Israel at War?

[Suppressed Poet]

Russia, China, North Korea and many other countries talk shit like that all the time. I’d prefer to wait for more than words. Because their words are just to shore up their domestic base, and not an actual threat imo.

You may be right, but those words were directed at the American people. The difference is it was said in New York where we had 9/11. He knew exactly what he was saying and where he was. We shouldn’t tolerate Iranian foreign ministers coming here and saying that. We will not be intimidated.

[Suppressed Poet]

You don't think missile strikes that wipe out terrorists, their camps, and armaments is a deterrent to their activities? Life isn't a video game, human beings don't have respawn timers and re-armament takes time. So everytime we've wiped out their camps and people, significant blows were struck against their ability to do harm. I respect that you're willing to nod approvingly at his action, I just wish that the side you represent spent less time trying to find reasons for being upset and more time being proud of the safety, security, and freedom that is too often taken for granted.

Everything is politicized these days. You understand that.

To answer your question, I think it’s a start but not enough. We’ll see if our bases get attacked again.

I agree we are fortunate that we don’t have to deal with constant missile barrages and attacks from foreign nations in our country. We have a lot to be thankful for being American, and that is easy to take for granted. It’s also very much an American thing to be able criticize our leaders.

[Solkern]

Everything is politicized these days. You understand that.

To answer your question, I think it’s a start but not enough. We’ll see if our bases get attacked again.

I agree we are fortunate that we don’t have to deal with constant missile barrages and attacks from foreign nations in our country. We have a lot to be thankful for being American, and that is easy to take for granted. It’s also very much an American thing to be able criticize our leaders.

I think everything is politicized, because that’s what we make it ourselves. Look at the shooting in Maine, it started to go down the left and right path on these forums. Glad that we all got our heads out of our asses and didn’t let it drop to that level.

We are too quick to label something left or right.

[Methais]

Is a proxy war, the same as a normal war? Can you tell me the differences? You sit there and try to claim that they’re the same thing when they’re not.

I'm not saying they're the exact same thing. I'm saying it's fucking stupid that we're pissing away tens of billions (probably soon to be hundreds of billions) of taxpayer money on proxy wars like Ukraine, when that money should be being spent here, instead of dumb shit like "Here's $700 Maui, wish we could do more but Ukraine wants more money for the war. Best of luck!" and then being like "We can afford two wars because we're the United States of America!" and then being like "Hey guys, we're not at war! Isn't that fantastic???" when the only difference is that we're not physically pulling the trigger, and are having other people go out and die pointlessly doing that instead while we bankroll it.

Go ask the people of Maui, for example, with their whopping one time $700 payment, if they give a flying fuck about the difference between "real war" and a "proxy war."'


Israel at least makes sense to support after the Hamas attack, even moreso now that Iran is trying to fuck with us directly while they laugh at what a cuck Biden is. Except for the part where we're funding Hamas now too, because only a Seran level retard thinks Hamas won't end up with most if not all of that $100m that Biden is sending over to "Gaza."

But Ukraine has been complete bullshit from the start, and that's where the most money has been going to. So far.

Between Maui and Ukraine, which do you think is more important? Just curious.

What's your opinion on Biden saying "We can afford two wars because we're the USA!" while he continues to neglect just about everything here at home so we can spend all that money in shitholes like Ukraine?

And I do love how you keep bringing up my Russian friends, you only do that because you know you’re being a fucking idiot right now and every other time you bring it up, and you’re trying to pivot the subject to something else.

I bring it up because it was one of the most spineless and pussified things I've ever heard someone unironically say, and at the same time it's hilarious for those same reasons.

Here's a visual:


You might have had a point with "pivoting" if that was the main content of my post instead of one sentence near the end, but it wasn't, and you're mad about it. Hopefully you secretly just feel like a dumbass over your "I hope my friends approve of me" Biden vote, and that's why you get so butthurt when it's brought up, but I'm not holding my breath.

You can literally call every single conflict going on in the world proxy war for us, and you could do the same for Trump. Since we support a side and a lot of times send aid as well. Trump maintained proxy war, in Afghanistan and Syria against Russia. Blah blah! I guess he wasn’t so “peaceful”

Trump: No new wars

You: Gets super mad that this is true, so you have to pivot to things like "Yeah well...well...well he continued the stuff we were already involved in before he was in office!"

Also you: "I don't understand the difference between 'Most peaceful president since Ford.' and 'A peaceful president.'"


Fun fact: According to your definition of war, Vietnam wasn't a war because Congress never officially declared war.

[Methais]

Russia, China, North Korea and many other countries talk shit like that all the time. I’d prefer to wait for more than words. Because their words are just to shore up their domestic base, and not an actual threat imo.

Do they show up in person and talk that kind of shit to our face? I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume no.

It's primarily because the entire world except for Seran knows how weak and pathetic Biden is. I doubt dude would have talked any of that shit even if we had a different president, even another democrat. Biden is literally a weak joke. To everyone. Except Seran.

[Parkbandit]

I think everything is politicized, because that’s what we make it ourselves. Look at the shooting in Maine, it started to go down the left and right path on these forums. Glad that we all got our heads out of our asses and didn’t let it drop to that level.

We are too quick to label something left or right.

Are multiple people using your login or something? Or do you have a memory of a goldfish.

Was this you?

Except, according to his social media, this guy was a republican.

Stop being such a fucking mealy-mouthed little retard.

[Parkbandit]

Fun fact: According to your definition of war, Vietnam wasn't a war because Congress never officially declared war.

Using Soykern's new definition of war, neither was:

Korean Konflict
Vietnam Vendetta
Gulf Grapple
Afghanistan Armed conflict
Iraq Ill will

Good to know these were not wars. US has obviously been the most peaceful country in the world since WWII

[Shaps]

Solkern and Seran both proved my points for me...

Paraphrasing:

"No troops on the ground!!!" - I've already linked all the troops in those locations... We have US Soldiers involved in both conflicts.

"We're not at war!!!" - I've already linked the attacks against US facilities and the attempt by the administration to hide that fact.

Just today... https://www.yahoo.com/gma/us-troops-...162100236.html

"US shoots down drone in Iraq after troops targeted again"

I can't stand jackasses like these two, claiming they know anything about what war actually is... I sadly do, and what our Government and this current Administration is doing is pathetic.

[Arqueto]

Is a proxy war not a war? Are we not spending billions of taxpayer dollars on proxy wars that we weren't involved in until Biden came around? If not, then what are we spending all those billions on if it's not war? You know, like the one that's literally called "The war in Ukraine," for example? If that's not a war, then I'm gonna need you to spell out the definition of "war" for me.

Maybe we can dumb it down a little more to hopefully squeeze an honest and non-milquetoast answer out of you...are we involved in wars that we weren't involved in before Biden?

Perhaps we should just pull all of those proxy war funds until Congress officially "declares war." What do you think? Should we? Why or why not?

What do your Russian pals think about things like how we're funding Ukraine? Are they still cheering you on for your emotionally charged "no more mean tweets" vote for Biden? Asking for Seran's mom.

Stop being intentionally retarded just so you can miss the point on purpose and play semantics.

Mealy-mouthed is the most accurate characterization ever.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

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