Is Trump Eligible to Run Again?

[Seran]

Prove it.

The two courts in Colorado already have. Here's the ruling from the Colorado Supreme Court.

The district court did not err in concluding that President Trump “engaged in” that insurrection through his personal actions.

• President Trump’s speech inciting the crowd that breached the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, was not protected by the First Amendment. The sum of these parts is this: President Trump is disqualified from holding the office of President under Section Three; because he is disqualified, it would be a wrongful act under the Election Code for the Secretary to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot.

We do not reach these conclusions lightly. We are mindful of the magnitude and weight of the questions now before us. We are likewise mindful of our solemn duty to apply the law, without fear or favor, and without being swayed by public reaction to the decisions that the law mandates we reach.

We are also cognizant that we travel in uncharted territory, and that this case presents several issues of first impression. But for our resolution of the Electors’ challenge under the Election Code, the Secretary would be required to include President Trump’s name on the 2024 presidential primary ballot.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

The two courts in Colorado already have. Here's the ruling from the Colorado Supreme Court.

No, you said he is not eligible for office by violating the Constitution. Prove it. Show me the trial where he was found guilty of violating the constitution.

[Parkbandit]

Y'all love the Constitution until you find out what's in it. Lol

Y'all love the Constitution until you find out what's in it. Like "Innocent until proven guilty" being a cornerstone of our country.

"BUT TRUMP SAID MEAN WORDS AND HE HURT MY FEE FEES!!" just isn't enough.

[Solkern]

No, you said he is not eligible for office by violating the Constitution. Prove it. Show me the trial where he was found guilty of violating the constitution.

Show me in the 14th amendment, section 3, that he needs to be tried, convicted or found guilty or anything along those lines, to be ineligible under the 14th amendment.
Colorado Supreme Court ruled that he was “engaging in an insurrection” by law, that makes him not eligible.
Until SCOTUS clarifies this amendment, he in fact has violated the constitution, as it is written.

[Parkbandit]

Show me in the 14th amendment, section 3, that he needs to be tried, convicted or found guilty or anything along those lines, to be ineligible under the 14th amendment.

Until SCOTUS clarifies this amendment, he in fact has violated the constitution, as it is written.

"Although the Constitution of the United States does not cite it explicitly, presumption of innocence is widely held to follow from the Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendments. The case of Coffin v. United States (1895) established the presumption of innocence of persons accused of crimes."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presum...%20of%20crimes.

[Parkbandit]

Show me in the 14th amendment, section 3, that he needs to be tried, convicted or found guilty or anything along those lines, to be ineligible under the 14th amendment.
Colorado Supreme Court says he was “engaging in an insurrection” by law, that makes him not eligible.
Until SCOTUS clarifies this amendment, he in fact has violated the constitution, as it is written.

Literally in the 14th Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Show me in the 14th amendment, section 3, that he needs to be tried, convicted or found guilty or anything along those lines, to be ineligible under the 14th amendment.
Colorado Supreme Court says he was “engaging in an insurrection” by law, that makes him not eligible.
Until SCOTUS clarifies this amendment, he in fact has violated the constitution, as it is written.

PB beat me to it, but the Due Process clause is kind of important.

[Solkern]

PB beat me to it, but the Due Process clause is kind of important.

Due process in what? Interpretation of amendment doesn’t require due process.

any constitutional challenges (rather than a statutory challenge based on a “wrongful act”) must be brought under the normal jurisdictional rules that apply to constitutional cases. And in any event, election challenges must move quickly given their nature, the procedures in this case were thorough, and Trump did not identify any particular ways in which he was supposedly denied a fair hearing. (Over at Reason, Ilya Somin argues that depriving someone of public office doesn’t deprive them of life, liberty, or property, and therefore the Due Process Clause doesn’t even apply.)

https://www.cato.org/blog/agree-it-o...iumph-judicial

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Due process in what? Interpretation of amendment doesn’t require due process.

any constitutional challenges (rather than a statutory challenge based on a “wrongful act”) must be brought under the normal jurisdictional rules that apply to constitutional cases. And in any event, election challenges must move quickly given their nature, the procedures in this case were thorough, and Trump did not identify any particular ways in which he was supposedly denied a fair hearing. (Over at Reason, Ilya Somin argues that depriving someone of public office doesn’t deprive them of life, liberty, or property, and therefore the Due Process Clause doesn’t even apply.)

https://www.cato.org/blog/agree-it-o...iumph-judicial

oh Ok. I'm not a constitutional expert so I'll take your word that Trump doesn't deserve due process under the constitution.

[Anebriated]

The Colorado Supreme Court was so confident in their ruling that they stayed their own decision pending appeal...