

[Tgo01]

That was it? Is this Summit just a signing ceremony? Promises to work towards doing stuff later?

Did you think the US was going to send over demolition experts to North Korea the minute the summit was over?

[RichardCranium]

Still better than the Iran deal.

[Tgo01]

Trump sends a Tweet.

Democrats: "OMG! Trump is going to get us nuked from North Korea!"

Trump and Kim sign agreement to work towards denuclearizing North Korea. Two hours later.

Democrats: "What, that's it? Why haven't they dismantled all of their nukes yet?"

[cwolff]

“We will do it as fast as it can mechanically and physically be done,” he said of the process to rid North Korea of nuclear weapons.

Trump announced that he will order an end to regular “war games” that the United States conducts with ally South Korea, a reference to annual joint military exercises that are an irritant to North Korea.

Trump called the exercises “very provocative” and “inappropriate” in light of the optimistic opening he sees with North Korea. Ending the exercises would also save money, Trump said.

I assume this is all talk. Hes in the afterglow of the love fest and doesn't mean what he's saying. I thought it would be 50/50 he'd end this summit saying we're withdrawing from the peninsula. That could be the next tweet at this rate.

[RichardCranium]

I assume this is all talk. Hes in the afterglow of the love fest and doesn't mean what he's saying. I thought it would be 50/50 he'd end this summit saying we're withdrawing from the peninsula. That could be the next tweet at this rate.

Posts like this are why you get trolled incessantly. Just a heads up.

[cwolff]

Posts like this are why you get trolled incessantly. Just a heads up.

Trolls gonna troll.

And then there's this guy. Our troll president. Here he is half joking about making excuses and not admitting fault. He may be kind of joking but it's 100% true.


Trump says he trusts Kim Jong Un. And if he's wrong? "I may be wrong, I mean I may stand before you in six months and say, 'Hey I was wrong,'" said Trump, before adding, "I don't know that I'll ever admit that, but I'll find some kind of an excuse."

[RichardCranium]

It's because you spin any and every thing as a negative, no matter what just because Trump. There are so many things you can call him out on, but your last two posts are not it. The summit may or may not work out, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. In the second one where you quote him, he seems pretty candid. Not his normal New York shyster bluster.

[cwolff]

It's because you spin any and every thing as a negative, no matter what just because Trump. There are so many things you can call him out on, but your last two posts are not it. The summit may or may not work out, but it's definitely a step in the right direction. In the second one where you quote him, he seems pretty candid. Not his normal New York shyster bluster.

No man. It's not a step in the right direction. It's a nothing burger. A photo op. It's all hat no cattle. That makes it worse than doing nothing.

If I'm wrong, give the guy his peace prize. At this point all that's happened is that we've given NK everything they want. What happens if they don't denuke? What options are left then? Straight to war? We've had the summit already so if this doesn't work, what's the next step. There's a reason diplomacy takes time and care.

This is from a guy named Bruce Klinger. His twitter says he's a 20 years CIA veteran and a heritage guy. Needless to say, he's no liberal. Trump may be in for some bad press on this thing. I'll be interested to see how he reacts to that.


This is very disappointing. Each of the four main points was in previous documents with NK, some in a stronger, more encompassing way. The denuke bullet is weaker than the Six Party Talks language. And no mention of CVID, verification, human rights.

[RichardCranium]

I just prefer the wait and see approach rather than shitting all over it from jump street and saying "I hope I'm wrong, but..."

[cwolff]

I just prefer the wait and see approach rather than shitting all over it from jump street and saying "I hope I'm wrong, but..."

We've given Kim a win for nothing. Trump's defending the guys record on starving his people and putting them in concentration camps. I just got home from work an hour ago and am catching up on this and the more I'm seeing the worse this thing stinks.

EDIT: And he's still bitching at Canada.

Trump said he departed the Group of Seven summit that Trudeau hosted in Quebec late last week on “very friendly” terms with his six counterparts, including the leaders of France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Britain.
“When I got on to the plane, I think that Justin probably didn’t know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions,” Trump said. “And I see the television, and he’s giving a news conference about how he will not be pushed around by the United States. I say, push them around? We just shook hands. It was very friendly.”
Trump said he was retaliating against Canada with countervailing tariffs, saying of Trudeau: “He learned that’s going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He learned.”

[Parkbandit]

No man. It's not a step in the right direction. It's a nothing burger. A photo op. It's all hat no cattle. That makes it worse than doing nothing.

If I'm wrong, give the guy his peace prize. At this point all that's happened is that we've given NK everything they want. What happens if they don't denuke? What options are left then? Straight to war? We've had the summit already so if this doesn't work, what's the next step. There's a reason diplomacy takes time and care.

Is that what the ruling elite tell you? That diplomacy takes a special person that's elected and it takes years and years of time and care to bring about any change at all?

It's rampant stupidity like this that keeps people in power for decades.

Good job, sucker.

[Parkbandit]

We've given Kim a win for nothing. Trump's defending the guys record on starving his people and putting them in concentration camps. I just got home from work an hour ago and am catching up on this and the more I'm seeing the worse this thing stinks.

You really have to get off moveon.org, motherjones.com. msnbc.com, cnn.com, etc.... Clearly you are very upset STILL about EVERYTHING.

Time to unplug little camper. Maybe take in a show.

[Methais]

In that scenario Ottos not that important.

Perhaps shutting the fuck up is in order then.

Yes, it is.

The fact that you still can’t figure out why no one takes you seriously as anything more than an incessant crybaby who puts Trump butthurt ahead of literally everything else is both hilarious and sad.

You have no independent thought at all. You get your shit from fringe left sites and mindlessly parrot their spin and treat it as gospel and then get upset when everyone except for Backlash shits on it for being such blatant butthurt fueled spin.

[Wrathbringer]

Perhaps shutting the fuck up is in order then.

Yes, it is.

Motion seconded. Motion passes. Cloaff will now shut the fuck up.

[Wrathbringer]

We've given Kim a win for nothing. Trump's defending the guys record on starving his people and putting them in concentration camps. I just got home from work an hour ago and am catching up on this and the more I'm seeing the worse this thing stinks.

EDIT: And he's still bitching at Canada.

Trump said he departed the Group of Seven summit that Trudeau hosted in Quebec late last week on “very friendly” terms with his six counterparts, including the leaders of France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Britain.
“When I got on to the plane, I think that Justin probably didn’t know that Air Force One has about 20 televisions,” Trump said. “And I see the television, and he’s giving a news conference about how he will not be pushed around by the United States. I say, push them around? We just shook hands. It was very friendly.”
Trump said he was retaliating against Canada with countervailing tariffs, saying of Trudeau: “He learned that’s going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He learned.”

<"It's time to stop posting" cat paw on mouse meme here>

[Archigeek]

You really have to get off moveon.org, motherjones.com. msnbc.com, cnn.com, etc.... Clearly you are very upset STILL about EVERYTHING.

Time to unplug little camper. Maybe take in a show.

Actually the language he's using is straight off of Fox News, when Obama was saying he would meet with our enemies. Even so, I've always thought it was a weak, absurdist argument. Refusal to have dialogue is the kind of diplomacy that leads to intractable situations like this to begin with. N Korea needs dialogue and you won't really get anywhere without talking to them.

Unfortunately, I don't think Trump has the patience for it. He has his agreement, and he can do nothing and blame NK if anything goes wrong. Since all Trump cares about is Trump, that's all he needs to call it a win. He'll act all magnanimous about it and not spend any more time on it. At least that's my prediction, though I hope I'm wrong.

[Methais]

Actually the language he's using is straight off of Fox News, when Obama was saying he would meet with our enemies. Even so, I've always thought it was a weak, absurdist argument. Refusal to have dialogue is the kind of diplomacy that leads to intractable situations like this to begin with. N Korea needs dialogue and you won't really get anywhere without talking to them.

Unfortunately, I don't think Trump has the patience for it. He has his agreement, and he can do nothing and blame NK if anything goes wrong. Since all Trump cares about is Trump, that's all he needs to call it a win. He'll act all magnanimous about it and not spend any more time on it. At least that's my prediction, though I hope I'm wrong.

I agree with cock skull...


I just prefer the wait and see approach rather than shitting all over it from jump street and saying "I hope I'm wrong, but..."

[Parkbandit]

Actually the language he's using is straight off of Fox News, when Obama was saying he would meet with our enemies. Even so, I've always thought it was a weak, absurdist argument. Refusal to have dialogue is the kind of diplomacy that leads to intractable situations like this to begin with. N Korea needs dialogue and you won't really get anywhere without talking to them.

Unfortunately, I don't think Trump has the patience for it. He has his agreement, and he can do nothing and blame NK if anything goes wrong. Since all Trump cares about is Trump, that's all he needs to call it a win. He'll act all magnanimous about it and not spend any more time on it. At least that's my prediction, though I hope I'm wrong.

Trump has gotten farther along than any other member of the Ruling Class. And far quicker.

I'm willing to give his brand of diplomacy a chance.

[Ardwen]

Diplomacy? He agreed to less then the South Koreans already got Kim to agree to in April, exactly what has he done except legitimize the most brutal ruler on the planet?

[Gelston]

Overnight, President Trump led a historic summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. "We had a tremendous 24 hours. We've had a tremendous three months, actually, because this has been going on for quite a while," President Trump said. "I want to thank Chairman Kim for taking the first bold step toward a bright new future for his people."

The two leaders signed a joint statement that outlines such a future. Here is the key phrase: "President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK [North Korea], and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

The statement also commits to reestablishing U.S.–North Korean relations. "Nearly 70 years ago . . . an extremely bloody conflict ravaged the Korean Peninsula," President Trump said. "Yet, while the armistice was agreed to, the war never ended. To this day, never ended. But now we can all have hope that it will soon end. And it will. It will soon end."

"Chairman Kim has the chance to seize an incredible future for his people," the President continued. "Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace."

[Ardwen]

This is the NINTH time North Korea has agreed to denuclearize, exactly why would you believe anything he says this time? Iran was abiding 100 percent by the treaty they had, and it was canceled, why would Kim believe Trump?

[Fortybox]

Diplomacy? He agreed to less then the South Koreans already got Kim to agree to in April, exactly what has he done except legitimize the most brutal ruler on the planet?

Your bias really shows. Nothing Trump does will ever be positive in your eyes - we get it.

[Parkbandit]

Diplomacy? He agreed to less then the South Koreans already got Kim to agree to in April, exactly what has he done except legitimize the most brutal ruler on the planet?

Wait.. so you suddenly believe he is the leader of NK today.. when you didn't believe it yesterday?

Stop with that stupidity. You're better than that.

He was legitimate when he took over.. he's legitimate today. Nothing has changed. He didn't suddenly become known because President Trump spoke with him.

[Gelston]

This is the NINTH time North Korea has agreed to denuclearize, exactly why would you believe anything he says this time? Iran was abiding 100 percent by the treaty they had, and it was canceled, why would Kim believe Trump?

This is the first time under the new fat man. He just wants a McDonalds. Give peace a chance, Ardwen.

[Fortybox]

This is the first time under the new fat man. He just wants a McDonalds. Give peace a chance, Ardwen.

That would require him to believe Trump did something right.

[Parkbandit]

This is the NINTH time North Korea has agreed to denuclearize, exactly why would you believe anything he says this time? Iran was abiding 100 percent by the treaty they had, and it was canceled, why would Kim believe Trump?

How many times has Kim Jung Un signed an agreement to a denuclearized Korean peninsula?

And LOL at Iran abiding by 100%.

Stop.

[RichardCranium]

Diplomacy? He agreed to less then the South Koreans already got Kim to agree to in April, exactly what has he done except legitimize the most brutal ruler on the planet?

He is the leader of a nation-state. He already has referential power. His nation has nuclear weapons. The idea that he isn't "legitimized" is stupid.

[Ardwen]

Even Trump's people have admitted Iran was abiding by the deal that was signed. Including maybe 2 weeks before he bowed out of the deal. You may not have liked the deal, but its far better then no deal at all.

[RichardCranium]

So the Iran deal was better than no deal, but the Summit agreement is utter bullshit?

[Ardwen]

When he gave things Kim wanted and got literally less then the South Koreans had already gotten? Yes.

Hell he said it at his press conference, if it fails in six months I wont admit it and will make up some excuse.

[Methais]

https://i.imgur.com/YOJXsGx.jpg

[Parkbandit]

When he gave things Kim wanted and got literally less then the South Koreans had already gotten? Yes.

You probably shouldn't believe everything you hear on MSNBC.

So.. how exactly was he suddenly legitimized yesterday where he wasn't before?


Hell he said it at his press conference, if it fails in six months I wont admit it and will make up some excuse.

OMG PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS MAKING A JOKE! HE CAN'T DO THAT!

Stop.

[Archigeek]

“I may be wrong, I mean I may stand before you in six months and say, ‘Hey I was wrong,'” said Trump. He continued,”I don’t know that I’ll ever admit that, but I’ll find some kind of an excuse.” -Trump

Possibly the most honest thing he's ever said.

[Gelston]

Possibly the most honest thing he's ever said.

I mean, it was a joke, but I'm hard pressed to think of a politician that would admit to being wrong about something. It just isn't something any of them do.

[ClydeR]

Politically, this is a big success for Trump. All Trump has to do is keep talking about North Korea and not wander into other subjects, like Mueller or Trudeau.

[Gelston]

Politically, this is a big success for Trump. All Trump has to do is keep talking about North Korea and not wander into other subjects, like Mueller or Trudeau.

shut up retard

[cwolff]

Cory Gardner: .@VP was very clear: regular readiness training and training exchanges will continue.

Mike Pence: NEW: Pence’s press sec tells @lachlan that reports he said military exercises with Korea will continue are “false”

They didn't get their apology tour messaging put together right.

[Methais]

Cory Gardner: .@VP was very clear: regular readiness training and training exchanges will continue.

Mike Pence: NEW: Pence’s press sec tells @lachlan that reports he said military exercises with Korea will continue are “false”

They didn't get their apology tour messaging put together right.

If this was an apology tour, then what do you call what Obama was doing on his apology tour?

Poor cwolff. Every day must be so much more upsetting for you than the previous day. Please just don't snap and shoot up a building. But if you do, make sure you use a suppressor so no one will even hear the shots firing and you'll get away with it and no one will have a clue who did it!

[Tgo01]

This is the NINTH time North Korea has agreed to denuclearize, exactly why would you believe anything he says this time?

There's a big difference between Kim stating his willingness to give up his nukes, and him officially agreeing to it and putting it in writing. There is also a big difference between agreeing to anything with South Korea and agreeing to things with the US. The US is in the position to remove sanctions and have more clout at the UN to get the UN to remove their sanctions.

True, Kim could still be full of shit and won't do anything at all, but let's at least see where this goes. I would be 100% behind you in my skepticism if Trump did something completely stupid like handed over billions of dollars and removed sanctions and got next to nothing in return. But only a moron would do something like that.

[Tgo01]

Cory Gardner: .@VP was very clear: regular readiness training and training exchanges will continue.

Mike Pence: NEW: Pence’s press sec tells @lachlan that reports he said military exercises with Korea will continue are “false”

They didn't get their apology tour messaging put together right.

I took that from Trump to mean it was part of the deal, not that it would happen first. But even if it does, OH NOES. We start up the war games next year if North Korea fucks us around. If that's the worst Trump "gave up" I think we'll be fine.

[Ardwen]

They have put it in writing, regularly, if you include deals made with his father and grandfather North Korea has reneged on deals like 13 times on various things, including denuclearization. Read what they just signed, it has zero details about anything, also recall that North Korea considers Guam part of the Korean Peninsula, its all rhetoric to him.

[cwolff]

I took that from Trump to mean it was part of the deal, not that it would happen first. But even if it does, OH NOES. We start up the war games next year if North Korea fucks us around. If that's the worst Trump "gave up" I think we'll be fine.

He gave up a lot more. He gave them everything they wanted for nothing. China's remarking that their plans are coming together nicely and asking for sanctions to be lifted. This is a nothing burger. It's wild to see the complete 180 done by the right about this subject. Not too long ago you all were freaking the fuck out that Obama said he'd be willing to talk to Kim.

We just made North Korea our equal. We gave Kim awesome propaganda tools to take back home and show his people how he stood up to the west and how important North Korea is on the global stage.

This whole thing is a farce. There's no grand strategy here.

[Ardwen]

Oh there is plenty of strategy, on Kim's part, hell he got to visit Singapore on someone else's dime which he was never going to be able to do otherwise with the sanctions that are in place, he got a paid vacation with his favorite jogging bodyguards and toilet.

[cwolff]

Trumps hitting the links after a hard few days of sucking up to little rocket man.

It's his 154th day at a trump property and his 112th day at a trump golf course.

Remember when he chastised Obama for this? Hell, remember when the conservatives railed against Obama for golfing? I think trump said he'd be too busy as president to golf.

Doesn't the constant lying get to you guys at all? Have you no comprehension that you're being had or do you recognize it and are totally ok with it because he's your guy?

[cwolff]

Oh there is plenty of strategy, on Kim's part, hell he got to visit Singapore on someone else's dime which he was never going to be able to do otherwise with the sanctions that are in place, he got a paid vacation with his favorite jogging bodyguards and toilet.

If there is anything to be learned from this it's that Cuba needs nukes. Hell, every little player who wants respect needs to get a nuke ASAP. That's the ticket.

[Tgo01]

They have put it in writing, regularly, if you include deals made with his father and grandfather North Korea has reneged on deals like 13 times on various things, including denuclearization. Read what they just signed, it has zero details about anything, also recall that North Korea considers Guam part of the Korean Peninsula, its all rhetoric to him.

His father and grandfather never had weapons like he does today.

Also I'm not sure why everyone thinks this summit was going to hammer out of all the details about denuclearizing North Korea and all of the other conditions on them, and all of the conditions on the US and South Korea, in a few hours. This is a major deal that has to be discussed and worked on for a while between lesser government officials than the leaders of both respective countries.

[Tgo01]

He gave up a lot more. He gave them everything they wanted for nothing.

What have we given up? Trump has already said the sanctions will remain in place until it has been confirmed that North Korea has been denuclearized. Once those sanctions are lifted and nothing has been done to ensure North Korea has given up their nuclear technology then feel free to bitch. Why you complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet nor even comments saying it would happen?

[Furryrat]

What have we given up? Trump has already said the sanctions will remain in place until it has been confirmed that North Korea has been denuclearized. Once those sanctions are lifted and nothing has been done to ensure North Korea has given up their nuclear technology then feel free to bitch. Why you complaining about something that hasn't even happened yet nor even comments saying it would happen?

Shh, they don't want to hear that, they are still riled up by CNN's headlines.

[cwolff]

His father and grandfather never had weapons like he does today.

Also I'm not sure why everyone thinks this summit was going to hammer out of all the details about denuclearizing North Korea and all of the other conditions on them, and all of the conditions on the US and South Korea, in a few years. This is a major deal that has to be discussed and worked on for a while between lesser government officials than the leaders of both respective countries.

No one thought it would hammer out all the details. These things are way fucking complicated. There is a LOT to consider. The criticism is that this rush job photo op is retarded. It's worse than nothing. We've given away our position of strength and gotten nothing in return. We created a propaganda film for Kim to show at home. We're propping up a horrible dictator and making him our equal.

What you're saying is right. That's why you have teams of people work on this stuff for years before the summit. The Iran deal took years to put together. This stuff isn't easy. It was a hard fought hard won negotiation. This just puffs up Kim for nothing.

[cwolff]

If the idea is we will lift sanctions when Kim gives up his nukes then we didn't need a summit for that. Put it on twitter "Give up your nukes and we will lift sanctions". That's why the sanctions are there.

[Tgo01]

We've given away our position of strength and gotten nothing in return.

So now we've given up our position of strength. How exactly have we done that? Because Trump talked with Kim?

I thought Obama was as useless as they come but I never gave him shit for willing to talk with the leaders of our enemies. I just gave him shit for making them rich overnight and getting a promise in return.

[Tgo01]

If the idea is we will lift sanctions when Kim gives up his nukes then we didn't need a summit for that. Put it on twitter "Give up your nukes and we will lift sanctions". That's why the sanctions are there.

So now you want diplomacy to take place on Twitter? I thought Democrats were raging that Trump uses Twitter too much in an "official" capacity.

There is also the issue of how we make sure North Korea has dismantled their research, testing, and production facilities, not to mention all of the other details and side deals to work out. You prefer we just do all of this over Twitter and take Kim's word for it?

[Ardwen]

The commitment to "work towards" is analogous to language in NPT Art. VI that binds nuclear weapons states. The reaffirmation is fascinating; it implies that the Singapore commitment is derivative of Panmunjom, a clear signal that US leverage did not add additional commitments.

BBC has a fairly decent write up on it.

We literally got nothing from this meeting, except the word they will continue to go down the path they already were going down in April, how is that hard to understand?

[Parkbandit]

The commitment to "work towards" is analogous to language in NPT Art. VI that binds nuclear weapons states. The reaffirmation is fascinating; it implies that the Singapore commitment is derivative of Panmunjom, a clear signal that US leverage did not add additional commitments.

BBC has a fairly decent write up on it.

We literally got nothing from this meeting, except the word they will continue to go down the path they already were going down in April, how is that hard to understand?

So.. this is a really bad thing and President Trump really is going to get us into a nuclear war with NK?

Just because Androidpk left with his tail between his legs.. doesn't mean someone has to take his place in Loonytune land.

[Furryrat]

Guess it's a bad thing when two historical adversaries take their fingers off their respective triggers, then smile and shake hands. Great, now I've rolled my eyes so hard my contacts fell out.

[RichardCranium]

No one thought it would hammer out all the details. These things are way fucking complicated. There is a LOT to consider. The criticism is that this rush job photo op is retarded. It's worse than nothing. We've given away our position of strength and gotten nothing in return. We created a propaganda film for Kim to show at home. We're propping up a horrible dictator and making him our equal.

What you're saying is right. That's why you have teams of people work on this stuff for years before the summit. The Iran deal took years to put together. This stuff isn't easy. It was a hard fought hard won negotiation. This just puffs up Kim for nothing.

“I offer my heartfelt congratulations and welcome the success of the historic North Korea-United States summit.”

“The June 12 Sentosa Agreement will be recorded as a historic event that has helped break down the last remaining cold war legacy on Earth.”

That doesn't sound like nothing to me.

[Parkbandit]

Trumps hitting the links after a hard few days of sucking up to little rocket man.

It's his 154th day at a trump property and his 112th day at a trump golf course.

Remember when he chastised Obama for this? Hell, remember when the conservatives railed against Obama for golfing? I think trump said he'd be too busy as president to golf.

Doesn't the constant lying get to you guys at all? Have you no comprehension that you're being had or do you recognize it and are totally ok with it because he's your guy?

I agree. I think it's hypocritical of him to now do that which he was so against.

Even more hypocritical than you.. who never complained about it when Obama was President, but now is so upset by it.

[Tgo01]

We literally got nothing from this meeting, except the word they will continue to go down the path they already were going down in April, how is that hard to understand?

Reaffirming their commitments to the US is a bad thing? What have we given up?

Also pretty sure North Korea's commitment to give up their nukes was always predicated on them getting something in return. At one point they even threatened to call off the summit because they felt it was all one sided with the US doing all of the demanding and offering nothing in return.

[Parkbandit]

No one thought it would hammer out all the details. These things are way fucking complicated. There is a LOT to consider. The criticism is that this rush job photo op is retarded. It's worse than nothing. We've given away our position of strength and gotten nothing in return. We created a propaganda film for Kim to show at home. We're propping up a horrible dictator and making him our equal.

What you're saying is right. That's why you have teams of people work on this stuff for years before the summit. The Iran deal took years to put together. This stuff isn't easy. It was a hard fought hard won negotiation. This just puffs up Kim for nothing.

You are just so upset over this and everything else Trump that you aren't even trying to make any sense.

In what bizzaro freak world did meeting with Kim Jung Un make the United States and North Korea equals? Are you having another meltdown?

Nothing has changed. Two leaders just met to discuss something that will take months and months and months to hammer out.

I'm going to ignore your stupidity on the Iran deal since it's clear you aren't in a good frame of mind to hear that you are 180 degrees out of reality on that one.

See if your husband can put some Strawberry Quik in your milk.. that usually calms you down a little.

[cwolff]

“I offer my heartfelt congratulations and welcome the success of the historic North Korea-United States summit.”

“The June 12 Sentosa Agreement will be recorded as a historic event that has helped break down the last remaining cold war legacy on Earth.”

That doesn't sound like nothing to me.

What are you quoting?

[cwolff]

So now you want diplomacy to take place on Twitter? I thought Democrats were raging that Trump uses Twitter too much in an "official" capacity.

There is also the issue of how we make sure North Korea has dismantled their research, testing, and production facilities, not to mention all of the other details and side deals to work out. You prefer we just do all of this over Twitter and take Kim's word for it?

Don't get stupid twisted. "So you want democracy to take place on Twitter" fuck no I didn't say that and you know it.

[Tgo01]

Don't get stupid twisted. "So you want democracy to take place on Twitter" fuck no I didn't say that and you know it.

I said diplomacy, not Democracy. And you literally said Trump could have just gave his proposals to Kim over Twitter.

[cwolff]

I said diplomacy, not Democracy. And you literally said Trump could have just gave his proposals to Kim over Twitter.

That was sarcasm. There's no proposal. The sanctions are there for that. Give up nukes, play nice, lift sanctions. Didn't even need a summit if it was not going to include work