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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    How did it fuck with "us" the American people exactly? All you and the rest of the brainrot of the Democrat party point to is USAID, which is a program to "help" foreign countries.
    USAID's mission is not to help foreign countries. USAID, or the United States Agency for International Development, has the mission to "promote and demonstrate democratic values abroad, and advance a free, peaceful, and prosperous world."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    You keep misunderstanding the opposition to DOGE. Everyone wants to cut "waste, fraud, and abuse" to use a phrase you all like to mindlessly parrot. But the argument against DOGE is it HOW and WHAT to cut. Thats it.
    Help me understand your argument... which specific cuts that DOGE recommended that has you this upset. Here's a little part of the list:

    Programs and Initiatives DOGE Recommended to Stop



    Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility (DEIA/DEI) Programs


    Description: DOGE targeted contracts and grants related to DEI initiatives across multiple federal agencies, claiming they were wasteful or misaligned with priorities.
    Claimed Savings: Approximately $1 billion from canceling 85 DEIA-related contracts at over a dozen federal agencies. Additionally, $203 million in National Science Foundation (NSF) DEI grants were terminated.
    Cost to Taxpayers: No direct cost to taxpayers for these cancellations is specified, but critics argue that slashing DEI programs may reduce workplace inclusivity and long-term economic benefits, though these are not quantified. Indirect costs include potential legal challenges and loss of program benefits, which are not detailed in available data.

    USAID Programs


    Description: DOGE recommended significant cuts to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), including the near-total dismantling of its programs, which provide humanitarian aid to over 100 countries. Specific cancellations include:
    $60 million for "Indigenous Peoples and Afro-Colombian empowerment" in Colombia.
    $74 million for "inclusive justice" in Colombia.
    $79 million for "primary literacy" in Kenya.
    $37 million for "female empowerment" programs.
    Claimed Savings: Nearly $10 billion from axing 9,921 grants, many from USAID.
    Cost to Taxpayers: The Partnership for Public Service estimated that DOGE’s actions, including USAID cuts, will cost taxpayers $135 billion in 2025 due to productivity losses, paid leave for furloughed workers, and rehiring costs. Specific USAID cuts may reduce U.S. global influence and humanitarian impact, potentially leading to indirect economic costs (e.g., reduced trade or stability in partner nations), though these are not quantified.

    National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH) Grants


    Description: DOGE canceled NEH grants deemed non-merit-based or not aligned with "pro-America" causes, redirecting future grants to merit-based initiatives.
    Claimed Savings: $163 million from canceled NEH grants.
    Cost to Taxpayers: No specific taxpayer costs are detailed for NEH grant cancellations. However, cuts to humanities programs may reduce cultural and educational outputs, with unquantified long-term societal costs.

    U.S. Census Bureau Surveys


    Description: DOGE and the Census Bureau reviewed 102 surveys beyond the core Census, deeming many obsolete or underutilized. Five surveys were specifically flagged as wasteful.
    Claimed Savings: $2.2 billion from reviewing and potentially canceling these surveys.
    Cost to Taxpayers: No direct costs are specified, but reducing data collection could impair policy-making and economic planning, with potential long-term costs not detailed in sources.

    Federal Contract Terminations


    Description: DOGE terminated thousands of federal contracts, including:
    A $67,000 Treasury Department coaching contract.
    A $20,000 DHS "Speed of Trust" leadership training program.
    A $181,000 USDA contract for a "technical climate advisor for central Africa."
    A $2.75 billion Air Force Strategic Transformation Support I (AFSTS I) contract with eight management consulting firms.
    An erroneous claim of an $8 billion ICE contract (corrected to $8 million).
    Claimed Savings: $32 billion from terminating 10,871 contracts, with specific examples like the AFSTS I contract contributing $2.75 billion.
    Cost to Taxpayers: NPR analysis found verified savings of only $2 billion, far less than claimed, with additional costs from contract terminations (e.g., settlement fees under "termination for convenience" clauses). The Partnership for Public Service estimated $135 billion in costs from firings, rehiring, and lost productivity across DOGE’s actions. Misreported savings, like the $8 billion ICE contract error, exaggerate benefits.

    Federal Lease Terminations


    Description: DOGE canceled leases on vacant or underutilized federal buildings, targeting 7,500 federal offices.
    Claimed Savings: $660 million from 748 lease terminations, with annual rent savings increasing from $100 million to $171 million.
    Cost to Taxpayers: No specific costs for lease terminations are detailed, but disruptions to federal operations and potential relocation expenses could offset savings. The Partnership for Public Service’s $135 billion estimate includes costs from such disruptions.
    Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Workforce Reductions
    Description: DOGE recommended mass layoffs at the IRS, including 3,600 auditors and nearly 40% of the Global High Wealth unit, which audits wealthy individuals and large businesses.
    Claimed Savings: Not explicitly quantified for IRS cuts alone, but part of DOGE’s broader $175 billion savings claim.
    Cost to Taxpayers: Significant revenue losses are projected due to reduced audit capacity. Yale’s Budget Lab forecasts $395 billion to $2 trillion in lost tax revenue over the next decade from halving the IRS workforce. A 2024 GAO report noted that auditing wealthy taxpayers yields $13,000 per hour, and cuts to the Large Business and International (LB&I) division, which recouped $5 billion over four years, could exacerbate losses. The Partnership for Public Service’s $135 billion cost estimate for 2025 includes IRS-related productivity losses.

    Government Credit Card and Software License Reductions


    Description: DOGE audited unused government credit cards (“P-cards”) and software licenses, deactivating ~523,000 credit cards across 32 agencies and canceling excess licenses (e.g., 3,000 Visio licenses at IRS, with only 25 used; 37,000 WinZip licenses at GSA).
    Claimed Savings: $75 million annually from credit card deactivations; unspecified savings from software licenses.
    Cost to Taxpayers: No direct costs are specified, but reduced access to software could lower productivity, contributing to the $135 billion estimated cost from DOGE’s broader actions.

    U.S. Mint Penny Production


    Description: DOGE recommended stopping the minting of pennies, citing production costs of over 3 cents per penny.
    Claimed Savings: $179 million annually (based on 2023 fiscal year costs).
    Cost to Taxpayers: No significant costs are noted, though economic impacts from phasing out pennies (e.g., on retail or pricing) are not detailed.

    Department of Education Programs


    Description: DOGE recommended a near-total dismantling of the Department of Education, including a $45 million scholarship program for students in Burma. This has left student loan borrowers in limbo as programs may be transferred to other agencies.
    Claimed Savings: Not explicitly quantified for the Department of Education as a whole, but the Burma scholarship program cancellation saved $45 million. Part of the $40 billion from 15,149 grant cancellations.
    Cost to Taxpayers: Potential administrative chaos and costs for transferring programs to other agencies are not quantified. The Partnership for Public Service’s $135 billion estimate includes costs from such disruptions.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    USAID's mission is not to help foreign countries. USAID, or the United States Agency for International Development, has the mission to "promote and demonstrate democratic values abroad, and advance a free, peaceful, and prosperous world."
    Yeah but like 90% of their programs is giving money to other countries. They have strayed far, far away from their mission statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    There has to be a bipartisan solution we can all agree on so we can stop arguing and go outside to bbq in this nice weather.
    Nah you can shut the fuck up with that. I don't remember anything being bipartisan under Biden, so democrats can eat a bag of dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    There has to be a bipartisan solution we can all agree on so we can stop arguing and go outside to bbq in this nice weather.
    No there doesn't. Our side compromising with you lunatics/retards has lead to people that think men can be women, drag shows in schools, USAID sending money around the world to fund gender studies, the corruption and kickbacks from USAID through ActBlue and so on. Along with the trillions in Covid waste, the war in Ukraine, dead soldiers in Afghanistan and a laundry list of atrocities a mile long. The Left loves to call for "Bipartisanship" and "compromise" when they want to curtail conservative action and get one more inch down the slippery slope to Totalitarianism. So no, there doesn't need to be and no we should not compromise with you for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    No there doesn't. Our side compromising with you lunatics/retards has lead to people that think men can be women, drag shows in schools, USAID sending money around the world to fund gender studies, the corruption and kickbacks from USAID through ActBlue and so on. Along with the trillions in Covid waste, the war in Ukraine, dead soldiers in Afghanistan and a laundry list of atrocities a mile long. The Left loves to call for "Bipartisanship" and "compromise" when they want to curtail conservative action and get one more inch down the slippery slope to Totalitarianism. So no, there doesn't need to be and no we should not compromise with you for anything.
    Why don't you tell us how this all plays out in the next five, 10, 20 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    Why don't you tell us how this all plays out in the next five, 10, 20 years?
    Hey bro, just relax and watch us make America great again. Enjoy the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    You keep misunderstanding the opposition to DOGE. Everyone wants to cut "waste, fraud, and abuse" to use a phrase you all like to mindlessly parrot. But the argument against DOGE is it HOW and WHAT to cut. Thats it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Help me understand your argument... which specific cuts that DOGE recommended that has you this upset. Here's a little part of the list:http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthrea...13#post2318513
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    Why don't you tell us how this all plays out in the next five, 10, 20 years?
    No matter what happens, it will still be 9947238423704x better than what would have happened with you retards running the show.

    What is your party's platform right now, other than "We hate Trump!!!!" ? Be specific.
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    Way to go guys. The US is going to burn 500 tonnes of food that was meant for starving kids in Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of just sending it. Fucking wheat biscuits used for emergency nutrition has sat to its expiration because billionaires decided USAID was waste fraud and abuse.

    Shame.

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