Trump Will Totally Fix North Korea

[ClydeR]

If China doesn't do what they should, then Trump is willing to solve the problem unilaterally and "totally." Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping are meeting this week (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/03/politics/trump-foreign-policy/) at the Southern White House (http://mashable.com/2017/02/18/trump-tweet-southern-white-house/). Starting a war might also help Trump's sagging approval numbers.


On the campaign trail and since taking office, Trump has argued China is responsible for the continued nuclear proliferation in North Korea. He said in his Financial Times interview that he planned to talk with Xi about that situation and use trade as "the incentive" to talk China into fixing it.

Trump has repeatedly said he would take aggressive action against China to reduce the US trade deficit with the country. But if the talks with Xi don't produce Trump's desired result of getting Beijing to solve the North Korean nuclear problem, Trump said the US would take action.

"If China is not going to solve North Korea, we will," Trump told the Financial Times.

Asked to clarify if he believed the US could solve the problem without China, Trump said: "totally."

More... (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/02/politics/donald-trump-north-korea/)

[Wrathbringer]

It's about time.

[Androidpk]

War! We're going to war!

[Ardwen]

Should be interesting to see how a Chinese leader who has closed gold courses that were being used by party officials reacts to being greeted at a golf course.

[~Rocktar~]

War! We're going to war!


https://youtu.be/iYlqU_bN0b4

[Androidpk]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ahead-of-trump-xi-summit-u-s-warns-clock-has-run-out-on-n-korea-215417128.html

WASHINGTON — Days before President Trump hosts his Chinese counterpart, Xi Jinping, a top U.S. official warned Tuesday that “the clock has run out” on decades of diplomatic efforts to rein in North Korea’s nuclear and missile programs, and military action may ultimately be necessary.

[Gelston]

Gee, looks like the new mod decided to edit out me saying "Thanks for the information Fallen." Fucking with posts already.

[Tgo01]

Gee, looks like the new mod decided to edit out me saying "Thanks for the information Fallen." Fucking with posts already.

Did you post that comment in this thread too?

You posted that comment in the Syrian one:


Thanks for the info, Fallen.

[Gelston]

Did you post that comment in this thread too?

You posted that comment in the Syrian one:

Son of a bitch, yeah. I didn't post here. Sorry Hurlin Whirlin. Some ClydeR posts blend together.

[Androidpk]

go home Gellie your drunk

[Gelston]

go home Gellie your drunk

You're*

[drauz]

Also I don't think he has mod powers over the politics folder.

[Gelston]

Also I don't think he has mod powers over the politics folder.

Supermod has powers over all.

[Androidpk]

Military action doesn't seem feasible, especially if China isn't onboard.

[Back]

I have zero confidence in Trump and this administration to do anything about NK.

[Tgo01]

I have zero confidence in Trump and this administration to do anything about NK.

Sounds like Back is in favor of a US backed regime change in North Korea.

But Russia said mean things about Hillary!

[drauz]

I have zero confidence in Trump and this administration to do anything about NK.

I'll let Trump know he should resign because Back doesn't have confidence in him.

[Ardwen]

Unless someone knows how to stop modern artillery almost any action in North Korea would lead to millions of deaths in South Korea, Seoul is after all within range of huge numbers of North Korea's conventional armaments.

[drauz]

Unless someone knows how to stop modern artillery almost any action in North Korea would lead to millions of deaths in South Korea, Seoul is after all within range of huge numbers of North Korea's conventional armaments.

Airstrikes? Thats just off the top of my head.

[Androidpk]

I have zero confidence in Trump and this administration to do anything about NK.

A shocking surprise!

[time4fun]

I'll let Trump know he should resign because Back doesn't have confidence in him.

Yeah, THAT'S the only reason to resign.

[Back]

He may as well assign the Kardashians to his cabinet since the only qualifications needed for our government seem to be reality tv ratings.

[Parkbandit]

I have zero confidence in Trump and this administration to do anything about NK.

So, they will have the same effectiveness as the Obama Administration.

[Back]

So, they will have the same effectiveness as the Obama Administration.

BUTOBAMA! Trump won. Get over it.

So far from this administration? No comment.

Ack, got my threads mixed up. Happy Wednesday!

[Gelston]

Unless someone knows how to stop modern artillery almost any action in North Korea would lead to millions of deaths in South Korea, Seoul is after all within range of huge numbers of North Korea's conventional armaments.

You knock out what you can with drones and airstrikes, after thst, counter fire. Their arty would be knocked out very quickly. Wouldn't be anywhere near millions dead from their artillery. The instant a shell goes into the air, even a mortar, we have sensors that tell us exactly where it came from and we can hit back even before it lands. Phalanx guns can shoot arty shells out of the air too. They would eventually either all be destroyed or stop firing out of fear.

[drauz]

Yeah, THAT'S the only reason to resign.

The joke being that with everything he could resign for... Back's lack of confidence would be the last straw...

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-analyzing-humor-is-like-dissecting-a-frog-few-people-are-interested-and-the-frog-dies-e-b-white-31-30-02.jpg

[Parkbandit]

BUTOBAMA! Trump won. Get over it.

Oh, I was over it long ago... now I'm just sitting back and watching idiots like you fumble over themselves because your girl lost. It's highly entertaining.


So far from this administration? No comment.

That's because you only look at your far left sources. If you google "Trump administration" and "North Korea" then click on NEWS, you will find comments.


Ack, got my threads mixed up. Happy Wednesday!

Drunk Tuesday turned into Drunk/hangover Wednesday.

Keep going Backlash! The answers you seek ARE at the bottom of the bottle!
https://m.popkey.co/66f89a/A61qm.gif?c=popkey-web&p=thechive&i=thechive&l=direct&f=.gif

[drauz]

Oh, I was over it long ago... now I'm just sitting back and watching idiots like you fumble over themselves because your girl lost. It's highly entertaining.



That's because you only look at your far left sources. If you google "Trump administration" and "North Korea" then click on NEWS, you will find comments.



Drunk Tuesday turned into Drunk/hangover Wednesday.

Keep going Backlash! The answers you seek ARE at the bottom of the bottle!
https://m.popkey.co/66f89a/A61qm.gif?c=popkey-web&p=thechive&i=thechive&l=direct&f=.gif

Fucking amateur!

https://media.giphy.com/media/mnJRjgXZ2ooh2/giphy.gif

[Back]

Trump said quite a few more things this afternoon between when I wrote that post and now.

DOH! Did it again!

The reason is that now the real world problems are at Trump's doorstep. Today is the defining moment of his presidency.

[ClydeR]

Starting a war might also help Trump's sagging approval numbers.

Trump's approval ratings have been on a downward trend since he was sworn in, setting new record lows (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/19/donald_trump_s_approval_rating_hits_new_record_low _according_to_gallup.html) for any President early in the term. The strike in Syria should give him a good bounce.

[Back]

https://media.giphy.com/media/mnJRjgXZ2ooh2/giphy.gif

He's actually a good role model. Successful and sober for over 20 years. Alec, I mean, not Jack.

[Parkbandit]

https://media.giphy.com/media/mnJRjgXZ2ooh2/giphy.gif

He's actually a good role model. Successful and sober for over 20 years. Alec, I mean, not Jack.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0-ZatDHug

[macgyver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0-ZatDHug

Holy shit I listened to that whole thing. This might be what you say to your late teen daughter not someone who's 11. Although, this exact same thing happened with my kid, like exactly that verbage, just it was my daughter leaving the message for me.

[SHAFT]

watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uytWxYKSupI

[ClydeR]

Did you see this Tweet from Trump?





http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo166/rmi08a/trump-north_korea-china-tweet_zpstzyptr8d.png
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/851767718248361986 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/851767718248361986)




U.S.A.!

[Androidpk]

US Deploys Two More Aircraft Carriers Toward Korean Peninsula: Yonhap

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/us-deploys-two-more-aircraft-carriers-toward-korean-peninsula-yonhap

[Taernath]

NK is a situation that should be resolved sooner rather than later. We've been kicking that particular can down the road for years now. It's going to be a huge humanitarian crisis though.

[Gelston]

NK is a situation that should be resolved sooner rather than later. We've been kicking that particular can down the road for years now. It's going to be a huge humanitarian crisis though.

It'd be something to do though.

[SHAFT]

NK is a situation that should be resolved sooner rather than later. We've been kicking that particular can down the road for years now. It's going to be a huge humanitarian crisis though.

60 something years. NK has been a problem for quite some time, but if you listen to our idiot-in-chief, it's all obama's fault.

[Tgo01]

60 something years. NK has been a problem for quite some time, but if you listen to our idiot-in-chief, it's all obama's fault.

Well I don't know if it's "all" Obama's fault, but he sure did as little as he could during his time in office.

North Korea tested a nuke during Bush's second term in office and shortly afterwards they were pressured into closing down their reactors.

Shortly after Obama took office North Korea started back up their nuclear program and tested another nuke. Since then they have conducted two or three more tests.

I'm not sure what Trump plans on doing about North Korea, but shit sure reached its boiling point on Obama's watch.

[Taernath]

60 something years. NK has been a problem for quite some time, but if you listen to our idiot-in-chief, it's all obama's fault.

The tension's always been there, but mostly from the '80s onward when they were hijacking planes and detonating bombs. The nuclear thing really kicked off under Bush II, but I don't necessarily fault him (or Obama) for not jumping in because were were already embroiled in Iraq & Afghanistan.

[Gelston]

So, the current Carrier Group off Korea is there because the one that is supposed to be there is undergoing repairs in Japan and the third on is actually thousands of miles from Kroea conducting routine exercises with Australia. There aren't 3 Carrier Groups heading to Korea and "Officials did, however, flatly deny reports that three U.S. carrier strike groups were being directed to mass off the Korean peninsula in a few weeks. "

There is exactly one carrier group operating around Korea.

[Androidpk]

So, the current Carrier Group off Korea is there because the one that is supposed to be there is undergoing repairs in Japan and the third on is actually thousands of miles from Kroea conducting routine exercises with Australia. There aren't 3 Carrier Groups heading to Korea and "Officials did, however, flatly deny reports that three U.S. carrier strike groups were being directed to mass off the Korean peninsula in a few weeks. "

There is exactly one carrier group operating around Korea.

I have it on good authority that Battlefleet Solarus is gathering above North Korea as we speak. God Emperor Trump has decided to drop the hammer on them.

[Neveragain]

God Emperor Trump.

God Emperor

God Emperor

God Emperor

God Emperor

[ClydeR]

Picture it. December 6, 1980. The nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz is on a training mission in the South Pacific near Hawaii. A bizarre storm strikes, disrupting all electronics on the ship. When the crew recovers from the storm, they discover that they have been sent back in time 39 years to....December 6, 1941! The day before Pearl Harbor. With 1980s technology, the aircraft carrier and its planes could easily stop the Japanese attack. But should they?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?Vj7_fxZWDsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7_fxZWDsc

That's what I think may be going on with the USS Carl Vinson, the missing Nimitz-class supercarrier. Donald Trump sent it and its "armada (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EVDj7dUyE)" back in time to a point before Kim Jung-un became unstoppable. With 21st Century technology, we can defeat baby Kim. How long do we have to wait before we know it worked?

[Gelston]

Picture it. December 6, 1980. The nuclear powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz is on a training mission in the South Pacific near Hawaii. A bizarre storm strikes, disrupting all electronics on the ship. When the crew recovers from the storm, they discover that they have been sent back in time 39 years to....December 6, 1941! The day before Pearl Harbor. With 1980s technology, the aircraft carrier and its planes could easily stop the Japanese attack. But should they?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7_fxZWDsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj7_fxZWDsc[/VIDEO]

That's what I think may be going on with the USS Carl Vinson, the missing Nimitz-class supercarrier. Donald Trump sent it and its "armada (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1EVDj7dUyE)" back in time to a point before Kim Jung-un became unstoppable. With 21st Century technology, we can defeat baby Kim. How long do we have to wait before we know it worked?

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder651/500x/55636651/south-park-drugs-are-bad-drugs-are-bad-mkay.jpg

[Androidpk]

North Korea with another ballistic missile test. Unlike Obama I don't think Trump is going to tuck tail and run on this one.

[Ardwen]

And how many South Koreans dying is acceptable should we attack the north? Because there is zero chance none would die. Sanctions won't work, because Kim doesn't give a shit how poorly his people live, and they blindly follow whatever he says.

[Gelston]

And how many South Koreans dying is acceptable should we attack the north? Because there is zero chance none would die. Sanctions won't work, because Kim doesn't give a shit how poorly his people live, and they blindly follow whatever he says.

A lot less than waiting for them to have a full nuclear arsenal. Also before they can hit the US too.

[Androidpk]

And how many South Koreans dying is acceptable should we attack the north? Because there is zero chance none would die. Sanctions won't work, because Kim doesn't give a shit how poorly his people live, and they blindly follow whatever he says.

People might die in a war? Holy shit that is a hell of an astute observation, Ardy.

[Parkbandit]

And how many South Koreans dying is acceptable should we attack the north? Because there is zero chance none would die. Sanctions won't work, because Kim doesn't give a shit how poorly his people live, and they blindly follow whatever he says.

Well, we could go with the Obama Doctrine of appeasement, apology and drawing pretty red lines.. but looks where that's gotten us...

[Goku]

A war with North Korea is a de facto war with China and eventually Russia as well, most layman person and Americans just don't understand this. It's why a North Korean or North China conflict as it were will never happen because it's effectively a prelude to World War 3.

[Gelston]

A war with North Korea is a de facto war with China and eventually Russia as well, most layman person and Americans just don't understand this. It's why a North Korean or North China conflict as it were will never happen because it's effectively a prelude to World War 3.

Except not. Russia and China are starting to pressure them a lot more. China wouldn't defend them. They may bitch, but we are more important to them than N Korea.

[Androidpk]

The Chinese government is siding on Trump on this one.

[Tgo01]

I think over the course of the past 8 years people have forgotten that the US holds a lot of influence in the world and the rest of the world (mostly) looks to the US for leadership.

If our stance on North Korea is just more "Let's wait and see" then the rest of the world will take the same stance.

If our stance on North Korea changes to "Okay enough is enough" then (most) of the rest of the world will take the same stance.

I'm not saying this as a patriotic American who thinks the US is the greatest, even though it's true, it's just the reality of things.

I'm also not suggesting that the rest of the world is going to join us if we decide to attack North Korea, which I doubt is going to happen anyways, but they will either support us or do the usual public denouncement to score points with their own voters while secretly agreeing with us.

China gains nothing by defending North Korea in this situation and stands to lose a hell of a lot. Same goes for Russia. If Russia thinks they are hurting now because of US and EU sanctions just wait until they side with North Korea over this, or worse yet sends in troops to help the North Korean government.

[Androidpk]

The aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan is moving to join the USS Carl Vinson off the Korean peninsula.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/uss-ronald-reagan-duel-carrier-training-korea/index.html

[Androidpk]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBRiOxCVYAU8NJi.jpg

[ClydeR]

North Korea's leader issued a new crazy sounding threat against the United States..


North Korea's state-run KCNA news agency said the country's missile launches were a "stern warning to the US," and warned Washington against "believing that its land is safe across the ocean."

"(North Korea) will make the US pay dearly for all the heinous crimes it commits against the state and people of this country," KCNA said.

More... (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4198241/north-korea-vows-to-make-america-pay-for-sanctions-as-trump-says-us-must-be-tough-and-decisive-on-crackpot-kim-jong-un/)



I'm just glad we have President Trump to respond with the measured reason that is to be expected from a superpower..


"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States," warned Mr. Trump from his golf club in Bedminster.

"They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen," he told reporters. "He has been very threatening -- beyond a normal statement," Mr. Trump said of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. "As I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before."

More... (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-warns-north-korea-will-be-met-with-fire-and-fury/)

You can tell by Trump's body language that he meant it. In fact, his body language suggests that he has reviewed and approved military plans to attack North Korea.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO6Or6rtcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFO6Or6rtcg


"The likes of which this world has never seen before." Quick! Somebody make a video compilation of movie villains saying the same thing.

[Androidpk]

Fire and fury!

Who the hell let Trump watch the latest GoT before giving that presser?

[Tgo01]

Fire and fury!

Who the hell let Trump watch the latest GoT before giving that presser?

Hey that's MY president!

[time4fun]

We're 7 months in, and he's threatening war.

This isn't good.

[Taernath]

We're 7 months in, and he's threatening war.

This isn't good.

You're angry at TRUMP?

[Tgo01]

We're 7 months in, and he's threatening war.

This isn't good.

We've been at war since day 1 of Obama's administration and you're just now bitching?

[drauz]

We're 7 months in, and he's threatening war.

This isn't good.

I know right, its not like they are getting close to a nuclear weapon or anything... oh wait, they are?!

[Taernath]

I know right, its not like they are getting close to a nuclear weapon or anything... oh wait, they are?!

They've had a nuclear weapon for a while, the latest thing was being able to put it on a missile that can carry it to the US.

[time4fun]

I know right, its not like they are getting close to a nuclear weapon or anything... oh wait, they are?!

You understand that someone else having nuclear warheads is a reason NOT to threaten war, right?

[drauz]

They've had a nuclear weapon for a while, the latest thing was being able to put it on a missile that can carry it to the US.

I meant an inter-continental missile to carry it, I wasn't clear.


You understand that someone else having nuclear warheads is a reason NOT to threaten war, right?

This is the time, BEFORE they have inter-continental capability.

[time4fun]

I meant an inter-continental missile to carry it, I wasn't clear.



This is the time, BEFORE they have inter-continental capability.

No, it's not.

It's REALLY not.

As another poster pointed out- the geopolitical consequences of going to war with North Korea are significant.

Are you seriously NOT tired of war yet? How many damn wars are we going to get into? And this time with a country that has nuclear capabilities AND a leader even more unstable than our own.

[Androidpk]

You understand that someone else having nuclear warheads is a reason NOT to threaten war, right?

It isn't just them having nukes, it's them having nukes and threatening to use them.

[Tgo01]

You understand that someone else having nuclear warheads is a reason NOT to threaten war, right?

So in time4fun land if someone threatens the world enough you stop going up against them the moment they develop a nuke?

Sounds legit. Let's reward little tyrants!

[Taernath]

No, it's not.

It's REALLY not.

As another poster pointed out- the geopolitical consequences of going to war with North Korea are significant.

Are you seriously NOT tired of war yet? How many damn wars are we going to get into? And this time with a country that has nuclear capabilities AND a leader even more unstable than our own.

I'd rather not trust in the sanity/stability of the NK regime to NOT launch a nuke.

[hello]

Fire and fury!

Who the hell let Trump watch the latest GoT before giving that presser?

Mueller: When we went to impeach he was saying the same thing he'd been saying for hours, "Burn them all!"

[Parkbandit]

You understand that someone else having nuclear warheads is a reason NOT to threaten war, right?

We need a President who is strong enough to say there is a red line.. and be very upset when that red line is crossed. That type of appeasement has kept this country safe for 8 years now!

[SHAFT]

We've been at war since day 1 of Obama's administration and you're just now bitching?

Thanks, Dubya. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, George.

[Tgo01]

Thanks, Dubya. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, George.

I think you forgot someone.

[Wrathbringer]

Thanks, Dubya. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, George.

You lost get over it already. Tears so sweet!

[Parkbandit]

I think you forgot someone.

NO WAY! OBAMA DID NO WRONG IN SHAFT'S EYES!

Still
So
Salty.

[SHAFT]

I think you forgot someone.

You already mentioned obama.

The war obama was in when he started his presidency was started by George HW Bush. The US during HW and clinton's regime both stated the US would leave the "Holy Lands" and never did.

So you have 9/11, which leads to Iraq invasion. So yes, at the start of Obama's presidency he was at war.

I fail to see how that is Obama's fault though.

[Tgo01]

I fail to see how that is Obama's fault though.

I guess W also forced Obama to get us involved in Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia.

Also Obama is the only president in history to be at war for every single day of his 2 terms in office. I suppose that's Bush's fault too.

Why do you defend Obama so much?

[drauz]

No, it's not.

It's REALLY not.

As another poster pointed out- the geopolitical consequences of going to war with North Korea are significant.

Are you seriously NOT tired of war yet? How many damn wars are we going to get into? And this time with a country that has nuclear capabilities AND a leader even more unstable than our own.

Everything has consequences. They have threatened us with a nuke. They don't currently have the ability to get it to us, but you're right lets wait until they can to worry about them.

I am sick of wars that have no point. Not every conflict is equal in this regard.

I don't like war, that doesn't mean it isn't sometimes necessary.

[Taernath]

Also Obama is the only president in history to be at war for every single day of his 2 terms in office. I suppose that's Bush's fault too.


Well, Afghanistan was started by Bush, so...

[drauz]

Technically it was a conflict, not a war. Unless I am mistaken.

[Tgo01]

Well, Afghanistan was started by Bush, so...

JFK inherited the Vietnam war from Eisenhower but he was smart enough to get assassinated rather than go through 8 years at war.

LBJ inherited the Vietnam war from JFK but was lucky enough to not be able to serve a full 8 years.

Nixon inherited the Vietnam war from LBJ but had the good sense to get impeached before serving a full 8 years while at war.

So really it is Obama's fault he served 8 years while at war.

[Gelston]

Well, Afghanistan was started by Bush, so...

Except he "ended" the wars, but like... Never really ended them.


Technically it was a conflict, not a war. Unless I am mistaken.

There hasn't been an actual "declared war" by the US since WW2.

[Taernath]

Technically it was a conflict, not a war. Unless I am mistaken.

One of the goals was to remove the Taliban from power.

[Savageheart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PbdyJ_ybSI

[Tgo01]

Did you know Buenos Aires means "good airs"?

[Gelston]

Did you know Buenos Aires means "good airs"?

No, it means the only good bug is a dead bug.

[Taernath]

Did you know Buenos Aires means "good airs"?

It means Whale's Vagina.

[Archigeek]

8787

That about sums it up.

(May be NSF, kinda.)

[Berubeo21]

None of this would be happening if it wasn't for global warming.

[drauz]

http://i.imgur.com/s9UJQu2.gif

also

http://i.imgur.com/LY5v7g6.gif

[SHAFT]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/2431ABD6-075E-40CC-A2B1-A6A7B29815D9.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/2431ABD6-075E-40CC-A2B1-A6A7B29815D9.jpg.html)

[Androidpk]

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x176/shaft4783/2431ABD6-075E-40CC-A2B1-A6A7B29815D9.jpg (http://s184.photobucket.com/user/shaft4783/media/2431ABD6-075E-40CC-A2B1-A6A7B29815D9.jpg.html)


.

[Androidpk]

Best thing to do would be to convene an emergency UN/NATO meeting instead of this back and forth tit tat between these 2 stooges.

[ClydeR]

https://media.giphy.com/media/mINOuUqE68Xa8/giphy.gif

[Latrinsorm]

^ needs more nucular

[Ashliana]

http://i.imgur.com/s9UJQu2.gif

also

http://i.imgur.com/LY5v7g6.gif

:rofl: What is the 2nd one from?

[RichardCranium]

:rofl: What is the 2nd one from?

Key & Peele, although I can't find that one on YouTube.

This one reminds me of the PC in general.

https://youtu.be/RlTbJZ64sVM

[RichardCranium]

http://i.imgur.com/IrducP4.jpg

[~Rocktar~]

Apparently they may have gotten a massive boost in their capabilities from a Ukranian missile plant that used to make the Soviet Union/Russian Federation's ICBM's

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html


Analysts who studied photographs of the North’s leader, Kim Jong-un, inspecting the new rocket motors concluded that they derive from designs that once powered the Soviet Union’s missile fleet. The engines were so powerful that a single missile could hurl 10 thermonuclear warheads between continents.

Those engines were linked to only a few former Soviet sites. Government investigators and experts have focused their inquiries on a missile factory in Dnipro, Ukraine, on the edge of the territory where Russia is fighting a low-level war to break off part of Ukraine. During the Cold War, the factory made the deadliest missiles in the Soviet arsenal, including the giant SS-18. It remained one of Russia’s primary producers of missiles even after Ukraine gained independence.

Further in the article:


Bolstering his conclusion, he added, was a finding by United Nations investigators that North Korea tried six years ago to steal missile secrets from the Ukrainian complex. Two North Koreans were caught, and a U.N. report said the information they tried to steal was focused on advanced “missile systems, liquid-propellant engines, spacecraft and missile fuel supply systems.”

So maybe everyone should really consider that this foot loop has or will have very shortly, real missiles and likely other tech to drop nukes on the US or the rest of the world. Amazing how ignoring Putin's little war of conquest in Ukraine and basically blocking the Ukraine from joining Nato is going to bite us in the ass.

[Androidpk]

Apparently they may have gotten a massive boost in their capabilities from a Ukranian missile plant that used to make the Soviet Union/Russian Federation's ICBM's

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/world/asia/north-korea-missiles-ukraine-factory.html



Further in the article:



So maybe everyone should really consider that this foot loop has or will have very shortly, real missiles and likely other tech to drop nukes on the US or the rest of the world. Amazing how ignoring Putin's little war of conquest in Ukraine and basically blocking the Ukraine from joining Nato is going to bite us in the ass.


Two things to note.

1. I've been told that factory has ties to Yanukovich and Russia.
2. When Ukraine turned over it's nuclear weapons some of those missiles ended up in warehouses in Russia.

And speaking of Ukraine I hope Trump does the right thing and approves lethal military aid RSN.

[Androidpk]

NK just tested another nuke, their largest one to date. Might have been a hydrogen bomb, would be their first time testing one.

[ClydeR]

Trump promised that he would not allow North Korea to have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US. It is time for him to honor that promise. It is the most important part of his job. We should accept no excuses.

[Shaps]

Trump promised that he would not allow North Korea to have a nuclear weapon capable of reaching the US. It is time for him to honor that promise. It is the most important part of his job. We should accept no excuses.

I think a genius stroke would be for Trump to appoint Obama as a special envoy to North Korea. Then Obama heads to NK with Dennis Rodman, where they proceed to host a charity basketball game. We send in Christian Bale disguised as their cameraman and he proceeds to assassinate Kim Jong using a BAT-er-rang. We then send in Seal Team 9 (they're so secret Seal Team 6 is jealous) to turn off the one working light in NK and exfil the trio under cover of darkness. We then hire Judd Apatow to write the screenplay.

[Androidpk]

The mountain that is used as a test site for their nukes is at risk of collapsing according to Chinese scientists. If that were to happen radiation from the explosions would leak out and spread across the region.

[Gelston]

The mountain that is used as a test site for their nukes is at risk of collapsing according to Chinese scientists. If that were to happen radiation from the explosions would leak out and spread across the region.

North Korea shall henceforth be referred to as Mordor.

[Kembal]

The mountain that is used as a test site for their nukes is at risk of collapsing according to Chinese scientists. If that were to happen radiation from the explosions would leak out and spread across the region.

This, ironically, would be the one thing that gets China to move on this. Don't think they can put up with irradiated citizens right now, esp. this close to Xi Jinpeng getting his second term as Premier. (that happens mid. Oct.)

[ClydeR]

Trump smacked down his Secretary of State this morning.


The tweets came the day after Tillerson, on a visit to Beijing, told reporters the administration had direct lines of communication with North Korea and was probing for a response. “We ask, ‘Would you like to talk?’” he said. “We can talk to them, we do talk to them.”

More... (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-contradicts-tillerson-on-north-korea-the-latest-in-a-series-of-put-downs/2017/10/01/1f11f886-a6bb-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html)





https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLDzAEWVYAA3OA_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLDzr8QVAAAlV4R.jpg

[ClydeR]

With his threat this morning to pull federal assistance from Puerto Rico, Trump sent a strong warning to Kim Jong-un. The warning was that if he's willing to do that to American citizens who cannot vote, then he's not concerned about collateral damage to civilians in North and South Korea.





https://i.imgur.com/d0Xqk8c.png

[ClydeR]

Sobering comments from Sen. Graham:


JOHN DICKERSON: North Korea. Where are we with North Korea right now?

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: We're getting close to military conflict because North Korea is marching toward marrying up the technology of an ICBM with the nuclear weapon on top that cannot only get to America, but deliver the weapon. We're running out of time. McMaster said that yesterday. I'm going to urge the Pentagon not to send any more dependents to South Korea. South Korea should be unaccompanied tour. It's crazy to send spouses and children to South Korea, given the provocation in North Korea. So, I want them to stop sending dependents. And I think it's now time to start moving American dependents out of the South Korea."

JOHN DICKERSON: How close? You say we're getting close to military confrontation. What's-- what-- what are we talking about here?

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM: The intelligence community can tell you that better than I can. But I had extensive discussion with the administration about this topic. The policy of the Trump administration is to deny North Korea the capability to hit America with a nuclear-tipped missile. Not to contain it. Denial means pre-emptive war as a last resort. That preemption is becoming more likely as their technology matures. Every missile test, every underground test of a nuclear weapon means the marriage is more likely. I think we're really running out of time. The Chinese are trying, but ineffectively. If there's an underground nuclear test then you need to get ready for a very serious response by United States.

More... (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-december-3-2017-transcript/)

[~Rocktar~]

Thanks Bill Clinton.

[Parkbandit]

The thing is I can't really be mad at him at a personal level because he reminds me so much of my grandpa. He's 89 years old, lived through WW2, just shy of being drafted but has that WW2 generation "can-do" spirit. Just crushes open that Ipad box I got him for Christmas: mumble grumble "I can do this myself! I know what I'm doing! just sit down pansy man!"

It's endearing when you look at his shaking hands and frail form struggling even to turn on the damn thing, you tear up and you just want to hold him and say, "Yes you can grandpa! Yes you can!"

All I got out of that was that even your grandfather refers to you as "pansy man".

I'm not surprised.

At all.

[ClydeR]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSk8v-UU8AAbXtb.jpg


Our button is bigger!

War is diplomacy by other means, or so I've been told.

[~Rocktar~]

Hummmmm, I wonder how much air time this will get, especially since it seems that Trump's tactics seem to be producing some results?


(CNN)President Donald Trump has agreed to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un by May, the White House and the South Korean national security adviser said Thursday evening.

"President Trump greatly appreciates the nice words of the South Korean delegation and President Moon. He will accept the invitation to meet with Kim Jong Un at a place and time to be determined. We look forward to the denuclearization of North Korea. In the meantime, all sanctions and maximum pressure must remain," White House press secretary Sarah Sanders announced in a statement.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/08/politics/donald-trump-kim-jong-un/index.html

[Taernath]

Hummmmm, I wonder how much air time this will get, especially since it seems that Trump's tactics seem to be producing some results?

Uh... it's all the news stations have been talking about for the past couple of days. That and his tariffs.

But boy oh boy I can't wait for him to have another tantrum on the world's stage.

[cwolff]

He'll chicken out in the last minute. This is just a publicity stunt.

They're already backpedaling. This fucking guy gets all excited like a child and tells the reporters about his "big news". Then the adults throw some cold water on his bullshit and today, less than 24 hours later, they're adding their caveats. What an idiot.

Check this shit out:


I had feared and assumed that President Trump had agreed to the meeting without consulting any of his top foreign policy advisors. It turns out to have been even stupider than I had imagined.
He didn’t just not ask. There doesn’t even seem to have been an actual invitation – or at least that was not what the South Koreans believed they were coming to discuss. The President ordered the South Korean representative, Mr. Chung, to the Oval Office and proceeded to quiz him about his meeting with Kim. Chung mentioned Kim’s eagerness to meet with Trump and Trump said he would do it. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/white-house-now-trying-to-moonwalk-back-trumps-summit-goof

[cwolff]

And check out this dumb cunt. Doing neg rep like a bitch.

Thread: Trump Will Totally Fix North Korea
If you could stem the shart flow by cementing your ass shut that would be great. Thanks. - Wrathbringer

[Wrathbringer]

And check out this dumb cunt. Doing neg rep like a bitch.

Thread: Trump Will Totally Fix North Korea
If you could stem the shart flow by cementing your ass shut that would be great. Thanks. - Wrathbringer

:lol: :lol: :lol: I love how you get so butthurt over rep.

ETA: lol @ your rep

[cwolff]

:lol: :lol: :lol: I love how you get so butthurt over rep.

It's simply indicative of a cowardly soul. By all means keep it up. You all have been slacking off a lot lately.

[Wrathbringer]

It's simply indicative of a cowardly soul. By all means keep it up.

Don't worry, I will. :)

[Parkbandit]

President Trump has gotten further with North Korea than all the past US Presidents combined in the past 30 years.

I'm still not tired of winning yet.

[~Rocktar~]

It's simply indicative of a cowardly soul. By all means keep it up. You all have been slacking off a lot lately.

Cowards don't sign rep dumbass.

[BigWorm]

President Trump has gotten further with North Korea than all the past US Presidents combined in the past 30 years.

I'm still not tired of winning yet.

What exactly has been achieved here?

[cwolff]

Cowards don't sign rep dumbass.

He didn't sign it dumbass.

[~Rocktar~]

He didn't sign it dumbass.

Willfully falsifying evidence to suit your agenda? What are you, CNN?

[cwolff]

Willfully falsifying evidence to suit your agenda? What are you, CNN?

There you go, defending your little buddies again. Of course you don't know what you're talking about but that never stops you

[~Rocktar~]

There you go, defending your little buddies again. Of course you don't know what you're talking about but that never stops you

Again you confuse attacking your lame ass with defending others. They don't need defending. You are just plain sad dumbass.

[cwolff]

Again you confuse attacking your lame ass with defending others. They don't need defending. You are just plain sad dumbass.

It's how you roll. You keep doing it too. "he's not a coward if he signed it" wah wah wah. Defending your bitches then denying it. WTF is wrong in your head?

[cwolff]

Most likely, however, is that the White House is about to walk right into a trap the North Koreans have been laying for American presidents since the 1990s. A one-on-one summit between a U.S. president and one of the world’s weirdest and most irresponsible leaders would be a huge reward for a regime that has long chided other rogues and dictators for their weakness in dealing with the United States. (When Moammar Gadhafi of Libya was torn to pieces by his own people after NATO weakened his army, Kim taunted the world by noting that Gadhafi should have kept his nuclear program.)
Such a meeting would legitimize not only Kim’s regime, but his methods. No matter how the White House spins it, the North Koreans will claim a huge victory in getting Trump to bend to their will.

Ya, trump will fuck it up and claim victory. The trumpanzees will worship him for it no matter how this goes. Good, bad, indifferent...the trumpanzee will echo whatever trump b.s. comes out of his mouth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/03/09/north-korea-sets-dangerous-trap-trump-disaster-more-likely-than-nobel-prize-tom-nichols-column/409792002/

[~Rocktar~]

It's how you roll. You keep doing it too. "he's not a coward if he signed it" wah wah wah. Defending your bitches then denying it. WTF is wrong in your head?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Some Rogue]

That is three horts worth of Ha's, you should be honored.

[Wrathbringer]

Again you confuse attacking your lame ass with defending others. They don't need defending. You are just plain sad dumbass.

This is correct.

[RichardCranium]

Ya, trump will fuck it up and claim victory. The trumpanzees will worship him for it no matter how this goes. Good, bad, indifferent...the trumpanzee will echo whatever trump b.s. comes out of his mouth.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/03/09/north-korea-sets-dangerous-trap-trump-disaster-more-likely-than-nobel-prize-tom-nichols-column/409792002/

Not that I care, I hope they try to Fidel Castro his ass; How does a meeting legitimize North Korea's regime to anyone but North Korea?

[cwolff]

Not that I care, I hope they try to Fidel Castro his ass; How does a meeting legitimize North Korea's regime to anyone but North Korea?

It's in the article. I won't quote it but you can check it out if you are inclined.

They've been a mad little hermit kingdom for three generations now. That's no longer the case. They're demonstrating that they've stood up to the USA and are getting their place at the table. For them it's only a win politically. It also signals to every little ambitious dictator out there to go get him some nukes. Your negotiating positions are WAYYY better if you back them up with WMDs.

[RichardCranium]

I think you're giving them and their nuclear program too much credit.

[cwolff]

I think you're giving them and their nuclear program too much credit.

Not just me. The entire Administration and the past administration. Trump is definitely giving their program a lot of credit. I don't think that can be denied.

[Wrathbringer]

Not just me. The entire Administration and the past administration. Trump is definitely giving their program a lot of credit. I don't think that can be denied.

Cut some farts.

[Latrinsorm]

President Trump has gotten further with North Korea than all the past US Presidents combined in the past 30 years.

I'm still not tired of winning yet.Promised to cut government spending, a concrete act that would have a direct impact on you.
Lied.
Announces that he will have a meeting with North Korea.
And you go right back to caping up for him.

:lol:

[~Rocktar~]

. . . Your negotiating positions are WAYYY better if you back them up with WMDs.

This is nothing new, every two bit dictator since the 50's has known this. You act like this is something new.

[RichardCranium]

Do you think he'll get a Nobel Peace Prize?

[Parkbandit]

Do you think he'll get a Nobel Peace Prize?

Only liberals and outlaws get that prize.

I think it's hilarious that President Trump has gotten farther with North Korea in less than 2 years than all US Presidents in the past 25 years combined.

#Winning

[Taernath]

Only liberals and outlaws get that prize.

I think it's hilarious that President Trump has gotten farther with North Korea in less than 2 years than all US Presidents in the past 25 years combined.

#Winning

Getting China to actually adhere to NK sanctions is worthy of praise, but there are a lot of unanswered questions about the whole situation. I don't think what's going on is entirely due to Trump.

[Parkbandit]

Getting China to actually adhere to NK sanctions is worthy of praise, but there are a lot of unanswered questions about the whole situation. I don't think what's going on is entirely due to Trump.

Well, it certainly isn't from the last administration.. so who should be give credit to?

I have a lot of issues with President Trump.. but this is all him and his administration.

[Taernath]

Well, it certainly isn't from the last administration.. so who should be give credit to?


Hard to say. There are rumors that site collapse a few months ago destroyed their nuclear program, or that China told Kim to knock it the fuck off during his visit last month. Maybe things were getting bad enough over there the sanctions finally broke him. There's no RoK ambassador and Trump's NK advisor stepped down a couple of months ago, so I have a hard time believing getting trolled on twitter is what drove Kim to talk about disarmament.

[rolfard]

Only liberals and outlaws get that prize.

I think it's hilarious that President Trump has gotten farther with North Korea in less than 2 years than all US Presidents in the past 25 years combined.

#Winning

It's hilarious because ignorance is bliss

[Neveragain]

Hard to say. There are rumors that site collapse a few months ago destroyed their nuclear program, or that China told Kim to knock it the fuck off during his visit last month. Maybe things were getting bad enough over there the sanctions finally broke him. There's no RoK ambassador and Trump's NK advisor stepped down a couple of months ago, so I have a hard time believing getting trolled on twitter is what drove Kim to talk about disarmament.

I'm pretty sure it was all Dennis Rodman.

https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Dennis-Rodman-v-Kim-Jung-Un.jpg

[Parkbandit]

Hard to say. There are rumors that site collapse a few months ago destroyed their nuclear program, or that China told Kim to knock it the fuck off during his visit last month. Maybe things were getting bad enough over there the sanctions finally broke him. There's no RoK ambassador and Trump's NK advisor stepped down a couple of months ago, so I have a hard time believing getting trolled on twitter is what drove Kim to talk about disarmament.

Wait.. you believe that President Trump's only "Diplomacy" takes place on Twitter?

I doubt that has anything to do with this.

[Parkbandit]

It's hilarious because ignorance is bliss

I wouldn't know.. but since you are an expert, I'll take your word for it.

What's it like?

[Taernath]

Wait.. you believe that President Trump's only "Diplomacy" takes place on Twitter?

I doubt that has anything to do with this.

Well, what do you believe is going on?

[~Rocktar~]

Do you think he'll get a Nobel Peace Prize?

Trump could bring world peace, end world hunger, cure cancer, help everyone on the planet find their soul mate, invent free power and give away the invention to every human being AND resign from the Presidency and he would not likely get anything from the media or Liberals other than grief over why it took him so long.

So likely no.

[cwolff]

Listen to you dipshits crying and whining because trump doesn't have the Nobel Peace prize.

"You have to be a liberal, wahh wahh"

Poor downtrodden victims.

Tell you what, if the peninsula de-nukes, he'll get the peace prize. Don't you worry about that.

[Fortybox]

Listen to you dipshits crying and whining because trump doesn't have the Nobel Peace prize.

"You have to be a liberal, wahh wahh"

Poor downtrodden victims.

Tell you what, if the peninsula de-nukes, he'll get the peace prize. Don't you worry about that.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/14nvd5FCcDpFlu/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Well, what do you believe is going on?

According to multiple sources with the S. Korean government and the Chinese government, it was President Trump's focus, drive and pressure on this from the very beginning.

[cwolff]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/14nvd5FCcDpFlu/giphy.gif

Exactly!


By collecting high-quality seismic data and examining satellite imagery before and after the tests, scientists were able to determine where these earthquake swarms occurred and that they were indeed caused by the tests. Past tests have altered the area’s capacity to withstand tectonic stress to the extent that previously inactive tectonic faults have reached a state of “critical failure”. Further disturbances and future nuclear testing in the region could generate more destructive earthquakes.

“Given the history of the nuclear tests North Korea performed beneath this mountain, a nuclear test of a similar yield would produce collapses in an even larger scale creating an environmental catastrophe,” says the paper

NK fucked their shit up. Now they'll try to get paid.

[Fortybox]

Exactly!



NK fucked their shit up. Now they'll try to get paid.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/YlojilPIROkKc/giphy.gif

[Taernath]

According to multiple sources with the S. Korean government and the Chinese government, it was President Trump's focus, drive and pressure on this from the very beginning.

What specifically did he do though? People are talking like he cast Power Word: Disarm and Kim wasn't high enough level to resist it. I believe there's an interesting story here, but NONE of it makes sense with just traditional diplomacy.

[Gelston]

What specifically did he do though? People are talking like he cast Power Word: Disarm and Kim wasn't high enough level to resist it. I believe there's an interesting story here, but NONE of it makes sense with just traditional diplomacy.

That is what he did though.

[Parkbandit]

What specifically did he do though? People are talking like he cast Power Word: Disarm and Kim wasn't high enough level to resist it. I believe there's an interesting story here, but NONE of it makes sense with just traditional diplomacy.

It's probably a combination of things. Maybe President Trump is in the right place at the right time.

Maybe it's the collapse of their nuclear testing site.

Maybe after 30 years the sanctions finally worked?

Maybe after President Trump successfully negotiated the Chinese involvement?

Maybe after President Trump successfully motivated the S. Koreans to begin discussions?

Don't know. I'm with you though, there sounds to be a very interesting story here.

[Parkbandit]

Or Trump isn’t as stupid as the drive-by liberal media makes him out to be...

In before your new account gets

https://media.giphy.com/media/hqDces1MY6cgw/giphy.gif

[Fortybox]

It's probably a combination of things. Maybe President Trump is in the right place at the right time.

Maybe it's the collapse of their nuclear testing site.

Maybe after 30 years the sanctions finally worked?

Maybe after President Trump successfully negotiated the Chinese involvement?

Maybe after President Trump successfully motivated the S. Koreans to begin discussions?

Don't know. I'm with you though, there sounds to be a very interesting story here.

Or time4dumb logic: Obama paved the way for Trump to be successful. It really was Obama (and Hillary) after all.

<insert Google search articles as proof>

[Methais]

Or time4dumb logic: Obama paved the way for Trump to be successful. It really was Obama (and Hillary) after all.

<insert Google search articles as proof>

Obama did kill Osama with his bare hands on a solo mission, so why would this not also be the case?

[Fortybox]

Obama did kill Osama with his bare hands on a solo mission, so why would this not also be the case?

And Hillary won the popular vote.

[~Rocktar~]

Obama did kill Osama with his bare hands on a solo mission, so why would this not also be the case?

Using a box as camouflage no less. He even got home in time for dinner and blunts.

[Fortybox]

Looks like a date is being set! Trump is actually doing something.

[Methais]

Looks like a date is being set! Trump is actually doing something.

TRUMP IS STEALING OBAMA'S GLORY!!!

[Fortybox]

TRUMP IS STEALING OBAMA'S GLORY!!!

I’m going to laugh so hard if he pulls this off. Watch the liberal media have a freak out.

This has potential to really have an effect on the midterms and next prez election.

[Gelston]

(CNN)South Korea's foreign minister has said she believes President Donald Trump is largely responsible for bringing North Korean leader Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table.

Speaking ahead of Friday's historic summit between the leaders of North and South Korea, Kang Kyung-wha told CNN that the US President had played a significant role in bringing the two sides together.

"Clearly, credit goes to President Trump," Kang told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Seoul. "He's been determined to come to grips with this from day one."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/world/korea-summit-kang-kyung-wha-amanpour-intl/index.html

[Methais]

(CNN)South Korea's foreign minister has said she believes President Donald Trump is largely responsible for bringing North Korean leader Kim Jong-un to the negotiating table.

Speaking ahead of Friday's historic summit between the leaders of North and South Korea, Kang Kyung-wha told CNN that the US President had played a significant role in bringing the two sides together.

"Clearly, credit goes to President Trump," Kang told CNN's Christiane Amanpour in Seoul. "He's been determined to come to grips with this from day one."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/world/korea-summit-kang-kyung-wha-amanpour-intl/index.html

Someone get Mueller on the line, we need an investigation into South Korean collusion!!!!!

[Taernath]

Interesting article:

https://thediplomat.com/2018/04/north-koreas-currency-crisis-us-and-chinese-leverage/

[Neveragain]

Interesting article:

https://thediplomat.com/2018/04/north-koreas-currency-crisis-us-and-chinese-leverage/

Adam Smith wins again.

https://media.giphy.com/media/KJg6Znn4V1Jcs/giphy.gif

[Gelston]

SEOUL — South Korean President Moon Jae-in said President Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program, a South Korean official said Monday.

“President Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize. What we need is only peace,” Moon told a meeting of senior secretaries, according to a presidential Blue House official who briefed media.

Moon and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Friday pledged to end hostilities between the two countries and work towards the “complete denuclearization” of the Korean peninsula in the first inter-Korean summit in more than a decade.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-should-win-nobel-peace-prize-says-south-korea-s-n870036?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

[Fortybox]

SEOUL — South Korean President Moon Jae-in said President Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program, a South Korean official said Monday.

“President Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize. What we need is only peace,” Moon told a meeting of senior secretaries, according to a presidential Blue House official who briefed media.

Moon and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Friday pledged to end hostilities between the two countries and work towards the “complete denuclearization” of the Korean peninsula in the first inter-Korean summit in more than a decade.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-should-win-nobel-peace-prize-says-south-korea-s-n870036?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

The Nobel peace prize is all politics. That said, what Trump is accomplishing is amazing.

[Methais]

SEOUL — South Korean President Moon Jae-in said President Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program, a South Korean official said Monday.

“President Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize. What we need is only peace,” Moon told a meeting of senior secretaries, according to a presidential Blue House official who briefed media.

Moon and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Friday pledged to end hostilities between the two countries and work towards the “complete denuclearization” of the Korean peninsula in the first inter-Korean summit in more than a decade.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-should-win-nobel-peace-prize-says-south-korea-s-n870036?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma

Let me know when Trump does something worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize, like go on a worldwide apology tour and make a speech.

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01782/2009-obama_1782164i.jpg

[Fortybox]

Let me know when Trump does something worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize, like go on a worldwide apology tour and make a speech.

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01782/2009-obama_1782164i.jpg

Like I said, the award is all politics. Plenty of people who actually do something that don’t get awarded. Trump is a doer and the liberal left hates him for it.

[~Rocktar~]

All the hype is nice and it will be a good thing if it is real and it works. The South Korean leader is a Leftist and North Korea has played nice before to get paid. I hope they aren't Chamberlain/Hitler 2.0. Still, it's a major win just to get the guy to cross the border and meet even if it is all a ruse.

[Parkbandit]

The Nobel peace prize is all politics. That said, what Trump is accomplishing is amazing.

What Trump COULD accomplish is amazing.

I still don't trust Kim at all.

[~Rocktar~]

What Trump COULD accomplish is amazing.

I still don't trust Kim at all.

This is correct.

[cwolff]

Trump will certainly deserve the Nobel if he pulls this off. He may deserve it already. Even if there's an argument that he didn't do anything that wouldn't happen anyway, he's still POTUS and he's pushed this. It's also entirely possible that Kim would get it, or a combination of people. It's not a done deal but peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula is worth appreciating no matter who gets credit.

[Methais]

Trump will certainly deserve the Nobel if he pulls this off. He may deserve it already. Even if there's an argument that he didn't do anything that wouldn't happen anyway, he's still POTUS and he's pushed this. It's also entirely possible that Kim would get it, or a combination of people. It's not a done deal but peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula is worth appreciating no matter who gets credit.

Quoted to preserve this as the first time cwolff said something that wasn't retarded.

[cwolff]

BREAKING: KCNA says North Korea will "reconsider" summit with Trump if U.S. insists on it giving up nuclear program, says it will never give up its nuclear program in exchange for economic trade with the United States
7:22 PM - 15 May 2018

Interesting development.

[Parkbandit]

Interesting development.

You must be SO EXCITED about this!

[Methais]

You must be SO EXCITED about this!

https://pics.me.me/jack-posobiec-jackposobiec-how-long-before-a-federal-judge-in-32546162.png

cock&ballspondwolff would literally rather this happen because he's so butthurt.

[~Rocktar~]

Lulz!

[Gelston]

What the goddamn fuck, Trump. He pulled out of the fucking summit. What a fucking idiot. Can he not stfu for two fucking seconds? He had the motherfucker and he fucking blew it.

[Taernath]

What the goddamn fuck, Trump. He pulled out of the fucking summit. What a fucking idiot. Can he not stfu for two fucking seconds? He had the motherfucker and he fucking blew it.

lol, I bet it's a 'I'm breaking up with you, you're not breaking up with me' thing.

But really, there's no way this wouldn't have happened one way or another.

http://media.mlive.com/us-world-news/photo/ddvpmriu8aewchpjpg-87ef9e94921f0f9a.jpg

[RichardCranium]

What the goddamn fuck, Trump. He pulled out of the fucking summit. What a fucking idiot. Can he not stfu for two fucking seconds? He had the motherfucker and he fucking blew it.


"Sadly, based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time, to have this long-planned meeting," Trump wrote in the letter, which was released Thursday morning.

Art of the Deal, amirite?

[Gelston]

Art of the Deal, amirite?

I mean, he still should have went to see what the motherfucker had to say at least. Not put his dick between his own legs and waddle off like a bitch.

[RichardCranium]

I mean, he still should have went to see what the motherfucker had to say at least. Not put his dick between his own legs and waddle off like a bitch.

Words matter Gelston.

[Gelston]

Words matter Gelston.

And he should be listening to some words. He could have still told the dude to fuck off but went to the damn summit.

I think he thought Ding Dong in Noko was going to cancel the summit and he wanted to be the one to do it. Because no one breaks up with us.

[RichardCranium]

@marcorubio
4m4 minutes ago
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Kim Jun Un, in the words of a wise man “Congratulations, you just played yourself”. Withdrawing from talks with #NKorea is 100% the right decision. #KJU doesn’t want a deal. He has deliberately sabotaged the talks over the last two weeks & was setting us up to take the blame.

Lmaoooooooo, what a bunch of tools.

Also my posts before this were pure sarcasm, G.

[Gelston]

I was reading the replies to the fox news article on FB. Pretty much the same shit as Marco Rubio.

I'd have just liked for him to have listened. Even if the summit failed, at least we had someone there.

[ClydeR]

Dear Mr. Chairman:

We greatly appreciate your time, patience, and effort with respect to our recent negotiations and discussions relative to a summit long sought by both parties, which was scheduled to take place on June 12 in Singapore. We were informed that the meeting was requested by North Korea, but that to us is totally irrelevant. I was very much looking forward to being there with you. Sadly, based on the tremendous anger and open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time, to have this long-planned meeting. Therefore, please let this letter serve to represent that the Singapore summit, for the good of both parties, but to the detriment of the world, will not take place. You talk about your nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used.

More... (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/24/trump-says-singapore-summit-with-north-korea-leader-kim-is-cancelled-.html)

I can safely say that Trump didn't get somebody to write that letter for him.

[Parkbandit]

What the goddamn fuck, Trump. He pulled out of the fucking summit. What a fucking idiot. Can he not stfu for two fucking seconds? He had the motherfucker and he fucking blew it.

He's been pretty up front from the very beginning as to whether or not this summit will take place. He has said "We will just have to wait and see" about a thousand times.

We don't know what actually happened, but weren't all the people who were critical of this meeting saying that Trump shouldn't allow Kim to have such a world platform?

[Gelston]

He's been pretty up front from the very beginning as to whether or not this summit will take place. He has said "We will just have to wait and see" about a thousand times.

We don't know what actually happened, but weren't all the people who were critical of this meeting saying that Trump shouldn't allow Kim to have such a world platform?

He already has a world platform. This meeting wouldn't have changed that. All I wanted was for someone to listen to the motherfucker. You didn't have to give him a goddamn thing, but you could at least say "We tried" instead of "He said mean things!!!!". This is some pissed off teenager level bullshit.

[audioserf]

Disappointing but ultimately not surprising. I've kind of been assuming that these overtures of holding talks with NK were a ruse by Shadow President John Bolton to be able to say "well, we tried, we've exhausted diplomacy!" before taking military action.

[Gelston]

Disappointing but ultimately not surprising. I've kind of been assuming that these overtures of holding talks with NK were a ruse by Shadow President John Bolton to be able to say "well, we tried, we've exhausted diplomacy!" before taking military action.

The new NDAA is authorizing new lower yield nuclear weapons!

[Geijon]

Trump looked a bit silly even trying this, but it is of some surprise that the South Korean's seemed to have made progress with them.

[Parkbandit]

Trump looked a bit silly even trying this, but it is of some surprise that the South Korean's seemed to have made progress with them.

President Trump is a big risk taker. The only people he looked silly to are those who are still upset over the last election results still... and he probably couldn't give a shit about people like you. You aren't going to like him as President no matter what he does.

And it's not a surprise at all with South Korea's new leadership being more sympathetic with North Korea than in the past.

[Wrathbringer]

Honestly, I would’ve liked to hear what he had to say, remember all those broken deals were with his dad and grandpa both hardass hardliners. This guy is a mellenial educated in the most liberal place in the world surrounded by Western wealth and decadence. He’s also desperate with old time generals who’ve played this game before he was even alive jockeying for his spot. (assassination). Think he would’ve made a deal or even an SOS (let me leave NK with my swiss accounts intact, this place is batshit crazy!)

You're a pretty huge tard.

[Gelston]

Honestly, I would’ve liked to hear what he had to say, remember all those broken deals were with his dad and grandpa both hardass hardliners. This guy is a mellenial educated in the most liberal place in the world surrounded by Western wealth and decadence. He’s also desperate with old time generals who’ve played this game before he was even alive jockeying for his spot. (assassination). Think he would’ve made a deal or even an SOS (let me leave NK with my swiss accounts intact, this place is batshit crazy!)

go away macgyver

[cwolff]

Jesus Christ. Trumps a fucking idiot. Art of the deal, best negotiation guy got schooled.

[Back]

John Bolton will get America into an armed conflict if he can.

[cwolff]

John Bolton will get America into an armed conflict if he can.

He ain't no dove that's for sure.

[~Rocktar~]

And it's not a surprise at all with South Korea's new leadership being more sympathetic with North Korea than in the past.

South Korea's leadership is hugely Leftist and likely closer to Kim than Trump in ideology despite all their capitalist corporations raking in billions to support the unwashed masses.

[Gelston]

South Korea's leadership is hugely Leftist and likely closer to Kim than Trump in ideology despite all their capitalist corporations raking in billions to support the unwashed masses.

Closer, sure. In the same way that a molten steel is closer to an ice cube than the sun. They are still very few away in ideologies and he leans way more towards us then NoKo.

[~Rocktar~]

North Korea says Kim Jong Un is still willing to meet Donald Trump "at any time and in any way," after the US President abruptly canceled what would have been a historic summit between the two leaders scheduled for June.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/asia/north-korea-donald-trump-summit-intl/index.html

[Methais]

Jesus Christ. Trumps a fucking idiot. Art of the deal, best negotiation guy got schooled.

Shut up tofuaidslordwolff. People with penises are talking.


North Korea says Kim Jong Un is still willing to meet Donald Trump "at any time and in any way," after the US President abruptly canceled what would have been a historic summit between the two leaders scheduled for June.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/asia/north-korea-donald-trump-summit-intl/index.html

https://media.giphy.com/media/rAdCdWqjOkpoI/giphy.gif

[Parkbandit]

Shut up tofuaidslordwolff. People with penises are talking.


https://media.giphy.com/media/rAdCdWqjOkpoI/giphy.gif

He might have a penis.. he's missing his balls.

[cwolff]

South Korea's leadership is hugely Leftist and likely closer to Kim than Trump in ideology despite all their capitalist corporations raking in billions to support the unwashed masses.

This ones kind of a head scratcher. You're saying S Korean politics is closer to NK than ours?

Kim saying he's still willing to meet is an NK win in the perception department. Now he can appear reasonable and gracious. He must have read the Art of the Deal

[Gelston]

Aaaaaaaannnd it’s back on.

President Donald Trump told reporters Friday he remains open to holding a summit with North Korea's Kim Jong Un on June 12.

Art of the deal at work. 19th!! Dimension Chess!!!!! Dumb monkey gonna get played hard.

go away macgyver

[Methais]

Aaaaaaaannnd it’s back on.

President Donald Trump told reporters Friday he remains open to holding a summit with North Korea's Kim Jong Un on June 12.

Art of the deal at work. 19th!! Dimension Chess!!!!! Dumb monkey gonna get played hard.

In b4 rekt :lol:

[cwolff]

U.S. officials working to plan President Trump’s summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore have reportedly run into a logistical problem — who will pay for Kim's hotel?

The Washington Post reported Friday that the cash-strapped state requires a foreign country to cover the cost of their preferred accommodations.
A presidential suite at The Fullerton hotel, a five-star resort on a secluded island, can cost more than $6,000 a night.

The North Korean delegation may also need to travel on a plane provided by another country, the newspaper reported.
Two sources told the Post that the U.S. is open to covering the tab of the summit, but they noted that Pyongyang could also view the payment as an insult

Are we straight getting trolled here? The big ass letter, the offer of opening a burger joint and now they might get us to pay for their hotel and airfare. LMAO. Oh, but we can't directly pay, because that will be seen as an insult so we have to jump through some sorts of hoops to get it paid by someone else while Kim saves face. This shit is surreal.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/390363-trump-admin-searching-for-way-to-pay-for-kim-jong-uns-hotel-stay

[RichardCranium]

Are you fucking serious with this shit?

[cwolff]

Are you fucking serious with this shit?

I think it's serious but it's too out there. I'm expecting Ashton Kusher to jump out and tell us we've been Punk'd

[RichardCranium]

So you've never had business expenses?

[cwolff]

So you've never had business expenses?

Ya I have. What are you getting at?

[RichardCranium]

That paying for the meeting isn't the bullshit "omg wtf" moment you're portraying it as.

[cwolff]

That paying for the meeting isn't the bullshit "omg wtf" moment you're portraying it as.

Sure it is. They're trolling us with this crap. Like they can't afford a hotel for Kim and his staff, or flights. The whole thing is shady as fuck. What are we even meeting with them for if they can't pay for a damn hotel. They've cancelled and started and threatened and pulled back. We went from total denuclearization demands to meeting over a cheeseburger to see how it goes, but the thing is, we have to buy the burgers. Trumps getting played.

[RichardCranium]

He has gotten further with North Korea than any president, ever. You're being a fucking pussy strictly on the basis that it's Trump. Get over it.

[cwolff]

He has gotten further with North Korea than any president, ever. You're being a fucking pussy strictly on the basis that it's Trump. Get over it.

Further with what? You guys keep saying that. What have we gotten?

[Androidpk]

He has gotten further with North Korea than any president, ever.

Got some legitimate sources that can back up that crazy (and false) claim of yours?

[RichardCranium]

Further with South Korea. Am I taking crazy pills?

[Taernath]

Further with South Korea. Am I taking crazy pills?

South Korea or North Korea? I think you are taking crazy pills.

[RichardCranium]

South Korea or North Korea? I think you are taking crazy pills.

North Korea's relationship with South Korea. God damn.

[Taernath]

North Korea's relationship with South Korea. God damn.

South Korea has been doing a shitload of legwork in that regard. It was literally part of what Moon ran on.

[RichardCranium]

What's your point? China and the United States don't count?

[Androidpk]

What's your point? China and the United States don't count?

The point is Trump has not gotten further than any previous US president.

[RichardCranium]

The point is Trump has not gotten further than any previous US president.

Yes, he has. I'm not saying he did it on his own, but he did it. You don't get to discredit it just because he's a piece of shit.

[cwolff]

Count for what? Nothing is done here. China won't lost their buffer between us and them on the peninsula. NK wasn't even a real threat to nuke us but we're making Kim look great on the global stage and not even asking that he quit executing people with hungry dogs or AA weapons. All in all, Kim's got his nukes, China may get U.S. forces out of Korea, Russia's working a deal to build out infrastructure and we're still looking for a win. I think we're being played.

[RichardCranium]

Kim Jong Un doesn't have nukes lol.

[Androidpk]

Yes, he has. I'm not saying he did it on his own, but he did it. You don't get to discredit it just because he's a piece of shit.

I get to discredit it because there is literally nothing that suggests that he did anything to make it happen. If you have something to back up your claim, like I asked, feel free to share it.

[Androidpk]

Kim Jong Un doesn't have nukes lol.

Yeah.. you're taking crazy pills.

[Taernath]

What's your point? China and the United States don't count?

Are you talking about NK's nuclear program or their relationship with SK? Goddamn.

[RichardCranium]

I get to discredit it because there is literally nothing that suggests that he did anything to make it happen. If you have something to back up your claim, like I asked, feel free to share it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/04/27/politics/donald-trump-korea/index.html

It's CNN. Have at it.

[RichardCranium]

Are you talking about NK's nuclear program or their relationship with SK? Goddamn.

See above.

[cwolff]

If trump gets this done, NK gives up nukes, opens their borders and generally becomes a real functional member of the international community I'll give trump all the credit. For now, I'm skeptical af. Like Russia, trump's given too much power to this two bit player and I believe we'll get shit for the efforts

[Archigeek]

He has gotten further with North Korea than any president, ever. You're being a fucking pussy strictly on the basis that it's Trump. Get over it.

Wrong. Your fave Jimmy C got way way further. Right now it's all talk. Let's see what Trump can actually accomplish before we lay on the accolades.

[Taernath]

See above.

I believe he deserves credit for getting China to actually enforce sanctions. As far as "getting further", he's got what, a meeting that may or may not actually happen, that may or may not actually do anything? That's a really shitty metric you're using. NK has "given up" their nuclear program then brought it back multiple times over the past 20+ years. Maybe you want to wait until we're past that stage before declaring this a historic event.

[Androidpk]

The big reason why we are seeing anything right now is because their testing facility suffered a catastrophic collapse, destroying who knows how much of their testing equipment as well as hundreds of scientists and workers.

[cwolff]

They just put out some cool videos blowing up the entrance to their testing tunnels as "proof" of their commitment.


https://youtu.be/W6rRhdlL6Ic

[Parkbandit]

Wrong. Your fave Jimmy C got way way further.

He did? Isn't his deal what got us where we are today?



Right now it's all talk. Let's see what Trump can actually accomplish before we lay on the accolades.

I agree. It's all just talk right now. I think it's a very good thing that we're at least talking, something we have been unable to accomplish in the past 40 years.

Let's just wait and let this play out.

[Archigeek]

He did? Isn't his deal what got us where we are today?




I agree. It's all just talk right now. I think it's a very good thing that we're at least talking, something we have been unable to accomplish in the past 40 years.

Let's just wait and let this play out.

The last agreement was Jimmy Carter's. And it was an improvement over relations at the time. It's not his fault that no one since has been able to make progress.

Every president since then has gotten as far or further than Trump is now. Which isn't saying a whole lot.

[cwolff]

Kim's the Belle of the Ball right now. Meetings with China, Russia and now Assad (Russia's flunky) is coming for a visit. He's already won and hasn't even attended the negotiations yet. If Donnie's not careful Kim's going to snatch that Nobel Peace Prize from his tiny little fingers.


Syrian President Bashar al-Assad announced plans to visit North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, according to a report on Sunday.
“I am going to visit the DPRK and meet HE Kim Jong Un,” Assad said as he received the credentials of Pyongyang’s ambassador late last week, Reuters reported, citing North Korean state media.
“The world welcomes the remarkable events in the Korean peninsula brought about recently by the outstanding political caliber and wise leadership of HE Kim Jong Un,” Assad said, according the report.


“I am sure that he will achieve the final victory and realize the reunification of Korea without fail,” he added.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390437-north-korean-state-media-syrian-president-to-visit-kim

[Parkbandit]

The last agreement was Jimmy Carter's. And it was an improvement over relations at the time. It's not his fault that no one since has been able to make progress.

But it did nothing substantial to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons.. which is the problem we've had for the past 40 years.


Every president since then has gotten as far or further than Trump is now. Which isn't saying a whole lot.

Really? So each President has set up a face to face meeting with the NK leader? News to me.

With the South Korean backing as well as China's?

You might want to take your fingers out of your ears. I realize you dislike President Trump.. but what you are trying to say makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[Parkbandit]

Kim's the Belle of the Ball right now. Meetings with China, Russia and now Assad (Russia's flunky) is coming for a visit. He's already won and hasn't even attended the negotiations yet. If Donnie's not careful Kim's going to snatch that Nobel Peace Prize from his tiny little fingers.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/390437-north-korean-state-media-syrian-president-to-visit-kim

If it leads to North Korea coming around and being a normal country on this planet.. I have no problem with Kim getting a Peace Prize.

[Wrathbringer]

C-c-c-c-c-c-combobreaker!!!!!

[Parkbandit]

C-c-c-c-c-c-combobreaker!!!!!

Joke's on you.. I wasn't upset or mad or whatever emotion the liberaltardotrio puts on 3 posts in a row.

[cwolff]

Mattis is full of shit if he believes this. By now we all know that trump will do whatever he feels like and Mattis job will be to make excuses for it. He's neutered and might as well quit.


(Bloomberg) -- North Korea will get relief from international sanctions only when it has shown irreversible moves toward denuclearization, U.S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis said ahead of a summit next week between President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
…
His comments came after Trump conceded that North Korea won’t agree immediately to give up its nuclear arsenal, and seemingly walked back expectations for a quick deal from his planned June 12 Singapore meeting with Kim.
Asked Friday about the vaunted “maximum pressure” campaign of sanctions enacted to rein in North Korea, Trump said, “I don’t want to use that term. Because we’re getting along.”
The U.S. has previously insisted that North Korea give up all its weapons before it can shed its pariah status or get any relief from sanctions. North Korea has bristled at the idea, and it’s unclear if the two sides will be able to bridge their differences enough for the meeting to be deemed a success.
…
The summit was resurrected after Trump called it off in a letter to Kim on May 24, complaining of “the tremendous anger and open hostility” in comments from North Korea. But he had also left the door open, writing, “If you change your mind having to do with this most important summit, please do not hesitate to call me or write.”
Trump’s talk now of an open-ended process is a jarring shift from the speedy outcome that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and other officials demanded when the summit was in limbo. Trump didn’t say what he hopes to get out of the summit, nor did he talk about what the U.S. was prepared to give up, aside from musing about the possibility of a declaration ending the Korean War for good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-gets-relief-only-when-it-gives-up-nukes-mattis-says/ar-AAy9JkS?ocid=spartandhp

[Gelston]

Mattis is full of shit if he believes this. By now we all know that trump will do whatever he feels like and Mattis job will be to make excuses for it. He's neutered and might as well quit.



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korea-gets-relief-only-when-it-gives-up-nukes-mattis-says/ar-AAy9JkS?ocid=spartandhp

Mattis is a billion times better than you'll ever be.