Things that you have taken seriously today (Political version)

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I mean, we could ask genAI... but I don't think Seran would like the answer it gave me.

[Parkbandit]

I mean, we could ask genAI... but I don't think Seran would like the answer it gave me.

Question: A really stupid person named Seran said that the charge of insurrection and seditious conspiracy are the same thing. Are they?

Answer:

I only deal with intelligent beings, so I have not ever had to deal with Seran, but the answer is no. Insurrection and seditious conspiracy are related concepts, but they have distinct legal meanings.


Insurrection:


Insurrection refers to a violent uprising or rebellion against the authority or government of a country. It involves a group of people actively opposing and resisting the established government through force, often with the goal of overthrowing it.
In the United States, the Insurrection Act provides the President with the authority to deploy the military to suppress insurrections.
Seditious Conspiracy:


Seditious conspiracy involves a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or destroy the government of the United States by force or to oppose the authority of the government by force. This offense is outlined in Title 18, Section 2384 of the United States Code.
While insurrection involves actual violent actions, seditious conspiracy can encompass conspiratorial planning and attempts to use force against the government.
In summary, insurrection typically involves the active, violent uprising against the government, while seditious conspiracy involves a conspiracy or agreement to use force to oppose the government. Both are serious offenses with legal implications, but the specific legal charges and definitions may vary depending on the jurisdiction.

[Neveragain]

Question: A really stupid person named Seran said that the charge of insurrection and seditious conspiracy are the same thing. Are they?

Answer:

Wonder what the legalities are between conspiracy to overthrow and conspiracy to restore.

The federal government has without a doubt failed to protect our borders, failed to hold in trust our tax dollars and conspired against the taxpayer to lead the country into illegal wars.

I have yet to hear a single lawmaker ask how the taxpayer reached a point at which they conspired to do either overthrow or restore it's government.

[Seran]

Saudi's have a mighty concern their disguised military members making strikes against oil shipping will be bombed.

Saudi Arabia Voices 'Great Concern' Over Yemen Air Strikes: Foreign Ministry

Saudi Arabia is following US and British air strikes on neighbouring Yemen with "great concern", a foreign ministry statement said on Friday, urging against escalation.


"The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is following with great concern the military operations taking place in the Red Sea region and the air strikes on a number of sites in the Republic of Yemen," the statement said, calling for "self-restraint and avoiding escalation".

https://www.barrons.com/news/saudi-a...istry-fa5b94fa

[Suppressed Poet]

Saudi's have a mighty concern their disguised military members making strikes against oil shipping will be bombed.

They should be concerned. That’s what happens when the Big Guy doesn’t get his tithe.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Saudi's have a mighty concern their disguised military members making strikes against oil shipping will be bombed.

Biden getting us into another war... typical sundowning Biden, always making the wrong critical decision.

[Seran]

They should be concerned. That’s what happens when the Big Guy doesn’t get his tithe.

You must be referring to Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization who received billions directly from Saudi Arabia.

[Parkbandit]

You must be referring to Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization who received billions directly from Saudi Arabia.

"BIDENS' CLEAN! TRUMPS' DIRTY!" -sErAn

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You must be referring to Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization who received billions directly from Saudi Arabia.

References? Quotes? Something concrete? Anything beyond TDS running rampant in your head?

[Seran]

References? Quotes? Something concrete? Anything beyond TDS running rampant in your head?

Anything more concrete than SEC filings by Jared Kushner’s own firm?

Before Giving Billions to Jared Kushner, Saudi Investment Fund Had Big Doubts

Six months after leaving the White House, Jared Kushner secured a $2 billion investment from a fund led by the Saudi crown prince, a close ally during the Trump administration, despite objections from the fund’s advisers about the merits of the deal.


A panel that screens investments for the main Saudi sovereign wealth fund cited concerns about the proposed deal with Mr. Kushner’s newly formed private equity firm, Affinity Partners, previously undisclosed documents show.


Those objections included: “the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management”; the possibility that the kingdom would be responsible for “the bulk of the investment and risk”; due diligence on the fledgling firm’s operations that found them “unsatisfactory in all aspects”; a proposed asset management fee that “seems excessive”; and “public relations risks” from Mr. Kushner’s prior role as a senior adviser to his father-in-law, former President Donald J. Trump, according to minutes of the panel’s meeting last June 30.


But days later the full board of the $620 billion Public Investment Fund — led by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler and a beneficiary of Mr. Kushner’s support when he worked as a White House adviser — overruled the panel.

Ethics experts say that such a deal creates the appearance of potential payback for Mr. Kushner’s actions in the White House — or of a bid for future favor if Mr. Trump seeks and wins another presidential term in 2024.


Mr. Kushner played a leading role inside the Trump administration defending Crown Prince Mohammed after U.S. intelligence agencies concluded that he had approved the 2018 killing and dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi, a Saudi columnist for The Washington Post and resident of Virginia who had criticized the kingdom’s rulers.

The Saudi fund agreed to invest twice as much and on more generous terms with Mr. Kushner than it did at about the same time with former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin — who was also starting a new fund — even though Mr. Mnuchin had a record as a successful investor before entering government, the documents show. The amount of the investment in his firm, Liberty Strategic Capital — $1 billion — has not been previously disclosed.

In Washington, Mr. Kushner had also helped broker $110 billion in weapons sales to Saudi Arabia over 10 years. He helped protect those and other weapons deals from congressional outrage over the murder of Mr. Khashoggi and the humanitarian catastrophe created by the Saudi-led military intervention in Yemen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/u...ment-fund.html

https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/...PDF/315482.pdf